Israeli strike kills 7 workers from Jose Andres' World Central Kitchen aid organization

Killing humanitarian aid workers now?

Great job, Israel!

Maybe this?

This is how you lose even neutral people's empathy.

[quote] “Despite coordinating movements with the (Israeli army), the convoy was hit as it was leaving the Deir al-Balah warehouse, where the team had unloaded more than 100 tons of humanitarian food aid brought to Gaza on the maritime route.”

How in the fuck does this even happen?

I'm sure that many DL posters feel that this is what they deserve.

Israel better watch the fuck out with where they're aiming any strikes these days.

People's patience is wearing thin.

I'd no idea 173 civilians working for UNRWA had been killed by airstrike.

I recall many people had begun sliming the agency a month or two ago, claiming it was allied with Hamas (?!), but 173 is simply out of order.

Those poor people were obliterated.

These "strikes" are starting to piss neutral people the fuck off.

I’m really impressed with Iran, this could be the most significant piece of agitprop triangulation in the Middle East since the Bolsheviks revealed the Sykes-Picot agreement.

They want to starve Gazans to death because they want to steal their land. The US has their backs, so why should they care that the international community wants to help the starving people? Just kill them.

[quote]They want to starve Gazans to death because they want to steal their land.

It's not a very good strategy, since we're closer to a two-state solution than we've ever been.

The strike on the aid convoy appears to be a friendly fire incident that Israel are responsible for

The "173 UNRWA staff killed" is as impossible to verify as the "journalists" who were embedded in Hamas.

None of the agencies working in Gaza will admit that Hamas have used the hospitals as their bases and that's why there was a major battle there, when Hamas regrouped. Jeremy Bowen at the BBC argued one of the huge arms discoveries at Shifa could have been used by security guards there.

No doubt there has been a catastrophic loss of civilian life but when you declare war on your neighbour you expect them to retaliate.

What is going on with the settlements?

BBC coverage.

That Australian lady seemed like a sweetheart.

Too bad she's dead now.

Blown to pieces by Israel.

They should not have been there.

[quote] I’m really impressed with Iran, this could be the most significant piece of agitprop triangulation in the Middle East since the Bolsheviks revealed the Sykes-Picot agreement.

Yes how did Iran cunningly trick Israel into doing this? Or was it an Iranian plane and bomb with Israeli markings? Because that has to be the case — this is so UNLIKE Israel.

The Arabs:

HAI U GUYS

I HAS AN IDEA

Israel has a few "European" world championships that they are going to host.

Come on, bitch. We'll see how well you're liked as a part of "Europe."

7 News Australia....

[quote] They should not have been there.

Perhaps their motto is different than yours — “when people are being starved to death, try to help them, even at risk of your own life.”

As opposed to, “when people are being starved to death, victim-blame them, and support and defend the perpetrators.”

What do DL's Jewish Baby Boomers have to say?

Are they going to volunteer for IDF?

R17 no you pea brain, Iran goaded Hamas into committing the terrorist act knowing that Israel would counterattack like this

The goal was to destroy the normalization of relations between Israel and Saudi Arabia that had begun under the Trump regime

Hey R23, why don't you go fight for IDF! You obviously feel very strongly about this.

Put your nose where your mouth is.

Don’t equate Jewish with Zionist. Some of the most articulate critics of Zionism are Jews.

[quote] [R17] no you pea brain, Iran goaded Hamas into committing the terrorist act knowing that Israel would counterattack like this

We’re not talking about 10/7, we’re taking about Israel murdering international workers trying to feed civilians being intentionally starved by Israel.

Such a grotesque thing to do, I could see why you’d try to change the subject instead of defend it, peabrain.

I strongly doubt that this was accidental. We're talking about a country the army of which is aiding civilians who deliberately prevent aid from entering Gaza, while shouting 'death to Arabs!'. Also, we ought to remember how Israel has knowingly massacred most UN workers in Gaza and excused itself by saying that they were Hamas supporters.

Just watch the video below and you'll be horrified.

The Gazans started a war. Shit happens in a war.

R26 This was Iran’s goal, you gut flora. You think Iran gave a shit about those Israeli civilian death? They wanted Netanyahu to do this. They wanted world opinion to turn and Israel and for Arab states to do a U-turn in normalization of Arab Israeli relations.

R28's attitude (which echoes the attitude of Israel) is precisely why people are turning against Israel.

There will come a point when even the US turns its back on them, and they will be standing all alone in the Middle East, surrounded by enemies.

Good luck with that, Israel.

Your day is coming.

WHY THE FUCK are we paying welfare for Israel?

We can't help our own elderly people retire.

We won't help our own youngsters get affordable education and healthcare.

But [bold] we pay for Israel [/bold]

WHY!

And on top of all of that, this MOTHERFUCKER has the gall to criticize us.

[quote] WHY THE FUCK are we paying welfare for Israel?

Clearly, it's so that they can kill innocent civilians and humanitarian aid workers.

Our tax dollars, hard at work.

R33 FUCK ISRAEL.

What is Israel doing for the US?

We, Americans, are propping this piece of shit.

Australian here. I just watched our PM Albanese talking about this on the ABC and it's a pretty big deal here. Australians are growing increasingly unhappy and unaccepting of this situation and want an immediate ceasefire. We support Israel and always have - but not at any cost.

Israelis are also very unhappy and demonstrating in the streets in tens of thousands and growing. They are demanding a ceasefire to get the hostages back and then a change of government - and they want Netanyahu gone. Netanyahu has been an obstacle to peace for so long that it will be interesting to see what new elections bring to Israel. Hopefully some peace and urgent work on setting up a two-state solution so that they can all just live their lives in peace.

[quote] Rear Adm. Daniel Hagari, the top military spokesman, said that officials are reviewing the incident at the highest levels. He says an independent investigation will be launched that “will help us reduce the risk of such an event from occurring again.”

You know, they keep saying the same thing over and over, and yet nothing has changed.

They keep killing civilians.

There comes a point when countries just need to start calling them out as the liars that they are.

[quote] Don’t equate Jewish with Zionist. Some of the most articulate critics of Zionism are Jews.

95% of Jews are Zionist.

Chef Jose Andres is extremely passionate about this non-profit organization that he started.

The people who work for WCK are like his family.

He must be fucking pissed, to have used the word "unforgivable."

R39 but why were they there????

They were clearly pro-Hamas TERRORISTS.

[quote] —The Datalounge Jewish Baby Boomer contingent

I have a feeling that they will be completely silent, as it pertains to this news story.

They dare not touch it with a 10 foot pole, because it's completely indefensible.

R41 They're very eager to send Gen Z off to war for their own interests.

FUCK ISRAEL.

Has President Biden commented yet?

LeT's GiVe MoRe $$$ tO iSrAeL!!!!!!

It is horrific. Apparently, the White House is furious. Netanyahu must step down.

Netanyahu is a fucking terrorist. He’s going to cause the death of thousands more by his fuckery.

Hamas is a fucking terrorist organization. Always has been. Always will be. They murder their own people.

Fuck both of them.

“But doctors also reported treating a steady stream of children, elderly people and others who were clearly not combatants with single bullet wounds to the head or chest.”

“In Gaza City, three-year-old Emad Abu al-Qura was shot outside his home as he went to buy fruit with his cousin, Hadeel, a 20-year-old medical student, who was also killed. The family said they were targeted by an Israeli sniper.”

The aid workers were deliberately killed. The IDF, with its now-signature blend of incompetence and sadism, thought that an “armed man” might be present, so it seemed safest to kill everyone by hitting them with repeated drone strikes.

