“A Nightmare on Elm Street 2: Freddy’s Revenge”- why do people hate this sequel so much?

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It’s very homoerotic which I love.

Audiences didn't like the male scream queen. They made a whole documentary about it.

It fucking sucked. It was inferior to the first one on every way, from the actors to the characters to the scenes to the kills to Freddy himself, who seemed far weaker in this one. The girl not getting scared making him weak? Lame. The party scene? Lame. It was just awful.

Everything about this sequel was wrong. It wasn’t fun or exciting or scary at all, unlike the first. Also, no final girl but a guy instead? He was also the most annoying character in the film. Just doesn’t work.

There was nothing homoerotic about this film though. Idk what that person watched. Maybe a gay porn parody? A friend having his friend sleepover isn’t homoerotic.

The sequel just didn’t work because of the male protagonist. It flopped with critics and the public, but did well at the box office. The public hated the male protagonist and especially hated the homoerotic subtext. The film destroyed the lead actors career.

A lot of NOES fans don’t even acknowledge the second one. And like someone said, people will watch the first and skip to the third.

To make matters worse, the second is the only one that doesn’t tie into the franchise as a whole. The third film loops the first film in by bringing back Nancy and every sequel afterwards is tied together. The second is never tied in nor acknowledged by the rest of the franchise. Completely ignored.

It’s sad that the script writer threw the lead under the bus when the film faced backlash for being “gay”. He said he didn’t write a gay film but that Mark was sooooo gay he ruined the movie.

I didn’t think it sucked that much and I loved the homoeroticism.

I love scary movies but this franchise never did it for me. The dream stuff was a no starter.

You might want to watch it again R4 with homoeroticism in mind.

The problem is is that it tried to be something completely different than the first movie and it might have worked to the star been more charismatic and relatable but he just wasn't. Logically Freddie manifesting himself through others works but the movie itself ultimately just wasn't that good and then it just sort of ends.

And when you think about it New Nightmare is basically the same concept as the second movie and people did enjoy it because it's still built on the previous films and had characters we liked.

Part II also ignores the dream logic and has Freddy show up in reality at the pool party (maybe other times too; been a long time since I watched it.)

I don’t hate the movie and it’s not the worst in the franchise but it does feel like the ugly stepchild since its story is ignored in all the other sequels

They even changed the story of where Freddy killed his victims from the first one. It was in the school originally and this changed it to some plant outside town.

R11 New Nightmare was a meta film that bombed at the box office.

R11 there were many articles back in 1985 and 1986 accusing the film of being gay and accusing the writer of pushing gay propaganda disguised as a horror film. The films gay subtext killed it.

Even the director, writer and stars acknowledge this. It’s not even debatable. No one would cast Mark after this and even his own agents watched the movie and told him they are gonna have to push him in character acting because he wasn’t believable as straight and if you aren’t straight you aren’t getting roles.

The writer even put the blame of the film becoming hated for being “gay” on Mark and then said he wasn’t making a homoerotic film but instead a homophobic film that people could watch and see the horrors of homosexuality.

Not following the “rules” of the first one. I like it. I think Freddy is at his scariest in this movie (they did a little tweaking with the makeup). I like Jesse, Grady, Lisa, the parents, his little sister, and even the coach. I was totally clueless about the Gay stuff until the Never Sleep Again documentary.

[quote]New Nightmare was a meta film that bombed at the box office.

It didn't bomb, it just made less than the other films. It still made a $12M profit, which for the time, was pretty good. It also had great critical reviews.

Horror was dead in the early 90s and this film was the precursor to Scream which re-ignited the horror craze of the late 90s.

New Nightmare earned $19.7 million worldwide. It didn’t earn $12 million in profits.

R16 did you miss the gay bar scene (which was originally supposed to be a transvestite bar but the studio said no and forced them to add women to the scene to make it less gay) or how the Coach was killed? I mean Freddy tying him up in the shower against the wall, stripping him naked and then killing him in a BDSM manner? Or Jesse as a whole and some of his dialogue?

It went over a lot of peoples heads (and also didn’t others) but when you watch now while older you pick up on it more.

There is also Jesse and Lisa finally about to have sex and then Him ditching her to be with and confide in Grady instead.

I loved the Mark Patton-Robert Rusler fight scene.

R14 yes I know it's a meta film but the factory means that it still follows a lot of the same threads in that Freddy is a force that manifest ino the real world through physical objects related to previous films.

And I never claimed it was financially successful and to me that's not really much of a measure as far as whether a movie is good or not the fact remains that the people that did see it they enjoyed it and reviewed it favorably .