Jane Fonda and Sharon Stone throw shade at Barbra Streisand

Sorry but all those roles were offered to Lucy first. Gary talked her out of them.

[quote]Barbra has never been rude to her.

For years Streisand would "joke" that she was responsible for Jane's career simply because she turned down Klute and They Shoot Horses, Don't They?

It's a tacky thing to even say, and most actors and actresses have the class not to mention what they were offered first. But Streisand always thinks she's being cute when she's just being an asshole.

tongue in cheek

It's interesting since most of the roles that Faye Dunaway eventually cast as lead were first offered to Jane Fonda.

I get the impression that many of Streisand's peers don't care for her in the film and music business. Dionne Warwick threw some serious shade at Streisand years ago for dabbling in disco.

They're all bitches!

Hilarious - love Jane!

R2, I cannot imagine an actress as limited as Streisand playing characters as complex as world-weary, cynical and despondent Gloria Beatty, or unstable, emotionally damaged and vulnerable as Bree Daniels. Streisand isn't bad by any stretch of the imagination, but is extremely mannered and with the exception of Hello, Dolly! and Funny Girl/Lady, she's basically spent her entire acting career playing variations of herself. Moreover, she ALWAYS must include references to how hot and desirable she is, forgetting that it's not about her, but playing a character. She was utterly unbelievable as a crazy high end call girl in Nuts, and she would have ruined the films that went to Jane Fonda.

Jane isn't a great actress either, but she is light years ahead of Streisand who, in spite of what she'd like to believe, is a singer who acts.

I hate her but Jane is a great actress.

Streisand is enormously talented.

Barbra could have played Scarlett O'Hara in GWTW.

There aren’t enough posts about Sharon Stone’s contribution to this discussion. I’m feel like she’s being erased.

I love Jane in Julia but I could see Barbra in the role of Lillian Hellman. That’s the only one from that list.

Jane is so affecting and tragic in the unforgettable “They Shoot Horses, Don’t They?” that I really can’t even begin to picture someone else playing Gloria.

“I’ve got my eye on you.” “Oh yeah? Which one?”

[quote]I love Jane in Julia but I could see Barbra in the role of Lillian Hellman.

It's obvious why Barbra wouldn't want Hellman comparisons, r12.

Who would pay good money to watch Bsrbra Streisand and Jane Fonda try to out cunt one another?

I know I would

At least Babs wasn't making exercise videos

Streisand is a marvel in terms of her talent but she has just about the worst taste of almost anyone in show business -- ever.

Barbra does movie star acting. It's *her*persona in every role. She was incapable of playing Gloria because of her vanity (maybe she knew that). Have you *ever* seen her be willing to look like this?

OP, she's having some fun on stage. Lighten up you crabby old bitch.

[quote]Barbra does movie star acting. It's *her*persona in every role.

Jane Fonda also plays "Jane Fonda" in every role she's done. The only movie where she's even tried to play a different character is in 9 to 5, but even that was mostly the same Jane. She can't morph into different people in the way that Meryl Streep can.

Nothing wrong with movie star acting. It's worked for all of Hollywood's biggest legends. Just ask Bette Davis and Joan Crawford.

I love Barbra's quip about Shoot Horses. She said she was exhausted just reading the script. She was editing a Star is Born which is why she turned down Julia. But she would have loved to work with Fred Zinnemann. Sydney Pollack tried to get her to play Lillian Hellman in the 1980s in a film with Redford that was never made.

Bette transcended "movie star acting" (unlike Joan), r19. She wasn't afraid to "go there" if the role required it. Jane may have a narrow lane, but she delves deeper than Barbra. She doesn't have Barbra's vanity. No way would Barbra have snot-cried in Klute. Redford wouldn't permit himself to look anything but hunky.

Jane, Stonie, Dionne,

how are your spouses doing?

Love Barbra

aka Mrs James "Sadie" Brolin for 26 years

I know how Jane feels. For years I had to deal with a certain actressy actress claiming she was up for several of my roles -- King Kong, Postman Always Rings Twice, Sweet Dreams...

