Pete

Yes, the better person is someone who will appeal to swing state voters/old white men. I can't get past that he took 6 months leave in the middle of Covid. The "best person" would not do that.

I honestly believe that he's gay matters only the context that he's inexperienced. He is 42. He has tons of time to build a track record. He is not presidential, he's just a formidable talker.

And yes, at present, there's about four other people who are better as VP. Three of them govern states and have electoral and governing track records.

Sorry, Pete's problem isn't that he's gay. Your problem seems to be though.

Oh great. Another Pete thread.

Knock it off, OP. Keep it in any of the multiple existing threads.

He's all hype and no substance. Like a more polished Beto O'Rourke.

There is a better person: anyone who could sweep the votes that Pete wouldn't get because he's gay.

Pete is only 42. He would still be relatively young as a president even if he had to wait 8 years for a post-Harris term.

Rather than wishful thinking which could wind up alienating too many people to get Harris elected, it may be better that Pete gets a higher profile cabinet spot. He graduated magna cum laude from Harvard and is a Rhode Scholar.

He's been in the military. I wonder whether Secretary of Defense is a possibility. The current one is a retired 4 star general, so he may not be "qualified" in the eyes of seasoned military officers.

Secretary of State?

Treasury is out. I'd prefer Yellen or someone as qualified.

Is there another higher profile one that fits the bill toward becoming a viable presidential candidate in eight years?

R3. Well since the thread is titled “Pete,” you’re the idiot for clicking on it. I’m sure there’s a Real Wives thread that would be more your speed.

OP, the Pete troll, is a good example of someone paying for additional accounts.

Is he really qualified for anything? He majored in history and literature at Harvard.

Then he seems to have jumped around doing various types of work: he did consulting at McKinsey for a few years, then he was in the military, then he worked on some campaigns for other people, then he became Mayor, then he ran for President.

What marketable skills does he have?

He should and will be president. But for now, alas, we must cater to the whims of these ancient generations with their old homophobic AIDS joke prejudices.

I wonder if a single gay guy would have a better chance than one with a guy and kids.

[quote]What marketable skills does he have?

He seems like he has the skill of a con artist, so outside of politics, maybe he could convince people to buy time-shares or invest in Ponzi schemes?

Verificatia?

[quote] He seems like he has the skill of a con artist, so outside of politics,

Most politicians [italic]are[/italic] con artists. I'm surprised some people still think the majority of them go into politics for the principle of it all and not the glory.

[quote]He seems like he has the skill of a con artist, so outside of politics, maybe he could convince people to buy time-shares or invest in Ponzi schemes?

Meghan Markle should hire him to hawk her jams and dog biscuits.

The idea he is qualified at this point for Secretary of State or Defense. Imagine the confirmation hearing.

"The current one is a retired 4 star general, so he may not be "qualified" in the eyes of seasoned military officers."

Gee, do ya fuckin' think?

R17 was your Queen Hillary at any point qualified to be the Senator of New York? I think not. But I don't remember her peers, the Boomers, insisting to sit it out because there were better candidates at the time.

[quote]He graduated magna cum laude from Harvard and is a Rhode Scholar.

Well, you're certainly not.

R11 No, he will never be POTUS. And don't call me Alice.

Alice doesn't live here anymore and neither do Boomers, R21

R19, she was never my queen, you dickstruck dildo, her DL diehards remind me of you: rabid, irrational and starstruck beyond reason. But even I have to acknowledge she had been in a West Wing office and married to the President of the United States for eight years, and according to the great Wikipedia "In 1997 and 1999, Clinton played a leading role in promoting the creation of the State Children's Health Insurance Program, the Adoption and Safe Families Act, and the Foster Care Independence Act.": So, yeah, I would argue she had a little something under her belt. I'd certainly stack that up against four years as Airplane Secretary and a stint as mayor of South Bend, Indiana, yeah. I also give her credit for standing for election and letting the voters decide, which is more than your unicorn has done at the federal level.

Any other questions, dear?

Save your tedium for somebody else who actually gives a fuck, R23.

You certainly make a compelling argument, R11. You should go into politics yourself. The only other person with your level of messaging skills is Trump.

[quote][R17] was your Queen Hillary at any point qualified to be the Senator of New York? I think not. But I don't remember her peers, the Boomers, insisting to sit it out because there were better candidates at the time.

MANY people have suggested that he should run for Congress. But do you see him attempting to do that? No...because he knows he's not electable.

I'll take that as no, R24.

R23 - R26 The attack of the rabid HillBottoms!

