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Mugshot: Police Officer Sean Grayson, who shot Sonya Massey in the face

He’s a big, hefty ginger, who bounced between 5 different police stations since 2021 like a spurious priest.

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by Anonymousreply 93July 29, 2024 4:32 PM

Two DUIs, too.

What a piece of shit.

by Anonymousreply 1July 23, 2024 5:48 PM

What a piece of shit.

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by Anonymousreply 2July 23, 2024 5:49 PM

The worst part, is I want to suck his dick. Forgive me father for I have sinned.

He's a monster but a hot monster. Wonder how he will do in prison? I guess the Aryan Brotherhood may give him a a probationary entrance since he killed a black woman. Though they hate cops. There was a hot Nifty story about corrupt cops ending up in prison and bitched out like an episode of Oz.

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by Anonymousreply 3July 23, 2024 5:50 PM

How soon before they discover links to white supremacists? The dumb ox looks the part.

by Anonymousreply 4July 23, 2024 5:51 PM

Why was he so hostile from the get go? The body cam footage is scary.

He also dissuaded his partner from applying first aid. I mean, you never know.

by Anonymousreply 5July 23, 2024 5:51 PM

Kamala Harris:

Sonya Massey deserved to be safe. After she called the police for help, she was tragically killed in her own home at the hands of a responding officer sworn to protect and serve. Doug and I send strength and prayers to Sonya’s family and friends, and we join them in grieving her senseless death.

Our thoughts are also with the communities across our nation whose calls for help are often met with suspicion, distrust, and even violence. The disturbing footage released yesterday confirms what we know from the lived experiences of so many – we have much work to do to ensure that our justice system fully lives up to its name.

I join President Biden in commending the swift action of the State’s Attorney’s Office and in calling on Congress to pass the George Floyd Justice in Policing Act, a bill that I coauthored in the Senate. In this moment, in honor of Sonya’s memory and the memory of so many more whose names we may never know, we must come together to achieve meaningful reforms that advance the safety of all communities.

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by Anonymousreply 6July 23, 2024 5:54 PM

A perfect statement r6. Doesn't bash all cops. It addresses the concern, and says the victim's name, while showing that Harris has been on the ball with this for years. Good job to the campaign!

by Anonymousreply 7July 23, 2024 5:56 PM

R3, really? Is it the thought of him smacking you around? Get some help please.

by Anonymousreply 8July 23, 2024 5:59 PM

Spurious Priest is my new porn name

by Anonymousreply 9July 23, 2024 6:03 PM

He looks stinky

by Anonymousreply 10July 23, 2024 6:05 PM

God DAMN. He just flat out murdered her. What a fucking demon. The police force needs to pay HUGE for hiring him AND it better come out of their pension, not the city.

by Anonymousreply 11July 23, 2024 6:06 PM

Mama's Mussy must be Niagara Falls right about now.

by Anonymousreply 12July 23, 2024 6:13 PM

OP, spurious priest is an awesome line! Would make a great band name.

by Anonymousreply 13July 23, 2024 6:15 PM

Zero hot

by Anonymousreply 14July 23, 2024 6:16 PM

I don't get it. She literally was about to throw boiling hot water on the police officers that responded to her call. This was after talking to her calmly for quite some time. They had no beef with her. Why are they calling this murder? Can someone explain how someone, going for a pot of boiling water and saying "I rebuke the in the name of Jesus" then says "Sorry" and throws water at officers isn't asking to be killed if not at least hurt?

I didn't watch the video, just the description. What am I missing?

by Anonymousreply 15July 23, 2024 6:24 PM

OP, you can keep him. If I'm gonna get my bussy beat on the regular when he comes home from work in a foul mood, the guy better be a perfect 10.

by Anonymousreply 16July 23, 2024 6:25 PM

I’d fuck him.

by Anonymousreply 17July 23, 2024 6:26 PM

Kamala needs to keep her big mouth shut after Jussie.

by Anonymousreply 18July 23, 2024 6:26 PM

R15, what you’re missing is that the officer who murdered the woman TOLD HER TO GO TO THE STOVE AND TAKE THE POT OFF OF THE BURNER.

