Trump assassination - fake?

It is staged, I feel really bad for the bystander in the audience who is confirmed dead.

I wouldn't put it past these monsters to shoot a random bystander just to up their ante.

How could it be staged? The Secret Service screens attendees at these rallies. Everyone has to go through metal detectors. It's the shittiest part of going to a political rally.

There's too many agents involved in that process for all of them to be part of some sort of internal Trump conspiracy. And to what end? Why bother with this two days before the RNC, where he'd get a polling bump anyway, and when he's already ahead in polls and media coverage? This is the sort of thing you stage when you're DOWN, not UP.

You’re ALL OVER the other threads including the ones you started but now made yet another one?

R4, I only started this one. I am not all over anything else.

I would always assume something like this is a legitimate assassination attempt, but with Trump , the fact that he has a grazed or "bloodied ear", I have to first assume this was a staged red flag. Just like everything he does. Unless there is compelling evidence to the contrary that this was real.

OP- people are dead. This is real. Trump is 78 and can’t afford to get crazed by a bullet.

If it turns out to be legit, I'll admit I was wrong.

But the whole thing looks like a photo op.

R6- why would the shooter be dead if this was a set up?

Please stop with the conspiracy theories.

R7, Trump boasted that he could shoot a person on Fifth Avenue and not lose a voter.

I'm supposed to believe he wouldn't have someone shoot a rally attendee to bump his numbers?

These people are irredeemably evil.

OP- the rally attendee was a vote for HIM. Why would he want to kill a MAGA voter in a swing state? Your theory makes no sense.

If it is not staged, the shooter is the dumbest idiot in American history.

totally staged

r9, makes sense to me.

R12, if you can't understand the concept of a loss leader, I'm not sure politics is a subject for you.

The "shooter" is dead so that he can't talk.

R9, this is called "a double-cross" in politics, cheap spy novels, real life and every crappy buddy cop movie you have ever seen where there are more than two killers.

"I don't think it's about guns. I don't think it's about violence."

Erm, why didn’t the shooter have a bump stock? That’s what I want to know.

faked

fake news

[Quote] Trump is 78 and can’t afford to get crazed by a bullet.

He was crazed long before any bullet, junior.

Did Album get up and sing “It Don’t Worry Me,” after the shooting?

"I'm supposed to believe he wouldn't have someone shoot a rally attendee to bump his numbers?"

WWII in Europe began on 9/1/39 with an entirely staged event.

I don't think it's too much of a stretch for the guy who planned and organized 1/6/21 to stage a fake assassination attempt. It's part of his larger plan for total control of everything and everyone if he regains the office.

The fist pumping seems a bit contrived. If it was a real, unknowable threat Trump would’ve shit his pants and hauled his fat ass off the stage.

Can’t we at least agree to not be as crazy as the Republicans?

I think there's much more to this.

There are some really low IQ people. On both sides.

You're as dumb as a Q-tard, OP.

R29, as I said, if I am handed proof this was real I will retract my argument.

I don't doubt it's staged because Trump is morally above doing such a thing (we know he's not), I doubt it's staged because he would never give up that much control. "Don't worry, he'll just graze you." Really???

OP, his followers are dimwits.

R31, it was just broken glass from the teleprompter. Not a gunshot. That probably didn’t happen in the rehearsal.

R25. The guy is VERY Risk averse. This was totally staged

Trump is a pussy. He doesn’t have the courage to agree to a psy op that involves his possibly getting injured.

Just watched the video. It looks Terribly fake.

OP, JFK's assassination was not an attempt. It worked.

I don’t know if it was staged but there’s definitely more to it. There’s no way the assassin planned this on his own. The hitter was able to fire an automatic rifle in the general area and one bullet hit the podium. He had to have had help.

This sounds about right

Where is Erik Prince? (Blackwater)

THERE IS NO WAY that the Secret Service would allow him to STAND there and fist bump the crowd and then huddle him off the stage relatively slowly, especially if there was blood.

Just what a crowd needs, a screaming woman among panic.

Fake

Staged

Allows him to declare martial law

They’re already selling t-shirts.

So now the Democrats are going to be painted blue magas and silly conspiracy theorists. It is not going to help Biden or any Democrat to spew propaganda. This was not staged and it is a serious story. It will help Trump because he doesn't look weak, he looks brave for not freaking out and doing the fist in the air as he is bleeding.

Trump can’t declare martial law, R43.

SO fucking staged

R37, read my OP again.

Are you pure trolls or pure idiots or both? How does one "stage" an assassination attempt with the would be assassin SHOT DEAD, one in the crown SHOT DEAD, and two in the crowd critically injured? You pay someone to DIE for your cosplay?

You are all complete idiots.

Not fake. Please stop with this embarrassment.

Yes-fake it was Steven Miller.

Eat shit R50-eat Trump shit!

R49, people claimed that Sandy Hook and the Boston Bombings were completely fake, with no actual victims at all. In this age of special effects, people have lost all sense of what's real and what isn't. Shown real wounds and blood, they pronounce it fake.

Fake News-Trump Fake News

Trump's Reichstag Fire.

Trump saved McDonald’s ketchup packets from lunch-very resourceful!

I would watch WTF I say OP. Shit got real. Btw Biden absolutely cannot drop out now. If he does we lose.

How can you mock this dreadful incident? EASY-VERY EASY

If he stays in we lose. He said we needed to make Trump a target a few days ago and are blaming Biden.

R57-fill of shit are you-you trumper

R60 Don’t tell me wtf I am. I plan to vote blue. Speedo recovery Trump.

Bring it on-Bring it all on.

TOTALLY FUCKING STAGED!!

ERIK PRINCE-BLACKWATER

Absolutely staged, and they'll find someone to blame so they can start attacking those people.

Antifa

Some immigrant

A gay

A trans

[quote]people claimed that Sandy Hook and the Boston Bombings were completely fake, with no actual victims at all.

Yes, but I had assumed that conspiracy-addled nutcases were a phenomenon of the right alone.

R49 there all Trump fans-whatever trump touches-Dies

Fuck these DL trumpers-This will be over in 2 days.

CNN reporting Putin sending troops to US to protect Trump.

There will have to be an investigation as to why the Secret Service and law enforcement didn't notice a sniper crawling on a nearby roof that has a view of the stage, especially when eyewitnesses have stated that they saw the sniper and warned law enforcement who did nothing in response.

[quote]R65: Yes, but I had assumed that conspiracy-addled nutcases were a phenomenon of the right alone.

Unfortunately not. I have a friend whom I otherwise hold in high esteem who is completely untethered from reality on the subject of the Boston Bombings. She thinks that the Tsarnev brothers were innocent waifs who were framed for crimes that never actually happened, apparently in order to advance an anti-Muslim, anti-immigrant agenda. The pictured devices were totally fake, and would never have exploded. The images of blood and severed limbs were fake; blood isn't that color. No one actually died. Etc. She fell completely down the rabbit hole on the subject, and for a while, she also bought into the idea that Sandy Hook was likewise faked, and that Adam Lanza was framed.

We cannot converse on those subjects at all anymore; she's completely walled herself off. And she's as liberal as they come.

Suspicious timing

[quote]How does one "stage" an assassination attempt with the would be assassin SHOT DEAD

The prevailing conspiracy this hour seems to be that the shooter was taken out to keep him from talking.

Show me the hole in his ear.

Oops, I see that r17 already reported that theory.

[quote]He said we needed to make Trump a target a few days ago and are blaming Biden.

🤨🤔

The 'shooter is dead' because he fired at Trump with an AR-15 and missed, only grazing his ear. The shots went into the crowd, killing one and injuring others. The Secret Service returned fire.

R73, the ear is plainly visible in the videos. It's not fake. That the blood was flowing freely from the nick is evident from the streaks on his cheek, which occurred when he was face down beneath the podium.

No one 'staged' a shot at Trump's head, only nicking his ear, while killing a bystander. That's not fake, and no one 'intentionally' missed. The simplest explanation is the best one: somebody tried - and failed - to kill him.

And there is no upside to any of this.

Ketchup is trending on Twitter. As in the blood being fake

Idiocy consistently trends on Twitter.

It really is all very Reichstag fiery, isn’t it?

Trump will wait until he assumes office and then use this event, which will be long stale by then, to curtail the civil liberties of his perceived enemies.

And half the country is fine with it. Which makes me wonder if we ever really had a country at all.

We also don’t know who killed that bystander. The bystander could’ve been killed by the Secret Service.

It’s being reported that Trump’s injuries are due to shattered glass, not to a bullet.

r75 = killjoy

I'm only skeptical because the cuts on his cheek look like they were done by a razor blade. Why I feel it's legit? The FEAR on the man's face. He's not that good of an actor

I don’t think it was faked, but I do think it’s a false flag. Two things can be true. The Reichstag fire was a real fire that was started by Nazi political opposition. And Hitler seized onto it in order to consolidate power for himself and sideline Germany’s constitution.

