Kamala on Fox Wednesday

Troll harder.

Not a troll R1.

I'm voting for her but I haven't seen anyone else other than Pete who can give Fox anchors as good as they get. I hope she will, but I'm concerned, for sure.

R2 Pete will likely make sure she is properly prepared.

It's a Hail Mary for sure.

Look at me doing sports analogies....go gay!

Kamala goes into the belly of the beast but Trump pusses out on a 60 Minutes softball interview, demanding that Leslie Stahl apologize for something she didn't say.

Kamala has brass balls, DonOLD is a fragile ❄️.

If she changes even one mind, that's a win.

Andrea Mitchell is gonna stroke out when she hears about this.

I love how unafraid she is.

[quote] Andrea Mitchell is gonna stroke out when she hears about this.

🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

This tells me her internals are showing it tied or worse.

[quote]This tells me her internals are showing it tied or worse.

Or, r10, just maybe...it's a smart move on her part.

It can be a smart move because of the state of the race, r11. My comment wasn't a criticism of the decision.

With the race so close, it's worth going on FOX. The small risk of a gaffe or infident due to a hostile grilling is worth it for her to reach a different audience. If she were solidly ahead, it wouldn't be. Just tell them f off That's the point.

I'm sure there will be cries from the left that she is better than FOX, but it's the right move for her.

Fox News is more popular than you guys think. CNN has completely ruined their reputation in the Trump era and MSNBC, even though they are the best and most factual, the hosts are just too far left for most of America. A lot of regular older white people keep the channel on Fox News, as all as many business offices. It’s a smart move.

If the internals were grim, she'd be doing an interview with the NYT and MSNBC first. This isn't that.

Kamala will be on Fox THURSDAY... and she'll do just fine. But that's not what Trump will rant in all caps...

R16 Prepare for it.

I HATE BRET BAIER

Bret Baier is already getting death threats from the cult.

[quote]If the internals were grim, she'd be doing an interview with the NYT and MSNBC first. This isn't that.

That is an excellent point. You don't do Fox News when things are looking grim, you go to friendlier outlets.

[quote]r13 = I'm sure there will be cries from the left that she is better than FOX

Of course she's better than FOX, and we're not crying. Why would we cry?

She knows that the public has been asking, if she can’t handle Fox News, how could she handle Putin, Xi, or Kim Jong Un? It’s necessary for her to bite the bullet and show that she can face (potentially) challenging questions in an interview.

She is gonna do just fine.

She’ll be fine. Trump will be taking a shit somewhere

Unless Brett spits in her face he’s fucked

Face it, you MAGA cunt supporters: Donald J. Trump is the biggest fucking wimp/pussy/whiny bitch to ever come down the pike, and all of you idiots are falling for his bullshit bigtime.

Manly? How many men spend hours in the morning doing their hair and makeup before they can be seen in public?

These interviews just become a list of boo-boos the interviewer feels you made.

At this point, it's impossible to have her subjected to a more rude and disrespectful interview than that 60 Minutes interview

Wow R18! They really are an idiotic cult. Why would they risk antagonizing him????

MSNBC, even though they are the best and most factual

Say what? Stop smoking bad shit..,

R29 I’m talking amongst cable news.

Bret Baier has been a been more moderate than the other Fox News hosts - and Trump went after him after his disastrous interview with Baier last year.

It's going to go better than you think.

How many pets did you and your family eat when you came to this country?

R30 still nuts

It can't possibly be any worse than if the NY Times interviewed her.

They've got a real hard-on for her (and Biden) since their rag isn't at the top of the easy access pile anymore and the knives are out. How dare the uppity woman try to hold the NY Times accountable?

[quote] Pete will likely make sure she is properly prepared.

Pete didn't seem to do a very good job of preparing Tim Walz for his debate. (Pete played the role of JD Vance in the practice sessions.)

This could go OK for her, and I'm optimistic. Mostly because Brett Baier is conservative but fair-ish, and because Trump is so often his worst enemy, and he will probably incite a new round of the GOP civil war in vehemently attacking Fox.

Also the idea that it's a "sign of weakness" that Harris is going on Fox? The whole freaking world knows that the race is super tight. No shame in Harris saying so openly, and expressing her intention to speak personally and directly to as many American voters as possible in this crucial moment.

I’m glad she’s doing this. It shows she has guts and isn’t a whiney bitch like Dumper.

R33 really? You think another cable news network is better and more factual? Name one.

R21 the country should be asking how deeply Fix us infiltrated by foreign adversaries

Where is MSNBC loose on facts, r38?

Her plan is to denigrate Trump directly. As she will do at her rally tonight and in her new ad.

MSNBC is opinion, not news—same as Fox.

[quote] Pete didn't seem to do a very good job of preparing Tim Walz for his debate

R35 Tim’s debate performance was Tim’s responsibility.

Bret Bair's days at FUXX are numbered. He'll go the Chris Wallace route and get booted for being fair to her.

They give their opinion on the news they're reporting, r42. Where have they not been factual, even with their opinions?

[quote] Her plan is to denigrate Trump directly. As she will do at her rally tonight and in her new ad.

Have the Democrats become the party of fear instead of issues and ideas? If Harris loses, there may be a debate on whether or not it was the right strategy to run on fear instead of campaigning on issues. Fear didn’t stop Trump from winning in 2016 and it almost didn’t stop him from winning reelection in 2020.

No. That’s not how network news works. It’s an opinion network that provides misc. news updates.

It’s a tactic, part of a greater strategy.

[quote]r42 = MSNBC is opinion, not news—same as Fox.

Then why is FOX considered "entertainment" and MSNBC is news?

It isn’t, outside of places like the DL. Even NBCUniversal treats it like a non-news network.

All Republicans have done is lie about her. She can fact check all those lies on Fox.

