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Vive la France!

Je ne regrette rien,

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by Anonymousreply 121July 12, 2024 4:34 AM

Finally some good news

by Anonymousreply 1July 7, 2024 9:09 PM

Before I die, I hope I can figure out the parliamentary system.

by Anonymousreply 2July 7, 2024 9:23 PM

They seem to have a decent number of seats for each of the three parties? What am I missing?

by Anonymousreply 3July 7, 2024 9:26 PM

Thank God

by Anonymousreply 4July 7, 2024 9:32 PM

R3, every media organization said that Le Pen’s party was going to have a blow-out win. Instead, there was an unusually high voter turnout and the far-right failed to secure enough seats to form a government. Macron still has to put together a coalition, of course, but this was quite a waste of money by Russia, which was counting on a Le Pen win.

by Anonymousreply 5July 7, 2024 9:35 PM

^^ That bitch needs to be run out of the country.

by Anonymousreply 6July 7, 2024 9:40 PM

Le Pen and the rural sector were hoping for this win. Your ordinary Frog can't quite face a Right-right leaning Gov just yet.

by Anonymousreply 7July 7, 2024 9:44 PM

Pleasantly surprised.

by Anonymousreply 8July 7, 2024 9:44 PM

Poland, England and now France.

Thank goodness

by Anonymousreply 9July 7, 2024 9:48 PM

It was a good week for the European Left.

by Anonymousreply 10July 7, 2024 9:55 PM

I think it's actually illegal in France to investigate such a question but I wonder how much of this vote margin came from third worlders (now over 7% of the population) voting against Le Pen.

by Anonymousreply 11July 7, 2024 9:56 PM

America will be next to kick Fascism/Putinism right in it's cuntbone.

If white nationalist MAGAts like Russia and Hungary so much, they are welcome to get the fuck out of our country and go live in those shitboxes.

by Anonymousreply 12July 7, 2024 9:59 PM

Hurray! The third world invasion can continue!

by Anonymousreply 13July 7, 2024 10:00 PM

Now, if the American left can just pull themselves together.

by Anonymousreply 14July 7, 2024 10:03 PM

There is no Third World, R13. There’s just one world, you fucking racist troll.

by Anonymousreply 15July 7, 2024 10:04 PM

[quote] They seem to have a decent number of seats for each of the three parties?

If I read the results right, it looks like Le Pen’s party got the most seats for a single party, but the coalitions of parties on the left and in the center got more.

by Anonymousreply 16July 7, 2024 10:18 PM

Way to go, France!

by Anonymousreply 17July 7, 2024 10:19 PM

Thanks R5 that makes sense. Glad Big Mac survives another day

by Anonymousreply 18July 7, 2024 10:37 PM
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by Anonymousreply 19July 7, 2024 10:41 PM

The crowds who have taken to the streets to celebrate are massive.

by Anonymousreply 20July 7, 2024 10:54 PM

Watch if it suddenly becomes an anti-Jew demonstration

by Anonymousreply 21July 7, 2024 11:00 PM

Ha ha to the French Trump

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by Anonymousreply 22July 8, 2024 12:09 AM

Let’s see if they can actually govern. Probably nothing much is going to happen in France for a few years.

by Anonymousreply 23July 8, 2024 12:14 AM

R23, you are probably right. Still. This was a completely unexpected outcome to the almost assured win of the extreme right in France. It makes one hope. People are not, after all, that stupid.

by Anonymousreply 24July 8, 2024 12:49 AM

French people might not be that stupid, R24. The jury is still out on Americans.

by Anonymousreply 25July 8, 2024 12:52 AM

Agrreed, r24. I dont think American people are stupid but now they do have a more challenging option. I am particularly happy for this result because there has been a trend where nothing appears to stop the extreme right, in many countries. The , almost expected, fall of France would be another one. Surprisingly it, didn’t.

by Anonymousreply 26July 8, 2024 1:05 AM

[quote] Let’s see if they can actually govern. Probably nothing much is going to happen in France for a few years.

The French are definitely getting the government they deserve. Heaven help them.

by Anonymousreply 27July 8, 2024 1:14 AM

France will be France with a center-left coalition. Baguettes will be eaten, there will be some strikes, August will still be vacation. We should all be so lucky.

by Anonymousreply 28July 8, 2024 1:19 AM

A triumph for Islam, too, isn't it?

by Anonymousreply 29July 8, 2024 1:36 AM

And the Jews will continue to leave France.

by Anonymousreply 30July 8, 2024 1:37 AM

There is hope. That lePen bitch deserves to die in a grease fire

by Anonymousreply 31July 8, 2024 1:43 AM

I just returned home from a couple weeks in France. I had a feeling this would happen. Before the first round of balloting, not one person tried to shove a political flyer at me.

