Russian technocrat Pavel Durov, founder of Telegram, arrested in France

Anyway.

Sucks.

Do you like my hair like this?

Probably seeking child support for his 100 children. Strange man. Any size meat verificatia?

I only encounter spam where robot whores are trying to get my “telegram”. Fuck this guy

[quote] Probably seeking child support for his 100 children. Strange man. Any size meat verificatia?

Aren't they all strange? Elon, Jack Dorsey, Zuckerberg, Peter Thiel...

It's deluded people like this that believe in their own skewed view of self-importance.

not guilty!

arrested for being too handsome for France

Not only does the russian military use Telegram mainly for Comm, but the far right in the US uses it to spread QAnon bullshit.

Is...potato.

He’s very hot, though

I've had better.

WHORE!

The US likely pushed France into this, because Telegram wouldn't bend the knee and give the US internal access to user data in the same kind of arrangements that it has with WhatsApp, Facebook and most other major social media platforms.

Former State Dept official Mike Benz talks about it here

[quote]Probably seeking child support for his 100 children. Strange man. Any size meat verificatia? [quote]He’s very hot, though

Well we do know he likes to fuck, but you'd never stand a chance because he's too busy on a quest to slam pussy after pussy after pussy. Not much different than a guy who fucks half the women in town, except with lots of money.

This reminded me of a similar arrest.

David Sacks predicted this back in April.

X is definitely in the crosshairs

Telegram is full of tina dealers and pedos

Ian Miles Cheong? David Sacks? My heart is breaking for all the far right scumbags who'll lose the toxic sewers in which they tend to congregate. Go cry into your waifu pillow.

This is about state control and subversion of social media platforms, as Mike Benz points out in the video above. If you want to support that, r19, you're the scumbag.

This is the kind of stuff it's about

Telegram is a must for QAnon Boomers in the US. That says it all, really.

Social media platforms need to be regulated and moderated, unless you want Russian bots to freely fuel the overthrow of your country's rule of law. Free speech needs to have its limits, or you'll be slowly enslaved by countries where freedom of speech isn't even a thing.

Just like Elon Musk protects the free speech of X's users in Turkey and Saudi Arabia (I'm sure I'm missing a few other authoritarian regimes here)

I'm not impressed by that Mike Benz clip. He talks about uprisings against Lukashenko in Belarus, and Putin in Russia as though no citizen of either country would ever be interested in rising up against their leaders, paragons of virtue that they are without provocation from the US govt. Say what?

Mike Benz is a paid conservative talking head. I wouldn't take what he says on its face value.

He appears to have had at least one cosmetic procedure in common with Elon.

Even with the balding head, he was marginally better looking before the he-man surgery.

[quote] Telegram is a must for QAnon Boomers in the US. That says it all, really.

No, it’s not, you moron.

Anyone who thinks this is a good thing is both a frau and a moron. It’s more government intrusion. This is the shit Trump co wants to do. Fraus love shrieking, “Won’t somebody think of the children?!” while civil liberties continue to be eroded. Too many don’t see the big picture or where this is headed. Book bans, porn bans, drag bans, etc, all because of the poor children! They used terrorism to pass The Patriot Act. Quit falling for this bs already.

How does he get away with using the name Telegram?

R29 you are a fucking idiot. You have no idea how sick it gets in Telegram. I will think of the children, because they are getting abused on Telegram in ways you can’t even imagine.

Thank God we have someone like r31 who vividly imagined all the ways in which children are abused on Telegram. Where would be without this morbid vouyer I mean concerned citizen and hero.

R17, David Sacks is a sack of garbage. Huge Elon /Trump stan.

R20 need a safe space for pedos, right?

Caught in one of US colonies

R20 is probably that micro-penised person, Andrew Tate.

Lot’s of Russian panic over this.

Delicious!

And

And

Good News!

From his Wiki:

[quote]On 16 April 2014, Durov publicly refused to hand over the personal data of Ukrainian protesters to Russia's security agencies and to block Alexei Navalny's page on VK.[24] Instead, he posted the relevant orders on his own VK page,[25][26] saying that the requests were unlawful.