She was not trying to throw boiling water on him.

by Anonymousreply 19July 23, 2024 6:27 PM

You just know it’s reddish and kinda small.

by Anonymousreply 20July 23, 2024 6:30 PM

R15 You GD POS cunt. Quit excusing this POS cop. Have you SEEN how many times, in a short amt of time, he bounced from one job to the other? And TWO DUIs?

He told her to take the pot off the stove. She didn’t throw it at them and even if she did, cops used to NEVER be this trigger happy.

Fuck anyone for defending this animal.

by Anonymousreply 21July 23, 2024 6:31 PM

R15, I will also say that he was confrontational with her from the minute she opened the door, asking why it took so long for her to answer his knock (She was putting clothes on) and continued being confrontational with her, the person who had called for help, throughout their interaction.

Fuck you for taking a stance without even bothering to watch the video. It’s low information people like you, slow to listen but quick to opine, that’s put this country in the place it finds itself.

by Anonymousreply 22July 23, 2024 6:31 PM

R22 That poster probably just came from FOX where they told him she threw the water at the police. Facts don’t matter.

by Anonymousreply 23July 23, 2024 6:33 PM

r15 "literally"

Oh, dear.

by Anonymousreply 24July 23, 2024 6:33 PM

r15 is a complete idiot. You've embarrassed yourself.

by Anonymousreply 25July 23, 2024 6:34 PM

Everyone please FF R15. They don’t belong in general society, much less on a gay message board.

by Anonymousreply 26July 23, 2024 6:36 PM

R18 Shut your fucking mouth, cunt.

by Anonymousreply 27July 23, 2024 6:37 PM

I know that it’s hard to recruit police officers with what they get paid but why have police and fire departments decided that forearm tattoos, particularly those which feature skulls, are acceptable for what used to be role models?

by Anonymousreply 28July 23, 2024 6:38 PM

R28 They aren’t role models anymore. Anyone, including White people, who think any cop is your friend is in for a rude awakening. They are out of control, full of far right radical toxic sociopaths now. They HATE gay people.

by Anonymousreply 29July 23, 2024 6:40 PM

R29, most have always hated gay people, we know that.

I think it’s because the police forces are populated by a bunch of guys who couldn’t even hack it in the military for more than 4 years and had to take a discharge.

by Anonymousreply 30July 23, 2024 6:42 PM

R30 For a while the profession attracted fairly decent people, depending on where you lived. Sheriff jobs attracted the out and out racists.

by Anonymousreply 31July 23, 2024 6:45 PM

R31, agreed. I belive that’s because police chiefs are hired and sheriffs are, generally, elected. Putting politics into law enforcement is a bad idea, just like judges.

by Anonymousreply 32July 23, 2024 6:48 PM

I ASKED what I am missing for a reason BECAUSE I do not like to watch videos like that. There is enough death and ugliness I stumble across online by accident without needing to welcome it into my brain. I read a description of what happened to her on CNN's website and they make no mention of the cops telling her to turn off the water. That is what I was asking about what am I missing.

"In the footage, deputy Sean Grayson and another deputy speak calmly with Massey in her home when she goes to the stove to turn off a pot of boiling water. She then picks up the pot and the other deputy steps back, “away from your hot steaming water,” he says. “I rebuke you in the name of Jesus,” she says in response. / “Huh?” the deputy says. / “I rebuke you in the name of Jesus,” she repeats. / “You better f**king not or I swear to God I’ll f**king shoot you in the f**king face,” Grayson says. / He then draws his firearm and points it at her, and she ducks and says, “I’m sorry” while lifting the pot, the video shows. / “Drop the f**king pot!” both deputies yell. / Three shots are heard. After a few seconds of silence, one deputy says “shots fired” and calls for emergency medical services. / “Dude, I’m not taking f**king boiling water to the f**king head. And look, it came right to our feet, too,” Grayson says.

