Not again: Young Marine goes missing after leaving a bar alone in the wee hours

His belongings were found next to a restaurant that is on the beach. He’s in the water.

He bailed.

His belongings were in a back pack. Isn't it strange to go out to the bars carrying a backpack? The family believes he was spotted inside a business.

[QUOTE]Cameron says they believe Bailey was spotted at a business in the area wearing the same clothes he had worn when he disappeared.

[QUOTE]“We have a photo of him after he went missing, but there’s been no contact, there’s been no communication with buddies or family,” explained Cameron. “We don’t know if he’s under duress. We don’t know if he’s 100% or not.”

[QUOTE]That photo of Bailey Cameron inside a business has been circulating online with the family's permission. However, Cameron wants to reiterate that his son is still missing as he has not made contact with any family or friends.

Carlsbad is a fairly wealthy area so I don't think anything bad happened to him. I think I know that restaurant - it's above the cliff going down to the beach. There aren't any beach-level restaurants.

Went for a swim or suicide. I'm thinking the latter.

Suicide is not uncommon in the military. If he left his dog tag and his clothes in a pile - it was suicide.

Abducted by illegal alirns? Thank you for your service Bailey!!!

That's some serious gay face. Let's hope he's with some guy and is getting his hole blown out and lost track of time.

They need to check the basements of all Dataloungers in a 50-mile radius.

R7 - no basements in California - earthquake code.

That's not true, r8. Basements are fine as long as they're designed and built to withstand earthquake motion.

There are also grandfathered basements from before the new codes came into effect in the '70s. I have one in my 1949 house.

It's likely prohibitively expensive for most prople. Here's a recent thread about ultra-rich Southern Californians building "iceberg" mansions with expansive basements.

He's cute so I hope he's alive.

These young ones can’t handle their liquor.

He'll bob up in a few days

"His backpack, eyeglasses, and phone were found the next day on the curb outside of Vigilucci’s, an Italian restaurant located about a block away"

Abducted, perhaps, but likely...

So strange people are drinking themselves to death.

It is happening again.

He asks you to respect his privacy while he completes his transition.

He smells a lot of baked cookies. He is cute. I hope he is found safe and sound.

He looks Kenneth from 30 rock but cuter and more manly.

R8 Right there are no basements in Cali. I hope they find him. I hope it isn’t some new serial killer.

[quote] Carlsbad is a fairly wealthy area so I don't think anything bad happened to him.

Camp Pendleton, in Oceanside, near Carlsbad, is where the Marine base is. It's been a long time since I was in Oceanside, but it had some seedy areas. (Typical seedy stuff that crops up close to military bases.)

Is it strange that there's no information in the articles about how he got to Coyote Grill, whether he was seen with anyone during the evening, what his emotional state was, or if he was intoxicated? People saw him, the police and NCIS have likely questioned waitstaff and other possible witnesses. Why withhold info if this is a run-of-the-mill drunk guy story?

R21 Yea it’s not like that today., no seediness The base in San Diego is though. Carlsbad is a fairly big; it’s not all wealth. A lot of just regular middle class but there are concentrations of wealth still. People associate north San Diego county with wealth. I wonder if that’s why that person is saying that. It’s surrounded by super wealthy towns. But Carlsbad itself is not all wealth.

What kind of name is BAILEY?

Was Scott Peterson in the area?

He's hiding in Legoland.

[quote] He's hiding in Legoland.

I love him in The Two Towers!

Legoland visits many cities.

Maybe he went to shoot a video for Rob Navarro at Military Classified.

In the video of him leaving the bar, maybe he is carrying his backpack (the one his mother noted was found with some of his belongings) in front of him, but it's unclear. (In OPś link, the still b/w photo that follows the video of him leaving the bar shows him, again viewed from behind, with his arms in the exact same position -- timestamps show the two photos having been made inside the bar seconds apart.)

It doesn't seem a good sign that he would carry the backpack with some care only for it to have been found one-block away the next day. That he didn't put it on his back and that the two video grabs from the bar are from seconds apart makes me wonder if he was there just briefly looking for someone -- and may have been carrying it in front of him having had to show it to security on entering the bar. If the bar is well covered with security cameras, it may be odd that the two images of show him moving about and were photographed from behind -- no images of him at a bar ordering a drink, for example.

Outside a restaurant you say? Was there a soft butch sous chef working that night?

The discussion of CA building codes & basements is sure to be a comfort to any friends or family members reading this thread. Can people weigh in on easements next?

He's very cute. It does sound like skulduggery.

[quote] again viewed from behind

Did he have a nice ass?