[quote]On 21 April 2014, Durov was dismissed as CEO of VK. The company said it was acting on his letter of resignation a month earlier that he failed to recall.[24][27] Durov then said the company had been effectively taken over by Vladimir Putin's allies,[27][28] suggesting his ouster was the result of both his refusal to hand over personal details of users to federal law enforcement and his refusal to hand over the personal details of people who were members of a VK group dedicated to the Euromaidan protest movement.[27][28] Durov then left Russia and stated that he had "no plans to go back"[28] and that "the country is incompatible with internet business at the moment".[24]

Now all the Russian shills are mad at France for enforcing their laws?

Just a few days ago, he was in Azerbaijan at the same time as Putin. I wonder why. I wouldn't be surprised if he had become compromised at some point. Maybe he went back to France thinking he'd be safer in prison there than anywhere in a building with windows in Russia.

There are reports he asked to meet Putin in Azerbaijan and was refused.

Some reason to believe that Putin had turned against him and he fled to France.

I don't use the application or website. I am reading recordings of the abuse of minors is permitted over there.

So basically, governments are reminding billionaire oligarchs that while they might almost have absolute power over our political institutions, they're still not exempt from following the dictates of sinister intelligence agencies. Of course, a bogus charge has been made just because he refused to share customer data with the US government, when everybody knows that child abuse and trafficking are rampant in the likes of Facebook and IG - the only difference is, of course, that Zuckerberg, Bryn, Page and their coevals, allow US intelligence o do whatever they want in exchange for becoming our digital overlords.

Mr. Durov would do well to avoid any window above the second floor of a building.

Does this have anything to do with Blake Lively?

His IG is nothing but thirst trap pictures. Are we sure he’s not gay? Those 100 kids are all from sperm donations.

Anyway he seems like a creepy egomaniac and it’s ok with me if he gets arrested since he’s clearly enabling the far right. I’m sure he’ll start in with the martyr act now.

I’ll take a sperm donation any day if the week

[quote] You have no idea how sick it gets in Telegram.

Hysterical Karen right on cue.

[QUOTE]Durov's arrest might be similar in impact to the British breaking the Enigma code during WW2: Telegram is the only messenger of the Russian army.

This is mind-boggling.

Arresting him doesn’t necessarily give anyone the ability to unencrypt messages. It SHOULD be impossible. Unless he built some kind of secret back door. He wouldn’t do that, would he?

He's singing like a canary to the French authorities.

It seems to me like he went back to France thinking he'd be safer in prison there than anywhere else. Why didn't he go to Dubai or literally anywhere else if he knew there was an arrest warrant? But we still don't know what he's being formally charged with.

Heather Cox Richardson today pointed out a Trump connection:

[quote]Donald Trump Jr. and Eric Trump have been teasing a “big announcement” this month related to cryptocurrency and decentralized finance, or DeFi. On Thursday, Trump announced a new cryptocurrency project called “The DeFiant Ones” and linked to a Telegram channel set up on August 6, the same day Eric posted that such a project was in the works. Telegram is a social media app launched by Russian-born billionaire Pavel Durov, and it is the main communications tool in Russia. Durov was arrested today in France on charges that Telegram has been used for money laundering and other crimes.

Those Trumps love their cons and so does Russia!

R31 is the Frauiest Frau that ever Fraued.

Working with the French and cutting a deal with them is definitely in his interests. Trying not to be killed in Prison or not falling out of window first is another story.

Sounds like Pootz was putting the squeeze on him for something so he fled to France.

Hmmm.

The implications are interesting and maybe this will mitigate some of the damage the orange traitor did selling out our spies to this shitstain.

He is straight because he was dating a YouTuber in France. That is what I read somewhere online.

Always worth reading what Kasparov has to say.

"This is war, and attempts to protect a genocidal invasion behind "free speech" is a disgrace to the term. There will be due process, unlike in Russia. That so many pro-Kremlin forces instantly rallied against his arrest is also telling. 2/3"

Here is the latest update.