That is the full description of the transcript of the video I am not going to watch, according to CNN.

I swear some of you white fuckers are so sensitive and can't talk about anything that might be racially motivated without trying to out-best each other with your self-righteous-white "captain save the world"- indignation. I get it, you're NOT A RACIST. Calm the fuck down.

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by Anonymousreply 33July 23, 2024 6:58 PM

When Jeff Daniels took the potion there were some unexpected side effects.

Psychopathy…

Obesity….

He didn’t take care of himself.

by Anonymousreply 34July 23, 2024 7:02 PM

All due respect to OP, R9, and R13, a 'spurious' priest isn't what gets bounced to different dioceses. Priests who commit sexual abuse and are transplanted still have standing in the Church; they are not in any sense 'spurious' (meaning not genuine or authentic, counterfeit). The Church simply moves them to permit them to escape accusations, and lets them officiate - and presumably offend - somewhere else.

Just as this joker wasn't a 'spurious' cop. He was a real cop.

But the analogy to offending priests who are relocated is correct. It's just that 'spurious' is the wrong word.

by Anonymousreply 35July 23, 2024 7:06 PM

r33 Seek help. Not all of us are white, dumbass.

by Anonymousreply 36July 23, 2024 7:07 PM

That's why I said some weirdo...

by Anonymousreply 37July 23, 2024 7:09 PM

R15/33/black guy - where did you read in the transcript that she actually threw hot water at him?

Also I am sure a police officer cursing and yelling at her while pointing a gun made this woman nervous so that she did not respond to his request fast enough to his liking.

But whatever!

by Anonymousreply 38July 23, 2024 7:34 PM

I haven't heard about this case, but when I googled him, I was going to post how hot he is.

Thankfully, I watched the video at R2 first.

This man really is evil.

There was absolutely no excuse in the world, for him to do what he did.

None.

Even if he felt threatened, he didn't have to shoot her in the face. But that was clearly his intent, because it was the first thing he said to her, once he escalated the situation.

In terms of motive, I think that 1st Degree Murder is the appropriate charge, because his intent to kill BEFORE he took the shot, was very clear.

by Anonymousreply 39July 23, 2024 7:37 PM

Yeah R15, you formed and expressed an opinion, against the victim, which is not at all evidenced by the transcript you later posted.

And you happen to be a black guy.

Fuck off back to Twitter, or has some “Disregard all previous instructions”-ed your troll accounts there?

by Anonymousreply 40July 23, 2024 7:38 PM

[quote]Forgive me father for I have sinned.

Nuh uh. Not gonna do that. There ARE limits.

by Anonymousreply 41July 23, 2024 7:41 PM

You're telling me that this HUGE man was so threatened by this skinny little woman (who looks about half his size), that he had to shoot her in the face?

No fucking way.

I hope this fucker gets life in prison.

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by Anonymousreply 42July 23, 2024 7:42 PM

[quote] He looks stinky

He wears a colostomy bag. You can bet there's an odor.

by Anonymousreply 43July 23, 2024 7:43 PM

[quote] He wears a colostomy bag

What??

Where did you get that information from?

by Anonymousreply 44July 23, 2024 7:45 PM

If you watch the other body cam video she did indeed throw boiling water at them. You can see it splashing onto the floor. Not that it justifies shooting her, though. I would've just ran away. Woman seemed to be having a mental episode. Psycho trigger happy cops and mental cases don't mix well.

by Anonymousreply 45July 23, 2024 7:55 PM

[quote]Where did you get that information from?

From here: R44 "Judge denies request for bail

Defense attorney Dan Fultz requested Grayson's release from detainment, telling the court he wasn't a threat to flee and had remained at home since the shooting.

Grayson, who has worked for several other law enforcement agencies in the area, was diagnosed with Stage 3 colon cancer in October. Fultz said Grayson had "a medical incident" overnight with his colostomy bag, another reason he asked that Grayson be released."