WCK and Jose Andres are revered in a way that few modern celebrities and aid organizations are, ranking alongside Dolly Parton and her Imagination Library.

Messing with them will push a lot of fence-sitters on this issue on the anti-Israeli side.

If the IDF did this intentionally then it better never leak because that will be the definite end of Bibi and any support his government has with the wider international community.

I hope Israelis are prepared for the international backlash.

Because it's going to come, honey, and it's going to be absolutely brutal.

They didn't get what they deserved. They were a victim of one of the possible consequences they should have been very aware of. I do love so many on Datalounge being much more upset over this than the original attack. I wont go into that because, as I've said, you cannot argue with a gay Islamapologist. They are fucked up in the head. They're like turkeys voting for Thanksgiving.

[quote] World Central Kitchen victims remembered for going ‘extra mile’ to deliver aid

Soon after learning of his friend’s death, Josh Phelps saw the gruesome images of an Israeli attack that World Central Kitchen said killed his friend and six others delivering aid in Gaza.

“It was shocking,” said Phelps, a former WCK colleague of Australian aid worker Lalzawmi Frankcom.

He had just texted Frankcom - known as Zomi - the day before, when photos of the pair delivering food to a Native American reservation in Pine Ridge, S.D., popped up on his phone.

He sent them to her, and she responded with a heart. Hours later, she was dead.

Frankcom, 43, was among seven WCK workers who the nonprofit said were killed in an Israeli strike in Gaza on Monday. The attack on the organization founded by celebrity chef José Andrés drew international rebuke. It has pushed WCK and at least one other group to pause aid operations as famine looms over besieged Gaza and pressure mounts on Israel over the rising Palestinian civilian death toll.

The others killed were a U.S.-Canadian dual national, three U.K. citizens, a Palestinian and a Polish national, according to WCK.

The organization said the team was traveling in the Palestinian enclave in vehicles that included two armored cars branded with the World Central Kitchen logo, and that it had coordinated its movement with the Israeli military.

In an apparent reference to the attack, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Israeli forces “unintentionally hit innocent people” and that Israel would fully investigate the “tragic incident.”

Phelps, who left WCK in 2021, remembered Frankcom as a person who could make lifelong friends in the direst situation. “You knew when Zomi was in the room,” he said. “She loved to laugh, loved to have a good time.”

The two met in 2018 after a volcano eruption in Guatemala, as Frankcom was traveling in Central America and taking classes online after leaving a job at an Australian bank. She began helping to provide food aid with WCK. Her work took her around the world, including Paradise, Calif.; Egypt and Turkey. “She just bonded with every community she worked in,” Phelps said.

The last mission they did together was in Haiti in 2021. “She was riding around delivering food on the back of motorcycles,” Phelps recalled. “Her sense of responsibility to the people we serve and to go the extra mile was really special - and also to keep a great attitude.”

That attitude took her to Gaza. When Phelps messaged on WhatsApp to ask how she was feeling, she wrote back: “I’m getting used to the drones but the booms still make my tummy go funny.”

Her death shook people she had met around the world, Phelps said. “She had a zest for life, a heart for service,” he added. “People will remember her.”

Australian officials condemned the strike and said they had contacted Israeli authorities and called for an investigation. “We expect full accountability for these deaths,” the Australian Foreign Ministry said.

The director of al-Najjar hospital in Gaza, Marwan al-Hams, said the facility received the bodies of the seven workers - six with “Western nationalities” and one Palestinian, whom he identified as Seif Issam Abu Taha.

Yousef Sharef said Abu Taha, 26, was a cousin working with the WCK team in Gaza whose death was a “big loss” to the family and a shock. “He was a friendly, lovely person, and he used to always do good things and to support people who need help,” Sharef said.

British Foreign Secretary David Cameron said the British government was “urgently working” to verify reports that its nationals were killed and would provide support to their families. He described the attack as “deeply distressing” and called on Israel to “provide a full, transparent explanation of what happened.”

Poland’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs confirmed that a Polish national was killed, extending its “deepest condolences to the family of the volunteer who was providing aid to the Palestinian people in the Gaza Strip.” The ministry said it objected to the “disregard for international humanitarian law.”

The mayor of the Polish city of Przemyśl identified the victim as Damian Soból, a 35-year-old aid volunteer who the mayor said was killed in the Israeli strike in Gaza.

“There are no words to describe the feelings of people who knew this amazing young man right now,” wrote Mayor Wojciech Bakun.

Aparna Branz, a former WCK volunteer, said she got to know Soból while volunteering in Poland and Ukraine in 2022, describing him as “always smiling, kind, patient and ready to help anyone anytime.”

“He was one of the bright lights in those horrible months,” Branz said. She also remembered him as a devoted son who was often speaking on the phone with his mother.

The two met again working in the aftermath of last year’s earthquake in Morocco. Branz recalled that Soból was busy getting ready to leave for Rafah at the time, but still, “typical to Damian, he helped me navigate the logistics of transportation, of where to go and where to stay.”

During their work together in the early days of the war in Ukraine, “we didn’t talk about our reason for being there,” she said. “We just wanted to help.”

So let's see.

Israel "accidentally" kills 3 British, 1 Polish, 1 Australian, and 1 American/Canadian?

All from countries who have been staunch allies of Israel.

Well, that's gratitude for you.

It's a war zone. What yall expect? That Instagram, FB, Datalounge and social media would protect these ppl? America needs the buffer that is Israel. Cheap transportation drives the American economy. And that begins with cheap oil, Elon Musk and his flimsy cars not withstanding.

[quote] It's a war zone

And war zones ALWAYS have agreements in place to PROTECT civilians doing humanitarian work in war zones.

So go fuck yourself, cunt.

These Arabs are not good ppl. They are not aligned to our principles as gays. Palestinians hate who we are and would kill us if possible

[quote]And war zones ALWAYS have agreements in place to PROTECT civilians doing humanitarian work in war zones.

Accidents happen in war. In every war. I'm sure such tragic incidents were never perpetrated by the British, Polish, American or Australian armies.

Yes I'm sure snipers 'accidentally' shot all those children. It can happen to anyone!

[quote] These Arabs are not good ppl. They are not aligned to our principles as gays. Palestinians hate who we are and would kill us if possible

That is completely beside the point, and it has nothing to do with what Israel did.

Blood stained passports.

Saif abu Taha, WCK worker.

Netanyahu is crazy, I'm surprised he hasn't tried using a nuke yet.

the united states has. twice.

Fuck it. I've had it.

Time to stop soft-pedaling this shit by calling this "genocide".

Netanyahu and willing members of the IDF are EXTERMINATING the Palestinians.

We don’t really want to get to the truth anymore, as it will be too late to get enough clicks and views. Last week, TikTok arose in moral outrage over pregnant women being raped and murdered by the IDF in front of their families at Al Shifa Hospital. Tears were shed and outrage was voiced before Hamas (!) said it was a fabrication.

If the energy expended on performative outrage were instead directed on getting Hamas to surrender and hostages, many Palestinians could have been spared.

[quote] If the energy expended on performative outrage were instead directed on getting Hamas to surrender and hostages, many Palestinians could have been spared.

Have you spent any energy advocating for Israel to release the thousands of Palestinians it has taken into illegal custody, many of them children?

No, because it wouldn’t change the dynamics except to escalate the situation. You certainly know you are referring to people who have been held and or convicted of crimes, but you choose to describe it as “illegal custody.” Unlike the hostages, including at least one infant, who committed no crimes.

