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Mighty Joe Biden: You Want My Crown? Come Take it From Me

[QUOTE]President Biden on Monday offered a feisty challenge to Democratic politicians and donors who want him to drop out of the race. “If these guys don't think I should run, run against me. Announce for president. Challenge me at the convention.”

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by Anonymousreply 436July 12, 2024 4:49 PM

I am a democrat who, after the debate, thinks Joe should step down. Nothing that he's done since the debate helps me get back on board. This "it's the party elites and this needs to stop right now!" recalcitrance further puts me off.

Of course I'll vote for him if he stays at the top of the ticket. Trumps is a real threat to the republic. But I worry about losing the House and Senate is Biden continues to diminish support.

by Anonymousreply 1July 8, 2024 7:20 PM

{quote]I am a democrat

Your only post, r1?

by Anonymousreply 2July 8, 2024 7:22 PM

DNC rigged the process so RFK had to run as n Independent.

Nothing new in that.

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by Anonymousreply 3July 8, 2024 7:22 PM

Crazy old man sending a letter to the editor. By making the race about his health, we’re fucked because Trump will clobber him in a landslide.

by Anonymousreply 4July 8, 2024 7:23 PM

Oh well, r4, you'll get over it.

by Anonymousreply 5July 8, 2024 7:26 PM

@r2, Thanks, I've been blocking these assholes all week and now I've got another. r4 is another troll asshole -Bye!

by Anonymousreply 6July 8, 2024 7:28 PM

[QUOTE] DNC rigged the process so RFK had to run as n Independent.

Nobody was voting to hear RFK’s voice for four years with that brillo pad stuffed in his throat.

by Anonymousreply 7July 8, 2024 7:37 PM

Oh, look, another Biden doomscrolling thread 🙄.

by Anonymousreply 8July 8, 2024 7:43 PM

Who' asking Trump to step down?

"In 2016 a woman who went by the pseudonyms Katie Johnson and Jane Doe in legal filings accused Trump of raping her in 1994, when she was 13, during an orgy held at Epstein’s home in Manhattan. She accused Epstein of raping her as well."

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by Anonymousreply 9July 8, 2024 7:48 PM

[QUOTE] Who's asking Trump to step down?

Certainly not the New York Times.

by Anonymousreply 10July 8, 2024 8:06 PM

Let's just move on. The more 'ick' we put in the air the more it benefits the Rethugs.

He's President every day. The thing about Biden is they've searched and searched and not found any dirt, except Hunter's. And he's run a tight ship: when have you heard about leaks? Firings? The Rethugs hate that he's dignified.

If you take on a new candidate they could have a closet full of skeletons. Isn't that why they added Kimberley Gargoyle to the team?

by Anonymousreply 11July 8, 2024 8:11 PM

So you're blocking anyone who dares to speak the truth that Joe is old and senile, and he is taking down the entire Democratic party because of his ego, not because he can win? How Trumpian and brave.

by Anonymousreply 12July 8, 2024 8:17 PM

The corporate owners and other greed-heads want a Republican. That is not going to change, regardless of candidate and condition.

The literal-Bibleists want a Republican. Etc.

The uneducated racists and violence-prone want a Republican. Etc.

Their minds can never be changed, for we are talking about their character and/or their intelligence. Political facts have no influence other than to let them know which "team" either to bribe or to root for, buy the merchandise of, and argue about.

I am the same way, but as a Democrat, so I have in my favor education, facts, knowledge, and a social conscience.

This, I will vote for a dead dog before I vote for any Republican.

Trump himself has warned us with the story of the snake.

by Anonymousreply 13July 8, 2024 8:18 PM

Joe has lost half of The View

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by Anonymousreply 14July 8, 2024 8:23 PM

This whole week I have had the same feelings I did when Ruth Bader Ginsberg died. We can have an 8-1 or even 7-2 Supreme Court in favor of conservatives.

The next few months will be interesting, I will still support Biden if he remains the nominee but you can't deny that the debate performance was not a good look, the leaks on his medical condition and the Parkinsons doctor visits...oh boy..

by Anonymousreply 15July 8, 2024 8:27 PM

"I Don’t Think He Can Win’: Sara..."

He can if you vote for him.

by Anonymousreply 16July 8, 2024 8:28 PM

[QUOTE] So you're blocking anyone who dares to speak the truth that Joe is old and senile

Anyone who says Joe is “old and senile” is LYING. That is the OPPOSITE of the TRUTH. He may be old but he’s far from senile.

by Anonymousreply 17July 8, 2024 8:36 PM

Trump MISSING, Melania MISSING, Biden has 18 public events

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by Anonymousreply 18July 8, 2024 8:38 PM

The geniuses on "The View" have opined!

I'm persuaded now!

I should ask about the 5th at Aqueduct!

by Anonymousreply 19July 8, 2024 8:38 PM

"Joe has lost half of The View "

But is it lost lost

by Anonymousreply 20July 8, 2024 8:52 PM

[quote] Trump MISSING, Biden has 18 public events

Trump letting the poor old guy run himself to exhaustion speeding up Joe's deterioration. This was the guy who still hadn't recovered in a week after his flight from Europe.

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by Anonymousreply 21July 8, 2024 8:56 PM

Trump 24. Calling it now. Sad.

by Anonymousreply 22July 8, 2024 8:56 PM

[quote]I am the same way, but as a Democrat, so I have in my favor education, facts, knowledge, and a social conscience. This, I will vote for a dead dog before I vote for any Republican.

You contradict yourself. If you have all of that, you should be asking why it has to get to this point in the first place, where that's the only option that the democratic party can produce.

And why is it up to the people to save democracy yet again? The people did their job electing Biden the first time. I hear people saying that Biden saved us from Trump. How? He's still running for office! How did he save us? What was Merrick Garland doing all this time?

Biden should have been a one term, transition president, like he initially promised at the outset. These last few years should have been highlighting the younger group of politicians, and Biden should have been mentoring Kamala Harris to take over. And if that didn't have happen, then we should have had an open primary this year.

Instead, it's a shitshow, and it's becoming less and less about saving democracy, and more and more about making sure Joe Biden gets elected than anything else. You now have his supporters talking about withholding support and possibly votes for the democrats who have expressed concern about him running. So we can have no majorities in the House or Senate as long as Biden becomes President. What happened to getting all three branches back.?

I will vote for him if he's the candidate come November, but this is all on him and his team at this point. Don't blame third parties or anybody else for this mess. Obama called it years back about him.

by Anonymousreply 23July 8, 2024 8:58 PM

^ You are an asshole and a cunty asshole on top of just a run-of-the-mill asshole

by Anonymousreply 24July 8, 2024 9:00 PM

The education is clearly paying off R24.

by Anonymousreply 25July 8, 2024 9:03 PM

'Anyone who says Joe is “old and senile” is LYING. That is the OPPOSITE of the TRUTH. He may be old but he’s far from senile.'

Oh brother. Guy it does not get better. Just look at Joe from four years ago. There has been an enormous deterioration in those 4 years. And it speeds up. I don't even want to think of him in one year.

Still voting for him but R23 got it right. Of course he's digging in his heels. He's got beginning dementia and try dealing with a dementia patient. They will fight you tooth and nail.

R24 you are a very stupid disgusting human being.

by Anonymousreply 26July 8, 2024 9:03 PM

Selfish, short-sighted, doddering prick. As with RBG, he's going to screw us all over with his egotistical, recalcitrant game-playing.

by Anonymousreply 27July 8, 2024 9:04 PM

This bitch can talk this shit now. But couldn’t talk that shit to his actual opponent during the debate. He probably didn’t even make this statement. It’s his handlers telling him what to say. Their thinking about their clout and didn’t foresee him not winning again and thought they could hide his mental decline. Sad.

by Anonymousreply 28July 8, 2024 9:04 PM

Joe hasn't been "mighty" in a long time. Sadly, those days are behind him. It's embarrassing that he (and the deluded faithful) refuse to accept these difficult, bitter realities.

by Anonymousreply 29July 8, 2024 9:06 PM

R23, I don't mean to be contradictory.

I don't recall Joe stating he was planning on only one term.

How did we Democrats come to this pass? Health can deteriorate faster than we expect.

As for mentoring Kamala: That was never going to happen. Joe ignores her viability even now. She was a pick for demographics, as many a disliked VP has been ("Hillbilly" LBJ; "Straight-arrow faithful" Gore; "Maybe he needed to be hanged" Christian Pence; e.g.) and is serving that purpose.

by Anonymousreply 30July 8, 2024 9:07 PM

Biden did say he would be a one term president. I remember that clearly too. And he said that over criticism about his age 4 years ago. The average age presidents die is 85. All these politicians are fraudulent except Obama.

by Anonymousreply 31July 8, 2024 9:10 PM

Joe has thrown down the proverbial gauntlet. He who picks it up should know that if you strike at the King, you'd best not miss.

He has now come to view as enemies the likes of Warner.

by Anonymousreply 32July 8, 2024 9:11 PM

This race is going to be one for the history books. I foresee a lot of change coming regardless of who wins, and that includes an amendment regarding age limits for the presidency.

by Anonymousreply 33July 8, 2024 9:17 PM

Joe is one step away from accidentally urinating in public. He looks and sounds like a rotting corpse.

by Anonymousreply 34July 8, 2024 9:18 PM

@r25, "The education is clearly paying off [R24]. "

When do you plan to start yours? The Trump School of Assholery doesn't count, asshole

Did I mention that you're an ASSHOLE?

by Anonymousreply 35July 8, 2024 9:24 PM

[quote] Joe is one step away from accidentally urinating in public.

Seriously do you think it hadn't passed that point a long time ago?

by Anonymousreply 36July 8, 2024 9:28 PM

@r29, "Joe hasn't been "mighty" in a long time. Sadly, those days are behind him."

You think this is the answer? 😂

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by Anonymousreply 37July 8, 2024 9:28 PM

Holy, this story isn't great. I'm not sure if it's been posted here or not.

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by Anonymousreply 38July 8, 2024 9:30 PM

The fucking trolls on this thread, it's like playing Whack-a-Mole

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by Anonymousreply 39July 8, 2024 9:33 PM

Holy, this story isn't great. I'm not sure if it's been posted here or not.

r38, try harder, dickhead

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by Anonymousreply 40July 8, 2024 9:36 PM

R2 Is this strategic obfuscation? Or just ignorance? I've posted hundreds of times in the Biden threads and several thousand times since joining DL decades ago. I am embarrassed I am on DL as much as I am. I need to get a life.

by Anonymousreply 41July 8, 2024 9:36 PM

Joe thinks he's still got it. Maybe he does. But he has to prove it. Press conferences. Live Town Halls. UNscripted campaign events. If he can't do those, he's toast.

by Anonymousreply 42July 8, 2024 9:42 PM

Biden shouting and mumbling on Morning Joe was embarrassingly sad.

by Anonymousreply 43July 8, 2024 9:43 PM

[QUOTE]Biden did say he would be a one term president.

When the hell did he say that, R31?

by Anonymousreply 44July 8, 2024 9:57 PM

From bridge candidate to David Koresh

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by Anonymousreply 45July 8, 2024 10:10 PM

Jesus Christ this guy is in need of a diaper change. The DNC fucked the pooch again.

by Anonymousreply 46July 8, 2024 10:15 PM

R33, An amendment? The states laugh.

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by Anonymousreply 47July 8, 2024 10:18 PM

[quote]r23 = Instead, it's a shitshow, and it's becoming less and less about saving democracy, and more and more about making sure Joe Biden gets elected than anything else.

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by Anonymousreply 48July 8, 2024 10:19 PM

R46, Allow me to introduce you to the lovely fecally incontinent Donald J. Trump.

And remind you that we have a Democrat in the White House, as we did 2009--2017.

by Anonymousreply 49July 8, 2024 10:20 PM

^ If it didn't happen yesterday the trolls aren't interested

by Anonymousreply 50July 8, 2024 10:29 PM

Yall must have the same amnesia that Biden has.

by Anonymousreply 51July 8, 2024 10:30 PM

Folks, Captain 🧑‍✈️ Biden here, ready to depart on the SS Titanic 2024! No need to worry about icebergs or getting enough votes! Cut the malarkey and let’s sail away!

by Anonymousreply 52July 8, 2024 10:34 PM

^ No we'll are fine, what part of Trump's record do you need to be reminded of, hillbilly?

by Anonymousreply 53July 8, 2024 10:35 PM

@r46, "Jesus Christ this guy is in need of a diaper change"

I'm sure...

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by Anonymousreply 54July 8, 2024 10:38 PM

What are we going to do about Trump's dementia?

“Our army manned the air, it rammed the ramparts, it took over the airports, it did everything it had to do, and at Fort McHenry, under the rockets’ red glare, it had nothing but victory,”

by Anonymousreply 55July 8, 2024 10:47 PM

[quote] it took over the airports, it did everything it had to do

Be honest. Did you see a single English plane land that night ?

by Anonymousreply 56July 8, 2024 11:22 PM

Hakeem standing with Joe!

[QUOTE] Representative Hakeem Jeffries, Democrat of New York and the House minority leader, said his position “has not changed” on President Biden and his candidacy. “I made clear publicly, the day after the debate, that I support president Joe Biden and the Democratic ticket,” he said.

by Anonymousreply 57July 8, 2024 11:47 PM

Alright man! 👨 Hakeem is sailing with me on the SS Titanic 2024! Now I can continue my napping and early bedtime! I’ll race you to the ice cream bar! Captain 🧑‍✈️ Joe 🚢

by Anonymousreply 58July 9, 2024 12:13 AM

In my country, we say it's better to give with warm hands (implied: ... than your possessions having to be pried out of your cold, dead hands). Oh well, ...

by Anonymousreply 59July 9, 2024 12:28 AM

^ That's sweet... Do you have possessions in your country?

by Anonymousreply 60July 9, 2024 12:31 AM

The Joe is sharp as a tack trolls are beyond the pale.

by Anonymousreply 61July 9, 2024 12:33 AM

[quote]The Joe is sharp as a tack trolls are beyond the pale.