Completely fake

The Republican National Convention is this week. What a perfect (???) photo op with the blood, and the pumped fist and the flag behind him.

Have those of you who believe it's real forgotten that this guy is first and foremost in show business and knows how important optics are to his brand? There's been much talk about the 2025 project in recent days and Republican voters (some) are not happy with it.

R82 those are not cuts it is his blood running down his face because his head was down with the SS had him on the ground.

I'm just glad that little kid standing right behind Trump wasn't hurt.

[quote]R80: It’s being reported that Trump’s injuries are due to shattered glass, not to a bullet.

What shattered the glass, then? A bullet.

[quote]R82: I'm only skeptical because the cuts on his cheek look like they were done by a razor blade.

Those aren't cuts, but blood drips from when he was held facedown by the Secret Service.

[quote]R83: I don’t think it was faked, but I do think it’s a false flag. Two things can be true.

I don't think you understand the term 'false flag,' which describes a faked event. For example, 'Operation Northwoods,' had it actually been carried out, would have been a 'false flag.'

Will Trump and his people milk this incident for all it's worth? Unquestionably. But that is not the same as a 'false flag.'

[quote]Have those of you who believe it's real forgotten that this guy is first and foremost in show business and knows how important optics are to his brand? There's been much talk about the 2025 project in recent days and Republican voters (some) are not happy with it.

So are you contending that nobody was shot? (Shades of Alex Jones.) Or did the Trump campaign enlist a 20-year-old to use an AR-15 to shoot at the president from 150 yards away and only graze his ear?

This is definitely something he would do. He loses everything if he isn't reelected and so do the people behind Project 2025, something they have worked for decades on accomplishing.

Did Trump’s handlers tell him a 20 yo shooter was going to pull this stunt?

This has Stephen Miller’s dirty paws all over it. I just hope there’s a paper trail where it’s specified the shooter was to only graze Trump’s ear but also to incur “collateral damage” to make it look as bad as it did.

Better to tell him only that there would be a "ruckus" or "disturbance" of some sort, do he could froth up the crowd.

But, definitely do not warn him about the shooter. They needed his reactions to be real.

I doubt they'll tell him the truth as to who was actually behind it (his own people, Flynn, Putin), having done it in hopes of taking the narrative away from P2025 and the attention away from Biden. They lie to him, so he can embellish it to his tiny black heart's content. It will end up his ultimate "Sir..." story.

Because this was either staged or his security fucked up so badly, firing them isn't a bad enough repercussion.

Actually, dummy at R87, you’re the one who doesn’t understand the meaning of the term false flag.

[quote] A false flag operation is an act committed with the intent of disguising the actual source of responsibility and pinning blame on another party.

Look it up.

Does Melania have an alibi?

R94, Nobody fled screaming at either of those events. And yes, we do have video and still pictures.

The Secret Service in Dallas were suspiciously derelict in their duties. Don't get me started.

As for "false flags": The purpose, for example, might be to hasten the New American Century via a "Pearl Harbor" type incident.

If today's assassination attempt was a false flag operation meant to succeed, the inept shooter patsy is conveniently dead.

If today's assassination attempt was a false flag operation meant to fail, the brilliant marksman patsy is conveniently dead.

In either case, whom do you False Flag adherents suspect as the real planners? For what purpose?

As they say, "Cui bono?"

The Reagan scene I meant for r95:

Was the shooter a Republican?

It’s really fishy that’s for sure. Where’d the glass come from? The teleprompters were intact. And Trump didn’t act like he was bleeding. You’d think he’d hold a handkerchief to his face. But the blood wasn’t flowing at all. SS didn’t even cover his head on the way to the car. If it wasn’t staged it sure looked weird.

[quote] the brilliant marksman patsy is conveniently dead.

So?

[quote]Are you pure trolls or pure idiots or both? How does one "stage" an assassination attempt with the would be assassin SHOT DEAD, one in the crown SHOT DEAD, and two in the crowd critically injured? You pay someone to DIE for your cosplay? You are all complete idiots.

Oh, you sweet, summer child -- do you really think Dump and his evil group of advisors give a flying fuck about his MAGA cultists?

Put these movies into your watchlist ASAP; they'll tell you exactly how a group of extremely-determined, power-hungry white men can pull this off. And spoilers, I guess:

Three Days of the Condor

The Parallax View

Bob Roberts

Maybe he voluteered to help and they decided he could be their patsy for the Reichstag fire.

They certainly got there quickly. Is it possible they were waiting for him to succeed?

R95, all your photograph does is underline my point, which is that Reagan wasn’t doing anything brave after he was shot. I was responding to the ludicrous assertion that Reagan somehow cut an inspirational figure after he was gunned down. Reagan was not brave in response to being shot, and he didn’t receive any political benefit from being shot. So it is nonsense to assume that Donald Trump will benefit from having some protective glass shatter onto his face. We’re not even sure that he’s been shot.

"I was shot with a bullet that pierced the upper part of my right ear."

He's already lying; it was a piece of glass from the teleprompter. And gun experts, help me out: wouldn't an AR-15 bullet cause a LOT more damage to the ear cartilage?

And why wouldn't the SS have agents posted on every rooftop within a half-mile radius?

[quote] You pay someone to DIE for your cosplay? You are all complete idiots.

Happens all the time. The Japanese did it during WWII. The Palestinians did it during the second intifada. The Iraqi did it during the second Iraq war. So on and so forth.

If you clip your ear with nail clippers, it creates a lot of blood! We all know that from Agatha Christie. So does Trump.

Do we know who killed the person in the crowd, or are we assuming it was the gunman on the roof?

Do we know Trump was actually shot or did he experience another type of injury?

There are many ways that this could turn out to be complete bullshit. It doesn’t even have to be a hoax.

Well this is inconvenient for them!

Look how fast secret service hustled Reagan away after his assassination attempt; they moved instinctively. Reagan was halfway to the hospital before he even knew what happened.

Were Orange Jesus' SS people real or rentals? Or, a mixture?

Isn't his SS detail supposed to be loyal MAGA?

They definitely half-assed their job, from beginning to end.

I bet Kamala Harris was just laughing like a girl at a bonfire.

[quote]And why wouldn't the SS have agents posted on every rooftop within a half-mile radius?

How much protection is he actually entitled to? I know ex presidents get some for a while, but enough to people all the rooftops within a half-mile?

Shockingly, the wannabe assassin wasn't a "transgender leftist illegal alien"

It certainly gave Reagan a boost. He had a very unimpressive start to his presidency and then after the attempt everyone caved and just started to love him.

R113, we know nothing yet.

[quote]It certainly gave Reagan a boost. He had a very unimpressive start to his presidency and then after the attempt everyone caved and just started to love him.

That's not true. As late as the fall of 1983, his re-election was looking like a lost cause because of the 1982-83 recession. Then the economy made a drastic upward swing in 1984.

A CNN law enforcement expert just now: How did this guy manage to pick the one rooftop 150 yards away that was unguarded?

Trump's Campaign Team

"Reichstag" is trending on twitter

It's so preposterous, deceitful and played out. Its another stain on American politics in the eyes of the world.

I stand by my comment. I was alive then.

[quote]Remember when trump was on WWE where wrestlers sometimes use razor blades and fake blood capsules to make some blood for the audience without really getting hurt? I remember.

J.D. Dunce and Lauren Boebert are trying to blame Biden

Either a false flag where the "messiah" convinced one of his "disciples" to sacrifice himself and take one for the team or he did it on his own to boost his idol.

Or one of his followers stopped drinking the Kool aid and broke free from the hivemind and finally realized what an evil POS Trump is.

Also the article on Trump's assassination attempt on Wikipedia seems to have been hacked and replaced with this. 🤣

[quote] It certainly gave Reagan a boost. He had a very unimpressive start to his presidency and then after the attempt everyone caved and just started to love him.

That’s not the story that his approval ratings tells. According to the actual DATA (as opposed to your random musings), Reagan’s approval ratings did not see any significant bump after he was shot, and in fact, they were in decline starring before the second year of his presidency and continuing until well into 1984.

Thats what the DATA says.

[quote] I was alive then.

So fucking what? We all know the world is full of idiot baby boomers who don’t their ass from a hole in the ground.

You were alive. Big fucking deal. You’re still wrong.

Melania's reaction

Wow, finally! I've said from the beginning once his dumb ass hillbilly supporters figure him out they will shoot him. Hahahahaha up thread said the shooter was registered republipig jajahahahahahahajaaaaa

REGISTERED REPUBLICAN

[Quote] And there is no upside to any of this.

certainly not for Richard Simmons who Farrahed by Trump

DL fags have watched The Manchurian Candidate one too many times.

Well, for Angela's fabulous gowns anyway.

Certainly not for Richard Simmons who got Farrahed by Trump

R100 Don't forget "Wag the Dog".

This is a stunt from the mind of "John Barron."

And if it's not? It doesn't matter.

You reap what you sow. Trump, the serial liar and relentless stunt queen, has earned the skepticism he deserves.

The man told 30,000+ lies in four years in office.