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by Anonymousreply 46July 23, 2024 8:00 PM

[quote] OP, spurious priest is an awesome line! Would make a great band name.

Yes! Or the name of a racehorse.

by Anonymousreply 47July 23, 2024 8:01 PM

I didn't see that she threw water according to the transcript. There's water on floor from dropping the pot either before or she was shot, correct? I can't watch the video.

by Anonymousreply 48July 23, 2024 8:19 PM

I saw the video. She ducked down behind the counter. Is he supposed to wait and see what she had planned? Fools die.

This is why law enforcement recruitment is at an all-time low. Whatever you do is wrong, and you might even go to prison for it.

by Anonymousreply 49July 23, 2024 8:19 PM

[quote] I saw the video. She ducked down behind the counter. Is he supposed to wait and see what she had planned? Fools die.

[quote] This is why law enforcement recruitment is at an all-time low. Whatever you do is wrong, and you might even go to prison for it.

You're a fucking idiot cunt.

[bold]Grayson, a 30-year-old Riverton, Illinois, resident, had been with the sheriff's department since May 2023 before being terminated by Sheriff Jack Campbell on Wednesday.

Campbell said in a statement that Grayson "did not act as trained or in accordance with our standards" and his actions "do not reflect the values and training of the Sangamon County Sheriff’s Office or law enforcement as a whole."

According to documents, Grayson drew his 9-millimeter gun and threatened to shoot Massey in the face. Grayson "aggressively yelled" for her to put down a pot of boiling water. As Grayson drew close to Massey, he fired three times at about 1:21 a.m., striking her once in the face. Grayson had not activated his body-worn camera until then, though another sheriff's deputy, who has not been named, had his activated after arriving at Massey's house.[/bold]

Even his own SHERIFF said he was wrong, and didn't follow department procedures.

You just want to be a MAGAT contrarian cunt, excusing this asshole's behavior for whatever personal gratification you get from being a disgusting racist.

by Anonymousreply 50July 23, 2024 8:28 PM

Oh, I see Nick Fuentes has joined us @R49.

by Anonymousreply 51July 23, 2024 8:31 PM

[quote] Grayson had not activated his body-worn camera until then, though another sheriff's deputy, who has not been named, had his activated after arriving at Massey's house.

Which is such a good thing, otherwise this horrific scene would not have been documented.

Grayson thought he would get away with it because he didn't turn on his camera, but luckily his partner DID.

by Anonymousreply 52July 23, 2024 8:37 PM

[quote]He wears a colostomy bag What? Where did you get that information from

Various reports have it because it is an excuse his lawyer gave for him not to be jailed.

Grayson’s lawyer said the former deputy is a colon cancer patient who has an ostomy bag which burst overnight and would pose a burden to whatever jail in which he is held.

by Anonymousreply 53July 23, 2024 8:39 PM

R7, apologies as a dumb Brit who expects my politicians actually to do something about shit levels of police training, recruitment and behaviour, but in what way has Kamala "been on the ball with this for years"? Is this another area of American life where the federal government, especially the president, has no involvement or responsibility and it's all down to the states?

by Anonymousreply 54July 23, 2024 8:42 PM

Campbell said the investigation was turned over to Illinois State Police after he was notified on July 6.

[bold]An expert in the field of "use of force" reviewed the body cam footage as part of the state police investigation and concluded that Grayson was not justified in the use of deadly force. The expert "likened the scenario to an officer intentionally and unnecessarily putting himself in front of a moving vehicle and then justifying use of force because of fear of being struck."[/bold]

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by Anonymousreply 55July 23, 2024 8:43 PM

r33 is also:

*The Genius of Joe Biden*

[quote]Trump will be the next president of the United States.

by Anonymousreply 56July 23, 2024 8:47 PM

LoL, r18, do you do anything but troll?

by Anonymousreply 57July 23, 2024 8:50 PM

R49 Maybe an office Grayson type will visit you when you need the police.

Imagine what they got away with before body cams!

by Anonymousreply 58July 23, 2024 8:53 PM

[quote] She ducked down behind the counter. Is he supposed to wait and see what she had planned?

R49 She ducked down because he suddenly and without justification drew his fucking gun on her. He was a good 10 feet or so away from her. Even if she was trying to throw the water at him (and there's no indication that she was), he was far enough away from her that he could have evaded it and prevented most if any of the water from hitting him. He wasn't in any immediate danger. The cam footage does not show her making any move (aggressive or otherwise) before he just unloads his weapon on her. He's a fucking psychopath.

by Anonymousreply 59July 23, 2024 8:56 PM

This is rich for a website that regularly calls for Trump's death.

by Anonymousreply 60July 23, 2024 8:56 PM

As horrifying as he is as a human being I find he was quite convincing in the part of a dog groomer and creator of the Bullshit breed in Dumb and Dumber.

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by Anonymousreply 61July 23, 2024 9:05 PM

That's some impressive retardation, r60. Your mom made the right decision when she decided to homeschool her incest baby. Your dad/uncle must be so proud of you.

by Anonymousreply 62July 23, 2024 9:05 PM

[quote]This is rich for a website that regularly calls for Trump's death.

LoL, r60, you sound like a butt hurt troll.

by Anonymousreply 63July 23, 2024 9:09 PM

Also r60:

*BREAKING: Joe Biden is not seeking re-election - Part 2*

[quote]They've disenfranchised millions of voters. The DNC pushing Biden out is the biggest assault on our democracy since the Civil War. Shame on all of them.

by Anonymousreply 64July 23, 2024 9:11 PM

R60 We call for everyone’s death, cunt.

by Anonymousreply 65July 23, 2024 9:35 PM

She threatened to throw pot of boiling water in his face "In The Name of Jesus" He should've used a Taser.

by Anonymousreply 66July 23, 2024 9:41 PM

[quote] He should've used a Taser.

He SHOULD have.

But this guy never intended to let her out of there alive.

For whatever reason, he wanted to kill her.

It was clear from the moment he showed up on her doorstep.

by Anonymousreply 67July 23, 2024 9:46 PM

“Go stand by the pot so I can shoot you”

He’s insane and afraid of his shadow. Hes HIGH.

by Anonymousreply 68July 23, 2024 9:51 PM

No police ever- EVER will tell you to go to the kitchen. Ever. Also, this wasn’t even a taser needed incident.

by Anonymousreply 69July 23, 2024 9:53 PM

I saw that the second cop goes to cover his camera and quickly thinks better of it.

by Anonymousreply 70July 23, 2024 9:54 PM

Mary. There’s a reason he’s been arrested.

by Anonymousreply 71July 23, 2024 9:55 PM

Your tax dollars at work. All of his arrests and investigations will be revisited, lawsuits will be legion. He is still eligible for his pension?

by Anonymousreply 72July 23, 2024 10:09 PM

Here's the alternate angle. They pull their guns out, then she ducks down, grabs the pot and throws the water at them.

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by Anonymousreply 73July 23, 2024 10:25 PM

What happened? I haven't heard of this one.

by Anonymousreply 74July 23, 2024 10:26 PM

[quote] Grayson’s lawyer said the former deputy is a colon cancer patient who has an ostomy bag which burst overnight and would pose a burden to whatever jail in which he is held.

1. Remove bag, place in bin.

2. Wipe skin and dry skin surrounding stoma.

3. Reapply new bag.

4. Remain in jail.

by Anonymousreply 75July 23, 2024 10:49 PM

Maybe I am looking at the wrong video because I can't see shit with the cop's arm blocking cam.

Grayson is such a dumb shit.

“Dude, I’m not taking f**king boiling water to the f**king head. And look, it came right to our feet, too,” Grayson says.

