C'mon, you know you bought that lurid piece of shit book Bag of toys back in the day.
He was so evil. And gay,
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C'mon, you know you bought that lurid piece of shit book Bag of toys back in the day.
He was so evil. And gay,
by Anonymous | reply 77 | March 22, 2024 11:46 PM |
Is he what Murphy based upon for Quinto's character in AHS: New York?
by Anonymous | reply 1 | March 19, 2024 10:19 PM |
Paywalled articles from the NYT are evil, OP.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | March 19, 2024 10:29 PM |
Guilty. Bought the book. Bye Bye creep.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | March 19, 2024 10:32 PM |
I guess God needed another angel đ
by Anonymous | reply 4 | March 19, 2024 10:34 PM |
Which browser do you use R2? In most of the web browsers you have some reading mode that just happens to defeat the NYT paywall. I can use both in Firefox or Safari. You can access this mode by clicking on a tiny icon in the address bar that looks just like a text page. Also I noticed that the New York Times is freely and completely available on the tor network, probably to make it available to political activists across the world.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | March 19, 2024 10:39 PM |
RIP - Sick Fuck
by Anonymous | reply 7 | March 19, 2024 10:53 PM |
After getting out of prison a second time, in 2005, Mr. Crispo bought a co-op apartment and two ground-floor spaces in a residential tower in Fort Greene, Brooklyn, intending to open yet another gallery.
But his plans never worked out, and by 2017 he was facing bankruptcy again.
He took out a series of loans from a realty company, using his co-op shares and some of his artwork as collateral. When he defaulted on the loans, the realty company took ownership of the shares.
Mr. Crispo refused to leave the apartment, and he erected a series of legal roadblocks to delay eviction.
At the same time, he was growing erratic; he continued to use drugs and threw sex parties in his apartment, and on at least one occasion was seen naked and defecating in the hallway.
The realty company finally filed an eviction notice on March 17, 2020, just as the pandemic took hold and not long before Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo of New York imposed an eviction moratorium.
By the time the moratorium was lifted, in 2022, Mr. Crispoâs health had declined significantly.
According to medical records he submitted to the court, he suffered from hypertension, heart disease and depression, among other ailments, and he used his condition to delay eviction further.
In September, a judge ordered the eviction to proceed, a decision Mr. Crispo appealed the next day. The appeal was still pending at his death.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | March 19, 2024 11:06 PM |
YAY!!!
by Anonymous | reply 9 | March 19, 2024 11:08 PM |
Mr. Crispo got out of prison in 1989. Just days after his release, his home in Southampton was destroyed in an explosion, along with the art inside. He sued the Long Island Lighting Company, claiming that it had placed a gas line too close to the house.
A jury awarded him $8.6 million in 1991. He used some of that money to buy a $2 million house in Charleston, S.C., where he said he intended to set up a new business. But he soon faced financial trouble and, after declaring bankruptcy in 1996, was forced to sell the house.
By then, however, he had managed to claw back the remaining art seized by the I.R.S. He sold off pieces of it, raising $14 million, which he put into his comeback, an art space that he said would be âthe largest sculpture gallery in the world,â located in the meatpacking district.
âI do think that I am on the road to a great success,â he told The New York Times in 1998, âand I donât think that I will let anyone be disappointed.â The gallery was set to open in mid-1999. But that May he was arrested yet again, this time for threatening to kidnap the 4-year-old daughter of a lawyer who had been involved in his bankruptcy case.
Mr. Crispo had grown irate after the lawyerâs firm, which controlled the money during his bankruptcy proceedings, delayed sending him a $2,000 check.
He told the lawyer that he had photographs of her daughter at a playground, knew where she lived and would kidnap the child if the check did not arrive soon.
Mr. Crispoâs partner, Arthur Smith, died in 1997. Mr. Crispo had been living in Mr. Smithâs Manhattan apartment, but Mr. Smithâs family forced him to move out following the death.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | March 19, 2024 11:11 PM |
I saw his story acted out by Grand Guignol puppets in New York many years ago.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | March 19, 2024 11:13 PM |
He was awarded almost 10 million from a suspicious fire. Recouped 14 million from the I.Fucking. R.S.
But threatened his lawyer when a 2 thousand dollar check was late and squatted in his boyfriends apartment until removed.
Millions of dollars, didn't pay his bills?