The irony is that most people who are saying it's fake are likely only doing so because the target of the shooter is always saying everything's fake...

I don't think it's staged, but I do think it's gold for the Trump campaign. I'm sure the "Dems are really scared of me", "They can't beat me, so they shoot me", speeches are being written with manic glee right now. It doesn't help that Biden comes across like he's not getting enough oxygen to his brain every time he opens his mouth these days.

The Trump staffers are probably drinking toasts to the shooter right now, he may have just handed them the election.

It's the Boy Who Cried Wolf.

A fable that teaches most people a lesson when they're five years old.

When you lie about everything, don't expect people to believe you when you really need help.

[quote]I don't think it's staged, but I do think it's gold for the Trump campaign. I'm sure the "Dems are really scared of me", "They can't beat me, so they shoot me", speeches are being written with manic glee right now.

EXCEPT THE SHOOTER WAS A REGISTERED REPUBLICAN.

[quote] I don't think it's staged, but I do think it's gold for the Trump campaign.

I don't think so at all. He looked cowardly and vulnerable and the shooter was from within his party. This is absolute chaos for him.

'When you lie about everything, don't expect people to believe you when you really need help."

Biden doesn't have dementia.

Biden isn't senile.

Biden is compos mentis.

Biden looks great for 104!

Dozens of people were shouting at me with semis, with semis, they call it semi-riffles: BIM BIM BIM BIM BIM But I still got away unscathed. The Biden crime family will have to pay for that2 new crime, because they're 100% behind it. I can still hear the bullets pass my ears. BIM BIM BIM BIM..

When more comes out about his personal life it will be clear if he was Republican or not.

R103, And I was responding to your statement that the onlookers fled screaming.

Wrong, r139. People are already selling the Photo T-Shirt. Trump is The Greatest American Hero, Redux.

"President Trump, Are you angry that it wasn't Fifth Avenue?"

"President Trump, What do you have planned as retribution?"

"President Trump, Reports are that the shooter was a registered Republican. Do you think he really was an illegal immigrant who voted for Biden?"

"President Trump, You survived. Doesn't that make you greater than Lincoln AND JFK?"

"President Trump, You survived. Doesn't that make you greater than Jesus?"

"President Trump, Please call me the enemy of the people again."

Yes OP, it's evident that it was completely staged and I am saying this as someone who loathes Biden even more than I detest Trump. Just watch the video below: attendees could see that a man with a rifle was crawling around on a roof and they informed both the police and secret service agents, who played dumb. Also, Trump was a VERY easy target but the ones injured were random bystanders, while he only got a superficial flesh wound? That is UTTERLY unbelievable.

This is a shameless attempt to ensure that trump wins by a crushing majority, because he's already promised the powers that be that he will continue Biden's policies to their benefit (which, incidentally, Biden took over from him as he had taken them from Obama, and Obama had taken them from Bush, and so on). This is just a melodramatic performance designed to manipulate an increasingly discontented electorate in the most transparent way imaginable, and we shouldn't fall for it.

BASTA!!!

Conspiracy-theory thinking is not a good look.

R138 he also donated to the Dems though.

That photo of him with his fist in the air, defiant face, American flag in the background…. It just looks so incredibly staged. The fact they’d released the name of the shooter minutes (?) after the incident and Trump was acting triumphant rather than being shocked and scared shitless, like any normal human being would be in that situation. You just couldn’t make it up.

Sometimes I wonder if we’re not all living in some Truman Show type scenario and somebody, somewhere, is laughing their ass off at each new development.

No bullet actually hit him. But he was obviously shot at. He was hit in the ear by a shard of glass from a stray bullet. Some registered Republican who is a religious nut who wants to avenge the Epstein pedo victims.

R150 let's hang on to this information because there are powerful people who will want it buried. NO way will t he MAGAs accept that the shooters motivation was a pedophile and his buddy, who was probably also a pedo. So the trigger was the release of all that Epstein information. Well, well.

I don't believe it was fake now that I know a little bit about the shooter. If this had been a "registered Democrat" or some far out Left person who has a history of Trump hate online, then yeah, but this guy was just a bad shot, white, registered Republican with an assault rifle.

R124 - the opinion that it was a former supporter who felt betrayed has some traction out there.

Very difficult to believe it was staged, without the Secret Service being either complicit or wildly inept ... although I think they have a lot of 'splaining to do here.

The photo op will energize his supporters, which will change nothing politically that way. I'd think it would turn off the voters he needs?

R153 I suspect there is/will be some serious (and very secret) ball-busting going on - I can't even imagine what the Secret Service's version of Internal Affairs must be like - though it might be that the FBI just does it.

No, they would not stand for any staged horseshit.

Or the kd registered as a republican to vote against him in the primary.

My take, for what it's worth: In all likelihood, this shooting was not staged. But many things about it are extremely weird, so people who think it WAS staged should not be dismissed out of hand as crazy conspiracy theorists.

"No, they would not stand for any staged horseshit."

What complete, utter bullshit. The SS is as crooked as the day is long, and 100% in the bag with Trump. They'd do anything he tells them to do.

Not as great as Teddy Roosevelt who gave an hour long speech after being shot in the chest in Milwaukee.

The left has gone as nutty as the right. You don't need to stage an assassination when your opponent is in free fall.

[quote]"I was shot with a bullet that pierced the upper part of my right ear."

So now Trump has a pierced ear.

What would Matt Damon say?

R159 doesn't get the big picture, and isn't a student of history.

You really aren't as smart as you think you are, R159, aka DeFucktardo. Shouldn't you be licking your wounds over the Baldwin verdict?

After watching multiple videos from multiple angles and listening to the boosted sound of the take-down, I have these two observations.

1] When Trump was struck in the ear, he was in full left profile, looking at the teleprompter, on his right, with his right ear, the struck ear upstage and covered by his head. You can see him wince when the teleprompter glass hits his upstage ear. If it were a bullet that caused the right ear damage, it would have had to pass through his entire head. Conclusion: flesh wound to ear, caused by shattered glass, not bullet.

2] When Trump is down, and they are about to lift him vertically for removal, he makes multiple demands for his shoes. It is obvious that they lifted him first and then got him into his shoes, as he MIRACULOUSLY rises approximately 3 inches. When fully in costume, the hair was beyond public repair, THEN he gives the defiant fist pumps. Just like Lucy always said, because she was a physical comic, KNOW YOUR PROPS! It seems that, like Dorothy, Trump knows his power comes from his shoes. Conclusion: Conman gotta con, 24/7.

3]Also, the shrapnel was not accounted for if this was a staged attempt that went too far, and Trump was expecting to be carted off untouched after an attempt on his life. There is reporting that his vest stopped a bullet, but there is no visual evidence that he was actually hit. None of the videos show any trump recoil, except his bending down behind the podium. If he were struck while he was in profile, the bullet could have possibly entered his arm before hitting him in the ribs of the Kevlar vest. No such visual evidence. No bruised ribs. He couldn't have been hit from the front, as he bent from the waist after his ear was hit by glass. He was not facing front.

Early on in the reporting, it was reported that there were only 150 people in attendance at this Trump Stump Speech.

Is there a third party picture of the crowd? If there were only 150 supporters at this "rally", and the Secret Service did not notice the guy with the rifle on the roof, I am perplexed.

Is there a picture of the crowd?

Weren't Squeaky Fromme and nSara Jan Moore filmed? I believe they were.

Sonething about this is "off" R156. I don't see why people think the incident is a plus for him? Trump's reactions I see as a negative outside MAGA cultists.

Finally, we have an answer to the question what kind of person takes IQ tests online and thinks they're above average.

R75 for once, we agree.

r75, PD, your post is 12 hrs old. Have you rewatched the videos again?

R140 is probably busy photoshopping Trump's head onto the body of a 20-year-old MMA fighter while blaming "antifa" for the shooting

R155, he registered to vote right after turning 18 and voted in the 2022 midterms

Was the shooter a fan of Taxi Driver?

R171, now do all the times Trump has encouraged violence

OK R172

R162, And why, if Trump were the target, would the SS LIFT HIM UP into a presumably better view for the gunman?! We the onlookers should NOT have been able to see Trump, never mind have him poised waving with the flag behind him, looking like a new Iwo Jima!

Odd behaviors throughout by the SS. No total protection, no real hustle.

R165, Look on TikTok. "The Photo" is now on merchandise accompanied by defiant pro-Trump captions. I said elsewhere that it, the photo, is winning somebody the next Pulitzer Prize.

R173, do you want to post the clip of Trump joking about Paul Pelosi being beaten?

Ron Johnson blaming "identity politics" and "critical race theory" because apparently those things cause white Republicans to shoot other white Republicans

R173, your fellow Republicans are the ones wearing AR-15 pins and posing for Christmas cards with AR-15s

"It's time to put Trump in the bullseye," Biden said in a July 8 call with donors to his campaign. -The Wall Street Journal

Not a good look for or President

He wsn't talking about guns, he wsa talking about policy R178 which was obvious at the time

Not a good look for a President R177

R178, not a good look for a former president

The still @ 0:32 seems to show the bullet in mid air

R179 take a look at the rhetoric from Dems regarding Trump starting @ 2:48 Considering yesterday's "attempted assassination. this will hurt the Dems

R182, take a look at all the Republicans wearing AR-15 pins, posing with AR-15s, calling for loose gun laws....