[quote] PARIS, Aug 26 (Reuters) - Pavel Durov, the Russian-born founder of messaging app Telegram, was arrested in France as part of an investigation into crimes related to child pornography, drug trafficking and fraudulent transactions on the platform, French prosecutors said on Monday.

[quote]French President Emmanuel Macron, making the first official confirmation of Durov's arrest since he was detained at Le Bourget airport outside Paris on Saturday evening, said there was no political motive in the arrest, despite many false comments online. He added that France remains deeply committed to lawful free speech. "The arrest of the Telegram president on French territory took place as part of an ongoing judicial investigation," Macron wrote on X. "This is in no way a political decision. It is up to the judges to decide."

[quote]In a subsequent statement, Paris prosecutor Laure Beccuau said Durov was arrested as part of a probe into an unnamed person launched by the office's cybercrime unit on July 8. The investigation is over suspected complicity in various crimes including running an online platform that allows illicit transactions, child pornography, drug trafficking and fraud, as well as the refusal to communicate information to authorities, money laundering and providing cryptographic services to criminals, the statement said.

Putin had seized control of his first company. He fled Russia to set up Telegram outside of Russia. In 2020, Putin lifts the ban on Telegram in Russia and the Russian government becomes a heavy user. But so do critics of the war, independent reporters on the war, the Ukrainians, and challengers to Putin like Pirgozhin who broadcast his rebellion on Telegram.

It’s not difficult to imagine that Putin reconsiders the 2020 deal and insists on a “renegotiation.” Whatever Putin wants is unacceptable to Durov and he tries to meet with Putin but is rebuffed then immediately flies into the custody of the French government.

God, he's hot.

I find him GUILTY of being a dreamboat!

DAYum. Didn't know there were smoking hot oligarchs, but I guess Elmo Muskrat was the only one I'd seen shirtless before.

Really interesting that he thought himself "untouchable" and flew into Western Europe. This alone means he is an idiot.

It isn't just the US. France, Poland, Germany and the UK will put the screws to anyone who can influence Putin in anyway. Yeah, the US/CIA aren't angels, but if you think the intelligence services of other countries are angels, you are kidding yourselves.

His arrest is probably at least somewhat politically motivated, and that doesn't matter one bit. France can, and will, drag this out for years (or until Putin is out of power) to make their point about Ukraine.

Pick your friends carefully (looking at you Musk).

France has plenty of causes to arrest that have nothing to do with freedom of speech.

I read somewhere that he's a French citizen. How did that come about?

He’s a billionaire.

Wikipedia:

Durov was naturalized as a French citizen in August 2021, giving him European Union citizenship.[4] Le Monde described the naturalisation as "mysterious", since Durov had not resided in France apart from brief visits. Le Monde suggested that Durov was naturalised via the rarely used "merit foreigner" procedure that is awarded directly by the French government to people viewed to have contributed exceptionally to France's international influence or international economic relations. Durov officially changed the French version of his name to Paul du Rove.[1] In April 2021, he received United Arab Emirates citizenship.[3]

[quote] Le Monde suggested that Durov was naturalised via the rarely used "merit foreigner" procedure that is awarded directly by the French government to people viewed to have contributed exceptionally to France's international influence or international economic relations.

He contributed exceptionally, indeed: created a social app version of the Dark Web, with child abuse content, drug and arms trade, neonazi content... I mean, the French Republic must be so proud!

It's funny to see the Russian shills criticize France for this when you can get years in prison in Russia for merely liking a meme that "discredits the Russian army," or reposting anything from a "foreign agent" (which is pretty much anyone who isn't pro-war).

Russia is hellish

[quote]God, he's hot

Nice body, but he loses hotness points for being a douchebag and instaHo.

Wonder if he’s a covert French agent?

I don’t like him because he thinks he’s a god damn super hero. Look at his Instagram! Posing on a rock with a billowing type cape. JFC

I don't want to marry him, or hang out with him.

I just want to fuck him once. Is that so wrong?

He's Russian with French and United Arab Emirates citizenship(s?). Does each country/state allow for so many passports? It seems like it was a big deal in Australia to allow dual citizenship. Is this guy still a Russian citizen?