MSNBC's opinion shows (the primetime block) are more liberal-leaning, but the news is straight-up news. They don't slant the news in the way that Fox even slants the news. Also, Fox provides no balance. You would never find types like Scarborough, Geist, Mitchell, Tur, and Wallace on Fox.

She will fine when using this as a platform to call out Trump.

She needs to have better answer for the pushback against Walz, and she will be hit with this new charge that her ghostwriter plagiarized parts of a 2009 book.

Death threats from losers, R18? Must be a day that ends in "y" in America.

I'm glad Harris is going on FOX. It shows she is unafraid. And, instead of allowing that network to define her, she will have an opportunity to define herself to it's viewers. It's a very smart move.

Please stop trying to defend MSNBC. It’s not accurate. More to the point, it’s not worth it—no one watches MSNBC… it has no value in the public space.

What, you don't think that Ari Melber's guests such as Jason Miller, Matt Gaetz or various rappers can't be termed "hard hitting journalism"? Why so picky?

I hope she does the Pulp Fiction "two fingers pointed at the eyes" when she sees Maria Bartiromo and Laura Ingraham in the hall.

[quote]r55 = Please stop trying to defend MSNBC. It’s not accurate. More to the point, it’s not worth it—no one watches MSNBC… it has no value in the public space.

Sure, Jan. You still haven't given an example of them playing loose with facts.

I eat old people’s excrement.

[quote] This tells me her internals are showing it tied or worse.

The internals are saying the a good portion of the Haley voters are still up for grab.

Not a close race and she'll do fine with Bret. The best part will be when Donald calls in after the broadcast & soils himself during his phone-in tantrum.

I'm worried about the election overall, but I'm not worried about Kamala going on Fox. She can handle herself.

r7, if only..

I think this is a smart move especially if they air it live without editing. I just don't think the right have any 'gotchas' for her that she can't handle.

Kamala will sail through this. DUMP will have to be sporting an industrial strength Butt Plug (with reinforced straps!) to keep from exploding since she will be appearing on 'his' network. If her appearance boosts Fox ratings, then he may just self combust!

[quote]r64 = If her appearance boosts Fox ratings,

Of course it will.

Will Sunny Hostin interview her for FOX and trip her up even more ? Maybe she can ask her, "If you were a tree, what kind of tree would you be ?"

There is no reason for her to do FOX if she thinks she has it in the bag. It's amazing how many are unwilling to understand politics or accept even the possibility that she might not be doing as well with voters as she should be. Trump sucks, but you don't have to shut off your brains. It's not like real discussion will change the outcome one way or the other. Nothing we say here is going to leak out. Whatever. My mistake for commenting on a political thread a month before the election. Moving on to better threads.

And r20, there was a whole sentence there. I also find it odd you wouldn't understand the meaning of "cries from", which was not the meaning you seemed to think it was. Is English not your first language or are you just very young?

Whatever. Enjoy yourselves. On to talking about stuff that matters. Like ass and fashion. (Not being serious. I shouldn't have to say that, but thus is the state of DL these days.)

Bret Bair is not that bad. Not a full-on MAGA.

OP is a stupid bitch.

Not as stupid as r67

Please stop saying Kamala and internals in the same sentence. It's just gross.

R67 👏 👏 and not for you leaving but for your statement.

Harris/Walz 24

When races are tight, you go where the movables are. There are viewers on Fox who have never heard her speak, just "commentated on".

[quote]r67 = Is English not your first language or are you just very young?

Your condescension is duly noted...and disregarded.

I don’t think either side think they have it in the bag. I think Harris/Walz have internals which prove they are likely to reach 270 in most scenarios. NC is going to turn blue. Trump has to retain all of the traditional south minus Virginia, plus win Pennsylvania and Arizona and Nevada. Or substitute Nevada for Michigan, or Wisconsin. I believe KH will win because but going to boil down to this. He is not going to win all 3 Pennsylvania, Michigan, and North Carolina. He must do so to win.

Because it is going to boil down to*

Walz is not afraid of FOX.

Trump is already shitting his diaper about her interview with this guy. He posted a whiny screed on Truth Spectacle, crying about the injustice of it all and how he's a big boy, mommy.

I was craving Harris to urge her supporters tonight (Monday, Penn.) to reach out to their estranged siblings, uncles, aunts, etc, in an honestly loving way, and with self-care, to ask if they might now re-evaluate their support for Trump in light of the latest news.

And then tomorrow refer to him as "Uncle Bret".

Nobody thinks "she has it in the bag." It's a tight race and she's fighting for every last vote, including those who watch Fox News.

Nothing has really changed. PA is still king and she's still leading there.

R79, in light of what latest news? Every day there’s a horror story.

Well, at least nobody is 2016 complacent.

R67, she is also introducing herself to post Trump 2028 voters.

she is also introducing herself to post Trump 2028 voters.

Who gives a fuck about them right now??

Systematically taking on and shutting down all challenges.

Brett Baier is probably the best draw for the interview, absent Chris Wallace and the other normal one who used to be at Fox.

R81 Today? US Military against US citizens. I may update upon the hour.

Thanks, r85. It’s difficult to keep up with all the shit flowing from the cretin’s mouth.

Well, R72, I think I’ll dole out my applause for R67’s departure. It’s ridiculous comment is justnoise.

Buh bye R67. Enjoy the Ass and Fashion threads.

R27 the 60 Minutes interview was edited because of a question about Israel for which she had no clue on how to answer. Edited to make her look good, since CBS is an arm of the DNC.

Give me a fucking break r88. The unedited answer was fine. And I guess you haven’t been listening to her opponent, Word Salad Boy.

She’s been mostly excellent on interviews. And CBS, like any large corporation, is the arm of any entity that will make it money. Do you really think they’re for the DNC when Dump has already promised them even more tax breaks?

DL, we are really getting the mediocre trolls.

Antifa stole my cat!

Uh oh! I'm sure this is bad for Harris, right, Trumpers? And means Orange Jesus is a genius, right?

