Pt 2 DID THEY TRY TO KILL TRUMP?

Pt 1 at this liink

What a stupid fucking kid, wasted the chance of a lifetime

This will be the headline in the news ad nauseam. I wouldn't complain if it had been successful.

He’s fine he sends his love

Most people will get sick of it fairly soon because he's such a whiner. There's only so much pity and interest the majority will be able to spare this guy, especially as he wasn't actually injured, since we all have lives and problems of our own.

And only a person's momma is truly interested in their whining.

I'm sure all the Sunday morning talking heads had all planned to continue the Biden debate garbage, everyone must be up late rewriting scripts for tomorrow

He’s still alive.

Anybody have this on their score card?

[quote] Anybody have this on their score card?

Both Charlie Kirk and Sean Hannity have said they think Trump would be assassinated

This will only make his mental health and paranoia spiral even further.

I bet he would've shoved Melania and Barron in front of him if they were available.

TikTok broke the news to me, but after listening to the BBC bloviate about how it's all so unprecedented & so un-American, they obviously have no idea of our history.

Hold tight to your dreams.

Mike Flynn has been threatening to off Orange Jesus for almost a year.

There's video of him talking about his planning some type of "Black Swan' event before the election. He and Putin have plans, apparently, and he's been traveling the US building a dumbass QAnnon army.

I hope this is just the trailer of the real thing.

R13, yes, so many gay married 20-year-olds.

Maybe a groyper who perceives Trump as a sellout to jews

Calling Cassandra,

what does the market look like on Monday? Anywhere to look at for a buy or sell?

R18, the stock for bulletproof adult diapers surges tomorrow!

A Sashay Nation attempt!

"We never miss twice." ✊

Well that news conference didn't reveal much.

R8 I was at the barbers on Wednesday. We were discussing the Biden situation. My barber said “I predict Trump will get bumped off or have a massive heart attack, Biden will step down and we can start again from scratch” He based this on the fact that whenever one of his relatives would have a health issue and attract the attention of the whole family, another family member would die suddenly. He said “everyone is so focused on Biden’s every step that something even more shocking will happen”

My own 2c is that Trump is chaos. I was exhausted from him the day he won, depleted on J6 and now we have an assassination attempt. Another 4 years of this circus doesn’t bear thinking about. If only Dems were as brazen and amoral as Rs. They would have come out after the debate and said Biden was a stable genius, nothing to see and oh look over there - a trans cat.

And that photo of him doesn’t show bravery. It shows a lunatic standing before an American flag after escaping the most American of deaths - 20 y/o with an AR15.

Where the hell was the SS and how did they let it happen Biden better ask about his own security, and he was on a roof?!!! They didn't scan around or anything? Did they outsource the fucking SS or something?

The MAGA hat he was wearing will be listed on eBay tomorrow morning.

Valiant effort.

Give everyone guns, take your fucking chances.

Yeah it seems like they would have had some drones in the air watching the roof tops.

R23, who the fuck cares? They probably wanted Mr. Shits His Pants to go down.

It appears he was a registered Republican.

A 20 year old 2A enthusiast and registered White REPUBLICAN. The call's coming from inside the house... if Orangina wasn't scared before, he should be now. Sometimes it be your own damn people....

QAnnoner. I'll bet he was a QAnnon wacko.

R29, hahahahaha! The GOP begins to [shoot] their own.

Imagine having to be the poor schmuck SS agent that would have to take a bullet for that fat orange load of shit.

Look, r18, if I did it for *you*, I'd have to do it for *everybody*.

R30, He was able to legally purchase a rifle under 21 years of age?

The shorter was wearing one of those Under Armour Freedom shirts. Those are MAGA wear where I live. It’s a uniform. Obese or meth thin, UA Freedom shirt, ball cap, cargo shorts, trump sticker on the truck.

I am getting really fucking tired of reading right wingers bullshit. May I remind them of what Trump said about Hillary.

I've mentioned recently, the QAnnoners are really pissed off (at Trump). And insane. They think many people dead and have been replaced by deep state fakes or robots.

And, they were super fucking pissed about Trump "pushing" the COVID vaccine. They considered it the ultimate betrayal, as they believe anyone who takes the vaccine to be no longer human.

R35, it's the Republicans' fault. They want guns in every classroom; no background checks for mental instability; an AR-15 for every toddler. This is the hellscape that they want.

R38, I really don't think it would take very much effort at all to turn QAnon against Trump. Just a little creativity.

If this had happened to Biden, Fox News within 30 seconds would have suggested it was staged.

Creepy.

If it does turn out the shooter was a Republican, will the MAGA believe it because it just won't fit their narrative or agenda to make Democrats responsible for everything.

As they used to say in the old comics and cartoons: Curses! Foiled again.

Oh, FFS!

[quote]A 20 year old 2A enthusiast and registered White REPUBLICAN.

If indeed this turns out to be true, they'll soon start screaming "FALSE FLAG!".

Well no wonder the SS didn’t pay must heed to him. He looks exactly like the inbred people who come to the rallies. Actually he looks like an inbred Down syndrome with FAS.

R43, maybe he was Barron's ex-boyfriend?

R47 YUP. I give it 12 hours. Maybe now we'll start talking about how Dump needs to step down for his - and the country's - safety.

THOMAS MATTHEW CROOKS, hero and martyr 🫡🙏🇺🇲

[quote] Well no wonder the SS didn’t pay must heed to him.

and the fact that he was about 148 yards away outside the perimeter on a roof top.

This is a plot by the radical left and I’m just sick of it.

Jeez. Imagine being 20 years old, deciding to attempt something of this magnitude, realising you will very possibly/probably die in the attempt, going and doing it anyway and very nearly managing to pull it off. This guy's story is going to be fascinating. I could see the QAnon angle.

I guess Trump smashes the individual donations record this month.

It seems really suspicious. You’d think if they really wanted him dead they easily could have gotten his head

Trump is such a [draft-dodging] pussy. I wonder if he'll ever show his face again in front of a rally?

130 yards is not that far away. I think these rallies are not organized early enough to give the Secret Service time enough to really secure the area. In Milwaukee they are probably going to block off half the city.

[quote] This is a plot by the radical left and I’m just sick of it.—Joan Rivers

So clearly you will be voting for Trump again from the grave.

Suspected shooter was a registered Republican

He always wins..........

The Biden campaign is banking on this superseding all the Joe must go talk, but I doubt it.

If this shooter was Republican as the records indicate, it will change the narrative asap.

What’s happening in the Republican Party that’s driving so much political violence? From J6 to the plot to harm Gretchen Whitmer to the attack on Paul Pelosi to this?

What is the motive???

Did he leave a note behind?

He had gross long blond hair

In social media and internet obsessed, incel, loser America, I think a sense of being seen, of getting attention, of having "done something" and being remembered is motive enough. I'm not saying that IS the motive just that it's a thing.

He needed a better hair care routine.

R63, Barron's jilted ex-boyfriend.

Who knows R63 - I'm thinking a combination of Lizard people's great replacement, transphobia, fluoridation, 2nd Amendment and Free Gaza has all got a bit jumbled in a schizophrenic mind virus in some troubled 20yo. Let's just wait until his maniphesto drops.

If he was a republican, he might want Trump to win meanwhile created chaos in this country. That might explain why the bullet missed Trump.

Any friends come out to say he's a weirdo etc?

Does this mean other MAGATs will now be turning on Trump?

[quote]He had gross long blond hair

It was an homage to MTG, r65.

R72, can you imagine the paranoia level when Trump learns the gunshots came from within!

They claim the 18 year old who pulled a gun on Sotomayor's security was a carjacker, but maybe not.

qanoners may have turned on trump over the epstein connections - nick fuentes, one of the most prominent white supremacists in the country with a huge following of young men, recently blasted trump for selling out white people and christians to jews and elitists

"Someone is scared Biden is going to lose."

We all are.

Trump is the most hated man in America. Perhaps the world.

My hope is pussyneck will be so spooked by this he will withdraw and concentrate on his legal woes.

direct video of the shooter shooting from the roof

If I was a planner inside the Trump camp and I knew of top Republicans who wanted Trump to drop out or step aside for the "good of the party" or "for America" and who might be taking steps to make these things a reality, I might set up an incel patsy with horrible hair and hygiene to do this, coincidentally leaving a paper trail or manifesto of some sort that would indicate I was "inspired" by these Republicans who wanted Trump gone.

Which would turn the full force of MAGA hate on them, causing destruction, obedience, or even death.

If I was a planner like that.

It looks like the whole crowd could see him

It changed the conversation away from Biden's weaknessess.

There's video of the SS snipers spotting him before he fired, R81. They did nothing.

R82, hehehe.

I know we could have said it it many times in recent years, as well as throughout history, but "WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON IN THIS COUNTRY?"

Rob Schneider is fucking pissed at the liberal media

From the words of the late Whitney Houston, “it’s not right but it’s okay.”

R87, who is that nobody?

[quote]"WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON IN THIS COUNTRY?"

Look back at the past three centuries, r86. It's called...sometimes shit happens.

Well, r87, looks like someone's off their meds.

Will Melania calm him down by changing his diaper?

R92 Well, she tried Eurocrem on toast but that didn’t seem to do much.

Don’t send a boy to do a man’s job.

I wonder if his besties, Putin and Kim Jong Un will call to check up on him?

Yes, Rob Schneider: It was an assassination attempt… by a Republican, white supremacist incel who likely went after Dump for bashing Project 2025 and saying he would not call for a national ban on abortion, if elected. I’m sure he was a fan of your stupid movies too, dipshit.

Shooter was identified:

I love seeing the post history of some of these “liberal hate mongering” types. It’s years of calling Biden a pedo, the devil, an Antichrist, a communist, a socialist, the very face of evil. Years of saying he would lead the country to hell, even more children would be snatched up for the abuse ring in the pizza parlor, he will take your guns, Mexicans will take your jobs, he will ban Christianity, the dollar will collapse (buy gold), he will cause WW3, the end of the world is coming.

And then today - “Democrat party caused this because they said Trump would be bad for the country”

Uh…..

My little pink gun wouldn’t hurt anyone unless they got between me and my freedoms. Cricket, was a burden.

Exactly, R98. Exactly.

And meanwhile, it was Trump who was calling pedo-Epstein all of the time.

Looking forward to the bare-chested horseback photos!

ahem....

The shooter looks special.

Might have been a Republican, but that's just spec right now.

If you watch the video closely, you can see Trump turn his head as the bullet grazed his ear. If he hadn't moved his head, he would be dead right now. The bullet would've gone into his brain. It was dumb luck that he slightly turned his head.

Don’t toy with me R104!!!

These events at unfortunately a real risk, given the escalating rhetoric. And it is mostly the right. If this were flipped, a fraction would be saying jack shit to Joe Biden. Even Susan Collins would wait two days.

R103 That's not the shooter. That's a picture of noted liberal Twitter user 'jewgazer' that Trumpers have been circulating for the last few hours, falsely identifying him as such.

Republican?

R108, link to an actual web site showing that, not some stupid photo you found on X.

R103

R109 Bryan Taylor Cohen is running with it.

R103 There’s an image of Crook’s status as a registered Republican floating around on X, but since it could be Photoshopped I looked it up myself, and sure enough there’s a guy in PA with the same full name who was born in 2003, and is registered as a Republican in Allegheny County. It may be an amazing coincidence, of course….

[quote]And it is mostly the right.

More than mostly, r106.

R110 is not the same guy as the shooter, but the name is correct and the pics are correct. The guy in the video is just some redneck looking for attention.