Take a look at the fact that the shooter was actually a Republican

Republicans are the ones saying "some folks need killing"

Trump basically called for "a bloodbath."

I have to wonder at his reaction to "a bullet whizzing past" his head. Who would think it would be a great idea to RISE UP AND POSE, not knowing if another bullet or three were on their way, other than someone who knew the deal?

What kind of Secret Service personnel MOVES OUT OF THE WAY to ALLOW Trump to pose?! The woman SS agent even DUCKED DOWN in order to better EXPOSE Trump! He was on that stage WAY too long before being walked, not hustled, off.

If it weren't for the dead audience member, I'd be full-on Conspiracy Theory (although it seems another "blunder" to have the gunman a registered Republican!).

R184 What happened to When they go low, we go high?

Again, not a good look for the left or Dems whose central premise is that Trump is a monster, a fascist who must be stopped at all costs.

Trump says we should "get over" school shootings, so the Trump bootlicker at r182 needs to get over this

Doesn't the shooter appear to be special? I could see him easily recruited to participate in his force.

He’s got FAS at the very least

No, but that Habsburg jaw is really something.

Fake news. Total false flag.

R186, you probably don’t even know any Democrats. You’re just going on about your wish fulfilment, thinking this someone makes us look bad - it doesn’t. The shooter was a Republican. We’re not inciters of violence or violent rhetoric. We’re for gun control. This is ALL on the MAGA party. You’ll wake up to that soon enough.

*somehow

When you stay away from cable news and message boards it’s amazing that nobody gives a shit about this

[quote]I said elsewhere that it, the photo, is winning somebody the next Pulitzer Prize.

Nah.

[quote]I said elsewhere that it, the photo, is winning somebody the next Pulitzer Prize.

Trump will nominate himself as being the main contributor to the endeavour.

[Quote] When you stay away from cable news and message boards it’s amazing that nobody gives a shit about this

I wonder if the shooter was active on social media?

Unsurprising and typical

R186, Since when was Michelle Obama the voice of the Democratic Party?

She was wrong then, and the notion is wrong now. Politics, as someone once noted, ain't Tiddlywinks. There is no seat at the table for the Marquess of Queensbury.

If there's any "After you, Alphonse" it will be so I can push you off the cliff.

Metaphorically speaking.

[quote]The left has gone as nutty as the right. You don't need to stage an assassination when your opponent is in free fall.

This isn't about Trump v. Biden, this is about variations of #PEDOTRUMP trending since before the debate, and the release of corroborating testimony of two women who were raped by Dump when they were minors.

Where did Dump disappear to for two weeks? He was off planning and rehearsing this hoax.

Trump loves nothing more than turning on the TV and watch people talking about him.

Trump is an egotistical maniac who loves constant attention focusing on him.

Trump equates big TV ratings with personal success.

Trump planned, coordinated and executed 1/6/21.

Ergo, this "assassination attempt" was just so much mind fuckery and fraud. The dead guy is just collateral damage to Trump.

So in MAGAtland today, apparently they can believe at least two opposing things before breakfast:

1. Joe Biden is a senile old coot who has handlers and is hopped up on drugs and still can't function.

2. Joe Biden is the criminal mastermind behind the assassination attempt that failed because God is with his Chosen One, OUR Chosen One, the Once and Future President Donald J. "Rambo" Trump!

Butler, PA, is the new Iwo Jima! "Raise high the flag, me boys! Raise high the flag! (But first I need my shoes! Is this my better profile?)"

R202, you do know that someone from the Trump campaign (one of the managers) said to CNN’s Kaitlyn Collins sonething like that the now iconic photo was “serious Iwo Jima shit”?

I'm sure veterans everywhere loved that comparison, R202.

They ought to have stuck with the comparisons to Jesus, instead. Especially because a lot of vets and deployed military are reading up on his administration's plans for them, should he be re-elected (P2025/Agenda 47).

The FBI needs to interview Stephen Miller pronto. His evil hooves are all over this.

[quote] I said elsewhere that it, the photo, is winning somebody the next Pulitzer Prize.

[quote]someone from the Trump campaign (one of the managers) said to CNN’s Kaitlyn Collins sonething like that the now iconic photo was “serious Iwo Jima shit”

I’ve seen it said that the photo that NYT photographer Doug Mills took will likely win a Pulitzer Prize.

I did not know, r203.

E204, It's called "mocking Trump and his followers," you know? I wasn't praising this draft-dodging bone-spurs-my-arse Mr. "STDs were my personal Vietnam" COWARD WHO HATES OUR MILITARY AND CALLS THEM "SUCKERS AND LOSERS" and I'm sorry you didn't get that.

To R204 ^

I opined that, r206.

It’s all fake. All of it. .

I don't think it was fake but the Secret Service looked horrible. I don't get the letting him get up and do his act. There could have been a secret shooter just waiting for that moment to pop him. Maybe the SS is completely intimidated by Trump or maybe they all suck at their jobs. The comparison to the Reagan shooting is crazy. They had Reagan out of there in 30 seconds tops.

If the shooting attempt was for real would he seriously have had the presence of mind, within the span of 30 seconds, to ask about his shoes and to then stand up, put his fist up in the air and yell “Fight!”? Wouldn’t he have been rendered speechless due to the shock? None of this makes any fucking sense.

Moreover, all 3 SS agents were smiling. Truth.

JFK was assassinated on a Friday. The news and funeral dominated the news for maybe 5 days.

I guarantee you this story will dominate until at least November 5th.

[quote] Maybe the SS is completely intimidated

Yes, I think they're sick of his crazy shit. Better to just let the baby throw a tantrum and cry himself out than tell him no.

r212 Remember during the first campaign when there was a loud noise while he was at a rally and he about shit has pants and grabbed onto the podium for dear life and looked like he was going to faint? But he gets shot and stands up immediately, finds his shoes, fist pumps and just stands there? I'm not 100% on the it's fake train but I'm buying a ticket just in case. It's all nuts.

Agree r215. Plus at one point he did, what looked like, a nazi salute

[quote]Maybe the SS is completely intimidated

Or maybe, the SS is actually Ultra MAGA.

Didn't you listen to all the 1/6 testimony that made them bleach their phones?

[quote]I guarantee you this story will dominate until at least November 5th.

Bullshit. MAGAworld may obsess over it, but the rest of the country (and the world) is going to move on by the end of the month, simply because in the end it was a nothingburger.

Think they’ll have the widow of the fireman that got killed, at the convention

If only I'd been there, I woulda shown 'em!

[quote] MAGAworld may obsess over it, but the rest of the country (and the world) is going to move on by the end of the month

The battleground states will hear about it up to the election, since it will surely be used in political ads.

[quote] Think they’ll have the widow of the fireman that got killed, at the convention

It would be appropriate to honor the fireman.

[quote]The battleground states will hear about it up to the election, since it will surely be used in political ads.

Doesn't mean that a lot of people are going to listen to it or give a shit. The only people who are going to pay attention to it are the ones who were already on his side. It's not like this is going to change minds.

Trump will toss boxes of kleenex to the fireman's family.

[quote] It's not like this is going to change minds.

The people in the battleground states who are undecided are up for grab and can be affected. They are the only people in this election who matter.

The attempt is already yesterday’s news. A sad almost teen loser got close enough to Trump to kill him thanks to an inept Secret Service. Trump probably hurt his ear from broken glass and not a shot. What more is there to say about it? Even the biggest MAGA can’t spin this into a Dem conspiracy.

I don’t see how the picture of a bloated Trump held up by inept Secret Service is going to change many minds.

Maybe the kid watched this and decided to help out?

Wishful thinking R226. Trump was already ahead in the swing states when the Debate happened. That iconic picture will make Trump look strong and resilient and compare him to Biden who is so old acting. Trump has already won the election barring his death or Biden steps down and even then it probably won't help at this point. Welcome to reality, everyone.

If it were Biden who was attacked, you just KNOW that trumpers would be saying it was faked.

You just know that he didn't realize it was a bullet that grazed him because, if he had, he would have been cowering on the ground and wimpering.

The reality is, R228, that the "strong and resilient" Trump is too god damned fat and/or lazy to walk up a small hill, he has to use a golf cart. Biden rides a bicycle.

That photo is only iconic to idiotic assholes like yourself who are attracted to each and every shiny new object that comes into your view, or more likely, any little bit of bullshit tossed your way by some huckster carnival barker grifter/shyster like Donald Trump.

People as gullible and stupid as you are the last ones who should be talking about reality. And quite frankly, the reality is Donald Trump would be selling used cars on a Staten Island lot if it wasn't for Trump's old man leaving him a couple million bucks (which he proceeded to lose anyway).