"CNBC: Trump just canceled his interview with us this week. He was going to come on"

Antifa stole my cat, aborted it's babies, performed a sex change operation, and then molested it before eating it for dinner!

R88 In the Industry, what you think of as MSNBC is known as "DEM - SNBC."

Trump has full meltdown directed at Fox News…

She's surely to be unburden by what has been.

Someone in my hometown (have seen them on FB) has a Heels Up Harris bumper sticker. I want to piss on it.

If it's so terrible for Harris that she is going in FOX, how come Orange Jesus is so triggered by it?

He wants to destroy her. That’s how he made a name for himself. He also told Fox not to reveal that Trump lost their election because it would upset viewers. His Trump interview went viral after he embarrassed him. He wants to destroy Kamala in realtime. Thankfully most people will have voted by then.

Kamala is very intelligent, she'll do fine.

R97 Trump thinks Fox is HIS network.

So did it air yet? (I don't normally go near Fox but would tune in for this one)

n/m, just googled -- 6pm tomorrow (Wed 10/16)

Looking forward to the DL watch party.

Put it this way: she’s not going to change the minds of any Faux viewers. But going on Faux shows she's not intimidated by them and it shuts down any digs from them or their viewers that she’s too afraid of them.

Oh, if this happens so many roidbros are going to cry and stomp their feetsies!

"SCOOP w/.@jeffmason1

.@KamalaHarris could sit down with .@joerogan for an interview in the final stretch of the U.S. presidential campaign, three sources said on Monday.

Harris campaign officials met with Rogan's team this week but an appearance has not been confirmed yet, two of the sources said."

Reuters has it, too. She is such a ballsy lady. Impressive as hell! Get every vote, Harris! LFG!

"Harris could join Joe Rogan podcast in hunt for male votes, sources say"

This aspect feels so different from Hillary Clinton 2016, to compare our only two women who are/were within reach of the US Presidency. Clinton turned out to be mistaken about her weakness and Trump's strength across the US electorate. Harris is under no illusions about how tight the race is; she is showing up repeatedly in the battleground states, and she's reaching out across so many forms of media for every last vote she can possibly gain.

I don't feel 100% that Harris will win, but I feel >60%, and her campaign is doing so many things right. Very proud to be a few $$ poorer on her (and their) behalf.

She is incredibly ballsy and yet she consistently says that she needs to ‘earn every vote’ which speaks to her humility and killer work ethic.

The policy proposals that Walz introduced today in WI are fantastic too. Such great energy and substance too.

One of the many differences between the Vice President and Secretary Clinton is that Clinton seemed inevitable. The feeling of inevitability hurt her. From Day 1, the Vice President has been saying that she is the underdog in this race, and she's been running like she's 5 points behind instead of a couple of points ahead. If she loses, it's not for a lack of hard work. She's fighting for this.

She’s 🔥

""In her Green Room podcast today, Jen Rubin made a hugely important point: By Kamala Harris being out there, frequently, whether it's a hard news forum or softer - if she references Trump's insanity, and does it over and over, she forces the media to cover it."

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.......

I hope she brings with her video of some of Trump’s greatest hits that Fox viewers would otherwise never see.

He should be in prison and not even an option.

Kamala telling the folks to go watch Trump rallies is good strategy. Most people are checked out and not paying attention. Maybe some of them will go watch and see his insanity firsthand.

If Kamala doesn't win I'll feel hopeless for this country. I don't want that.

Same here r115

“Kamala, do you want us to play your song? You’ve been standing there 17 minutes!”

[quote] I hope she brings with her video of some of Trump’s greatest hits that Fox viewers would otherwise never see.

If people use X, people on both sides see what the attacks are from the other side. Republicans will dismiss the Trump videos the same as Democrats dismiss the videos of Harris. There’s not a lack of information. There’s a partisan, selective processing of it.

R115, after 300,000 people voted in Georgia yesterday (breaking the record of 126k), I hope you can find some more hope.

R119 that is awesome. Trump has spent the past several years demonizing early voting and trying to stop it for nefarious reasons. To spell that out: If no early voting, then the Georgia GOP can use structural racism to make all the Black voters face the prospect of standing in 4 hour lines on Nov 5, and having no other choice.

He recently flip flopped and wants his base to vote early and by mail but that’s after years of attacking it and Fox/wingnut media participating in the attacks. Meanwhile Harris has an army of volunteers in GA getting her base to vote early. So this is a great sign that she might pull off a narrow win like Biden did.

A narrow win is not a good sign. I want her to have a win so massive that even his orangeness won't have the nerve to challenge it.

Well yeah R121 we all want things! Talking about Georgia specifically here… massive is not in the cards and never will be. So even a 51% victory would be sweet.

[quote] after 300,000 people voted in Georgia yesterday (breaking the record of 126k), I hope you can find some more hope.

That may not be good news for Harris supporters.

R123, that poll raises questions in the article. How can Gallup find that 46% of Dems and 31% of Republicans plan to vote early, but now Harvard/Harris finds that 48% of early voters say they voted Trump vs 47% say they voted Harris.

We’ll have to wait for more and clearer data.

Maybe from another source than the MAGAt newsletter Newsweek?

Just finished watching it - she certainly held her own. He was trying to have a 'gotcha moment' and she wouldn't let him have one. Now the chuckleheads at FOX are disssecting the interview and finding fault that we 'still don't know who she is'. What more do they want ? She answered every question clearly and coherently. Maybe it was the questions Baier asked that they weren't happy with - and he's the FOX interviewer.

He wouldn’t let her answer the questions. So unprofessional.

Agreed, r126.

Ooops! I missed it. Where can I find it -- YT?

MSNBC just ran a clip, she wasn't letting Baier get away with anything.

I missed it too. I thought it was going to be prime time.

Tune into Ingraham Angle at 7 pm - Ingraham has Eric Trump on to dissect it. That should be worth a number of laughs. Eric had the attention span to watch this ?