We won’t agree on this. However, if Israel released all of its prisoners, the war would continue. If Hamas and the Palestinians surrendered and gave up the hostages, the war would end.

r67, I condemn the atrocities perpetrated by Hamas. I always have. They should immediately release the hostages.

But, I don't about your vocabulary, but I learned the meaning of the word "disproportionate" a while ago.

And Netanyahu's response exceeds disproportionate.

He's exterminating Palestinians.

R70, you clearly didn’t look into an actual definition of what “disproportionate” would mean in a war. It doesn’t mean Israel should stop when Palestinian deaths equal those from October 7. When the US went into Afghanistan, their objective was to dismantle Al Qaeda not to merely kill 3000 people to atone for 9/11.

I don’t like civilian deaths any more than you support 10/7 atrocities. It would be better if Hamas had not decided that their exposing country to certain warfare was worth it. They did the attack knowing what it would mean for their people. In reality. the ratio of civilian deaths are actually lower compared to other conflicts. Were the hundred thousand Germans who died in two weeks of the Battle of Berlin being exterminated by the Allies?

The Germans had war arsenal. The Germans had troops.

3/4 of Hitler's military was on the Eastern Front.

WWII was conventional warfare.

What is happening in Gaza is not conventional warfare and defies analogy to the Battle of Berlin.

R69 oh baby do I have news for you.

[quote] The majority have never been convicted of a crime, including more than 2,000 of them being held in administrative detention, in which the Israeli military detains a person without charge or trial. Such detention can be renewed indefinitely based on secret information, which the detainee is not allowed to see.

[quote] If Hamas and the Palestinians surrendered and gave up the hostages, the war would end.

And if Israel hadn’t persecuted Palestinians for decades including how they arrested and imprisoned thousands illegally (among many other things they did) then maybe Oct. 7th wouldn’t have happened full stop.

Trump hates Jose Andres. When Trump was renovating his Hotel Trump in Washington, DC, he asked Jose to become his prime restaurant in the hotel. I think Jose had a restaurant in NYC at the time. Jose said okay - and then Trump made those comments about immigrants being rapists, etc.

Jose was appalled and he told Trump he wanted nothing to do with him. (I'm not sure if there was a contract between them but I think there was.) But Jose said no Jose restaurant for you. Their fight went on for a good while but Jose didn't give in. He stood up to the bully. I'm really not sure how it actually ended. I think there was language in the contract that let Jose balk.

Now Jose does have a very successful restaurant in the middle of DC. I haven't eaten there but my son said it's great. I think DC is pretty much his home base now.

He's just about my favorite person on this earth.

[quote]And if Israel hadn’t persecuted Palestinians for decades including how they arrested and imprisoned thousands illegally (among many other things they did) then maybe Oct. 7th wouldn’t have happened full stop.

Except Hamas is a extremist terrorist group dedicated to wiping Israel off the map. They hate Jews. They hate anybody who isn't a religious Islamist nut. That's why October 7th happened.

[quote] Jose Andres: "Israel must stop killing civilians ‘today’"

Israel must stop killing civilians “today”, the celebrity founder of an aid group said, after seven of his employees were killed in an Israeli air strike on Monday.

José Andrés, whose World Central Kitchen organisation has been sending supplies to civilians in Gaza, called on Israel to “start the long journey to peace” and said it should stop using food as a “weapon of war”.

Three British nationals were among the aid workers killed on Monday when an Israeli drone fired missiles at their vehicles, which were marked with the aid group’s logo. Benjamin Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister, said the strike was “unintentional”.

“Israel is better than the way this war is being waged,” Mr Andrés wrote in The New York Times. “It is better than blocking food and medicine to civilians. It is better than killing aid workers who had coordinated their movements with the Israel Defence Forces.”

He continued: “The Israeli government needs to open more land routes for food and medicine today. It needs to stop killing civilians and aid workers today. It needs to start the long journey to peace today.”

Mr Andrés also paid tribute to his former employees as “the best of humanity” and “more than heroes”.

[quote] Jose Andres: "Israel must stop killing civilians ‘today’"

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[quote] Except Hamas is a extremist terrorist group dedicated to wiping Israel off the map.

This is largely because of what Israel has been doing to Palestinians for decades. You look at the numbers of Palestinians held in Israeli jails without charge, look at how many Palestinians have been killed by the IDF in the last 20 years, look at what the settlers have done, look at your average Palestinian persons options for travel or how to trade internationally etc. etc.

[quote]Except Hamas is a extremist terrorist group dedicated to wiping Israel off the map.

[quote]This is largely because of what Israel has been doing to Palestinians for decades.

What's Iran's excuse?

Right, Palestinians aren't even responsible for their own terrorist groups! Israel made them do it!

R79 probably behaviour like this.

R80 that’s not what I’m saying and if you can’t understand composite thoughts then you should go back to education.

But no I don’t believe that your average Palestinian civilian victim of Israeli airstrikes or drones or snipers (mostly women and children) are responsible for Hamas. The IDF certainly seems to be taking it out on the child population of Gaza.

[quote]But no I don’t believe that your average Palestinian civilian victim of Israeli airstrikes or drones or snipers (mostly women and children).

This talking point comes from Hamas. It's not been verified anywhere.

R83 you’re getting into really dark territory denying civilian casualties. Below from February.

[quote] As of 12 February 2024, UN Women reports that at least 28,340 Palestinians were killed in Gaza, and 70 per cent of those killed are said to be women and children. 67,984 Palestinians have been injured

.I'm not saying there are no civilian casualties or that what's going on in Gaza isn't horrific. I do take issue with Hamas talking points. All civilian casualty numbers are released by Hamas. Let's just be honest about that. If you want to take them at their word, more power to you.

[quote] I do take issue with Hamas talking points. All civilian casualty numbers are released by Hamas. Let's just be honest about that. If you want to take them at their word, more power to you.

And who are we supposed to believe? Israel?

Please.

They're the biggest liars on the planet.

So you believe Hamas? Ok...

R85 they’re released by the Palestinian health ministry ≠ Hamas. While they are involved with each other, it is not the same entity, so you’re misrepresenting the situation. Also the PHM has a history of reporting deaths correctly, and enough credible agencies (incl agencies on the ground) have posted these reports as part of their reporting that there is credibility to them. But I get that this reality is hard for pro Israel weirdos like yourself so you pretend it’s fake. Very trumpy of you.

The Palestinian Health Ministry IS run by Hamas. Hamas is the elected government of Gaza and is a authoritarian, brutal organization. Everything in Gaza runs through Hamas. It's like saying Russian's war casualty figures aren't controlled by Putin. The level of ignorance is staggering. I guess R88 is still running with those 500 dead! figures from the Al Shifa hospital bombing, that a: didn't bomb the hospital but a parking lot. b: was a misfired rocket by Palestinian Islamic Jihad and c: didn't kill 500 people.

R89 oh you mean this hospital?

Yes, the one Hamas is operating out of. Don't operate out of hospitals. It's quite easy.

R91 at this point they’ve destroyed or damaged every single medical facility in Gaza. I really do think you people are broken.

[quote][R79] probably behaviour like this.

Iran was dedicated to Israel's destruction decades before this week's consulate attack.

People who are terrorist apologists are a mystery to me, R92. If your enemy operates in a hospital, you are allowed to target that hospital. Should Israel not attack Hamas where they are headquartered? Or maybe you want Hamas to win? Sounds like it.

And behaviour like this is why. It’s a pattern. Symptomatic of Israel’s international relations.

