Calling All Americans who are Sick of "Globalist, Neoliberal, Non-traditonal" Lifestyle: Come to Russia!

Gee, whatever could the tyrant want with a bunch of bitter Americans who immediately become financially dependent on him?

I agree with Putin. Hurry up and leave!

Bye, Alex

Move to Russia and let them seize your assets!

If that's what you're seeking, Hungary would be a better alternative.

I will gladly help all MAGAts pack their bags.

Will dictator ass-licker Glenn Greenwald take him up on the offer or is he still hanging out in Brazil hoping for the resurgence of gay-hating Bolsinaro?

OMG, it's Christmas in August. If Trump goes then his followers will go. I'm down with that.

This is like the rapture. The stupids will move to Russia and let us be.

Win/Win

Can we pick those we want to send?

All of this 👇

He just needs more people to force them Into his army once they arrive. He’s running out of bodies to fill those uniforms.

Peter Thiel has found his new home!

Win/win r13.

I love how Arend then backtracked and clarified their commitment to Russia.

Can you IMAGINE the heaven that would be maga moving to Russia or Hungary or Venezuela? We’d have decades of tragic stories, begging to come back. The tears would cause another Noah’s Ark type flood.

We’d all chip in to watch them fly away.

LOL - so he'll take their money or imprison them under false pretenses for hostage negotiations or send them to the front line.

You first Alex Jones!

Ending up.as cannon fodder is a fate too good for these assholes.

I’d kick in on a crowdfund to charter some old rattletrap Soviet era aircraft to transport them.

Will anyone bite?

When nobody wants to immigrate to your country, that's a sign that shit is fucked up.

Russian's population demographics are really hurting - they've lost several hundred thousand men in the war, plus over a million have escaped the country to not be conscripted.

R21 - I hope they bite after the November election. First, have Trump move there - then seriously these stupid chuckleheads will follow. It will be glorious.

The comments under Alex's announcement seem very convincing to some MAGA patriots.

We only need Elon to chime in with an "Interesting." subtweet and they will start packing their bags.

This would be an epic tragedy if they went through with it if it weren’t a bunch of knuckle dragging cunts.

Renounce your US citizenship first!

Because Russia always has had so much to offer to the free, the intelligent, and the creative.

Just trolling, like the cunts here.

How dumb do you have to be to not realize this is just for propaganda purposes? Sure, a handful of people will move, and they'll experience the "joy" of actually living (not just visiting the places worth visiting) in Russia. IOW, they'll regret it immediately. But Putin knows not many will move. This is just an anti-western stunt done for PR.

But of course the Putin-lovers in the US don't see it 'cause they dont 'have an effin' clue about Russia.

I bet the mail order bride business is booming.

It's a cookbook.

I volunteer to drive them to the airport.

We round ‘em up and Putin locks ‘em up.

Peter Thiel, I heard you were looking to leave the US. Come live with us in glorious Russia.

R17 You're actually lumping EU member Hungary together with Russia and Venezuela?

Hungary under it's new leader is becoming a very religious / reactionary place -- Christo-Fascist-Weirdo Rod Dreher moved there awhile back because America has just become too damn gay.

r32 clearly skips the international news section

Can you imagine how many meals Russian cannibals could make out of Alex Jones?

How many Swanson frozen dinnersworth is he? 45?

Oh dear R32. And it's not because of your spelling - it's because of your complete cluelessness.

November 6th, Trump loads into his jet, makes a beeline for Cuba and his jet is shot down.

November 7th, John Barron moves into his Russian Dacha.

R4, unfortunately that was a temporary setback. They are still there and building a big house in the countryside.

R45, at 8oz of meat per person, he’d make at least 600!

Jim Jones told his followers they would escape their enemies by moving to Russia.

Then he decided to just murder everybody instead.

[Me desperately trying to share Alex Jones' twitter to facebook, where my senile, conservative relatives are sure to see it.]

Create a gmail account and email it straight to them R41!

Russia is a dying country, especially its male population

“Tired of runaway inflation in Marxist USA? Come to Mother Russia, where we have a lower per capita income than India! You won’t notice inflation because you won’t have enough money to buy anything!”

Can't wait until Alex Jones and his asshole fanbase leave!

[quote][R32] clearly skips the international news section

[quote]Oh dear [R32]. And it's not because of your spelling - it's because of your complete cluelessness.

You've never been to Hungary. And I doubt you even own a passport.

The country is gorgeous, peaceful and with a high standard of living. Comparing a member of the European Union to Russia and Venezuela only shows your ignorance.

R46, I'll just leave this here:

I know I'm an ignorant redneck but what is going on in Hungary that makes it comparable to Russia?

