Data from major US cities show violent crime is dropping dramatically

The crime rates in American cities are still appalling compared to cities in every other Western country.

It doesn't feel that way in NY. The victim described the event as 'dystopian'

Over the last week so many stabbings in NY. Shootings are down but . . .

Teens are often the perps and the victims

The stats may ebb and flow, but it still feels dangerous

another stabbing at a migrant shelter over the weekend

What gets me is that the GOP and MAGAS COULDN'T GIVE TWO SHITS that most victims of gun violence are BLACK. (There's also a disturbing number of women killed by current/former partners in murder-suicides.) It's only a convenient talking point to rile up their mouth-breathing base.

I live in philly, 2020 was a horrible year as far as crime stats. the most violent neighborhoods though have had a significant drop in violent crime since then.

I blocked the troll and most of the thread went POOF!

R8, Philly is third world right now. Its progressive DA doesn’t prosecute.

NYC crime stats weren't reported in the OP's article, so you can save those links for another time R2, R3, R4, R5 and R6.

If you don’t answer 911 and don’t make arrests then yes the crime statistics begin to drop.

One argument for why crime statistics might be dropping in Democratic cities is that there have been significant changes in policing policies. Some cities have reduced arrests for petty crimes and adopted a more lenient approach to minor offenses. This could lead to a lower reported crime rate, as fewer people are arrested and processed for these offenses. Additionally, there are instances where non-urgent 911 calls may not receive immediate responses, which might affect crime reporting and statistics.

These changes are often part of broader criminal justice reforms aimed at addressing systemic issues within policing and reducing the impact of the justice system on marginalized communities. While such policies may lead to a decrease in arrests for minor offenses, it’s important to consider the broader context and the complex factors contributing to crime statistics.

– A man was wounded in a shooting at a party in the Bronx early Tuesday morning, according to the NYPD.

It seems it isn't a party without a shooting nowadays.

Many assaults seem random, senseless.

r12 = MAGAt talking point

Crime stats are like catnip to DL's numerous KKKlan Grannies like R1, R2 et al.

Summer seems the worst time for assaults in NY

I don't think violent crime has dropped dramatically judging by the past week in NY

2 tourists from Mexico shoved onto NYC subway tracks: 'Everybody’s getting pushed'-August 5th

Unhinged woman arrested

Blacks blacks blacks

[quote] The Axios review also found that the number of homicides in the 69 reported cities fell by more than 17% during the first half of 2024 compared to the last period last year.

This is great news.

All my years in NYC, never once did I experience or witness violent crime.

Post CoViD, & in another large metropolitan area? I saw it repeatedly on busses & subways.

The pandemic shifted us not only economically, but culturally. Had the pandemic been managed properly from its onset, I strongly suspect things would be different today. It was not, and then the world witnessed an American cop murder George Floyd, live & on repeat, with a President who gave zero shits about Americans? Yeah. We were basically doomed with little to zero recourse.

It’s viscerally outstanding that so many Americans want Part 2, of one of the most tragic stories ever witnessed & told.

R23 don't forget the catch and release mandate in NY. Some many crimes in NY have been committed by repeat offenders who had multiple arrests and then set free w/o bail.

One of the men in the rape and assault in Coney Island a few days ago had 3 prior arrests for assault and no convictions.

R24 interested to hear your take on the drop in homicides. Let me guess, they’re being underreported too? 😂😂😂 or are the victims coming back to life and haunting the NY subway system, pushing unsuspecting victims under trains (senselessly!), therefore artificially altering the violent crime rate?

Hate crimes and shootings surged 335% in 2022 so a drop in homicides is going in the right direction after near historic highs from 2021-2023. Hochul deployed the National Guard to the subways in the spring and metal detectors were placed in some subway stations yet the feeling that NY is unsafe is not unfounded.

[quote] Hate crimes and shootings surged 335% in 2022

This is one category? “Hate crimes and shootings”? How bizarre. Or did they both happen to “surge” the exact same percentage R26? Happen to have a supporting link for that?

It was hate crimes against Asians that surged 335% R27

Violent crime has been rising over the past two years, with crazed, unstable people in the subways and fearless teenagers with guns.

Shootings that once took place in back alleys now happen on crowded streets in the middle of the afternoon, gang members blasting at one another with bystanders caught in the crossfire.

There were 485 murders in New York City in 2021, the highest total in 10 years. There were also more than 1,500 shootings, the highest in 15 years and double the number just two years ago.

Shootings were down in all five boroughs. Last year, about 400 fewer people were shot than in 2022, when 1,566 were shot.

There were 386 homicides in 2023, a 12 percent drop from 2022.

But a troubling trend in the number of killings and shootings of people under 18 persisted.

30 replies but if you block one person it drops to 17 replies. Hmmmm. Why come to DL to troll when the rest of the internet is a pro Trump safe space. Take it to Twitter, Reddit, Youtube comments or Facebook.

R28 ah so you were wrong or lying. And what about shootings? You said those were also up 335%? Link?

I pointed out my error at R28. Can you ever forgive me? Nonetheless, crimes rose significantly over 3 years in NY and the downward trend may mean safer but is it safe enough? See R29The types of crimes and who and where they are committed have changed over time.

“For the first time in my life—even in the late eighties and nineties when the crime rate was killing 2,000 people a year, I never felt as unsafe as I do now just walking around and God forbid, sometimes we take the subway home from WABC, and you’re hearing about an assault on the subway almost every other day,” the former governor said.-2022

R34 still waiting on the +335% shooting link. You didn’t acknowledge that one yet. Let’s see it!

^ Governor Paterson

NYC in the late 80s was terrifying. Now, not so much.

MAGa wants America to fail, so they can control it with all of their crazy binder ideas.

R35 I already acknowledged my error. BTW I don't work for you. Maybe I had a cold or maybe it was jet lag!

R39 no, you acknowledged your error regarding the hate crimes (general) versus hate crimes (against asian people). Im gonna push you for an explanation about the shootings. You just flat out lied didn’t you.

Push all you want hon! Try getting a life.🙋‍♂️🙋‍♀️

R41 it’s been fun watching you squirm, next time lie about something that’s not as easily disprovable. This is just troll amateur hour on your part. Enjoy living in your media induced brain prison of fear tho! bisous x x x

[quote]NYC in the late 80s was terrifying. Now, not so much.

And affordable, interesting, creative, and fun. Also now not so much.

Oh absolutely R43! That’s why I moved here then.

I do think it is still fun.

What is wrong with black people? Seriously, why are they so violent? They're the overwhelming majority who commit these violent crimes in American cities. That's just the truth.

R45 Enslave European whites, ship them to China and breed/sell them as chattel for generations, then turn them loose for another several generations in a rigged system that greatly obstructs their education, nutrition, safety, access to resources, etc. Then have the government conspire to both spread addictive drugs in white communities and bring in as many rural ultra han nationalists as possible to police the white neighborhoods in cities. It's a stupid fucking question

We were slaves in Egypt for 300 years and you know what darling? We got over it.

r46 I guess you never heard of the Moors, the Barbary pirates, not to mention the Ottman Empire. Whites went through some fucked up shit too.