R108 How is it not more obvious to people that this is fake? Why wouldn't his full birthday be listed? Is it because we don't actually know it yet?

I just tried doing the same search this user claimed to do and it's impossible to look up without the full date of birth.

R109: DOB 9/20/2003, County: Allegheny, zip: 15102

Direct link here:

Well, isn’t this an interesting turn of events?

Watching the eye witness reports is just embarrassing. How do these people function. They all stand out from space as lunatics. The people seeing this abroad are surely thinking “how did this not happen sooner”

A CNN law enforcement expert just now: How did this guy manage to pick the one rooftop 150 yards away that was unguarded?

It’s time we normalize shooting pedophiles.

Right Wing NUTS are spreading all kinds of lies on social media about the (alleged) shooter and his "affiliation" with every Democratic organization you can name. And not a shred of proof. WTF?!

If Biden ordered the attack then at least he will be immune from prosecution. Thanks Supreme Court.

The Shooter dead SO soon after the crime was probably what was supposed to happen to Lee H Oswald. Dead men tell no tales, so unless he left a ton of info on social media - which all could be manipulated - he could have been recruited for a false flag, and then killed. Something is amiss....

[quote]The shooter looks special.

He appears to be a Hapsburg.

Almost like they had these fake bios ready to go. He's unemployed and can only give $15 to a PAC but he's in Seattle, Portland, and Minneapolis? No fucking way.

And it was a Republican PAC.

Did not give any money to Biden.

Girlies, you seem really bloodthirsty.

Trump may be a clown, but are you really sure that the elites are right when they tell you that democracy is at stake. Maybe it is their profit, particularly Blackrock's in Ukraine that is at stake.

I mean, what lives do we all lead now. The ones of serfs. Can't afford a house, hardly can afford any food, slaving for corporations that in return squeeze every penny out of your pocket. Like Scrooge. Is this a democracy that iy worth killing for?

Our former President showed tremendous grace and courage under literal fire tonight. So thankful for his safety and so sad for the victims and their families," Bezos tweeted.

F-Bezos, that was not courage, it was fear and a temper tantrum on the verge of tears.

NYT: "A voter-registration record showed that Mr. Crooks was registered as a Republican, though federal campaign-finance records show he donated $15 to the Progressive Turnout Project, a liberal voter turnout group, through the Democratic donation platform ActBlue in January 2021."

I fully expect people to focus on whichever part of this they hate to begin with. The guy was obviously not MAGA based on this. But he also might have thought Trump was the tooth fairy extracting his teeth at night for all we know yet. Could be a schizo. Could be an angry young man like most assassins. Time will tell...

R112, link?

This guy’s parents were probably Republicans so he just registered as such when he turned 18. He was only 20, so nothing can be inferred about his actual political leanings based on that registration.

Never mind.

Maybe he thought Trump was not MAGA enough? Or betrayed him, Did you ever think of that? Join the other team to take down the same enemy. Trump was pretending to not be part of the 2025 thing.

Bethel Park is an upper-middle class suburban area south of Pittsburgh. It bears no resemblance to the semi-rural MAGA-country area of Butler where the shooting took place.

[quote]This guy’s parents were probably Republicans so he just registered as such when he turned 18.

If you are at a point where you are donating money to a political campaign, you know what party you are registered with. Men go off to fight wars at 18, not buying he was just a kid routine.

The right wing wackos are at CDAN

He was younger than 18 when that alleged $15 donation was made, so he wasn’t registered at all with any party at that time.

Time to cancel Rob Schneider

Social media is full of people worring about Biden. The Democratic party has turned against him and media are dehumanizing him like they did with Trump.

So basically if he was under 18 when he donated a whopping $15 dollars to a vote blue org, he must have switched sides and became a Republican by the time he was old enough to vote.

[quote]The bullet would've gone into his brain.

It was nowhere near Trump’s asshole.

R141, I don't think you can cancel something that never was.

[quote]Time to cancel Rob Schneider

Cancel him how? I thought his career was already in the shitter.

R5 says; 'Most people will get sick of it fairly soon because he's such a whiner. There's only so much pity and interest the majority will be able to spare'.

He sounds just like the average DLer these days.

[quote]The shooter looks special.

He does nothing for me.

I tried to search for contributions under "Thomas Crooks" using the fec.gov website to corroborate the NYT report, but I found nothing. The Times of Israel is reporting the same alleged contribution to some alleged "progressive PAC." Can anyone else confirm?

Btw, if true, the contribution would've been made exactly 4 months after the kid's 17th birthday.

Was Trump's nickname for Hillary "crooked Hillary"? Or "lying Hillary"?

Have they questioned this lez?

It was BOTH Hillary R150.

Here's a very handy reference chart for those who like to keep up with these things:

This is a stunt from the mind of "John Barron."

And if it's not? It doesn't matter.

You reap what you sow. Trump, the serial liar and relentless stunt queen, has earned the skepticism he deserves.

The man told 30,000+ lies in four years in office. And lied and cheated about everything else for 50 years.

R149 I found it… maybe you didn’t have the date filters set correctly?

^^ The org he contributed to is “Act Blue.”

Police presence and bomb squad were reported to be present at the parents/suspects house in Bethel Park, PA earlier.

Trump let the MAGA crowd vote at his rallies what he would nickname Hillary.

DL armchair sleuths poring over the internet deets of a twenty year old.

Haven't you got a twink still missing in Tenerife to find?

He probably registered as Republican to vote against Trump on Repunlican primary. I have read that many Dem voters, partcularly the ones with Trump obsession have done that as at the time Dem primary was not relevant since Biden was going for new mandate.

Classy, gassy Trump cared more about his shoes than whether anyone in the crowd was hurt.

Whatever the case, the Republication registration and the Act Blue donation is sure to keep the peasants on both sides of the political aisle busy with their bickering and theorizing while the big dogs handle actual business behind the scenes.

So many conspiracy theories and wild made-up theories R159!

Sorry, R159. That doesn’t explain the gun nut T-shirt he was wearing. And the fact that he had an AR15 and knowledge of how to use a sniper rifle also doesn’t scream liberal at all.

r163 There are, in fact, liberals who know their way around a firearm. I know. Crazy, right??

R162 not conspiracy theories. The fact that people registered as Republican to vote against Trump was covered in mainstream media and it was linked here on DL. People were hoping to get rid of him on primary by voting for his rivals like Haley.

This kid has certainly proven to have Trump obsession, he threw away his life to get rid of him.

The other possibility is that he was old school neocon Republican that are very anti Trump, too. But given his age and the fact he had supported progressive causes before it is hardly plausible.

Yep, liberal young people who are trained to use AR15s are absolutely commonplace!

[quote]DL armchair sleuths poring over the internet deets of a twenty year old….

…who shot at Donald Trump with an AR-15, Einstein. Would you rather we dish about the cast of “Facts of Life?”

Just as neocon old school teenage Republicans who donate for progressive causes R166

[quote]Yep, liberal young people who are trained to use AR15s

Was this kid “trained”?? He couldn’t hit a 350 pound orange target.

He courts this kind of violence and wishes it on others, often with the promise of a pardon for those who perpetrate said violence, so karma came back to bite him. Several people on my social media feeds who are suddenly wishing for a pause to denounce this kind of political violence were “oddly” radio silent when a Trump acolyte broke into Nancy Pelosi’s house and beat her husband half to death with a hammer and another one drove to upstate NY to shoot multiple black people in a supermarket. So, while no one wants this kind of thing to happen to someone…anyone got a good recipe for chocolate chip cookies?

R139, what does that mean?

But, back to Trump’s Project 2025…

For your leisure, I recommend subreddits like conspiracy commons. Occasionally, QAnon slips in and it's wild. Of course they hate Trump. They hate every politician.

R170 there are rumours that it was a hookup gone wrong way R170.

No sympathy whatsoever.

Like this

Does Trump care to apologize for the disgusting comments he made about Paul Pelosi when he was attacked?

Fuck Trump.

And this

A guy named Crooks did the deed, when it is Trump’s pet word: “Crooked Biden” & “Crooked Hillary”

R154, thanks, I found it too, but only after I set my phone browser to desktop mode. For some reason, the site wouldn't pull up the info even though I had all the right filters.

So he registered as a Republican around his 18th birthday, but he became anti-Trump sometime within a span of months.

The PAC to which he donated states that its mission is to support democracy. I'm betting that January 6th, 2021 had a huge impact on this kid. He held conservative values, but he determined that Trump was too much of an extreme far-right threat.

It'll be the young generation who will save us this election.

R179 It’s similar to the Lincoln-Kennedy coincidences!

I could've fired eight shots and not even messed up my bouffant.

R167 says "Would you rather we dish about the cast of “Facts of Life?”

Well, YOU may know more about that than you do political matters.

[quote]It'll be the young generation who will save us this election.

This fella from the "young generation" tried to murder someone...

After the Iowa school shooting, Donald Trump said, :We have to get over it."

Fuck Trump. Thoughts and prayers, asshole.

R184 and in fact people got killed and injured. But upper class hipsters like R180 would say: it was just some rednecks.

Can we talk about gun control?

Oh no, this is America.

[quote]He probably registered as Republican to vote against Trump on Repunlican primary.

Yeah, NOPE. The most likely scenario is he donated 15 dollars first when he was under age 16. Then as he turned 18, became a legal adult and had the chance to vote, he identified as a Republican and registered accordingly.

This makes me want to pick my nose.

@r129, YA znayu, chto ty russkiy, pochemu by ne napisat' po-russki?

(I know that you are Russian, why not write in Russian?)

R188 sure, because a kid who had been progressive but changed to Maga by his 18th birthday, would assasinate Trump.

Yep, R190 is right, R129 does look like a troll. the wording is just not like anything an American would say, including the odd content about Ukraine. A dead give away.

People on social media are predominantly guessing he registered as Republican to vote against Trump on primaries.

Well R191 "a kid" did in fact try to assassinate Trump. So it's not hard to assume he's MAGA. He's registered Republican, that's a fact. Young people are very persuadable. Especially those with some mental issues.

Ted Cruz's father strikes again!

R193, we discussed that already, it's unlikely. More likely it's a way to dodge the association with Republicans.

DL logic;

Straight men are all cock suckers.

Everyone who isn't a Biden fanatic must be Boris.

In evangelical churches all over the US this morning, they're singing "Were You There When They Shot Our Trumpy?"

He was a gun nut who wore merch from a pro-gun youtube channel called Demolition Ranch that has 11 million viewers. His shirt today had an American flag on it. From a white, fairly well to do neighborhood.

Sounds like a right-winger to me, despite what he did 3 years ago as a highschool teenager. And I think his donation was to a PAC dedicted to voting rights.

* dedicated

[quote]People on social media are predominantly guessing he registered as Republican to vote against Trump on primaries.

What a load of MAGA conspiratorial hogwash.

By the time this kid turned 18 in September 2021, Donald Trump was already the incumbent Republican nominee. The kid registered as a Republican because, at the time, he identified as a Republican. Period.

Just because he was anti-Trump does not mean that he no longer identified as a Republican. Just ask Liz Cheney, Adam Kinzinger, etc.

@r192 Be vewy, vewy quiet, I'm hunting Russian trolls

- r190

Why would anyone wanna see Rob Schneider canceled? Because he spoke against the liberal media?

Canceling Rob Schneider would be redundant at this point.

How cute. R203 still thinks the media have a liberal bias.