But after the hard right dominated the first ballot, every other person no matter where I was handed me a Populist flyer.

I’m a moderate but feeling pretty lefty today. The Populists saved their country! Time for us to stop whining and wringing our hands and bury this motherfucker once and for all in November.

by Anonymousreply 32July 8, 2024 1:56 AM

Same old story. The right surges in the first round and then the left wing parties come together and back a centrist candidate in the second round in order to block a right-wing majority. Sarkozy owes his presidency to this phenomenon.

by Anonymousreply 33July 8, 2024 2:17 AM

I'm surprise no one has posted this yet.

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by Anonymousreply 34July 8, 2024 2:23 AM

They just elected a crackpot FAR LEFT government. The country is going to go down in flames. These aren’t Macron types. These are batshit crazy ones. It seems France wants to go extreme whether it’s right or left.

by Anonymousreply 35July 8, 2024 2:30 AM

Even my Labour voting friends in the UK were saying that they’re happy and thank god we didn’t vote for the mess that France just elected.

by Anonymousreply 36July 8, 2024 2:32 AM

Saw this on Twitter:

It's important to remember that the far-left in France is arguably as Eurosceptic and anti-globalism at the far-right. This surprise result is not necessarily an endorsement of the pro-EU/NATO ideology.

by Anonymousreply 37July 8, 2024 2:36 AM

R29, how so? Does everyone have to convert?

by Anonymousreply 38July 8, 2024 2:37 AM

The right wing trolls are really out today... you guys aren't even trying.

Macron remains President, Le Pen's party finishes a surprising third, completely in contradiction to the polls. I haven't seen the fascist kid who was going to be the new leader say anything about "a rigged election"... ah democracy.

Given that no party will have a majority, it'll be a "stay the course" government. Not getting much done, but not breaking things either.

My conclusion on worldwide politics - mostly get rid of incumbents... not necessarily good news for either Biden or Trump (who is running like a sitting President).

by Anonymousreply 39July 8, 2024 2:47 AM

'merica, learn from the French...The centre and left voted strategically. Nuff said.

by Anonymousreply 40July 8, 2024 2:54 AM

From Twitter: "The leader of the Left has called French Jews “an arrogant minority that lectures to the rest.” He wouldn’t condemn 10/7. He praised Hugo Chávez and Nicolás Maduro. He cheered Putin’s invasion of Crimea. Not exactly something to celebrate or emulate."

by Anonymousreply 41July 8, 2024 3:08 AM

"Moshe Sebbag, a rabbi for the Synagogue de la Victoire, tells The Times of Israel that 'it seems France has no future for Jews.' He advises young French Jews to leave for Israel."

by Anonymousreply 42July 8, 2024 3:12 AM

French Jews wouldn't fare any better under Le Pen's Front.

That cunt is Nazi-adjacent, and her sick old father actually WAS one. The Front is chock full of Jew-haters.

Alas, there aren't enough French Jews to sway an election one way or the other. I wonder why...

by Anonymousreply 43July 8, 2024 3:26 AM

[quote]Given that no party will have a majority, it'll be a "stay the course" government. Not getting much done, but not breaking things either.

Meaning they won't fix the immigration and non-assimilation problems, letting those things themselves break things.

by Anonymousreply 44July 8, 2024 3:42 AM

I'll take Far Left over Far Right any day! Not that there's ever been a chance in USA.

by Anonymousreply 45July 8, 2024 4:19 AM

The far left and the far right are the real majority in France. Not sure what the future holds if nothing gets done for the next year or so.

by Anonymousreply 46July 8, 2024 4:30 AM

R41 got a source for that that’s not an unlinked twitter?

by Anonymousreply 47July 8, 2024 10:29 AM

If they hold off Putin getting his claws farther into their govt, they will have done enough for now.

by Anonymousreply 48July 8, 2024 10:50 AM

R48 Yep, the more significant, though underreported, fact about recent elections: will Putin's influence be allowed to win elections and change policies. He really wanted Macron gone, and this loss is a firm rebuke to him and his attempts. Obviously the Trump v Democrats election has Putin v western democracy as an important factor.

by Anonymousreply 49July 8, 2024 3:05 PM

UK here.