R46 Bullshit. You know very little about the world and the ordeal that other races and peoples went through.

Violent crime has dropped.

It has gone from being obscenely high, back down to being extremely high.

If the "lower" crime rates in a US city like Chicago or Detroit were happening in cities like Amsterdam, Vienna or Copenhagen it would be a national emergency.

Last year there were 329 homicides in Italy. A country of 59 million people.

Last year there were 617 homicides in Chicago. A city of 2.6 million people.

Citywide data is useless. Everyone knows and agrees that crime is not uniform across all areas of a city. There are many neighborhoods that very safe and other neighborhoods that are like 1980s Beirut. In big cities, those good or okay neighborhoods are far more numerous than the deadly areas, making the overall per capita crime rate low, but hiding the extreme crime rate in the worst areas.

[Quote] Last year there were 329 homicides in Italy. A country of 59 million people.

There were 386 homicides in NY in 2023, a 12 percent drop from 2022 NY is not a country and has a population of 19.6 million

[quote] Last year there were 617 homicides in Chicago. A city of 2.6 million people.

Speaking of Chicago, you can see from the map in this article from 2021 that it is specific areas that have high crime rate. It’s not uniform across the city. Looking at the city as a whole diminishes the high rate of the bad areas.

Crime is happening all over NYC

The study from the U.S. News and World Report last week ranked Nassau County -- on Long Island -- as the #1 safest county in the nation.

After Nassau County, Rockland County ranked in at #3, Westchester County at #6 and Putnam County at #8.

New Jersey's Bergen County came in at #9 on the list.

R53 My city has areas where people walk around with their wallet bulging in their back pocket, their $2,000 laptop under their arm because it's very safe. Touristsare very safe in the downtown core. But 2 miles away someone is killed in a gang related shooting almost every day.

When I lived in Europe, gang related deaths happened maybe once per year. Violent crime was very rare but petty crime was a constant. Walk around with a wallet in your back pocket and it is getting snatched even in the ritziest part of town. Stroll around with a Starbucks in one hand and your Macbook under your arm and it will be gone.

My ex lives in Seattle. He is from Chicago. He was robbed in Croatia on his first day there. He had a LV backback with those big Apple earphones, his camera and several hundred in cash. He walked through a market, stopped to buy some fruit, took his bag from his shoulder and everything was gone! He never felt a thing. They were very skilled because they tossed his ID out of his wallet before taking it! He was mortified. He said how can someone from Chicago be victimized for the first time in Split, Croatia. When he sheeplishly told his brother he admitted that he and his wife were robbed on their honeymoon in Paris and had been too embarassed to tell anyone.

R58 In the US they would have been stabbed in the process.

Worst crime and violence per capita, are in Republican dominated states.

Poverty and poor education breeds desperate people who turn to crime.

Blue states still have extreme crime rates compared to the rest of the Western World.

Americans are so cluelessly naive.

Yeah, property theft is way more common in Europe then it is in the States. If they were armed to the teeth in population dense areas like we are, violent crime would probably be comparable.

Meanwhile as someone who grew up in a 99% white rural area where violent crime was super high (an area town with fewer than 1,000 people had three unrelated murders in a single year. Body parts from multiple people were found strewn about the forest in another town) and who now lives in super safe, very diverse Nassau County, all the racist trolls can take a long walk off a short pier.

Sorry r62 but blacks are disproportionately responsible for violent crime in the US. That's just a fact.

Eh, they also are disproportionately excluded from mental health resources and disproportionately exposed to lead as children.

When you control for lead exposure, mental health treatment access and socioeconomic factors the difference disappears.

[quote]Meanwhile as someone who grew up in a 99% white rural area where violent crime was super high (an area town with fewer than 1,000 people had three unrelated murders in a single year.

Where was this? I grew up in a small ruralish town that was mostly white and there was no crime. I've also lived in a predominately African- American small town, which felt safe.

We’ve had this argument before. If you really want to figure out if crime — and what type — is rising or falling — you need to look past headlines or politicians’ claims and look around.

1. What time frame is the rise or fall is supposed to be occurring in (some falling stats go only as fall as the pandemic when it rose but don’t include pre-pandemic)

2. Is “crime” violent crime, petty crime or both? If murder is down is rape or assault up?

3. Have reporting methods changed? Yes they have in the past few years with NY not included.

4. Does a POTUS even affect crime?

[quote] Between the lines: The Major Cities Chiefs Association's preliminary data did not include New York City — the nation's largest city — since it did not submit violent crime numbers to the organization for the first half of 2024.

[quote] Data from New York City, which is released on its own website, couldn't be compared to other cities in this report. The NYPD's communications team — seeking to shape discourse around crime in New York — has taken a substantially more aggressive stance with politicians, the media and members of the public this year.

Lead exposure? In the last 40 years? Sure.

This is a terrible story, but a friend of mine lived around the corner from the projects near Lincoln Center. Within a month after moving in to the neighborhood he was using the N word.

R67 are you daft? There’s still lead in pre-1978 housing stock and lots and lots of water pipes in the US.

^^And that accounts for all of the violent crime. You're a fucking idiot.

Please quote from my post where I said all violent crime was the result of lead exposure.

TIA!

Lead exposure is negligent. It's cultural.

Not prosecuting "petty" crimes, letting people go without bail, and other "progressive" policies have definitely skewed the reported crime statistics in NYC. It has also contributed to a sense of lawlessness in everything from retail (everything is locked up now), to public transit. Criminals are emboldened. They feel they can strike you or strong arm you if they want to risk it, because the consequences aren't going to happen. The "marginalized" communities these idiotic policies were meant to help are primarily the ones committing more of the crimes. Why can't this be aired openly and confronted rather than everyone pretending it doesn't exist?

[quote]Why can't this be aired openly and confronted rather than everyone pretending it doesn't exist?

There are so many reasons.

[quote]. Not prosecuting "petty" crimes, letting people go without bail, and other "progressive" policies have definitely skewed the reported crime statistics in NYC

How would releasing without bail and other progressive measures (other than not prosecuting) skew reporting of crime? Are you thinking about what you type?

I have to disagree with this article OP. I live near New Orleans and frequent it regularly. The robbery and mugging have only gotten worse in the past ten years. I would only imagine many urban areas across the US are feeling it too.

Hasn't this been the case for awhile?

R72 it’s neither all nor is it negligent. Real life rarely lends itself to extremes.

I see Brandonjoseph is up to his old tricks again. Can you imagine going through life being that fearful, angry, and paranoid?

It’s very sad to think about.

R80 Yeah, property theft is way more common in Europe then it is in the States.

Link please

Summer in the city

Are box cutters and knives the latest accessories in NY?

[quote]Lead exposure is negligent. It's cultural.

True.

On world-wide scale, lead exposure in the US is much lower than in countries like Spain, Hungary, Belgium, Poland, Portugal...all with much, much lower crime rates than the US.