I have no doubt that he's sharper than *you*, r61, and he's a helluva lot sharper than Trump.

by Anonymousreply 62July 9, 2024 12:35 AM

[quote]Nobody was voting to hear RFK’s voice for four years with that brillo pad stuffed in his throat.

r7 It's a real shame what happened to his voice. I think one of his sisters has the same disorder, also.

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by Anonymousreply 63July 9, 2024 12:35 AM

Stephen King and Michael Moore calling for him to step down along with Rob Reiner

by Anonymousreply 64July 9, 2024 12:36 AM

^ RFK Jr. eats the puppies Kristi Noem kills

by Anonymousreply 65July 9, 2024 12:37 AM

How exactly is Joe planning to make up for the enormous enthusiasm gap he now faces? He’s the worst person to go after Trump because he doesn’t inspire any confidence. No one takes an old man whisper shouting in the front yard seriously.

by Anonymousreply 66July 9, 2024 12:39 AM

"whisper shouting" made me laugh, maybe he could pair up with Janet Jackson while she does her whisper coo singing.

by Anonymousreply 67July 9, 2024 12:41 AM

R62 Clearly Trump is a helluva lot sharper than you.

by Anonymousreply 68July 9, 2024 12:44 AM

I can’t believe out of the entire American population we’re being forced to choose between two geriatric morons.

by Anonymousreply 69July 9, 2024 12:47 AM

R66, that’s not the point for these Biden or Bust folks. They see Trump as invincible except for Uncle Joe’s magic. Polls don’t matter, evidence of his deterioration doesn’t matter, the inability to speak in public without a script doesn’t matter.

This is an October surprise in June, and they are insisting that nothing can be done. We just have to hope and lose gracefully with Joe. They don’t have a plan, they can’t say how he can possibly win, but they will rip apart anyone trying to change course.

by Anonymousreply 70July 9, 2024 12:50 AM

OP's headline reminded me of this video.

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by Anonymousreply 71July 9, 2024 12:54 AM

@r70 We need to hope and pray that someone rips your face off from the inside 🙂

by Anonymousreply 72July 9, 2024 1:12 AM

[quote]I can’t believe out of the entire American population we’re being forced to choose between two geriatric morons.

That's what you get, r69, when you don't get involved.

by Anonymousreply 73July 9, 2024 1:25 AM

^ Or, when you live in a different country and aren't allowed to vote in American elections

Which is probably closer to the truth

by Anonymousreply 74July 9, 2024 1:29 AM

R67 DEAD 😂

by Anonymousreply 75July 9, 2024 1:42 AM

Calm down, r55. Have a cup of covfefe. 😉

by Anonymousreply 76July 9, 2024 1:42 AM

R70, The difference is that any October Surprise is in....October, the perpetrators' hope's being that Americans won't have time to forget it by Election Day.

July is fuhgeddaboutit. Furthermore, there's plenty of time for Trump to say or do something outrageous that the media cannot ignore.

Too bad this week's Feisty Joe didn't show up at the debate. Instead of insulting Trump he would have been better served by challenging the worst of Trump's lies.

"I can't believe what you just said, man! Are you accusing Democrats and doctors of MURDERING NEWBORNS? That's a disgusting LIE, PAL! you keep lying to the American people!"

by Anonymousreply 77July 9, 2024 1:56 AM

Trump said outrageous things in 2016 and still got elected. Don't count on Magas turning on Trump. They like that he lies and is antagonistic. Biden will lose to him

by Anonymousreply 78July 9, 2024 2:09 AM

According to four people who regularly talk to Biden, all of whom asked for anonymity to discuss internal campaign matters, it is virtually inconceivable that he will run for reelection in 2024, when he would be the first octogenarian president. “If Biden is elected,” a prominent adviser to the campaign said, “he’s going to be 82 years old in four years and he won’t be running for reelection.”

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by Anonymousreply 79July 9, 2024 2:20 AM

I love a smart ass and Joe is that.

by Anonymousreply 80July 9, 2024 2:23 AM

I'm sorry R79, did you think you had a point?

by Anonymousreply 81July 9, 2024 2:26 AM

Pro tip: the point is on the top of your head.

by Anonymousreply 82July 9, 2024 2:40 AM

R78, He lied and didn't get elected in 2020, and he's up against that opponent, not 2016's.

I agree that MAGAts love Trump's pugnacious attitude and brazen lies. They think it shows that Trump is "strong." He isn't at all---he clearly is an unfit coward---but MAGAts WANT a bully as President. They WANT to push others around and take their lunch money. That is why Trump the Sexual Assaulter is an object of admiration, as seen on some MAGAt women's T-shirts.

by Anonymousreply 83July 9, 2024 2:48 AM

Link:

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by Anonymousreply 84July 9, 2024 2:49 AM

All the trolls on here attacking Biden are total hypocrites. Dump was showing signs of dementia from day one of his presidency. Along with severe mental illness. He is only a few years younger than Biden and is morbidly obese, wears diapers and spews incoherent word salad/lies every time he opens his pie hole. This election isn't about Biden or his fitness to serve at this point. Its about stopping Dump and Project 2025. Biden has a competent cabinet and VP running things. He doesn't have an agenda to become a fascist king of America. Yeah he should have stepped aside and let someone else run months ago. But this election is about deciding if you want to continue being a Democratic Republic or if you want to become Nazi Germany.

by Anonymousreply 85July 9, 2024 2:56 AM

R85 Many of those expressing concern about Biden have concern EXACTLY because it's so important to beat Trump. Is Trump pathological, old and in cognitive decline? Yes, of course. That doesn't change the conversation about whether Biden is equipped to beat the motherfucker.

by Anonymousreply 86July 9, 2024 3:09 AM

Trump is a lot of things. Unfit, ignorant, can’t right policy, draconian right wing but yall know dam well it’s a false narrative to suggest he seems like he has dementia. Because he doesn’t all. That cunt remembers every lil thing. That’s why he is able to be so simple and bring up the most innocuous things to make a point only a low iq American would agree with. It’s already too late anyways. Biden is doubling down because his team didn’t plan on not having their white house positions for the next 4 years. That’s what this shit is all about. Mark my words. I said the same thing and was cussed out here in 2016. Trump will be our next president.

by Anonymousreply 87July 9, 2024 3:24 AM

Nowhere in your article, R79, is a quote from Joe Biden saying he won’t run again.

by Anonymousreply 88July 9, 2024 5:03 AM

Demential means you can't remember what you're talking about, not that you can't remember an insult from fifty years ago R87.

Biden is dumb and lazy and doesn't understand how violent and revolutonary his opponents are. If he were just a little smarter he would use the power the SCOTUS just handed him and clean house, starting with them.

by Anonymousreply 89July 9, 2024 5:27 AM

Biden is also a narcissist, which makes sens because almost everybody who runs for president is, but to imagine he could take pride in his debate performance suggests he has no judgement whatsoever and Putin for one is sure to take advantage of that.

by Anonymousreply 90July 9, 2024 5:28 AM

R89 Bruh Trump doesn’t have dementia. We have eyes and common sense. And they been hiding this fucker for 2 summers. It’s just sickening what happening.

by Anonymousreply 91July 9, 2024 5:28 AM

Trump definitely has dementia, but it is true he is so ignorant and dishonest that is hard to pick it out of all the lies.

by Anonymousreply 92July 9, 2024 5:29 AM

How come nobody ever talked about Trump having dementia before the debate when it is all many talked about regarding Biden before the debate. This is why people just give up on liberalism even though the repubs are crooks. Crooks can be real. Be real. Be real. People hate people who are full of shit.

by Anonymousreply 93July 9, 2024 5:31 AM

I still can't fathom how Biden believes that he is the only person that can beat Donald Trump. Utter and complete delusion. Biden is behind in the polls and HAS NO PLAN to catch up. Yelling is not going to help him with voters. The only interest he will generate is morbid curiosity as people watch to see him mess up and confirm, again, yep, he's still 81 and making mistakes. Not enough people will want to give him the reins again, knowing that he will decline for four more years. Why are the Democrats afraid to tell him the truth? It doesn't speak well for the party apparatus that they can't have a real discussion with him. He sends a letter today saying any discussion of the debate is now over? WTF? What a jerk.

by Anonymousreply 94July 9, 2024 6:00 AM

"Joe Biden is doing terrific!! Only 118 days left until he loses!! Hang in there cause you are royally screwing it all up!! Staying off the campaign trail was another great move...Jill campaigned in Florida to tell everyone to vote Joe, who apparently stayed home instead of going with Jill??!! What an awesome campaign you are running!!"-------[bold]--Republican Party[/bold]

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by Anonymousreply 95July 9, 2024 6:09 AM

Biden---------->>"I'm not going anywhere"

Trump---------->>"Until January. You can't even pull 5 points of a convicted felon!!"

by Anonymousreply 96July 9, 2024 6:11 AM

These are the same losers who told us he couldn’t win the 2020 nomination. Then when he won, they said Joe was doomed in the general election.

by Anonymousreply 97July 9, 2024 7:22 AM

Trump clearly has a form of dementia.

His inability to finish thoughts; tendency to garble or make up words; need to relate nonsense "anecdotes" of lies, fantasies, and bizarre elements (Revolutionary War airports; sinking battery boats; waterless showers; and hundreds more); and most disturbing, his constant use of aggressive and even violent language, imagery, and threats (vicious; bloodbath; rapists; murderers; nasty; mean; retribution; etc.)....

show a mind with increasing difficulty with rational thought and language, reliant more and more on grandiosity, paranoia, wrath, and authoritarianism.

This is not a person fit for the Presidency.

by Anonymousreply 98July 9, 2024 7:22 AM

[quote] Biden is behind in the polls and HAS NO PLAN to catch up.

Here is Biden's plan: "Folks, I know that 72% of you think I'm mentally unfit to continue as president. I know you were hoping for new, fresh candidates instead of a rematch between Trump and me. I know that less than 40% of you approve of my job performance. I know that many of you think I'm old and feeble. But I don't care. You're all wrong. ... And please vote for me!"

by Anonymousreply 99July 9, 2024 7:51 AM

Poor R99. Finally sinking in that Gav won’t be handed the nomination for looking pretty? Poor guy will have to earn it the old fashioned way in 2028.

by Anonymousreply 100July 9, 2024 12:14 PM

[quote]How come nobody ever talked about Trump having dementia before the debate

Tell us you haven't been reading DL for the past eight years without telling us.

by Anonymousreply 101July 9, 2024 12:19 PM

David Pakman talked about three times a week for a year R93

by Anonymousreply 102July 9, 2024 1:40 PM

R87 R93 I wonder if this is a real comment, or just stirring up shit. Of course there have comments, many and often, about Trump's confusion and mental decline. "I'm running against Obama", forgetting his wife's name, incoherent stories about sharks and batteries, confusing the state he's speaking in, confusing Hungary and Turkey, on and on and on. Lots of print/media reflection in the last year (long before the debate) that MAGA doesn't care about his gaffes but Dems hyper-vigilant about Biden's.

Neither should be running for President.

by Anonymousreply 103July 9, 2024 1:50 PM

I guess he wants to be surrounded by yes-people who do his bidding and take his word for everytthing. Stupid and egoistic.

by Anonymousreply 104July 9, 2024 1:52 PM

We need a president who can be told the truth and respects the truth. Neither of these clowns does.

by Anonymousreply 105July 9, 2024 1:52 PM

Trump is going to spend the next 3.5 mos. stumbling, slurring, mixing-up names, threatening, lying and meeting with his 27 different lawyers. Why focus on Biden?

by Anonymousreply 106July 9, 2024 1:55 PM

What would be the datalounge reaction if Trump reverted to a thee year old's vocabulary and the White House pressured media to cover it up?

Example - Saying he did his goodest.

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by Anonymousreply 107July 9, 2024 2:02 PM

After what the Supreme Court decided vis a vie presidential immunity, does it even matter who is elected? Eventually SOMEONE will come along with terrible intentions and will be protected.

by Anonymousreply 108July 9, 2024 2:29 PM

That means it matters all the more, R108.

by Anonymousreply 109July 9, 2024 3:58 PM

Curious whether Carter outlives Biden at this point, to be honest. I‘d have greater trust in the former. He‘s not shaking hands with imaginary people. Good luck with calling everyone a troll who is pointing out the obvious. You need to nominate a capable person - capable in the loosest possible sense because the opponent is Trump - if you want to win in November. If you don‘t, it‘s you damaging democracy this time. The GOP showed us that you don‘t need any moral qualities, intellect, manners or education to become president. You are about to show that the president has nothing to say anyway and it doesn‘t matter who is president as obviously others make decisions for him, even the ones that nominally pertain to the president. It is bad if he stays, for democracy and for America, possibly worse than another four years of Trump.

by Anonymousreply 110July 9, 2024 4:23 PM

R105, Your observation that President Biden is a "clown" shows a less than discerning mind.

by Anonymousreply 111July 9, 2024 5:05 PM

Nancy and Hakeem are herding those cats. Nailer has already flip flopped. More will follow in the days to come.

by Anonymousreply 112July 9, 2024 5:10 PM

[quote] Curious whether Carter outlives Biden at this point, to be honest.

I hope not. I want Biden to see the outpouring of grief for Carter, a man who had time to rehabilitate his reputation, and know that he will never have that.

by Anonymousreply 113July 9, 2024 5:11 PM

[QUOTE] Biden is also a narcissist, which makes sens because almost everybody who runs for president is, but to imagine he could take pride in his debate performance suggests he has no judgement

Joe Biden has done nothing but admit his debate performance was terrible. He’s said it a million times over! Where are you Biden haters getting this stuff from?

by Anonymousreply 114July 9, 2024 7:11 PM

R114, he followed up with non-stop rambling interviews. He didn’t just have a bad debate performance, he has a non-stop bad brain.

by Anonymousreply 115July 9, 2024 7:12 PM

R85 No nobody has ever pointed out on DL that Trump is a fat lying piece of shit. Indeed we are all hypocrites. Now get the fuck off this site and spout your crazy man garbage on some city street.

by Anonymousreply 116July 9, 2024 7:52 PM

Some of the Nato alliance are worried about Biden running again. They like him as a person but have noticed that he often repeats himself or goes off topic. I hate this!

by Anonymousreply 117July 9, 2024 7:58 PM

[quote]Some of the Nato alliance are worried about Biden running again. They like him as a person but have noticed that he often repeats himself or goes off topic.