Hey, Rob, say it was a 20 year old white Republican with an AR-15

it was a 20 year old white Republican with an AR-15

it was a 20 year old white Republican with an AR-15

it was a 20 year old white Republican with an AR-15

Hey, Rob, the truth is kind of fun 🙂

The Russians are coming!

The Russians are coming!

DL

Also DL;

Sizemeat verificatia?

And of course the insane republicans are blaming Biden for a far right wing gun nut, and registered republican, trying to kill their fuhrer.

R199 kids from white upper middle class neighbourhoods usually are not Magas, they are liberal.

Alec Baldwin acquitted on gun charges on the same day his nemesis is shot.

Coincidence?!

R205 they do. And I’m a liberal.

This was an inside job. If you know how secret service works and how prepared they are before every Presidential speech, you know there is no way they didn’t know the shooter was there. They knew and allowed him to shoot.

So because Biden said 'Trump is the target' in an interview, or the debate(?) some nuts like VP Wannabe JD Vance are laying blame on Biden's 'rhetoric'- compared to the vile shit that Trump has said over the last 9 years alone, wow. Wow.

If so r211, the question is why?

Ashley Parker at WaPo is still saying Trump was struck by a bullet. Didn’t SS confirm he was hit by shards of glass from the teleprompter?

She must be working from the advance press release.

Republicans acting like victims is like, as they say, a hat on top of a hat. There’s just nowhere for them to go with it.

I mean, what? Are they going to come out against the culture of gun violence they’ve created? No. It’s “Sleepy Joe Biden’s” fault.

This convention is going to be insufferable. Will probably raise more questions than it answers.

[quote] So because Biden said 'Trump is the target' in an interview, or the debate(?) some nuts like VP Wannabe JD Vance are laying blame on Biden's 'rhetoric'

It's even nuttier than that. It wasn't a public event like an interview or the debate. It was a meeting with donors where Biden used the word "bullseye" to describe targeting Trump. Somehow that makes Biden responsible for the shooting, according to MAGAts. How would a 20-year-old have any idea what Biden told donors during a meeting?

They’re also SO quick to tell us all the benefits and the electoral advantages this is going to bring to Trump, they can’t even wait for that to happen organically. It’s like they’re telling us how to respond and also doing a victory dance at the same time - they’re so gleeful, yet trying to shame the rest of us into submission. No authenticity at all.

Plus, Trump will probably be back on the golf course today, that’s how serious this threat is.

I missed. Next time I hit.

^ That's it! The gunman saw the picture of Melania with a gun and he thought, "She wants me to kill her husband so that we can be together forever"

Case solved, Melania did it

Look at the disgusting yellow soles on her hooker feet!

[quote]How cute. [R203] still thinks the media have a liberal bias.

[quote][R205] they do. And I’m a liberal.

A particularly shitty one.

[quote]R205 they do. And I’m a liberal.

Sure you are.

I'm a liberal gay, just like you girlies 😂

staged

The shooter may have been out to get pedos

^ that definitely won't fit the Repugs narrative.

the GOP supports Pedos

[quote]that definitely won't fit the Repugs narrative

But it certainly fits their profile.

[quote][R205] they do. And I’m a liberal.

Nice to meet you, I'm Benjamin Franklin

btw, why is your IP in Russia?

yeah, pretty transparent

[quote]He was registered to vote as a Republican, according to a listing in Pennsylvania’s voter database that matched his name, age, and a Bethel Park address that law enforcement was searching Saturday night and is linked to Crooks in public records.

We all need to pray that the gunman is a disillusioned rethug trumper maga idiot who thinks cheeto has betrayed their cause and not a liberal crusader. He and the rethugs are going to spin this as the dems and left going off the rails.

He's going to ride this to the WH.

^ He's going to ride this to nowhere because the shooter was one of their own. Big surprise when you attract nut cases to your cause that they act like, um, nut cases

I think Trump is scared shitless.

He's looking at having to be at the RNC next week in Milwaukee.

He's thinking if this happened at one of my own rallies, what will happen at the Mother of All Rallies?

I would not be surprised if he makes up some excuse along the lines of

"The Secret Service has requested that I avoid some types of gatherings. My presence would disrupt the enjoyment of everybody who is there because of the necessity of heightened security.

I love you all, and I will be there on a YUUUGE Jumbotron screen."

And here's the thing. I loathe Trump with the heat of a trillion Suns, but anybody's psyche, after the initial shock wears off and you're able to digest the reality of what happened, would be in some degree of PTSD.

Although he'd die rather than admit that.

I'd bet now he won't be going to Milwaukee and will claim it's for the benefit of those there.

That IG account at R225 so clearly is fake. There are at least two dozen other fake accounts on there by now.

And whoever keeps insisting that this GOP kid was from an "upper middle class neighbourhood [sic]" clearly hasn't checked out the house and surrounding magahood on Google Maps.

R233 I’ve been thinking about this as well, that after the shock wears off he may be spooked and skittish about being in public. Although he will cover it up with false bravado to an extent—remember he wanted to wear a superman shirt after he got out of the hospital when he had covid? What an idiot.

my prediction is he donated to a progressive group to impress a cute girl at school - this guy was an incel nerd. i've seen his yearbook pic. he probably got swept up into MAGA and far right stuff years back and then got more extreme, like into accelerationism.

r233 not anybody - genuine psychopaths barely experience stress at all and aren't traumatized or even remotely bothered by extreme situations or near death experiences.

I have seen two Republican Congressmen on TV saying that it was divine intervention that saved Trump, one of the congressmen being Speaker Mike Johnson.

So apparently God loves Trump but Trump's ear, not so much?

If divine intervention was a thing, the shooter would have died in a car accident on the way to the rally.

R237 Are these congressmen asked why god didn’t help out the people who were killed and wounded?

No the TV hosts let them get away with that bullshit, they aren't going to challenge the Chosen by God meme about Trump. One host was Kasey Hunt on CNN, Mike Johnson was on the Today show with Savannah Guthrie and Willie Geist.

We know Trump is a coward, so of course he's scared shitless

Two conspiracy theories I have heard. The kid was picked to do this, Trump loyalist so that Trump would win. He was supposed to shoot and miss but nicked Trump's ear. Was also not supposed to be shot dead by SS. The other is the kid acted alone, but still knew it would boost Trump and didn't think he would be killed either way. That would explain the lengthy photo op Trump took while be "rescued." The face he kept sticking his head up and his fist shouting FIGHT FIGHT, to me, would indicate he was actually in fear of his life, that the shooter would continue. Look at the Reagan shooting. The got Ronnie in the car asap He did not pop up and shout "FREEDOM!" or anything, he stayed down. Three things I would like to know. The shooter's connection to Trump, if any. Where the bullet is and what type of wound does he have on his ear?

Let's see.

Surrounded by 5 or 6 Secret Service Agents, was OK after they didn't have to call in a crane to get me up on my feet, and the cameras are on me.

And Trump's morons are praising him for his stupid fist raising "fight, fight, fight."

The conspiracists are fast at work. Whether from the left or right, they all share a fundamental nuttiness.

Conspiracy theories are an endemic American value R243. Totally agree with you though. There's some crazy shit being put forward.

I think his actions showed a total disregard to the SS. Here they are trying to shield him to save his ass, and he's standing tall doing fist pumps for a photo-op.

Staged

[quote]And whoever keeps insisting that this GOP kid was from an "upper middle class neighbourhood [sic]" clearly hasn't checked out the house and surrounding magahood on Google Maps.

Bethel Park is a middle to upper-middle class suburb. Mostly white, most parents have good jobs. That particular house isn’t much to write home about, but it’s known as a good school district in a nice area with minimal crime.

It was staged. An attempt by Trump to galvanize his MAGAT supporters and possibly gain new followers.

Pfft

Hmm what state was he trailing behind?

Exactly. It was staged

Girlies, next thing you will start writing about David Icke's lizard people.

See how soon you fall into conspiracy theory when it fits your narrative.

There is no try, only do.

@r252, Hi, Boris, you even write with a Russian accent. Send my love to girlie Putin

I'd like the Dems to put up an anti-political violence ad that showcases all of Trump's incitement to violence over the years (not just limited to Jan. 6). And let's not forget his mocking of Paul Pelosi, in the attempted assassination of Nancy.

What is this new “girlies” thjng? Did the Russian troll get that from a ChapGPT? We don’t call each other that, you troll.

Is Jonathan Turley angling for AG in Trump 2.0?

Actually, they should use this incident to get the ban on AR-15s back.

"See, we told ya so"

After watching multiple videos from multiple angles and listening to the boosted sound of the take-down, I have these two observations.

1] When Trump was struck in the ear, he was in full left profile, looking at the teleprompter, on his right, with his right ear, the struck ear upstage and covered by his head. You can see him wince when the teleprompter glass hits his upstage ear. If it were a bullet that caused the right ear damage, it would have had to pass through his entire head. Conclusion: flesh wound to ear, caused by shattered glass, not bullet.

2] When Trump is down, and they are about to lift him vertically for removal, he makes multiple demands for his shoes. It is obvious that they lifted him first and then got him into his shoes, as he MIRACULOUSLY rises approximately 3 inches. When fully in costume, the hair was beyond public repair, THEN he gives the defiant fist pumps. Just like Lucy always said, because she was a physical comic, KNOW YOUR PROPS! It seems that, like Dorothy, Trump knows his power comes from his shoes. Conclusion: Conman gotta con, 24/7.

His parents/ lives are over.

R233, I doubt all of that. This is such a hoax. Trump will be on the golf course later today and none of his supporters will think anything of it. They’ll be like, “He’s SO strong!” The fist pumping will get even more tiresome.

[quote]Bethel Park is a middle to upper-middle class suburb. Mostly white, most parents have good jobs. That particular house isn’t much to write home about, but it’s known as a good school district in a nice area with minimal crime.

Maybe to your Canadian hamlet mentality, but in America, a median income of $53K is nowhere near "upper middle class." Sorry to burst your conspiratorial bubble.

It's no Sewickley.

Dear Richard, Dr . Ruth, Shannen, and God:

Hear me out...

r261, they will bring him on to the stage in Milwaukee on a gurney.

Families who are survivors of mass shootings and have lost loved ones know - shooters shoot to kill.

Where was this guy’s bump stock?

This seems like some loser suffering from mental illness was put up to the task by someone who knew he couldn’t shoot straight. Probably planned the whole thing for him, told him he was part of group, probably told him Trump planned to ban assault weapons or whatever and set him up to take a bullet to the head. Why wasn’t he taken into captivity? So convenient to have a rooftop shooter who can’t say anything now.

The idea that this was an actual assassination attempt doesn’t sit well with me. Seems ludicrous. Assassins hit their target. This is like barely some Squeaky Fromme level bullshit.

Was he home schooled? No friends etc come out to say what he was like etc???

OMG. Some of you are nuts.

Didn't they try to interview neighbors etc???

If the investigation proves that the shooter was seeking revenge on paedos, do you think the media would come out and say that?

Certainly would make Trump an uncomfortable target. If the media did their job they’d blow up all the recently released Epstein files in FL. They won’t, of course. But we should run with that. lol

I just looked him up on the Federal Election Commisssion websie and it says no contribution date available at this time. I call fake.

With Biden circling the drain, Trump plans a fake assassination that kills his own supporters. That makes NO sense.

Why did Trump have his shoes off??

I think I'm just going to accept that I can't know what's going with the shooter.

This was a Secret Service operation. They'll get him yet.