I missed it, too, but from the clips I just saw, she appeared to do just fine. I applaud her for having the guts to go there and face down those assholes in their own house.

Yup his approach was red meat to the base but off putting to moderates esp women. He just jumped down her neck and tried to shout her down. She couldn't get a word in edgeways so he looked unhinged and totally biased.

She did fine, but I don't think it will change any minds of Fox viewers.

[quote] Maybe from another source than the MAGAt newsletter Newsweek?

Rick Wilson didn't get the memo that we're not allowed to cite Newsweek.

The Girls got some onions! Good for her - and America! Kamala for the WIN!

Ingraham and Eric are falling over themselves trying to make a case against Harris. It's really not happening for them. I hope Ingraham is getting big bucks to embarrass herself having a discussion with Eric Trump.

R136 - she didn’t need to change the minds of any Fux viewers. She just needed to show up and stand her ground. And she did. Fux now can’t say she was too scared to face them. Like the 🍊 🤡 refused a second debate because he was scared.

From what I've seen on Twitter, Bret continuously interrupted her and wouldn't let her finish a thought. He was extremely rude and just trying to rattle her. Fuck Fox. Not a single real journalist on the entire staff.

He was so ridiculous but it will turn off moderate women when they see the clips on social media. He was basically shouting a predetermined monologue at her. Trump has never been interviewed like this and no man would ever be interviewed like this either.

R141 He had to make an attempt to interrupt when she didn't answer a specific question and turned everything into blaming Trump. Has never answered why they didn't stop immigration from Mexico in the beginning of Biden's term.

This is R143:

[quote] If Kamala wins, she'd better be wearing double Depends confronting Putin or the head of China. She'll shit in her pants suit.

[quote] Putin wants her to win, so he will have control in any negotiations, as will the Chinese government.

[quote] Kamala better wear a double set of Depends when Putin controls the conversation.

Like Dear Leader, every accusation is a confession so go change your Depends.

Fox and Trump have been saying that she’s a retarded, Marxist Hyena. All she needed to do was not be that.

She did great. Imagine the orange felon going on Maddow.

VP Harris has bigger balls than any of the turds in the GOP.

I’m a SCAT QUEEN!!!

Pete Booty goes on Fox all the time.

Did you finally make it home from the Coachella rally, R143?

Rick Wilson weigh in.

^ What he had to say:

[quote] You know how I know Kamala did well on Fox? Because the MAGA bleating sounds like someone throwing a goat in a wood chipper.

“Kamala, you’re looking so beautiful tonight! Do you want to play your song?”

She kicked ass. Really well done. That lady earned the win. She should be president.

i looked on Twitter to see what MAGA is saying. Weirdly, both sides think the clips everybody's talking about prove their bias.

[quote]Has never answered why they didn't stop immigration from Mexico in the beginning of Biden's term.

She has answered this in literally EVERY interview she's ever done. But you already knew that.

Good one r149!

lmao

She sounded smart and rational. She must have been schooled by Pete. Take no bullshit, take no prisoners, Expose them when possible.

[quote]He had to make an attempt to interrupt when she didn't answer a specific question and turned everything into blaming Trump.

Yes, she wasn't up to the standard of playing music and swaying back and forth for 39 minutes while even her supporters gave glassy smiles, trying to pretend it was normal. She's a complete and total failure on that front.

Whew, good to hear she did OK and not surprised Baier was an overbearing rude jackass half the time.

She did not do well.

But it's not going to change anything. So there's that.

[QUOTE] She did not do well.

According to who, R160?

Too bad this wasn't announced earlier, MVP could've brought it up.

Very, very "presidental" of Orange Jesus, don't you think, R160?

""BREAKING: From .@maddow on .@chrislhayes :: We have just learned that Trump tried to pay Stormy Daniels hush money a second time.

During negotiations for Stormy to pay Donald what she owed him, Trump offered her a discount to silence her. And Stormy has it on video, and there are emails."

[quote]According to who, [R160]?

Any objective observer.

Is that right, R163? And how’s the weather in Moscow?

He tried to pay her off again *this summer*.

The summer of 2024.

Oh my freaking Lord. What an inept jackass.

I have R160/163 blocked. MAGA folks are revolting

[quote]Is that right, [R163]? And how’s the weather in Moscow?

That response perfectly illustrates your idiocy.

R167 can you be specific as to what she did wrong in your opinion?

IMO all she had to do is show up. More than shit pants has done

"Harris campaign spokesman .@brianefallon on the Fox interview :

“I think there is a good number of Independents, and Haley-style Republicans, who are very open to voting for VP Harris and that is why we are open to doing events with Republicans on Fox News.”

“We feel like we definitely achieved what we set out to achieve, in the sense that she was able to reach an audience that is probably been not exposed to the arguments she’s been making on the trail, and she also got to show her toughness in standing tall against a hostile interviewer.”"

"What *she* owed him?" What did Stormy Daniels owe Trump? Don't tell me he tried to get the payoff back from her.

"If Trump doesn't go on the Rachel Maddow show before the election, he's a bitch"

R168 She's just not good at evading questions. She resorts to word salad, goes off on tangents and seems rattled. It doesn't give a good impression.

JD Vance on the other hand does have a talent for making bullshit smell like perfume.

Brett Baier was pretty awful too. Talking over her. Interrupting. BUT he did hand her some tough questions and that was a good thing.

However, I doubt this interview is going to change anyone's opinion at this pont.

Goals of both: achieved

"Kamala Harris's goal in the interview: Rationally and calmly answer pointed questions to show America she is cool and quick thinking under pressure.

Bret Baier's goal in the interview: Make sure Fox viewers don't send him anthrax, horse heads or firebomb his home."

R167 is a MAGA troll

She was great, IMO. Refused to let him steamroll her, stayed on message.

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD WILL DONALD J. TRUMP PLEASE SHIT IN MY MOUTH???!!!!