Where did the money go?
And did the family of hid victims receive compensation?
by Anonymous | reply 12 | March 19, 2024 11:15 PM |
I knew Andrew when. Before when, really. I met him and two of his friends at the Barefoot Boy one night in 1975, and I brought him home with me. He was extraordinarily handsome, and to this day, I have partaken of few penises that were as long and, especially, as thick. A true 20 oz. beercan dick.
I was an art student at the time I met him, so the Egil Dag Vesti story sends a chill up my spine every time I hear about it. I don't think Andrew was into drugs when I knew him, though. At least, he never offered me drugs when we would get together, and I didn't notice any particular intensity I would associate with drugs, which I'd been off of for a few years at the time. If he was intense, and he was a very enthusiastic sex partner, he channeled it all into giving me what he thought was the time of my life.
Unfortunately, he was just too large of penis, and my attention went elsewhere, to one of the friends he'd been with the night we met.
I moved out west eventually, and came back to New York a few years later. I got in touch with him, as I'd finally learned how to take a large cock and enjoy it, but he didn't want to see me. He told me I wouldn't be into the things he was into now. This was in 1981-82. I guess I'm glad I didn't hook up with him again.
But that face. That angel face. He'd become the devil.
I found out about him again in the mid-'80s. I made friends with someone in Crispo's new crowd, and he told me of the flogging parties and of Egil, at least what he knew of Egil.
Now everyone I knew from this group of people is dead. I wonder where Andrew's soul has ended up, if there really are such places as heaven and hell. He never hurt me, but damn, he did a lot of rotten shit to other people in the years after I knew him.
RIP, Andrew. Randall and Sean, too.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | March 19, 2024 11:15 PM |
r6 Too much effort for this drivel.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | March 19, 2024 11:15 PM |
Convicted 1980s âDeath Maskâ killer Bernard Legeros is embroiled in a bizarre custody battle with his estranged wife over their 9-month-old son â a child they conceived during a conjugal visit in a prison trailer, The Post has learned.
Legeros, who is serving 25 years to life, wants his parents to have custody of his son. He is up for parole in 2010.
In 2001, he tied the knot with Jeanne Bissonnette after she proposed to him within two hours of their first meeting, court records show.
Bissonnette, 45, gave birth to their son, John Bernard Legeros, this past January amid an often-tumultuous relationship with her husband.
In February 1985, Legeros gained notoriety while working as an enforcer for former world-renowned Manhattan art dealer Andrew Crispo.
Legeros, now 45, fired two bullets into the brain of Norwegian fashion student Eigil Vesti, 26, after Crispo met Vesti at Manhattanâs Hellfire club.
Weeks later, Vestiâs burned and mutilated corpse was discovered with a leather S&M mask over his head on the Legeros estate in Rockland County.
Lawyers for Legeros and his estranged wife, who lives in Washington state, met yesterday for a preliminary hearing in Family Court in upstate Plattsburgh.
Bissonnetteâs attorney, Monique McBride, said Legeros incorrectly filed court papers in the wrong county.
Legerosâ attorney declined to comment.
In 1985, Legeros confessed that Crispo ordered him to shoot Vesti during a cocaine-fueled sadomasochistic ritual.
Since there was no corroborating witness, Crispo was not convicted in the slaying. Legeros was sentenced to 25 years to life. He has already spent more than 22 years in prison and will be eligible for parole in 2010.
Crispo has kept a low profile since the murder but is believed to be living in the New York area.
Bissonnette initiated contact with Legeros by writing him a letter in September 2000 after she read a book, âBag of Toys,â about the heinous murder, court records show.
A month later, Bissonnette flew to New York and a made âsurpriseâ visit to see Legeros at Clinton prison in upstate Dannemora, the documents reveal.
After Bissonnette quickly proposed marriage, Legeros warned that she should think about her decision.
But Bissonnette believed they would âone day bond on the molecular level by having a baby,â the records state. The two were married on June 9, 2001, at the prison.
Bissonnette moved to New York to be closer to Legeros and got a job at an upstate pharmaceutical company. Their relationship soon deteriorated because Bissonnette was âso distrustfulâ of Legerosâ wealthy, prominent parents.
In addition, Bissonnette accused Legerosâ brother of shooting an arrow into her cat and repeatedly threatened to kill herself.