Also, the shrapnel was not accounted for if this was a staged attempt that went too far, and Trump was expecting to be carted off untouched after an attempt on his life. There is reporting that his vest stopped a bullet, but there is no visual evidence that he was actually hit. None of the videos show any trump recoil, except his bending down behind the podium. If he were struck while he was in profile, the bullet could have possibly entered his arm before hitting him in the ribs of the Kevlar vest. No such visual evidence. No bruised ribs. He couldn't have been hit from the front, as he bent from the waist after his ear was hit by glass. He was not facing front.

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r259

There's really no need for conspiracy theories. America is full of nutters and they all have easy access to firearms.

[quote] So it's not hard to assume he's MAGA.

He tried to kill Trump, so yes it is.

His information has probably been blocked R271. That's the first thing the FBI would do is search through anything official they could access looking for clues about his motivation. Then they would classify anything they found on him for use in their investigation.

Kit, @ r277, I am not supporting any conspiracy theory, just analyzing data and evidence that may contradict what is being reported.

I love that the most important thing to Trump, after being bloodied for whatever reason, is that he needed his shoe lifts. And now we know why he didn't go to the Normandy cemetery in the drizzle. No conspiracy theories, just refuted raw evidence. Because you know that there will be an investigation.

Now, if I were going to suggest a conspiracy theory, Putin knows that assassination is better than poison in America. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[quote] I just looked him up on the Federal Election Commisssion websie and it says no contribution date available at this time. I call fake.

As I understand it, only contributions - $250 or more - for candidates for national office are included.

It is time for everyone to follow Trump's advice, It is time to get over it.

There have to be people who know him. Has anyone come forward on social media and spilled the beans on his motivation and his political leanings? Fellow twenty-year olds who knew him should have been on their phone asap talking about it.

Was he a lonely incel?

[quote]Was he home schooled?

Doesn’t seem so.

Why would he need shoe lifts? He's not short.

There is something in the water in Appalachia that makes people violent though.

I feel really sad for that shooter, seeing his school photo. Poor kid.

They killed him coz they thought he would shoot more and kill more people like that guy in Las Vegas years ago.

R286, Trump has always claimed to be 6' 3". That might be at least 2 inches taller than he actually is.

Why would he have his shoes off?

Well darlings, everyday it seems more clear that all is lost. So, should I drown myself á la Eustacia, or throw myself under a train á la Anna come November?

No doubt it will soon be found out who he was and his motivation.

I doubt that he was really Republican, because why would he want to kill their guru?

If he was an older man, you would say he was the old fashioned type, but the newcomers come for Trump.

The theory that he joined Republicans to vote against Trump makes more logical answer.

The shooter shoulda used a bump stock and took out more of the MAGA crowd. Since they're legal again.

His parents must be so proud!

r290, watch the video, the SS gets him upright THEN he magically rises about 3 inches when hey put his shoes on.

If it weren't situational, it would be HILARIOUS.

And r291, when you are in 3" lifts, on a good day you risk slipping out of them. When he was hit in the ear by the glass, he bent over. Bending over pulled he heels from his shoes, when he flopped over on his side, the shoes came off. Not of his own choice. Also, because it was a head, flesh wound, they did not re-coif the dead ferret. Trump was most certainly not expecting to be hit.

There are plenty of Republicans who want him gone too. But I still think it’s staged.

Me too. It looks clear as day to me

Not all Republicans are MAGAts. And they'll do you in a heartbeat, too.

[quote] GOP senator wants all Trump criminal charges dropped so country can 'heal' after shooting

r300, the country will heal after he gets the hot needle for espionage. I hope it is pay per view.

R300 Is that in the Constitution?

All this talk about assassination being “un-American” is misguided. Sadly, a political candidate being shot by a 20-year-old with an AR-15 is quintessentially American.

If Trump had staged this, wouldn't the shooter be wearing a Biden/Harris T-shirt? They can be dumb but they wouldn't let an opportunity like that go by.

If it was a fake it would so he could claim to be a hero at the convention. OR maybe manage expectations because the convention is sure to be a shit show.

Mike Lee, he of the face like a giant slapped ass, who is on video talking about wanting to get rid of social security and then claiming he does not at Biden's most recent SOTU?

Mike Lee should sit down and shut the fuck up.

[quote]GOP senator wants all Trump criminal charges dropped so country can 'heal' after shooting

[quote]Is that in the Constitution?

I'm gonna say a big fat yes.

I wonder how long this America must unite bullshit will last. Trump is still a dangerous man.

Was he a journeyman?

[quote]If you watch the video closely, you can see Trump turn his head as the bullet grazed his ear. If he hadn't moved his head, he would be dead right now. The bullet would've gone into his brain. It was dumb luck that he slightly turned his head.

I saw an interview with a witness who was in the bleachers and who made this exact point.

I looked carefully at the teleprompter on Trump's right, and I couldn't see any sign it was broken. The bullet was coming from the same side as the ear that was hit, so because his head was suddenly turned it's very conceivable it whizzed past and nicked him. HIs reaction was that of a man who has just heard a wasp go past and realises it's stung him. More "what the?" than any recoil, but if it did just nick the edge of his ear that's a reasonable response.

The microphones clearly caught the SS telling Trump the shooter was "down" before they required him to stand up, so unless there were multiple shooters he knew there was no danger in standing up.

And yes, his complete lack of interest in whether anyone else was shot is testimony to his narcissism. You might say he was too shocked as they dragged him away to think about anything else, but all the fist-pumping and so on suggests otherwise. He thought to grandstand.

If it wasn't a set-up, it will be interesting to see how he is affected both physically and mentally as the week wears on. He is an old man, remember. When the shock wears off and he realizes exactly how close he was to death, it could have physical as well as emotional impacts.

Maybe trump took money and didn't deliver on a national secret the was supposed to sell to one of his friends and this was a warning

Trump got shot last night but Biden got buried.

Trump has no shame. He will start calling himself a veteran.

Damn, imagine if he hadn't shifted his head, the world would have watched his head explode on live TV...

[quote]some nuts like VP Wannabe JD Vance are laying blame on Biden's 'rhetoric'

JD Vance has made an entire career out of being a fat, dumb, neckbearded redneck.

Despite his fancy education.

Not on the level of Ted Cruz R315

[quote] Well darlings, everyday it seems more clear that all is lost.

Get a grip. It's not even mid-July.

[quote]If you watch the video closely, you can see Trump turn his head as the bullet grazed his ear.

Nope, he was in profile looking at the teleprompter when he was hit, No head turning. Then he takes his right hand and discovers blood and hits the dirt when his fully covered upstage ear is hit by NOT a Bullet.

During the shoe debacle, it is HILARIOUS that THEN the Secret Service forms a shield around him as they give him cover putting on the lifts. It is more important getting him in the lifts than getting him medical treatment. And THEN the fist bumps. Hilarious I tell you.

Totally about the lifts.

[quote]If it wasn't a set-up, it will be interesting to see how he is affected both physically and mentally as the week wears on. He is an old man, remember. When the shock wears off and he realizes exactly how close he was to death, it could have physical as well as emotional impacts.

One could hope, though I remember getting my hopes up when he had COVD, so....

r319, and it is amazing how he Rises From The Bone Spurs to assume the height we are fooled into believing is his actual height.

He actually RISES when his magic shoes are replaced.

Just like Jesus rose from the grave! He is truly the Second Coming!

No one in seemingly good health normally wants to be told by the doc that they have cancer and are going to die and fairly soon. Like by November. But if you have cancer that is just a fact.

July 13 202 ended the best non voting election week in modern gop history. The Biden Trump fight is over. All but the whining and crying,

The news during the week is that those interviewing Biden who many think is senile were given the questions to ask in advance. Even then the WH staff had to ask the stations to edit the responses.

One Dem after another is telling Biden to drop out. The ones that want Biden to stay in the hardest are now the GOP. When the opposition wants you in the race more than your own people want you in the race you are in deep shit.

Now the political picture that will go down in history with other pictures John John saluting his dead father. The Marines raising the second flag on Iwo.

Trump looking strong and defiant with blood dripping down his face , framed with the US flag in the background, while he raises his hand in a fist. That s a 10 million dollar picture. Maybe more. It’s iconic.

The stupid people can deny this as they will. But the Biden Trump race is effectively over.

There is one chance left for th Dems , split your forces and send stonewall around the flank.

That is do something completely different. A new vigorous attacking ticket. But only the truly stupid would suggest a ticket with no black woman named Harris on it. No one could be dumb enough to think that two new white people are the answer.

You can deny this but I am right. It was a great week for Trump And a terrible terrible week for Joe

Sometimes you just have to think realistically

Bulls eye indeed. Bad timing on that comment.

Just a 20 yo kid and incited by the dirty corrupted media and politicians got himself killed to "save the democracy" or rather for the trillions Blackrock will pull out of Ukraine.

Did this bitch really say this?

“Political games are inferior to love”

Motherfucking whore!

r322, I love the part where the Secret Service forms a Russian Dance wall around Trump as he puts on the shoes, and then his head pops up above their arm held shoulders.

R324 No matter what kind of rhetoric anyone of any age hears, trying to assassinate someone can not be explained, justified, excused. The shooter deserved to die.

And if I was Mike Johnson I’d b having an army of gop interns digging up every comment on liberal related forums like DL calling for Trumps assination that I could find. There must be 100s of those comments on DL just in the last few months.

And then I’d run those comments on print, radio, internet and tv ads. In their own words this is who these progressive people really are.

Joe Biden is fucked but a new ticket should start with President Harris and her hand picked VP——maybe Ky maybe Illinois can’t be two from California.

That is the one best and maybe only hope. Biden resigns for health reasons and President Harris comes out smoking and fighting with lots of energy. Even then a long shot.

The shooter deserved to die after a fair trial. The American habit of blowing someone's head off on suspicion they did something is not justice, and leads to conspiracy theories.

"It would be wild if this was over Jodie Foster again"

Jesus Fuck, that Melania statement at r325, is crazy. Wonder who wrote it. Wonder if she even signed off on it.

[quote] "A monster who recognized my husband as an inhuman political machine attempted to ring out Donald's passion — his laughter, ingenuity, love of music, and inspiration," she said. "The core facets of my husband's life — his human side — were buried below the political machine. Donald, the generous and caring man who I have been with through the best of times and the worst of times."

Christ that's vomit inducing.

The magats are nuts today claiming those proves he's a warrior and God is on his side. 🙄

[quote]The shooter deserved to die after a fair trial. The American habit of blowing someone's head off on suspicion they did something is not justice, and leads to conspiracy theories.

Excellent point. Is there a shoot to kill policy with an active shooter? Seems like you would want to shoot to incapacitate and preserve the shooter for prosecution if you want to know the motives and who else was behind it. IF you WANT to know. A ruby red district in PA might not care to know anything that disrupts their victim narrative.

Betty Bonespurs brought this on himself, it would be helpful to realize he incited political violence and an attempted insurrection that resulted in deaths and nearly shut down the transfer of power.

I think it's tin hat territory to think Donald Juanita Trump put himself in danger in a staged attempted assassination. He's too much of a physical coward and it did result in his massive bald head being exposed. If this was staged, it would most likely be engineered by a hostile foreign government who wants to help him or kill him. depending.

And the likelihood that Melania wrote that statement is as nil, but it gives insight into how the Dump campaign plans to monetize and use this to his advantage. Thank God they'll fuck that up like they fuck up everything.

His love of music???

R317 I remember that dome Rwandan journalists were tried before the court in Hague because they had been inciting war crimes with their writing.