R2 Between the lines: The Major Cities Chiefs Association's preliminary data did not include New York City — the nation's largest city — since it did not submit violent crime numbers to the organization for the first half of 2024.

Poor brandonjoseph -- so scared of life; so paranoid. He must not sleep at night for fear of the boogeyman hiding under his bed!

Boston's homicide rate is incredibly low. In a city of 650,000 (more like 850-900,000 from Sept - May if you count the students), it's mid-August and there have been only ten murders in the city this year.

R87, are there any bad areas in Boston that are no-go zones for normal people?

Not really r88

Are there ANY "no-go" zones in America? I don't think so.

Plenty, r90

[quote]Are there ANY "no-go" zones in America? I don't think so.

Yes there are, and it's not referring to the type of so-called no-go zones in Europe.

Crime rates are down but crime is up. This is discussed here ad nauseam. They're not charging the perps, they just release them back into society.

The asshole migrant who raped the woman at Coney Island was charged last year with raping another woman and they released him. They fucking released him. I don't care what side of the aisle you fall on this is totally unacceptable.

But the crime rate is down!

In other words: “Who you gonna believe, me or your lying eyes?”

[quote] Crime rates are down but crime is up. This is discussed here ad nauseam. They're not charging the perps, they just release them back into society.

According to what proof?

This thread is ground central for lack of critical thinking. When someone says, "I don't care what the statistics show, I BELIEVE that it's more dangerous now and crime is higher, so that means it's true, no matter what the statistics show", that person has just demonstrated a complete inability to think critically. What is thinking critically? It means that when someone is shown facts, he'd better have a damn good reason for ignoring them and substituting beliefs or feelings when arguing a point. Absent those strong, well-articulated feelings based upon other facts, which must be laid out in detail, we can ignore all subsequent posts by that person.

What things don't count as facts? News reports about crimes. News media are sensationalist. They get readership/viewership by showing danger and mayhem. People do not tune into stories about girls winning awards for selling the most girl scout cookies. Going back to archives of New York City newspapers for 100 years, especially papers such as the Post, there will be a murder or a stabbing or a beating in every single issue, if not many. . This is a city whose metropolitan area is more than 20,000,000 and that means that a violent crime every day does NOT represent a high crime rate per capita. Far from it. A crime rate of 1% in the NYC metropolitan area would mean that 200,000, (TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND) people per year would have had to have been personally affected by a crime. Try to soak that in. That's more than the population of the vast majority of cities in the US

I am completely unsurprised that a bunch of queens who think they are the center of the universe think they're anecdotal data is a hill to die on.

Their* (fucking phone)

R93 Same for Norman Nelson, a 49-year-old menace with at least six prior arrests who randomly slugged a French tourist in the head in Midtown on Saturday, just days after allegedly hitting an 81-year-old man in the head with a crate on East 14th Street.

He finally got slapped with third-degree assault and aggravated harassment charges — but with Gotham’s revolving-door justice system, don’t bet that he’ll stay locked up.

Both tales came to light just days after a chronically emotionally disturbed woman, Ebony Butts, allegedly shoved two tourists onto the subway tracks.

Frequency and amplitude aren't the same thing, as Murdoch's NY Post knows very well.

R100 don't forget Pete Repeat "Murdoch Post links give clickdollars and SEO to people who hate gays."

Talk about getting the lead out!

Just to eliminate any doubt that we have a bad actor enflaming the conversation, here's a screenshot of the troll talking to themselves.

you see more blacks and mexicans and therefore perceive crime as on the rise - you fukken KLANGRANNIES

Hope those anger management classes work out for you R104

The disturbing crime came fewer than two weeks after Jennifer Guilbeault, 23, allegedly unleashed pepper spray in her Uber driver’s eyes, also on the Upper East Side, at the corner of Lexington Avenue and East 65th Street, cops said.

At least 30 robberies have been reported in the park this year, and there were just 10 during the same period in 2023.

There have also been ten felony assaults this year compared to just 7 last year.

Grand larcenies are on the uptick as well.

10 to 30 could be one gang of kids having a profitable summer.

The idea that the stats are wrong because hundreds of homicides are going unreported is batshit.

I looked a a few years worth of first half reports and was surprised at the volatility of the numbers. Very large swings. 4624 homicides in 2021 and 3124 in 2024. It’s a PITA to compare pdfs on my phone so I didn’t go back any further, but it seems like 2024 is a continuation of a reversion to the norm after a COVID upswing. I feel like the COVID upswing was underreported, but maybe I just wasn’t paying attention.

R45 Because of this bitch.

R47 you are an idiot. Your slavery isn’t linked to your modern day culture. Slavery existed well into the Industrial Revolution. And even when officially done with slavery culture existed up until the 30s in the US south.

This thread is being trolled by someone replying to themselves with right wing links to get a rise out of us. Recommend blocking this thread. 🚫

Societal trash tends to take care of itself, when society has things set up the way we have.

Yay, America! Dead urbanites!

I can’t take seriously anyone who states that discussion about violent crime is a political conspiracy.

Here you go, R96. At the link you will find a dashboard from the Manhattan DA's office. Click on dashboards and have a blast.

This data is specifically for crimes sentenced - dates ranging from 2013 through 2023. 2013: 62,258. 2023: 11,510. Boy that sure is some amazing drop. I wonder how that could be. I better put on my critical thinking cap and think, think, think,

And as always thank you for your brevity. What could have been said is less than 20 words you turned into yet another condescending and bloviated dissertation.

Thanks O’Biden!

r110 doesn't get the joke.

Crime is definitely up in NYC. You have posters here like me who've lived in the city for decades and we can all tell you that.

R44, I thought you lived in FL? Or do you have a place in both states? I might be confusing you with someone else.

Anyhow, yes! It was affordable, & fun. So much to do, all day, every day. I never felt scared back then, either.

I still ❤️ NY.

R117: Defacto, who visited nyc that one time

No r119 crime is worse than it was.

No it’s not r120, and anyway what would you know about it? Focus on Pittsburgh.

Hochul deploys the National Guard in the subway. Mayor Adams starts sending out drones....they are doing these extreme measures because crime is down??

Last year the most reputable polling organization, NYTimes/Siena found this:

"According to the study, 70% of New York City residents are very (30%) or somewhat (40%) concerned that they will be targeted in a serious crime, while 57% of respondents said they were fearful for the safety of themselves or their families in public places like schools, stores or houses of worship."

Got that? 70% of NYC residents concerned they’ll be victims of serious crime.

And that's because crime is down?

r121 I've lived in NYC since the 90s and I can tell you crime and vagrancy is the worst I've ever seen.

Why are some posters so touchy about crime rates. As has been pointed out, crime rates, even the "lower" crime rates, in the US are appalingly high compared to the rest of the West.

You never saw the kind of subway violence in the 90s and 2000s that you do now, or the random street attacks. Esp. on the UES and UWS.

Both down and up are useless descriptors when not the the comparator is not named.

R118 you have me confused with Senior Lesbian.