I was talking to a French friend (who lives here) today. He had a postal vote for the first round of voting, but flew to Marseille to vote yesterday. He utterly despairs of Macron gambling like this, and is disappointed that the three blocs will be fighting too much to actually get any work done in Parliament. He says he would not be surprised if Marine Le Pen makes another run for the Presidency, despite her saying last time that she would not stand again.

by Anonymousreply 50July 8, 2024 3:26 PM

Of course Le Pen will run again... and the election is in 2027. Given the way the world is, 2027 is an eternity away.

by Anonymousreply 51July 8, 2024 3:32 PM

[quote] If they hold off Putin getting his claws farther into their govt, they will have done enough for now.

The French Left are pro-Putin.

by Anonymousreply 52July 8, 2024 3:41 PM

You can now expect more terrorist attacks and beheadings in France.

by Anonymousreply 53July 8, 2024 3:42 PM

R53 No, but we can expect even more nativist trolling on sites like Datalounge.

by Anonymousreply 54July 8, 2024 3:44 PM

"Un plateau du fromage. Oo la la!"

by Anonymousreply 55July 8, 2024 3:58 PM

What Americans call "the right" in France and other Western European governments bear no relation to the American Republican party. Americans just can't grasp this and think European political parties are the same as American political parties.

by Anonymousreply 56July 8, 2024 4:09 PM

Muslim brotherhood won. Isn't islamo left their subsidiary.

by Anonymousreply 57July 8, 2024 4:19 PM

R35 exactly. The voted French version of Rashida Tlaib.

by Anonymousreply 58July 8, 2024 4:22 PM

National Front is neo-Nazi like Patriot Front is in the US. They are very different from traditional right leaning political parties in Europe.

by Anonymousreply 59July 8, 2024 4:37 PM

Jean-Luc Melenchon announces that a left-wing government in France will recognize the State of Palestine as soon as possible.

by Anonymousreply 60July 8, 2024 4:52 PM

[quote] I'll take Far Left over Far Right any day!

But the Muslims are far-right as well, and they all voted for the far-left.

by Anonymousreply 61July 8, 2024 4:54 PM

[quote] National Front is neo-Nazi like Patriot Front is in the US. They are very different from traditional right leaning political parties in Europe.

The party name is National Rally now. Looking at the Wikipedia article, and just the intro without diving further inthe details, it states:

[quote]It opposes immigration, advocating significant cuts to legal immigration, protection of French identity, and stricter control of illegal immigration. The party advocates a "more balanced" and "independent" French foreign policy, opposing French military intervention in Africa while supporting France leaving NATO's integrated command. It also supports reform of the European Union (EU) and its related organisations as well as economic interventionism, protectionism, and zero tolerance for breaches of law and order.

For whatever reason, the into doesn’t include any neo-Nazi beliefs. Can someone familiar with French politics explain the new-Nazi part? I know there was stuff going on in the past, but talking about the current iteration of the party.

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by Anonymousreply 62July 8, 2024 5:10 PM

DL approves!

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by Anonymousreply 63July 8, 2024 5:21 PM

Well if they’ve changed their name I guess the group founded by Nazis whose platform is preserving the purity of French racial identity couldn’t possibly be neo-Nazi anymore.

PereTerre and all.

by Anonymousreply 64July 8, 2024 5:32 PM

Those fascist cunts just can’t take the hint

by Anonymousreply 65July 8, 2024 5:35 PM

Another example of the media and polling getting it wrong.

by Anonymousreply 66July 8, 2024 5:49 PM

I wonder why that keep$ happening with the poll$, R66?

And the media? It'$ a my$tery.

by Anonymousreply 67July 8, 2024 6:22 PM

Well France is dead.

by Anonymousreply 68July 8, 2024 6:23 PM
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by Anonymousreply 69July 8, 2024 6:29 PM

The image at r69 intrigues me.

by Anonymousreply 70July 8, 2024 6:43 PM

Media and polling got it right and it is based on this polling that

1) political leaders from the left spent most of last week trying to find who should be the next prime minister and that

2) I posted what would happen after Sunday in the thread below at R20. My post is timestamped 7/1/2024, so we knew here how this would eventually turn out: The National Rally never ever had a chance. The only surprise is that Emmanuel Macron's party came in second instead of third. But the National Rally never had a chance to win a majority of the seats.

Sorry R68, France is very much alive. And I would hope that the United States would be inspired by what just happened in Poland, in the UK and in France and follow in our footsteps. As a Frenchman I can tell you that if Trump wins come November it would affect me more than if the RN had won a majority of the seats yesterday, because I see it as the end of the NATO and 80 years of relative peace across Europe. I would like to add that Jean-Luc Mélenchon doesn't have a chance either to be our next prime minister. It will either be a moderate from the so-called socialist party (which is actually social-democrat) or someone from the left of Emmanuel Macron's own party.