She also alleged that Legeros slept with the wife of his fellow inmate â Daniel Pelosi, who bludgeoned to death Hamptons millionaire banker Ted Ammon.
Bissonnette gave birth on Jan. 31 and then filed for divorce from her husband, seeking full custody of their son.
In court filings, she claimed Legeros wanted the baby only as a âcompelling reasonâ to be granted clemency by the governor. Legeros countered that Bissonnette wanted sole custody of the baby for âfinancial reasons.â
by Anonymous | reply 15 | March 19, 2024 11:22 PM |
Bissonnette, 45, married LeGeros, 45, in a 2001 prison ceremony and the couple later conceived a child during a conjugal visit in a trailer.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | March 19, 2024 11:26 PM |
Bernard LeGeros paroled after 3 decades for Stony Point S&M murder
by Anonymous | reply 17 | March 19, 2024 11:28 PM |
Gribetz said Vesti became a secondary murder target after a Limelight manager refused to leave the nightclub with Crispo, LeGeros and their friends.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | March 19, 2024 11:30 PM |
Who the fuck marries a murderer who is in prison and has a baby with him?
by Anonymous | reply 19 | March 19, 2024 11:35 PM |
The baby mama tried to get married to John Lotter ten years ago.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | March 19, 2024 11:37 PM |
Two months after the Vesti murder, Mr. Crispo and Mr. LeGeros were indicted in a different case, charged with the 1984 kidnapping and torturing of a 26-year-old bartender named Mark Leslie.
The case was not tried until 1988. Mr. LeGeros pleaded guilty, but Mr. Crispo was acquitted, having convinced the jury that the activity he participated in was consensual.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | March 20, 2024 12:01 AM |
I misread this, the bartender was not murdered. He was "only", kidnapped and tortured!
by Anonymous | reply 22 | March 20, 2024 12:40 AM |
It's amazing how he had so many chances to quit while he was ahead and he fucked it up. He was worth 50 million and ends up going to prison. He blow ups his house a week after getting out of prison and then wins 8 million in a lawsuit only to piss it away on a failed business venture. He clawed back 14 million in art from the IRS only to piss it away on a failed business venture. This guy was determined to fuck himself over.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | March 20, 2024 12:42 AM |
This story interests me because this is a tale of someone who literally got away with murder, cheated, grifted, defecated on other people all his life and yet he died relatively peacefully in an old aged home out in Brooklyn.
This was a Philly whore,literally, who was lifted from the gutter by one of his johns.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | March 20, 2024 2:57 AM |
[quote]This was a Philly whore, literally, who was lifted from the gutter by one of his johns.
Who gripped said whore easily by his exceedingly large dong.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | March 20, 2024 3:00 AM |
That old đ° about hookers with a heart of gold is just another lie.
Mean. Greedy. Hateful. Cold.
You would think a streetwalker elevated in society would be grateful for the opportunity to become something more than a cumguzzler. Nope.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | March 20, 2024 3:02 AM |
[quote]I wonder where Andrew's soul has ended up, if there really are such places as heaven and hell. He never hurt me, but damn, he did a lot of rotten shit to other people in the years after I knew him.
Sherlock making excuses for a big dicked murderer still wandering in the gates of Heaven will open up for him. I mean, he never hurt ME. Me, Me, Me. And he had a big dick so all should be forgiven.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | March 20, 2024 3:08 AM |
This chubby goth explains the crime for those of you too young to remember
by Anonymous | reply 28 | March 20, 2024 4:10 AM |
Good riddance, however long overdue.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | March 21, 2024 12:50 PM |
The David France book is a good read.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | March 21, 2024 1:03 PM |
Itâs a fascinating American life though that would make for a good movie.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | March 21, 2024 1:25 PM |
I was thinking Netflix short series, but definitely, R31.
When he bought the house in Charleston he paid more than twice what any house in the city had ever sold for. But is is one of the most beautiful houses in the U.S. His reputation was already destroyed and he didn't hang onto the property before more money troubles caught him up; nor did he mix among Charlestonians.
by Anonymous | reply 32 | March 21, 2024 1:39 PM |
[quote]Itâs a fascinating American life though that would make for a good movie.
[quote]I was thinking Netflix short series, but definitely, [R31].