R32 “ The discussion of CA building codes & basements is sure to be a comfort to any friends or family members reading this thread”

Yes, I’m sure those looking for him are coming to DL and refreshing the page to see of anyone here has found him.

I only glanced through this thread and then disappointed that this discussion of basements didn't include ms. streisands.

Bailey, won't you please come home!

It was his sunglasses he left behind, not his glasses. Notable difference.

Hope they find him alive but we all know that's doubtful.

That face at OP is smelling an entire bakery of cookies......

He’s fine, he sends his love.

R38 - love you! Classic DL

It’s been over a week

He's obviously sucking dicks at the nude beach, San Onofre!

Unfortunately, it's unlikely to be something interesting like a gay serial killer. Just a dude that got unlucky and drowned.

New pictures of Bailey from basic training graduation. He does wear glasses.

Forgot link.

I think we all know he's dead.

He'd barely be average looking even in the best light.

Strange his stuff found on a curb. He looks like a nice fellow.

Semper Bi

His parents actually named him "Bailey Cameron?!" Put them in front of a firing squad.

Basements, r7? Your typical Datalounger inherited dear mother’s home in the mid to late 90s.

Going AWOL would have been healthier.

R4 it’s in the middle of carlsbad village and is one or two blocks away from the shore. There’s no cliff. It’s in a giant plaza of restaurants and shops. You’d have to walk across PCH to get to the ocean. That bar is right next to train tracks.

Mental health crisis with impending departure from the Marines on Sept 9?

Reported sightings of him on base three times since leaving Coyote Grill on August 25 including:

[QUOTE]Surveillance video and pictures put Cameron at an ATM across from his barracks on base on August 28.

What? I'm having a hard time following the article. Parents' wishful thinking? Something nefarious?.

[quote] I think I know that restaurant - it's above the cliff going down to the beach. There aren't any beach-level restaurants. Went for a swim or suicide. I'm thinking the latter.

Neither. This one's too easy...

If the restaurant he was at is above the cliff, then Mr. Bailey was taking 'selfies' atop the cliff before he missed his backward step and fell to his death. Not suicide - death by selfie. I'm calling it now.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

He definitely looks better without his glasses.

Can we believe the guy pictured at r59's preview is actually Bailey? The security camera shot makes him look a lot stouter.

This is so bizarre. WTF?

Since his disappearance, there have been unconfirmed sightings of him around the base. According to Cameron's family, a Marine saw him on Saturday, August 31, at approximately 11:30 p.m. as he was running toward the ocean in apparent distress, as reported by Fox 5/KUSI.

"The gentleman we talked to said Bailey looked so afraid, so distressed. I just need to know that he's OK," Cameron's mother, Juliette England, told the local news media. "We just want to get him across the finish line," his family said.

Since the Marine was reported missing to Carlsbad Police on August 25, Fox 5/KUSI reported that surveillance footage has emerged showing Cameron on base at an ATM on Wednesday, August 28—three days before the other Marine told his family that he saw the 23-year-old.

"There are confirmed sightings on Camp Pendleton near Bailey's barracks. I personally spoke to his fellow Marine who encountered him this past Saturday night around 11 p.m.," Sharie Finn, founder of nonprofit organization The RAD Movement—which helps families searching for missing relatives—told Newsweek.

"He was very clear that Bailey was in distress. Bailey specifically told his fellow Marine that he has been on base the entire time since returning from the Coyote Bar and Grill last Saturday 8/25. He did attempt to help Bailey before Bailey fled to a location on base. It was reported that they searched for two hours with dogs and thermals and they were unable to locate Bailey," she added.

Buck never would've gone to a shitty Carlsbad bar and then gone missing!

"Isn't it strange to go out to the bars carrying a backpack?"

Whatever do you MEAN?

A bit too clean-cut and twinky for Momma. I think she can be ruled out here.

No longer considered missing by the Marines.

SAN DIEGO (FOX 5/KUSI) — Marine Corps Base Camp Pendleton on Wednesday announced it is no longer considering Lance Corporal Bailey Cameron as a missing person.

The 23-year-old, who is scheduled to exit the Marine Corps on Sept. 9., was reported missing on Aug. 25, a day after video shows him leaving Coyote Bar and Grill in Carlsbad the night before without his backpack, sunglasses and phone. Since his disappearance, there have been unconfirmed sightings of him around the base.

Capt James C. Sartain, with Camp Pendleton, released a statement Wednesday saying that “recent activities connected to Lance Corporal Bailey Cameron indicate he has been on the installation.”

“Therefore, he is no longer considered a missing person, but base officials continue attempts to locate and contact Lance Corporal Bailey Cameron and are actively working with his parents to encourage him to return to his unit in accordance with his official service obligations,” Sartain said.