Bur for some reason, most media out of the country made it sound like the Rassemblement National had it in the pocket. Now that I've said that, I still feel dirty and need a shower.

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by Anonymousreply 71July 8, 2024 6:44 PM

Sorry R71. I don't like Mosques and burkas ...... you're a muslim country now. The right did get more votes but not seats.

by Anonymousreply 72July 8, 2024 6:51 PM

vive le france

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by Anonymousreply 73July 8, 2024 6:52 PM

and pretty soon we'll have posts regarding France where all the leftist hacks are shocked at the conditions their votes caused. Happens every time.

by Anonymousreply 74July 8, 2024 6:53 PM

Is that flag sticking out of his ass, R70?

by Anonymousreply 75July 8, 2024 7:09 PM

Mit Melenchon clearly does not, R63. I find him troublesome.

by Anonymousreply 76July 8, 2024 7:10 PM

R75 Close, but no penetration.

by Anonymousreply 77July 8, 2024 7:13 PM

So Putin's hackers manipulated the votes to make it look like there's a right wing trend going on... This is only a test.

by Anonymousreply 78July 8, 2024 8:50 PM

Russia is officially depressed about this result.

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by Anonymousreply 79July 8, 2024 9:20 PM

Their unhappiness makes my day, R79.

by Anonymousreply 80July 8, 2024 9:46 PM

They call this left islamo left, because it is close to Muslim brotherhood and radical islam. Muslim immigrants ard their most devoted voters along with bobos, upper middle class hipsters.

They are rabidly anti semitic (silly how Le Pen is called out for not being very Arab friendly, but left is much worse when it comes to Jews).

Last week a Jewish girl have been raped by few young Muslims, who also screamed anti semitic slurs at her. The left tried to relativize this, one of many attacks, by saying: what do they do to kids in Gaza.

by Anonymousreply 81July 8, 2024 10:05 PM

Islamo left

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by Anonymousreply 82July 8, 2024 10:14 PM

The nutjob antisemitic enemy of your nutjob antisemitic enemy isn’t necessarily your friend.

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by Anonymousreply 83July 8, 2024 10:17 PM

The west is obsessed with Putin, but this guys are much more dangerous.

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by Anonymousreply 84July 8, 2024 10:18 PM

Apologies I missed signing my post.

by Anonymousreply 85July 8, 2024 10:18 PM

There are some statistics that Muslim men commit large number of rapes, but the new phenomena is antisemitic rape.

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by Anonymousreply 86July 8, 2024 10:35 PM

Melenchon is an absolute asshole. France really stepped into it with him.

by Anonymousreply 87July 8, 2024 10:40 PM

Failed to accuse Hamas murder and torture, praised Putin for taking Crimea.

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by Anonymousreply 88July 8, 2024 11:10 PM

[quote] Jean-Luc Mélenchon is a disaster for the French left – his response to the attack on Israel proves it

The new British Labour government won't be much better

by Anonymousreply 89July 8, 2024 11:14 PM

I thought Labour got rid of all the anti Semitism. The French far left is a disaster.

by Anonymousreply 90July 8, 2024 11:23 PM

I lived in Paris for five years and loved it. I taught in the public school system. I hate to agree, but the conservatives are unfortunately right in regard to the Muslims there. The current generations refuse to assimilate and the incoming immigrants are even worse. It wouldn’t be bad if they didn’t want to impose their beliefs on everyone else. I don’t pretend to know the solution but turning a blind eye or even encouraging this behavior will be France’s demise,

by Anonymousreply 91July 8, 2024 11:40 PM

[quote] The current generations refuse to assimilate and the incoming immigrants are even worse.

And now their numbers let them become an electoral power. As long predicted France is well along to being absorbed.

by Anonymousreply 92July 8, 2024 11:48 PM

France is fucked if they don't do something about the Muslim situation.

by Anonymousreply 93July 9, 2024 12:11 AM

R70 Here ya go.

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by Anonymousreply 94July 9, 2024 8:43 PM

[quote] PM Gabrial Attal to offer resignation

Macron asks French PM to stay on

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by Anonymousreply 95July 10, 2024 1:01 AM

I'm sure that you will be as shocked as I was to hear that Marine Le Pen is being investigated for fraud, forgery and embezzlement in connection with her 2022 presidential run.