The media hold their part of responsibility. You see all these stupid posters here, hysterical, hateful and what for. Because of two parties thag are both working for big corporations and struggling for power.

Only in this case the Dems are working for Blackrock's interests in Ukraine that Trump doesn't care for and this is the reason for all the hysteria in the media.

of course they had to kill him...you people are so fucking stupid! He could have unloaded a lot more shots on the crowd! and kill more people. It's not rocket science.

I don’t know who this woman is but she’s correct in everything she says.

How could anyone miss with an ar-15? Why did they not shoot to wound the shooter who was on a roof some distance away firing rounds?

Statements that prove that it’s not just maga that has a segment of the truly stupid within its ranks.

Poor Ukraine their troubles have just gotten a lot worse

R336 so close, Russia

R334, you know nothing! It's shoot to kill dumb fuck!

The video at R338 is spot on. Again, right wingers can spare me with their bullshit. I live in North Carolina and the Republican candidate for Governor has recently said some folks need killing and it is obvious he was talking about killing those people on the left.

In hour dreams R323. The Republican convention will be an absolute disaster.

Yes, r343, it will be interesting to see all those MAGAts at the RNC trying not to howl for blood. Something tells me they won't bother to read any "soften the rhetoric" memo, and will be full throttle calling for blood, an eye for an eye. Or at least an ear for an ear.

After he heard on Msnbc that Trump will occupy Canada, shoot the generals, shoot the visitors to The White house, shoot first lady, put everyone in concentration camp, no wonder the assasin lost it.

They are not exaggerated. And right derangement syndrome has been actively asking for civil war in this country for over 30 years.

R345 is ignoring the fact that the shooter was a Republican so he can whine about "the left"

Republican who donated his lunch money to Democrats, right.

[quote]If it wasn't a set-up, it will be interesting to see how he is affected both physically and mentally as the week wears on.

He will deal with the fact that he was within a half inch of being killed live on camera by buying into That Image, how he responded, and how the image will go down in history. The picture and the very fact that he survived will deepen his sense of specialness, of being a chosen one.

It will incense him and his supporters that thoughts of it all being set up were almost instant. However, it was Trump above all who popularised the term 'fake news', and encouraged the blanket dismissal of any reporting which questioned his brand. He's earned withheld sympathy, to say the least.

$15 what a huge commitment R348 and it's likely a lie.

r345 *loves* her Sky News!

R347 besides, I never call these people the left. They are corporate neoliberal puppets. They hijacked the left and turned it to Big money serfs.

😂 The trolls on this thread, do they train you guys by trying to convince 5th graders? The cult will still love Trump no matter what, but the rest of us are damn sick of the drama, the rhetoric and violence. Government should be working quietly in the background keeping us safe and secure. They're not suppose to be the main attraction

Go fuck yourselves

Don’t make me horny R314

He's gonna think he's fucking invincible!!! That he can do whatever the fuck he wants if he gets elected, thanks to cunts in supreme court

R348 that was debunked you lying piece of shit

I’m going to save Nancy the bunk next to me in the liberal detention camp, if it comes to that.

Real left takes care of working majority. This "left" works for the elites and uses minorities and lgbt as useful idiots.

You got blood on your face, you big disgrace…

R356 it was debunked by people who claim that Trump organized this in cooperation with lizard people.

Not one person is going to change their vote because of this. It will be forgotten in a week.

Hold my beer.

[quote] kids from white upper middle class neighbourhoods usually are not Magas, they are liberal.

You’re an idiot and not even American. Fuck off, troll.

R361 is going to be very unhappy for the next few months.

It was not forgotten in Reagan's case. It brought him support.

I would have made the still image my screensaver R314.

R363 I am an immigrant, do you have anything against it?

[quote]Donald's passion — his laughter, ingenuity, love of music, and inspiration

It's one of life's great mysteries then that not one iota of any of this has ever been even glimpsed by the voting public. Very odd indeed to hide such qualities when you're in public life and courting popularity. Perhaps now after such a shock to the system, Trump can heal his people by sharing his inspirational human facets.

most people I know who are voting for him coz they think the economy will be better with him in charge...

they don't care about anything else.

[quote] The shooter deserved to die after a fair trial. The American habit of blowing someone's head off on suspicion they did something is not justice, and leads to conspiracy theories.

Go back to sleep, moron.

Besided, xenophobe at R363, everybody knows that Maga are working class and Dems are the elites.

Powerful

And they are stupid because everytime Republcans have been in charge of the economy, it is has gone seriously wrong.

the only thing I find suspicious is that there is no info about this kid's parents, background, friends etc etc...usually we would know alot by now...

His father gave him the rifle. Somewhere i saw that. He didn't buy it himself.

R374

R371 You are repeating something MAGA wants the country to believe. You are demonstrably wrong. Upper incomes are MAGA, Dems are disproportionately middle and lower income.

Data, your friend.

R376, thank you.

"LET ME GET MY SHOES!" 👠👠

Meanwhile:

What about Stormy Daniels or Karen MacDougal, Melania?

Every accusation is a confession

it's being reported that they found explosives in a car near the scene.

I think this is going to backfire spectacularly on the Trump campaign. No one seems to be buying it, except the cult members. It just seems like such a setup.

Talk about birth certificates? How about releasing some photos of the so-called wound? People are already combing through the video frame by frame like the Zapruder film and it’s not going to stand up to scrutiny. Seems like Trump jumped his cue, thinking the SS sniper was the shooter, etc. Plus, in this version of events, the SS have a LOT to answer for.

And they’re still clinging to the “grazed by a bullet” story - have you seen the bullets? Seems very unlikely. He would’ve lost his ear, at the least.

Anyway, I think everyone, except for Trump, is going to move on pretty quickly from these amateur theatrics which just lack the authenticity of real life. He’ll probably post something like, “…and they’re saying we did this and this…” and inadvertently admit the whole plot.

At any rate, this isn’t going to be the game changer they thought it would be. And Democrats need to submit gun legislation for a vote in both chambers to shut these whiny bitches up.

[bold] JoeMyGod [/bold]

The Associated Press reports:

Two law enforcement offiials tell The Associated Press investigators believe the weapon was bought by the father of Thomas Matthew Crooks, who’s been identified as the shooter, at least six months ago. The officials said federal agents were still working to understand when and how Crooks obtained the gun and gather additional information about him as they worked to try to identify a possible motive. The investigation is focused on Crooks.

Read the full article. In a paywalled story, the Wall Street Journal is reporting that “explosive devices” were found in the shooter’s car.

[quote] I think this is going to backfire spectacularly on the Trump campaign.

Here’s hoping. I think it could go either way at the moment. I don’t have faith in a great part of the America public anymore. They’re so dumb and gullible they’ll probably be getting images of bleeding Trump tattooed on their gelatinous fat asses.

Maybe for you, R323. But the Democrats are not giving up. Not to this clown show.

Now run along.

How on earth could this be faked? They groomed a 20 year old shooter and he agreed to be shot in the head? Unlikely.

He obviously put the lives of the Secret Service in grave danger when he stopped for his cover girl photo op

European papers are already showing photos of trump with some kind of silver thing on his ear.

R387, he probably wasn’t told that part. It was probably “you just fire a few shots and then there will be a car waiting for you here…” The patsy never knows they’re the patsy.

Imagine JFK standing up in the limo after the first shot and posing like a supermodel

Democrats sound as stupid as Qannon with their conspiracy theories.

[quote]European papers are already showing photos of trump with some kind of silver thing on his ear.

Link please

We'll know or not whether this was staged by how Trump reacts to the Secret Services' next instructions to him: NO PUBLIC APPEARANCES.

This should make him implode Bigly.

R392 they really are fruitcakes. It is usually the right wingers, but give them the chance, they are as crazy as David Icke.

This occasion exposed that many "progressives" ard equally crazy, gullible, irrational and bloodthirsty as right wingers.

"friend" of shooter said he was mercilessly bullied in high school. Just like many mass murderers.

Any other info about the ear damage caused by shrapnel? Hard to believe that a bullet would do so little damage.

[quote]I wonder how long this America must unite bullshit will last. Trump is still a dangerous man.

Exactly. It never began, so how can it last? This isn't a 9/11 caliber event where we can wrap ourselves in the flag and sing "God Bless America." With Trump's narcissistic ego, he probably thinks they are of equal importance.

If he wins the election, don't be surprised if July 13th is declared a national holiday of "patriotic resistance," where the MAGA faithful gather to fist-pump and flash fuck you signs at the media before Trump comes out and recounts how he triumphantly dodged radical leftist democrat bullets. Of course there will be a ton of merchandise sold there with the proceeds going to the "Committee for a Third Term of Making America Great" (aka going into Trump's grifting pocket). Crazy, but tell me you couldn't see something like that happening based on all we've seen in recent years.

[quote]Mike Lee, [bold]he of the face like a giant slapped ass[/bold], who is on video talking about wanting to get rid of social security and then claiming he does not at Biden's most recent SOTU?

LOL, R306! You perfectly described that bastard. Too bad he isn't up for election until 2029, because it would be a great slogan for his opponents to use in a campaign.

I keep wondering what would have happened if Trump was killed. MAGA would have gone open season on shooting Democrats.

Democratic congressman's staffer is FIRED after saying she wishes shooter Thomas Crooks had 'better aim' in vile post after Trump's near-assassination

When all is said and done the shooter will not be a serious gop or a dem.

He is going to be like a lot of young cons and lib young men today. A loser maybe an incel with no prospects for the future no hope for a good future no education or training just someone living at home with the parents without a trade or a career reading and posting on social media and full,of hate.

These types post on maga related forums we have our share of them on DL.

Did he really call for the assassinstion of Hillary Clinton? How are people voting for him?

Ex-volunteer fire chief Corey Comperatore ID’d as Trump sniper victim, shielded his daughter from assassin’s bullets

R399 many "leftists" just like right wingers are people with serious issues which makes them easy pawns in the fight between factions of oligarchy.

Minorities often carry lot of resent, like blacks do for whites (James Baldwin wrote about this venom still in 60s) gay people, we know it, have been bullied and ostracized, some immigrants didn't feel at home and accepted, which all makes them good pray for the elites that use them as weapon in culture wars against the working class white majority.

We are going to remain serfs, with unaffordable housing, without health insurance, being victims of price gouging until people realize this.

R400 it’s all the same 🤷🏻‍♂️

A high-schooler donating $15.00 to ActBlue after the July 6th, 2021 insurrection doesn't say much as everyone was fired up and emotional at that time. Even die-hard Republicans were upset at what happened and were condemning it. Of course, when the furor died down, they went back into their caves and continued to support Trump. He registered as a Republican nine months later so maybe he got caught up in Maga conspiracy sites. A lot can happen in nine months and he supposedly had mental health issues. Three years later who knows what was going on in his head?

So far, it seems to be a lone act by a mentally deranged young man who was bullied mercilessly in high school and liked to wear hunting gear to school. Maybe he was on a suicide mission and thought taking out one of the most famous men in the world would give him fame and notoriety. and also a big FU to his bullies. His motivations may have been about his own legacy and have nothing to do with personal politics. Unfortunately for him, he is now seen as the would-be assassin who couldn't shoot for shit. In other words, a loser.

[quote]When all is said and done the shooter will not be a serious gop or a dem.

I’m feeling this way too because the shooter lived only 43 miles from the Trump rally, and probably saw an opportunity to make a name for himself by assassinating Trump. He might have done the same if it were Biden if he was a mentally ill loner on a suicide mission. Thank god he didn’t shoot up a school. One thing’s clear: the SS royally fucked up, maybe intentionally (if you’re a conspiracy theorist.)