Donald Trump received a minimum of $400M , not $2 million.

First of all, he probably wasn't aware of the sound of the bullets. Secondly he felt a stinging on his ear, he ducked and then the SS pushed him down, as he resisted. Asshole now has a very superficial experience of what it is like to get shot at. He will milk this and be emboldened by it. And even though it is absolutely false, he will by innuendo suggest if not outright accuse, Biden and the Democrats in "creating an atmosphere to encourage violence toward him. In fact from here on out his speeches will be mostly about how he survived, and how, " they can't kill me!"

Yesterday's news is accurate. Very curious that the Secret Service left his chest totally open. Their first job is to cover his body. There could have been more than one shooter.

Maybe the SS agents were planning not to get killed for this loser.

Wasn't he wearing a vest? Someone claimed he also got shot in the chest but had a bulletproof vest on. Haven't heard anything official about that though.

He didn't get shot in the chest. Jesus, he's not fucking Superman.

Political ads? “Vote for me, I might’ve been grazed by a bullet - we’ll never tell for sure though!”

I don’t think so. Again, only cult members want to watch this on an endless loop. The rest of us? Not so much.

It was right Nazi on Nazi crime.

r228 is also:

*Just a trip down memory lane*

[quote]I think Hunter was selling secrets too otherwise why would classified Docs end up in Biden's garage? We know Hunter was into some shady stuff with his dad.

Shooter was included in ad for BlackRock. lol

Please

Because he had to shake his fists and incite more violence

R238 So what? I think Biden is corrupt. I don't like him and I'm a democrat. I have never liked him. That doesn't mean I want Trump. I am a realist and I can see the writing on the wall. I always intended to sit this election out if Biden continues to be the Democratic candidate.

R242 is Boris hiding as as a Dem

Why would the news not report it if he also got shot in the chest? Come on, folks, trust reliable sources, not social media rumor.

R238 almost everything found in Biden's garage were fucking notes. That in fact do belong to the government. Nothing like boxes and boxes and boxes being moved around bathrooms and storage rooms. Nice try.

But why were they in his garage if they belonged to the government? Why was Hunter working for Burisma and the credit card company that Biden championed? These people are all corrupt. I can't do anything about corrupt republicans but I'm sure as hell not voting for corrupt democrats. Biden helped put Thomas on the SC.

[quote]r242 = So what? I think Biden is corrupt. I don't like him and I'm a democrat.

giggle

You think Vice Presidents pack their own boxes. You are trying to compare 10-12 pieces of paper, Pence had about 20 by accident too. It happens. But they both allowed the FBI in to all their properties to be searches and nothing else was found. Trump had hundred and hundreds of files and moved to hide them. And then sweet Ivan's walks away with 2 billion dollars. It's exactly the same

*Ivanka

[quote]But why were they in his garage if they belonged to the government?

Why did Pence still have government files, r246?

r246 - Go someplace else and troll.

[quote]I always intended to sit this election out if Biden continues to be the Democratic candidate.

Then you are effectively voting for Trump. Asshole.

[Quote]That iconic picture will make Trump look strong and resilient

The MAGA see it that way. It looks like a demented reaction to others.

^this. It was fucking weird he still felt the need to to do that tiny fist in air FIGHT shit. Most people would just get the fuck out of there

R252 I don't live in a swing state so no not voting for Trump. CA is blue.

I would service the SS man to Dump's left

R252 in your tiny widdle world no one has the right to an opinion unless it is exactly like yours. You live in a bubble and never bother to see anyone else who isn't exactly like you. You must be a 15-year-old.

[quote]You must be a 15-year-old.

LoL, r257, such projection.

I also think he was more seriously injured. Probably lost a lot of blood. I've cut my ear shaving and it bleeds and bleeds and stops when it wants to.

They rushed out the 'Good spirits, good humor, anxious to move forward!" stuff real quick. The real Trump would be raging and getting the SS all fired.

Anyone with half a brain knows Junior writes all that shit. It matches exactly what he writes as himself. And a lot of it is written late at night, when Junior is coked-up and Donald is fast asleep.

Trump's ear wasn't gushing blood, which it would have been if it were a bullet graze rather than ricochet glass shard. Unless the cut needed stitches they would have stopped the bleeding with just a few minutes of applied pressure after cleaning it.

I'm actually impressed by how quick thinking Trump can be. Sure he's low IQ and ignorant but he has a fast "operator's" mind. A real snake.

Trump reacts with anger to these situations, not fear. Also, revenge (Kathy Griffin). How dare you try to destroy his wonderful wickedness?

A real manly man wouldn't have needed six people to carry his fat ass down a set of stairs.

Then again, maybe he is diaper was full.

Either way, I see an old orange man bleeding from a cut, fighting with his much younger minders, to not make their jobs any more difficult or unsafe.

I see a showoff cunt who is putting at least a half dozen other peoples' lives at risk.

I see someone too stupid to realize the policies he and his ilk have pushed on us all could possibly have cost him his life.

That's no hero. He's just an old, fat dumbass who was luckier than the kids at Sandy Hook, Uvalde, or the patrons at Pulse nightclub.

[Quote] A real manly man wouldn't have needed six people to carry his fat ass down a set of stairs.

Yes, R263 I suppose you're right

But Biden and those who will vote for him aren't voting for fake machismo, R264.

MAGAts are.

Faked

And I’m sick and fucking tired of hearing how “tragic” this was.

R265 but right leaners might actually go out and vote now. Previously they might not have

All I can say is that this news wiped “project 25” right off the news.

Deplorables (I saw it on my Facebook from a work acquaintance) are blaming Biden because he had said something about making a target out of Trump.

Nah. Everyone who loved Trump before now was going to go out and vote for Trump. If you love Trump, you wouldn't stay home because when you live him, you looooooove him.

Never Trumpers have issues with who and what Trump is, which wasn't magically changed yesterday. He didn't become a different guy or a brand new man. So, the Never Trumpers aren't going to vote for him because of this.

Democrats weren't and won't.

The undecided voters have three months and some weeks yet. And by election day, if Orange Jesus is still whining about this, he will look like a huge, sloppy pussy. Especially since he and his party are the DO NOTHINGS on random gun violence in America.

Project 2025 is a wish list that will never be implemented. It is not going to happen. And people are far more concerned about the economy and the border. Many people are struggling to put food on the table and this is happening under Biden's watch. He will be blamed. No one is listening to the shit about democracy. Most people know most of it wouldn't get done in a few short years.

This guy says there were tons of SS on every available surface. How could they not see a guy crawling up a roof?

What I am suspicious of is the fact that they let Trump grandstand while getting him to the car. When Regan was shot they practically threw him down and covered him as they pushed him into the car. Odd that the crowd did not run for cover either as they were right behind him. Granted there was confusion but it was very obvious he got shot at as well as one person being killed in the crowd. If you remember back in 2016 someone tried to grab Trump at a rally and it scared the shit out of him. If a man shot at my head and grazed my ear I would be in a fetal position begging the SS to shield me.

Anyone else notice how Trump did a sieg heil salute as he was being led down the stairs? Fitting.

[quote] This guy says there were tons of SS on every available surface.

No, r272, he said he saw Secret Service everywhere at a nearby Trump rally four years ago. He’s stating there was a big difference this time with none visible to him on rooftops.

I did!

He hailed Hitler

[quote] What I am suspicious of is the fact that they let Trump grandstand while getting him to the car.

Did you see the three women acting like Keystone Cops? One actually ducked when the shots were fired while the men jumped up. They had no idea what to do while Trump was taken to the car and afterward. The video of them will no doubt be analyzed by Congress and hopefully changes will be made,

All of his SS men are hot. Is that because he only likes good looking people?

Yeah, r271, those don't sound *anything* like right wing talking points.

R278 = sexist

R270 I agree with what you say but this will strengthen the Republican party to rally round their martyr even those Rs who don't like him at a time when the Democratic party has become so divided

They'll keep trying to drag Biden and the Democrats into this, what with the phantom Act Blue donation and certain bits of campaign rhetoric. But ultimately this is between Trump, the Secret Service and a very troubled young man who can no longer speak for himself.

Trump is a giant pusswad. His fist pumping performance afterward was over the top, even for a movie like Over the Top. This has Roger Stone's ratfucking paws all over it.

It’s so disappointing how Democrats are saying it was staged. It sounds just like right winger conspiracy theories about crisis actors.

Lots of hypocrisy.

It was a right-wing conspiracy R285

"Convicted felon shot while awaiting criminal trial"

They are saying that the head honcho at the SS is a woman who is a DEI hire and she wants more DEI hires and more women in the SS. She will have to resign.

Congratulation on the ratings, Donald.

R246, Joe and his "Nay" vote for Clarence Thomas:

Nobody is talking about Biden's age anymore!

Nobody is talking about Trump being besties with Jeffrey Epstein and raping little girls with his bestie and threatening the girls to drop their lawsuits.