I don’t understand why democrats keep doing interviews and debating. Biden’s first debate destroyed him. Kamala’s interviews are bringing more negativities to her campaign. Trump can hide why can’t democrats’ candidates ? Biden should refuse any debate from the very beginning.

Huge improvement from her 60 Minutes interview.

As usual, Pete sums it up perfectly.

"Buttigieg: It was a show of strength. That is the exact opposite of the weakness that Donald Trump has demonstrated by pulling out of going even on CNBC, which is hardly a liberal bastion. Or 60 minutes."

[quote]I don’t understand why democrats keep doing interviews and debating. Biden’s first debate destroyed him. Kamala’s interviews are bringing more negativities to her campaign.

This is the thing that's interesting.

Kamala had a great performance at the Convention. She destroyed Trump at the debate. Meanwhile Trump is ever more unhinged, sounding more crazy than ever.

End result?

Polls show the race tightening. Or at best stalled. Kamala should be killing it in the polls but she's not. Not as of this writing anyway.

[quote] Trump can hide why can’t democrats’ candidates ?

First, you’re missing a comma. Second, nothing is gained from hiding. Those who won’t vote for trump are possibly doing so as he’s shitty at answering questions openly and honestly. Harris can. You’re simply a GOP apologist at this point

[quote]She resorts to word salad, goes off on tangents and seems rattled. It doesn't give a good impression.

SHE resorts to word salads and goes off on tangents?!

Here's the thing. This overbearing knucklehead of an interviewer continually interrupted Harris as she spoke, and did so to such an extent she had to keep verbally swatting at him and talk over him. And when she talked about her plans going forward, he seconds later asked how she would be different from Biden, despite the fact that her previous response answered that question - demonstrating he was pretty much ignoring her responses.

Overall I thought she did a good job of going toe-to-toe with him, and I liked that eventually she was talking over HIM when it was obvious her responses didn't matter.

As I said on another thread on this interview, everyone should press Trump on appearing on Lawrence O'Donnell's show.

BTW if you want to see what real word salad looks like, try to make sense out of Trump's recent salad bar at the link:

[quote]BTW if you want to see what real word salad looks like, try to make sense out of Trump's recent salad bar at the link:

My post wasn't about Trump. It was about Kamala Harris.

When I am continuously interrupted by someone who has asked me a question (this is always at work) I stop speaking and watch them while they eventually run out of blather then say “If you’re going to interrupt me when I am providing an answer to a question that you’ve just posed, it makes me wonder what was the point of the question / makes me think that you don’t like my answer. Why is that?”.

Then I resume. It almost always shuts them down, especially if there’s an audience, which there usually is for these twats.

Of course I know that Harris dealing with Fox is in a whole other stratosphere - but they’re welcome to it!

Fiddle-dee-dee! Polls, polls, polls; this polls talk's spoiling all the fun at every party this fall. I get so bored I could scream.

Seriously though! All you Alyssa Farah Griffins out here need to stop with the polls talk. The far majority of polls are TRASH! They were trash when they indicated that Hillary Clinton was in the lead leading up to Election Day 2016. Take these damn polls with a grain of salt PLEASE.

[quote]My post wasn't about Trump. It was about Kamala Harris.

As I suggested in R183, she WAS in fact responding to questions but was constantly interrupted by a hostile interviewer. So given that, I can't imagine anyone being able to provide the answers you want because she wasn't questioned by a normal journalist.

My link was to contrast her "word salad" as you put it to a real word salad - and on top of that someone not only not facing a hostile interviwer (or any interviewer) but in fact talking an adoring audience.

That's no comfort at all.

[quote]When I am continuously interrupted by someone who has asked me a question (this is always at work) I stop speaking and watch them while they eventually run out of blather then say “If you’re going to interrupt me when I am providing an answer to a question that you’ve just posed, it makes me wonder what was the point of the question / makes me think that you don’t like my answer. Why is that?”.

When Martha Raddatz on ABC interrupted JD Vance and wouldn't let him complete his response to a question, he used a different tactic to turn it around and embarrass her. He was able to mock her point that it was only a small number of apartment complexes in Colorado that are now ruled by Venezuelan gangs. Maybe Harris could have tried doing something similar.

R176 nails It.

She was great.

He lost any respectability when he showed her a clip of Trump denying what he has said repeatedly about “the enemy within.” She called him out on it, but it was outrageously misleading. He also showed one of Trump’s campaign commercials during the interview.

Do we think she was late on purpose to keep it short? It would have been okay if it had gone on longer. She was getting better as it went on.

I donated another 50 after the interview.

EVERYBODY STOP!

Her Royal Fatness The Princess Meghan McCain of Arizona has farted out her opinion on this!

My Fat Daughter interrupts people like Bret does.

She needs to skip Joe Rogan. She's not getting the incel vote no matter what she does. Why can't she just keep doing rallies while Dump further implodes?

She was great. They suck. End of. We’re going to slaughter them in 3 weeks.

[quote]Someone in my hometown (have seen them on FB) has a Heels Up Harris bumper sticker. I want to piss on it.

On the bright side - really? Srsly? That's all they've got to attack her with?

Weak.

Fucking.

Sauce.

(Double-check your voter registration, with your state's election board, ESPECIALLY if you're in a swing state.)

I expect Brett Baier to be biased but he's usually a smooth operator.

He says that the Harris team cut short his allotted time and he was rushed. He felt Kamala was taking her time, that she was filibustering to play out the interview, limiting the number of questions he could ask. Whatever. That may have been true, but he didn't handle it in a skillful way.

[quote]That may have been true, but he didn't handle it in a skillful way.

What would have been the proper and skillful way to call her out for deliberately showing up late and trying to run out the clock so she could avoid as many questions as possible?

R199 I don't know. It's not my job.

But interrupting and talking over her, played into her hands.