Sorry R405 — I pretty much restated what you said.

He called for the Assassination of 2016 rival Hillary Clinton and these fucking MAGATS still voted for him!

I can't believe anyone who hears or reads about this orange numpty whining about needing his special slippers before allowing other human beings to relocate them all to safety, thinks he's not a degenerate pussy.

"Let me get my SHOES!"

Oh, ok. Should we also wait while you touch up your mascara and freshen your lip coating, too Donna?

Honestly, how do the Dems play this leading up to the election? Or do they try to ignore it? I don't think they can say much. To use a "set up by the right" angle, there would have to be absolute definitive proof, which there won't be - either simply because it isn't the case or because it would take a lot of time for agencies and report commissions to finalize such a finding. Dems could say it was a terrible act but shows the problem with guns and violent rhetoric, but that would only fire up the Magas who would call it "victim blaming."

The bro at R407 is lying, because the older guy don't have the same address.

one of the reports was that the relatives of the shooter (his aunt and uncle) says they haven't spoken to the family in years. They said the family was very private. I bet these people were Nra Qannon low lives.

[quote]because the older guy don't have the same address.

oh dear

R411 don't play stupid, there are many wvwn of this site who called for and regretted that Trump wasn't assassinated.

With common sense and heartfelt pity for the victim.

This wouldn't have happened, had we had better mental health care in America. Do you know which party wanted to spend MORE on mental health care? Do you know which of the two presidental candidates lobbied for more funding for mental health care? Do you know which presidental candidate made it easier for crazy people to purchase firearms? Do you know which party wants less AR-15s, in the hands of people like this guy? Do you know which party wants more AR-15s in the hands of people like this guy?

I'd start with those questions and the answers to those questions.

And if those Republican bitches hollar or the media pundits whine, I'd ignore the noise. Because you're talking to the voters, not those losers. And, that's straight talk backed up by how each party has voted and each president has legislated.

*party wants fewer

R416 they wanted, why didn't they do it. They have spent 11 years in office out of last 15. Obama had supermajority. Had hr spent 1/10 of the trillions whit which he bailed the banks and lead wars in Middle east, (or Biden what he spent in Israel and Ukraine), the poor guy would have gotten the therapy.

R418, they spent all of their political capital on Obamacare during Obama’s supermajority. Again, the Democratic Party was and is focused on trying to HELP people. Nice try though.

What exactly happened to Trump’s ear? He said it was pierced, but was it grazed? Did he need any stitches?

[quote]I keep wondering what would have happened if Trump was killed. MAGA would have gone open season on shooting Democrats.

1. This is America in 2024, plenty of Democrats are armed.

2. Democrats don't need to display their political allegiances on everything from flags, to cars, clothes and hats to let everyone know who they support, thus making themselves less obvious targets in this scenario. MAGAs have the monopoly on that by far.

3. Trump isn't president yet and though dysfunctional, we still have rule of law. Other than overtly political places, like campaign offices, there isn't any way to know who is a Democrat or not. If they are randomly shooting people they 'think' are Democrats, they are just committing another mass shooting and will likely end up being killed by law enforcement in the process.

4. Its not politically savvy to endorse the actions of a mass killer because he/she "stood up for the cause." Any Republican running for office would instantly lose the support of sane independents and undecided voters if they even looked like they were trying to justify the actions of a murderer.

5. Vote in November and encourage everyone around you to do so. These crazy bastards don't belong in any governmental position making decisions that affect all of us. Don't let anyone tell you that this election has been decided this far out. More things will happen, good or bad, that could impact the outcome. Did anyone think we'd be talking about an assassination attempt last week? No.

Trump is lucky it wasn’t a deranged ex-military sharpshooter. We are not so lucky.

Is everyone not tired of this shit yet? His ear was cut from a piece of teleprompter glass. A cultist was killed. Got it. Can we move on to yelling from the rooftops about Project 25, which actually matters?

I'm impressed with how well Biden is handling the situation. He's doing all the right things and looks presidential and reassuring. I hope Independents will want that in November instead of Trump's chaos and violence. If Republicans act like maniacs at their convention this week, it will turn off a lot of voters.

The FBI needs to interview Stephen Miller pronto.

Exactly, R424. Enough of the crazy. If you want to live in a reality show, contact old Wonk Eye. Give me calm, for the love of God.

No more MAGA nut bags. Go to Russia with that bullshit. You'd love it there.

[quote] I'm impressed with how well Biden is handling the situation. He's doing all the right things and looks presidential and reassuring. I hope Independents will want that in November instead of Trump's chaos and violence.

Wishful thinking can conjure up all kinds of thoughts, can’t it?

R419 don't lie like a child, they apent trillions on banks and foreign wars. Obamacare ain't shit. It is not universal heathcare.

Why is it harder than ever to buy a house? Why is US among five nations that don't have parental leave? Btw. why didn't Obama administration codify the reproductive right, they had the supermajority.

And Dems like to help, but they help Blackrock, not people.

The people behind the upcoming film The Apprentice should use last night’s “event” as a framing device. With Alfred Molina as old man Trump.

Biden stumbled in his speech, per usual. This doesn’t inspire any confidence.

[quote] Is everyone not tired of this shit yet?

It can’t be undone. Along with Biden’s gaffes, it’s a permanent fixture of the campaign, and the history of 2024.

R431 Only if people like you keep beating a dead horse. Time to move on.

R416 you are saying that gun violence and other forms of violent harm would never happen in the US if only we had better mental health facilities. I don’t see how anyone could argue against that.

Finally someone like yourself with such a well thought out reasonable plan you should be running things not some simpleton .

At least the liberal media and Hollywood stopped bulling Biden. These people are plain evil.

Obvi passed her best years, time to go with a new model.

"The expression on the face of Kristen Welker after she called President Biden “President Trump” while slamming POTUS’ press conference gaffe is pure gold.

Love that instant karma."

Vid of Welker's career endi g gaffe.

"Kristen Welker spent her show hammering President Biden for accidentally getting names wrong and asking if Biden should step aside, and then moments later she called President Biden 'President Trump.'"

Diapered and declined. Sad!

"Trump confuses Nikki Haley with Nancy Pelosi when talking about Jan. 6

The former president has previously mixed up President Joe Biden and former President Barack Obama, among other flubs."

But are we surprised he didn't?

[quote]This wouldn't have happened, had we had better mental health care in America.

Cough, Cough, Bullshit! Every other 1st world country have mentally ill people with minimal mental health care, they still don't have shootings like this. It's uniquely an American problem with easy access to guns.

R437 the real joke is going to be on me and you and Joe and all those Dems trying to win in a battle ground election.

But in-the mean time continue to make fun of the future winner.

Last 7 days ending yesterday ended any chance Biden had to beat Trump.

Fuck off

I can’t believe that everything thinks this wasn’t entirely staged.

R439 are you making fun of me and my statement while I am making fun of someone else’s statement?

I agree , claiming we could end gun violence in the US if we only spent more money on mental health care , is an example of why the GOP is doing as well as they are. It’s soft bullshit thinking.

R411, we push for gun control. Unfortunately, Trump isn’t the only victim of a shooter and plenty, as we know, have died at the hands of a shooter.

So we say, join us, won’t you, in strengthening our gun control laws to prevent this from happening again.

We don’t have to say more than that. Focus on the issues. It’s not our fault Republicans put these automatic assault rifles in people’s hands. He’s lucky it wasn’t worse, like he could’ve had his face shot off like those children he were mercilessly killed at Sandyhook Elementary.

What a fantasy world you inhabit, R442.

Poor fellow...

From a purely technical standpoint, it's amazing he was able pull this off. I mean one more inch and...

Rest in peace, brother.

I just can’t with R428 - BLOCKED.

I’m disappointed

[quote]From a purely technical standpoint, it's amazing he was able pull this off. I mean one more inch and...

Not if it was indeed just a piece of glass, r446.

R442 of course just like you said it was all staged. Everyone at my Monthly QAnon for Liberals meeting this morning was saying the exact same thing as you are. All staged just like that fake Moon US landing

[quote]From a purely technical standpoint, it's amazing he was able pull this off. I mean one more inch and...

He was an amateur, too. Imagine if he was an expert. The government is probably going to commission a Popemobile for Trump.

[quote]I wonder how long this America must unite bullshit will last. Trump is still a dangerous man.

Trump should start the uniting by admitting he lost the 2020 election. Until then, he’s a danger to the country.

Yeah, I don’t get what we’re supposed to be uniting for. Gun control?

Of all possible would-be assassins this is the best outcome.

R329 Nah. If you're caught firing rounds from a long rifle into a crowd of people, you absolutely deserve to have you head blown off instantly. Any less is absurd.

I mean who are they going to crack down on? Gun owners?

I bet that those making fun of just a bloody ear , round or shrapnel, have never once been shot at. I have on a few occasions and I never came off looking as good as Trump did. That raised fist was brilliant. And a decision made quickly and under great stress.

And that picture of him fist clenched and raised with blood tripping down his face , the American flag waving in the background, that spells landslide.

And that pic of trump will be for the gop what the picture of the flag raising on Iwo is for marines.

A once very close election is no more.

A high school classmate remembered him as “slightly right leaning.” Not the profile of someone who, as a high school kid, would contribute to a progressive cause.

We tried to kill our own guy so liberals need to suffer!

[quote] And that picture of him fist clenched and raised with blood tripping down his face , the American flag waving in the background, that spells landslide.

[quote] And that pic of trump will be for the gop what the picture of the flag raising on Iwo is for marines.

You sound like a complete twat. Do stop.

R460

Tell the truth now you thought Biden was going to kick trumps ass in that debate , not end up having dozens of long time Dems calling for Joe to leave the race after the debate. Be honest now.

If you don’t understand how bad that shooting was for Biden you are part of the problem or just live in a bubble.,

I thought Biden would do a lot better than he did r461, holding his own at least. He failed miserably.

That doesn't give me any illusions about Trump or any stupid belief that now the entire country embraces Trump and is ready to join the Trump Cult. And no the fact that somebody fired shots at him doesn't change that. He's as disgusting and despicable and ridiculous today as he was two days ago. And half the country may feel a twinge of sympathy for him right now, but a lot less than it would for somebody who doesn't constantly stir up hatred and division. In fact, most people will see this as "Chickens coming home to roost." You shriek and howl constantly about being everybody's "retribution" and float little lists of who you're going to destroy in your next presidency, and some of that is going to come back and bite you in the ass. Or the ear.

Why is it that some Twitter links preview here and some don't? I have 'show link previews' selected in my settings.

Anyway, don't know who this guy is, but he's right.

MSNBC wringing their hands rn - how can we go on saying Trump is an enemy of democracy or a threat after this tragedy, etc. Democrats are going to basically ask him to be president in response to this. We are SO weak and pathetic. If this happened to Biden, Trump and his sons would have been tweeting memes about it nonstop.

the rumor about the motive is that he was a trumper who turned on him over epstein

R463: The short answer is "twitter" links preview most of the time (unless it's adult content) but "x" links never will.

When you go to post, change "x (dot) com" to "twitter (dot) com" and you'll have a better chance of it working.

No worries. Ronan is on the case.

🙄

These people who think shooting = votes are real simpletons.

Gerald Ford = lost

Teddy Roosevelt = lost

Just put the Kool Aid and laughing gas down for a second. It’s going to be a LONG 4 months to November. It’s less than 2 weeks ago that SCOTUS gave Trump Presidential immunity. A lot is going to happen. This is not what will be driving voters to the polls in November.