Don't forget, boys and girls, it was the Democratic centrists right on here who insisted that Kamala was unelectable because she's a black woman. Now they're revising history.

The hatred. Who knew? For a moment, I thought I was in a Tim O'Tay thread.

OK, well if Hillbottoms is the best you've got, I guess my work here is done.

I leave you with your futile dreams and what I imagine is a small if great chafed penis, pulled in the wrong direction as usual.

The only people who wouldn't vote for him because he's gay are the deplorable who aren't voting for Kamala anyway.

R31 why shouldn't you be called HillBottom in the same way that progressives are called Bernie Bros?

You both ignore that most Democrats are somewhere in between the Centrists and the Progressives. You just represent bookend extremes within the same party.

Yet another Pete thread.

It's not going to happen, guys. Maybe in 2050 (I'm optimistic) but not now.

So the sole reason that you think he would be a great president is because he's "brilliant?"

[quote]It's not going to happen, guys. Maybe in 2050 (I'm optimistic) but not now.

Will there be surgery available then to de-rat his face?

Ouch! r36 LOL

He is not rodent faced. Elon Musk's kid OTOH...🐭

R36 given that half the American population prefers sphincter-mouths and decrepit mummies, Pete's looks shouldn't come into play too much.

He should run for the state house in MI -- if he can win.

I mean, he is a carpetbagger, after all.

[quote]I can't get past that he took 6 months leave in the middle of Covid. The "best person" would not do that.

WTF are you talking about? [bold]Covid was during the failed Trump administration.[/bold] Pete never took a 6 month vacation. He took a few weeks off for paternally leave because there were serious health issues with the kids in the hospital. he was available 24/7 on issues even during that time.

R22 Stupidity Confirmed

It's paternity leave, you dolt.

[quote]So the sole reason that you think he would be a great president is because he's "brilliant?"

So the sole reason that you think Trump would be a great president is because he's a reality star?

Could there be a better person than Pete to be VP? CHANDLER BING LIVES.

I'm all for Pete as VP and he's quite well liked by most Americans.

Pete is definitely a better choice than Shapiro, R44.

They will never make a black man with the middle name Hussein President, they will never nominate a black woman because she's a woman, Oh wait. But a gay man, that's just a bridge too far? Maybe for Dee Plorable and MAGA who already are voting for Dump, but most people with common sense dont have major issues with gay men anymore.

Boomers and half of Gen X will have to be dead before a gay man can get elected on a national level in this stupid fucking backward ignorant country.

R47 It's time to stop following Baby Boomer 1980s rhetoric! They lost the plot and only care about themselves, anyhow.

Agree with R46, I would say Shapiro's issues with being so extreme with his views of Israel are much worse than Pete being gay.

Shapiro will drive away young voters and conversely, Pete will draw them in so it's a Plus/Plus equation if she were to pick Pete for VP.

You people keep hiding behind the gay... it's not his sexuality, it's his lack of a track record. You're just so dicky whipped you can't think critically.

Also, he's never gonna fuck you.

[quote]They will never make a black man with the middle name Hussein President, they will never nominate a black woman because she's a woman, Oh wait. But a gay man, that's just a bridge too far?

Yeah, it actually is!

You yass kweens need to get out of your coastal bubbles and see what most of the US is like.

R53 you need a time travel machine and need to get yourself out of your 1989 bubble.

r54 half of America wants to go back to 1959.

90% of American doesn't even know WTF 1959 was actually like outside of Happy Days reruns, R55.

OP Heres your challenge: List 3 reasons why Buttigieg would be a good choice for POTUS. Don't be vague ("he's brilliant...he's presidential...it's time..) Don't use the word Gay. I'm open to your argument. Go.

Oh do STFU, Boomer R51. Here's a quote from you and what you hope happens in American politics. More political hegemony from an absolute epic failure of a political generation. But please. Let's get more Boomer politicians out there to fuck things up for subsequent generations:

[quote] The tail end of the boom is just turning 60. They'll be running things for another fifteen years, at least.

R10, intelligent people have the mental agility to approach and learn various disciplines. It's not a default. Dullards have to pick a single lane and hope to master it.

R58: stupid and stalker crazy.

He won't fuck you.

Boomers will always have more of everything than you ever will.

Also, R58, your jealousy tastes wonderful on our dividends. Mwah!

r56 you're not too bright.

R60 so calling you out on what you, yourself, have posted is 'stalking.' What a whiny MARY!

Have fun organizing golf trips and STI checks at the Villages in Florida. That's more the speed of your generation these days.

Mwah! Yum, yum, yum.