I just watching the interview on YouTube. I hate contentious interviews. The first question was asking her for a number and it seemed like she was going into a monologue instead of providing the number. I could see why Baier needed to bring her back to the question at hand.

^ She kept doing that all through the interview.

[quote]Fear didn’t stop Trump from winning in 2016 and it almost didn’t stop him from winning reelection in 2020.

But he did lose. And with the incumbency advantage, at that. Do you understand how difficult that is to pull off in modern times? So I guess the strategy worked as intended.

[quote]Have the Democrats become the party of fear instead of issues and ideas?

The guy keeps repeating he wants to be dictator on day one and that we'll never have to vote again, AND he'll appoint Musk to gut all the federal agencies he can get his white supremacist hands on. Fear is entirely merited.

Troll harder. Seriously, you're a parody of yourself.

r198, you mean she played them?

If no further debate, I expect another Fox interview early November.

I have R160 to R163 blocked as well. An unhappy, defiant, MAGA turd, who eats the corn out of trumps shit.

She was great. Hands-down the winner. shame on Boo-Baier, who be crying his eyes out in shame on November 5th. He fucked with the wrong woman.

Body language folks.

You know she won big because, rather than identifying her failures, Fox’s post-debate commentators spent their time insisting opinions wouldn’t be changed and shoring up Bret: telling a sheepish Baier on how his “great” his questions were.

Bret got under her skin, more importantly, he made her look like the incompetent fool that she is. She couldn’t answer any of the questions. The chefs kiss was when he asked her when she noticed Biden’s decline. This interview was a disaster for her.

Who is the weirdo at R208? Is it the same thing at r201? Because that’s who I’m about to respond to.

The first question wasn’t even a question, it was an attempt at a gotcha moment right from the beginning. He didn’t want real information, he just wanted to catch her. And she didn’t fall for it.

And I hate when someone asking a questioning doesn’t get the answer they want so they say “I haven’t finished asking my question,” then changes tactics. Maybe he would have had more time if his questions weren’t two minute run on sentences.

R208 has been quoting Candace Owens and Judge Joe to “prove” that Kamala is not black.

This is their position so Kamala could announce a cure for cancer and they’d find a way to discredit it -

[quote] Kamala is not black and got where she is through fucking and sucking.

They have, unsurprisingly, not commented on any of Trump’s disasters.

I liked the interview. I thought she did great. I like seeing her get angry, but not frazzled. I like seeing her challenge him just to be heard. I am not a woman, but just on a visceral level I can see a lot of women relating to that exact frustration when dealing with blowhards.

There are two things more I wish she would have done:

1. I WISH she had called Trump not just unstable but WEAK as well, like she has in other interviews this week. That would have been beautiful to hear on Fox.

2. This is just a fantasy, but I’d love to have had her say at then end, “Thank you so much. This was great, I’ll be happy to come back anytime to finish this conversation.” Totally marking her territory on Trump’s playground.

So you don’t have to look for it… just FWI, it’s Fox YouTube if you don’t want to click on it.

VP Harris owned Bret Baier, and Fox News.

It happened the moment she agreed to the interview.

She used their own territory to advance the cause, and Trumpers and Fox mandarins can try to spin away from that. but there is no avoiding that fact.

Brett Baier looked like he was staring down a freight train during the interview, no matter how he tries to justify his weak attempts at mansplaining to the sitting Vice President of the United States.

And the sheer number of MAGA trolls vociferously denying that she made her points, along with the Fox News analyst begrudgingly admitting that she did well shows another victory in uncharted territory for a woman who will likely be the first female POTUS.

Cry harder trolls. Thou dost troll too much.

From Mark Cuban:

"The beautiful thing about the .@BretBaier interview is that .@KamalaHarris understood and responded to each question.

She used examples of policies. She gave real world context.

When Brett went hard after her. She didn’t call him names. She didn’t quit the interview. She didn’t make things up. She never once complained the questions were tough. She never played the victim card. She didn’t lose her temper. She didn’t take the bait to diminish or talk down to Trump supporters.

She stood up to him with force and never backed down.

He has been the President and campaigning for 9 years. Kamala Harris has caught up to him in just 100 days . That speaks volumes.

It’s why people want to vote for her. That’s why so many Republicans and Independents are supporting her

She is everything her opponent is not and will never be.

Strong, Smart and Measured"

[quote]This overbearing knucklehead of an interviewer continually interrupted Harris as she spoke, and did so to such an extent she had to keep verbally swatting at him and talk over him. And when she talked about her plans going forward, he seconds later asked how she would be different from Biden, despite the fact that her previous response answered that question - demonstrating he was pretty much ignoring her responses.

You nailed it. He was taking the place of Trump and trying to 'debate' her, not interview her (since there will not be another Trump / Harris debate) and she won this debate, too.

Let's face it - if Trump was sitting for the interview, BB would have never treated him this way. Ever.

These last days are going to painted in very broad strokes and you have to see the literal bigger picture. No little nit-picky thing about misspoken words and such will forge any new ways of thinking.

The broader stroke being painted now is that Kamala has Balls to put her hand in the fire to be tested and Trump is a Pussy. She is going places where she will be challenged, while he in hiding, surrounds himself in rallies and softball interviews.

Trump IS a pussy - a BIG pussy

Then I love the way Kamala is standing up and grabbing the country by the Pussy.

Speaking of which, watch to the end for Dave Bautista to make the case on Kimmel.

Take me, Bautista you sexy beast!

No clue who he is but he makes as good a case as any

she's kind of a fucking dingbat. I hope she reads this thread to boost her ego.

[quote]she's kind of a fucking dingbat. I hope she reads this thread to boost her ego.

Name-calling is all Ivan, Evgeny and Boris have now. Bad, Russki Trolls, BAD!

As R224 resorts to name calling.

R225, HILARIOUS, isn't it, you piece of shit.

The trolls are so desperate. It’s funny and sad. Mostly funny.

