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Even Kate and William’s Friends Are Shocked by Missing Wedding Ring

Speculation over the health of Prince William and Kate Middleton’s marriage, triggered by the absence of a wedding band on Kate’s ring finger in her notorious Mother’s Day photograph, has been thrust firmly back into the mainstream after Stephen Colbert trolled Prince William in his monologue Tuesday with rumors of an affair.

Colbert astonished audiences Tuesday night by referring to an affair William is widely alleged to have had with his neighbor, Rose Hanbury, the Marchioness of Cholmondeley. The palace has repeatedly denied an affair ever took place.

A former royal staffer told The Daily Beast that Colbert’s comments would be “deeply annoying” as William and Kate’s office at Kensington Palace desperately tries to course correct after a tumultuous few days of headlines.

The former courtier, who worked with William and Kate when employed at the palace, said, “It’s deeply annoying and unhelpful for the palace, but it’s not surprising that the affair rumors are being reheated. What else are people supposed to think when she sends out a photo not wearing her wedding ring?”

Another source, who is a friend of Kate and William’s, said that they and their friend group were “completely baffled” as to why Kate put out a picture which showed her without a wedding band when it seemed “guaranteed to get people asking questions about the state of the marriage.”

The friend said: “They are often seen together at school events, and really it is remarkable how one and often both of them will always be at every match, every music concert and every prize giving. The relationship has always seemed incredibly strong despite the immense pressure they are under, so it’s fair to say we were all completely baffled when the picture came out with the wedding ring missing, especially as it was photoshopped. It just seemed guaranteed to get people asking questions about the state of the marriage.”

In public at least, William and Kate not only present a united front, but a telegenic one. Their family unit and camera-friendly genial bearing also represent the future of the royal family in microcosm—a more open, seemingly progressive, and at least more normal-looking and relatable one than the stiffer and more them-and-us royal models of the past.

Any threat, perceived or otherwise, to Kate and William’s marriage places an imperiling question mark over the royal institution itself—at a time when it is already looking smaller and more vulnerable than ever before, with both King Charles and Kate absent from public duties because of their medical issues.

The affair rumors go back to 2019 when The Daily Beast reported on palace lawyers’ attempts to suppress reporting of the alleged affair by issuing stern legal notices to British publications, cautioning them not to write about the rumors.

At the time, official sources in Kensington Palace told The Daily Beast that the allegations were “totally wrong and false.” Royal law firm Harbottle and Lewis issued letters to the British media stating that the stories were “false and highly damaging.”

British newspapers instead reported that there had been a terrible argument between former friends Kate and Rose without giving a cause.

Colbert said in his opening monologue that “internet sleuths” were guessing that Kate’s absence “may be related to her husband and the future king of England, William, having an affair.”

Colbert, who mocked the fact that Rose’s married name, Cholmondeley, is pronounced Chumley, said there had been “rumors of an affair… since 2019.”

Speculation about Kate and William’s marriage sparked into life again in mainstream British newspapers after Kate and William were photographed in a car together Monday with Kate looking, apparently glumly, away from her husband.

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Prominent columnist Liz Jones wrote in the Daily Mail that the picture rang “alarm bells” because it suggested “that Kate is not co-operating and that she didn’t have a hand in photogate but took the rap for it.”

Sarah Vine, a politically connected columnist in the same paper, wrote that her missing wedding ring was “concerning,” saying it seemed, “deliberate, a statement in its own right. If it’s not there, could that be because she doesn’t want it there? It doesn’t bear thinking about.”

She added that the miserable atmosphere of the “snap of them leaving Windsor” was “less than encouraging.”

The problem with the picture, Vine wrote, “is that it is, in effect, a lie. What’s worse, it now looks like a lie conceived to hide other lies, a classic example of that old adage: it’s not the crime that gets you, but the cover-up. And there’s only one way to put an end to it: Come clean about what’s really going on—or risk drowning in a quagmire of their own making.”

Kensington Palace did not respond to a request for comment.

by Anonymousreply 1March 14, 2024 8:17 AM

Maybe her fingers are swollen. It's morning in England. Maybe they'll drag her outside.

by Anonymousreply 2March 14, 2024 8:30 AM

[quote]Colbert astonished audiences Tuesday night by referring to an affair William is widely alleged to have had with his neighbor, Rose Hanbury, the Marchioness of Cholmondeley.