They're gonna love Trump again.

by Anonymousreply 118July 9, 2024 7:59 PM

No. They'll hate the idea of an American telling them the US won't give them a free ride forever. After decades, only in the last year or two have most NATO nations moved towards living up to their commitments.

Now with leftist governments in the UK and France I'm skeptical they will maintain this new pace.

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by Anonymousreply 119July 9, 2024 8:07 PM

R119 Shouldn't you be over at Stormfront talking about Trump's delicious turds?

by Anonymousreply 120July 9, 2024 8:19 PM

Democrats emerging from a closed-door meeting Tuesday to discuss President Biden’s political future offered support for their party leader a day after the White House’s full-court press to beat back critics within his party, even as some detractors pushed for a reset.

In a meeting that ran for roughly two hours, the debate was lopsided in favor of keeping the president on the ticket — a dynamic suggesting that Biden has, at least for now, prevented the slow seep of individual detractors from becoming a flood.

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by Anonymousreply 121July 9, 2024 8:21 PM

R119 thanks for that article.

by Anonymousreply 122July 9, 2024 8:24 PM

I'm just glad Biden will be leaving the scene naked.

by Anonymousreply 123July 9, 2024 8:33 PM

As the incumbent, Biden can start leading on Day 1- no hiring or moving or months of chaos. That alone is attractive to me as a voter. And with a mandate like a second term he can do a lot of awesome things in 48 mos.

by Anonymousreply 124July 9, 2024 9:27 PM

The only mandate will be to defeat Biden and elect Trump, sadly. Biden cannot win unless Trump does something outrageous to turn off voters, which could happen but seems unlikely. I understand why they feel they have to stick with Biden (because he doesn't want to step down), but it's not a winning strategy.

by Anonymousreply 125July 9, 2024 9:31 PM

R121 - typical tunnel-vision and downright cowardice of the Democratic Party. Say hello to another 4 brutal years of Trump.

by Anonymousreply 126July 9, 2024 9:31 PM

You were on here saying the same thing in 2020 when Biden vanquished whatever Dem nominee’s dick you were sucking, R126. Who were you rooting for? Klobuchar? Pete? Let me guess, fucking Bernie Sanders?

by Anonymousreply 127July 9, 2024 9:41 PM

[quote][R121] - typical tunnel-vision and downright cowardice of the Democratic Party. Say hello to another 4 brutal years of Trump.

There's toilet paper stuck to your shoe, r126...

by Anonymousreply 128July 9, 2024 9:54 PM

#125 certainly has an agenda. Dozens of anti-Biden posts and they all start right after the debate.

by Anonymousreply 129July 9, 2024 9:57 PM

Guilty. Right after grandpa screwed the pooch.

by Anonymousreply 130July 9, 2024 9:59 PM

[QUOTE] #125 certainly has an agenda. Dozens of anti-Biden posts and they all start right after the debate.

But what the hell could his agenda possibly be, R129. I don’t get it. Are these people here to convince Dataloungers that Biden is so old, they need to vote for Trump this November? Surely they can’t be under the impression that a torrent of anti-Biden posts on DL will somehow get Joe to step down so King Gavin can take over.

Joe Biden is the Democratic nominee for president. End of discussion.

by Anonymousreply 131July 9, 2024 11:06 PM

moving

right

the

fuck

along.....

by Anonymousreply 132July 9, 2024 11:20 PM

[quote]But what the hell could his agenda possibly be, [R129]. I don’t get it. Are these people here to convince Dataloungers that Biden is so old, they need to vote for Trump this November?

Sometimes I think they have a humiliation kink and get off on DLers thinking they're idiots.

by Anonymousreply 133July 9, 2024 11:33 PM

[quote]Are these people here to convince Dataloungers that Biden is so old, they need to vote for Trump this November? Surely they can’t be under the impression that a torrent of anti-Biden posts on DL will somehow get Joe to step down so King Gavin can take over. Joe Biden is the Democratic nominee for president. End of discussion.

R131 how did you type that with your little fists on your hips?

by Anonymousreply 134July 9, 2024 11:35 PM

I think you’re not allowing for Democrats to want Biden to step down for the good of the party and country. And yes, this is because he is too weakened as a candidate to win.

By the way, please feel free to share your plan on how he can turn things around. I would love to hear it.

by Anonymousreply 135July 9, 2024 11:36 PM

NBC: A hot bear Neurologist comments on Biden's health.

He has no doubt as to what's going on here...

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by Anonymousreply 136July 9, 2024 11:38 PM

There's a difference between having concerns about Biden's physical condition and electability and repeating ad nauseam that he and his family are evil and doomed to defeat. The former is understandable, the latter is trolling.

by Anonymousreply 137July 9, 2024 11:40 PM

[quote]I think you’re not allowing for Democrats to want Biden to step down for the good of the party and country. And yes, this is because he is too weakened as a candidate to win.

[quote]By the way, please feel free to share your plan on how he can turn things around. I would love to hear it.

By the way, r135, feel free to share your choice for the person to replace him that would beat Trump. We're behind Joe.

[quote]With the eyes of the world on him, President Joe Biden delivered a forceful speech to open the NATO summit in Washington, aiming to reverse doubts about his fitness for the job domestically while boasting that his leadership revitalized the storied alliance and saved Ukraine.

[quote]The president didn’t fumble over words as he often does during remarks. He was clear and forceful, appearing energized by the transatlanticism that he has embraced throughout his political career.

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by Anonymousreply 138July 9, 2024 11:51 PM

He’s more persistent than me!

by Anonymousreply 139July 9, 2024 11:54 PM

[quote]We're behind Joe.

The voices in your head can vote? I'm impressed.

Biden can deliver all the teleprompter speeches he wants. The curtain has been pulled back, and revealed him for what he is.

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by Anonymousreply 140July 9, 2024 11:56 PM

Awwww, r140, do you need attention? Is that what you need?

by Anonymousreply 141July 10, 2024 12:03 AM

R141 yes.

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by Anonymousreply 142July 10, 2024 12:12 AM

You still haven’t shared your plan for Biden to win.

by Anonymousreply 143July 10, 2024 12:48 AM

[quote]You still haven’t shared your plan for Biden to win.

You still haven't shared your viable alternative that would beat Trump.

by Anonymousreply 144July 10, 2024 12:52 AM

Any number of people - Harris, Newsom or Shapiro. That would energize the party.

But you are ducking the question of how Joe can win.

by Anonymousreply 145July 10, 2024 12:54 AM

[quote]But you are ducking the question of how Joe can win.

Joe will win because he will get more votes and win the Electoral College...that's how, silly. He's done it before.

by Anonymousreply 146July 10, 2024 1:00 AM

Four months to November is an eternity in politics. If Biden doesn’t have another debate-like fiasco, there’s plenty of time to turn this around. That he’s running against an historically terrible, evil former president can’t be discounted.

by Anonymousreply 147July 10, 2024 1:16 AM

R147 which Peoples Temple congregant are you?

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by Anonymousreply 148July 10, 2024 1:24 AM

You aren't here to discuss, r148, you're only here to make noise.

by Anonymousreply 149July 10, 2024 1:28 AM

[QUOTE] Any number of people - Harris, Newsom or Shapiro. That would energize the party.

Yes, nothing says “energize” like Josh Shapiro.

by Anonymousreply 150July 10, 2024 1:34 AM

President Shapiro!

I don't see it.

by Anonymousreply 151July 10, 2024 1:35 AM

R147, there’s no turning this around. The internet is forever. He’s done a million interviews that are now worse than the debate. The entire would is running with this. It’s over for Biden.

by Anonymousreply 152July 10, 2024 1:38 AM

R149 Like this?

KABOOM!

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by Anonymousreply 153July 10, 2024 1:43 AM

Biden and his cabinet are a million times more competent than the old, orange Turnip and his criminal toadies. .

I really don’t understand all the hand-wringing.

by Anonymousreply 154July 10, 2024 1:49 AM

[quote]There's a difference between having concerns about Biden's physical condition and electability and repeating ad nauseam that he and his family are evil and doomed to defeat. The former is understandable, the latter is trolling.

And then there's obsessive-compulsive "concerns" over Biden's health after 15-20 campaign events, 2-3 live TV interviews, and a NATO summit.

They're actually starting to cover Biden events live in the hopes they'll catch him in a senior moment.

It's just creepy and weird at this point.

by Anonymousreply 155July 10, 2024 1:50 AM

"But what the hell could his agenda possibly be,"

To switch the candidate to John Bouvier Kennedy Schlossberg and lose bigly.

by Anonymousreply 156July 10, 2024 1:50 AM

[quote][R147], there’s no turning this around. The internet is forever. He’s done a million interviews that are now worse than the debate. The entire would is running with this. It’s over for Biden.

Aren't you just the *cutest* little drama queen, r152? Why yes you are!

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by Anonymousreply 157July 10, 2024 1:52 AM

No comments about the conclusions made by the specialist at R136?

He comes right out and says it: Biden has Parkinsion's. He has a degenerative disease.

Has he examined Biden? No. But he says that Parkinson's is actually easy to diagnose and that you could see that Biden has Parkinson's "from across the Mall".

There's a cover-up going on here.

by Anonymousreply 158July 10, 2024 2:06 AM

George has spoken.

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by Anonymousreply 159July 10, 2024 2:11 AM

The parkinsons thing is BS. Biden was not even in DC for most of the parkinsons doctor's visits. Also he doesn't shake. I've known a few people that had parkinsons and they shook like crazy. But the NYT basically is pushing this narrative and they have it out for Biden.

by Anonymousreply 160July 10, 2024 2:37 AM

[quote]But the NYT basically is pushing this narrative and they have it out for Biden.

It's ridiculous how blatant it's gotten, r160.

by Anonymousreply 161July 10, 2024 2:42 AM

I'll trust the neurologist.

by Anonymousreply 162July 10, 2024 2:47 AM

[quote]Also he doesn't shake. I've known a few people that had parkinsons and they shook like crazy.

John Hopkins Medicine:

"Myth: Everyone with Parkinson's disease has tremors."

"Fact: It's easy to connect tremor to Parkinson's disease because it's a prominent and recognizable symptom. But some people with Parkinson's never have a tremor, and even those who do may not have it at the start of the condition."

by Anonymousreply 163July 10, 2024 2:50 AM

Hmm. It seems the Biden or nothing folks have no plan. Just a hope that he will somehow win from doing his “goodest.”

by Anonymousreply 164July 10, 2024 3:00 AM

I wonder if he's been taking meds for Parkinsons for years and they've become ineffective (I think that's how it works, with L-Dopa). I asked Google AI and it said:

Can levodopa be used long term?

Patients receiving long-term levodopa therapy must contend with some adverse effects. After 5 years the majority of these patients suffer fluctuations, dyskinesias, toxicity, or loss of efficacy.

by Anonymousreply 165July 10, 2024 3:16 AM

Karine Jean-Pierre just said he is not taking Parkinson's meds.

Has the President been treated for Parkinson's? No.

Is he being treated for Parkinson's? No, he's not.

Is he taking medication for Parkinson's? No.

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by Anonymousreply 166July 10, 2024 3:22 AM

It’s a bad sign for Joe that the Democrats are still divided about him. I wonder if they are hoping he face plants at his NATO press conference on Thursday.

by Anonymousreply 167July 10, 2024 3:22 AM

Cleaning up the lies:

CNN — President Joe Biden saw a neurologist at the White House in January as part of his annual physical, White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre said in a new statement Tuesday evening, correcting her comment from earlier in the day that the specialist’s visit earlier this year had not been related to the president.

by Anonymousreply 168July 10, 2024 3:24 AM

Well, if he's not taking meds, he should be.

by Anonymousreply 169July 10, 2024 3:25 AM

His behavior would be consistent with being off his meds.

by Anonymousreply 170July 10, 2024 3:29 AM

I looked it up on WebMD. Now I'm a Parkinsons expert!

by Anonymousreply 171July 10, 2024 3:31 AM

R171 An expert gives his opinion at R136

[quote]CNN — President Joe Biden saw a neurologist at the White House in January as part of his annual physical, White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre said in a new statement Tuesday evening, correcting her comment from earlier in the day that the specialist’s visit earlier this year had not been related to the president.

What more do we need to know that this White House is lying?

by Anonymousreply 172July 10, 2024 3:36 AM

[quote]Cleaning up the lies:

My, my, r168...how convenient of you to omit the complete story. Bless your heart.

by Anonymousreply 173July 10, 2024 3:39 AM

Grandpa, you can no longer drive. It's getting dangerous for you and everyone else. Give us the keys.

by Anonymousreply 174July 10, 2024 3:40 AM

Trump is all over the Epstein stuff and has 34 counts against him. How did it come to this?

by Anonymousreply 175July 10, 2024 3:41 AM

It came to this because Joe Biden is a piece of shit.

by Anonymousreply 176July 10, 2024 3:53 AM

LoL, r176, go sling your poo-poo caca somewhere else.

by Anonymousreply 177July 10, 2024 3:57 AM

[quote]Grandpa, you can no longer drive. It's getting dangerous for you and everyone else. Give us the keys.

Remember when Biden wanted to put a moat on the US Mexican border and fill it with snakes and alligators?

Crazy shit.

Oh wait sorry, that was the other one. My bad. They're so much alike you know.

by Anonymousreply 178July 10, 2024 4:09 AM

A woman of Color would lose.

A White woman would lose.

A gay man would lose.

A Jewish man would lose.

And a Californian would lose.

Who is the Magic Candidate that can defeat Trump?

Please don't suggest Michelle. She wouldn't step foot back in the WH. And she's not known for any policies.

by Anonymousreply 179July 10, 2024 4:12 AM

I'm your man, r179.

by Anonymousreply 180July 10, 2024 4:15 AM

Streisand/Gaga 2024

by Anonymousreply 181July 10, 2024 4:16 AM

[quote] Who is the Magic Candidate that can defeat Trump?