R94 me too. Israel will shoot a bunch of kids and say that they were Hamas fighters and you weirdos lap it up.

I don’t think anyone wins here at this point. Neither side are capable of reaching a solution that is equitable for both parties. Israel are massacring Palestinians at this point and the international community is sitting by watching. A two state solution is the only option going forward and it needs to be taken out of the hands of the IDF as the main force in the area.

[quote] . I do love so many on Datalounge being much more upset over this than the original attack. I wont go into that because, as I've said, you cannot argue with a gay Islamapologist. They are fucked up in the head. They're like turkeys voting for Thanksgiving.

Piss off R52 if you feel that strongly about differing views. Especially when the rest of us suffer your mindless drivel. You won't get blind obedience on DL.

The weirdos are a bunch of Western useful idiots who cape for terrorists and then list off Hamas talking points like they've been programmed by AI.

R96- Gazans have said they don't want a 2 state solution. They want all of Israel. If Palestinians accept Israel isn't going anywhere, then we have a starting point. As of right now Hamas is still popular in Gaza and even more popular in the West Bank.

R98 we can agree to disagree. You pretend that thousands of murdered children aren’t dead and I don’t. It’s easy to see who’s the weirdo.

Israel wants to annex Gaza and the West Bank, they’ve been stealing land in the West Bank for decades. Neither side wants the other there so like I said it’s up to the international community to solve this. Israel cannot be trusted. They break every rule they say they’ll adhere to.

R99, I never said there weren't many children killed in Gaza. You want to believe Hamas casualty figures. I question them. Do you also believe Russian propaganda?

Interesting way of annexing Gaza, by pulling out all Israeli residents in 2005. Your ability to make up facts and then launch attacks at anybody who doesn't agree with them is childish and frankly stupid. You think Israel can't be trust but believes Hamas. Do what you want, but you are beyond incoherent.

[quote] As of right now Hamas is still popular in Gaza and even more popular in the West Bank.

Well gee I wonder why that is? I guess when your neighbor is ruthlessly dropping bombs that kill your entire family, the extremists start looking more attractive. The whole "we thought they were Hamas!" excuse isn't going to work here. It's time the world start holding Israel accountable for once in their lives. This type of evil can no longer be defended. Team Jose Andres!

[quote]Well gee I wonder why that is? I guess when your neighbor is ruthlessly dropping bombs that kill your entire family, the extremists start looking more attractive

Hamas was elected in 2005. But I agree. Palestinians by and large hate Jews and favor terrorism. They support October 7th. If they support extremism and terrorism and the starting of wars, as you say they do, then don't cry and scream when your enemy fights back.

Also, Hamas fires rockets indiscriminately into Israel every day. It's only the existence of the Iron Dome that such rockets don't cause immense damage. I imagine the constant fire and attacks is also why a portion of Israel has moved right and elected Bibi.

But it's always excuses with pro-Hamas people. You made me hit you! You made me rape those women and kill those young concert goers!

Do not travel into a war zone.

He started it!

I did not! She started it!

Like two fucking squabbling brats in the back seat. Let’s pull the car over and throw them BOTH OUT!

[quote]Also the PHM has a history of reporting deaths correctly,

The Palestinian Health Ministry accused Israel of bombing Al-Ahli Hospital, killing hundreds of civilians. It turned out an Islamic Jihad rocket had hit the parking lot, not even hitting the building.

R104, that was something I liked about the Oslo Accords peace process. No more listening to "he started it" litanies. Just work toward peace. Now we're back to Palestinians claiming Israelis stole all their land, with no admission that Jewish immigrants [italic]bought[/italic] lots of land prior to Israel's independence. At this point, I don't care who's whose victim. I want them to quit killing each other. They can have a cold peace like Egypt and Israel. AFAIK, Egyptians do not like Israel or Israelis. However, they quit killing each other.

Killing the World Central Kitchen workers is dreadful. I hope Washington can use it to pressure Netanyahu to quit. I've wanted him gone anyway. Maybe that would look like progress to Gazans. I had hoped Arab leaders would pressure Abbas to resign, but that idea seems to have died out.

[quote] Comedian Bassem Youssef says Israel will face "no accountability" for strike that killed World Central Kitchen workers.

Comedian and television host Bassem Youssef on Wednesday predicted Israel will face "no accountability" for its strike that killed seven World Central Kitchen workers this week.

The comedian, who has family members living in Gaza, highlighted Israel Defense Forces' ongoing bombardment of the enclave and suggested the international community would not hold Israel accountable.

“They are in one apartment, in one building in Rafah, sharing it with 25 other families. And, you know, at any moment we can hear a bomb drop. But it's OK, because Israel will apologize, I'm sure, as they usually do. I mean, like, I was so happy to listen to their sincere apology for killing the people from Central Kitchen,” Youssef told CNN host Christiane Amanpour.

“What's very interesting is the outrage, the global outcry. It's like, oh, how could you do that to Israel?” Youssef said. “We forget James Miller, a British filmmaker that was also killed by Israeli snipers. We forget Tom Hartland, which he was, like, also a British activist who was killed in the head. We forget Shireen Abu Akleh, the American-Palestinian reporter. It's like every time, 'Oh, Hamas did it, oh, we did it, we're so sorry. Let's continue.' It's just, there's no accountability.”

“I say it everywhere I go: If Israel today ended the war, they will be actually praised. It's like, thank you so much for not killing more Palestinians. Maybe they even give a Nobel Peace Prize to [Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin] Netanyahu. This will happen, you know, this will actually happen. Israel will be praised. There will be absolutely no accountability of what they did in Gaza for the past six months. This is what pains me.”

[quote]“I say it everywhere I go: If Israel today ended the war, they will be actually praised. It's like, thank you so much for not killing more Palestinians. Maybe they even give a Nobel Peace Prize to [Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin] Netanyahu. This will happen, you know, this will actually happen. Israel will be praised. There will be absolutely no accountability of what they did in Gaza for the past six months. This is what pains me.”

Yeah, Israel are going to leave over 100 citizens in Gaza, including young women being repeatedly raped.

[quote] including young women being repeatedly raped.

Source? Or are you just…..making it up like the NYT did?

When did this site get flooded with so many conservatives?

Who cares what year they were elected R102? Israel has been stealing land and going back on their word for at least four decades earlier. You can't look at the deaths of those Aid workers and just shrug your shoulders and say"well that's war." It doesn't look good for the semantics of your team. They're either the clumsest nation in the world, or they're intentionally committing war crimes. Either way this can no longer be tolerated and no more weapons should be sent over there.

Including six American hostages. And let’s be honest. Palestinians are educated from birth (with UN dollars) that their purpose in life is martyrdom fighting Israel. There is no significant movement for peace among the Palestinians that parallels the Israeli left. If someone has a plausible idea to get the hostages out and stop constant attacks on Israel, let’s hear it.

[quote]Source? Or are you just…..making it up like the NYT did?

The NYT didn't make that up. Or do you think Hamas, the world's angels, wouldn't rape Israeli women? What is up with rape apology or denial among Hamas supporters? Released Israeli hostages have said they were sexually assaulted. Were they lying too?

The only source questioning the raping of women was the Hamas loving Intercept (Glenn Greenwald's rag) where they said basically, well of course there were rapes but they weren't SYSTEMATIC.

[quote] The NYT didn't make that up.

Yea they did lol. They’ve retracted almost everything in separate articles and the entire basis of the piece was exposed as being really shitty biased fraudulent journalism.

Why are you still arguing with gay islamapologists?

[quote] José Andrés says Israel targeted staff in Gaza 'car by car'

World Central Kitchen (WCK) founder José Andrés has accused Israeli forces in Gaza of targeting his aid workers "systematically, car by car".

Monday's strike which killed seven members of his staff was not a mistake, he said, repeating that Israeli forces had been told of their movements.

WCK workers from Australia, Canada, Poland, the UK and the US were killed as well as their Palestinian colleague.

Israel says the strike was a "grave mistake" and has apologised.

It has also promised an independent investigation.

According to the charity, the aid convoy was hit while leaving the Deir al-Balah warehouse, "where the team had unloaded more than 100 tonnes of humanitarian food aid brought to Gaza on the maritime route".

The convoy was made up of three vehicles, including two that were armoured, which clearly displayed the charity's logo. All three were hit during the strike.

Speaking to Reuters news agency on Wednesday, the Spanish-American celebrity chef said this was not a "bad luck situation where, 'oops,' we dropped the bomb in the wrong place".

In a separate interview with Israel's Channel 12 news, Mr Andrés said "it was really a direct attack on clearly marked vehicles whose movements were known by everybody at the IDF [Israel Defense Forces]".

The bodies of six of the dead WCK workers have since been taken from Gaza into Egypt to be repatriated.

Their Palestinian colleague was buried in his hometown in Rafah, southern Gaza, on Tuesday.

Humanitarian aid to the Gaza Strip is in doubt after WCK - a key provider of aid to the territory - suspended operations.

The UN announced it was pausing movements at night for at least 48 hours to evaluate the security situation.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has described the strike as unintentional.

"It happens in war, we check it to the end, we are in contact with the governments, and we will do everything so that this thing does not happen again," Mr Netanyahu said on Tuesday.

IDF Chief of General Staff Herzi Halevi called the incident a "grave mistake" and said "it shouldn't have happened," blaming the strike on misidentification.

US President Joe Biden has condemned the strike, accusing Israel of not doing enough to protect aid workers.

"The United States has repeatedly urged Israel to deconflict their military operations against Hamas with humanitarian operations, in order to avoid civilian casualties," Mr Biden said.

Three of the killed aid workers were British nationals. A Polish national, an Australian, a Palestinian and a dual US-Canadian citizen were also killed.

UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak spoke to Mr Netanyahu on Tuesday. On the call, he described the situation in Gaza as "increasingly intolerable" and "demanded a thorough and transparent independent investigation" into the killing of the aid workers.

Mr Sunak added that Israel needed to end restrictions on humanitarian aid and protect civilians, according to a Downing Street statement.

In other reaction:

Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albanese said he had "expressed Australia's anger and concern" in a long phone call with Mr Netanyahu, and that he expected a "full and proper explanation for how this has occurred"

Polish Foreign Minister Radoslaw Sikorski said he had demanded an independent investigation from Israel Katz, his Israeli counterpart

Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said "full accountability" was needed, adding that it was "absolutely unacceptable for aid workers to be killed" by the IDF

Four days ago, WCK said that it had distributed 42 million meals in the Gaza Strip - dispatching more than 1,700 food trucks and also sending close to 435,000 meals by sea.

According to Cogat, the Israeli defence ministry body in charge of civilian policy in the Occupied Palestinian Territories, WCK is responsible for 60% of the non-governmental aid getting into the territory.

A second charity, the American Near East Refugee Aid (Anera), which was working closely with WCK, told the BBC it was also freezing its operations in Gaza.

More than 196 aid workers have been killed in Gaza since October, according to the US-funded Aid Worker Security Database, which records major incidents of violence against aid personnel. Not all have been killed in the line of duty.

Much of the Gaza Strip has been devastated during the Israeli military operations that began after Hamas gunmen attacked southern Israel on 7 October, killing about 1,200 people and seizing 253 hostages.

About 130 of the hostages remain in captivity, at least 34 of whom are presumed dead.

More than 32,916 people have been killed in Gaza since then, the Hamas-run health ministry says.

James Kirby, 47 (UK)

James Henderson, 33 (UK)

John Chapman, 57 (UK)

Jacob Flickinger, 33 (USA/Canada)

Damian Sobol, 35 (Poland)

Zomi Frankcom, 43 (Australia)

Saifeddin Abutaha, 26 (Palestine)

[quote] Israeli explanation for aid workers deaths 'not good enough', Australia PM says

SYDNEY (Reuters) - Israel's explanation for the deaths from an air strike in Gaza of seven aid workers, including Australian woman Zomi Frankcom, was "not good enough", Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albanese said on Thursday.

Israel said on Tuesday it mistakenly killed workers of charity World Central Kitchen, drawing widespread condemnation from the United States and several allies. The dead included citizens of Australia, Britain and Poland as well as Palestinians and a dual citizen of the U.S. and Canada.

"We need to have accountability for how it has occurred, and what is not good enough is the statements that have been made, including that this is just a product of war," Albanese said during a press conference in Sydney.

Albanese seemed to be referring to comments from Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in a video message on Tuesday in which he said that "this happens in war" as the Israeli military promised an independent investigation.

Celebrity chef Jose Andres, the founder of World Central Kitchen, told Reuters on Wednesday that the Israeli attack had targeted his workers "systematically, car by car." He said the World Central Kitchen workers in Gaza had clear communication with the military, which knew their movements.

Albanese said Frankcom was travelling in a vehicle clearly identified as an aid vehicle and it should not have been at risk. He demanded full accountability on a call with Netanyahu on Wednesday.

"They have committed to a full and proper investigation. I want that to be transparent and I want those findings to be made public so that we find out how exactly this can occur," he said.

Collateral damage has never happened before in a war and so must be investigated.

It's about time that the tide turns against Israel.

The world cannot let this genocide of innocent civilians and the murder of humanitarian aid workers continue.

Fuck you R119. Tell that to the families of those seven Aid workers. You have no soul.

[quote] Three destroyed cars over two miles: What photos tell us about the attack on World Central Kitchen workers

The airstrike on a World Central Kitchen convoy in the Gaza Strip on Monday killing seven team members has prompted a slew of questions about the Israeli military's practices in the war.

While Israeli officials have acknowledged the bombings — Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said the country’s forces had “unintentionally hit innocent people” — they have released few details about the incident.

“It happens in war, we check it to the end, we are in contact with the governments, and we will do everything so that this thing does not happen again,” he said.

In an effort to better understand what exactly happened, NBC News has geolocated the three damaged aid vehicles abandoned along a 1.55-mile stretch of coastal highway in Gaza, using images posted by international photo agencies and cross-referencing them with satellite imagery.

In a statement, WCK said that the convoy that was hit was made up of three vehicles, two of which were armored and one of which had a softback. They were traveling south along Al-Rashid Road near WCK’s headquarters in Deir al-Balah, a Palestinian city in the central Gaza Strip. The coastal road was earmarked as an accessible road for humanitarian aid by the United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs in March.

The northernmost vehicle, which lies just south of the Port of Deir al-Balah, appears to have suffered fire damage. The hood, trunk and doors are open and there are visible burn marks on the ground. A photo shows fire damage inside the vehicle, with charred World Central Kitchen stickers strewn on the floor and across the seats.

The second vehicle, roughly half a mile farther south along Al-Rashid Road, bears a large entry hole next to large WCK branding plastered on the roof. A sticker on the windshield says No. 1, along with another sticker bearing the logo of the aid agency. Orange, high-visibility vests can be seen inside the vehicle. Metal from the roof is pushed inward, jutting down toward the back seats. Blood is matted into the white paintwork and the dark upholstery.

In contrast to the first two vehicles, which were relatively close to each other, a third vehicle was photographed over a mile south of them. This vehicle, smaller than the first two, was the only one off the road, on a patch of land near some homes and tents. Leaning into a ditch, it is missing its roof and windshield and appears to have suffered more damage than the first two. Panels are crumpled or missing, with what appear to be blood and dirt staining the metal frame of the vehicle and the interior seating. The hood is covered with small World Central Kitchen stickers.

The members of the U.S.-based nonprofit group, founded by celebrity chef José Andrés, were leaving a warehouse where the team had unloaded more than 100 tons of humanitarian food aid that the charity had brought to Gaza by sea earlier in the day. The charity said last week that it has served 42 million meals over 175 days in Gaza.

[quote] These Arabs are not good ppl.

Oh, dear.

The people continually calling this a genocide are mentally ill.

^ not as mentally ill as the psychos like you defending Israel’s increasingly barbaric and disgusting actions

And not just mentally. Functionally retarded.

You sound hysterical, R125.

[quote] Drone pilots had the means to swerve the bombs away, but chose not to

It was not a single rogue missile that killed seven aid workers on the coast road in central Gaza between 10 and 11pm on Monday night but three precisely targeted missiles.

According to unnamed Israeli security sources who briefed the local media, they were dropped in succession from a Hermes 450 drone with sophisticated night sights and deliberately guided down on to the three clearly marked humanitarian vehicles travelling below.

Even though the drone pilots would have had both the authority and technical means to swerve the bombs away until the very last moment, they chose not to.

On the ground it was carnage. As the first vehicle was hit, several aid workers reportedly scrambled from it and into the other cars, before it was reduced to a burnt-out shell.

An emergency call was put in to the Israeli authorities, who had cleared the mission ahead of time, but to no avail.

As the two remaining vehicles continued their journey south on the Al Rashid Road, one was hit by a bomb that passed through the humanitarian badge on its roof.

The third vehicle got another kilometre and a half before it, too, was picked off. All that remained of it at first light on Tuesday morning was a twisted, blackened hulk of metal.

Gruesome pictures of the corpses of the seven victims – not all of them yet formally identified – started circulating on social media soon after, some torn beyond recognition.

Pictures of three blood-stained passports, one British, one Polish and one Australian, were also shared widely across the internet.

The Israel Defence Forces (IDF) claimed on Tuesday in off-record briefings to the Israeli press that it had been targeting an “armed” Hamas operative.

A military lawyer, an intelligence officer and a senior commander would have to approve the strike, as per IDF standard drone operating protocol.

Yet even in the unlikely event that the extra-judicial killing of seven aid workers could be justified because of the presence of a single terror suspect, it later transpired he was not even travelling in the convoy.

“According to the defence sources, that armed man did not leave the warehouse,” reported the Israeli newspaper Haaretz. “The cars travelled along a route preapproved and coordinated with the IDF.”

The attack on aid workers could not have come at a more sensitive time for Israel, whose six-month assault on Gaza has claimed more than 32,000 Palestinian lives, according to Hamas, and sparked a devastating humanitarian disaster.

In addition to civilians, some 196 aid workers have been killed in Gaza since the war began on Oct 7 – more than in any other conflict, according to Antony Blinken, the US secretary of state.

On Thursday, the International Court of Justice (ICJ) in the Hague said “famine is setting in” among Gaza’s 2.3 million population and ordered Israel to ensure “the unhindered provision at scale” of aid and humanitarian assistance.

The ICJ took action as part of its investigation into allegations, vehemently disputed, that Israel is committing genocide in Gaza with its response to Hamas’s Oct 7 attack.

That the IDF should hit World Central Kitchen (WCK), one of the few humanitarian groups not overtly regarded with suspicion by Israel, is also a shock.

The group, which has operated in over 20 countries across the world, is independent of the United Nations and is seen as one of the few viable alternatives to the United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA), which Israel continues to assert has been irrevocably compromised by Hamas.

WCK operates 68 kitchens in Gaza and has sent in more than 1,700 trucks loaded with food since the war began six months ago.

It has gained a reputation for boldness, becoming the first group to deliver aid to Gaza by sea in nearly two decades by constructing a jetty out of rubble.

You sound depraved and sociopathic, r127

Honey, j I know the definition of genocide and know it doesn't apply to Gaza. That actually makes me rational. I'm sure you are also this upset about what's happening in Sudan, R129?

You really think you're cute, don't you?

[quote]Honey, j I know the definition of genocide and know it doesn't apply to Gaza. That actually makes me rational.

Scholars who have devoted their professional lives to studying genocide worldwide agree this is a genocide. What are *your* credentials? What criteria do you apply?

[quote] Diplomatic crisis erupts between Poland and Israel following killing of Polish aid worker in Gaza

WARSAW, Poland (AP) — A new diplomatic crisis between Poland and Israel has erupted following the death of a Polish aid worker in Gaza, with the Polish president on Thursday denouncing a comment by the Israeli ambassador as “outrageous” and the Foreign Ministry in Warsaw saying it was summoning him for a meeting.

A 35-year-old Polish man was among seven people who were killed while delivering food to besieged Palestinians with the charity World Central Kitchen. Israel has called the incident a “mistake" that followed a misidentification. The charity said its vehicles were clearly marked.

Amid shock in Poland over the death of the charity worker, Israel's ambassador to Poland, Yacov Livne, pushed back at what he said were attempts by the “extreme right and left in Poland” to accuse Israel of "intentional murder in the attack."

He said on social media Tuesday that “anti-Semites will always remain anti-Semites, and Israel will remain a democratic Jewish state that fights for its right to exist. Also for the good of the entire Western world.”

Polish President Andrzej Duda on Thursday called the comment “outrageous” and described the ambassador as “the biggest problem for the state of Israel in relations with Poland.”

Duda said authorities in Israel have spoken about the tragedy “in a very subdued way," but added, "Unfortunately, their ambassador to Poland is not able to maintain such delicacy and sensitivity, which is unacceptable.”

Prime Minister Donald Tusk, while a political opponent of Duda's, voiced a similar position.

He said Thursday that the comment had offended Poles, and said that the ambassador should apologize.

The deputy foreign minister was quoted in the Polish media as saying that Livne was summoned to a meeting on Friday morning.

A day earlier, Tusk published a comment on social media addressing Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Livne saying that “the vast majority of Poles showed full solidarity with Israel after the Hamas attack. Today you are putting this solidarity to a really hard test. The tragic attack on volunteers and your reaction arouse understandable anger.”

Duda on Thursday also called for Israel to pay "appropriate compensation" to the family of the aid worker, Damian Soból.

Soból had been on an aid mission to Gaza for the past six months following work in Ukraine, Morocco and Turkey.

It hasn't been labeled a genocide. Provide links to these scholars., R132.

This is awful. The situation is so volatile there that horrible things like this will make it even worse. So many people suffering.

[quote] Amid shock in Poland over the death of the charity worker, Israel's ambassador to Poland, Yacov Livne, pushed back at what he said were attempts by the “extreme right and left in Poland” to accuse Israel of "intentional murder in the attack." He said on social media Tuesday that “anti-Semites will always remain anti-Semites, and Israel will remain a democratic Jewish state that fights for its right to exist. Also for the good of the entire Western world.”

So very true. The whole incident plays into the hands of the Jew-haters, who will milk it as much as they can to try to turn people against Israel.