I'm sure he and Putin did meet. They were in the country at the same time. Telegram has all the info on the Russian military. Where all their plans are kept. Tick tock mfs

He actually has 4 passports. He has another one for St Kitts and Nevis acquired through investment.

I recall reading that he gave up his Russian citizenship at 14. It was a family thing, I asssume.

No one can “give up” Russian citizenship.

In Russia, citizenship gives up on you!

[quote] I recall reading that he gave up his Russian citizenship at 14. It was a family thing, I asssume.

No, he's always been a citizen. He left Russia in 2014, aged 29, after selling his stake in VKontakte. And he claimed publicly that he hadn't returned to Russia since then. But now there are receipts showing that he actually did visit Russia at least 50 times(!) since then. Now why would he have done that, and lied about it, unless he had some special relationship with the Russian government? Pavel, you've got some 'splaining to do!

"God, he's hot."

You can smell the Russian stank sleeve all the way thru the internets.

He gave the interview to Fucker a few months ago, which is very rare, cause normally he gives less interviews than Kamala.

He seems very articulate and intelligent, unlike the roided image on the picture.

This is one of the most intriguing stories of the year. And this has been one hell of a year.

A professor of strategic studies at Scotland's University of St. Andrews posits that Durov wanted to be arrested as protection from Russia.

That’s what I’m thinking, r89.

It’s the only thing that makes any sense.

Hope they keep him locked up tighter than fat Donnie’s girdle.

It's as plain as day that he wanted to be taken into French custody. It was that or polonium tea (or an open hotel window).

Telegram CEO Pavel Durov Freed from Custody

All the articles about this show pictures from years ago that make him look like a boring nerd. Can't they run one of the photos from his IG feed where he looks totally hot?

I hope he has the sense to stay away from open windows.

[quote] Freed from Custody

Yay! Think I'll visit the Eiffel Tower.

R89 and others: so he arranged his own arrest?

He might now be under the protection of the French government. Or not. 🤷🏻‍♂️

They took him to the courthouse to be formally charged... I don't know what they will do with him then. With 4 passports, he's definitely a flight risk.

As the child of an (anonymous) sperm donor, I'm glad I'm not his offspring. Talk about embarrassing.

You guys do realize that he created Telegram to circumvent the Russian government, right? I'm trying to figure out the hate in this thread. Also, Telegram isn't just used by Q-Anon and pedos. A lot of people in authoritarian countries use it to communicate over encrypted lines. The Russian government tried to ban the app at one point. The guy is an enemy of Russia and seen as a traitor.

I doubt he wants to meet any of his kids either. People like him don't care about raising children, all they care about is spreading their ("superior") genes.

Seems like Russia is more democratic than the west.

Sperm donor? Unmarried? Is the gf a beard? Any rumors of the homosex?

He's also accused of physically abusing one of his kids.

[quote] Pavel Durov, the billionaire CEO and founder of messaging app Telegram who was arrested in France on Saturday, is also a suspect in a criminal case in Switzerland, Forbes has learned. The case was filed by his former partner Irina Bolgar, who claims to have three children with Durov. The criminal complaint in Geneva, filed in March 2023, alleges that Durov was physically violent towards one of his three children. Bolgar filed a civil child custody case shortly after; both cases were submitted a few months after Bolgar alleges Durov stopped paying her 150,000 euros ($167,500) per month in child support, court filings say.

[quote]The Geneva Public Prosecutor’s Office initially refused to enter the criminal complaint against Durov when it received it because it had been filed more than three months after the most recent instance of alleged physical violence. In May 2023, Bolgar appealed, and the court allowed the case to move forward last October. The case—which is ongoing, according to a Geneva court official—alleges that Durov harmed his youngest son, born in September 2017, five times between 2021 and 2022. The incidents allegedly resulted in injuries including a concussion and sleep disorders; transcripts of messages purportedly exchanged by Bolgar and Durov in November 2021 in Paris were entered as evidence, as was a medical certificate from April 2023 attesting that the child continued to suffer from anxiety and had trouble sleeping due to the violence.