How would Sharon Stone know what Streisand has turned down or not… either way I can’t see Streisand in They Shoot Horses, Don’t They. Maybe Klute.

Barbra would've been a disaster in Klute. She's too self-conscious of her celebrity as an entertainer to ever go that raw and gritty like Jane Fonda in the role.

[quote] Bette transcended "movie star acting" (unlike Joan)

Joan only transcended "movie star acting" once, and that was in "Rain." Sadly, that movie was a huge commercial flop, and she never again attempted to go beyond her movie star persona.

People would've rooted for the killer in Klute if Streisand had played the lead role in that film.

Fonda was too beautiful to play Lillian Hellman, but at least she didn't try to turn the character into a ravishing glamor queen typing her plays with beautifully manicured fingernails, as Barbra probably would have.

[quote]R4 It's interesting since most of the roles that Faye Dunaway eventually cast as lead were first offered to Jane Fonda.

Candice Bergen wrote that she got the dregs of what Jane and Faye (and Julie Christie) rejected.

She and Lionel Barrymore walk away with Grand Hotel, r26.

True, R30, but she was in full-on "Joan Crawford ™" glamorous movie star mode in Grand Hotel.

These cunts...egos so massive no wonder they keep bumping into each other.

R29 the dregs? She got quite a few choice parts. the Lion in Winter, the Sand Pebbles and The Group.

Candice was in The Wind and the Lion, R33, not The Lion in Winter.

No she wasn't, r31. Flaemmchen isn't glamorous.

I can hear Murphy Brown saying "What family doesn't have its ups and downs?", r34.

Barbra made similar unpleasant remarks about Mary Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio. I forget what movie it was about, but she was bitchy about the role going to someone else. It was a filmed interview. She made a point of mispronouncing the actress's last name while she made the comments, too, which seemed very petty. Barbra is very talented but an egomaniacal monster. The only female entertainer who might come close to her malignant narcissism is Madonna.

R37 here. Apologies for the double "Mary."

MARY!

[quote] Candice was in The Wind and the Lion, [R33], not The Lion in Winter.

Good point! Only a good DLer would know this.

Barbra has a horrible reputation. Rutanya Alda wrote about how mean she is to everyone around her and claims that it’s simply because she’s a perfectionist. It’s not.

@40 Rutanya Alda also said DL fave Faye was a nightmare. So who do we believe, she’s the common denominator

Bitch fight!

Hollywood ain’t big enough for all that cunt

r40 What did Rutanya Alda say about Streisand? (yes, I googled first)

R15 must’ve missed The Main Event.

Streisand is a terrific actress. But as is clear from her memoir, she often lacked the confidence to take the big swings like working with Bergman or performing Weill. She seemed to express regret about this and imagine the expanded scope of her career if she had.

She is excellent in Up The Sandbox, completely divorced from her screen persona, playing a young housewife experiencing her own, innate feminist ideals. It’s an interesting watch after listening to the memoir. She’s terrific in the scene with her mother in the film and is beautiful as a young mother, herself. Streisand has never lacked for depth.

I could totally see her doing They Shoot Horses - she would completely identify as Gloria - and she worked successfully with Sydney Pollack on one of her best films, and was later cast with Michael Sarrazin in For Pete’s Sake. I love Jane’s performance but she does play it as someone who has fallen from a greater height - that’s Jane Fonda. Streisand would’ve been more hungry and ultimately completely exhausted, having never experienced anything other than the grind. She would’ve been terrific.

As for Klute, I don’t doubt that Streisand would’ve acquitted herself well, if she had the confidence to take it on. She did play Doris in The Owl and the Pussycat - a very abrasive, unwatchable film now - so wasn’t adverse to playing a sex worker. But Fonda is the ultimate Bree Daniels where again, there is a sense that she could be doing more with herself and is in serious need of therapy; she’s using prostitution as a means of acting out and playing roles that, in professional circumstances, she isn’t able to book as a legitimate actress. The complexity of the role is innate to Fonda herself and easily suggested. With any other actress, we’d see all the heavy lifting.