[quote] American Father Killed in Israeli Strike Was About to Leave Gaza

The American-Canadian aid worker who was killed in an Israeli airstrike in Gaza this week was just days away from crossing the border into Egypt to “reassess” the safety risks in the enclave, his father told The Daily Beast.

Jacob Flickinger, 33, was one of seven aid workers for the World Central Kitchen (WCK) non-profit who were killed in Gaza on Monday. The group was delivering aid in Deir al-Balah when a drone-fired missile struck their vehicle, according to the NGO group, in an incident that the Israeli government has described as a “grave mistake.”

Others killed in the strike include Australian citizen Laizawmi “Zomi” Frankcom, Polish national Damian Soból, and Saifeddin Issam Ayad Abutah, their Palestinian driver. Two British workers, James “Jim” Henderson and James Kirby, were also killed in the incident.

In his first media comments, John Flickinger—Jacob’s father—revealed that the aid worker was due to go to Cairo by the end of the week to “reassess what their needs were and how they’re going to proceed.”

“The situation was changing daily on the ground with Israel threatening to attack Rafah,” John told The Daily Beast, referring to the precarious situation on the ground. “That was the last text from him, that he’s going to reassess at the end of the week in Cairo.”

Jacob—who had previously served in Afghanistan with the Canadian military, according to his father—was based in Costa Rica with his partner Sandy and their 1-year-old baby before leaving for Gaza. Describing the aid worker as “a loving husband and new father,” John said that his son had been working various gigs as a personal trainer, coach, and wilderness guide to “feed his family” before his death.

Becoming a father had “changed Jacob in many ways,” John said. “He became very, very focused on raising his son… and they moved to Costa Rica to start a new, kind of a new life there and kind of build a life in a nice tropical country,” he said, adding that Jacob was “the best friend anyone could ever have.”

“But he loved to work with the World Central Kitchen. He believed in their mission. And when the opportunity came to Gaza, he was hesitant, but the need was so great,” John said, adding that he had warned him the situation in Gaza would be different from his time in Afghanistan.

Jacob’s family and friends have set up a GoFundMe to support his wife and son “to help his family reestablish themselves after his tragic death.”

“As the sole financial provider, Jacob’s family will use these funds to sustain themselves temporarily, setting up a trust for his baby boy, and helping with any flights and funeral arrangements,” the fundraiser description says.

Unchecked bloodlust always leads to this kind of outcome. Also, I couldn’t help but look at R130’s post history, out of morbid curiosity. It’s like watching a plane head straight towards a mountain!

This isn't the only instance of the IDF being undisciplined and trigger-happy way. The soldiers who killed the three unarmed Israeli hostages defied a direct order of their own commender not to shoot. And it turns out that it is regular practice for the field commanders to establish "kill zones" in Gaza; any Palestinian man who wanders into one is killed and posthumously declared counted as a member of Hamas. The IDF cannot invade Rafah. No matter what it was in the past, the IDF now has horrible judgment.

Hamas, on October 7, perpetrated a murderous terror attack, where even Israelis who were manifestly non-violent, including children and the elderly, were deliberately targeted. It's likely that the success of the operation surprised the militants themselves, who then attempted to cause maximum harm based on the accessibility and vulnerability of their victims.

I have closely studied virtually all the publicly available images (videos and photographs) of the murders and their aftermath. Besides the ruthlessness and brutality of the Hamas perpetrators, I saw that they also attacked guest workers from Thailand, Nepal, and the Philippines, who were neither Jewish nor Israeli, but who may have been regarded as supporters or enablers of zionism by accepting employment in Israel. Hamas inadvertently also killed dozens of Arab Israelis and Bedouins, making the onslaught seem more like a terrorist attack, where the perpetrators do not necessarily distinguish between the various ethnic or population groups.

Are you familiar with the term "subaltern genocide"? It refers to these types of massacres, including anti-white violence in Southern Africa, massacres of 'pied noirs' in colonial Algeria, and the Bersiap period in Indonesia. In all these cases, violence inflicted by the weaker party sparked widespread feelings of humiliation, fear, and anger among the stronger party--an offense that triggered a huge appetite for revenge.

For most scholars researching mass violence, it is also clear that the Israeli response in this war is indisputably counter-genocidal in terms of the scope and dynamism of the violence. Even if we leave the quantitative dimension of the growing death count out of consideration, an analysis of the qualitative elements of the violence indicates a complex, deliberate process of destruction. For one, the IDF has bombed Gaza, demolished entire cities, communities, and families, occupied the Strip with relative ease, has killed more than 25,000 people to date (including 70% women and children), injured 70,000, and left 1.9 million without a home. By way of comparison: the entire Turkish-Kurdish conflict claimed a total of 40,000 civilian lives, the war in Ukraine 11,000, the Srebenica massacre 8,000 civilians, while 4,000 civilians were killed during the Troubles in Northern Ireland.

Second, the attacks on hospitals, schools, journalists, universities, and other civilian infrastructures can only be interpreted as an attempt to render Gaza unliveable in the future. Third, Israel's use of 'unconventional' weapons such as white phosphorus has no military purpose whatsoever; it only serves to kill and terrorize civilians. Fourth, the indiscriminate arrests of Palestinian men, ranging from teenagers to senior citizens, seem to be part of the global war on terror: people who are even just suspected of maintaining ties to terrorist organizations are locked up with no due process, because the Geneva Conventions are deemed not to apply.

Fifth, targeted attacks on cultural heritage sites, including local archives in Gaza, public and university libraries, bookstores, collections of manuscripts, ancient mosques, cemeteries, temples, bathhouses, museums, convents, churches, castles, graves, and numerous archeological sites are eliminating Palestinian cultural heritage. Sixth, major world powers have helped sustain the asymmetrical power structures in the region, thereby giving the perpetrators immunity and frustrating the victims. Just like Russia protected the Syrian dictator Bashar Al-Assad and China protected the Sudanese dictator Omar al-Bashir during their massacres, Israel continues to receive virtually unconditional support from, mainly, the United States. Many American and European policymakers have shown to be indifferent to the lives of Palestinian civilians, which only encourages the perpetrators. The convergence of all these circumstances and forms of violence is typical of genocide.

Three British citizens were among the murdered aid workers? Oops.

The aid workers were helping terrorists (aka Palestinians). They knew the risks.

Of course civilians are dying and the infrastructure is destroyed. Using Western and Muslim humanitarian aid, Hamas built hundreds of miles of tunnels under civilians. They do not wear uniforms. Civilians kept hostages and prevented them from escaping. Hamas and other militants kill citizens with misfired rockets and intentional shooting. And they don’t really care because Israel gets blamed for it all.

[quote] The aid workers were helping terrorists (aka Palestinians).

It looks like the Western groups that have been aiding and abetting Israel’s enemies are suspending their operations.

Netanyahu has propped up Hamas for years, contributing to the tunnel infrastructure and October 7 atrocities. He was determined to provoke the attack and use it as an excuse to exterminate the Palestinians and take their land. Why are you surprised that Israel is being blamed? You are shouting into the void, R143.

R145, to be polite, you are a total idiot. You are taking little bits of stories and spinning them into a narrative that is only supported by your imagination. Except for a few crazies, Israelis do not want Gazan land. Which is why they gave it up over a decade ago demanding zero concessions from Gaza.

Netanyahu was trying to support Gaza’s governance, not war readiness. It was foolish, because the Gazans hate Israel more than they value their own lives and well being. And provoke the attack? By taking in more Palestinian workers then ever? Netanyahu is hardly a dove, but your mustache-twirling characterization could use some evidence. It’s absurd to think that Netanyahu would welcome October 7.