Most people already thought Trump was a big, fat fucking mess. This just makes him seem messier. Only the cult members are into this. The rest of us still see a fucking psychopath.

The idea that people are suddenly going to go, “Oh, now I feel SORRY for that big, fat AUTHORITARIAN bastard who wants to take even more of my rights away - I’m going to vote for him to help the BILLIONAIRES!” is ludicrous. You’re a real cult member if you think so because you’re obviously just tuned into the cult of personality not policy.

Get a grip. All this week, all MAGA is going to do is sew division, trying to blame Democrats for this and probably threaten violence. And most Americans are going to say, “Well, you should support gun control legislation.” Which they don’t. Anyone who asks them about it will get a response like “Who dat…?” I mean, get real. The rest of the country does not love Trump the way you do. At some point, he’ll have to speak to an issue other than himself. That’s what real voters are interested in. Not the reality tv assassination.

R468 makes a lot of sense

[quote] Most people already thought Trump was a big, fat fucking mess.

You mean, of course, most people you know and people you listen to. Meanwhile, in the rest of the country, the polls show at least 45% to 50% support Trump. Don’t fall into the trap of thinking that the opinions from the highly curated set of sources you listen to represent the country.

Time for Biden to resign for health reasons and have President Harris take over.

Or another approach is for Dems to repeat over and over again that trump is a really bad person who should never be president again exactly what everyone has known for years. The same fucking Dems who were so sure trump would duck the debate rather than lose so bad to Joe.

Instead after the debate lines of Dems demanding that Joe must go.

Fucking idiots.

[quote] the rumor about the motive is that he was a trumper who turned on him over epstein

I've heard that as well, which does not help Republicans who want this to be about Biden/Democrat's "rhetoric". the media did a fantastic job of hiding Felon45's connection to the Epstein files and now their self righteous victimization will expose the one thing that has any potential to soften support for their candidate.

Which is why asshats like Mike Lee @r300 are trying to make it go away while the shrieking banshees are still pushing culture wars

Trump’s MAGA base tops out at 35%. The rest are Independents, Swing Staters, suburban white women, and blacks who he needs to get. That’s not going to happen.

[quote]Both of Crooks’ parents worked as social workers, according to state license records. His father is registered to vote as a Libertarian and his mother is registered as a Democrat, state voter records show.

Neither parent was a Republican.

R468 One of the more coherent comments here...

Here, and other social media, all America is fragmenting, blaming each other, jerking off with poisonous righteous anger.

Trump and MAGA broke America... I mean there were cracks and fissures, but grabbing pussy, submitting to Putin, racists are good people too, immigrants poison the blood.... "If you don't fight like hell, you won't have a country anymore..."

Well, everyone fought like hell, and, yep, we have no country anymore.

This whole thing is going to be a right wing money grab to fleece the suckers and rubes some more. Even the lower tier GQPs like Fat Rhonda and Krystle Gnome are in on it.

[quote]And a decision made quickly and under great stress.

Sure, Jan.

Ask Mark Burnett what's next?

Questions...

[quote] This whole thing is going to be a right wing money grab to fleece the suckers and rubes some more.

That reminds me of the Congresswoman who started selling t-shirts commemorating her dustup with MTG.

You know what would be funny, if this was all planned by Trump and he was totally in on it but no bullets were suppose to come even close to him, but the powers that be behind the scene decided this would be a great time to get rid of Trump. Maybe make Don Jr the nominee who is so weak minded they could easily control him. Not saying I think this is what happened but wouldn't be surprised if this turned out to be the case but either way we will probably never know.

How are things in Vladivostok, R457?

And oh yeah, consider yourself blocked

R457, have you viewed this newly released footage?

The news outlets are staying quiet about whether he was shot or hit by glass. Is there confirmation one way or the other of how he was injured?

[quote] So faking mad about what the left has put this man through and now assassination attempt. Nobody should have to go through what they put him through.

Quote on Facebook (cut and paste)

Wonder if the father knew that his son took his gun. He was only 20. Did he still live with his parents?

Any reporting whether the piece of shit even went to the hospital or did they just throw a band-aid on his ear?

Also, he apparently went golfing today. The day after one of his “fans” was killed with a bullet “meant for him.”

Ronan's on the case

Also, several Trump minions, including Bannon, Stone, Fuentes and Kirk were talking assassination four months ago. Not sure how this all came together, but it’s too suspect. Somebody needs to speak up.

CNN keeps interviewing Trump supporters who were at the rally and I'm surprised at how hick-like they all sound. I know Trump voters are mostly trashy, but many of these people sound almost southern to my ears (I'm Canadian). What's up with that??

[quote] Also, he apparently went golfing today. The day after one of his “fans” was killed with a bullet “meant for him.”

Alec Baldwin had an actual party after his case was dismissed, despite the fact that he had killed someone. I guess it happens.

There is a large group of Trumpets who follow him from rally to rally. Like the Deadheads used to follow The Grateful Dead.

The fake JKF, Jr, Build the Wall suit guy, and others.

It's their life now.

After golfing earlier today, Trump went for a fitting of his RNC outfit.

Fuck off, R492. Ho back to sucking Trump’s mushroom, bitch.

Option #2 in the event that it’s too warm at the RNC

I hope a case of beer bottles “accidentally” falls on him when he does a photo op tour of a brewery. Bitch is in Final Destination mode now.

R466, thank you for the Twitter link instructions

r472 And statements like that by Republicans are why I will not be cowed into sympathy for that dangerous Hitler-wannabe and his ear boo-boo or his hideous family or his hideous followers. The left must not be cowed by this. We cannot let the media tell us we can't go just as hard at trump as we need to.

We never- ever- call for violence, but some people do. I can't remember their names. Was it democratic legislators? Who was it?

Ah yes...the right calls for violence and second amendment solutions constantly. Fuck them all.

I fear that it is the U.S. that is in Final Destination mode, r496.

I'd rather never suck another cock if I had to get my mouth anywhere near Orange Jesus' micropenis, R494. Those dumbfats do follow him from rally to rally. It's like a traveling freakshow.

Honest Question. How exactly is the man who died at the rally a "hero".? He was a fireman and certainly a hero for that. But he just went to a political rally on a Saturday. How does THAT make him a hero? If showing up makes you a "hero", then [bold] EVERYone [/bold] who attended was a "hero". ?

Thank you to R466 for the Twitter link instructions.

Not sure if true, but the Thomas Crooks that was a registered Republican that shot at Trump may not be the same Thomas Crooks that donated to liberal causes.

[quote]You know what would be funny, if this was all planned by Trump and he was totally in on it but no bullets were suppose to come even close to him,

But nobody figured in that Donald would be hit by flying glass from a teleprompter screen.

R484, there are contradictory reports. Both Axios and Newsmax were told that Trump was hit by shattered glass. The (Failing) NYTimes has published photos that seem to show Trump being grazed by a bullet.

R501, I've read accounts that he shielded his kids with his body during the shooting.

Those photos are not of a bullet.

If Donald were hit on his upstage ear, it was not by a bullet coming from stage right.

The gunman was firing from in front of the stage.

The NYT is the Grassy Knoll.

R504, the major news outlets are strangely quiet. You would think that they'd be making the most of the 'TRUMP SHOT! IN! EAR! headlines that ramp up their ratings. Also, I expected Fox to be screaming it in every headline to get his base fired up even more.

Tim Robbins is telling you now so that he doesn’t have to tell you later.

This is how law enforcement removed the dead body? WTF.

Wasn’t it a crime scene? Aren’t there procedures to follow?

Oops the link

He’s so gross.

Someone posted he’s like Rasputin and he really is.

We lost this election yesterday. Biden will not overcome this. Our lives will be hell for at least 4 years.

He was rejected from the school's rifle team for being a bad shot and making concerning jokes. Schools have RIFLE TEAMS now?!! Dear god, America is fucked.

I’m surprised there has been more said about divine intervention, but maybe I just haven’t come across it. I saw Vivek mention it though.

I think Trump’s team got the idea from the RHONJ.

I’m sending this to Ronan Farrow.

[quote] Schools have RIFLE TEAMS now?

My high school had a rifle team, but they just twirled them.

he covered his kids with his body and got killed. Firemen are heroes.

[quote]We lost this election yesterday. Biden will not overcome this. Our lives will be hell for at least 4 years.

You mean a Republican former President had an attempt on his life the same week he voiced complete support for the NRA and you think this will benefit him?

Please return to Earth1.

R515 Are you kidding? From the pulpit of every white evangelical SUV church this morning... "... and thank you Lord Jesus for protecting your servant Donald. Lead him and us to your greater calling for us, to establish your law and love in this country. Let nothing stand in our way Lord. And all the people say.... Amen."

[quote] Also, several Trump minions, including Bannon, Stone, Fuentes and Kirk were talking assassination four months ago. Not sure how this all came together, but it’s too suspect.

No honor among...psychopaths

[quote] We lost this election yesterday. Biden will not overcome this. Our lives will be hell for at least 4 years.

If this event effectively puts an end to efforts to replace Biden on the ticket, it could be that, not the shooting itself, which proves dispositive.

R519 Such a long, long way until november, but I can see a reaction to this whole thing is a way that hurts him... folks just tired of the noise, and violence, and instability.. the chaos.

In a perfect world, Biden would step down, Harris would defer to Shapiro. And Shapiro/Harris, or Shapiro/Whitmer would lead us to victory. Shapiro: ethical, solid, the adult in the room, smart, articulate, hopeful, inspirational about the future. Truly, most of America, right, center, and left, are ready just move beyond this craziness.

Yes, R512, he’s like Rasputin. If Rasputin faked his drownings and shootings and bullied the courts to save his ass.

This put Trump in the white house. The Democrats look weak and Trump looks strong. Most of you don't seem to understand that tons of people like Trump and half the country is Republican. It's stupid to hate half the country. As far as him looking for his shoes, he probably was in a little shock, no one knows how a person will react to something like that. But the SS said the Shooter was down and the SS were the ones who got him to his feet. It wasn't his decision to stand up the SS was forcing it.

Beware the disinfo around the Trump shooting.

[quote]r525 = As far as him looking for his shoes

We know very well why he was concerned about his shoes, troll.

[quote] If this event effectively puts an end to efforts to replace Biden on the ticket

It did, and you’re right, that will ultimately have the bigger impact on the election outcome.

People saying the election was lost because of this, how do you figure people who refuse to vote for someone who wants to take their rights, their loved ones rights, and kill off Democracy...will all of a sudden say: yes. This horrible man who told gun violence survivors to "Get over it ", should be a king as per SCOTUS, because one of his own loser followers fired near him?

Do you work for CNN or MSNBC? Are you off your meds?

r526 - I will continue to say this was a false flag operation until Trump *stops* saying that 2020 was stolen.

"Not if it was indeed just a piece of glass"

Wh-wh-WHAT?? Is that what someone is saying? More Trump lies to make him larger than life?

R529, the people who are locked into which way they will vote will not be swayed. It’s the people in the middle who can be affected.

Trump already said he's alive because of God's grace or some shit. But why wasn't Jehovah helping the SS see the shooter beforehand?

"But the SS said the Shooter was down and..."

How did they know there was only one?

[quote] [R199] kids from white upper middle class neighbourhoods usually are not Magas, they are liberal.

Hahaha

MSNBC reporter was just telling about a woman Trump supporter who drove to Butler PA for the Trump rally from North Carolina, she had planed to return to NC after the rally but now she says she is driving to Milwaukee to go to the RNC convention.