R122 It's the random, unprovoked assaults that are more prevalent now that have people concerned for their safety. There are so many mentally ill and homeless people on the street. Hochul's deployment of the National Guard is in response to a number of incidents of people being shoved onto the tracks. It happened last week to two tourists allegedly shoved by an 'emotionally disturbed' whose name is and I'm not making it up Ebony Butts!

Earlier this year a number of women reported being randomly punched in the face. A story which gained more press when actor Steve Buscemi became a victim.

I find it odd that so many posters here are upset by what others are saying regarding crime in New York City than they are about the people who are actually doing the shoving, slashing, shooting and pepper spraying!

Defacto at r122, proven wrong on the facts, next turns to public perception.

Is Defacto on permanent disability? Was she fired from her job and paid severance just to get rid of her?

[Quote] I find it odd that so many posters here are upset by what others are saying regarding crime in New York City

You find it odd that people are pointing out that you’re factually wrong, Defacto, and then providing statistics to prove it? Yes, that checks out.

R126, and every single one of those assailants had priors but were not charged and released within hours. For the last time: Crime stats are down. Crime is up.

I'm assuming R129 that most of the posters who are so defensive are boomers who may have lived in New York for a number of decades. It would be interesting to see what the younger generation of working New Yorkers who weren't around in the 70s 80s and 90s feels about it.

R129. Are you assuming that murder is also often unreported? Or are you assuming that murders are moving in the opposite direction of all other crimes?

UPPER WEST SIDE (WABC) -- Young migrants living in city-run shelters are believed to be behind recent increases in robberies in the southern end of Central Park, surrounding their victims and using "wolfpack force" to mug them.

"Southern part of the park, we see a lot of robberies, group robberies, young kids, mugging people or taking their property, we believe these are young migrants who are committing these robberies," NYPD Chief of Patrol John Chell said Wednesday on Mornings @ 10.

An 11-year-old arrested in connection to a robbery in the subway Tuesday night was captured on surveillance video using credit cards from one of the Central Park victims, who is part of an eight-incident pattern.

Two of the three young suspects arrested in a robbery in Grand Army Plaza in Central Park early Tuesday are residing in city run migrant shelters one of them at the Row Hotel

LOL, WABC7 news is on and they're reporting that crime is up 200%.

They broke down the categories with various percentages: Robberies, Felony Assaults and one other category I can't recall. But hey keep telling us we're crazy and crime is down.

[quote] Here you go, [R96]. At the link you will find a dashboard from the Manhattan DA's office. Click on dashboards and have a blast.

This data is specifically for crimes sentenced - dates ranging from 2013 through 2023. 2013: 62,258. 2023: 11,510.

Thanks R114. Really highlights what bullshit crime stats have become

Yep R114, thats

Oh jeez I fucked that up

Crime is down in most metropolitan cities, not so much in the impoverished southern towns though.

R134, if you click up top under DASHBOARD you can also view arraignments and dispositions.

Nothing to see here. What crime?

[quote]Defacto at [R122], proven wrong on the facts, next turns to public perception.

R127 I don't know who this Defect person is you seem obsessed with but it's not me, so give it a rest. You sound unhinged.

I know numbers are math and math is hard for some of you, but crime can simultaneously be up from 2019 and down from any year from about 1970 - 2005.

KIDS!

Maybe NY should change its sanctuary status.

The NYPD chief of patrol once New York City to change sanctuary city laws to allow collaboration with ICE

Mayor Eric Adams has called it a humanitarian crisis that will cost the city about $12 billion over three years. In the fall, he declared a state of emergency. In recent weeks, city officials have said they are running out of room.

The reason why crime seems like it’s up because it is more spread out now. There is no vast conspiracy. Crime IS down— difference is in the past po ass mofos wouldn’t dare go to the upper east side and commit crime. Because they knew that not only would they be prosecuted the NYPD might beat the living shit out of them first. Cops cannot operate like that which is good. But now you just have crime happening in the upper echelon parts of the city because police cannot operate like complete pigs like they used to.

#Capitalism

[quote] Crime is down in most metropolitan cities, not so much in the impoverished southern towns though

Is it hard for you to walk around with your eyes closed and your fingers in your ears? R136

[quote]I know numbers are math and math is hard for some of you, but crime can simultaneously be up from 2019 and down from any year from about 1970 - 2005.

I can only speak for NY and Philly. Two cities I know well. And I lived in NYC during the '70s and part of the '80s.

Crime may have been higher back then but it was limited to certain neighborhoods. And that was that.

Today it's diffuse. Anything can happen anywhere. Unprovoked. There is a randomness to it.

And that aspect spreads fear. Paranoia. It cuts deeply into the quality of life, in a way it did not before.

BTW: In 2022 there were 1,311 car jackings in Philadelphia. Not Medellín Colombia, Philadelphia.

It's this kind of scary unprovoked crime, the looting, the car jackings, that have people on edge.

R144. You are right. That’s why we need to make sure poor women have access to abortion. And we also need to prosecute repeat offender for quote unquote minor violent crime.

Also and I don’t the proper stance on this but I do know that if a juvenile committed say acar jacking, especially if they beat the person up they would stay in juvie for at least 16 months. Nowadays we take a much more compassionate stance toward juice criminals, one that is always concerned about rehabilitation. The justice system used to didn’t give a fuck about that. Yeah the juvie record would be sealed and the sentencing slightly lower but in the past juvenile car jackers and strong arm robbers spent that ass in prison for considerable time.

Juvie* criminals

A very good article in today's NYPost about how crime statistics are being manipulated.

I know, I know, the first response will be "But it's the NYPost!". OK. Now that we've gotten that out of the way, read the article and if there is a problem with the reasoning and the facts stated in the article let us know.

"Democrats are hiding the rise in violent crime with tricky statistics"

[quote]The reason why crime seems like it’s up because it is more spread out now. There is no vast conspiracy. Crime IS down— difference is in the past po ass mofos wouldn’t dare go to the upper east side and commit crime.

THIS. You could walk around the UES or UWS at 2 in the morning and you still felt safe. Not anymore. It's more spread out.

[Quote] You are right. That’s why we need to make sure poor women have access to abortion.

Agreed R145 and not just poor women. No more wire hangers EVER!

So young!

I believe that abortions should be available on demand, free of charge, and every Wal Mart should have an abortion clinic.

case in point R149

Having lived on the UWS in the early 1990, I call BS.

In the late 90s and 2000s the UWS was pretty safe. My drunken twink ass would walk the streets after getting shifaced and coked up at The Works and I never had a problem. I would never do that now, even completely sober.

There was literally a coked up, machete wielding lunatic running around pushing people into traffic for seven years. But I guess because he mostly attacked women you felt safe.

None of the women I knew were attacked r156. I never even heard about that. God, you're tedious.

R157 When I lived in New York I used to go to the Works even though I didn't live on the Upper West Side, and I don't remember hearing about that machete wielding lunatic either. But that was apparently one person causing all of that mayhem and apparently in one particular neighborhood. But going forward 3 decades the current mayhem involving people being shoved onto the subway tracks, slashed, punched, raped and robbed at gunpoint Is occurring in all neighborhoods and it's far from just one person doing it all.