[quote] Boomers will always have more of everything than you ever will.

Including assholes and cunts apparently.

Being intelligent is not highly desired quality for a President to have?

The MAGAvers and it's ilk have infested the DL with their celebration of simpleton stupidity.

Aren't you late for one of your three Mcjobs?

It's not the year to get a gay guy on the ticket, we just need to fucking beat Trump.

Gov. Beshear or Mark Kelly are winners.

I love that your insults are as fresh as 1991, R67.

Meh. He's like a high school chemistry teacher. I don't know where he came from or where he's going, but he's not ready for prime time.

Not this time OP. But keep the faith.

Who do you prefer, R70?

R67, how's that McRib sandwich doing?

R73, it's lodged up R60's prolapsed asshole.

[quote]Meh. He's like a high school chemistry teacher. I don't know where he came from or where he's going, but he's not ready for prime time.

Really? Did your high school chem teacher serve in the military? Serve as a Mayor? Serve as Secretary of Transpiration with a 1 Trillion dollar budget? Speak 6 languages? Rhodes scholar? Or how about a household name who is now kind of famous taking on Faux News like no other Democratic politician seems to be able to do?

Pete is in his prime and now is his time.

R75, R70's high school chemistry teacher was an ugly brute with a bushy mustache and room-temperature IQ. Pay no mind to him.

#72, I'm currently leaning toward Tim Walz. National guard, agriculture, a former school teacher, defeated a 6-termer to become a Representative, became Governor... He has an earthy midwest style and wicked sense of humor. Imagine a debate with him? He's fearless. Kamala scares them; Tim will soothe them.

The Department of Transportation’s budget is less than $100b. Not even the Pentagon has a $1t budget.

What a strange turn this thread has taken.

Nice, R77! I personally prefer more youth on the ticket, since Kamala even getting chosen was an indictment on the Democrat's aging problem.

Baby Boomers and Gen Xers are and feel very involved in the Democratic process and have been for the last 30 years. The younger generations don't feel that. They aren't involved or heard and they feel smacked down and alienated by the elders who discredit all of their concerns. And so I think this is a tremendous chance to ameliorate some of that, to extend an olive branch out to some of our most alienated voters.

In fairness, R79, the premise doesn't deserve to be taken seriously.

I guess he could be the pothole czar. Ride his bike around filling them.

Tim and Kamala are the same age

Too bad Tim looks like he lived through WWI, R83.

But is he brilliant, R77? Could he be Secretary of State?

If not Pete, please let is be Beshear. Enough with the Baby Boomers and oldest Gen Xers who are essentially just Diet Coke Boomers.

[quote]The Department of Transportation’s budget is less than $100b. Not even the Pentagon has a $1t budget.

As apposed to your Chem teacher's budge for school pencils and protractors. Circia 1979

By all means, let's keep catering to the straight Boomer and Gen X MAGA demographic who dropped AIDS jokes back in the 80s and 90s.

Because that's how Democrats should roll. Kissing the ass of homophobes and MAGAs.

I am an older Gen Xer R86, I am 100% on board with Pete. We need younger people to take the reins. We are not all like Boomers. That's an insult to many of us.

Has Pete been nominated yet?

Most of MAGA has very little to do with generational thing, I have seen a lot of younger people at those rallies. It's more of a lack of college thing. College educated white males lean Democrat, those with just high school or less MAGA, MAGA, MAGA.

Has Kamala been nominated yet?

Didn't think so either.

R58?

Who got 18-year-olds the right to vote? Yes, it was the (evil!) Boomers.

Who started the Women's Rights Movement? Right again, it was the (horrrible!) Boomers.

Who started the Gay Liberation Movement? I know, you guessed it this time: it was the (now-decrepit!) Boomers.

And who fought and championed the right to medications against AIDS, and faced the stigma of the "gay cancer"? Yes, gay Boomers. Speaking of people who sacrificed their lives for you...

If you were ever taught history, or actually learned anything anyone older than you was [italic]trying[/italic] to teach you, you'd already know these things.

Instead, you disparage us, your gay forefathers/mothers any chance you get -- on a gay website, no less!! You should be ashamed of yourselves.

Next time you take your PrEP, or vote as an 18-year-old, or aren't drafted into the military, or hold hands with your boyfriend walking down the street, thank a dead gay Boomer. And have a little respect.

^ Bingo.

r93 the 80s changed the Boomers into the greedy pigs they've been ever since.

Some of those didn't age well R93

[quote] Who got 18-year-olds the right to vote? Yes, it was the (evil!) Boomers.