Actually Rove is the one who specialized in the false flag operations. Has anyone seen what he's been up to lately?

Rove hates Trump and has been on the outs with his administration. He's a fat fuck, but he's not Roger Stone.

[Quote] Nobody is talking about Biden's age anymore!

True. The discussion of his age was over after the debate. Cognitive impairment, Parkinson's and his stepping down is what voters, the media and the Democrats are currently talking about.

R285, after EIGHT FUCKING YEARS OF NON STOP CONSPIRACY THEORIES FROM THE MAGA COCKSUCKERS, the shoe is now on the other foot.

Fake, I call it. And they can eat shit until they die.

Sounds like he's talking about posters on DL

AP needs the local officer's name who climbed the roof before the shooting

Around 6:10 p.m.

— After rally-goers notice a man climbing on the top of the roof of a nearby building, a local law enforcement officer climbs to the roof, according to two law enforcement officials.

— A man identified by the FBI as 20-year-old Thomas Matthew Crooks points his rifle at the officer, who retreats down the ladder, the officials said.

R242 Way to be useless, jackass.

For everyone who is saying that the right would be screaming "fake" if Biden had been the shooting target, you are right.

Maybe rethink doing what the right would do?

r300 Conspiracy theorizing is only acceptable when your political opposition is at the center of a major event. Do try to keep up with the reasoning skills of the average American lemming.

r242 We live in a nation full of partisan pod people. Don't even bother. This incident has both the left and the right coming up with very entertaining conspiracy theories. It's free theater. Grab some snacks and just enjoy the show.

R297, Well, ain't Jake one with the Zeitgeist.

I guess he's never heard of JFK, MLK, RFK, George Wallace, Gerald Ford, Ronald Reagan, Medgar Evers, Malcolm X, Kent State, Jackson State, Goodman, Chaney, and Schwerner, Violet Liuzzo, etc.

I guess that's all so last century.

We're not living in a violent era; we're living in a violent country. And political violence is, as the current phrase has it, a feature, not a bug.

[quote] Many people are struggling to put food on the table and this is happening under Biden's watch

GOP claptrap. That was a few years ago. Inflation is down. And frankly, the sanctions and tariffs that trump will enact will only be buy some things worse.

I’m with r296

I don't think the dead guy thought it was fake.

R306, Oh, that part wasn't fake.

Gotta have a corpse or two. For the appearance of reality.

It's odd that the secret service didn't shove his head down. I remember when Reagan got shot his hair got all mussed by the absolute manhandling the ss agents did and Trump's wasn't touched. Reagan was a long time ago but I clearly remember how bad it looked and bow there are no photos of it in the internet

Just collateral damage on the road to total victory, you loser @R306.

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And Vivian Vance....

I agree, R310. What children we have to deal with.

Comparison of Trump campaign event in 2016 and this year’s event. /smh

Trump has been inciting violence now for a while. Go back to June of 2020. Remember how he threatened violence if he lost the election? He claimed it was rigged even then. Laying the groundwork. Then when the magnetic metal detectors were set up for his "rally speech" on January 6th he was pissed off because he wanted bigger crowds and he claimed the metal detectors were stopping people from getting into the area by the stage. When he was told, "these people have guns or weapons..." he replied, "These are my people they wouldn't hurt me..." He was been consistently laying the ground work for violence for years. "Stand back and stand by." So he probably thought the shit was on. He was actually excited, that's why the fist pump and the "fight! Fight!" and in a sick, twisted way, right now he is loving being the focus of attention.

He will wear this attempt as a badge of honor and he will not tone down his rhetoric. He will say "they" are trying to silence him. Every single criticism of Trump will be viewed as a violent threat., an attack. They want to cripple the Democrats by relying on Joe's decency. Joe telling people to unite and tone down the rhetoric. Yeah, like he thinks the Republicans will do that. The Republicans are going to bully the Dems, especially Biden, by insisting the Dems started it. Projection. Nothing has changed. Trump is going to find this very useful. And because he is a very sick man, he will enjoy it.

But, R313, it has been the left/progressives who have been calling for assasination, doing riots, calling for the destruction of the country and democracy. Stop. You have all been exposed.

R314 is joking obviously.

Next time use the /sarc tag.

Biden and the left need to just campaign to win. There are so many ways to push back against this MAGA nonsense, they need to call them out.

Keep messaging. The best message will win.

R326, Biden can't even talk. I guess you didn't notice.

I was hoping to get his Gucci shoes.....

How soon will it take for someone to say "Biden would have died from a ear wound, Trump stood tall and pumped his fist! HE IS THE FIT LEADER WE ALL NEED!"

"[R326], Biden can't even talk. I guess you didn't notice."

And you can't even type, @R317. I guess you didn't notice.

Are you speaking to the future?

Here’s a crazy bit of true history: exactly 80 years ago this week, there was an assassination attempt against Adolf Hitler. His only injury was to his ear. Also, the attempted assassin was also a Nazi.

So if Donald is following the Adolph Hitler timeline, can we fast-forward to him and Melania taking the Blue Cocktail in Trump Tower?

A curated beverage chosen by Jim Jones.

The end of the cult.

Butler Co. PA voted overwhelmingly for Trump in 2020. Why was was he even there?

"I was hoping to get his Gucci shoes....."

Junior?

You know his entire family was elated when they first heard the news, thinking they were thisclose to finally getting rid of Stinky. They all hate him, fear him and want to get at that fortune. Alas, you can't kill The Boogeyman.

He loves adoring crowds, he wants to juice turnout in a stronghold.

R320 many of us saw his neurologic compromise months ago and we spoke out, we warned and all we got was name calling and being shit on. You will get what you deserve.

r325, but the initial reports, which I haven’t heard contradicted, were that the site, the size of a football field, only had 150 attendees?

I have not seen any pictures of the rally-goers, even though the media video cameras were set FAR, FAR back.

"He loves adoring crowds, he wants to juice turnout in a stronghold."

No. No. No, Mary. You don't have a rally in an empty field playing to a population of MAGAs. Rallies are expensive, complicated and time-consuming. According to your logic then the convention should be in a trailer park Idaho or Alabama.

Add to that the almost total lack of SS visible presence there and you have a conspiracy theory. A local reporter in my state said she was at the rally and wasn't even asked for her Press credentials.

I'm hard-pressed to find any panoramic or drone photos of the rally that day. It's possible they don't allow drones to fly over at that time, but the only photos are of empty seats and trash afterwards (apparently there were no trash bins).

R328: not Alabama, I meant turnout in a red zone of a swing state. The way this played out is massive conspiracy fodder. I think the "heroic" photo of him looks demented myself.

I don't think it was fake...but it is certainly strategic. It will be used to mischaracterize the opposition and stifle criticism.

R317/R326, before you criticize anybody else's "neurological compromise," your own thought processes better be excellent, so stop making stupid, lame excuses for your even stupider, even lamer post @R317, lest you continue to be deservedly shit on.

Also, why do you have such a fucking persecution complex as wide as your prolapsed asshole?

I prefet the term “prolapsed anus,” R332, but whatever floats your boat.

[quote] Wasn't he wearing a vest? Someone claimed he also got shot in the chest but had a bulletproof vest on. Haven't heard anything official about that though.

R234 I doubt it because even with a vest, gering hit hurts as fuck. You see the bullet flying in one picture.

I find that bullet picture suspect. From what location in the grassy field was it photographed?

R218 hasn't seen the T-shirts and hats.

So on another thread posters told me to "stop"; and that the SS called "All clear!" so Trump could do his pose.

1.) The "Stop" poster isn't my boss.

2.) There was no way at that moment that anyone, including the Security Detail, absolutely knew that there was only one gunman. The implications if they DID know....

3.) Even if the coast was clear (and why was Mr. Crooks not apprehended when he was initially spotted??), the SS Security Detail should never have been anywhere by then other than inside the armored car.

4.) Their job wasn't to listen for any "All clear"; their job was to surround and basically carry Trump to the armored car and then the ER. How could the SS know the extent of his injury? How could they know if he was in shock or not?

It simply looks like protocol wasn't followed at all.

Ssssshhhh!

Can't we all just wait until George Clooney tells us what to do next.

Do we know if those people on stage were “pretend” Secret Service actors?

Yes, they were. ^^^^

R339, I think that the Secret Service agents who work with Trump are the ones who want to be with him; they have been totally won over by him and completely subservient. In other words, if they weren't incompetent before, they are now.

[quote] Do we know if those people on stage were “pretend” Secret Service actors?

The female agents seemed to be. Please see the video to see what I’m talking about. Look at the overweight one after Trump is in the vehicle and see her fumbling trying to get her gun in the holster.

The actual bullet that nicked his ear was caught in a photo as it whizzed past.

[quote]The actual bullet that nicked his ear was caught in a photo as it whizzed past.

So it wasn't a piece of glass, r343?

No, R344, apparently not.