ROFL

“Trump is so terrifying that no Democrat can defeat him”

“The only person who can defeat Trump is a senile liar who may be dead before the end of the year whose bitch wife and crackhead son have been running the country in secret and whose approval rating has hovered in the high 30s for two years and that was even before people found out he was senile”

by Anonymousreply 182July 10, 2024 4:18 AM

Trump in Doral: "Mothers will never again be forced to watch their children overdosing and hosp--lee. And we will never allow mothers to watch their child hopelessly dying in their arms, screaming, 'What can I do? What can I do? Help me God, what can I do?' We are a nation whose once revered airports are a dirty, crowded mess."

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by Anonymousreply 183July 10, 2024 4:31 AM

easy for rich, famous, white men to take bold risks?

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by Anonymousreply 184July 10, 2024 4:33 AM

Biden lover at R179, do you really believe only Joe - the absolute weakest candidate - is the only person who can beat Donald Trump? 🤣 hahaha. Or is this just your thing to get attention?

by Anonymousreply 185July 10, 2024 4:51 AM

r185 is the reason the word retarded was invented.

by Anonymousreply 186July 10, 2024 4:54 AM

Jesus, you *have* to trolldar r185. Reading all of her doom posts in a row is quite entertaining.

by Anonymousreply 187July 10, 2024 4:56 AM

You’re so full of shit. Just admit you love elderly Joe Biden 💕 and are delusional.

by Anonymousreply 188July 10, 2024 4:59 AM

I half wonder if the Biden lover 💕 is a Russian plant to keep Biden in the race. It’s certainly not smart.

by Anonymousreply 189July 10, 2024 5:05 AM

R183 So Dump's latest fixation is on how bad air travel is nowadays? Totally coherent, but Joe is the senile one.

by Anonymousreply 190July 10, 2024 5:19 AM

R189, You are actually stupider than r185. But thanks for thinking I have such major influence on the Biden campaign!

R185, Put up or STHU. Name your better candidate and his or her path to Electoral victory. And show the polls. I'll wait.

"Anybody But Biden" posters:

Where's the new campaign $ coming from? Team Biden CANNOT transfer any.

How does switching horses in mid-stream convey Party confidence, strength, unity, leadership, steadiness? If you just say, well, anything is better than what Biden is conveying, you don't see the proverbial forest.

How can this New Candidate possibly campaign enough around the country by November?

What's the advertising pitch? "Joe Was Good; Now We're Great!"? Yeah, yeah, I know: "Moving Forward" or some such dismissive empty slogan.

Who do you imagine can unite the Party and prevent a disastrous floor fight at the Convention? The visuals alone would be fatal.

I sit ready to be informed.

by Anonymousreply 191July 10, 2024 5:30 AM

No you don’t. You’re just full of shit. Kamala is already polling better than Biden and would get all of the campaign funds. You are either dense or just posting your contrarian crap for attention.

by Anonymousreply 192July 10, 2024 5:40 AM

And as for the reason for the switch, it’s because Biden is not up to running and winning. Definitely not serving for another 4 years. But you already know this.

by Anonymousreply 193July 10, 2024 5:42 AM

Open convention would totally energize the voters.

by Anonymousreply 194July 10, 2024 6:19 AM

No it would not R194, the last time they had one it almost turned into a riot. Only MAGA and Putin want this.

by Anonymousreply 195July 10, 2024 7:51 AM

Civil war would totally energize the voters.

by Anonymousreply 196July 10, 2024 11:16 AM

Youth voters don't exist. They're notoriously unreliable.

by Anonymousreply 197July 10, 2024 2:34 PM

R155 This (your) is the perspective that baffles me. I am a lifelong Democrat who of course will vote for Biden if that's the choice. I am set to do canvassing for the Dem ticket, I've given $ to both Biden and other GOTV initiatives. I believe with all my heart that Trump's election is an existential threat to our Republic.

But the events, strategies and performance after the debate 1) reinforce your belief that he can win this 2) further discourage me, I see belligerence, not strength - I don't think Joe gets it now and 3) does absolutely nothing to win over the swing voters and re-establish the Biden coalition he had in 2020. He was in trouble with swing voters before the debate... it's gotten worse after the debate, and nothing, yet, he's done since stops the sliide.

Today's polls that show him in trouble in MN and NH... we could be on the verge of a landslide victory for the fascists. Thats NOT ok. Check how this morning Pelosi said "Joe has to decide if he is going to run".... that message is clear, a cry from the heart, "Joe, please step aside and let someone else try to win this.... you can't."

by Anonymousreply 198July 10, 2024 3:00 PM
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by Anonymousreply 199July 10, 2024 3:08 PM

LOL at Pelosi saying Joe still has to decide, completely ignoring his letter. She knows he’s not viable.

by Anonymousreply 200July 10, 2024 3:09 PM

R200 And few people in American politics is better at the public messaging that has a private meaning. She's telling Joe to step aside.

This is NOT something to celebrate. But we need to get on with it. We need to win this election.

by Anonymousreply 201July 10, 2024 3:11 PM

R195, is everyone who disagrees with you MAGA or Russian? Or is that just here?

by Anonymousreply 202July 10, 2024 3:16 PM

[quote]She's telling Joe to step aside.

She absolutely is. I wonder if she'll tell him that to his face?

by Anonymousreply 203July 10, 2024 3:18 PM

R202 It's such a hard time. I think to help (although I guess that's condescending) the people who are so angry at calls for Joe to let someone else run, this is only thing I'll post now:

[quote]I love Joe Biden. But we need a new nominee.

by Anonymousreply 204July 10, 2024 3:20 PM

R202: a few people are so completely invested in their very liberal political identity that ANY dissention is seen as a threat. Toe-the-line, or you're MAGA/Russian in their heads.

by Anonymousreply 205July 10, 2024 3:25 PM

Clooney:

“It’s devastating to say it, but the Joe Biden I was with three weeks ago at the fund-raiser was not the Joe “big F-ing deal” Biden of 2010. He wasn’t even the Joe Biden of 2020. He was the same man we all witnessed at the debate.

Our party leaders need to stop telling us that 51 million people didn’t see what we just saw. We’re all so terrified by the prospect of a second Trump term that we’ve opted to ignore every warning sign.

The George Stephanopoulos interview only reinforced what we saw the week before.

As Democrats, we collectively hold our breath or turn down the volume whenever we see the president, who we respect, walk off Air Force One or walk back to a mic to answer an unscripted question.”

by Anonymousreply 206July 10, 2024 3:30 PM

R205 I don't know, I think it's more individual than that essentialism. I am so invested in my liberal progressive identity (i.e values), that I really want Joe to step down, I post that all over.

by Anonymousreply 207July 10, 2024 3:41 PM
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by Anonymousreply 208July 10, 2024 3:46 PM

Okay, fine; I yield (for now).

If I were Joe, I'd quit. Tell'em, "Now go and do WhateverTF you want."

by Anonymousreply 209July 10, 2024 6:05 PM

R209 I am not holding my breath, but Jesus I'd love if Joe stepped down with dignity, integrity and strength, and democrats could honor him for the best Presidency in our lifetime, and build upon his legacy to win the November election.

by Anonymousreply 210July 10, 2024 6:11 PM

Correcting myself:

Any other candidate would probably receive Biden money from a PAC. Also, as VP, Kamala is on the ticket already, so likely would receive Biden campaign funds.

I think the move is a done deal. Too much public push for it from Very Important People.

The timing? The Republican Convention is soon.

Funny though, the opprobrium lobbed at a fervent pro-Biden Democrat. Who knew?

by Anonymousreply 211July 10, 2024 6:15 PM

I’m looking forward to the Olympics as a much-needed distraction from all this insanity.

by Anonymousreply 212July 10, 2024 6:23 PM

[quote]The timing? The Republican Convention is soon.

Biden announcing his withdrawal from the race next week would certainly suck all the air out of convention coverage and drive Trump into a jealous rage as a result.

by Anonymousreply 213July 10, 2024 6:36 PM

Also, how would their speeches go? Rather than rage against Biden, they’d have to rage about an undetermined candidate.

by Anonymousreply 214July 10, 2024 6:38 PM

R213 This makes so much sense. Pelosi's careful withholding of unqualified support does seem a kind and respectful way to set the stage for his withdrawal...and what an effective unplugging of the MAGA nonsense that it coming next week. In his "I'm done, thanks" speech, as he "hands it off to a younger generation" he can talk about Trump's age, the draconian Christian dictatorship described in Project 2025. You wanted Joe to get people's attention and make the case? How about in a speech where he passes the torch?

by Anonymousreply 215July 10, 2024 6:56 PM
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by Anonymousreply 216July 10, 2024 7:03 PM

Thank you George Clooney. Thank you.

After the horrible debate, I originally thought well he is 81, maybe he was a bit disoriented from cold meds. But then his press secretary stated that he didn’t take any. I’m not a doctor so I won’t make up things about people’s health. The debate was more than just his raspy voice and old appearance. He wasn’t completing sentences in ways that an educated person or someone heavily involved in these matters would. There is something amiss, and his health is his private business. Well technically its is not because he is president. At any rate we all know what we saw at the debate and ABC interview.

by Anonymousreply 217July 10, 2024 7:03 PM

I just want to add something else. Trump’s complete restraint regarding Biden’s mental decline kinda confirms something for me. He knows something. Trump is a former president and would be able to secretly get info from the White House.

by Anonymousreply 218July 10, 2024 7:06 PM

R218 Complete restraint... is curious. Did you see clips of him at his rally yesterday?

by Anonymousreply 219July 10, 2024 7:16 PM

R219 No. is he now going for the jugular? Day 1 after the debate, Biden’s mental state has dominated the political press. I kinda expected Trump to talk about it constantly. But I guess he is now changed back to pre-debate.

by Anonymousreply 220July 10, 2024 7:34 PM

If your horse limps on three legs, you don’t need a vet to make the decision to not let it race. You get the vet to find out what’s wrong. Separate issues. „But are you a doctor?“ is pure gaslighting. We can count legs on a horse and we can see Biden is not fit for the job anymore.

by Anonymousreply 221July 10, 2024 7:55 PM

R127 - sweetie, in case you haven't noticed, it's 2024 not 2020. The situation is vastly different. Biden has deteriorated rapidly even in recent months. Everyone can see it, even those who wish to avoid facing that bitter reality. Get your head (and the stick) out of your ass, you tedious dipshit.

by Anonymousreply 222July 10, 2024 8:39 PM

R135 - I feel sorry for any of the DLers still adamantly pro-Biden remaining as the weakened candidate he is even when it's so painfully obvious he's only half-coherent most of the time. They will have a problematic reality smack them in the face in November. I hope they have the emotional stamina to face it.

by Anonymousreply 223July 10, 2024 8:47 PM

R223 Just today I've come to believe that Biden will step down before the Dem convention.

After the convention, whether it's someone new or Biden, we will all pull together and fight like hell to win the election. Congress, Senate, and presidency. Contributing $, convassing... those arguing now about Biden and his capacity will WORK TOGETHER to protect the Republic.

by Anonymousreply 224July 10, 2024 9:36 PM

[quote] Also, how would their speeches go? Rather than rage against Biden, they’d have to rage about an undetermined candidate.

It would actually be brilliant if Biden were to step down immediately before Trump's big speech at the Republican convention. You know that Trump's speech will be all about attacking Biden, Hunter Biden, etc. The Trump team would have to completely rewrite Trump's convention speech on the fly.

by Anonymousreply 225July 10, 2024 9:43 PM

Regardless of what happens to Biden, Trump's big speech will be extemporaneous rambling about his very stable golf game, the cleanest airports in history, BFF tough guy Kim Jong Un, his immunity to fire all New York judges (except for Judy and Jeanine), not raping porn stars, the freedom to abort incest fetuses when your daughter is still in high school (like the Virgin Mary did in the Bible), and his most secure border wall and/or Berlin wall that Democrats tore down brick by brick.

by Anonymousreply 226July 10, 2024 10:36 PM

Fuck George Clooney!

by Anonymousreply 227July 10, 2024 10:44 PM

R226 In fact in most of Trump's most formal speeches he reads from the teleprompter - which is what he'll do at the convention. It keeps him on the reservation but it also makes him fucking boring and exposes his crackpot policy ideas.

God I hope Biden does step down, if he is going to, an hour before Trump's speech. Epic fuckery.

by Anonymousreply 228July 10, 2024 10:56 PM

R227 Who raised many millions for Joe. Did you contribute? Or do you just like to post on social media. I've given money and canvassed, even though I am an old fart.

by Anonymousreply 229July 10, 2024 10:58 PM

Isn't Clooney's wife working on negotiations with Israel over Gaza?

Is this palace backstabbing shit?

by Anonymousreply 230July 10, 2024 11:30 PM

Yes, R230, Clooney lulled Biden into complacency by headlining an event that raised $28 million for his campaign coffers just so it would that much more painful when he stabbed him in the back today.

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by Anonymousreply 231July 10, 2024 11:36 PM

R231 Such bullshit isn't helping. Biden at the fundraiser was unable to speak coherently (see reports other than Clooney's - like the Pod Save America guys) and the hope was, "well, he'll rest and be better" and then the debate.

You guys just don't get it... unless something unpredicted happens, we are on the verge of an historic landslide loss to the worst American politician ever... That's what's motivating Clooney et. al. Would we have won with 2020 Biden? I absolutely believe we would have. That's not who is running now.

by Anonymousreply 232July 10, 2024 11:43 PM

R231 And right, here's 28 million. That's what traitors do... with the intent to "lull him into complacency"... you are raising 28 mil so your guy can be tricked into complacency.

Stop this insanity. Argue your case as to why Biden, this Biden, can beat Trump. I'll listen. But this other garbage is just money in Trump's bank.

by Anonymousreply 233July 10, 2024 11:45 PM

In 12 months he will have full on dementia. If I were his child I would be frightened for my father and deciding worriedly what kind of care he would shortly need.

I'd get him out of there and take care of him. Biden's entire family is showing themselves to be a clusterfuck of very selfish people not thinking of their husband or father and his health needs at all.

by Anonymousreply 234July 10, 2024 11:50 PM

R232/233, check your sarcasm meter.

by Anonymousreply 235July 11, 2024 12:14 AM

Senator Welch is the first democratic senator calling for Biden to step down.

by Anonymousreply 236July 11, 2024 12:15 AM

[quote]Biden's entire family is showing themselves to be a clusterfuck of very selfish people not thinking of their husband or father and his health needs at all.