Timmy could star as the young Andrew.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | March 21, 2024 2:19 PM |
Not just any John, R24. The former chairman of the Philadelphia Museum of Art.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | March 21, 2024 2:35 PM |
I remember reading the true crime book of the murder. The sex mask always creeped me out.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | March 21, 2024 4:36 PM |
Who of you has had him other than R13?
by Anonymous | reply 37 | March 21, 2024 5:38 PM |
That poor coroner who had to take off the mask...
by Anonymous | reply 38 | March 21, 2024 6:11 PM |
Americans worship wealth and don't care how wealth is achieved and are unable to distinguish infamy from fame.
Don't want to see a film elevate something like this beyond the garbage he was.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | March 21, 2024 10:54 PM |
I dont think there is any way you could turn that guys life into an achievement. It would be more like a Jeffery Dahmer type movie. A cautionary tail for chasing big dick ignoring all the red flags around it. So maybe guys like r13 wont be so blinded by dick to the extent he is even questioning that the guy was doing anything wrong.
by Anonymous | reply 40 | March 21, 2024 11:34 PM |
Don't wanna see any films about Dahmer either. Nope.
by Anonymous | reply 41 | March 21, 2024 11:36 PM |
I saw the film about the killer clown with Brian Dennehy and it is excellent.
But I won't watch again.
I watched the film on television as a kid and was genuinely spooked during the handcuff scene.
by Anonymous | reply 42 | March 21, 2024 11:42 PM |
It was so long ago that I had all but forgotten about this case. How is it possible that they perpetrators manage to get out of jail at all? Shouldn't they have gotten life without the possibility of parole at the very least? Personally I believe they should have gotten the death penalty.
by Anonymous | reply 43 | March 22, 2024 12:15 AM |
She should be under the prison.
by Anonymous | reply 44 | March 22, 2024 12:35 AM |
Arthur E. Smith, an interior designer known for his comfortable yet tailored interiors, died on Friday at New York Hospital. He was 56 and lived in Manhattan.
The cause was lymphoma, said Andrew Crispo, his companion.
Mr. Smith, who was born in Vidalia, Ga., graduated from Auburn University in 1960. He moved to New York City, where he first worked for Edward Garratt, an antiques dealer. While working for Garratt, Mr. Smith first met Billy Baldwin, the legendary interior designer, and went to work for him, first as his assistant for seven years and later as his partner until Baldwinâs retirement in 1972.
by Anonymous | reply 45 | March 22, 2024 12:43 AM |
As R2 Said, R45, paywalled articles are evil.
by Anonymous | reply 47 | March 22, 2024 1:08 AM |
R46. Oh my, the photo on the right is soâŠbusy.
The left, crisp but dated.
His clients clearly drove his designs.
by Anonymous | reply 48 | March 22, 2024 1:08 AM |
I am not interested in accommodating you r47
by Anonymous | reply 49 | March 22, 2024 1:09 AM |
Amazing how people got away with claiming sexual assault as consensual in the 80es. I am sure the jury was homophobic and saw this as âfag stuff.â
by Anonymous | reply 50 | March 22, 2024 1:11 AM |
What a bizarre story! The mask that vesti was found in was horrifying!
by Anonymous | reply 51 | March 22, 2024 1:22 AM |
I don't mind when psychos croak. Hear that, Trump?
by Anonymous | reply 52 | March 22, 2024 1:23 AM |
This fuck had a lot of help all his life. He was released from prison and the next week his home in the Hamptons blew up.
No questions asked? He gets an 8 million dollar settlement.
Grifters get help from others to grift.
This one? Managed to retrieve 14 million dollars BACK from the IRS and other people have done serious jail time for owing the feds.
Possessing a huge beer-can cock served him well.
by Anonymous | reply 53 | March 22, 2024 2:03 AM |
In the 80's a jury would just write that off as a "lover's quarrel"
by Anonymous | reply 54 | March 22, 2024 2:42 AM |
R53, the dong, while spectacular in every way, was secondary to the beauty of his face. As close as I have ever seen to the face of an angel.
by Anonymous | reply 55 | March 22, 2024 2:58 AM |
He was hot but insane. He looked like no angel.
by Anonymous | reply 56 | March 22, 2024 3:25 AM |
This means nothing as dataloungers are visually impaired
by Anonymous | reply 57 | March 22, 2024 3:26 AM |
Face of an angel? How thick were your beer goggles?
by Anonymous | reply 58 | March 22, 2024 3:28 AM |
I knew him before the beatings started and the drugs took over. I didn't see him again after 1976, up to that point, he was one of the handsomest men I'd ever met. Thinner, too, than most photos we see nowadays.
by Anonymous | reply 59 | March 22, 2024 3:40 AM |
Andrew was a "South Philly whore" from the 1960's who ripped off a wealthy Fag on Rittenhouse Square. There were "Hustlers" who worked& hung out on the square in the 60's.
He stole a small Renoir or a Degas off the wall in Henry Mc McIlhenny home in the 60's. He fucked that old man into a coma. The home is now owned by Steven Starr (Philly gay restaurant icon). We met once at a dinner party after I got married, needless to say, we didn't hit it off!!!
by Anonymous | reply 60 | March 22, 2024 3:55 AM |
I assume you are talking about Starr, R60? See R35 for your âwealthy fagâ, btw.
by Anonymous | reply 61 | March 22, 2024 5:20 AM |
My old roommate in NYC was a business partner of his. The roommate was a big dealer in the art world, particularly for commercial asset art (e.g. expensive art that is rotated among exec's offices or is put up in lobbies).
This was 1991? I had moved to NYC in 88 so I never heard of this murder and the internet wasnt around then. But he kept talking about the 'well-known' mask murder. I just nodded my head but had no idea what he was talking about.
He had some WILD stories of the art world in the 80's. I wish I had asked him more about it - but some of it sounded too storied to be true. This guy had lost all his money, so trusting everything he said was hard to verify.
by Anonymous | reply 62 | March 22, 2024 5:28 AM |
The art dealing world is so fucked up on every level, Andrew just took it a notch higher privately.
by Anonymous | reply 63 | March 22, 2024 5:37 AM |
Are there any pictures of Crispo as a young man?
by Anonymous | reply 64 | March 22, 2024 5:41 AM |
R64 what a shame that there isnât a tool to search the internet - you could call it âGoogleâ - where you could type âAndrew Crispo youngâ (or similar) and it would return with anything that matched that description.
Much better to just send your question into the ether and expect someone else to do that for you.
by Anonymous | reply 65 | March 22, 2024 5:59 AM |
How rare are sadists like him I wonder, in the demographic with fuck you money? In my job I work with 1 percenters, they are nice but some are downright scary
by Anonymous | reply 66 | March 22, 2024 6:00 AM |
The DLer could be a liar about knowing him, size meat, and everything elseâŠ.
by Anonymous | reply 67 | March 22, 2024 6:53 AM |
You know, like the 436 people who were supposed to be at El Coyote that night with SharonâŠ.
by Anonymous | reply 68 | March 22, 2024 6:54 AM |
R66 Well, thanks. I looked and there are very few pictures of him online altogether. Just a couple of a slightly gnarled-looking older guy and none of him young.
by Anonymous | reply 69 | March 22, 2024 7:35 AM |
No pics of him on Google as a young man, from what I saw, I dont think he was ever good looking even at middle age.
by Anonymous | reply 70 | March 22, 2024 8:52 AM |
[Quote]How rare are sadists like him I wonder, in the demographic with fuck you money?
My guess is a lot less rare than we think. They have the money to cover it up.
by Anonymous | reply 71 | March 22, 2024 10:02 AM |
Is hardcore S&M still a thing? I donât know anybody who is into this.
by Anonymous | reply 72 | March 22, 2024 10:15 AM |
R64 there is a picture of Crispo as a young man in David Franceâs book before he got his double chin and belly . Heâs definitely not angelic, not cute either. Nasty.
by Anonymous | reply 73 | March 22, 2024 11:34 AM |
What a thoroughly dislikable lot they are.
by Anonymous | reply 74 | March 22, 2024 9:04 PM |
Let's hope he's burning right now.
by Anonymous | reply 75 | March 22, 2024 10:21 PM |
The victim Egil Dag Vesti may have been into the S&M scene, but I'm sure he wasn't expecting a painful torture, death, dismemberment and burning his remains.
by Anonymous | reply 76 | March 22, 2024 11:37 PM |
The victim was shot to death. I didn't know the guy and I wasn't around when he was killed, but I can be sure his kink did not include being shot to death.
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