Glad that Colbert brought this up -- a lot of other people don't have the guts to do it.

by Anonymousreply 3March 14, 2024 8:40 AM

How very bizarre for Colbert to bring this up to all. Why do you believe this needs to be brought up, r3? Whether it happened or not, I don't care. But what bearing would it have on anything? It's not like it's interfering with matters of state.

by Anonymousreply 4March 14, 2024 9:00 AM

Maybe she accidentally photoshopped it away with her modifications. Shrugs.

by Anonymousreply 5March 14, 2024 9:11 AM

Maybe they're not even her hands.

by Anonymousreply 6March 14, 2024 9:17 AM

I agree, r4. Colbert has become a bit of a drip.

by Anonymousreply 7March 14, 2024 9:17 AM

The Royal Family = The Kardashians

by Anonymousreply 8March 14, 2024 10:12 AM

Simply put, I think Kate died. They don’t know how to address the public about a death of someone so young in the Royal Family.

by Anonymousreply 9March 14, 2024 10:24 AM

If only there was a recent similar event they could draw inspiration from!

by Anonymousreply 10March 14, 2024 10:27 AM

Never seen his show, but Stephen Colbert sounds like an ass.

by Anonymousreply 11March 14, 2024 12:05 PM

If she is unhappy she's hid it well. Don't the Royals have communications people who should have vetted the photo before sending it out to the world? William is letting her take full blame, too.

by Anonymousreply 12March 14, 2024 12:06 PM

R11- He's really not, unless he's changed radically in a short time. That's why I found the commentary surprising. It's the sort of treatment comedians reserve for publicly buffoonish couples like Johnny Depp and Amber Heard. Especially bizarre since one of the PoW is recovering from a serious health crisis.

by Anonymousreply 13March 14, 2024 12:32 PM

Colbert kissed Harry's ass when he was on the show.

by Anonymousreply 14March 14, 2024 1:40 PM

The whole situation has got out of hand. I suppose it was to be expected, the pendulum swings both ways and W&K have been at the peak of popularity for so long but this downswing when she’s recovering from major surgery is going to rebound nastily.

by Anonymousreply 15March 14, 2024 1:41 PM

[quote]At the time, official sources in Kensington Palace told The Daily Beast that the allegations were “totally wrong and false.” Royal law firm Harbottle and Lewis issued letters to the British media stating that the stories were “false and highly damaging.”

Where there's smoke, there's fire. He's fucking her, everyone knows he's fucking her, and they have spent all of this time trying to pretend like he's not fucking her. I know the stans need to believe in the idea of some fairy tale perfect marriage, but that's not life. Marriage is hard and, yes, sometimes married people fuck other people on the regular.

by Anonymousreply 16March 14, 2024 2:03 PM

I can’t believe the Prince of Wales cheated on his stunning wife with some muppet-looking aristocrat!

by Anonymousreply 17March 14, 2024 2:20 PM

That may be so but if you look at their photos together during public appearances and the video clips too, they seem to be perfectly comfortable together, relaxed, smiling. Kate’s not a trained actress and she hasn’t been drilled in public appearances since birth. I’m sure she has a game face but I’ve never seen it slip, have you? Maybe she made her peace with an affair, knowing she’d be queen some day but that’s a big leap for someone raised as middle class.

Dealing with a “photo retouching” pseudo-scandal when you’ve been seriously ill is probably making her rethink her life’s choices at the moment.

by Anonymousreply 18March 14, 2024 2:30 PM

I would want to know if she normally wears a wedding ring when off-duty. I can't imagine she wears that cocktail ring for sure but a band?

by Anonymousreply 19March 14, 2024 2:35 PM

Do hospitals still make you take off all your jewelry before an operation? What about MRIs and gold rings? Post operation: swelling fingers and then steroids which also do that. If she took off her ring before the operation, she might not be able to get it back on.

by Anonymousreply 20March 14, 2024 2:39 PM

She lost it while fisting him. It happens.