Minutes after the shooting, Grayson speaks to another law enforcement figure. “She had boiling water and came at me with boiling water,” he says in the video. “She said she was going to rebuke me in the name of Jesus and came at (me) with boiling water.”

by Anonymousreply 76July 23, 2024 10:52 PM

If he were concerned about her throwing boiling water on him, he wouldn’t have told her to attend to the stove. He wanted her to touch the pot so he could use it as an excuse to kill her.

by Anonymousreply 77July 23, 2024 10:54 PM

r76 it happens at 17 seconds. The black circle above her head is the pot turned over, the red things are her oven mitts. I can also see the water hit the corner of the countertop and the floor and steam rising up.

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by Anonymousreply 78July 23, 2024 11:08 PM

That is NOT a reason to shoot someone. JFC. This guy has a horrible record. He wanted to kill her. Period.

by Anonymousreply 79July 23, 2024 11:09 PM

[quote] If he were concerned about her throwing boiling water on him, he wouldn’t have told her to attend to the stove. He wanted her to touch the pot so he could use it as an excuse to kill her.

Same thing I thought when I watched the video.

He TOLD her to turn off the stove.

And then he shot her for touching the boiling water on the stove.

This guy wanted to kill her, and in fact, he told her so.

by Anonymousreply 80July 23, 2024 11:55 PM

I see her pouring the water into the sink, and as she stops to talk to him he shoots her in the head.

by Anonymousreply 81July 24, 2024 1:55 AM

r31 is wrong or white because the police force has ALWAYS acted this way. But if this was 20 years ago, the story would be that she threw boiling water at him and he was defending himself. The cops would rally around this monster and that'd be that. The cameras made cops actions harder to hide, but black and brown complained about police brutality. White people in power didn't give a damn or didn't believe us.

If anything, cops are marginally better today than they were in a free wheeling days before the internet and cell phone cameras. City cops, county sheriffs, state troopers were all the same. Bunch of folks acting like a state sanctioned mob, helping here and destroying there. Anyone pretending cops are suddenly bad is not someone that's taken a moment to look into the horrific history of US cops.

That said, when an emergancy arises, I'm calling 9-1-1 and hoping for the best.

by Anonymousreply 82July 24, 2024 4:00 AM

[quote] if this was 20 years ago, the story would be that she threw boiling water at him and he was defending himself. The cops would rally around this monster and that'd be that

They seem to be rallying around this guy, too.

Unbelievable.

[bold]A large contingent of Massey's family attended the hearing and several people in the courtroom applauded Cadagin's decision. Several members of the Springfield NAACP, the Faith Coalition for the Common Good, and Black Lives Matter Springfield were also in attendance.

A dozen uniformed personnel were in the courtroom with several more deputies in the hallway. Grayson's next hearing is scheduled for Aug. 26.[/bold]

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by Anonymousreply 83July 24, 2024 6:51 AM

R83, according to that article, Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker called the shooting "heartbreaking."

[quote]"I feel," Pritzker said, "not just for the family of the victim, but also the families of Sangamon County and then all people of color who have had to endure these kinds of circumstances and to witness them because it affects everyone, even if it hasn't happened to you specifically."

I ask again as a Brit, if the president, federal government and now also the state governor do not have responsibility over recruitment and training of law enforcement in the US, then exactly who does? In the UK, such an incident would lead to calls for an overhaul of recruitment and training, but in the US it seems it just leads to sanctimonious words and no change.

by Anonymousreply 84July 24, 2024 10:04 AM

I ask again as a Brit, if the president, federal government and now also the state governor do not have responsibility over recruitment and training of law enforcement in the US, then exactly who does?

Police recruitment is usually done locally, although it differs by state.

The Federal Government has nothing to do with hiring officers, unless they are with the Secret Service, the FBI and the CIA which are Federal Agencies.

Sheriffs and State Deputies are hired by each state, through a central recruiting office in the state capitol. And each state has its own hiring rules.

Even worse, City and County police are hired locally by the city or town government recruiting office, which means that you could get some yokel doing the hiring, with LOTS of input by the top cop.

That's why in Southern cities and towns you get a lot of redneck cops who hire their friends, family, and other "like minded" individuals.

In small Southern towns, it wouldn't be unusual to see an all white police force in charge of a majority black community.