[quote]A representative for Durov declined to comment. A lawyer for Bolgar confirmed that Bolgar and her three children are involved in the civil case but declined to comment on the criminal complaint. Because of Swiss laws, Durov, Bolgar and their children are not named in the criminal case, but there are several identifying details that confirm Durov’s identity including his children’s birth years, the case number of the civil child custody case, Durov’s residence in the United Arab Emirates and a reference to his net worth. Durov did not contest the child custody case, which was decided in Bolgar’s favor in May 2023 and reaffirmed in February 2024, according to Bolgar’s lawyer. It’s unclear if he has hired an attorney in the criminal complaint. Bolgar’s lawyer told Forbes she also filed a civil child support case against Durov in June 2024, which remains ongoing.

[QUOTE]Seems like Russia is more democratic than the west.

I hope your meth and/or fent package is on time and that your overseer(s) didn't use DeJoy's USPS to delay delivery. For your own sake, that is. But delivering a deathly dose would be a way for them to "tie up loose strings" IYKWIM.

[quote] Seems like Russia is more democratic than the west.

So, you're a comedian??

R100–You’re out of date. He made some kind of deal with Putin and Telegram was allowed back in Russia in 2020. Indeed, it is widely used by Russian government agencies including the military and national security agencies.

J’ACCUSE!!!

^ He looks like a pubeless boy!

r104 What a scumfuck Dorev is. Too bad he wasn't on that yacht.

[quote]it is widely used by Russian government agencies including the military and national security agencies.

r107 Proof?

[QUOTE][R107] Proof?

Good fucking God! How stupid are you not to believe Russia itself over its repeated admissions? Do you have a few dozen JD Vance personally fertilized zygotes in a deep freeze?

[QUOTE]You guys do realize that he created Telegram to circumvent the Russian government, right

We have 15 y.o. twats posting here with an ignorance only unparalleled by their zeal.

[quote] Seems like Russia is more democratic than the west.

Yes and Putin is building a place for people just like you, so you can enjoy their democracy.

This conversation between Tucker and Mike Benz (of the video I previously posted at r14) was just posted and it's engrossing - it goes into the recent Telegram events but much more, giving it a lot of historical context . It's long, about 2 hours.

Im sure we all champing at the bit to watch a two-hour conversation between Russian shill Tucker Carlson and white nationalist Mike Benz.

Engrossing, r115? Seriously, do you not know how to use better language and terminology as subtley, if you're trying to win "minds and hearts?" This is a website with a far superior intellect than the average GOP Facebook denizen you seek to exploit. We are above average educated and know scams, so scram.

Macedonia?

[quote] How stupid are you not to believe Russia itself over its repeated admissions?

r112 Calm the hell down and post the proof that you're talking about, please.

[quote] Far-right activists, violent white supremacists and neo-fascists who have built large followings on Telegram are jumping to the defense of the app’s founder, Pavel Durov. Long before Durov was charged Wednesday with enabling criminality on the app, Telegram became notable as an essential gathering spot for people and groups who had been booted off mainstream social media platforms.

[quote]Telegram’s enthusiastic users include a spectrum of right-wing political figures, from conservative pundits and allies of former President Donald Trump to violent extremist groups that have staged white supremacist events. By contrast, it’s rare to find high-profile Democrats or progressives on it.

But you will find Large Marge there...

[quote] And Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, R-Ga, who has faced suspensions on platforms including Facebook and what was then known as Twitter, wrote on X: “Free speech is under attack all over the world. Why are people’s opinions and voices such a threat?” Greene maintains two active and verified channels on Telegram, which together have over 98,000 followers.

Here’s your “proof,” Boris

[quote] One group particularly concerned with Durov’s arrest is the Russian military, along with a cohort of pro-war bloggers and reporters who have gained prominence by covering the conflict on Telegram.

Since the start of Russia’s full-scale invasion in February 2022, Telegram has served both as a communication tool within the Russian army and as a platform for the Kremlin to convey its narrative of the war to ordinary Russians. “They practically detained the head of communications for the Russian army,” lamented the popular Russian military blogger channel, Povernutie na Z Voine, in a Telegram post.

More

More, you lazy fuck

r120 And right under that:

[quote]Ordinary Ukrainians and the country’s military also use Telegram to raise funds for the army and blog about the war. However, for internal communications, the army is known to primarily rely on the Signal platform.

From the very top of the article:

[quote]It is extremely rare for Ilya Yashin, [bold]a fierce critic of Vladimir Putin who was recently released from prison,[/bold] and Margarita Simonyan, a rabid Kremlin propagandist, to find common ground.

[quote]“I do not consider Pavel Durov to be a criminal and I hope he will be able to prove his innocence in court,” Yashin wrote on X on Monday.

[quote]Despite growing rumours that Durov may have fallen under the Kremlin’s influence, [bold]Telegram has remained the primary channel for dissent in Russia,[/bold] especially after the outbreak of the war, as Putin cracked down on independent media outlets and banned western social media platforms.

[quote]Many in the Russian opposition therefore quickly expressed concerns that Durov’s cooperation with French authorities could prompt Moscow to shut down the platform domestically or open the door to similar demands to gain access to Telegram from the Russian government.

[quote]For the Kremlin, which has repeatedly clashed with Durov and unsuccessfully tried to ban Telegram, the arrest presented a surprising propaganda coup.

It's like you read what you wanted to read and ignored everything else. The app isn't state-controlled by Russia, which is what they want to do and why Putin tried to have the app banned. Ukrainians would stay far from it if it were controlled by the Russian government. If anyone is pushing "Russian propaganda," about this situation, it's actually you.

More information

[quote]War unfiltered: how Telegram straddles the Ukraine frontline

[quote]From combat orders to air-raid alerts, app is now vital for both Russian and Ukrainian troops and civilians

[quote]In Ukraine, Telegram’s popularity has soared since the full-scale war with Russia began in 2022. Only 20 per cent of Ukrainians sourced their news on Telegram in 2021. By November 2023 the number had risen to more than 70 per cent, according to a survey by USAID/Internews.

[quote]“Telegram plays an important informational role in the war,” said Roman Pohorilyi, a co-founder of the Ukrainian Deep State analytical group whose 783,000 subscribers rely on its updates on the battlefield and on territorial shifts along the 1,000km frontline.

[quote]Telegram is often the first place where Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelenskyy shares his daily video addresses, news of prisoner exchanges and government shake-ups with his more than 735,000 subscribers.

It's like you're stupid or something.

You asked for proof that the Russian government uses Telegram. Now you’re just trying to blow smoke up everyone’s asses.

What kind of smoke? Will it get really far up there?

Burnt potato, I imagine

Irina is pissed that Pavel isn't paying her 150K a MONTH child support. Raising Burberry clad tots in Geneve and Dubai coute cher!

[quote]You asked for proof that the Russian government uses Telegram.

r125 Proof wasn't provided that the Russian government uses it. Proof was only provided that the Russian military uses it to communicate. Proof was also provided that the Russian government has been trying to gain access, unsuccessfully, to its data and that the app may be banned by the Russian government because they don't have control of it.

So, thanks, I guess?

Is the military not part of the government in Russia?

[quote]This is a website with [bold]a far superior intellect[/bold] than the average GOP Facebook denizen you seek to exploit.

This is satire. Surely.

r130 Not enough in a way that can influence the app and its data or functionality, which is what was being implied by the statement that it's used by "the Russian government."

If it was being controlled by the Russian government, Ukrainians wouldn't use it as a secure communication line while being invaded by Russia. Make sense, please.

Again. Make it make sense.

[quote]Here in Ukraine when it comes to breaking news, [bold]Telegram reigns supreme.[/bold] Kyiv Post has compiled this handy guide for those not familiar with the platform.

I hope they’re still letting him work out.

R120 etc, might as well quoted Pravda

Wow! One vatnik troll has been very prolific.

Hot creep Pavel Durov is back in Dubai because France relaxed his bail conditions.