The 'glass' narrative seems to trace back to just two reporters cited by an Indian news organization, and seems attractive to people who wish to diminish what really happened to Trump, as if being struck by a glass fragment was somehow less dangerous? heroic? worthy? than being nicked by a bullet. (It's none of those things; it simply 𝑖𝑠 what it 𝑖𝑠.)

Like or dislike of Trump should not cause people to try to bend the narrative of what happened.

Anyone remember the old Robert Palmer video with the models fake playing instruments?

This is what rump’s secret service remind me of. Surprise the women SS weren’t model- looking with big boobs.

Totally

Because of course:

r343, so the shooter was on his extreme left to leave a bullet trail like that? I thought the shooter was at 11 o clock on the roof of the building and not a 9 o clock with the bullet stream? It is highly unlikely that that was a picture of a bullet going 3,200 feet per second for 150 Yards. Such bullshit.

R349, the shutter speed used for the photo was 1/4000 of a second.

R350, why would such a shutter speed be used for taking a photo like that?

And at that rate it would have been a dot, not a blur.

[quote] why would such a shutter speed be used for taking a photo like that?

Write to Doug Mills and ask him. Let us know what he says.

Why no official hospital report of Trump’s injury?

This all smells to high heaven.

"Trump was hit by glass fragments"

Maybe the Republican incel wasn't aiming at Trump?

Did Trump even have a band-aid when he went golfing on Sunday?

That scope of Crooks must have been way off, to hit audience members---unless he meant to hit only audience members.

If a bullet shattered the teleprompter, where did it stop? Nobody behind Trump was hit by bullet or glass.

R355, I'm writing the same thing simultaneously. Posting anyway!

I just read that his father bought that assault rifle in 2013. Now. Let's see. Who was POTUS in 2013...

Those T-shirts and hats with "the" photo and captions like "Fight! Fight! Fight!" and "Missed Me" should instead say "Not Without My Shoes!"

R300, For certain they'd at least be making vile "jokes."

“Wait! Wait! Lemme get my shoes!”

YOU MOTHER FUCKING CUNT, I HOPE YOU GET CANCER, AND IF YOU HAVE IT NOW, I HOPE YOU HAVE A SLOW AND PAINFUL DEATH. YOU ARE A PIECE OF SHIT.

Here is when an agent tossed Trump's shoes.

"Why no official hospital report of Trump’s injury?"

Get a fucking life.

If we have to tone down our rhetoric, and cease calling Trump a fascist threat to our democracy, then maybe we can refocus it on the facts:

"Convicted Felon Donald Trump"

"Liable Rapist Donald Trump"

"National Security Risk Donald Trump"

"Six-Time Bankrupt Donald Trump"

"Draft-Dodger Donald Trump"

"Thrice-Married Donald Trump"

"Church-Avoiding Donald Trump"

"Locker Room Talk Donald Trump"

The wife of the guy who was killed at the rally refused President Biden's call.

Magats are all assholes and I can't muster an ounce of sympathy for their misfortunes.

The guy who was killed was a gun nut. Live by the sword...

"Thrice-Married Donald Trump"

Clutch those pearls, gurl!

Wtf did she throw his shoes off the stage?

Everyone shrinks with age, and Trump still wants to be 6'2"

Putin just wants to reach 5'8"

r364 No one is obligated to accept a call from anyone while grieving. I ignored calls from family and friends when my dad died because I didn't want to be bothered with the bombardment of "so sorry for your loss" sentiments. I wanted to be left alone.

If you hate these people (Trump supporters) and want them all dead, just say that.

r300 and r358 Yes, you are both correct. The right would be saying heartless shit if this had been Biden. Because America is a country full of objectively horrible people with an inflated sense of self and morality. Most Americans are very arrogant when it comes to whatever they believe in.

This is why [other countries] hate us.

fuck off r368 and I'll say whatever I want to say, don't need your invitation to do so

also his stocky wife wasn't too busy grieving to give an interview about why she declined the call with a bunch of magat talking points

again, do fuck off

end of

R370 can you please post a link to that interview?

wtf is going on?

I'm starting to think Trump just reached up and broke open one of those movie fake blood capsules on his ear.

President Biden must be re-elected. The Beast said he toned down the original speech he was going to give at the convention. That won't last, people shouldn't be fooled. I'll never forget blood on his face with his tiny fist raised shouting FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! Send him off the to the looney bin where he belongs.

Suspicious no news about the treatment of his ear has come out

WPXI in Pittsburgh is saying there were Trump sign outside his house

[quote]WPXI in Pittsburgh is saying there were Trump sign outside his house

"Neighbors of the man who allegedly shot Donald Trump said that they spotted campaign signs for the former president outside his home in recent years."

[quote]The wife of the guy who was killed at the rally refused President Biden's call.

Astonishingly, she told the New York Post she hasn't yet been contacted by Trump.

And by "astonishingly," I mean right in character for the orange narcissist.

Watch this woman calmly film the developing assassination.

R364 "The wife of the guy who was killed at the rally refused President Biden's call. "

Now that is a radicalized family. I have zero sympathy for him and his family because they would have zero sympathy for anybody who was not with their politics.

r370 You seem like a really good person. I'm definitely going to take your moral grandstanding seriously moving forward. I have seen the error of my ways. Thank you for being such a light in these dark and perilous times.

[Quote] also his stocky wife wasn't too busy grieving to give an interview about why she declined the call with a bunch of magat talking points

[Quote] again, do fuck off

R370 she has a name and has suffered a great loss. Based on the statement she gave to the press, she's a class act which is more than I can say for you.

“I support Trump. That’s who I’m voting for, but I don’t have ill will towards Biden,” she added. “He didn’t do anything bad to my husband. A 20-year-old despicable kid did.-Helen Comperatore

[quote]WPXI in Pittsburgh is saying there were Trump sign outside his house

So he was rebelling against his parents and their political views?

"Now that is a radicalized family. I have zero sympathy for him and his family because they would have zero sympathy for anybody who was not with their politics."

Do you not see the irony of your comment, R380?

I’ll bet Trump just popped a blood capsule on the side of his face.

If your ear or face had contact with a bullet there would be a wound, abrasion, some evidence of that. They act like the bullet gave him an ear massage and were supposed to believe that. I don’t.

Trump didn’t even bother to visit the families of those who are hurt and killed

Can’t believe the wife refusing a call from Biden and astonished that she hadn’t heard from her beloved Dump. He wouldn’t piss on her if she was on fire and he does not give a shit about her husband’s death. Still not enough to see the cult for what it is though.

Horrifying monsters

[quote]Trump didn’t even bother to visit the families of those who are hurt and killed

Surprised he didn't say they knew what they signed up for, but then again he was preoccupied with the corner of his ear and his special shoes.

Ah, the stench of sweet, smug, self-righteous sanctimony in the morning, R382/R384.

No, R384 I just see psychosis, narcissism, anger, hatred, insensitivity and sweeping generalizations from someone who ironically displays the very traits they assign to those they oppose.

The giant bandage was to cover the lack of damage. A bullet that close would take your ear off and almost knock you down. You wouldn't act like a mosquito bit you.

R382, "A class act"??

The Widow Comperatore refused the call from the President of the United States. That's called "small-minded, petty, graceless, and ignorant."

Don't take her "no ill will" out of context.

The whole thing is so weird. Isn't securing the only roof nearby you're not on yourself, idk, secret service 101? People in the crowd were calling attention to Crooks for at least 5 minutes according to reports, no?

I think about how urgent and chaotic the Reagan shooting scene was. I'm thinking about what we know an AR-15 can do to a school classroom.

On NPR yesterday it was said it was essentially savvy of him and proof of his political instincts that he knew to pose for a photo. What if the skill is theater. He understands the power of imagery. And he didn't just pose for a photo. He reassures the public nearly immediately he's fine (doesn't want to appear wounded or weak?), goes golfing the next morning, makes no to move to console or visit the family of Corey Comperatore. Guilt? Starts saying things about unity so conveniently leading straight into the RNC convention.

I don't want to be this guy but it really has all the makings of stagecraft.

Whoops, they called his widow! I was typing..

An AR-15 bullet would have taken his ear- nothing more than cartilage and blood- off and left a burn mark across his scalp. And seriously wounded whomever was behind him. Trump is wearing a bandaid a couple days later.

Trump would never allow a disfiguring wound- or an ugly, gauze-y affair- especially on his big night.

Another thing. There's one woman in the crowd screaming very loudly. I noticed it the very first time I saw the footage. It's outsized to how anyone else seems to be reacting. Right there on stage with Trump himself. It's almost like a plant in a theater who leads a collective audience reaction. I know I'm starting to sound nuts.

I found the woman screaming odd. I guess people respond to violence in unexpected ways. There's one voice in the crowd. It very much gave me the feel of someone going down in front of her, right next to her, something happening in the crowd where she is. I wanted the camera to show where that was happening because there was so little reaction on stage.

He recovered so quickly and immediately started talking about unity because he didn't want to appear weak or because he's a political genius or because he knew in his heart the whole thing was a dirty trick and wants to focus on the result, a convention boost.