These people are just fucking nuts, I can't think of a single politician that I would walk across the street to hear speak.

People claiming it's fake is a reminder that the "good guys" can be as stupid as the fascists.

People want change. They always want change. But do they want chaos? Do they want Trump? I don’t think anyone in the middle will be swayed by this. In fact, I think it will remind everyone that he’s dangerous and thrives on chaos.

The fact that the Democratic Convention goes second is a huge benefit. When independents listen to Trump and listen to Biden, they like Biden more.

[quote] These people are just fucking nuts, I can't think of a single politician that I would walk across the street to hear speak.

Same with donating money to a candidate.

[quote] The fact that the Democratic Convention goes second is a huge benefit.

The Democratic convention in 1980 also went second, renominating Jimmy Carter.

[quote]People claiming it's fake is a reminder that the "good guys" can be as stupid as the fascists.

It's merely a case of turnabout is fair play, r536. Again, I'll say it wasn't staged as soon as Trump says 2020 wasn't stolen.

I don't think Trump getting shot at will change many votes but while a few people might vote for Trump because of this, there is probably a roughly equal number of people who will remember Nikki Haley saying where ever Trump goes chaos follows and will decide they just don't want the chaos that follows Trump.

But they won't vote for Biden they will stay home. Only hard-core democrats want him to win and that is a small number. The swing states were already for Trump and I think he added a lot of voters after the attempt on his life.

This Forbes article demonstrates the quality of conservative analysis these days….

Sorry if this has been posted earlier. The thread has grown 140 posts since I last checked. It's par for the doofus course:

NEW: Thomas Crooks was rejected from the high school rifle team, per @CBSNews

A former member of the team who graduated with Crooks said he tried out freshman year. “He never returned to tryouts for the remainder of high school.”

Classmate said Crooks was a bad shot @KDKA

[quote] Sorry if this has been posted earlier.

You can scroll to the bottom of the thread and then do a Find from your browser to check before posting.

Is anyone else just tired of this shit? I mean here I am posting about the election and the drama so I am a hypocrite. But we need new characters in this story. And the bloated dishonesty of this show biz huckster dictator... exhausts me. Anger, lying, violence, chaos chaos chaos....

America deserves better.

R546, wherever Trump goes, chaos and disaster follow. Maybe his cultists have nothing in their lives, but the rest of us have other things we’d rather be doing.

Why does America deserve better? We are not a great country anymore.

There are times I think that Americans are too willfully ignorant.

[quote] But they won't vote for Biden they will stay home. Only hard-core democrats want him to win

Bullshit. Anyone who doesn't favor a fascist dictatorship wants Biden to win.

A lot of people failed to notice that the biggest, most vocal people who stood by Biden the last two weeks were black voters. They’ve got Joe’s back.

The other BIG thing that people are missing about all the conspiracies flying around is: PEOPLE WOUIDN’T PUT IT PAST THEM TO FAKE THIS.

That tells you how much people distrust Trump and his campaign. Not exactly the kind of feeling that moves people to vote for you.

The MAGA party is trying to cow the country into getting behind Trump, as if this incident demands it.

On Tyranny Lesson 1: DO NOT OBEY IN ADVANCE

Seeing some takes that Trump's response makes him look strong, brave. I looked at all the clips closely, he looked crazed when he was hauled upright, saying wait get my shoes, fist pumping and mouthing fight. He returned to his club/home to play golf the next day. Cracked a joke to his cart boy, the difference between himself and the shooter is he doesn't miss. Like a true narcissistic sociopath he escaped any consequence, and is crowing about it. Never mind about the people in the stands, the ones shot. The event is in his rear view mirror, save the use he can make of it.

The main reason behind all the theories of staging is that both his fans and his haters know him to be a crazy liar, pulling stunts, turning everything into photo ops and fodder for his merch. This is the same man who has lied consistently for decades, called newspapers posing as John Barron with lies he wanted planted about himself, drew hurricane paths with a sharpie on live tv, misled the country with bizarre Covid briefings, withheld classified docs, perhaps sold state secrets, allowed his daughter and son in law into the WH in order to establish ties globally. There were times he was accompanied by a "fake" Melania when she just stood at his side, fully a six inches shorter than his wife.

People suspect him of staging a shooting resulting in the deaths of two of his followers BECAUSE they know him to be capable of it. The MSM and their masters refuse to publicly acknowledge what they know. He is not normal, he is a cluster of personality disorders dominated by his narcissitic sociopathy and sadism.

[quote]Only hard-core democrats want him to win

People who don’t want a dictator in the White House want him (or his successor) to win.

[quote]I think he added a lot of voters after the attempt on his life.

Who in the hell would vote for him now that didn’t before? Why would such a superficial injury motivate people to support him?

There will be another news story that takes over in the coming weeks. Everybody was talking about Biden potentially stepping down just 24 hours ago, and now that story is over. This weekend won't even be on voters' radars come November. '

Uh, Biden dropping out is not over. That crisis is still active. Stumbling Joe has lost the confidence of his party,

Every time Biden makes a public appearence everyone will be waiting for him to fuck up. He is toast. I wish they would put anyone else up.

“Anyone else” will not do better.

[quote]I wish they would put anyone else up.

Yeah, r558, wishing will do it.

How do you know that? Information moves fast with social media. Look at Britain which just had an election in a very short amount of time. We could have a quick convention and figure out someone else who is younger and able to speak in whole sentences.

[quote]Look at Britain which just had an election in a very short amount of time. We could have a quick convention and figure out...

Yeah, r561...no. You absolutely refuse to pay attention, don't you?

This Dump assassination in PA is great national exposure for Governor Josh Shapiro.

Shapiro will be ignored. Nobody cares about state governors.

Fuck you, r457, I’ve never been shot at but I’ve never raised my fist in glorious flee after I was shot at either. Probably because that was staged too. Pity that people had to die in order to get the photo op

[quote]People suspect him of staging a shooting resulting in the deaths of two of his followers BECAUSE they know him to be capable of it

Indeed, and that he would only gain from it

Any advantage Trump may have achieved among undecided voters will be short-lived when they see his convention speech.

"Is anyone else just tired of this shit?"

Yes, but we have a lot of unprecedented things going on. Mainly, two 80-yr. olds running for President. I wouldn't let an 80-yr. old run a lemonade stand. But here we are.

It is so obviously staged, wtf!

It's over. Newsweek, Politico, Time are all calling it for Trump...Biden and his hubris has cost Democrats our very survival when he loses in 113 days.

So ridiculous. The election is months away. Vote Blue. (And get rid of Joe)

I think the problem especially now is that they don't think they can win against Trump no matter who they put up. No one wants to run right now they all want to wait until 2028 because they think if they run now it will destroy their chances later on.

Please help me.

country has finally had enough and is beginning to rise up..

The same political reporters have been predicting red waves for the last several election cycles and they’ve been wrong. If Democrats and Independents show up to vote, we’ll win despite the corporations, Russia, China and the truly bigoted trying to convince us otherwise.

As if!

Dump and his Heritage Foundation Fascism 2025 is going down in flames. The media is nothing but clickbait bullshit anymore.

Hmmm, R570. One of Politico’s articles yesterday was headlined, “National polls say Biden is still in a close race with Trump after debate.” So much for Politico “calling it for Trump.”

[bold]We have lost Democracy as we know it. Biden is going to lose. The attack on Trump played into EVERY wacky, deranged, government conspiracy MAGA-ism. [/bold]Trump Attack?. Joe did it. Jill did it. Hunter did it. Obama did it. The government did it. The DNC did it. Hollywood did it. NAME your culprit and the NUTS are out there with thousands of social media posts to back your stupidity up. Biden is not coming back from this.

So many defeatists here. So reminiscent of 2022. We have a long way to go. And it helps we’re running against Trump.

It’s over kids. Biden is weak and won’t step down and Trump is a hero. There’s no way Democrats can win under these circumstances.

Oh well, r580...

R579 = But Biden cannot attack Trump anymore.[bold] Biden is PULLING political ads against Trump.[/bold]. Democrats are screwed....

Yeah, R582, that’s gonna change in a hurry when the Republicans spend these next four days in Milwaukee scurrilously attacking Biden.

He’s only pulling them for a few days or so. That’s common in this kind of situation. After the Repub Convention they’ll be back. Dems need to do a careful analysis of their situation before their convention. If it looks like a disaster, Biden must go.

[quote]So many defeatists here. So reminiscent of 2022. We have a long way to go.

It's okay to have hope, but the world and some people in the U.S. are preparing nonetheless for a second Trump term.

[quote]Neither parent was a Republican.

Well there goes that theory that the shooter was just registered as Republican because that's how he was raised.

In fact it bolsters the idea that when he was younger still in high school he gave $15 to a democratic organization and then as he became an adult, he turned Republican.

[quote]We have lost Democracy as we know it. Biden is going to lose. The attack on Trump played into EVERY wacky, deranged, government conspiracy MAGA-ism. Trump Attack?. Joe did it. Jill did it. Hunter did it. Obama did it.

OH please, it was already like that before he was shot. Nothing has changed. It's still a toss up.

The desperation of the trolls is out of control. If it was really over, would they spend all of this effort trying to convince of it?

From r578’s link “as grizzly as it sounds . . . “

Why bring innocent bears into it?

There was nothing wrong with this kid but a society that lets anyone have serious weapons; and a society that has allowed a forty plus year republican crime spree that puts the mafia to shame. Look at the people this country has put into office. Almost every single Republican is subnormal and actively evil. You think Trump's involvement with human trafficking began and ended with Epstein? Epstein was amateur hour. Trump kept real gangsters near him to provide his supply. I think it's so funny that people are aware of the threat Trump is, but were not aware that Romney, who was smarter, more effective, and wanted to turn the country into a theocracy and PROMISED US WAR with Russia and Iran. He was also close to being as big a liar as Trump. So NO it isn't just Trump, and we've seen the Supreme Court is even worse (because they know better). The problem is the wake up call is too late, and now the public is starting to RISE UP, which should have been predicted by all the pundits, and hysterics about "violence" in a society in which violence has always been glamorized and promoted, is just funny and of course asymmetrical since Republicans in the prime time speeches this week will make literally hundreds of threats of violence.

Troll Farm Assignment tonight on the homosexual chat board in America:

Nudge them to argue with each other about what a failure Biden is, convince them he will lose, seed feeling of despair.

And Francis isn't even Russian.

Romney was also involved with discipline camps that practiced child abuse.

R591 = How sad that you think all American Democrats believe Biden is going to win. He isn't. He was losing BEFORE Saturday. For the record I live in Sacramento. Go back to your "everything is Russias fault" mindset. I do wonder WHAT your excuse will be for Biden when he loses? Will you go with the favorites and blame Russia or will you blame Democrats? God forbid you could blame the DNC or the Bidens.

"The Hand of God saved Trump"--------Lindsay Graham. Meet the Press.

Adding to the watch list

Trump called for the Assassination of his rival Hillary Clinton in 2016

I like presidents who weren't shot.

R594 or is it Boris or Ivan? What would you like to be called? Your "we are not all Russian Trolls" does not work here. Especially since I said nothing about Biden winning. You literally did what I said Russian trolls do, try and seed decent.

No Vodka for you today, just cold borscht. cold and cheap, just like your women.

MSNBC and CNN playing both sides BS and Kumbaya and yet outside their bubble, Republicans have not stopped with threats of violence and blaming the Democrats.

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