In the 80s and 90s I remember hearing about numerous car break-ins as well as people's apartments being broken into on the Upper West Side, Morningside Heights and Inwood.

Today at bingo Helen Pixley told us that she was doing laundry on Sunday and hung her intimate garments including her control top panties and underwire bras out on the line to dry. Her neighbor called her and told her that a colored man was taking things off her clothes line when she looked out the window she saw him running off with all of her bras and panties! Women are no longer safe!

R159 Don't quit your day job.

Even back in the day the justice system failed New Yorkers

‘Wild Man’ Terrorizes N.Y.’s Upper Westside By DANA KENNEDY Sept. 6, 1992 12 AM PT

ASSOCIATED PRESS NEW YORK — They call him the “Wild Man,” and he’s been terrorizing the Upper West Side for seven years. Larry Hogue, a 52-year-old homeless crack addict, roams the streets with an assortment of weapons--a machete, a screwdriver, an ice pick--and police say he has a penchant for chasing women with small dogs and pushing pedestrians into traffic.

He’s been arrested or sent to mental hospitals at least 37 times since 1985, but always ends up back on the streets of this neighborhood, a mix of affluent high-rise apartments and rough tenements.

Yeah, well in 2024 if you multiply Larry the Wild Man by thousands you have an average day in the city.

Teen violence on the subway. Stabbings are virtually a daily event in the Big Apple

The people seeking political asylum came from insane asylums! Think about it. I’m very smart. My uncle was on the faculty of MIT. Good genes.

The late MIT Professor John Trump’s family have trashed Trump.

Fake news. Stable genius.

I wonder what psychological need the Crime Panic Troll fulfills by constantly posting a news story on every mugging in NYC.

Is she a NYC shut in who can afford Wifi but not friends?

Is she a flyover queen who hates the fact that other people are having fun?

Does she think she's owning the uppity New Yorkers?

It's weird.

No R167.

They're people who are able to break away from their party's talking points.

They're people who are able to think on their own instead of toeing the party line.

They're people like Mayor Adams and Governor Hochul wo are finally addressing the issue of out-of-control crime in NYC to the point they're calling in the National Guard to patrol the subways and flying drones over Central Park.

Lastly, and most importantly, R167, they're not condescending assholes like you and a few others in this thread.

R163, they just took a 14-year-old into custody. "He's had prior interactions with police." A 14-year-old repeat offender repeat offending. But crime rates are down, right?

[Quote] Is she a NYC shut in who can afford Wifi but not friends?

how does one afford friends?

[quote]They're people who are able to break away from their party's talking points.

You're so brave! The way you relentlessly post on anonymous internet formus!!! You're just like one of the girls who desegregated Little Rock High! Or Gandhi or Mandela!!!

[quote]They're people who are able to think on their own instead of toeing the party line.

You're a member of the Intellectual Dark Web!!! Just like Bari Weiss and Jordan Peterson!!!

[quote]They're people like Mayor Adams and Governor Hochul

...hahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

omg.

hahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

R171 has an incredibly fragile ego.

It must have taken extra time and care for you to separate your ha ha's from your ah ah's and then reverse form. *Read mentally ill* You get a cookie.

Copy and paste are simple things. So is a space bar.

But do ask your brilliant idol Mayor Eric Adams for more advice on how to navigate the savage NYC Subway system and emerge with your virginity intact.

[quote]I wonder what psychological need the Crime Panic Troll fulfills by constantly posting a news story on every mugging in NYC.

Mugging?

How quaint. Are you posting from 1965?

R167, R171, R173. You've contributed nothing to this thread except to mock those with whom you disagree. Why haven't you joined the debate by posting factual stats to offset our stats?

Don't forget to add the extra "ha" at the end of your next inciteful (not insightful) post.

*Mental illness on display*

[quote] A 14-year-old repeat offender repeat offending. But crime rates are down, right?

Lol. Hilarious hysterical old frau cow.

No, sweetie. I'm mocking you. Because you're insane.

R174 I noticed the poster talked about muggings but didn't mention several reported stabbings. Perhaps they were trying to downplay the seriousness of the assaults.

Any violent crime is too much violent crime.

That said violent crime is most certainly down from the days when there were six murders a day in NYC.

R179 You still don't get it.

[quote]That said violent crime is most certainly down from the days when there were six murders a day in NYC.

And now crime is all over the city. In 30 years I never had to worry about being assaulted or accosted or pushed in front of a fucking train or seeing Duane Reeds basically being looted on the fucking UES and UWS. Or the Village. Or in Midtown. Now it's everywhere because of these fucking animals who the NYPD and the Mayor are doing nothing about.

^^Duane Reades being looted

So crime is personally up against you and that is the only crime that counts? Fuck people who can’t afford to live on the UES? Poor people’s murders shouldn’t be in the statistics?

I don’t think declaring that narcissism trumps math in your mind is the own you think it is.

R183 spot on elderlez. For one thing it’s perception bias. Crime is not off the chain like that. In the past you saw crime on the five o clock news. Now you get daily updates, and it’s all on social media. Not only learning of the crime that occurred, but actual videos of some of them happening. It makes the realism heightened. New York City is way safer than it was in 80s and early 9s0s. That’s fact.

R181, Adams doesn't' have the power to remove Bragg from office but Hochul does. Instead of locking up the repeat offenders they unleash them back on society to commit more crimes. That's all on Bragg.

Then much needed resources are redirected for additional security. Why are they expending so much time and energy on this when she has the power to remove him from office? Deploying the Nation Guard? Drones flying over central Park? It sounds as if someone were describing a war zone and that's exactly what it is.

R183, I think you misunderstood R181's post. Your constant personal attacks prove you lack the emotional intelligence to discuss a topic in a reasonable and calm manner.

R184, your last persona had you living in California, now you're a NYC aficionado?

[quote]So crime is personally up against you and that is the only crime that counts? Fuck people who can’t afford to live on the UES? Poor people’s murders shouldn’t be in the statistics?

[quote]I don’t think declaring that narcissism trumps math in your mind is the own you think it is.

Crime is a city-wide problem. For a so-called world-class city in a so-called first world country the incidents of violent crime and street crime is appalling. We're talking about a first world Western nation, no Colombia. It is a major crisis but virtue-signaling cunts like you just parrot the same old woke bullshit.

R185 Bitch as a former New Yorker I always follow New York crime and politics. You need to take a chill pill. And my parents were born and raised in New York so I know about the culture there from 60s and 70s. My best friends are from New York. New York stays on my radar. Your ass needs some fucking help.

[quote]Crime is not off the chain like that. In the past you saw crime on the five o clock news. Now you get daily updates, and it’s all on social media. Not only learning of the crime that occurred, but actual videos of some of them happening. It makes the realism heightened. New York City is way safer than it was in 80s and early 9s0s. That’s fact.

Oh so I guess all of us exposed to it on a daily basis are just hallucinating, then. Moron.

Nobody should have to deal with the threat of being attacked on the street or pushed in front of the train in neighborhoods where this has never been a problem before.

r188 is also:

[quote]Sorry r62 but blacks are disproportionately responsible for violent crime in the US. That's just a fact.

r189 I love posters like you who trolldar and post quotes in an attempt to "shame" the poster who is their target. Grow the fuck up.

R188 Pleas tell me when was the last time you were attacked, mugged, or robbed. Y’all are letting social media over heighten your senses. You get the same sensational story reported to you 3-4 times a day on multiple platforms, and often with 4K video. There’s cameras everywhere. Imma tell you like I told my mom: Stop watching true crime and the FBI Files show and you won’t be so scary of people.

R189 He is not wrong though. And I’m black.

Blow it out your racist pie hole, r190.

r191 I know several people who've had that happen to them. I see people getting attacked and stores getting looted. It's nuts.

r193 why don't you go play hall monitor in another thread?

R1 Yep. You can blame the NRA and the legacy of slavery for that.

[quote]r192 = And I’m black.

Of course you are, Teafake...

I was robbed in 1989. And I wasn’t knifed, but someone in my subway car was that same year and it was terrifying. And through the 90’s I had several experiences of creeps exposing themselves to me or groping me on crowded subway cars.

^ responding to R191

I will no longer diss you on the in-na-net because my mama taught me better than that.

Wait, so elderlez you are r188 unsigned?

Goodness no!!

[quote]And now crime is all over the city. In 30 years I never had to worry about being assaulted or accosted or pushed in front of a fucking train or seeing Duane Reeds basically being looted on the fucking UES and UWS. Or the Village. Or in Midtown. Now it's everywhere because of these fucking animals who the NYPD and the Mayor are doing nothing about.

True.

^^^ True

“For the first time in my life—even in the late eighties and nineties when the crime rate was killing 2,000 people a year, I never felt as unsafe as I do now just walking around and God forbid, sometimes we take the subway home from WABC, and you’re hearing about an assault on the subway almost every other day,” the former governor said.-2022

Don’t believe the propaganda.

You can say that if you like, but is simply wouldn’t be true

'The new norm' random, unprovoked attacks

[quote]“There are many crimes being committed — random acts, random attacks — on females on the streets,” Dillon said. “It’s not going away, and it’s not getting any better. And it’s getting much, much worse. And the media and the police are definitely downplaying this. It’s a huge, huge problem.”

Downplaying because the perps are all black. God forbid anyone be accused of being racist!

[quote]“I’m not shocked because this kind of crime is the new norm in New York City,” Dillon said in her video. “It just seemed like another day, another attack. That was the energy I was feeling.”

We’ve see this phenomenon on DL from DLers who live in NYC who have become completely desensitized to the crime around them.

It doesn't fit their narrative R209 Are these the same people who just a couple of months ago were insisting Biden was as sharp as a tack?

I love the Klan Grannies who are too brain poisoned by fear mongering media to even go outside.

Yes, sweetie, there is crime.

You think we should be more authoritarian about it? Fine. Vote Republican. And be prepared to pay more taxes to build more prisons.

Meanwhile, leave the rest of us alone.

[quote] And be prepared to pay more taxes to build more prisons.

I’m okay with that. As many criminals off the streets as possible.

Ok. There's a limited amount of money people are willing to be taxed. So at some point, there will be cuts to schools, libraries, garbage pickup, medical care in order to maintain the prison industry you envision.

[quote] There's a limited amount of money people are willing to be taxed. So at some point, there will be cuts to schools, libraries, garbage pickup, medical care in order to maintain the prison industry you envision.

I’m okay with that. As many criminals off the streets as possible.

"I love the Klan Grannies who are too brain poisoned by fear mongering media to even go outside."

KKKlan Grannies are only fearful of black/brown people committing crimes. Crimes committed by white people get a get-out-of-jail-card, literally and figuratively. See: Trump, Donald.

This is exactly like the bogus jobs report.

[quote]KKKlan Grannies are only fearful of black/brown people committing crimes.

It is the disproportionate number of black/brown people who are victims of violent crime who have the most fear.

Were the shooters wearing MAGA hats? asking for a friend.

The new normal

Another subway stabbing

Love those law and order republican types!

Don't we all R221

and talk about you Klan grannies R221

^^^ your

Another day another slashing

headed in the wrong direction

It’s a happy medium between not living somewhere not too crime ridden, not too deplorable, and not too frauish.

and not too many migrants, homeless or squatters

So a car accident is the immigrants fault somehow? Black people? What?

Chicago still seems to be suffering from violent crime

[Quote] So a car accident is the immigrants fault somehow? Black people? What?

said no one ever

On this past Thursday, two hockey players (one a pro player) in South Jersey were killed while riding their bikes by a white male drunk driver.

Time to round up all the white male drunk drivers and deport them before they cause any more crime.

R231 try to make sense

Nothing makes sense to racist pieces of shit KKKlan Grannies like you, DeFucktardo @R232.

On another weekend long alcohol/meth fueled bender?

r231 let us know when all the white male drunk drivers are mowing people down in every US city every day and night. Thanks.

R234: Too stooopid/lazy to Google anything.

r235 you're not making sense

R233 sounds self-descriptive.

Last weekend in Chicago:

"At least 33 shot, 6 fatally, in weekend gun violence across city, police say" ABC News

This weekend so far only 3 killed and 19 wounded.

See? Crime IS down!

I'm not sure what the obsessive Crime Queen's point is.

Should we get rid of all the guns?

Get rid of all the black people?

All the immigrants?

Are you just trying to say (over and over and over and over) that NYC is a shit hole?

Are you trying to say that Democratic-run cities are lawless? Ok, let's say you're correct. What then? Should we burn them all down? Impose martial law?

What is your point?

6 people were shot after gunfire erupted along the New York Caribbean Carnival parade route on Monday, police said. The suspect is described as a male 6'2" to 6'3" slim build. wearing back bandana, brown shirt, who fled Westbound on Eastern Parkway towards Classon Avenue, police said.

The 23-year-old was shot in the chest Saturday afternoon after a failed attempted armed robbery by who police say was a 17-year-old from Tracy.

The Klan Grannie thing is played out. There is tremendous pressure in the black and brown communities to get tough on crime. One of the reasons Trump was doing better with those groups before Kamala was his law and order stance In fact Kamala should lean in hard on her prosecutor background. It’s a big change from the BLM days and Dems seem to get that.

Two women of colour killed by a white drunk driver in Nashville a few weeks ago. Driver was just finished probation for a previous DUI.

[quote]r242 = It’s a big change from the BLM days and Dems seem to get that.

Ooooh... those big bad BLM days!

What does "Get tough on crime" mean? The NYPD's overtime budget was over $700 million by June1.

That's just overtime.

Not exactly "defund the police."

Is there a connection between the seeming spike in gun crime and the right-wing Supreme Court's assault on any gun control laws?

Or do you not know because the NY Post doesn't talk about it?

It's funny when English people ("two women of colour") seem all invested in Nashville crime statistics

People who don't identify as racists but have racist instincts see more Mexican and mixed up people around and assume therefore more crime is going on.

R247 And they assume correctly

[Quote]Is there a connection between the seeming spike in gun crime and the right-wing Supreme Court's assault on any gun control laws?

How would explain the almost daily occurrence of people being slashed on subways?

– A 16-year-old boy was attacked while riding a southbound No. 2 train in the Bronx early Tuesday morning, according to the NYPD.

Hours after five people were shot during the West Indian Day parade in Brooklyn on Monday, a man was stabbed multiple times near the event, police said.

Weekend update from the City of Brotherly Love

[quote]How would explain the almost daily occurrence of people being slashed on subways?

So its fine that guns are everywhere because people also get stabbed?

This is your logic?

Yeesh

R248 i wipe my ass with the ny post

so none of these published stories about particular crimes are reflected in the statistics? it's all a big organized scam? go apply for the trump campaign, they really need someone who can tell this story.

R253 For local news about NYC, what news sources do you trust?

(^.^) her cooter apparently R255

R246 wow you’re not the sharpest.

Maybe I'm not but I'm not wrong.

Aren't there English crime stats you can hate-jack over?

R258 you’re wrong on every single thing you asserted. I’m surprised you’re doubling down, I’d be too embarrassed if I was you.

Authorities say a man walked into the spa located at 41-39 Kissena Blvd. just after 5:30 p.m. and stabbed a 26-year-old woman multiple times, right in front of customers and workers.

[quote]I’d be too embarrassed if I was you

I'd be embarrassed that I didn't know the subjunctive mood.

It is interesting that all you do is say someone's wrong or crazy or what have you and never say exactly what they're wrong about.

It's almost as if you're a snickering shit stirrer.

On the heels of Chicago, NY is becoming a shooting gallery.

Crime is dropping dramatically!

[quote] Aren't there English crime stats you can hate-jack over?

You don't realize the enormous irony in that statement, do you?

R239, I'm not the obsessive Crime Queen but to answer your incredibly sarcastic and condescending questions, it's quite easy. Repeal all bail reform, actually arrest and charge those who commit crimes and reclassify former felonies (currently misdemeanors) as felonies.

The police are doing their job it's the DAs that are unleashing this hell on the law-abiding citizens. As many of the reports in this thread show, the criminal element is becoming more and more emboldened with zero fear of reprisal.

[quote] The police are doing their job

lol

Typical at R266. Try using facts to back up your "lol."

[quote]The police are doing their job

The NYC police are leaving their job.

And who can blame them....

[quote]I'm not the obsessive Crime Queen

Sure you aren't

[quote]Repeal all bail reform

So you're for throwing anyone accused of any crime at all in prison indefinitely unless they're rich. Got it.

[quote]The police are doing their job

Clearly you don't live in NYC. But how do you know this?

[quote]it's the DAs that are unleashing this hell on the law-abiding citizens

Which DA? The left winger in SF got recalled. Is everything amazing there now? Is it the NYC DA? The one who convicted Trump? Is that why you hate him?

Alvin Bragg the Manhattan DA who sent out a memo his first day announcing all the crimes(he would no longer prosecute.) One of which was farebeating. As a result approximately 50% of bus riders no longer pay and the MTA is in financial chaos. However since refusing to pay is no longer a crime (simple misdemeanor), it isn’t included in crime numbers. See how easy that is. I won’t even start On the full list of crimes that aren’t crimes anymore.

Oh well here’s a few more…shoplifting, trespassing, resisting arrest, prostitution you get the idea.

and quite a few of these

[quote] However since refusing to pay is no longer a crime (simple misdemeanor), it isn’t included in crime numbers

What are you talking about R270? A misdemeanor is a type of crime.

The cops are doing their job? Really? Every time I see them, they're all standing around in a circle, probably clocking OT, chatting with each other or playing Candy Crush on their phone.

Meanwhile their bosses are busy doing podcasts or tweeting out insane shit. Their union bosses get arrested for embezzlement and the cops themselves park literally anywhere they want.

This is what the $800M in overtime buys?

[quote]The cops are doing their job? Really? Every time I see them, they're all standing around in a circle, probably clocking OT, chatting with each other or playing Candy Crush on their phone.

They're always doing that on the 6th @ 68th. But it's ok because I can look at them and salivate over their big round asses.

R269, I'm sorry to disappoint you but no, I am not the "obsessive Crime Queen" (I just love how you capitalize those words to give that person a title.) I simply refuted some of your assertions at R239. I'm watching ABC7 Eyewitness News right now. They're reporting they've identified the body of a woman who was found in a suitcase on Long Island. Look it's spreading! Oh, joy!

You have such a rigid myopic progressive view of such issues that you assume anyone who is opposed to criminals being released back into society with a mere slap on the wrist must be a Trump supporter. Sorry to disappoint you but I'm a registered, moderate Dem and I will be voting for Kamala in November. So please, move to the middle because that's how most sane Americans vote.

There was a study done several years ago that found people who get most of their information from watching TV news shows tended to be more paranoid overall.

See R265/ R276 as a prime example.

Thanks, R277. I've found that those who offer little to no value in a thread often rely on insults. For example, referring to those with whom they disagree as "KKKlan Grannie".

I'll just leave this here: Ad hominem attacks are commonly used by those who do not have the intellectual capacity to debate the topic at hand. It would seem you're more like Donald Trump than you'd care to admit.

There’s a big opinion piece in the NYT today about putting more cops on buses and trains. To stop farebeating which is bankrupting the MTA. This is considered real out of the box thinking by the NYT. Many misdemeanors in NYC are no longer dealt with as low level crimes. Bragg even included resisting arrest in that group. The good news is that most people in NYC are in touch with reality. Expect a progressive bloodbath the next election as long as some sane moderates run in the primaries.

Lefty DiBlasio wreaked havoc on NYC and policing:

[quote]There was a study done several years ago that found people who get most of their information from watching TV news shows tended to be more paranoid overall.

There's a study that's done every fucking day by people who live in NYC and it shows that crime is all over the place and the subway is getting more and more dangerous.

Oh, there's another study that shows that basement dwelling shut-in in flyover shitholes think everything about crime in NYC is made up because they've never been there and have no idea what the fuck is going on in NYC in 2024.

"Ad hominem attacks are commonly used by those who do not have the intellectual capacity to debate the topic at hand."

The last thing you, and people like you, want is a debate. You're only interested in forcing your viewpoint on others, like any run of the mill authoritarian asshole. If you don't succeed the first time in landing a punch, you repeat the same bullshit lie over and over again ad nauseum.

Very Roy Cohn-ish like if you ask me. And you know who Roy Cohn's protege was?

Hey r282 come visit NYC and tell us all how the crime stats are just made up.

Take the 6 from 68th down to 23rd and let us know how lovely the trip is. We'll be waiting for you to get back to us.

R279 apparently one cop alone made over $400,000 last year in overtime. That’s 138,000 subway fares. There’s your MTA money :)

Paranoid Crime Queens use an article from 4 years ago to attack a mayor who isn't mayor anymore.

This is the lofty intellectual debate they crave.

Stories on crime in NYC are true. NYC is a big place and some people there are gonna do bad things.