In this particular case, this is rural Illinois, so again, the hiring was probably done by some small human resources office run by the town, which is why he got past the background checks.

The US has a population of over 330,000,000 people, and there's no way the Federal Government could do the hiring for cops nationally.

It has to be left up to the states, cities, and counties.

by Anonymousreply 85July 24, 2024 4:47 PM

The police who on the scene after Grayson came outside were staring at him like deer in headlights - which is a nicer way of saying like villagers with flaming torches. Their silence is deafening. I bet the people who work with him knew he was a wrong ‘un.

And this is before he called the woman he killed a “crazy bitch” in front of everyone.

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by Anonymousreply 86July 24, 2024 6:09 PM

[quote] And this is before he called the woman he killed a “crazy bitch” in front of everyone.

That video is very telling at R86.

He's walking around looking at the other cops, and they either turn away from him or walk away from him.

They all knew he was wrong, and nobody said a word. They just looked down at the ground.

All white, too.

by Anonymousreply 87July 24, 2024 6:24 PM

[quote] Sheriffs and State Deputies are hired by each state, through a central recruiting office in the state capitol. And each state has its own hiring rules.

R85, this might be how things are done where you’re from and it is the case that states have state-hired and employed highway patrolmen who mainly police highways and interstates.

What you’re not correct about is the sheriff and police forces. The vast majority of county sheriffs in the U.S. are elected officials who run in a county specific election and are solely responsible for the hiring and policies of their respective local departments, as long as those policies don’t break state law.

Policemen are hired by the police chief which is hired or appointed by either a city manager or the town council, in a few places I think this is an elected position but it’s not common, depending on which of the two main styles of city governance the municipality prescribes to.

by Anonymousreply 88July 24, 2024 7:14 PM

R82 Fuck you. I said “depending on where you lived” and I never brought race into it. OF COURSE POC have always had it rough with the police. The police were not as crazed, hostile, trigger happy, far right, THEN as they are NOW. It was a big deal when a cop had to use their weapon. Some police never fired their weapons in their entire career before. That’s a fact. White people can’t trust them.

by Anonymousreply 89July 24, 2024 11:29 PM

I would love to see him convicted of 1st Degree Murder, although I think that's a bit of a stretch.

But 2nd Degree Murder, definitely.

by Anonymousreply 90July 25, 2024 3:11 AM

[quote]The police were not as crazed, hostile, trigger happy, far right, THEN as they are NOW.

r89 Apparently has no idea why the Black Panther Party was created.

[quote]White people can’t trust them.

So, because now White people aren't even safe from cops that means they've gotten worse as opposed to just following a consistent pattern of abuse of authority? Do you not hear yourself?

by Anonymousreply 91July 27, 2024 4:42 AM

[quote]I will also say that he was confrontational with her from the minute she opened the door, asking why it took so long for her to answer his knock

Agreed; even without seeing the shooting, you felt so bad for this woman. She clearly had some mental health issues, so instead of diffusing the situation & trying to calm her down, he acts aggressive & confrontational. And let's just assume that she did intend to throw the water at them - she appears to be at enough of a distance that at most, it would've splashed their feet & ankles. And I agree with the poster who said he was just looking for a reason to blow her head off & however lame, the pot of water gave him one.

I recall at the time of the George Floyd killing, there were numerous stories about how hard it is to get rid of bad cops. And given how this guy showed up multiple places, they did try to get rid of him, but he just got hired someplace else.

by Anonymousreply 92July 28, 2024 12:25 PM

R92, law enforcement agencies are usually jealous of their power, have personal and longstanding animosity towards their neighboring agencies, and in general don’t communicate well.

They don’t call up the department twenty miles away to see why they let this applicant go because they don’t like the other agency, think anyone who didn’t work out there must be a good guy because those guys are idiots, or don’t want the other agency to know that we’re so desperate we’re thinking about hiring their cast-offs.

by Anonymousreply 93July 29, 2024 4:32 PM
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