Streisand was a HUGE movie star in the late ‘60s and most of the ‘70s - of course she was offered everything. If you wanted your film to get made or wanted a bankable star, of course it would be offered to Streisand. It doesn’t mean she was right for it.

Stone was making up for lost time in the ‘90s and made a ton of terrible films she shouldn’t have gone anywhere near - at least Streisand and Fonda had a sense of the value of their screen personas. Stone’s big hit boxed her into a corner and left her without any follow up - filmgoers didn’t know her or even want to know her in another guise. It wasn’t until Scorsese cast her so expertly in Casino that she did anything with the force of her breakout hit and then she just disappeared. Stone would’ve done better if she’d demonstrated some patience and said no more often but understandably, she knew she had only a narrow window of time.

[QUOTE] Streisand would’ve been more hungry and ultimately completely exhausted, having never experienced anything other than the grind. She would’ve been terrific.

But that’s not the character. Gloria is performing a slow suicide throughout the length of the film that is evident from the first frame of her. Your comment doesn’t make a lot of sense.

R46 comes off as AI.

OP- Jane Fonda was trying to be cool in front of those two QUEENY FAGS.

OP- Jane Fonda was trying to be cool in front of those two QUEENY FAGS

i enjoy jane fonda as a person and actress. shes got an interesting vibe in her interactions with orhers. never was convined her face was truly beautiful. imo she got very pretty after 60. she is riddled by hangups but she still gets on with her life and career and doesnt cry over spilt milk. little edie would describe jane as staunch!

[quote]It's a tacky thing to even say, and most actors and actresses have the class not to mention what they were offered first.

Absolutely bullshit. One of the first questions asked of legendary actors and actresses in an interview spanning their careers are "What are some of the roles you turned down ?" usually followed by "Why did you turn that one down ? It became a hit movie..."

James Lipton and his audience members were known for asking these questions to A-list actors and actresses on 'Inside the Actor's Studio' and the audience loved it. I believe he was one of the one's who pushed Streisand on the Fonda roles back in 2003 when she sat with him - and IIRC that was the first time she quipped 'I gave Jane Fonda her career'. Everyone remembered that and keep repeating that - fun soundbite.

I could see Barbra playing Jane’s role in “The Dollmaker” or “The Morning After.”

OP - Is "shade" a euphemism?

r52 True - even back in the day, Johnny Carson would always ask 'classic' actors and actresses questions like "What's the one role you turned down that you regret?" and "What's one role you wanted but did not get?" etc.

Streisand has been saying this Jane Fonda stuff for DECADES. I suppose she thinks it’s funny. After 40 years, if I were Jane, I’d be pissed too. Barbra was called a good actress in the beginning of her film career, but aside from only two roles (star roles), she’s never shown it. Time to shut the fuck up, Babs.

Sharon Stone knows that “Miss S has a memory issue” is Hollywoodease for “Streisand is a CUNT!”

And for Stone to say that, really says something about the cuntiness of Barbra

How many Oscars does Barbra have again? Neither of my TWO resulted from a tie…

I'm no Streisand fan but to me, Stone sounds bitter.

Jane Fonda: Nepo baby.

Also, how many concert halls has Ms. Fonda sold out? How many LPs/CDs/downloads does Ms. Fonda have to her credit?

[QUOTE] Also, how many concert halls has Ms. Fonda sold out? How many LPs/CDs/downloads does Ms. Fonda have to her credit?

Why would she have ANY? She’s not a singer. This post is quite stupid.

R60 doesn’t understand the thread.

I've never much minded the Nepo Baby thing. It's a factory where your start depends on luck. They're just very lucky. But they don't sell movies for the love of art. If you can't make money, it doesn't matter long who your parents are.