Conway would know; they are his peers. His friends and relatives. His people.

"I want to repeat something I've tweeted before, that .@gtconway3d spoke to masterfully on Morning Joe this morning: There's a strong segment of the Fox audience base that is addicted. Their addictions are to the Fox "trump is competent' narrative or the "lib-owning" narrative and they get dopamine rushes when these addictions are reinforced. As George says - these people will not likely be swayed by Harris' one-time appearance. They're addicted.

But George also said that there are many others who KNOW they're not getting the full truth from Fox, and they KNOW that Trump is divisive, and exhausting, and some even notice his decline. And Harris did a good job scoring points with THEM and showing who she is as an alternative, by comparison. I couldn't agree with this more.

People should realize - simple math - and you've heard me say this before - any time there is a group that is tens of millions large, it's NOT homogenous. It can't be. There are gradations. Trump voters are not all the same. Fox watchers are NOT all the same. We see the craziest 2 to 5% of them way more often than we see the others.

I'm so glad Harris did this interview."

That Bautista ad at the end of Jimmy Kimmel at R220.. !! So fucking good.

Great points r228

[quote] Conway would know;

Yes, plus he’s a neutral observer with no bias, so we can trust what he says is true.

Using an objective consensus how did she do? I've only seen the one clip which seems to be in high rotation.

[quote] Using an objective consensus how did she do?

Is an objective analysis possible? From what I observe on X and media headlines, the Republicans appear to be greatly celebrating because they believe she did poorly. Although there is some Democratic praise for her performance, most of the Democratic response appears to be about Baier’s questioning rather than cheering how Harris did. From that, I would have to say that it was a net negative for her.

R233, thank you but I was looking more for a personal assessment based on the interview itself. As for SM and supposed public perception, the right will always tear her apart and the left will praise her to kingdom come. I was wondering how she handled the questions and if she held her own against Baier.

[quote] I was looking more for a personal assessment

How would that be “objective”?

R235, by putting preferences aside and viewing through an objective lens. When I say "personal assessment" I meant by an individual not through an overview of social media reactions.

I'm not one of those DLers who gets carried away by my spank me, diva syndrome.

She was very well served by her prosecutor mode. Turning that catch into a save on the enemy within clip was a masterpiece of determination and intelligence. To catch that in the middle of everything else. Impressive.

She demonstrated strength. She wasn't slick but she was obviously determined.

She was dogged, as usual, by accusations of a lack of specificity (not wholly unfair) and weaker answers in trickier areas (like the border, how are you not a continuation of the Biden administration.) I do not know how, at this point, she hasn't got lines to put those fuckers to bed, but it always seems to trip her up at least a bit.

Not once did his gotcha work and he tried and tried and tried. She was not having it. Even in her worst moment she had it going on over him.

It wasn't a game changing interview but it was a damned impressive showing if your ears and mind were open. This was about optics. She went into the lion's den and she came out alive. Did she shift anybody? Hard to say. It is Fox. Maybe a few.

But she survived - very, very well. First do no harm.

Abortion never came up, yet more than a few women would have been tuned into the mansplaining going on. She did more than no harm, she did fine.

Kamala wiped Bauer on the floor. Fantastic interview on Fox.

Objectively I thought she was strong. Whether someone agrees with her or not, you saw that she is a fighter and won’t get pushed around. I did like the line around immigration that out of the two people running for president she is the only one who has actually prosecuted and gone after cartels and protected American people, something that can get you easily killed, others have been.

I also liked how dismissive she was of stupid questions like the trans issue and the clip they played. She made the point that in the larger scale of things, this issue is SO remote - and Trump spent 20’million dollars on that ad. That kind of info, knowing how much he spent, she had at the ready and came back with he’s wasting money on silliness to drum up fear. Especially as she said, Trump followed the exact same law.

And dismissive of the “when did you first notice Biden’s decline?” She was like - what the fuck does that have to do with the price of tea in China? She said Biden is not on the ballot. That was another “gotcha” question shoehorned in at the last minute to try and prove what, I don’t know - that she lied to the American people about the president of the United States, her boss?

It’s crazy how they try and trip her up about lying when Trump gets away with lying 40 times in one speech and no one bats a lash.

She did drive home that he has no plan.

They used a similar trans ad throughout the midterms in 2022. To no real effect.

Her final, uninterrupted takedown of trump and his “Enemy Within” bullshit was brilliantly delivered. It’s probably still ringing in the ears of Fox’s Haley voters.

Did Baier's poosey stink?

Thank you for all of the insightful posts. I appreciate you taking the time to answer my question.

Did you see her respond to some hecklers this afternoon?

"You're at the wrong rally ... I think you want the smaller one down the street."

[quote] most of the Democratic response appears to be about Baier’s questioning rather than cheering how Harris did

Not true; what I'm seeing on Democratic and centrists outfits is praise of her strength and incisiveness, along the lines of R240's post.

Why Kamala Harris is Happy with the Fox Interview

[QUOTE]“Tactically, Harris can score points by highlighting the Baier interview to show she is not afraid to go into red territory and take hard questions, while Trump hides and ducks debates and tough interviews,” said Jim Kessler, co-founder of the left-center think tank Third Way.

[QUOTE]”She used examples of policies. She gave real world context,” Mark Cuban said on Twitter. “When [Baier] went hard after her. She didn’t call him names. She didn’t quit the interview. She didn’t make things up. She never once complained the questions were tough. She never played the victim card. She didn’t lose her temper. She didn’t take the bait to diminish or talk down to Trump supporters.”

[QUOTE]The interview netted 7.1 million viewers and during the roughly half hour segment, Harris was able to show off aspects of her personality and insert talking points about her plans, like for affordable housing and small business expansion.

[QUOTE]She worked to get her message across, which largely involved criticism of Trump. That effort was considered a win by her campaign because viewers tuned in who may not have watched her previous interviews, let alone her recent rallies.