Yeah, not because they cared about other people, they cared because THEY would have to go to war and had no power to vote against that.

[quote]Who started the Women's Rights Movement? Right again, it was the (horrrible!) Boomers.

Women's right to vote was granted in 1920 after 100 years of protest. Boomers never got an Equal Rights Amendment fully passed in congress even as of today.

[quote]And who fought and championed the right to medications against AIDS, and faced the stigma of the "gay cancer"? Yes, gay Boomers. Speaking of people who sacrificed their lives for you...

No Dear, people did not sacrifice their lives, they died because they had no other choice. They fought for medications to save their own lives. They were also the generation that help spread AIDS like wild fire.

R95, I don't think they changed, they were always greedy fucks. That's why they were called the "ME" generation. It's just that when they were young they wanted different things like experimenting with copious amounts of drugs, unlimited sexual promiscuity, avoiding the draft, not wanting to work in "square" jobs.

Then when they got older, "greed Is good" became their thing with a focus on how much money they could make for themselves at the cost of everyone and rest of society. They celebrated being called YUPPIES (young upwardly mobile professionals) obsessed with material objects and financial success.

Now that they are all in retirement, or should be, they still wont let go of power many working into their 70's and 80s. You know, to "keep busy".

" They were also the generation that help spread AIDS like wild fire." Fuck you, r96 and your no doubt unfuckable, ugly ass. I'm younger than that era, but this is such a distortion of what happened that you should be banned from this site for evil homophobia. HIV can have a really long latency period. Many of those death warrants were signed years in advance without the knowledge we have today. How would you like to die for a hookup you had maybe even ten years earlier? Just kidding, no one would touch your ugly ass.

People not voting for him has nothing to do with being gay. Many people just feel he’s unlikable and not particularly qualified. If he’s so electable, why did he lose so many elections he ran for in Indiana?

In fairness, he's only lost two runs - the presidential nomination and state treasurer. He won all his elections for Mayor of South Bend. So it's a natural jump from those milestones to President, Secretary of State or Valedictorian.

[quote]If he’s so electable, why did he lose so many elections he ran for in Indiana?

Because Indiana is a piece of shit redneck hellhole. I've been there. It's horrifying.

R101, counties in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania that are needed for a Harris victory, you would also consider POS redneck hellholes. Now that you have established that Pete can’t win there, it’s even more easy to rule him out.

They need to stop trying to make this guy happen.

He's the CIA fluffer's choice. He's a desperate goof and an total embarrassment.

[quote]People not voting for him has nothing to do with being gay. Many people just feel he’s unlikable

That's complete BS. let's be brutally honest, the only people who don't like him are MAGA an the homophobic blacks where he was Mayor because he forced out the city’s first black police chief, who had been accused of illegally recording his officers, some of whom were said to have made racist remarks.

Pete has a massive likeability rating outside that small hate group.

[quote]Pete has a massive likeability rating

He does not.

Yes he does, times have change. I brought receipts.

He's good talking about the failures of other people

Pete is more popular with Americans than Nancy Pelosi or that old crow Madeleine Albright:

Though not in South Bend R109

No one cares about South Bend R110. Give it up already.

[quote] Pete is more popular with Americans than Nancy Pelosi or that old crow Madeleine Albright:

Congratulations to Pete for being more popular than a dead woman!

The point is South Bend doesn't care for their former mayor, dear.

[Quote] No one cares about South Bend [R110]. Give it up already.

neither did Mayor Pete which was the problem

Again, the point is no one cares what South Bend thinks, the rest of the country is entitled to their own views which do not have to be filtered through some tiny little town.

Donald Trump, George W. Bush, George HW Bush, Andrew Jackson, and even Abraham Lincoln all became President without winning their home state.

R116 what do you mean by home state? Trump was never the Governor of any state. Just to let you know

Kamala met with Pete today for about 90 minutes as part of the vetting process. She will be meeting with the others over the weekend.

[quote] what do you mean by home state? Trump was never the Governor of any state. Just to let you know

R117, home state means home state.

[quote] Kamala met with Pete today for about 90 minutes as part of the vetting process. She will be meeting with the others over the weekend.

The first five minutes was her trying to find a gentle way to tell him he’s not the pick. The rest of the time was her trying to get him to stop crying.

[quote]Kamala met with Pete today for about 90 minutes as part of the vetting process. She will be meeting with the others over the weekend.

First in, first out.

So, what's the point R119? NY was Hillary's home state as well. There were a number of states Trump didn't win as well.

R121, I thought everyone was saying Pete is a long shot? An outsider? Now she's vetting him? Seems to me he's not so long of a shot if she's taking time to do that.

