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Octopuses seen hunting together with fish — and punching fish that don't cooperate

Octopuses don’t always hunt alone — but their partners aren’t who you’d expect.

A new study shows that some members of the species Octopus cyanea maraud around the seafloor in hunting groups with fish, which sometimes include several fish species at once.

The research, published in the journal Nature on Monday, even suggests that the famously intelligent animals organized the hunting groups’ decisions, including what they should prey upon.

What’s more, the researchers witnessed the cephalopod species — often called the big blue or day octopus — punching companion fish, apparently to keep them on task and contributing to the collective effort.

Octopuses have often been thought to avoid other members of their species and prowl solo using camouflage. But the study suggests that some octopuses have surprisingly rich social lives — a finding that opens a new window into the marvels of undersea life. It’s an indication that at least one octopus species has characteristics and markers of intelligence that scientists once considered common only in vertebrates.

“I think sociality, or at least attention to social information, is way more deep-rooted in the evolutionary tree than we might think,” said Eduardo Sampaio, a postdoctoral researcher at the Max Planck Institute of Animal Behavior and the lead author of the research.

“We are very similar to these animals,” he added. “In terms of sentience, they are at a very close level or closer than we think toward us.”

To understand the inner details of octopus lives, researchers dived for about a month at a reef off the coast of Eilat, Israel, and tracked 13 octopuses for a total of 120 hours using several cameras. The team followed the octopuses for 13 hunts, during which they observed groups of between two and 10 fish working with each octopus.

These hunting groups typically included several species of reef fish, such as grouper and goatfish. The octopuses did not appear to lead the groups, but they did punch at fish to enforce social order — most often at blacktip groupers.

“The ones that get more punched are the main exploiters of the group. These are the ambush predators, the ones that don’t move, don’t look for prey,” Sampaio said.

Octopuses would also punch fish to keep the group moving.

“If the group is very still and everyone is around the octopus, it starts punching, but if the group is moving along the habitat, this means that they’re looking for prey, so the octopus is happy. It doesn’t punch anyone,” Sampaio said.

The researchers think fish benefit from such hunting groups because an octopus can reach into crevices where prey hides and root out lunch. The octopus benefits, they believe, because it can simply follow the fish to food, rather than perform what the researchers call speculative hunting.

“For the octopus, it’s also an advantage because it doesn’t need to sample or go around the environment,” Sampaio said. “You can just look at the fish.”

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by Anonymousreply 43September 24, 2024 9:44 PM

Missy Octopus CUTTA BITCH!

by Anonymousreply 1September 23, 2024 10:30 PM

Dollface thread.

by Anonymousreply 2September 23, 2024 10:36 PM

Octopuses are highly intelligent creatures. They may even be human level intelligent. The can reason and problem solve.

by Anonymousreply 3September 23, 2024 10:40 PM

The bullies of the sea.

by Anonymousreply 4September 23, 2024 10:40 PM

Tentacular!

by Anonymousreply 5September 23, 2024 10:42 PM

I, for one, welcome our new cephalopod overlords.

by Anonymousreply 6September 23, 2024 10:44 PM

Murderous sea thugs.

by Anonymousreply 7September 23, 2024 10:52 PM

Since it wasn't a vicious face slapping, I guess we can infer they're straight.

by Anonymousreply 8September 23, 2024 10:57 PM

If you think that's something, you should see Octopussy in action.

by Anonymousreply 9September 23, 2024 11:02 PM

Your Octopussy stinks, R9!

by Anonymousreply 10September 23, 2024 11:05 PM

[quote]The bullies of the sea.