Hmm.. a means to an end. Wants attention, doesn't want us to look too hard at the actual event.

This whole episode is faker than Kimberly Guilfoyle's tits that look she bought them at Walmart.

Ok, well how'd they put the kid up to it? He didn't have much social media presence. Oh wait, he was in a BlackRock ad. Curious.

The silicone tits and not the saline tits.

They promised him money or threatened his life. They told him he'd be stopped or that it's fun special op with blanks. hmm. ok I got, they told he'd be the hero and was going to help stop an attack from in the crowd or something.

From what I understand security was covering three locations. The closer proximity, the middle perimeter and the outer perimeter. The responsibility of the sharpshooters who took out the shooter were to scope the outer perimeter that went beyond where the shooter was. It was local law enforcement that was supposed to monitor and protect the middle perimeter, but they did their job poorly.

[quote]Isn't securing the only roof nearby you're not on yourself, idk, secret service 101?

The Secret Service is claiming that the roof was "outside their perimeter" and that local police were [italic]actually stationed inside the building the gunman shot from[/italic].

I don't adhere to any other conspiracy theories, but the more I hear about this, the more suspicious it seems.

Isn't the "perimiter" shooting range?

Would BlackRock murder a rando 20 year old Pennsylvania kid they already know who perfectly matches the school shooter profile for just to give failing Dump the ultimate convention boost?

Channel 4 News in the UK is running a story about the shooter’s father who was a Trump supporter who was held in a database and was profiled by Trump’s election campaign. Follow the money…

R408, Yes, it would and did offer the convention's "Big Mo," but you're missing the larger picture (the "forest," if you will):

Project 2025.

I still believe the ear was cut by glass or whatever. But not an injury from a bullet. There was definitely this Crooks kid sniper. And he did shoot. But he didn't shoot at Trump. He just shot into the crowd.. The kid allegedly had two explosive devices in his car and one more at his house. Improvised. I think he wanted to do a Las Vegas style event. Shoot and blow people up, etc. like that looney did in Vegas. Now, I want to hear about the local cop who went up on the roof to check him out after the crowd brought it to his attention, but the kid turned and pointed the rifle at him, so he scrambled away and started shooting. Four rounds. A SS Sniper on another roof took him out. theoretically Donnie was in danger, but not nearly as much as they're saying.

trump is being treated by that psycho Ronny Jackson. This is the physician we are supposed to trust in this situation. I’m done with this bullshit. It was a set-up.

All of them, Bannon on down, have been talking lately that the Deep State was going to kill Trump this summer or try to and darn it along comes a lone wolf shooter whose family was profiled by the trump org and who was in a BlackRock ad who does just that.

If the press gave a shit they could find those comments by Bannon and Jones and Kirk and that creepy Mike Flynn disciple named Ivan and start questioning things but they don’t care.

The same armchair sleuths here were the ones saying;

Kate Middleton was dead

She'd had an abortion

Was replaced by a lookalike

Had been wearing a wig

Now you're all firearms experts.......

This might not be the thread for you, r413. Why don't yo go back to the threads where you can bash Joe.

The way it's been handled/explained is like gasoline on a conspiracy fire.

It's amusing how many delusional people roam this website. It's as if most of the country has fallen for one conspiracy theory or another. People didn't used to be this gullible but they read a lot and I think reading helps promote critical thinking skills. Critical thinking isn't taught in schools anymore. They don't ask kids to think. When I was in school during the crusades, teachers would ask pointed questions, and make us debate and defend our opinions. We couldn't get away with calling people names when we didn't agree with them

You type old, r416.

You were in school during the Crusades, r416. Damn, you're really old.

I am old but not 13th-century old. I hope you know I was making a joke.

Old enough to know better but I've been floating some conspiracies on here but it's just in fun. I'm not going to sign my name to any of it on Twitter. Just thinking aloud. Fine, we'll stick with the conventional narrative for R416, it was a very normal (and not at all fake looking) assassination attempt that just so happened to lead straight into the RNC convention.

I've never believed in any conspiracy theory, but this one seems possible because of who it benefits. He is such an inveterate, self-aggrandizing liar (among many other extremely poor qualities) and everyone he associates with so evil and unscrupulous that it seems like just the kind of thing they would try.

He's an absolute pussy who spends his life flinching, yet all of a sudden he's a fist bumping Rambo? Okay.

r413, I admit I was one who supported the bedpan baby theory after Kate gave birth and then looked none the worse for wear. I think I did it because it seemed funny. Sadly, the people espousing insane conspiracies about the assassination attempt really do believe them.

Is "bedpan baby" commonly known as an expression? I get it, but I'm very nerdy.

Yes, R422 is far too much of a pussy to allow someone to shoot at him in a psyop. come on. It was real. He has great instincts because he is a narcissist so his image is the only important thing. Standing up and giving the power sign is something he would do.

This is interesting. This guy I just ran across says that the polls for Biden are catastrophic but the down ballots have all the generic democrats on the down ballot up as much as Biden is down. they are up by 6 and 7 points. If the Democrats can manage to get both houses or come close then Trump can't get much done because he will spend 4 years fighting the Democrats who downvote everything he tries to do.

Veteran sniper says no way this kid did it on his own.

But I say there's no way he did it at all. But one thing's for certain: he's dead.

[quote] Trump can't get much done because he will spend 4 years fighting the Democrats who downvote everything he tries to do

Oh, you sweet summer child.

[quote]This guy I just ran across

Well, r426, if this guy you just ran across says it...

The SC can only rule on constitutional issues and they can't make laws.

The assassination related merch was ready to go very quickly.

How did a kid with a rifle and no known military training outfox Secret Service and local authorities for half an hour?

This was the email that Trump sent out just before the Pennsylvania rally. Interesting image of a fist pump, huh?

[quote]How did a kid with a rifle and no known military training outfox Secret Service and local authorities for half an hour?

I saw tweets about "slanted roof" earlier today on X. Here's the story.

[quote]Embattled Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle says she has no plans to resign, even after the stunning revelation that the agency decided not to guard the roof from which Thomas Crooks opened fire on former President Donald Trump because it was too slanted.

[quote]“That building in particular has a sloped roof at its highest point. And so, you know, there’s a safety factor that would be considered there that we wouldn’t want to put somebody up on a sloped roof,” she told ABC News in a startling admission.

She was concerned that a slanted roof presented a safety factor for the agents.

R434 and yet the shooter was able to scale the building and use the roof as a sniper position.

R435, The POLICE SNIPER did WHAT?!

HE "TOOK A PHOTO."

HE "OBSERVED ACTIVITY" BY CROOKS.

HE "RADIOED" THE INFO.

Is every single LE employee in this godforsaken ignorant country a graduate of the Sir Robin the Brave Police Academy?!

Because r432, Americans are incompetent.

Sniper kid didn't have a bump stock, only got off 11 rounds?

Was he expecting to use an AR-15 as a MANUAL sniper rifle?

AR-15s are splay and kill rifles.

This doesn't make profile sense to me.

The dead firefighter is all but forgotten already

So sad R439

[quote]The dead firefighter is all but forgotten already

That's just so wrong.

Trump himself forgot about the dead firefighter.....

His widow could have extended his fame had she taken the President's call.

Nice try R442

Any fireman being at a Trump rally says a lot about what kind of ‘’man’’ this fireman was. We will probably learn he was a former fireman kicked out because of bad behavior-bad Trump behavior.

Broken glass on the floor cut his ear

Should he wear a Purple Heart 💜 bandaid?

[Quote] Any fireman being at a Trump rally says a lot about what kind of ‘’man’’ this fireman was.

His actions say a lot as well. He died shielding his family from danger

Even after all that practice the kid still couldn't shoot straight... Though I still think it was debris what hit Turd.

R445 yep they found his tweets. Stuff like “they’ll get over it. The Japanese did” under a picture of Gaza rubble.

R444 Trump called after the story hit the news that the wife said she refused the call from Biden, but has yet to hear from Trump.

R451 Helen Comperratore accepted the call from Trump. How you feel about it is irrelevant. R451

“He was very kind and said he would continue to call me in the days and weeks ahead,” Helen Comperatore wrote, adding that she had told the former president that her husband, Corey Comperatore, “left this world a hero, and God welcomed him in.”

R444, he only called after the media pointed after that Biden called her and Trump didn't. Nice try.

R453 Obviously Helen Comperatore is not concerned about it. So why should you be? Irrelevant post. She took the call from Trump not Biden. Her choice.

R454 The point is Biden knew as president to do the right thing and call the widow of a shooting victim and extend his condolences. Trump only did so only because he was looking bad in the media.

Why are you so concerned about the timing of a call when the person who received it isn't? R455

and speaking of timing. You should be concerned about the fact that her husband is dead thanks to the ineptitude of the Secret Service and local police. People in the crowd saw the shooter before local police and the secret service and had to point out his presence to the people who were assigned to protect the former President and attendees.

At least the dead firefighter died before he could run over innocent cyclists: