BREAKING: Sen Lieberman DEAD TO me!

Another nail in the coffin (no pun intended) for No Parties?

Good riddance!

Fucking traitor to Democrats.

He ruined Al Gore's chances of becoming President.

Then he supported Republicans after that.

FUCK HIM!

We know.

I saw him recently interviewed about No Labels. He was adamant that he didn’t want to be behind anything to do with helping Trump get elected. So he did have the right priorities.

Who's going to replace him?

r3 Gurl, you did not just link to a later thread.

R3, this thread was first.

He's dead. Good.

Have fun roasting in HELL, Lieberman!

He's the reason there's no public option under ACA, and he encouraged Sinema and Manchin to obstruct Biden as much as possible.

Satan called him home. He needed another cunt.

Why the fuck Al Gore chose that asshole, I’ll never know.

This motherfucker had so much to answer for, and what a self-righteous prick.

So will we get wall-to-wall media coverage for the next week of the funeral? It'll be like the Queen dying all over again!

Same age as Biden. This is actually the perfect overture for Biden to drop out. On Sunday. Between 8 and 10 pm. As was always planned.

Dead from complications due to a recent fall.

Hope he had a nice trip.

He ran out of Jomentum.

He's been dead to me since 2000.

He fell. Allegedly. Wouldn’t surprise me if he was pushed.

Maybe he slipped on a roll of quarters, like Thelma Harper.

[quote]So will we get wall-to-wall media coverage for the next week of the funeral?

The funeral is Friday, so no.

[quote] Why the fuck Al Gore chose that asshole, I’ll never know.

You can thank Bill Clinton's peccadillos for that.

A journalist once spotted him in a supermarket. She said it was remarkable how people went out of their way to avoid him. He practically had a whole checkout lane to himself.

Just too damn pretentious and pedantic. His primary job was to waive the Israeli flag in the Senate.

Interestingly enough, if Gore had chosen Jean Shaheen as his running mate, she likely would have carried her tiny home state of New Hampshire and he would have won the election.

Lieberman was selected for one reason: Florida.

^ and he fucking lost that

Lieberman was a supporter of abortion rights and of the rights of gays and lesbians to adopt children, to be protected with hate crime legislation, and to serve openly in the military.

Other than his misguided support for the war in Iraq (which included most of our spineless politicians in power back then), why do you all hate him so much?

As a (rare) Democratic critic of Clinton, Gore added Lieberman to the ticket because of polling showing Clinton's deep PERSONAL - as opposed to political - unpopularity.

Unfortunately Lieberman was politically unpopular.

I suspect it's primarily his endorsement of John McCain over Obama in 2008, R26.

R26 Yes, but only because someone presciently managed to create an extremely confusing ballot in a county with thousands of Grandma Yettas.

This would have not happened in New Hampshire, as Jean Shaheen was the goddamn governor.

Who was the governor of the state where this happened? 🤔

Like Clinton in '16 whose vote was depressed because of Comey's last-minute announcement, Bush's vote in '00 was depressed by the last-minute news of his long-ago drunk driving arrest.

McCain and Lieberman were Senate buds. McCain expressed regret for picking Palin over Lieberman as his running mate in 2008, which would have been very odd considering their party differences.

That's funny, just this afternoon I was fondly remembering my vote for Weicker in 1988. Maybe I jinxed him.

Yeah, R32, it was made clear to McCain that there would've been an uprising at the GOP convention if he picked Lieberman.

He was a bitter, contrarian buttinsky who seemed to enjoy fucking with the Dems. Good riddance he’s gone.

[quote]Same age as Biden.

Except that Lieberman has always been 82.

Does anyone else remember Brad Garrett presenting at the Emmys (??) in 2000 when he drew attention to a beautiful young blonde on stage with him by saying something to the effect of, "You all know Hadassah Lieberman"?

R26, his full-on support of McCain/Palin in 2008 basically canceled out his support for gay rights, abortion rights, etc. He decided that the open-ended "war against terrorism" was so important that all those rights took a back seat, the far right agenda was worth it, and Democrats could go screw themselves because they weren't hawkish enough. Part of that was his embitteredness at being beaten in the 2006 primary.

Lieberman campaigned AGAINST Obama and Biden. He campaigned for Sarah fucking Palin. He also campaigned against Obamacare. The No Labels thing is his personal battering ram for the Biden Campaign

He was a permanent war-monger.

Any stories about Hadassah? I've heard some people call her a cunt, but there were no specifics. So if you bitches have the tea, spill it!

Dead!

If my Sheridan were here, he’d be appalled.

Regarding his fall, did he first flip, then flop?

He was doing poppers in his pantry. Tripped over a jar of pickles. Poor thing. Heard he was a nice guy from both parties.

He endorsed both Hillary & Biden.

Was this on his iPod?

Connecticut trash!

We had sufficient.

I hope he didn’t call Settlement Sam R20.

He was useless to everyone but Republicans

We trash on Lieberman for supporting McCain, yet we love Nicolle Wallace, ... who also supported McCain.

Don’t forget that he helped yank the Public Option out of Obamacare, too. Asshole.

We trash on Lieberman for being a pompous moral scold who thought Bill Clinton getting a blow job was just the height of moral depravity when we needed an actual fighter against the shitty and ridiculous Republican Party of Newt Gingrich and Rush Limbaugh.

We trash on Lieberman for not stepping aside and letting a real Democrat win the Senate seat in Connecticut after losing the primary.

We trash on Lieberman for being another whore for the rich when we needed somebody to support actual health care reform.

We trash on Lieberman for being yet another Democratic politician in Washington who thought his job, and the job of all Democrats, was to be as Republican as possible so that the clowns in the media would smile at him.

[quote] Don’t forget that he helped yank the Public Option out of Obamacare, too. Asshole.

Even with Lieberman supporting it, they wouldn't have had the votes.

Lieberman's wife was a lobbyist for the Big Pharma - Hence his principled position on healthcare

[quote]We trash on Lieberman for supporting McCain.

We trash Lieberman for defecting to a candidate for personal gain, rather than political positions he claims to have supported for the majority of his decades long political career. Also, we don't hate Lieberman just for supporting McCain.

No one cares that a short-lived former communications director for a rethug president supported the succeeding rethug presidential candidate.

[quote]Wallace described herself as a "self-loathing former Republican" in March 2021

Why wouldn't we love someone who defected to the dems?

But in fairness, it was Al Gore who deserves most of the blame for falling for the stupid shit of the Republican Party AND the Washington press corps. Shoulda told them all to fuck off and told Newt Gingrich that if he hated blowjobs so much maybe his cunt of a third wife shouldn't have given him so many while he was married to his second wife.

[quote] Why wouldn't we love someone who defected to the dems?

Yes, but let's at least concede they've taken some consistent positions. Both for McCain, Hillary & Biden, with both recognizing the defeat of Trump this year was of paramount concern.

Scrolling through DL I thought this said Sean Lennon.

You think helmet head gave that fat pig blowjobs, r58? Please. Like she could find his tiny pecker or would even bother to look.

He was mad because he never GOT a blowjob.

THIS was on his iPod, for sure

[quote]Why the fuck Al Gore chose that asshole, I’ll never know.

He needed the liberal Jewish vote.

Joe Lieberman?-dead-sad,loved him on the Nanny,great comedic timing…

Rot in hell you greedy CT insurance industry flunky.

He had a bad fall? funny,I always thought that bitch could fly-I’m sure he thought he could too

Michael Smerconish must be absolutely beside himself. Lieberman spent the last several months of his life edging the “moderate” media about who would be selected for the No Labels 2024 ticket. Squandered his final moments if you ask me.

I wonder if No Labels is still going to put a candidate forward. It seems a bit morose now.

[quote]Yes, but let's at least concede they've taken some consistent positions. Both for McCain, Hillary & Biden, with both recognizing the defeat of Trump this year was of paramount concern.

Motives matter.

[quote] He needed the liberal Jewish vote.

Nonsense. Lieberman was one of the most conservative Democrats in the Senate at the time. If Gore wanted the Jewish liberal vote, he'd done better picking Russ Feingold as his running mate.

A Democratic nominee needing the liberal Jewish vote?! If that were the case, the election was already over.

I was assuming that R63 was being ironic. Everyone at the time thought Gore picked Lieberman out of a timid fear that he needed a moral scold on the ticket to distance himself from Clinton's horndogginess. When I heard the news I said, "What an idiot."

[quote] Everyone at the time thought Gore picked Lieberman out of a timid fear that he needed a moral scold on the ticket to distance himself from Clinton's horndogginess.

The Gore team's internal polling showed what a drag Clinton's personal unlikability would be on the ticket, so they picked the anti-Clinton. From their perspective, it was an easy call.

Filthy traitor and corrupt scum.

He was the sole person responsible for removing the public option from being included in Obama's Affordable Care Act. The only way for it to proceed was to drop it. So fuck Lieberman for that.

Also, on numerous occasions he sided with Israel right wing policies over US policies.

If mild-mannered Joe Lieberman warrants such over the top vitriol, R73, what do you have in reserve for Trump?

Don’t forget about me, R74.

Lieberman also declared during the 2000 Florida brouhaha that he thought the counting should stop despite everyone pointing out to him that the military vote — done mostly by mail — had not yet been counted. Lieberman's "brand" was supposedly pro-military (due to his friendship with McCain) and he should have known better, but he didn't. He put it out there, it gave the Republicans that patina of bipartisanship so crucial in that era, and that was that. The SCOTUS stopped the counting within a couple of days.

Zell Miller was worse than Lieberman.

[quote]A Democratic nominee needing the liberal Jewish vote?! If that were the case, the election was already over.

Put that election in its historical context. There weren’t rabid leftists in the Democratic Party back then.

There had never been a Jewish person in high office in the US. Clinton had secured the black vote and it was likely they would stick with Gore. But Jews were on the fence.

Bush and Gore were indistinguishable. Both from Southern states, both somewhat “Christian” and family values oriented, both from politically connected families. Gore needed something to set him apart. He had three choices: woman, black or Jew. He went with the “safest” option at that time.

Judah Benjamin R79, speaking of the South.

Henry Kissinger, speaking of the North

Lieberman was mistakenly thought to be 'moderate" when really he was a "pay to play" shithead.

[quote] Judah Benjamin [R79], speaking of the South.

Does being in a high position in the Confederate States of America really count?

My comment was more about POTUS and VP. Of course there were Jews in the other positions.

That fucking creaky old voice of his. The worst. Nasally sandpaper.

He also stated that the constitution doesn’t protect against freedom from religion.

Give R82 a prize! Yep - he started off one way and then FUCKING QUICKLY veered into a Republican shill.

Fuck him - glad he's dead.

He sold his soul to the devil a long time before he died.

that it was from a fall may prove sanctimonium to be a for real free radical available to us all..

Ned Lamont must be celebrating..

He was the John McCain of the Democratic Party, but without the obnoxious daughter.

Susan Dey doesn't do politics.

I think I got him beat, R84.

Killed single payer insurance for a huge payback to his big insurance donors in Hartford.

Yes people forget that the insurance industry is based out of Connecticut.

His legacy will forever be his unfailing protection of Big Insurance against the medical needs of 300 million people.

He stood strong against the poor and middle class.

He needs to be buried quickly and quietly.

Sadly, he died on National Joe Day and therefore really didn't have a chance to celebrate his big day.

NYTimes “Symbol of Prostitude in Senate”

[quote] But Jews were on the fence.

Please, there was no doubt which way the majority of Jewish voters would go (let alone liberal Jewish voters). They ended up going to Gore 4:1, the same as the two previous elections (1992 and 1996).

Unfortunately, his last name gave the GOP some good wordplay for their signs at the Supreme Court during Bush v Gore: "SORE LOSERMAN."

Lieberman can't be blamed for that, but he can be blamed for being a noxious cunt.

He will lie in state in the penthouse atop one of the Insurance company giants in Hartford

[quote]that it was from a fall may prove sanctimonium to be a for real free radical available to us all.. Ned Lamont must be celebrating..

Oh, dear. Oh, dear. Oh, dear. Oh, dear.

At the hospital 🏥 he was denied healthcare

[quote]He needs to be buried quickly and quietly.

He’s Jewish, he should already be in the ground. They don’t wait around on burying their dead.

Excerpts from the Times’s obituary:

“[The ruling in Bush v. Gore] was a miscarriage of Justice on two levels,” Mr. Lieberman said in a 2023 interview for this obituary. “One was that the Florida Supreme Court had already ruled in our favor to continue the recounts, and the other was that it was an extrajudicial political decision made in the crisis of a transition of power, and out of line with precedents of the Supreme Court.”

“[Lieberman] also cast the 60th and deciding vote under Senate rules to pass [the] Affordable Care Act in 2010 …”

“Mr. Lieberman was also instrumental in Mr. Obama’s successful 2010 effort to repeal a 17-year old ‘Don’t ask, don’t tell’ Armed Forces policy, which had forced gay and lesbian service members to be closeted or face discharges.”

It's rich to watch Fox News bend over backwards to lionize Lieberman, principally because of his stalwart support for the Iraq War, a war it championed throughout, when Trump, in typical understated fashion, called that invasion "the single worst decision ever made."

It was because he single-handedly killed the Public Option (single payer) that he became a hero to the right. His championing of the Iraq War would be second.

No, R105, that happened only AFTER years of unwavering support for the Bush/Cheney war & his ‘08 support for McCain, that included speaking at the ‘O8 GOP convention. By the time Obama became president, Lieberman was already a pariah in the Democratic Party & championed by Fox News.

^ Not to mention he had already been defeated in a 2006 Democratic primary for his re-election to the Senate, leading him to run - & win - as an independent.

All Trader Joe’s will dim their lights tonight in tribute

This asshole endorsed John McCain (and Wasilla moose Mama Sarah Palin) over Barack Obama. Plus he helped torpedo a public option, supported the illegal Iraq War, didn't lift a finger to count the Floriduh votes in 2000, and was a cheerleader for the No Labels third party nonsense. He can fuck right off to hell.

Al Gore was one of the eulogists at his funeral.

^The other pols - all Democrats - who spoke were Ned Lamont, Richard Blumenthal, Chris Murphy & Chris Dodd.

We love Chris Murphy here, but he's a wuss when it comes to "civility" with the right. His euphemistic statement on Lieberman:

[quote] In an era of political carbon copies, Joe Lieberman was a singularity. He fit into no political box. He defied party orthodoxy. He simply did what he believed to be right for the country and what was right for the state he adored.

Then a list of Lieberman's liberal credentials; no mention of his undoing all of them by his support of the right.

[quote]He sometimes frustrated members of both parties, but that was mostly because he refused to be defined by partisanship

Insert Jessica Walters eyeroll.

R112, what’s the word for Connecticut citizens en masse? Like Ohioans, Montanans?

R113, I've heard "nutmeggers," which I loathe, and "Connecticunts," which is unspeakable (and in any case would seem restricted to our less tolerable residents, such as Joe L.). There doesn't seem to be any standard toponym for Connecticut people. Maybe Connecticutter? Never heard that used, though.

R106 I was not listing chronologically. No matter how much he made for the war machine, it pales in comparison to the trillions he brought home to the Insurance Cartel.

Al Gore also said bad things about gay people running for office in Tennessee in the 80s. Not exactly a "Profile in Courage" that one.

Al Gore's cowardice had a lot to do with the horrors since Jan 20 2001

He was simply a bad candidate and did not have the necessary charisma coming after Clinton.

He reminds me of Gordon Brown. Do you remember Gordon Brown? Nobody does.

Brown at least has Aspergers, I don’t know what Gore’s excuse was.

Joe Lieberman was the original version of Krysten Sinema and Joe Manchin.

And before Lieberman, there was Daniel Patrick Moynihan, who invented the stab-my-party-in-the-back-and-support-the-Republican playbook.

DINOS 🦕

Yep, R120, and I've always hated the way his old acolytes Chris Matthews and Lawrence O'Donnell continue to lick his rotting corpses asshole to this day.

That man was a virtue-signaling racist condescending asshole.