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by Anonymousreply 21March 14, 2024 2:43 PM

If they are separated and not ready to announce it, I doubt she would deliberately show her bare ring finger in that photo, she would have hidden it from view. It's more likely she wasn't wearing her rings because she is recovering at home and she put rings away during her recovery.

by Anonymousreply 22March 14, 2024 2:53 PM

It must be awful to be going through a long recovery from a serious operation while raising three young kids only to have the public suddenly wondering why you're not making an appearance anywhere, even though you made your recovery schedule quite clear and expressed a desire for privacy during recovery due to the personal nature of the illness, and there's an added bonus of everyone suddenly speculating on the state of your marriage and your husband's fidelity.

by Anonymousreply 23March 14, 2024 2:55 PM

Well she knew what she was getting into when she signed up for this, didn't she?

by Anonymousreply 24March 14, 2024 3:01 PM

R4, Colbert used to be okay but I haven't watched him for the last couple of years. The fact that he would repeat what is ultimately a nasty rumor while Kate is still recovering from serious surgery would indicate that he is, indeed, an ass. If he's a fan of Harry's, then that would explain it.

by Anonymousreply 25March 14, 2024 3:04 PM

Is that really how you see the world R25 or are you just funning around on a message board, because I can't believe an adult person would honestly think like that.

by Anonymousreply 26March 14, 2024 3:08 PM

It must be awful to be going through a long recovery from a serious operation while not really raising three young kids with a staff of 60 servants waiting on you hand and foot providing 24/7 premium medical care in a palace and not missing your estranged husband who has been living with his mistress in a separate palace for the last three years.

Fixed for the delusional R23

by Anonymousreply 27March 14, 2024 3:16 PM

[quote] William is letting her take full blame, too.

Proving yet again that William is a giant asshole.

This really speaks to his personality, and what kind of leader he would be.

As does the rumored affair.

[quote] That may be so but if you look at their photos together during public appearances and the video clips too, they seem to be perfectly comfortable together, relaxed, smiling.

This has been Kate's "thing" since the very beginning.

Remember, she stuck around waiting for the prize, and she got it. She married the future King.

I suspect that he knows it, and treats her like shit because of it.

Sort of like, "I gave you what you want, now I get to do what I want."

Unfortunately, it's more than she can bear.

I think she either had a breakdown, or she has had enough and has stopped playing along. Hence, the media blackout.

This whole thing is starting to unravel for William and Kate.

by Anonymousreply 28March 14, 2024 3:20 PM

[quote]R25 If he's a fan of Harry's, then that would explain it.

...and it would make him even more of an ass.

by Anonymousreply 29March 14, 2024 3:20 PM

Meanwhile : the LIVING HELL THAT IS THE VILE HARKLE'S MARRIAGE

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by Anonymousreply 30March 14, 2024 3:27 PM

You know, that angle totally went over my head. Where IS William in all of this? He's totally just left her out to dry and she's recovering from a near death, coma induced surgery. Not a word of support or defense. Damn, Kate.

by Anonymousreply 31March 14, 2024 3:27 PM

R28, where are you getting this from? A rumored affair is just that, there is no proof that it happened. Yes, she stuck around for the prize, as you put it, but they did break up for a while and she got on with her life until he eventually went back to her. Everything else you wrote is just speculation.

by Anonymousreply 32March 14, 2024 3:29 PM

Well then what's your take on the situation, R32?

by Anonymousreply 33March 14, 2024 3:37 PM

Fuck Kate. She’s getting her just desserts. No sympathy for this overrated slag of a woman.

by Anonymousreply 34March 14, 2024 3:38 PM

R32, my take is that we don't know what's really happening behind closed doors and everything put out there is speculation until proved otherwise. I also think that a woman recovering from serious surgery shouldn't be bullied online over a photoshopped photo. There are far more important things going on in the world.

by Anonymousreply 35March 14, 2024 3:50 PM

Isn’t the Prince of Wales expected to have a mistress?

by Anonymousreply 36March 14, 2024 4:02 PM

That's what Charles told Diana R36. I'm paraphrasing but I think it went something like, I'm not going to be the first Prince of Wales to not have a mistress.

by Anonymousreply 37March 14, 2024 4:09 PM

Princess Kate may have tolerated a mistress, obviously she knew who his father is

A bastard child would have pushed her over the edge

by Anonymousreply 38March 14, 2024 4:11 PM

[quote]This really speaks to his personality, and what kind of leader he would be. As does the rumored affair. As does the rumored affair.