[quote] and IIRC that was the first time she quipped 'I gave Jane Fonda her career'. Everyone remembered that and keep repeating that - fun soundbite.

It's not a fun soundbite, it's cunty. And I remember that quote being in the Consadine biography of Streisand back in the mid 80's. She's trotted it out several times before. It's basically saying that Fonda brought nothing to the table in terms of her own success.

For a woman who plays the sexism card, Streisand has always been awful towards her female peers. She's your typical old school feminist who advocates for women from afar, as long as they're not competition, but will sing the praises of any man that comes within ten feet of her. Madeline Kahn, Estelle Parsons, Lois Chiles all had less than flattering things to say about working with her. Even among the women she's sang with (which have been a small handful compared to the men) she's been sparse. Kim Carnes talked about how Streisand had her eye color changed on the single cover without telling her because "only Barbra could have that color shade". Compare it to the men, many of whom have reprised their duets with her live over the years.

I wonder how deranged lightweight Sharon Stone could possibly think she’s on the same level as Fonda and Streisand.

[quote]i enjoy jane fonda as a person and actress. shes got an interesting vibe in her interactions with orhers. never was convined her face was truly beautiful.

I agree, except I think Jane is one of the most beautiful actresses, and she got Redford way before Streisand!

[quote]It's not a fun soundbite, it's cunty.

Yes, to those without a sense of humor.

[quote]Even among the women she's sang with (which have been a small handful compared to the men) she's been sparse. Kim Carnes talked about how Streisand had her eye color changed on the single cover without telling her because "only Barbra could have that color shade". Compare it to the men, many of whom have reprised their duets with her live over the years.

Donna Summer, Celine Dion, and Melissa McCarthy had nothing but praise for her and the great time they had working with her. Summer, especially, had nothing but great memories of her (saying she was a 'funny girl' and all they did was laugh throughout their recording sessions) and remained close friends with her until Summer's death. Celine Dion also has the greatest memories of her times with Barbra. Same with McCarthy.

R46- IS Barbara Streisand

Oh my gawd! What are ya tellin me they shoot horses or something!?

R67, those lesser actresses, comics, singers knew rocking the boat was not in their best interest.

Streisand admits to being a megalomaniac micro manager in her autobiography. If you can’t accept that, see a therapist.

[quote]i enjoy jane fonda as a person and actress. shes got an interesting vibe in her interactions with orhers. never was convined her face was truly beautiful.

Her beauty is on the “normal woman” side but she is definitely beautiful.

Fonda was insecure about her looks, herself, and was shocked when she found success as a model. One thing that drove her into a lifetime of bulimia is she felt she had rather full cheeks.

[quote]those lesser actresses, comics, singers knew rocking the boat was not in their best interest.

Donna Summer and Celine Dion are considered 'lesser singers' who didn't want to 'rock the boat' ?

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! You're smoking too much crack today.

r60 This isn't about music, sweetie.

[quote]Donna Summer, Celine Dion, and Melissa McCarthy had nothing but praise for her and the great time they had working with her.

She didn't even publicly acknowledge Donna Summers talent or perform the duet until the poor woman passed. Contrast that with Neil Diamond and Barry Gibb.

Melissa McCarthy is not a singer. AKA no competition.

She was cunty towards Celine when she Celine stepped in at the very last minute to perform that Mirror song at the oscars, saying she was in the toilet during Celine's performance. The following year, she then left Celine hanging the last minute at the Grammys with that shitty duet they were nominated for. Bailing on her because of "Stage Fright" and all.

[quote]She didn't even publicly acknowledge Donna Summers talent or perform the duet until the poor woman passed.

Of all the female singers available in 1984, she personally called and asked Summer to perform 'Papa, Can You Hear Me ?' at the 1984 Oscars, televised all over the world. If that's not a public acknowledgement of Summer's talent, I don't know what is. Then she devoted a whole chapter to Summer and their duet together in her memoir and praised her talent. (As for her not performing the duet live in concert with Summer - who knows whether she asked her to tour with her for the song, and Summer was unable to join the tours?)