And, R48, I'll just leave this here:

Also, Anne Applebaum has done an excellent job writing about the rise of authoritarian regimes in Eastern Europe. Poland was on a similar path as Hungary but they managed to self correct with the most recent elections, and Slovakia's current regime is populist and authoritarian. Didn't Orban coin the term "illiberal democracy" to describe his vision of Hungary? It happens gradually: the independent media and NGOs are defunded and marginalized, the courts and universities get staffed with loyalists to the ruling party. The "othering" campaigns become very loud: anti-LGBT, anti-minorities, anti anything that differs from the norm, those people are painted as tools of Soros (a subtle way to say "Jews"), globalists, neoliberals, etc.

R48 Goddamn, do you have google? Have you been in a soap opera coma? Are you just fucking stupid? All three?

You have to laugh at idiots like R49.

As an example: Mexico is full of Americans expats, retirees, yet its Freedom Index score (Freedom House) is among the lowest. Certainly lower than Hungary. Americans move to all kinds of countries for work or to retire and are glad they did. And you're concerned about Hungary, an EU member?

Here's a 4 hour tour of Budapest. Click through it and compare it to your shit-hole cities.

Oh, honey, I've been to Hungary countless times, mostly Budapest, for work. I'd never go back there as long as Orban is in power. I'd rather give my money to governments that are not soft-fascist. And, if I want to go to some right wing place, Italy is far less provincial and with more things to see and do.

R53 The Hungarians don't give a rats ass about what Americans think.

Hungarians are peasants, so who cares.

I debate online with a guy who lives in Hungary. He is proud of his misogyny and homophobia. I didn't know it had to do with Hungary itself as he's not a native of Hungary and he's more of a digital nomad than anything.

You're a cunt R51 fyi

R55 says the American

Hungary is about to be flooded with Russians and Belarusians thanks to Orban. They ought to be kicked out of Schengen.

People like that all go to Hungary, R56, since you can be in your utopian pseudo-fascist paradise and still have the benefits of living in an EU country and being able to cross borders relatively easily. They are that welfare queen of teh EU who want all the benefits of being a member but without any obligations to play nice with the rest.

Yeah right R58

"Hungary recently relaxed entry rules for Russians and Belarusians, allowing "guest workers" to stay for two years, with an option to extend for another three years."

Why don't they do it the American way and just let people flood over the border?

Like all the Muslim refugees R59? Makes sense. He always tries to declare that my way of thinking is extremist and will die out because gays and feminists procreate the least. He doesn't seem to understand how many conservatives birth future liberals...

[quote]R54: The Hungarians don't give a rats ass about what Americans think.

Spoken like a Russian. They don't give a rat's ass, either. And they're just as thin-skinned about criticism.

Hungary has a fascism problem which is getting steadily worse. Even now, encroachments are being made upon LGBT rights. (see link) Eventually Orban will withdraw Hungary from NATO (he's currently trying to renegotiate the terms of Hungary's membership so that he can avoid coming into conflict with Putin). Putin will likely take over Hungary, war will ensue, and it will become a burned out shithole, like Germany in the wake of WWII.

[quote]R60: Why don't they do it the American way and just let people flood over the border?

Way to tell us you're far right, in sympathy with Trump and Putin.

Americans are experts at telling other people how to live. R62, you should look around you.

[quote]R63: Americans are experts at telling other people how to live.

Projection, in defense of fascism.

I've done nothing of the sort.

[quote]you should look around you.

To what do you wish to call my attention, exactly? Be specific.

“You wait 50 year and RA-SHA come to you!”

Oh boy.

Seems like Putin is looking at the slightly bigger picture, the one in which there’s no doubt that Kamala Harris wins in November.

Most if not all Americans in Russia will be held hostage (wording TBD), and the Western world will regret not having dealt with Putin earlier. This is a lunatic’s swan song, and no glee for sticking it to the other side will counterbalance the deep, multi-generational reverb of guilt stemming from the fact that we (yes, all of us) did not push push push for addressing this issue promptly.

R64 The US with it's outrageous 3rd world violent crime rates, tent cities, the homeless, very little social safety net, students with 10 of thousands in debt to get a fucking education, the shorter life span, the obesity, the war-zone homicide rates, the shootings, the corporate lobbies, the drug pushing Big Pharma, the billionaire political donors ....etc. and etc. And you're concerned about Hungary with a population of not even 10 million people and fascism???

R66 It's called the "Domino Theory".

It's what the American warmongers used to justify the war in Vietnam.

Perfect example of whataboutism, R67.

And those are far right talking points (like your crack at R60), unreflective of actual reality. (No, 'just letting people flood over the border' is not the American way.)

[quote]R67: And you're concerned about Hungary with a population of not even 10 million people and fascism???