MAGApus!

by Anonymousreply 11September 23, 2024 11:13 PM

These motherfuckers are next in line to be the 2nd most intelligent species on the planet.

by Anonymousreply 12September 23, 2024 11:36 PM

I always KNEW octopi were butch tops!

by Anonymousreply 13September 23, 2024 11:38 PM

Mean Girls of the sea.

by Anonymousreply 14September 23, 2024 11:40 PM

Someone has to keep those lazy fish in line!

by Anonymousreply 15September 23, 2024 11:41 PM

I have a fantasy of an octopus pinning down my arms and legs with all 4 of his tentacles while he uses 2 of them to jerk me off and the other 2 to double penetrate me.

by Anonymousreply 16September 23, 2024 11:42 PM

Thank you for sharing, r16.

by Anonymousreply 17September 23, 2024 11:44 PM

[quote] These hunting groups typically included several species of reef fish, such as grouper and goatfish. The octopuses did not appear to lead the groups, but they did punch at fish to enforce social order

They're just like Dataloungers.

"Move it along, TOOTS!"

by Anonymousreply 18September 23, 2024 11:49 PM

No calamari for me.

by Anonymousreply 19September 23, 2024 11:51 PM

[quote] Team Octopus

Octopus team

by Anonymousreply 20September 23, 2024 11:57 PM

[quote]Our new one-piece lace foundation garment. Zips up the back and no bones!

by Anonymousreply 21September 24, 2024 12:14 AM

r10 Everybody knows I have a wet fishy OctoBussy

by Anonymousreply 22September 24, 2024 12:15 AM

Octopi are so smart.

We shouldn't eat them.

by Anonymousreply 23September 24, 2024 2:47 AM

Jonai

Octopi

by Anonymousreply 24September 24, 2024 3:05 AM

Octopuses won't put up with slackers.

by Anonymousreply 25September 24, 2024 3:14 AM

Delicious grilled with olive oil and lemon

by Anonymousreply 26September 24, 2024 3:27 AM

[quote] Delicious grilled with olive oil and lemon

Mmmmm..... DOLLFACE!

by Anonymousreply 27September 24, 2024 3:28 AM

I for one welcome our new octopi overlords.

by Anonymousreply 28September 24, 2024 3:38 AM

[quote] I for one welcome our new octopi overlords.

As does, r6. Pussies!

by Anonymousreply 29September 24, 2024 3:39 AM

Those giant clams with arms are always so clingy and big ol’ bitches.

by Anonymousreply 30September 24, 2024 3:44 AM

[quote]“We are very similar to these animals,” he added.

Yes. We slap.

Viciously.

by Anonymousreply 31September 24, 2024 3:44 AM

This thread makes me giggle. ❤️🤣

by Anonymousreply 32September 24, 2024 5:00 AM

O

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by Anonymousreply 33September 24, 2024 5:07 AM

NO R33! That was the worst of the worst of the James Bond themes. Bad 80s saxophone, I'd rather die than listen to it.

by Anonymousreply 34September 24, 2024 5:12 AM

r33 How on earth did they ever think that was acceptable?

by Anonymousreply 35September 24, 2024 5:24 AM

What the hell were they supposed to do with that title?

by Anonymousreply 36September 24, 2024 5:38 AM

Either you in the gang or you ain't.

by Anonymousreply 37September 24, 2024 5:41 AM

How’s Octomom doing, BTW?

by Anonymousreply 38September 24, 2024 5:58 AM

Punch and delete, bitch!

by Anonymousreply 39September 24, 2024 6:23 AM

Are the fish intelligent enough to know why they're being slapped though? That's the question.

by Anonymousreply 40September 24, 2024 7:20 AM

That's an interesting question, R40.

Fish are normally scared of other sea creatures and usually just scurry away.

But since they seem to be okay with the octopus touching them, I would probably liken the relationship to that of dogs and sheep.

Sheep travel in a group, and the dog herds them.

Perhaps the octopus are the dogs, and the fish are the sheep.

Interestingly, the smarter animal is the dominant one in each of those relationships.

by Anonymousreply 41September 24, 2024 7:31 AM

I reverently bow to our new cephalopod overlords.

by Anonymousreply 42September 24, 2024 7:41 AM

If octopus derived from Latin, then octopi would be the plural, but it's Greek, so octopodes. Octopuses is better, IMHO.

by Anonymousreply 43September 24, 2024 9:44 PM
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