[quote] Netanyahu was trying to support Gaza’s governance

Excuse me? Are you having a stroke?

[quote]Netanyahu is hardly a dove, but your mustache-twirling characterization could use some evidence

If he had a mustache, he’s definitely be twirling it. He’s perfected the smirk, too:

Maybe other countries would like to put up their soldiers to be on the front line against terrorism in Gaza and let the Israelis take a break. No, that just want to whine about it and pretend they could better, while Israel has to fight alone for the West.

No stroke, r147. I just read the article, which provides a lot of detail.

You sound like a stereotypical Jewish mother, R149.

[quote] Stephen Colbert Blasts Benjamin Netanyahu for Gaza Attack on World Central Kitchen Workers: ‘You Are Responsible’

In an unusual moment for late-night, Stephen Colbert spent his post-monologue segment dedicated to talking about the Israeli army drone attack that killed seven members of Chef José Andrés’ World Central Kitchen and sharing critique for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Despite the difficult subject matter, Colbert still managed to find moments of humor while taking on the issue.

Colbert began the segment by explaining that it’s his show, and they “talk about whatever we want. You know, my name’s on the building, nobody asks questions.” However, he noted they have a rule that meant getting into a tough subject area. “One of our self-imposed mandates is that, if we can, we talk about what everybody’s talking about. And today, what everybody’s talking about is something that’s pretty hard to talk about, and that’s Israel and Gaza.”

The late-night host laid out the background of Hamas’ attack on Israel on Oct. 7 and “the horrible inhuman cost of this conflict.” He noted that he was sure there were disagreements in the Ed Sullivan Theater itself about the war and the best path for Israelis and Palestinians to “achieve a peaceful and prosperous future.”

However, he added, “But I hope there is one thing we can all agree on: human beings should have food and water,” to cheers and applause from the crowd.

Colbert turned to the specific news of the day, naming the workers killed in a drone airstrike by the Israeli army and asking how this happened.

“Despite the fact that World Central Kitchen coordinated their movements with the Israeli military, and the team was leaving a warehouse in central Gaza after unloading shipments of food, they were hit by multiple precision Israeli drone strikes,” Colbert explained, citing news reports from CBS News, NPR and the Washington Post. “They were riding in three vehicles, including two armored cars carrying the World Central Kitchen logo on the roof.”

Colbert noted that Netanyahu had “claimed it was a mistake, but he wasn’t exactly apologetic.” He followed that with a clip of Netanyahu calling what happened “tragic” and adding that innocent people being unintentionally killed is something that “happens in wartime.” Colbert disagreed with the justification.

“Nothing just happens,” Colbert said. “You are responsible. If your answer is, ‘This happens in war,’ then maybe, consider ending the war.” The audience cheered for the notion.

The entertainer explained that the thousands of innocent people who have been killed since the war in Gaza began include more than 200 aid workers. Colbert then turned to what World Central Kitchen means to him personally.

“Many of you know, the World Central Kitchen is near and dear to my heart. It was founded by our friend Chef José Andrés to bring food to hungry people after natural disasters and in war zones,” Colbert expounded.

He then turned to Andrés’ guest essay in the New York Times released Wednesday in the wake of these deaths, titled “Let People Eat.” Colbert quoted the piece, which noted that the charitable organization was founded “on the simple belief that food is a universal human right. It is not conditional on being good or bad, rich or poor, left or right. We do not ask what religion you belong to. We just ask how many meals you need.”

The organization has delivered 43 million meals in Gaza during the conflict and 1.75 million in Israel, Colbert noted, citing a Spectrum News report. At which point, Colbert reached his first punchline of the segment.

“They get in there with the food, and they do the job. They’re like Seal Team Doordash,” Colbert quipped, before tagging that with, “Oh, you better tip.”

Colbert went on to note that World Central Kitchen has suspended its operations in Gaza following the airstrike, threatening to heighten the levels of hunger and malnutrition in Gaza to a level one U.S. agency called “unprecedented in modern history,” according to a Rolling Stone report.

The late-night host’s tone turned more hopeful as he went on to share Andrés’ call for Israel to open up more land routes for humanitarian aid, quoting from the essay, “We know Israelis. Israelis, in their heart of hearts, know that food is not a weapon of war.”

“That’s right. Food is not a weapon,” Colbert said, “except, of course, for Taco Bell’s big beefy five-layer burrito.”

The surprise turn into another joke included a graphic of the dubious food item, to which Colbert added a play on the quick Mexican restaurant’s tag line: “Live más… for now.”

Colbert summed up on the situation, noting that the organization is “just trying to do good.” He added, “I mean, they literally made a documentary about WCK called ‘We Feed People.’ The only way that could be an evil organization would be if that sentence ended with, ‘… To People!'” Colbert shared a mocked-up graphic of the poster for the film with the tweaked title in a bloody horror film font.

The host pointed out that Israel isn’t the only side that has targeted the group’s aid workers. “But instead of being welcomed, they have been attacked by the IDF, and Hamas has hauled members of their team in for interrogation,” Colbert said.

Colbert concluded the segment by making an appeal to the audience for donations to the group. “So whatever you think should happen in Israel and Gaza, I hope we can all agree that people should be allowed to eat. And if you would like to make a donation that would go toward the peaceful nonpartisan enterprise of allowing humans to have their most basic needs met, please think about donating to World Central Kitchen.”

[quote] food is not a weapon of war

Siege warfare has been utilized for thousands of years and blocking access to food has certainly been part of that.

NBC: The Israeli military has fired two officers and said that a probe into the strikes that killed seven aid workers found serious errors and violations of protocol that led its forces to repeatedly hit a convoy the IDF says its forces believed contained Hamas gunmen not World Central Kitchen team members.

But DL told me that the Israel is the victim

No, r156, DL told you that you are a simpleton. No one has justified this strike.

R157 = Another "poor Israel" nimrod

R157 So you are justifying all the other part of the massacre carried out by Israelis, but just not this one, cause poor foreigners died?

Oh, of course that’s what I am doing, r159. How could you be fooled?

R155 Good. Finally, the IDF bumpkins are learning about optics. They’ve been terribly clumsy about it in the past because they came into power like the Beverly Hillbillies came into money. There’s a learning curve.

[quote] The Israeli military has fired two officers and said that a probe into the strikes that killed seven aid workers found serious errors and violations of protocol that led its forces to repeatedly hit a convoy the IDF says its forces believed contained Hamas gunmen not World Central Kitchen team members.

Unfortunately, that won't bring back the WCK workers who were killed.

I'm glad that Congress members are finally waking up and speaking out.

Both Elizabeth Warren and Nancy Pelosi are urging cutting off American weapons supplies to Israel.

It's about time.

Even that fat narcissistic cunt Dump is very unhappy and critical of the way Israel is deliberately targeting civilians and destroying Gaza's infrastructure:

[italic]“Israel is absolutely losing the PR war,” criticizing the images being played around the world showing massive destruction of Gaza. “You’ve got to get it over with, and you have to get back to normalcy. And I’m not sure that I’m loving the way they’re doing it, because you’ve got to have victory,” Trump said, without directly answering whether he was “100 percent with Israel.” In an interview with Israel Hayom last week, he said Israel made a “very big mistake” with the bombings in Gaza. “Israel has to get better with the promotional and with the public relations because right now they’re in ruin,” Trump added. “They’re being hurt very badly, I think, in a public relations sense.”[/italic]

If there’s a ceasefire, you know Dump will take 100% credit for it.