I voted early - for the Blue team over the Orange one.

The more I here Kamala speak, how she's pushing forward with her campaign and her deftness in her FOX interview (among the others) I think she will make a kick-ass president. I just hope the undecided voters (really, they're still undecided?) realize she's the hope we need now.

^ you sound like an SEC football fan.

It’s much more fundamental than your note.

“Dingbat”, R223? Who the hell says “dingbat” any more? Did you find that in your dictionary of 1960s insults?

Ha ha!

R223 is Archie Bunker

It looks like the debate did move the betting markets.

The RCP betting odds average now has Trump at 58.1 vs. Kamala at 40.9

The new story is the Al Smith dinner. Harris made a mistake in choosing not to go.

R254, I'm glad she didn't go. Fast moving news cycle - today will be about the release of additional evidence in the Jan 6 case. By the way, did they roast how priests have gotten away with diddling little boys for hundreds of years?

Did someone say "diddling kids"? That reminds me of my bestie, Jeffrey! I miss him. Great guy!

The dinner seems to have been a bust. Brought down in large part by the presence of He Who Shall Not Be Named (at a religious event?); and his manifest inability to read - - even a joke.

And he used the word shit in his remarks. These cardinals are just a bunch of asswipes.

He sounded like he graduated at the bottom of his class from Derek Zoolander's school for Kids Who Can Read Good.

I know this sounds Victorian, but everybody seems to be swearing these days. Anderson and Josh Shapiro both said bullshit on CNN in the last few days (Shapiro last night)... now Trump.

Has everybody decided it gives them street cred or something?

No you’re not being Victorian r260. I still can’t believe a commercial that plays on CNN uses HARD instead of erection. It basically says take our pill if you wanna get hard and stay hard. What is happening.

^^ We're trending downward as a society. It's mind-boggling.

Betting markets are based on profit. They're adjusting odds, based on bets placed, to make sure they win no matter the outcome. It's not a prediction of who will win, it's a reaction to how overseas people are betting.

And you'd reckon - totally snobbery here - the kind of people who bet are on some level more personally disposed to Trump. It's hard to imagine many East coast or blue wall Liberal leaners betting at all.

[quote] the kind of people who bet are on some level more personally disposed to Trump.

They’re not betting to show some kind of support. They’re betting on whom they believe will win so that they can make money from it.

R265 he is just saying that gamblers are more likely to be Trump supporters.

[quote]Anderson and Josh Shapiro both said bullshit on CNN in the last few days (Shapiro last night)

r260, Shapiro is famous or infamous in PA for having a VERY loose and foul tongue. even his supporters have complained about it. for better and for worse campaign slogans like "getting shit done" and "fuck around and find out" are gaining traction under his adminstration

That gambling site is BS - Nothing but major Trump donors ginning up his odds so it looks like he is getting re-elected to rubes who believe this BS

Gamblers are not the most discernering people. And gambling addicts are not the type of people who make the most informed or intelligent choices. So, I'm going to take a "pass" on their advice regarding this election's outcome.

Here’s your betting news

"Polymarket has taken the political world by storm, becoming the go-to source for U.S. election odds and probabilities. U.S. customers will need a VPN to actually trade on the platform, and all users need a crypto wallet to deposit and make trades."

Translation: The vast majority of betting on the site is non-US citizens. Yes, Elon, it does seem like a totally reliable polling source.

R260 I personally love to hear curses slip in politics and journalism. It makes it more authentic, because we all know everyone in Washington curses like sailors when they're not on air.

One of Kamala's recent TV ads (the one that used the clip of Trump shit-talking Detroit) uses the word 'goddamn'. THAT one was shocking to me.

[quote] now Trump.

No, Trump began the Anschluss to crassness, as Fox never censors him. He has f bombed years ago, Bullshit and shithole are his standard fare.

[QUOTE]Gamblers are not the most discernering people. And gambling addicts are not the type of people who make the most informed or intelligent choices. So, I'm going to take a "pass" on their advice regarding this election's outcome.

There's a reason why a fundamental pattern of erroneous and costly pattern of thinking is called the "gamblers' fallacy."

Don't the high stakes billionaire douche bros understand something so fundamental?

You know, if you’re confident that Harris will win, you could bet on her and take the losers’ money.

If the tech bros can waste that much money gambling that Trump will win, they can certainly afford to pay their fair share in taxes.

[QUOTE]You know, if you’re confident that Harris will win, you could bet on her and take the losers’ money.

I'm not sure what kind of "confidence" you are trying to conjure up, if it's not the origin of "CON" men who prey upon greedy people who want A LOT for next to nothing, and yet, are stupidly confident in people who want to rob them blind and manipulate the casino (or their "wallet" containing all sorts of crypto secrets and delicacies, according to Trump’s newest huckster stream of income)

I can't because I'm a U..S. citizen. Did you miss that crucial piece about betting on the outcome of U. S. elections, more precisely -- who cannot?

Gambling is idiotic. Fortunately, it's done by idiots.

The house always wins.

But if you are the house I’m thinking it’s a great way to launder money.

R274 - rich douchebros and the wealthy gamblers in general will place bids on both sides and play up betting high/more on one party in particular, maybe even switching back and forth. It's a strategy to get a lot of stupid people to follow their lead. The rich will make money no matter who actually wins because they're rich and can afford to throw money away manipulating the stakes. All that to say that no, you shouldn't rely on the betting markets for any kind of a clear picture because the odds/stakes are always being massaged by those significantly richer than most betting.

R277, don’t you have some clouds you should be yelling at? Sounds like you lost some money on the slots and have never gotten over it.

Bless your heart, r281.

[quote]The house always wins.

Except if Trump owns the casino. Then it goes bankrupt.

[quote]And he used the word shit in his remarks. These cardinals are just a bunch of asswipes.

Everything Trump touches dies, including the Church.

[quote]They’re betting on whom they believe will win

Oh, dear!