Not considered missing but they still haven't found him.

Yeah, they really seem to have their shit together.

R66 Within law enforcement, "missing person" has a specific definition, the primary example being you can't file a missing person's report until someone's not been seen for so many hours. Since there have now been confirmed reports that he's been seen, he's not missing. At this point, it sounds more like he doesn't want to be found. That's not missing. This will probably lead them to shifting, changing, and/or reallocating which resources they've been using to try to find him, but as the article says it doesn't mean they've stopped looking altogether or trying to get him to make contact.

How did he get back on base? I assume he had to use an ID. The description of his items left behind doesn't mention a missing ID. Wouldn't the Marines have known he came back on base then? This is very strange. A mental health crisis sounds likely if he's trying to hoof around unnoticed on base.

r67 "confirmed reports that he's been seen" - Incorrect.

The article/post to which you replied still says his sightings are unconfirmed.

Not to mention there is a little thing called desertion.

The military takes this seriously, even though he only had about 10 days to go.

They don't just let that go.

After all, [italic] someone’s [/italic] got to clean up all this gym equipment.

Phew !

He's fine! He sends his love!

R65 That is very odd.

Makes me think there's some weird fuckery going on behind the scenes that they're not sharing with the public.

He's NOT missing. We just don't know where he is.

You know, like what happens all the time with your car keys.

R57 there is no fucking cliff. i literally live right where this is. it's on flat ground in a big bougie shopping center on the back corner directly next to the train tracks. to get to the ocean you have to cross the highway 101. there's no cliff anywhere within walking distance of this location. i could be mistaken but i don't think you'd see a cliff over the ocean until you walked as far south as solana beach which would be ludicrous in this case.

R75 and it's exactly two blocks from the shore, very close. this plaza is where you'd park before you walked to the beach.

Men never go missing, they die.

r75 "i literally live right where this is"

Oh, dear. You "literally" live there, huh? Literally

AWOL

You'll find the body in a shallow grave down by the railroad tracks.

He's probably camping out somewhere in Camp Pendleton (it's a really big place) although I'm not sure how he would have gotten back onto the base without being discovered. But yes, AWOL, not dead.

These are new details. AWOL with only two weeks left in his enlistment? Why would he go AWOL on his own military base?

[QUOTE]A Marine stationed at Camp Pendleton who was reported missing in August was seen on base and therefore "no longer considered a missing person," base officials said Wednesday.

[QUOTE]Investigators attempted to contact Lance Corporal Bailey Cameron after he was seen at Camp Pendleton but avoided them, according to the Carlsbad Police Department who was involved in the investigation

I don't know what you guys are talking about - but there are absolutely cliffs at Carlsbad beaches.

Yes, there are stairs that go down to the beach level - but there aren't beach level restaurants.

Was “Beach” one of his Likes on Facebook?

[r67], what are you talking about? There are almost always alleged spottings of missing persons in missing person cases and the missing person is still considered missing until found.

This marine should still be considered missing until he’s located and considered safe and reunited with his family.

R83 this particular bar isn't near the cliffs, it's at a crosswalk directly across from the shore at the major intersection in carlsbad village and the 101. there's no way to get to the shore from that bar without walking past a million cctv cameras. to get to any cliff more significant than one flight of stairs like the shore entrance by tamarack and 101 would be quite a walk.

R86 if he fell down the cliff into the water i think he would have had to walk north or south along the train tracks until he got away from the density of the village. i'm pretty sure you can walk directly onto the sand from parts of ocean blvd but i could be wrong because i hate the beach and rarely go. most of the spots require going down a small flight of stairs, but they're not steep. it's like one story down to sand. to drop from a cliff directly into the ocean or fall far enough to be killed would require walking a good long way away from the bar. the only way i could think of that happening is if he walked north on the tracks and somehow got out around the roundabout between carlsbad and oceanside on the 101.

I mean.....aliens

He must be part Sasquatch. Unconfirmed sightings and grainy photos.

They get drunk and walk to a body of water to take a piss and fall in. This isn’t rocket science. We have a video of a guy walking into polls from a bar a month or so ago. He was later found dead in the river.

[quote] walking into polls

This is the thread for you:

"AWOL with only two weeks left in his enlistment?"

He doesn't want to leave the service. He'll miss the excitement, the camaraderie, the feelings of specialness, the freedom, travel, etc. He's apprehensive about his future: it's either law enforcement or menial jobs that require only a h.s. diploma. Tied-down with wifey and babies.

Are you saying the Marines didn't give him the skills to succeed in life, r92?

Bailey gets out today! I hope he walks out free!

Deserter apprehended.

Gilligan!

He looks, um... special.