How very dare they, r234!

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by Anonymousreply 237July 11, 2024 12:19 AM

Biden seems desperate right now, calling delegates. No one around him is telling him the truth.

by Anonymousreply 238July 11, 2024 12:33 AM

Of course he's desperate, as soon as he gets out of office his wife and son will be arrested.

by Anonymousreply 239July 11, 2024 12:35 AM

Oh, shut up, r239.

You're insane. Take your meds.

by Anonymousreply 240July 11, 2024 12:39 AM

Top election predictor: TRUMP LIKELY WINNER if Biden is replaced

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by Anonymousreply 241July 11, 2024 12:39 AM

Allan Lichtman: "Won't somebody please shit in my mouth!"

by Anonymousreply 242July 11, 2024 12:55 AM

It must be so hard for Joe to let go. But at 81, why is he holding on? It only can be ego and delusion, since he would be 86 (if still alive) at the end of his term. Time to relax Joe, get hammered on the beach, and then wake up to your beloved ice cream.

by Anonymousreply 243July 11, 2024 1:18 AM

Joe is getting very threatening if he is removed. He is going mad besides getting mad.

He is talking like he will take down the party if he is not the nominee. Totally nuts.

by Anonymousreply 244July 11, 2024 1:29 AM

I do, R227.

by Anonymousreply 245July 11, 2024 1:33 AM

R244 which is more evidence it’s time to go.

by Anonymousreply 246July 11, 2024 1:34 AM

Hakeem has to go the White House and tell him he should step aside because there isn’t enough support for him.

by Anonymousreply 247July 11, 2024 1:35 AM

[quote]r244 = He is talking like he will take down the party if he is not the nominee. Totally nuts.

Oh noes, r244...

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by Anonymousreply 248July 11, 2024 1:36 AM

[quote] Joe is getting very threatening if he is removed. He is going mad besides getting mad. He is talking like he will take down the party if he is not the nominee. Totally nuts.

He’s gone from Hitlerian bunker mentality to embracing a scorched earth policy.

by Anonymousreply 249July 11, 2024 1:40 AM

What time is his press conference tomorrow? I’m 😱 scared

by Anonymousreply 250July 11, 2024 1:43 AM

5:30 pm EST

by Anonymousreply 251July 11, 2024 1:53 AM

You Biden haters are nuts. Joe’s threatening to take down the party? The Democratic Party wouldn’t exist if Joe didn’t win that election. Trump would have banished it from the ballot by now and jailed all of the Democratic leaders. No one would be allowed to run against him after he suspended the constitution with the help of his rightwing Supreme Court.

by Anonymousreply 252July 11, 2024 1:53 AM

No one hates Joe. We just want him and you to face reality.

by Anonymousreply 253July 11, 2024 1:59 AM

How about you face my ass and plant a nice wet one for me?

by Anonymousreply 254July 11, 2024 2:08 AM

R252 Not Biden haters, at all. He's the best President of my lifetime. I respect and admire Joe so much. And he's taking the party to an historic loss. He needs to pass the torch, and do so with honor and integrity.

by Anonymousreply 255July 11, 2024 2:22 AM

Everybody who's seriously calling for Biden to withdraw needs to spell out a detailed, document plan on a. how to shift $100 million of Biden/Harris campaign finances to Candidate X; b. how to negotiate switching ballots in all 50 states over to Candidate X without tossing the entire election into court.

Otherwise,

[bold]SHUT

YOUR

STUPID

IGNORANT

MOUTH.[/bold]

Seriously. Wishing for puppies and rainbows for November 2024 if the DNC finds the magic unicorn candidate everybody likes is clinically insane.

by Anonymousreply 256July 11, 2024 2:32 AM

Thank you, r256.

by Anonymousreply 257July 11, 2024 2:47 AM

R256 You haven't been paying attention, apparently. There have been exhaustive reviews on what would happen to the $$ (I guess about 91mil in the accounts as of this week).

If it's Kamala, it's seamless. She gets the $ immediately.

If it's somebody else, it's more problematic. Likely the $ is donated to PAC, not directly to candidate (like Shapiro or Newsom, for example).

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by Anonymousreply 258July 11, 2024 2:49 AM

Also... ballots are not produced by the states until after the convention. Biden is not the Dem Party candidate yet, he is the presumptive candidate. All printing and officially approved ballots, state by state, gets done after the convention. (Except for Ohio, who has intentionally put their deadline for the convention, just to fuck with Biden/or whoever the Dem candidate is).

by Anonymousreply 259July 11, 2024 2:53 AM

[quote] how to negotiate switching ballots in all 50 states over to Candidate X

This would only be an issue if the Democrats nominate Biden and then later decide to switch him out for someone else. As I understand it, there are no ballots to "switch" because no one has yet been nominated, so the ballots haven't been printed. The earliest ballot deadline is in Ohio, which is Aug. 7, which is why the Democrats want to do a virtual roll call to finalize the nominee before the convention. Most states' ballots won't be printed until September. Worst case scenario is that Biden's replacement wouldn't appear on the Ohio ballot. But Ohio is pretty much a lost cause for Democrats this year anyway.

[quote] without tossing the entire election into court.

It's possible that Republicans might try to challenge all of this in court. But again, as long as Biden is replaced before the official nominating process takes place, any lawsuit would be dismissed. From the attached Washington Post article:

[quote] Experts said Republicans could try to object to Biden’s replacement in court. But if he drops out before the convention and delegates vote on someone else as the Democrats’ presidential pick, they said, any challenge to placing that person on the ballot would immediately be dismissed. If Biden were to drop out after becoming the Democratic nominee, the legal landscape is a bit less clear.

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by Anonymousreply 260July 11, 2024 2:55 AM

R256 Also, I don't want you to shut your fucking mouth. I want you to express your opinions thoroughly, I would suggest you listen to others' opinions too, who may pose different ideas.

When this disruption over the Dem selection of candidate is over (I am hoping by next week, but maybe not until the convention), we need TO COME TOGETHER, and do everything we can to beat Trump and save the Republic.

by Anonymousreply 261July 11, 2024 2:59 AM

A little background from a MI election official on why "just swapping the candidate" is clinically insane.

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by Anonymousreply 262July 11, 2024 3:00 AM

R262 She's a county clerk. Axelrod, who has run a successful national Presidential campaign twice, disagrees.

by Anonymousreply 263July 11, 2024 3:04 AM

[quote] A little background from a MI election official on why "just swapping the candidate" is clinically insane.

The election official says that Michigan law requires presidential and VP candidates to be certified to the state within one business day of the party's convention. She says the deadline for the Democrats would be Aug. 26. And she says military and overseas ballots must go out by Sept. 21. In other words, there is no issue in Michigan unless the Democrats were to nominate Biden at the convention and then replace him later.

Then, she says, "My cursory understanding of other states is that the deadline may already have passed for some states, or may be in the VERY near future." Here, she is just stupid. Her "cursory understanding" is wrong. Ohio has the earliest deadline for certifying the candidates for their ballots -- Aug. 7.

Ballots have not yet been printed anywhere because there is not yet a nominee. There are no ballots that need to be "switched."

by Anonymousreply 264July 11, 2024 3:16 AM

R256.

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by Anonymousreply 265July 11, 2024 3:19 AM

As Democrats we have always taken success and shit on it, snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Biden did a fantastic job as POTUS, and for this we say, t hanks but here we are about 4 months before an election, you have a outstanding record of achievement, but OMG we just noticed about two weeks ago that fuck, you're getting old. You walk old. You talk old and damn if you don't get enough sleep you get brain fog. So you need to drop out. George Clooney, who sold his Italian Villa on Lake Como so he could buy one in France, and who has an estate in Surrey in the UK where he lives 90% of the time, he thinks you need to drop out. So does Rob Reiner. You remember Rob Reiner? And Seth Moulton. Yeah. Seth is a Congressman. He just got an interview with Anderson Cooper of all people on CNN! He's hit the big time! He's that guy that challenged Pelosi for Speaker that time because he thought she was too old, and he got his ass handed to him? Handful of members of Congress. So like there's more than 200 Democratic members of the House and 50 Democratic Senators? And maybe 8-10 have come out asking for you to drop out. Maybe they want attention, because they are not names that come to mind readily. But, hey.

by Anonymousreply 266July 11, 2024 3:28 AM

Jesus Christ, the term "Mighty Joe Biden" has never been lamer.

by Anonymousreply 267July 11, 2024 3:28 AM

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by Anonymousreply 268July 11, 2024 3:32 AM

If Joe does a David Koresh, goodbye to Democrat voters. Millions will sit out the election in protest and will also stop giving money.

by Anonymousreply 269July 11, 2024 3:34 AM

Even Dana Perino on “The Five” on Fox thinks Biden should somehow cancel his Thursday afternoon presser..

by Anonymousreply 270July 11, 2024 3:37 AM

R266 Democrats begged and pleaded with him not to debate Trump. You can't actually win against someone who will tell any lie with confidence and self-belief if you dn't have the power to physically intimidate him and Joe does not have that power. I t is BIDEN who snatched defeat from victory. He didn't have to do anything. He didn't even have to campaign himsel.f

by Anonymousreply 271July 11, 2024 4:03 AM

Seth Moulten and George Clooney have spoken, people. Biden should resign ASAP!

by Anonymousreply 272July 11, 2024 4:04 AM

[quote] Democrats begged and pleaded with him not to debate Trump.

No, they didn’t. They expected Mighty Joe Biden to wipe the floor with Trump and were screaming that Trump wouldn’t show.

by Anonymousreply 273July 11, 2024 4:41 AM

[quote] Not Biden haters, at all. He's the best President of my lifetime.

Oh, Jesus Christ. What are you, two?!

by Anonymousreply 274July 11, 2024 4:42 AM

Does anyone think that all the Obama people are piling on to get Biden out so Hillary can be brought in as last minute savior candidate? I’m starting to think it could happen. There’s a poll showing she and Harris ticket beating Trump.

by Anonymousreply 275July 11, 2024 5:08 AM

^ Well if there's a poll, it must be valid.

by Anonymousreply 276July 11, 2024 5:24 AM

[QUOTE] Does anyone think that all the Obama people are piling on to get Biden out so Hillary can be brought in as last minute savior candidate?

The only person the Obama people hate more than Joe right now is Hillary Clinton. Nobody wants Hillary, other than Donald Trump who would love to beat her again.

by Anonymousreply 277July 11, 2024 5:28 AM

STREISAND 2024

by Anonymousreply 278July 11, 2024 5:38 AM

Knowles-Carter/Pitt 24

by Anonymousreply 279July 11, 2024 5:48 AM

IF President Biden steps aside, anybody who thinks VICE-PRESIDENT Kamala Harris is going to the back of the bus instead of to the top of the ticket is delusional.

by Anonymousreply 280July 11, 2024 6:50 AM

Whom would you choose, r274, and when were you born?

I'm 1949, so I've got: Truman; Eisenhower; JFK; LBJ; Nixon; Ford; Carter; Reagan; Bush 41; Clinton; Bush 43; Obama; Trump; Biden.

Low points: Dropping the Atomic bomb; the Korean Conflict; Vietnam; Kent State; Watergate; Whip Inflation Now; Oil Crisis; Iranian Embassy hostages; Trickle Down economics; Iran-Contra; Rwanda; Impeachment; 9/11; S&L Crisis; Bank Bail-out; Covid-19.

Much is up for discussion and judgment, of course, but I don't think the Biden years are as grim.

by Anonymousreply 281July 11, 2024 7:06 AM

[quote] Everybody who's seriously calling for Biden to withdraw needs to spell out a detailed, document plan on ... how to negotiate switching ballots in all 50 states over to Candidate X without tossing the entire election into court.

Trump HASN'T EVEN PICKED A RUNNING MATE, so there's no way the presidential ballots could already have been printed. Ballots don't get printed until after the candidates are nominated at the conventions. There are no ballots to "switch." Yet R256 gets 5 W&W's for spewing such obvious bullshit and has the audacity to call everyone else ignorant.

by Anonymousreply 282July 11, 2024 7:39 AM

[quote]Trump MISSING, Melania MISSING, Biden has 18 public events

Even this stinking turd of a man is smart enough --for once-- to set aside his pride and need for attention to let Biden hang himself by his own rope. He did it at the debate, he's done it since allowing all the unfavorable light to be shined upon Biden and almost none upon himself.

For once he doesn't have to lie and connive and cheat and bribe, he just sits back and lets the limelight shine very, very badly upon Biden. It's the best possible gift for Trump, now in its Denial and Digging in Deeper stages.

by Anonymousreply 283July 11, 2024 7:43 AM

If Biden were up to it, he could have reversed the damage from the debate with a great recovery at single unscripted event. He hasn’t.

I’m skeptical of Harris’ chances. There is nothing worse than “‘my turn” candidates. But even she could at least put up a fight, rather than trying to convince the American people she is not senile.

by Anonymousreply 284July 11, 2024 8:54 AM

I just want to point out that not all of us pro-Biden posters are the same poster. My anger, like much anger in general, stems from fear.

I've come to the vacillating moment, and mentioned that Joe's post-debate assertion that Philly voters helped him with his Delaware Senator campaign was not good. At all.

I am a "vote for a dead dog before a Republican" Democrat, and have been my entire life.

Will we, can we, rally 'round Kamala sufficiently in time and numbers to defeat the forces of Fascism, ignorance, bigotry, and the rest of The Usual Gang of Trumpian Suspects?

I cast my first vote on November 5, 1968, my 19th birthday, only to see Nixon win.

If there is any justice to the Universe, my vote this year, on my 75th birthday, will add to a Democratic victory.

by Anonymousreply 285July 11, 2024 10:02 AM

Tucker Carlson is going around saying Nixon was the most popular US president ever. Total lie of course. James Monroe was.

by Anonymousreply 286July 11, 2024 10:06 AM

Tucker who?

Sorry, we don't know him. - Fox

by Anonymousreply 287July 11, 2024 10:33 AM

[quote]There is nothing worse than “‘my turn” candidates.