No, actually. The one who's piping up shrilly in defense of Hungary is 𝑦𝑜𝑢, and you began with someone else besides me. You're in serious denial of what's happening in Hungary - or at least that's the posture you're adopting on this board. Your comments in reply to me suggest that you're in support of the growing fascism and the loss of LGBT rights in Hungary - it was in response to this latter that seems to have elicited your accusation of "telling other people how to live." It's becoming increasingly clear that 𝑦𝑜𝑢'𝑟𝑒 a fascist, and antigay to boot. What, outside of drawing a paycheck for trolling, are you even doing here on the Data Lounge?

"Why don't they do it the American way and just let people flood over the border?"

R69 Unreflective of reality? You're nuts.

"Hungary recently relaxed entry rules for Russians and Belarusians, allowing "guest workers" to stay for two years, with an option to extend for another three years."

Hungary has taken in 10 of thousands of Ukrainian refugees, but a program Russian guest workers is a problem?

^ program for Russian guest workers.

Boris is hella triggered with us shitting on shithole Hungary.

Fuck the fascist shithole. Hungary is a shitty country full of degenerates. All losers. They need a dictator to guide their weak asses like the failed state that is Russia.

Listen, troll, you can't defend the honor of a filthy whore. It's futile.

R62 Go to the graph at the bottom of the page and compare it to the graph on Italy's page. There is little difference.

Like Melania?

[quote]And those are far right talking points

For R69, pointing out the US's "...outrageous 3rd world violent crime rates, tent cities, the homeless, very little social safety net, students with 10 of thousands in debt to get a fucking education, the shorter life span, the obesity, the war-zone homicide rates, the shootings, the corporate lobbies, the drug pushing Big Pharma, the billionaire political donors ....etc. and etc."

Is far right talking points!!! LOL.

If you black or gay don’t go.

Gay Pride Budapest

The men there seem to loathe gay men. They think gay marriage is an abomination and have no qualms admitting it.

The guy I debate with reasons that if gay marriage was anything but an abomination then it would have been legalized many years ago. He also proudly admits that he won't hire anyone over 30 who does haven't kids.

I understand that one man does not represent all Hungarian citizens but I've not heard anyone in the year 2024 speak like that. It really drives home how backwards even a so called "first world" country can be

[quote]I understand that one man does not represent all Hungarian citizens

In an earlier post you said that this person you debate with is "not a native of Hungary and he's more of a digital nomad than anything.".

R80 he's not. He just lives there. I think he's settling there permanently. He won't admit where he's originally from but it's a formally communist country. He likes Hungary though, which says a lot.

R81 Hungary is a huge tourist destination for Europeans. The reasons are obvious.

R82 I have nothing against Hungary, but he makes it sound undesirable

Lets all troll Tucker to go, his life will be so much better there, they love him, he could live like a king, but he must bring all his money. And no, once he's in jail NOT PRISON SWAP!

[quote]R76: pointing out the US's "...outrageous 3rd world violent crime rates, tent cities, the homeless, very little social safety net, students with 10 of thousands in debt to get a fucking education, the shorter life span, the obesity, the war-zone homicide rates, the shootings, the corporate lobbies, the drug pushing Big Pharma, the billionaire political donors ....etc. and etc."... Is far right talking points!!! LOL.

Absolutely. It's pure conservative rhetoric, reinforced by carefully selected and edited conservative propaganda being passed off as "news" (NY Post, Fox, OANN, etc) broadcast to a select cohort of viewers. It's not reality. Some of what you're claiming is typical of selectively subjective takes (the way Fox broadcast a family of Latinos running across a busy thoroughfare with commentary labeling them "vermin"), and a lot of it are problems which Democrats have taken and plan to take positive steps to remedy.

You try to laugh off what I'm saying as absurd, but you really ought to read the room, Béla. Your conservative trolling is transparent. No one here is buying it.

[quote]Absolutely. It's pure conservative rhetoric

Gee...I didn't know that. I thought wanting a strong social safety net, eliminating student debt, suspicion of billionaires and lobbies etc. were issues dear to the left.

Putin will enlist them all

Keenan was not bad. Surprise

They are R86 but Putz has zero to do with those.

Vy sleep with Russian whore in America ven she can vait in bread line for you in Russia for free!?

Any man that accepts this offer and actually moves to Russia will promptly get drafted and sent off to Ukraine.

Our Hungarian troll's output in this thread:

R5, R32, R46, R52, R54, R57, R60, R63, R67, R68, R70, R71, R74, R76, R78, R80, R82, R86.

[quote]R86: Gee...I didn't know that. I thought wanting a strong social safety net, eliminating student debt, suspicion of billionaires and lobbies etc. were issues dear to the left.