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by Anonymousreply 96July 10, 2024 1:04 AM

R96 Will they be bringing back la guillotine soon?

by Anonymousreply 97July 10, 2024 1:13 AM

I lived in Nice back in the end of the 90's, and it was VERY apparent at that time that France was culturally, politically, economically... STUCK, and it was only the immigrants from the Maghreban that had forward momentum, at least culturally.

I think France is fucked, I think the EU is fucked and I think the US, the vasal puppet master, is fucked.

And this worries me a lot, as a US citizen

by Anonymousreply 98July 10, 2024 1:14 AM

So Biden is the puppet master? And soon Donald Trump may be??

Oy vey.

by Anonymousreply 99July 10, 2024 1:16 AM

It's not about Biden or Trump.

At all.

by Anonymousreply 100July 10, 2024 1:20 AM

[quote]I'm sure that you will be as shocked as I was to hear that Marine Le Pen is being investigated for fraud, forgery and embezzlement in connection with her 2022 presidential run.

That's the new thing, to have the person you defeated locked up so they can't run again.

by Anonymousreply 101July 10, 2024 1:49 AM

Politics à la Russe!

by Anonymousreply 102July 10, 2024 2:03 AM

Russian poet Eduard Limonov was crazy extreme left meeting extreme right son of a bitch, but he said some good words about EU:

"Europeans are so timid they remind me of sick and elderly people," he begins. "And Europe is like one big old people's home. There is so much political correctness and conformity there that you can't open your mouth. It's worse than prison. That's why there is no culture in the west anymore. Just dying screams.

"In Russia, fortunately, the people still have some barbarian spirit. But Europeans and Americans are just dying, sick invalids."

by Anonymousreply 103July 10, 2024 12:24 PM

R101, if you'd actually read the link at R96, you would know that LePen and her party have been investigated for years over campaign malfeasances.

by Anonymousreply 104July 10, 2024 12:36 PM

R103 Onanistic gibberish.

Russia, where gay people are criminals, beaten and killed by those lauded barbarians, right, that's the way to the future.

by Anonymousreply 105July 10, 2024 2:12 PM

Won't someone think of poor, bullied Russia????

by Anonymousreply 106July 10, 2024 2:19 PM

[quote]"In Russia, fortunately, the people still have some barbarian spirit. But Europeans and Americans are just dying, sick invalids."

That "barbarian spirit" has translated to more than 150,000 Russians killed in the war against Ukraine and another 700,000 or so severely wounded.

Forgive me if I'm not envious.

by Anonymousreply 107July 10, 2024 2:38 PM

There's a large # of cannibals in Russia.

Is this "Barbarian Spirit" caused by the cannibalism or is the cannibalism caused by the "Barbarian Spirit"?

by Anonymousreply 108July 10, 2024 5:42 PM

Russians had their share of barbarism with the Mongol Empire. The Mongols were so bloodthirsty that it took 300 years for Russians to get their population back to pre-Mongol levels.

by Anonymousreply 109July 10, 2024 8:27 PM

[quote] What Americans call "the right" in France and other Western European governments bear no relation to the American Republican party.

The European Right murdered six million Jews and caused two World Wars. We know damn well what the European Right is, you dipshit.

by Anonymousreply 110July 10, 2024 8:34 PM

^^Yeah eighty fucking years ago, you dipshit. Let's talk about modern times, babe.

by Anonymousreply 111July 10, 2024 8:41 PM

Germans are deeply ashamed of their racist genocidal past. Unlike Americans, who couldn't give two shits about their own racist genocidal past.

by Anonymousreply 112July 10, 2024 8:44 PM

R111 just embarrassed himself. Classic.

by Anonymousreply 113July 10, 2024 8:51 PM

R112 = same moron who knows absolutely nothing about history.

by Anonymousreply 114July 10, 2024 8:52 PM

Jews now have to get out of France because of all the antisemitism.

by Anonymousreply 115July 10, 2024 8:53 PM

Europe was responsible for the transatlantic slave trade. lol

by Anonymousreply 116July 10, 2024 8:53 PM

But what is Europe in 2024 you idiots? You can't keep dredging up the long-ago past.

by Anonymousreply 117July 10, 2024 8:54 PM

r113/r114 = ignorant asses who have probably never been to Germany.

by Anonymousreply 118July 10, 2024 8:54 PM

“People who forget the past are condemned to repeat it. “

George Santanaya > R117

by Anonymousreply 119July 10, 2024 9:28 PM

More "barbarian spirit" from Russia:

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by Anonymousreply 120July 11, 2024 9:10 PM

I'm sure they were only kidding around, R120. Everyone knows they're such jokers!

by Anonymousreply 121July 12, 2024 4:34 AM
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