There's nothing worse than that stupid argument. Kamala is the most well position to win if not Biden. She has has experience as a VP which every few can claim. Plus she is the only one that will have access to the 100's of millions their campaign raised. Has nothing to do with who's turn it is, she the logic choice just given the facts as well. Anyone else will be an even bigger uphill battle.

Nothing worse than a nonexistent unicorn candidate that has not been named wants to even do the job and has the money to do it.

by Anonymousreply 288July 11, 2024 10:39 AM

[quote]She has has experience as a VP which every few can claim. Plus she is the only one that will have access to the 100's of millions their campaign raised.

Much of the money is already gone. Biden has spent heavily in the past month with nothing to show for it except collapsing poll numbers. Biden’s spend in swing states dwarfs Trumps while he continues to drop in each one. I don’t live in a swing state and since Biden’s debate, I have been subject to an unceasing barrage of Biden ads asking for donations on social media and YouTube. He is spending that money so Kamala cannot have it.

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by Anonymousreply 289July 11, 2024 10:46 AM

WTF are you talking about R289, Biden has more than 240 Million in his war chest. That's hardly "much of it is gone" BS narrative you are trying to push.

by Anonymousreply 290July 11, 2024 10:54 AM

Biden has spent 64.2 million in the past month while Trump has spent 14.6. Many of these markets have no rational basis for ad spends with Biden spending 27 million on Sunbelt states alone where he has been underwater for months.

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by Anonymousreply 291July 11, 2024 10:55 AM

Joe is the first president running against a CRIMINAL Republican candidate, a corrupt Republican Party not held accountable for their Sedition, a corrupt Supreme Court, AND a right-wing corporate media who is able to pay a$787M fine for lying to the American people, that CONTINUES to lie to the American People.

Joe Biden CANNOT DO THIS ALONE.

by Anonymousreply 292July 11, 2024 10:56 AM

[quote]Joe Biden CANNOT DO THIS ALONE.

Be President, go to the bathroom, it’s all the same tbh.

by Anonymousreply 293July 11, 2024 10:57 AM

Bidenists: Joe Biden CANNOT DO THIS ALONE.

Biden: I alone can fix it.

by Anonymousreply 294July 11, 2024 10:58 AM

Stop being a dismissive, game show cunt.

by Anonymousreply 295July 11, 2024 10:59 AM

Who's claiming he can do it alone you silly Troll? Biden will have the same success team moving forward that he's had the last 3 years accomplishing more Democratic goals than any other president in the last 50 years.

by Anonymousreply 296July 11, 2024 11:00 AM

[quote] Stop being a dismissive, game show cunt.

Learn better English if you want to troll on American message boards.

by Anonymousreply 297July 11, 2024 11:02 AM

[quote]NATO officials are both saddened at how Biden’s fortunes have turned and frustrated that the storyline has distracted from what was to be a celebratory summit. They are also increasingly resigned to his defeat this November, which they fear could halt or reverse the 32-member alliance’s recent momentum, threatening Ukraine’s ability to fend off Russia’s onslaught and the broader stability that has been the bedrock of the organization since its Cold War creation.

Goodbye Ukraine! Be best!

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by Anonymousreply 298July 11, 2024 11:06 AM

Then stop being a dismissive game-show cunt.

Better English, asshole? And I am an American.

But I am not the Troll here.

by Anonymousreply 299July 11, 2024 11:06 AM

[quote]Then stop being a dismissive game-show cunt.

I wasn’t talking about the hyphen, you freaking dumbass, which has made it even more grammatically incorrect. “Game show” is not used as an adjective that way in America.

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by Anonymousreply 300July 11, 2024 11:10 AM

[quote]“Game show” is not used as an adjective that way in America.

Go ask Mark Burnett.

You are wrong.

Is Reality Show Host HOAX better?

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The Apprentice was a GAME SHOW.

Trump is a Game Show Host.

You are a game show CUNT.

When Trump was killing people holding infected ships offshore because he didn't want his number to suffer, he tipped his hand that "his numbers" were more important than killing sick Americans.

Trump is a game show HOAX who is also a cunt.

by Anonymousreply 301July 11, 2024 11:32 AM

[quote] You are a game show CUNT.

Again, this is not an expression used in America.

by Anonymousreply 302July 11, 2024 11:37 AM

Russian Trolls all over the DL at this hour. They suck at their job and just wasting time. If I were Putin I would have them "accidentally"fall out of that Troll Farm Window.

Is there a way to contact the head of the Troll farm and report their lazy asses?

by Anonymousreply 303July 11, 2024 11:41 AM

Anyone else sick of hearing about "Russian trolls"?

by Anonymousreply 304July 11, 2024 11:49 AM

NYT Editorial Board: Trump Is “Simply Unfit To Lead”

"Mr. Trump has shown a character unworthy of the responsibilities of the presidency. He has demonstrated an utter lack of respect for the Constitution, the rule of law and the American people. Instead of a cogent vision for the country’s future, Mr. Trump is animated by a thirst for political power: to use the levers of government to advance his interests, satisfy his impulses and exact retribution against those who he thinks have wronged him.

He is, quite simply, unfit to lead. We urge voters to see the dangers of a second Trump term clearly and to reject it. The stakes and significance of the presidency demand a person who has essential qualities and values to earn our trust, and on each one, Donald Trump fails. When someone fails so many foundational tests, you don’t give him the most important job in the world."

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by Anonymousreply 305July 11, 2024 11:51 AM

r302, I am an American. I use it all the time.

If I can call you a game show addict, I can call you a game show cunt.

Not even a good diversion.

Trump is a game show cunt.

by Anonymousreply 306July 11, 2024 12:23 PM

Everybody knows Trump is shit. Why do people keep bringing him up? This has been discussed for years and years. We are not saying he will be better than a senile Biden who more often than not is giving the bewildered old man 1,000 yard stare when he is challenged by a complex question. Did he say he was the first black female president? I keep hearing this but I haven't found proof. But if he did say it I wouldn't be surprised.

And the trolls saying he is fit as a fiddle mentally and physically must only be watching his rah rah cheerleader shouting 'I will not give up the nomination! I will win.' It is the only time he manages to pull it together simply because of hearing it for a lifetime and repeating it like a parrot.

by Anonymousreply 307July 11, 2024 12:40 PM

[quote] Does anyone think that all the Obama people are piling on to get Biden out so Hillary can be brought in as last minute savior candidate? I’m starting to think it could happen. There’s a poll showing she and Harris ticket beating Trump.

No such poll exists.

by Anonymousreply 308July 11, 2024 1:08 PM

[quote]Does anyone think that all the Obama people are piling on to get Biden out so Hillary can be brought in as last minute savior candidate?

No one sane.

by Anonymousreply 309July 11, 2024 1:39 PM

This afternoon’s Biden solo press conference has now been moved from 5:30 PM to 6:30 PM.

by Anonymousreply 310July 11, 2024 2:00 PM

[quote]Will we, can we, rally 'round Kamala sufficiently in time and numbers to defeat the forces of Fascism, ignorance, bigotry, and the rest of The Usual Gang of Trumpian Suspects?

In time, R285? If, as you said, Biden might have turned around waivering support in a single debate, do you not think that 15 or 16 or however many weeks is not enough for a candidate who looks healthy, is even reasonably articulate and adept at message, and doesn't have to be ushered on and offstage by Mommy Dr. Jill?

In fact there's much to be said for a new candidate who has not received the relentless day Fox News and social media treatment for 4 years.

Of course Republicans would find faults or simply invent them as they do, but but imagine a candidate who didn't act like he was 106 years old, clever with words and debating and projection a message... 15 weeks+/- is plenty of time.

Until things started to look really bad as the first debate approached, I was hoping that Biden and the Dem party would engineer a fake out where y Biden pretends to be in the running then, surprise, bows out shortly before the convention with a shortlist of viable, not overexposed candidates in order. That would have been ideal.

It could still be ideal.

If Biden cares Amniota about his previous legacy, he'll move out of the way and let someone else in the game.

by Anonymousreply 311July 11, 2024 2:17 PM

[quote] This afternoon’s Biden solo press conference has now been moved from 5:30 PM to 6:30 PM.

This is to prove he can still function after 6pm.

by Anonymousreply 312July 11, 2024 2:22 PM

The Obamas and Clintons are speaking thru their surrogates, like Axelrod, Carville and Clooney. Both families think that Biden is going to lose and take the party down with him:

Clooney Gave Obama Heads-Up About Biden Op-Ed: Politico Playbook

Ahead of its publication, George Clooney told former President Barack Obama about his plans to pen an op-ed for The New York Times calling on Biden to drop out, sources told Politico Playbook.

While Obama did not weigh in on the text, he also didn't urge Clooney to hold off on going public with his reservations about Biden, Politico's Rachael Bade, Eugene Daniels and Ryan Lizza write, citing sources familiar with the exchange.

by Anonymousreply 313July 11, 2024 2:28 PM

I think the president should voluntarily take meaningful cognitive/neurological tests to measure his current functioning, although this would not necessarily alleviate concerns regarding his ability to function in a second term.

I think that [more than] the optics are not good that he has so far refused to do so.

This is not to denigrate the successes in his current term.

by Anonymousreply 314July 11, 2024 2:28 PM

If he has no issues, shouldn’t be anything to worry about.

by Anonymousreply 315July 11, 2024 2:32 PM

R310 They need to be careful, it might run past his bedtime.

by Anonymousreply 316July 11, 2024 2:40 PM

How did our politics, over the long term, reach such a deteriorated point?

by Anonymousreply 317July 11, 2024 2:41 PM

The Dems have only until August 7 to resolve this if their candidate is going to be on the Ohio ballot.

by Anonymousreply 318July 11, 2024 2:42 PM

R289 Did you even read the article you linked to? This is internet "discourse" now, I guess. Find a headline that aligns with one's views, don't read it, but reference it when trolling on social media.

Biden campaign brought in $38mil the day after the debate, a stunning unprecedented day of fundraising. Then the donations dried up (which is what the article is about). By most sources there is between 90 and 100 mil in the bank now....

... which would be instantly available to Harris, should she replace him. I am grateful to Joe for a very good presidency. And now he needs to pass the torch.

I also wish the "anti-MAGA" coalition wouldn't cut each other to shreds in this current period of figuring out if Biden is still the one who can make the argument against Trump.

by Anonymousreply 319July 11, 2024 2:55 PM

Today's WaPo/ABC News poll, showing the race deadlocked, puts a nail in the head - for now at least - to any possibility that Biden will drop out. Trump is so widely reviled that he can still lose this election, even if Biden cannot win it. That assumes Trump doesn't remain holed up at Mar-a-Lago until the election.

by Anonymousreply 320July 11, 2024 3:00 PM

R300, Trust me; you're wrong. And the hyphen is correct.

Ken Jennings is a game-show host. Drew Carey is a game-show host. Leah Rimini is a game-show host.

Now, what YOU are, I'll leave to the judgment of others.

by Anonymousreply 321July 11, 2024 3:03 PM

R321 why do you lie

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by Anonymousreply 322July 11, 2024 3:06 PM

R320, And as long as I'm digressing about the English language....It's either:

"Hits the nail on the head." Or

"A nail in the coffin."

by Anonymousreply 323July 11, 2024 3:07 PM

The Biden campaign is coming off the rails. The post-debate tailspin continues with the new AP poll showing Joe spiraling out of control into.. a statistical tie with Trump, exactly where they were before the debate.

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by Anonymousreply 324July 11, 2024 3:08 PM

If he stays, I'm worried about his performance in the upcoming debates.

by Anonymousreply 325July 11, 2024 3:09 PM

Prepare yourselves for the upcoming GQP convention hatefest. It'll remind voters of how truly awful tRump and the Republicans are.

by Anonymousreply 326July 11, 2024 3:13 PM

Check the example sentences, r322, and let's call it even.

(However, the hyphen serves to clarify, as a "game show host" could be one who is up for anything, "game.")

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by Anonymousreply 327July 11, 2024 3:15 PM

Let me clear something up. Carville does not speak for the Clintons, neither does George Stephanopoulos. And David Axelrod parted company with Obama after he left the White House and took a job as pundit on the network circuit. But most assuredly Axelrod broke with Obama when Axelrod shit all over Hillary Clinton in 2016, and Barack was working his ass off for her. Once any of these former aides to presidents get a job on network TV the usually don't carry any water for their former colleagues or boss. Unless they work for Fox.

by Anonymousreply 328July 11, 2024 3:27 PM

The first-term member from Grand Rapids is the first frontline member of Congress from a 2024 battleground state and the first freshman to urge the 81-year-old president to step aside, saying he should pass the torch and "allow a new leader to step up."

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by Anonymousreply 329July 11, 2024 3:47 PM

Joe fully intends to pass the torch—after he wins the election. If he and his family determine that he cannot run any further, then he can pass the torch to Kamala at the convention. A nice smooth handoff that avoids a messy open convention, with the key to his campaign funds given to her. That’s the only way it should be done.

by Anonymousreply 330July 11, 2024 3:55 PM

[quote] Joe fully intends to pass the torch—after he wins the election.

In a scenario where he wins the election, he has to, he’ll be dead.

by Anonymousreply 331July 11, 2024 3:57 PM

R330 Joe will pass the torch after the election, which he will do at the convention, which is before the election.

I'm glad we're all thinking so clearly these days.

by Anonymousreply 332July 11, 2024 4:04 PM

Several of President Joe Biden’s closest allies, including three people who are directly involved in efforts to re-elect him, told NBC News they now see his chances of winning as zero — and the likelihood of him taking down fellow Democratic candidates growing.

“He needs to drop out,” one Biden campaign official said. “He will never recover from this.”

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by Anonymousreply 333July 11, 2024 5:04 PM

[quote]Anyone else sick of hearing about "Russian trolls"?

YES WE ARE, stop picking on us = Troll Farm Employee

Now lets get back to dividing America by posting fake outrage and Biden must go articles and keep seeding decent for stupid Americans to fight over.

by Anonymousreply 334July 11, 2024 5:08 PM

[quote] Now lets get back to dividing America by posting fake outrage and Biden must go articles

I’m surprised you aren’t claiming that all those posted articles from the top news outlets in the country are fake. Was that a bridge too far for you?

by Anonymousreply 335July 11, 2024 5:15 PM

TONIGHT!

PRESIDENT BIDEN NEWS CONFERENCE.

6:30 p.m. ET. MSNBC.

Can its importance BE overstated (Chandler Bing voice)?!

by Anonymousreply 336July 11, 2024 5:15 PM

It's interesting how all of these Biden should drop out threads blow up and the threads about tRump and the awful GQP fall by the wayside.

by Anonymousreply 337July 11, 2024 5:17 PM

I feel like this video is unironically relevant to not only Biden, but a lot of his most fervent supporters in this thread who are, clearly (and some admittedly) his peers. Say what you will, but the biggest obstruction to progress in one's personal life and society as a whole has historically been the elderly.

They cling to retain control of everything and refuse to designate tasks to obviously more capable individuals because, I swear, something happens to the elderly brain once a person hits 70. Stubbornness gets dialed to over 9000 and you can't tell them anything. Elderly people are also more prone to anxiety because they feel more vulnerable. And as a result, they allow fear to rule their decisions. One of those fears is change and uncertainty. Their nerves literally cannot handle it.

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by Anonymousreply 338July 11, 2024 5:22 PM

R338 - yes, I see this often, even with my good friends in their 50s and 60s. One of my best friends has dug in regarding Biden remaining as the nominee, and he's going frantic with fear and anger trying to convince everyone around him, while also denigrating and putting people down who disagree with him even a tiny bit. He is as bad as the MAGA cult. He's absorbed and internalized the propaganda from sites like Talking Points Memo and the Daily Beast. Thankfully, he's no longer posting from Daily Kos. I worry about his mental health as he's also prone to profound depressive incidents. A Trump presidency will send him over an edge. All I can do is be there for him as a friend, as I dearly love him, even if I quietly disagree with his perspectives.

by Anonymousreply 339July 11, 2024 5:30 PM

[quote] TONIGHT! PRESIDENT BIDEN NEWS CONFERENCE.

Everyone will be watching tonight's press conference to see whether Biden is coherent or makes a fool of himself. No one actually cares about the NATO summit itself. That's the problem for Biden from here until November. All of the focus will now be on how he looks and sounds, not on his actual message, which will make it hard to energize voters and beat Trump.

by Anonymousreply 340July 11, 2024 5:35 PM

R340 is absolutely correct. Biden has to be near perfect mentally every time he is in public from now until November. It's likely an impossible standard for him to meet. The Democrats would be crazy not to get rid of him while there is still time to do so.

by Anonymousreply 341July 11, 2024 5:41 PM

R304, by screaming "Russian trolls", they don't have to turn on their brains to consider the possibility that people are right that Biden being replaced is the best choice for the Democrats. You cannot argue with someone who thinks everyone who disagrees with him is an agent. It will never get anywhere.

by Anonymousreply 342July 11, 2024 5:49 PM

[quote] It's interesting how all of these Biden should drop out threads blow up and the threads about tRump and the awful GQP fall by the wayside.

Almost as if the number of Biden threads and interest correlated with the understandably huge volume of coverage about the story by the news media.

by Anonymousreply 343July 11, 2024 5:51 PM

No amount of tests is going to turn back Father Time. It’s coming out now that Joe has had MULTIPLE incidents like the debate. It will only get worse.

by Anonymousreply 344July 11, 2024 5:59 PM

If there's one thing true in your philosophy, dear Yorick, it is that "the elderly" know what it is to be young, while the young do not know what it is to be old.

For example: If anyone young thinks that a person in their 70s is a "peer" of someone in their 80s---that is to say, the post-WW2 Generation as "peers" to the "Silent Generation"---nope, not correct. But they'll learn, if they're lucky.

by Anonymousreply 345July 11, 2024 6:13 PM

r345 Bro. If you're 10 years or less apart from someone, that is your peer. It's not based on generation, but your age group. A 75 year old and an 81 year old will both be in their 80s in 5 years. Tf are you even talking about, right now?

by Anonymousreply 346July 11, 2024 6:34 PM

Joe is a FIGUREHEAD. The President signs LEGISLATION or NOT.

This is a battle between 70% of America who like things Pre Dobbs, Pre Citizens United, Pre Shelby County and 30% of the crazy White People who think that GOD gave them America.

by Anonymousreply 347July 11, 2024 6:53 PM

I know one thing, I better not see any of you Biden haters celebrating Joe’s victory on here this November. Your asses are NOT invited to the party.

by Anonymousreply 348July 11, 2024 7:17 PM

R348 This is my worry, that what you've just posted is a real view by people.

Please pay attention: I am Biden supporter, I gave $ to him in 2020 and now in 2024 (multiple times). If we get through August, the convention is over, and Biden is still the nominee I will support him, give $, and (already signed up) phone canvass for him and other Democrats. AND I think it's time for him to pass the torch, and I believe that a younger candidate (I am fine with Harris) can have better chance to beat Trump.

If Joe insists on running, and he wins? Jesus fucking christ will I be happy and celebrate.

So, please, understand. We all want the same outcome, we disagree on the best way to get there.

by Anonymousreply 349July 11, 2024 7:34 PM

Six ways Biden's Presidency could end tonight IF: #1. He shits on the floor #2. Starts ranting and raving about UFOs. #3 Forgets Jill's name #4 starts talking about a conversation he had with Beau...last night...#5. he stops talking and start shaking the hands of the reporters asking them which House district they represent #6. If he has lapses...long pauses of silence with his mouth hanging open and he's drooling.

by Anonymousreply 350July 11, 2024 7:55 PM

Chris Matthews makes sense

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by Anonymousreply 351July 11, 2024 8:00 PM

Chris Matthews is a loon.

Why do you think he lost his MSNBC show?

by Anonymousreply 352July 11, 2024 8:18 PM

Chris Matthews is from another time. Joe Biden 2016 or 2020 could make this work. The one we have now can’t.

Trump is not far behind in cognitive function, but that won’t be the story unless there is a contrast.

by Anonymousreply 353July 11, 2024 8:22 PM

Breaking:

NBC News confirms: The Biden campaign is quietly assessing the viability of Vice President Kamala Harris' candidacy against Donald Trump in a new head-to-head poll. @MSNBC

by Anonymousreply 354July 11, 2024 8:23 PM

To see if she can win or to prove that she can't?

by Anonymousreply 355July 11, 2024 8:24 PM

R355 it means they’re exploring options.

by Anonymousreply 356July 11, 2024 8:26 PM

R351 He makes important points... but doesn't address the issue at hand: can Biden prosecute the argument against Trump and win the election.

All the Biden loyalists keep making the point about what a great guy Biden is, what a long history of service he has, how he is prototypically the real Democrat.... all of that is true. No one disputes that (or I don't). But is Biden, July 2024 capable of beating Trump? That is really in question.

by Anonymousreply 357July 11, 2024 8:27 PM

Why, Russian trolls would NEVER try and influence online conversation.

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by Anonymousreply 358July 11, 2024 8:35 PM

Thank you R358.

by Anonymousreply 359July 11, 2024 8:39 PM

Biden is and has always been a liar. He is power-hungry and spent his whole life trying to be president. He lies about stupid shit like his uncle being eaten by cannibals and other equally stupid shit. I have never liked him. I will not vote for him again.

by Anonymousreply 360July 11, 2024 8:47 PM

They made it seem like Biden and Obama were pals but now I learn Obama never even invited Joe upstairs in the White House. Obama seems like a cold fish.

by Anonymousreply 361July 11, 2024 9:10 PM

R361 Obama also said "Never underestimate Joe's ability to fuck things up" Although I don't think he used the word fuck but I forgot what word he used. I'm having another Biden moment.

by Anonymousreply 362July 11, 2024 9:14 PM

R360 Biden is the most effective President of my lifetime. And he needs to pass the torch...now.

by Anonymousreply 363July 11, 2024 9:20 PM

[quote] I know one thing, I better not see any of you Biden haters celebrating Joe’s victory on here this November. Your asses are NOT invited to the party.

My view has been evolving the last two weeks. I’ve come to accept that Biden will stay, although I believe that will cause the Democrats to lose the White House.

by Anonymousreply 364July 11, 2024 9:25 PM

Chris Matthews thinks Biden will win because he's the comeback kid who always proves his doubters wrong. That might be true if it were only a matter of Biden being behind in the polls. But the issue here isn't about politics. It's whether Biden is mentally fit to run for another term. If he is, great. But if not, it's hard to see how Biden can make a comeback, no matter how great his political instincts might be. It would be like a football quarterback who loses his arms and legs but still insists he can lead his team to victory.

by Anonymousreply 365July 11, 2024 9:26 PM

R362 He didn’t want to be a house of Cards you stankin ass bitch. We now see Biden is a maniac.

by Anonymousreply 366July 11, 2024 9:26 PM

Biden would publicly contradict Obama several times during his presidency. I remember it well, and I thought it was disrespectful. A VP's job is to support the President. One time was when Obama was trying to reassure people to keep traveling during some outbreak, and Biden turned around and had to tell the press that he wouldn't want anyone he knew getting on a plane.

Of course, you would hear the "lovable old Joe" BS as an excuse, but he's always given off vibes of someone who thinks he's the smartest person in the room. It also reeks of a little bit of resentment because he had to settle for being VP after trying several times. But Barack really helped improve Biden's reputation, which prior to that wasn't so great. He really would be wise to seek Barack's advice.

by Anonymousreply 367July 11, 2024 9:29 PM

Sorry my comment was meant for r361.

by Anonymousreply 368July 11, 2024 9:33 PM

Biden has been a much better President than Obama who defines empty suit. But Biden is 82. No one can solve that problem.

by Anonymousreply 369July 11, 2024 9:33 PM

R369 Don’t lie again.

Obamacare

Freedom of Marriage Act

by Anonymousreply 370July 11, 2024 9:36 PM

Thank Pelosi for that. Obama had a Dem Congress and got very little through. He also was above politics and let the GOP take over one state legislature after another. He couldn’t get RBG to retire and let the Supreme Court become MAGA central. Never was tough enough with Russia or Iran. He gets an A for charisma and that’s about it.

by Anonymousreply 371July 11, 2024 9:40 PM

Look, Obama was a cautious moderate. He governed from the center. Biden had to push him on Gay marriage, and on Healthcare. Biden and Pelosi got him to agree to try it after Obama's staff told him it would never pass. Now Biden urged caution on the Bin Laden hit. He was unsure Bin Laden was at the location and didn't think they had enough information to hit it. Biden excels on domestic issues and always has. There's a lot of nonsense out herer about their relationship, but Obama was close to Biden even knowing his quirks and limitations. When Beau was sick, Obama loaned Biden the money so he didn't have to mortgage his house. Joe has done a remarkable job. Hei s a consequential President and history will be kind to him. I really hate this bullying and rumor mongering by the media, the back benchers and some Hollywood assholes. You cannot force a President out of office. Even Kissinger and Haig knew that. This has to be Biden's decision and his family and inner circle of staffers have to buy in to it.

by Anonymousreply 372July 11, 2024 9:43 PM

R371 I instructed you not to lie. So obey.

Saved the car industry

Killed Osama

Diverted the home loan crisis.

by Anonymousreply 373July 11, 2024 9:45 PM

BREAKING NEWS

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by Anonymousreply 374July 11, 2024 9:52 PM

R374 laughing. This is unreal. Every fkin day. The man’s mind is gone. Fuck Jill Biden.

by Anonymousreply 375July 11, 2024 9:54 PM

What’s holding up Joe’s press conference, diarrhea?

by Anonymousreply 376July 11, 2024 11:08 PM

[quote] What’s holding up Joe’s press conference, diarrhea?

Thursday is tapioca night.

by Anonymousreply 377July 11, 2024 11:10 PM

These events never start on time.

by Anonymousreply 378July 11, 2024 11:10 PM

R374 Maybe this needs a new thread. Good grief.

by Anonymousreply 379July 11, 2024 11:14 PM
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by Anonymousreply 380July 11, 2024 11:17 PM

Mighty Joe’s press conference looks like it’s going pretty good to me.

by Anonymousreply 381July 11, 2024 11:57 PM

Joe is killing it with talking about substance while not having to deal with a bump stock of Trump's lies.

by Anonymousreply 382July 12, 2024 12:28 AM

[quote]Biden had to push him on Gay marriage,

Obama was for it before he ran for President. When Biden was against it.

Biden didn't push him on anything. That's a lie.

by Anonymousreply 383July 12, 2024 2:31 AM

Bill: Silence.

HRC: Silence.

Obama: Silence.

Kamala: Silence.

Deafening.

by Anonymousreply 384July 12, 2024 3:01 AM

VP Harris has not been silent.

by Anonymousreply 385July 12, 2024 5:07 AM

R385, She was sent out of town for the NATO Summit.

by Anonymousreply 386July 12, 2024 9:09 AM

He was okay but he still had plenty of flubs. He can make it though the election but he cannot make it through four more years.

by Anonymousreply 387July 12, 2024 9:18 AM

And a decisive leader he is not and never was. He claims to have seen the threat to democracy before all the press but SCOTUS has given him absolute power. Why hasn't he used it to stop them?

by Anonymousreply 388July 12, 2024 9:19 AM

[quote] He can make it though the election but he cannot make it through four more years.

That would make for great Biden campaign signs and bumper stickers: "FOUR MORE YEARS," except "YEARS" has been crossed out and replaced with "MONTHS" and a question mark.

by Anonymousreply 389July 12, 2024 9:32 AM

Once he makes it through the election, he can go back to quietly moving legislation everyone thought was dead and impossible to pass. He won't have to do 14 time zones in 14 days after he is elected.

His work load as a candidate is horrific, his workload as a president is what he was designed to do.

Thank God, the House Republicans have shut the fuck up, for a while.

I wonder why?

All those Democrats who want Joe off the ticket are FUCKING LAZY.

Down ticket cry babies who do not know hardball politics.

And if they run away from Biden, they are running with Trump.

by Anonymousreply 390July 12, 2024 10:43 AM

I hope Joe points out her is the president of the working man and the last time Trump was in Michigan, Biden was supporting the autoworker's union strike and Trump flew in for a rally to support a non-union, Right To Work For Nothing, subcontractor.