Stone just added her blurb to the mix in hope of getting a mention if this gets in the news.

Poor thing has nothing to offer for years except "revealing","commenting","wearing", "naming", "explaining" and collecting "awards" at third rate film festivals.

They're all old now, time to kiss and make up.

R75, Streisand didn’t tour until the ‘90s. Her “One Voice” performance on her estate in 1987, I think, was her first concert since Central Park. So she wouldn’t have toured with Summer.

In regard to Fonda's looks, I saw her in person in the mid-80s, and although she was glamorous, I wouldn't call her beautiful.

Natalie Wood was beautiful. Candice Bergen has always been astonishingly beautiful. Fonda? Nuh-uh.

R79- By 1985 Jane Fonda was 47 years old. Why would you still expect her to be beautiful at that point. In 1965 yes.

[quote] Barbra could have played Scarlett O'Hara in GWTW.

She was probably offered the role as well.

R78, Streisand performed several times not mentioned because her publicity likes that “hasn’t performed live in 27 years” bullshit. For instance, most don’t know/like to forget she appeared at the Riviera in Las Vegas for a run including New Year’s Eve, 1970-71.

I was aghast that in Bab’s second Christmas Album, she recorded “Snowbound” appropriating Sarah Vaughan’s arrangement WITHOUT MENTIONING it was Sarah’s. That competition thing again, even with a dead woman. Sick.

Babs never really used her talents to their ful potential.

Yes she has a few great songs and several excellent screen performances but she never made the most of her many opportunities.

Why was she wasting time editing a movie instead of filming Julia? Her editing wasn't up to much judging by the result.

She never returned to Broadway. Her total number of concerts when touring is 101.

She has every right to do what she wants but she could have had a much more stellar career.

[quote] Streisand didn’t tour until the ‘90s. Her “One Voice” performance on her estate in 1987, I think, was her first concert since Central Park. So she wouldn’t have toured with Summer.

'One Voice' was performed on September 6, 1986. It was a Democratic political fundraiser for Democrats to take back the Senate that year (they did). Neil Diamond and Kris Kristofferson, her other two male duet partners at the time, didn't perform with her on that night either. Maybe Diamond, Kristofferson and Summer didn't wish to be involved in a political fundraiser ? As a matter of fact, I don't recall Summer involved in any political fundraising events in her nearly 40 year career.

Next...

Sharon Stone making outrageous claims and seeming to have no self-awareness is part of her charm.

Leave Barbra alone!!!

Sharon Stone has always been a delusional and bitter bitch:

In a June 2021 interview, Sharon Stone commented on Meryl Streep's career and status in Hollywood, saying that she believes there are other actresses who are just as talented as Streep:

Stone said, "I think Meryl is an amazingly wonderful woman and actress. But in my opinion, quite frankly, there are other actresses equally as talented as Meryl Streep".

Stone said that she thinks she is a better screen villain than Streep. She also said, "I'm a much better villain than Meryl, and I'm sure she'd say so".

Does Meryl Streep know who Sharon Stone is?

What were Sharon Stone's stellar villainess performances?

[quote] Sharon Stone commented on the video on Instagram: “Let’s just say Ms S sometimes has a thin grasp on the truth 😮😮😮😮😮”

Tell us about it.

The attitude of others in the business to Barbra is similar to the attitude to Madonna--she is a legend, but not a gracious one. She's an egomaniac.

[quote] Donna Summer, Celine Dion, and Melissa McCarthy had nothing but praise for her and the great time they had working with

The latter two worked with her long after she was popular so it makes sense Barbra was nice to them. Donna seems like one of those people who gets along with any other entertainer, no chip on her shoulder.

[quote] Stone said, "I think Meryl is an amazingly wonderful woman and actress. But in my opinion, quite frankly, there are other actresses equally as talented as Meryl Streep".

She's not wrong.

[quote] What were Sharon Stone's stellar villainess performances?

Come on now--Catherine Tramell from Basic Instinct is considered one of the most iconic roles in history. Her interrogation scene was parodied endlessly. Ginger from Casino was another great performance.

Ginger in Casino is a loud screaming mess. Scorsese should have worked with her more perhaps, but Stone’s performance has no dimension. And don’t give me any “she was nominated for an Oscar” crap. Sharon Stone is a one hit wonder.

Yes I am no fan of Casino, either R93. I'm the one who asked for her lauded performances as villainesses. Basic Instinct and.... what. I'm waiting. Sharon Stone is what the French call, "marrant". And glamorous. But she's no great actress. A loon.

[quote]Donna seems like one of those people who gets along with any other entertainer, no chip on her shoulder.

Well, in 1981-82 she returned to the recording studio with producer Quincy Jones, per David Geffen's orders (he shelved the album she delivered, and wanted QJ to produce an album with a more 'urban sound'). Summer said in interviews years later - in a very polite and professional way - that working with Quincy Jones was not a pleasant experience for her from the start, and she could not wait until the six month recording sessions were over. As she said, it was not an experience she ever would repeat again (which is probably why she stayed away from "We Are The World" a few years after). When pressed, she simply said that the two of them had very different ideas on what would make a successful album, so their differences prevented them from a closer collaboration in and out of the studio (in other words, neither went above nor beyond to make this album a standout, as she did with Giorgio Moroder). She said the same thing (in more details) 20 years after, in her memoir. She and Jones respected each other professionally, but neither one wanted to work together again.

I have a feeling that if she had a difficult recording session with Barbra, she would have answered interview questions similar to questions about working with QJ. She would probably have said the two of them had 'different ideas' on recording the duet, and it would be an experience she wouldn't want to repeat. Instead she answered just the opposite - she loved working with Barbra for those two weeks, they got along great, and she wanted to work with her again if the right song came their way. She said the same thing in her memoir, and the two 'divas' remained friends until Summer's death.

R94, Scorsese should've gone with me instead. I would've spun gold with that role.

Streisand could only do comedy and laughable in drama.

Sharon should have stuck to something formulaic on TV. She was good in her arc on SVU. She's better suited for the small screen. There's nothing *big* about her.

Sharon was excellent on “The Practice.”

See, r100?

Yes, that was me confirming what you had just posted, R101.

Sharon is great in comedic roles.

[quote] Natalie Wood was beautiful. Candice Bergen has always been astonishingly beautiful. Fonda? Nuh-uh.

Natalie Wood was very pretty and attractive, plus charismatic. But more like the lady-next-door. I posted a Getty image of her here.

[quote] Candice Bergen has always been astonishingly beautiful.

Very attractive, but IMO, not astonishingly beautiful. She had a clean-cut, all-American (from that era) look.

[quote]r105 = not astonishingly beautiful

I disagree...strongly.

[quote]Natalie Wood was beautiful. Candice Bergen has always been astonishingly beautiful. Fonda? Nuh-uh.

Bergen and Fonda are Hollywood royalty. They both have that wholesome All-American appeal, white bread with good bones, but Fonda has her beat when it comes to talent and sex appeal. Bergen the icy nordic blonde, Natalie the girl you'd fuck if Fonda wasn't available, and Sharon Stone, a drug-fueled lost weekend in Crazytown.

[quote] Natalie the girl you'd fuck if Fonda wasn't available

IMO, Natalie was the sexier than Jane Fonda and Candice Bergen.

Sharon Stone? I never thought of her as sexy.

Streisand made these remarks in the context of irony adding in each case the that would have made her take the offers more seriously were not yet on board. She and Fonda are friends by the way. Neither one has made remarks as serious shade.

Natalie Wood was never sexy. She was cute.

IMO, Elizabeth Montgomery was similar to Natalie Wood.

[quote] She and Fonda are friends by the way.

I can't remember what interview it was, or maybe it was when Streisand received an AFI or something, but years ago I saw Fonda say that.

Fonda said she was friends with Streisand. ^

Fonda said something about her Streisand at a Hollywood party hiding out in a bathroom together and singing or something like that.

I was singing the high notes.

Does Meryl Streep know who Sharon Stone is?

Yes they made a movie together. In their scene Sharon's charisma blows Meryl off the screen.

Jane was beautiful and sexy when she was done up in her '60s sex kitten phase, in Barbarella, Joy House, Cat Ballou, etc. Early 70s Jane with minimal makeup and shag haircut not so much.

R115 = Sharon Stone

R116- She was probably rejecting all of that pretty sex kitten glamour stuff of the late 1960’s. I agree that she succeeded. She was attractive ca. 1971 but not longer beautiful.

Gay men deciding which woman is sexiest. Jeez.

Um, R119, gay men have been making women look sexy since the dawn of time. Esp in the movies.

Fuck off, frau^^^

R121 was meant for R119.

I'm reading Barbra Streisand: The Woman, the Myth, the Music by Shaun Considine. It's good and I'm sorry, but Babs is a bitch.

R120, yes! R119, consider the costume designer Adrian, who gave Joan Crawford her signature glam look of the 30s. Adrian really created Joan Crawford.

Side comment here-Murphy Brown was Brilliantly funny-still laughing.’’Corky Sherwood Forrest’’

Julie Christie would have been better in Klute than Fonda.

Barbra would have been great, so long as she brought the perm, doing Jane's role in 9 to 5. She would have brought some NYC authenticity to the role.

What's up, Klute?

I wonder if certain A list stars hate on other stars because as they age they realize 100 years from now I will NOT be known but the person I am talking shit about most definitely will.

I didn't know this thread was about clothes, R124.

[quote]Barbra would have been great, so long as she brought the perm, doing Jane's role in 9 to 5. She would have brought some NYC authenticity to the role.

Streisand was loooong past New York attitude by 1980. Certainly there was little "authenticity" she'd be able to muster up, once a permanent resident of Calif, she was running away from it.

Additionally, has Barbra Streisand ever submitted to a director? She was always in there trying to direct the director by her own admission in her memoir. 9 to 5 was Jane Fonda's story and I doubt she'd allow Streisandantics on that set.

Yeah, Jane was unbelievable as a mousy secretary (with her perfect figure) in 9 to 5.

Jane was the least interesting actress in 9 to 5. Dolly, Lilly, Elizabeth Wilson, Marian Mercer and Peggy Pope were all better. Jane just can't do comedy well.

[quote]She was probably rejecting all of that pretty sex kitten glamour stuff of the late 1960’s

Yes, but the styles in the 1970s, from clothes to hairstyles, were way way different from the 1960s. Set, teased hair plastered with hairspray, heavy eye make-up, form fitting dresses - all were OVER.

R118. Yes. In her memoirs she wrote, "Hair had ruled me for many years... The men in my life liked it long and blonde... Perhaps I used to hide behind it." As she came to embrace feminism and radical causes and find her own persona, she asked her hairdresser to "Do something!" And voilà, the famous shag cut!

No telling how much I'd pay to hear babs sing 9 to 5.

Jane, the American Bardot.

Last time I checked, Barbra's underground boutique mall hours were 11 to 3.

The Froyo is open until 6pm though

Before implants, Jane was flat without padding and push-up bras.

Jane always had a great sense of style and a fine ass.

[quote] People would've rooted for the killer in Klute if Streisand had played the lead role in that film.

Oh, NUTS.

What cracks me up is that Babs was offered the role of the mom in The Exorcist. I can’t see her calling in the Catholic Church to save her child’s soul [bold]: o

R141

True-except for her trophy wife years 1991–2001. She somehow lost track in those Atlanta Social Clubs. Regurgitating wild georgia shrimp , grits and peaches turned her sense of style sour, i guess?

R143 Jews would monetize a child like that. I don’t care. Take a joke.

She would have turned "The Exorcist" into "Gypsy"?