You are missing the point R122, Pete haters keep trying to say he's undetectable because he's unpopular in South Bend. But as posted above, many Presidents were just as unpopular in their own states and still won the election.

You see what you want to see, R123. You'll still be pushing him long after she's moved on with a winner.

Perhaps r125, but you also seem to have a blind spot.

Better a blind spot than a brain death, saddo.

R124 You're missing the point. Pete made a point of his hometown experience when he ran in 2020.He relied on his record as Mayor. Trump never referenced NY.

[quote]Kamala met with Pete today for about 90 minutes as part of the vetting process.

He arrived with a plate of cookies that Chasten had baked the night before. She told him that she had never seen chocolate chip cookies with sprinkles before.

He was like: Do you not like sprinkles? Because I'm happy to talk you through how I'll get rid of the guy who made them.

R115 South Bend has a population of 100 thousand. By no definition is that 'some tiny little town'

Good point. Those suggestion he get defense or state if he's not the veep are starting to make a lot more sense now.

Biden said Pete reminds him of his son Beau.

"Pete reminds me so much of Beau. If Beau were still alive and sucked cock."

When I watch clips of Pete tearing it up on Fox News the comments are all "I love this guy, I'd be proud to call Pete my president" and "Pete for VP please, Kamala!" and "I hope to live to see Pete Buttiegieg as President of the United States of America one day" and "I cannot get enough of Mayor Pete clips!" and "What a brilliant man" and on and on and on. I understand there can be a bit of an echo chamber situation when the clips are MSNBC but it's also Fox and it's HUNDREDS of positive comments and hundreds of thousands if not millions of views per clip. The guy is achieving "household name" status and he's become very beloved by many, many many, people. It is what it is. Don't shoot the messenger. He has a wholesomeness about him that people find comfort in. He is articulate and he can give voice to the bullshit we all detect, and he validates our observations which reduces the burden of gaslighting we all labor under every day due to Donnie Diapers. He's a hit.

Even if Pete doesn't get the nod, I bet she wants him to stay with her. IMO, putting him right in the White House would be a real smart move. Chief of staff. He'd be perfect.

People can still be homophobes and like Pete. How many times have you seen racists talk about how much they like Denzel...or remember O.J.? Same thinking applies.

House boy for the White House.

You're totally full of shit R137 - even for you.

And people can be racists but that is no EXCUSE to say oh, we cant try that now, too much is at stake. Lets just nominate another old white man instead of Kamala. Because people are still racist, especially swing voters. See how that works?

R135 is correct, I have seen that too. There is a lot of enthusiasm behind Pete outside the DL bubble. Mostly from straight people. Don't listen to the cranky old queens with self loathing issues on this site as an indicator of how the rest of the country thinks. Their hyperbolic hand wringing about making him VP "at your own peril" is so over the top, it almost sounds like a threat from Russia. Something Tucker would say about Democrats.

And Pete would bring more excitement to the ticket than any other candidate other than Andy Beshear. And that's what the campaign is all about right now, keeping the excitement alive until election day. Moving forward, not backward.

[quote][R115] South Bend has a population of 100 thousand. By no definition is that 'some tiny little town'

Most of that population is Notre Dame students.

[quote]Pete is more popular with Americans than Nancy Pelosi or that old crow Madeleine Albright:

If Pete held elected office, his popularity would plummet. We see how he was viewed in South Bend, the only place he has ever won an election.

South bend was a blacks hate new white guy in office thing. Lets be honest.

[Quote] Most of that population is Notre Dame students.

R143 South Bend is a city with a population of 103 thousand. Notre Dame is a mid-size institution with an enrollment of 8,953 undergraduate students. Notre Dame University is located in Portage Township, Indiana. Only 21% of students live off campus.

He had better hope for a Cabinet position, because Ms. Chasten is never going back to Michigan.

if he's not Kamala's VP pick, I assume Pete will continue in his current cabinet position R147 if she wins.

If I were Pete I would want something more substantial. I mean he gave the Transportation Department stature and relevance thank goodness. But I would love to see him deal with the Environment or Energy policy too. IMO if he stays on, He ought to be her Chief of Staff. He would be perfect.

I dont know, if she wins, she's tetchily a brand new President who is to bring in her own entire staff. She could offer him the same job, but does not have to.

The Cabinet tenders their resignations on Inauguration Day.

She’ll be choosing her own new Cabinet members. George HW Bush certainly didn’t keep all of Reagan’s people in their positions.

Does Kamala have anything for Chelsea?