Biden needs to wring Trump's balls so hard that Donald's screams can be heard by the idiots in Ohio.

by Anonymousreply 391July 12, 2024 10:56 AM

Plus, Biden can address P-2025 and ask if there are any non Christians in Michigan that want a forced conversion to Christianity.

He needs to ask THEM if they have read P-2025.

by Anonymousreply 392July 12, 2024 10:58 AM
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by Anonymousreply 393July 12, 2024 11:00 AM

"make it through the election..."?

How about making it through today and tomorrow and then WINNING the election?

Can Biden defenders read? The internal polling indicates that he is losing NOW and it's trending the same or lower.

by Anonymousreply 394July 12, 2024 11:14 AM

Can Biden haters Read?

If the election were held today, who would you support:

Biden 50% / Trump 48%

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by Anonymousreply 395July 12, 2024 11:25 AM

Hard to reconcile these most recent national polls with the reports that Biden’s support is cratering in even states heretofore deemed safe.

by Anonymousreply 396July 12, 2024 11:39 AM

It's easy r396. "Reports" are not votes.

Reports are nice way to say we have gossip on X candidate. They are meaningless in terms of predicting what the mood of the actual voters are thinking.

by Anonymousreply 397July 12, 2024 11:47 AM

Republicans know that Joe is the only Democrat who can defeat their disgusting, bought and paid for, criminal candidate.

They know they have to tear him apart BEFORE the Democratic convention because once Joe is firmly and without doubt the Democratic candidate, they cannot win 2024 with Dobbs, Abortion, and Project 2025's enslavement manifesto.

The smart Democrats are the ones who are either supporting him or saying nothing. That's politics.

by Anonymousreply 398July 12, 2024 11:53 AM

The Marist poll is the only one showing Biden ahead, and it's within the margin of error. All the other recent polls show Trump leading or a tie. The RealClearPolitics average as of today is Trump ahead by 2.7 points. The national polls don't mean much, though. It's the state-level polls that matter because it's the electoral college that will determine the winner.

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by Anonymousreply 399July 12, 2024 11:55 AM

[quote]The national polls don't mean much, though.

Tell that to the Russian / MAGA trolls how post here every day poll after poll, after poll.

by Anonymousreply 400July 12, 2024 11:58 AM

And nobody is pointing out that Republicans are delighted at Democrats tearing each other apart before the Dem's convention.

Because after the convention they are fucked.

by Anonymousreply 401July 12, 2024 12:03 PM

[quote] The national polls don't mean much, though. It's the state-level polls that matter because it's the electoral college that will determine the winner.

And I should have added that the state polls are looking very grim. The link at R399 shows Trump leading in nearly all the battleground states: Arizona, Michigan, Georgia, Nevada, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin. If the election were held today, Trump would win in a landslide.

by Anonymousreply 402July 12, 2024 12:06 PM

I never like Biden and I think he's totally senile but I think these people like George Clooney , Rob Reiner and others who are trying to get rid of him but at first saying what a terrific person he is then right after that saying has to go are FULL OF SHIT. Biden says he wants to stay - who are they to tell him to leave. They are just terrified they he will lose the election to that buffoon Trump. It feels like a COUP. A bloodless COUP. Trying to push a sitting president out of office.

by Anonymousreply 403July 12, 2024 12:33 PM

[quote] Can Biden haters Read?

I hate the cruelty of aging. I hate the cruelties and fears of Republicans and their agenda, one that shields and nurtures their cruelties and fears.

I don't hate Biden.

This thread is infested with Repugs, including the aghast concern troll at r403

by Anonymousreply 404July 12, 2024 12:36 PM

R404 Thanks, so many of these posts on DL and other social media scare the shit out of me - are folks really this crazy, or are they just bots and trolls.

I have pondered our fate (I thought Biden was the only one can beat Trump) - but with Trump's own inanity at the debate, seeing him appear so old and unhinged on the stump, the exposure of Project 2025 and it's extremist proposals that Americans will not accept, and seeing how the polls show the great majority of Americans hate Trump (though also aren't happy with Biden) - I now think that someone else can beat Trump, and even if Trump wins the pushback by those who didn't vote will compromise his second term, make him an ineffective President, even with the SCOTUS in his pocket.

Trump will break things, hurt a lot of people, in a second term. He won't break the Republic.

by Anonymousreply 405July 12, 2024 1:02 PM

R397, Emerson came out with a poll yesterday showing Biden behind in every battleground state. Polls, not reports.

by Anonymousreply 406July 12, 2024 1:04 PM

[QUOTE] If the election were held today, Trump would win in a landslide.

Good thing the election isn’t being held today. Or tomorrow. Or next week. In fact last I checked it’s FOUR MONTHS AWAY.

by Anonymousreply 407July 12, 2024 1:07 PM

Thank you, R406. I see my plan for complete and total disinformation and misinformation is working quite nicely.

I'll have my entire empire back to its pre-1989 days in a year, all thanks to idiotic, stupid, gullible Americans who will believe anything they're spoon fed.

by Anonymousreply 408July 12, 2024 1:07 PM

New NPR/Marist poll: Mighty Joe Biden gained ground after the debate and is now ahead 2 points nationally, hitting the 50% mark. And no other Dem candidate fares better.

Biden hating concern trolls hardest hit.

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by Anonymousreply 409July 12, 2024 1:11 PM

[quote]Obama was for it before he ran for President

Can you cite anything prior to 2006 showing Obama was publicly in favor of gay marriage? Because that's not what he wrote in "The Audacity of Hope," and he was in favor of "strong civil unions" circa 2007. In 2008, he said "I believe that marriage is the union between a man and a woman."

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by Anonymousreply 410July 12, 2024 1:11 PM

Yet Clyburn was on TV this morning saying he’s still backing Biden, so who knows.

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by Anonymousreply 411July 12, 2024 1:17 PM

I'm R410 and hit 'post' too soon. Here was the supposed 'gotcha' about Obama and gay marriage, taken from the Time link:

[quote]In one campaign questionnaire that Obama filled out when running for the Illinois state Senate, he states that he supports domestic partnerships and adding sexual orientation to the Human Rights Act, the state’s civil rights law. He also says that he supports affirmative action for gays and lesbians.

[quote]In another questionnaire for Chicago LGBT newspaper Outlines, Obama says he supports same-sex marriage. In 2009, a copy of his typed responses was unearthed and printed in the Windy City Times. “I favor legalizing same-sex marriages, and would fight efforts to prohibit such marriages,” reads the questionnaire bearing his signature at the bottom. Later, Obama aides will dispute that he actually filled out the questionnaire himself.

The order in which these things happened makes it unclear which position was accurate. But by 1998, he was again answering 'no' on questionnaires and explained himself publicly many times.

by Anonymousreply 412July 12, 2024 1:18 PM

R409, one poll out of many that suggest otherwise. You're going to act shocked in November and blame everyone except the people who had the perfect opportunity (the convention) to go with someone that could cream Trump (almost anyone else), but chose not to aren't you.

by Anonymousreply 413July 12, 2024 1:26 PM

I think it's quite possible, even probable, Biden could still win the national popular vote. What's disturbing Dem party officials, office holders, and some of the rank in file, is polls show losing the swing states AND swing districts in blue states, i.e. losing the Senate and not taking back the House. Trump with the Congress and Supreme Court in his control is not a good thing. That's what "Biden haters" are concerned about.

by Anonymousreply 414July 12, 2024 1:44 PM

R413, just as it was thought only someone like Biden could beat Trump in '20, I don't think the answer this cycle is "almost anyone else." Especially at this late point. Even more so if it's someone other than Harris who would have to create an organization from scratch. And someone not already tested on the national stage.

by Anonymousreply 415July 12, 2024 1:50 PM

You know the media feeds this but people forget that we in America do not have a national election. We have 50 state wide elections. So a national poll is not the most accurate way to measure support. Oh, it hits a lot of different demographics dividing people by race, age, sexual orientation, levels of education, income, etc. and that's helpful, but to the people on the ground dealing with GOTV, they have internal polling they use to target different pockets of voters. It's a numbers game and now it's down to a science. But these national polls give people a lot to talking about in TV. And they can be persuasive with undecided voters who are "leaning."

by Anonymousreply 416July 12, 2024 1:51 PM

I'm no Harris fan at all. However, I think Trump is the only R she could beat, getting just enough to see her as lesser-of-two-evils.

If Biden agrees to withdraw, the convention would be fine with whomever she decides on for veep. Would Biden make a speech endorsing that ticket ... or sulk?

by Anonymousreply 417July 12, 2024 2:21 PM

R417 If Biden is going to step down at all, it will be in a way where he "passes the torch" and completely supports the next guy up. I do think there is no way the next guy would not be Harris. I've not been that impressed with her speaking skills until the last week or so. She's sharp. I think folks are underestimating her.

The poetic justice of a Black, immigrant's child, woman... defeating the racist, anti-immigrant con man, who made Choice go away.... is too good for American not to make it happen.

Harris inauguration speech: "I'd like to thank Donald Trump for helping me get this Black job."

by Anonymousreply 418July 12, 2024 2:53 PM

538 today has Biden the favorite to win the election. I'm so perplexed.

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by Anonymousreply 419July 12, 2024 3:14 PM

Harris is unlikable. So my first gut reaction was that she would be skipped. But realistically, skipping her causes a ton of new problems for the Democrats. And the "never Trump" vote would be more fond of someone unlikable than someone with a steep mental decline, I'm sure.

by Anonymousreply 420July 12, 2024 3:21 PM

[quote] 538 today has Biden the favorite to win the election. I'm so perplexed.

538 notes that “the 538 election model puts a healthy amount of weight on non-polling factors such as economic growth and political indicators. Today these indicators suggest an outcome closer to a 3-point Biden win — clear in the opposite direction of national polls.”

Their model probably hasn’t been updated to include the dementia factor. Also, I assume that it looks at the current inflation rate rather the cumulative inflation, which is the thing that voters care about.

by Anonymousreply 421July 12, 2024 3:25 PM

[quote] And the "never Trump" vote would be more fond of someone unlikable than someone with a steep mental decline, I'm sure.

If you're talking about Never Trump Republicans, I'm not so sure. Biden is seen as a more centrist Dem, so he may be the more appealing candidate for this demographic.

by Anonymousreply 422July 12, 2024 3:27 PM

NYT: Donors Freeze Roughly $90 Million as Long as Biden Stays in Race

by Anonymousreply 423July 12, 2024 3:34 PM

[quote] New NPR/Marist poll: Mighty Joe Biden gained ground after the debate and is now ahead 2 points nationally, hitting the 50% mark.

I would be wary of that poll, and not just because it always favors Biden. In the 7/10 poll, it has Trump at 48%, which is only .7 off the average for Trump. However, at 50% for Biden, that’s a whopping 5.4% above Biden’s polling average. It looks like Democrats have been given an extra 5%.

Similarly, on the question of job approval, the approval average for Biden is 39.8%. The NPR poll has 45% approval. A 5.2% difference, and again giving Biden an extra 5%.

by Anonymousreply 424July 12, 2024 3:35 PM

The original post of this thread was Joe Biden challenging his elite Dem detractors to put up a candidate willing to fight him on the convention floor. So far, nobody has stepped up.

If Joe is so dementia-riddled, and he’s going to sink the entire party in November, then where are the Dem candidates who will challenge him at the convention? Why are your heroes like King Gav and Big Gretch and Mayor Pete so afraid to take this old demented Parkinson’s patient on? According to your cherished polls, Democrats don’t even want Joe anymore. So what’s the problem?

by Anonymousreply 425July 12, 2024 3:45 PM

I think the likes of Newsom, Whitmer, et al., are looking to ‘28. They don’t want to be seen as disloyal Dems. And they don’t want to be seen as challenging Harris, if Biden drops out. In the latter case, if Harris runs & loses, they have a clear shot in ‘28, as Harris will not be seen as a viable contender.

by Anonymousreply 426July 12, 2024 3:59 PM

Why are they looking to 2028 if Biden is so weak that they can knock him off and take the nomination now? In politics, you strike while the iron is hot. You don’t know what your standing will be in four years.

by Anonymousreply 427July 12, 2024 4:07 PM

R423 there's no way to really know that but if it is true and not some more lies and bullshit, fine. In ever election, every campaign donors give or not. They think they call the shots, and some do. Sometimes. WTF ever. But Biden is doing well with fundraising right now. Trump is not. Personally, as the former attorney general of California, I would love to see Kamala make the case against Trump who still has indictments pending. LOL! He would shit a brick of she was POTUS because she would not give an inch. And Kavanaugh and the guys at SCOTUS would be SO pissed off.

by Anonymousreply 428July 12, 2024 4:09 PM

The Republican leadership is so hateful and mean towards women and people of color they would stroke out if Kamala was POTUS. It would be worth it.

by Anonymousreply 429July 12, 2024 4:11 PM

R427, it’s a lot to ask of a candidate to create an organization & launch a campaign out of whole cloth at this late stage.

by Anonymousreply 430July 12, 2024 4:12 PM

r403

[quote]who are they to tell him to leave.

American citizens.

by Anonymousreply 431July 12, 2024 4:18 PM

[quote]But Biden is doing well with fundraising right now. Trump is not.

I don't think the latter is true.

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by Anonymousreply 432July 12, 2024 4:20 PM

[quote]Harris is unlikable.

Same excuse for Hillary and look where THAT got us.

But I see Black men showing up to vote for fuckable Kamala, where they stayed on the couch for Hillary.

by Anonymousreply 433July 12, 2024 4:34 PM

Biden is doing what Trump did in 2016, and skipping the chattering classes, and going directly to the 70% of Americans who hate Dobbs, who hate the Supreme Court, and who have voted for Biden before.

by Anonymousreply 434July 12, 2024 4:36 PM

Also Biden says some ridiculous things. Vote for me so I can restore a woman’s right to choose. But you are president NOW?

by Anonymousreply 435July 12, 2024 4:38 PM

I've had the feeling that the idea all along was to re-elect Biden, then he leaves early to give Democrats the first female president ahead of Republicans. His latest ineloquent episodes seem to be de-railing that. I'm left wondering whether, if Harris is clearly unpopular by 2027 would she run anyway?

by Anonymousreply 436July 12, 2024 4:49 PM
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