Béla, the goals of the left and of Democrats are something entirely different from the conservative trash you were spewing at R67 and R76, which typifies Trump's propaganda, as well as how the media describes the US in Putin's Russia.

^ You're nuts. The post at R67 is conservative trash? They are FACTS.

R93, you cannot support those claims without linking to right-wing sources.

What's a 'FACT' is that you're trolling the DL with conservative propaganda.

R94 is so deranged he thinks the following facts about the US are merely inventions by right-wing sources! "The US with it's outrageous 3rd world violent crime rates, tent cities, the homeless, very little social safety net, students with 10 of thousands in debt to get a fucking education, the shorter life span, the obesity, the war-zone homicide rates, the shootings, the corporate lobbies, the drug pushing Big Pharma, the billionaire political donors"

LEFT BEHIND 3: THE EXCRETION

[quote]The US with it's outrageous 3rd world violent crime rates, tent cities, the homeless, very little social safety net, students with 10 of thousands in debt to get a fucking education, the shorter life span, the obesity, the war-zone homicide rates, the shootings, the corporate lobbies, the drug pushing Big Pharma, the billionaire political donors ....etc. and etc. And you're concerned about Hungary with a population of not even 10 million people and fascism???

And all that 3rd would cringe can be fixed with policies that help the people instead of Billionaire Welfare Queens

Ad hominem denunciations aren't an argument, R95.

You need to learn how to properly use apostrophes.

R98 Post R67 came about because of your response to my post "Americans are experts at telling other people how to live."

The point is, the rest of the world isn't as enamored with the US as you think it is and R67 is a list of some of the reasons why. They're not interested in lessons on how to live from Americans. They didn't consider the US a model to follow.

I know it's probably a shock to you, but they just might be happy with their culture and their governments.

^ They don't consider the US a model to follow

[quote]R99: The point is, the rest of the world isn't as enamored with the US as you think it is

Nowhere have I ever even implied that it was. I and others on this thread pointed out that Hungary has a steadily increasing fascism problem. Attacking the US was an extremely childish response on your part (i.e. Pee Wee Herman's "𝐼 𝑘𝑛𝑜𝑤 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑎𝑟𝑒, 𝑏𝑢𝑡 𝑤ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑎𝑚 𝐼?"). The US isn't at issue here.

[quote][R67] is a list of some of the reasons why.

It's cribbed from conservative Republican/Russian propaganda.

[quote]They're not interested in lessons on how to live from Americans. They don't consider the US a model to follow.

This isn't about 'lessons from Americans,' Béla. In the case of human rights violations, like those encroaching on LGBTQ rights, that's too bad. They need to cut it out, or live with the blowback from that, as well as from supporting Putin.

And to think you support that. Clearly you're not gay. What (outside of trolling and being a mouthpiece for fascism) are you even doing here?

[quote]I know it's probably a shock to you, but they just might be happy with their culture and their governments.

No, probably not. Who appointed you to speak on their behalf? The young and highly educated are leaving Hungary. Evidently they're not happy.

I hope these migrants go...they will get free everything, just the way they like it!

Head on over there and Make Russia Great Again!

R102 Name any country and I can find you articles about its disgruntled youth. Including the US.

Work: Europeans move within the European Union for work. Especially from the south. Germany is a particular magnet. In the EU, youth move from one country to another just as American youth leave their state to work in another state.

Population: Hungary has a larger population now than it did 10 years ago. Meanwhile Italy has a smaller population now than it did 10 years ago. And your point is?

From the article at R102: "Among Hungary's total population of 9.6 million people, the unemployment rate stands at around 4 percent. Yet for Hungarians under the age of 24, that figure is around 11 percent."

Unemployment, youth total (% of total labor force ages 15-24) (modeled ILO estimate)

Norway: 11%

France: 17.1%

Italy: 22.7%

Spain: 28.7%

Portugal: 20.2%

Greece: 26.6%

Denmark: 11.7%

So, when do they leave?

And where do we sign up to help them pack?

A lot of them were posting they're seriously considering taking up Putin's offer if Harris wins, so we may see some of them head over by the end of the year.

Santa be real, y'all!

[quote]R105: And your point is?

I've made my points, all of which you've completely avoided addressing.

If and when you decide to stop dodging the issue, I'll return and discuss it with you.

How can anyone possibly reason with someone who considers criticisms of the US i.e. "outrageous 3rd world violent crime rates, tent cities, the homeless, very little social safety net, students with 10 of thousands in debt to get a fucking education, the shorter life span, the obesity, the war-zone homicide rates, the shootings, the corporate lobbies, the drug pushing Big Pharma, the billionaire political donors" as right-wing talking points.

You're an idiot.