The problem is that we've had the regime they seem to advocate - Giuliani and Bloomberg gave the cops billions of dollars of city tax money and let them do anything they want.

They may point to those years as a Golden Era (and maybe it was for some) but what they don't want to grapple with is the way millions of black and brown New Yorkers had to live. The constant stops. The constant frisking. The incarceration for long periods of time with no charges.

These citizens and their allies had enough of that and voted to stop it.

The Crime Queens should get together a coalition of paranoid property owners (it shouldn't be that hard) and vote in an authoritarian mayor who hates the Constitution and will cut schools and libraries and street cleaning to fund prisons and copa.

R283: please get the mental/emotional health care you so desperately need.

Hey r286 you can ride the 6 anytime.

I ride the 6 all the time. It’s fine.

LoL, r283, you aren't fooling anybody.

r289 I just got home (in a neighborhood you could never afford) from riding the 6 and it's as nasty as ever.

Stop complaining, r290. If you don't like it...move.

Breaking news.

Somehow this became a thread on crime in NYC and nowhere else. I'm going to reiterate what I wrote earlier, because apparently the person linking all these crimes didn't get it the first time or is mathematically challenged. NYC metropolitan area is 20,000,000 people. One out of every 15 people in the US lives there. NYC could have 5 violent murders a day, and still it would have a low violent crime rate per capita. Maybe Mayberry RFD might only have one murder per year. But because its population is 2,000, it would have a higher violent crime rate per capita than NYC, which, by the way, had 386 murders in 2023 (about one a day). Maybe this is beyond your comprehension, but 1 a day out of 20,000,000 is a lot less per capita than 1 per year out of a population of 2000. (Your odds of being murdered in NYC per year would be 1 out of 51,000, vs 1 out of 2000 in Mayberry.). FOX news and the NY Post might not spin it that way, but that is the correct way to analyze it, not by flooding this thread with the latest daily outrageous crime in NYC, taken from the headlines of the Post. If I need to, I'll cut and paste this answer over and over every time someone links another crime story from NYC. FAIR WARNING.

Well r293 you've explained it all. I guess we don't have to worry about crime in NYC anymore!

[quote] If I need to, I'll cut and paste this answer over and over every time someone links another crime story from NYC. FAIR WARNING.

You're not the boss of DL, dear.

A man was shot outside a CTA Blue Line station late Thursday night in Logan Square on the Northwest Side.

The attack comes on the heels of several shootings and a stabbing that have happened on trains or near CTA stations this week.

But r293 what if the articles aren't from the NY Post? Will your self-aggrandizing sense of righteousness be put on pause, in that case?

r294 - Again, move.

r298 - Again, fuck off.

PHILADELPHIA (WPVI) -- A 16-year-old has been charged with the murders of both a West Philadelphia rapper and another teenager.

The teen also faces charges in four other shootings just last month.

The age of the criminals is about the only thing that has dropped dramatically

Some people don't report or are afraid of the police. Crime stats are not reliable. Ask the people in the neighborhoods who live there and they will tell you what it is actually like.

[R294] - Again, move.

R294/R299 are just like the MAGAts living in West Virginia/Kentucky/Ohio: they're miserable fucks because pappy and grand-pappy were all coal miners, so naturally they should be coal miners as well, never mind there is no need any more for coal. So, rather than move and/or take advantage of job training offered to them, they'll blame everybody else for their problems, rather than get off their fat asses and do something.

How quaint r302. I'm actually on the UES right now and about to go to the gym.

Why does the fact that crime in NYC has risen trigger people who like to pretend it's not a huge issue? It's odd.

Violent crime down, but shoplifting has been steadily surging.

R304 They're denial. Like if anyone says anything against Kamala Harris they get triggered. It's irrational.

*In denial

Community rallies against Brooklyn gun violence, demanding action and healing

In the wake of several tragic shootings this week in Brooklyn, the community came together Friday to take a stand against the senseless gun violence they said is plaguing their neighborhoods.

The demonstration follows a series of shootings in the borough, including a fatal incident on Labor Day near Eastern Parkway and Franklin Avenue that left one person dead and four others injured. On Wednesday, two men were wounded in a shooting on Park Place, and later that same night, a man was shot and killed inside the Rockaway Avenue train station, according to investigators

R306 are they the same people who just a couple of months ago insisted that Joe Biden was sharp as a tack!

[Quote] I'm actually on the UES right now and about to go to the gym.

Sounds exciting but unless you're taking the limo be careful crossing the street

[quote]In the wake of several tragic shootings this week in Brooklyn, the community came together Friday to take a stand against the senseless gun violence they said is plaguing their neighborhoods.

I just shows you how gullible and out of touch with the truth these people are.

Someone has got to tell them: violent crime is dropping dramatically!

They didn't get the memo.

Ah - the paranoid crime freaks are also the anti cycling freaks.

R293 The old buzzards here don’t do arithmetic, which is funny because on other threads they are busy fainting over how illiterate Gen-whatever kids are.

[Quote] the paranoid crime freaks

He’s not a paranoid crime freak. He’s a pre-programmed rightwing culture warrior.

Red state cities have the highest crime rates but all he does is megaphone crime in cities he doesn’t like because they’re liberal cities.

from the anti-cycling freaks at the NY Times

Last year was the deadliest year for cyclists in New York City since 1999, according to new data from the city’s Department of Transportation. Most of the 30 cyclists who died in 2023 were riding electric bikes, which have proliferated on city streets in recent years. A total of 23 people died riding e-bikes, which is more than double the previous record for e-bike fatalities.

Interesting article R316, this sounds promising.

[quote] Despite this uptick, the rate of cyclist fatalities and serious injuries as a share of all bike trips has been trending downward for many years, suggesting that riding a bicycle in New York City has become safer over the long term. As of 2022, the rate of deaths and severe injuries was about 16 per 10 million bike rides, according to the preliminary data — down from about 34 per 10 million rides a decade earlier.

[quote]Red state cities have the highest crime rates but all he does is megaphone crime in cities he doesn’t like because they’re liberal cities.

Lots of us live in NYC, this is a NYC-centric board. How many DLers live in fucking Oklahoma?

The crime in NYC has risen remarkably in recent years, if you actually lived there you would know this and you would know we talk about it constantly.

[quote]Red state cities have the highest crime rates

The cities are ALL governed by Dems.

Every last one of them.

[quote]Lots of us live in NYC, this is a NYC-centric board

LoL, r318, no it isn't. Bless your heart.

[quote]you would know we talk about it constantly

No, *you* talk about it constantly. How many posts do you have in this thread compared to others? Your righteous indignation isn't fooling anybody.

r320 there are tons of NYers on this board. And NYers talk about crime in the city all the time. Just last night at dinner we had a big debate about it. I don't know where you live but you're certainly not in the NY area.

[quote][R320] there are tons of NYers on this board

"Ton"s...LoL.

r322 your bitterness is palpable.

[quote]r323 = [R322] your bitterness is palpable.

*You're* the one with nothing but complaints.

Another typical weekend in Chicago