Andy Kaufman faked his death.

Meghan Markle was a yacht girl.

Mama Cass choked to death while eating a sandwich.

Harry Styles spit on his Don't Worry Darling costar Chris Pine during the Venice Film Festival.

Elisabeth Moss was secretly engaged to fellow scientologist, Tom Cruise.

Hillary Clinton was involved in the death of Vince Foster.

Barak Obama is gay.

It's one thing to gossip and repeat rumours, quite another to believe they are valuable indicators of anything. Because I heard you're really smart, R28, which plainly isn't true.

by Anonymousreply 39March 14, 2024 4:12 PM

Is there a bastard child?

How old? !

by Anonymousreply 40March 14, 2024 4:12 PM

[quote]Where there's smoke, there's fire. He's fucking her, everyone knows he's fucking her, and they have spent all of this time trying to pretend like he's not fucking her. I know the stans need to believe in the idea of some fairy tale perfect marriage, but that's not life.

How should we characterize your evident need to believe an unsubstantiated rumour?

by Anonymousreply 41March 14, 2024 4:14 PM

I've seen other pictures of Kate where she is not wearing the Diana ring. (I remember one shot where she was seen buying ice cream for the kids out on the street. This was a couple of years ago. It appeared to be a candid shot that was caught by some civilian. I've seen other shots too. ) To me this was not a surprise, nor a reason for any but the looniest of the conspiracy theorists to care. That is a very large ring and cumbersome to wear day to day. Of course, she wears it on more formal occasions and when on her "working royal" events.

As for the "missing" wedding ring, I just assumed it was because either the meds or treatment for her medical situation would cause her fingers to swell.

I haven't been reading all the detailed conspiracy theories about the rings. Has anyone, anyone at all, considered that simple reason?

Occam's Razor...put simply...

[quote] The simplest solution is almost always the best.

by Anonymousreply 42March 14, 2024 4:30 PM

[quote] Is there a bastard child?

Two things definitely stand out to me, regarding the cheating rumors.

The first is from the linked article that tries to shut down the rumor that Rose Hanbury's only daughter was fathered by William.

The second is how strange I found it that Rose Hanbury's son was chosen to be a Royal Page at King Charles' coronation, even after rumors of William cheating, and Kate and Rose's "falling out."

One would think that Kate would try to put a stop to the Cholmondeley boy being a Royal Page, especially since there were rumors of his mother being the mistress of Kate's husband.

And yet, he was still allowed to be a Royal Page. I find that odd.

The fact that Prince George and Rose's son got along so well, must have added salt to the wound.

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by Anonymousreply 43March 14, 2024 4:32 PM

Rose Hanbury reminds me of Anne Boleyn, for some reason.

She has a very old-timey, Middle Ages English look about her.

It's actually kind of cool.

Like you could picture her in King Henry VIII's court.

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by Anonymousreply 44March 14, 2024 4:37 PM

Wills was using it as a cock ring. Ring a ding, ding! Here cums the king!

by Anonymousreply 45March 14, 2024 4:43 PM

Anne Boleyn is my favorite, don't drag her into this sordid mess.

by Anonymousreply 46March 14, 2024 4:46 PM

[quote] Like you could picture her in King Henry VIII's court.

Yes, with her head on a pike.

by Anonymousreply 47March 14, 2024 4:52 PM

Speaking of Rose Hanbury...

Let's talk about the husband.

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by Anonymousreply 48March 14, 2024 4:52 PM

According to gossip, Rose's husband is gay, doesn't care that she's fucking William, and is okay that the girl child is William's. He has other things to occupy his time.

by Anonymousreply 49March 14, 2024 4:57 PM

Rose's husband is quite the dandy.

Love the green scarf, gurl!

He looks way older than her, as well.

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by Anonymousreply 50March 14, 2024 5:01 PM

Rose's husband, the Marquess of Cholmondeley, gets to carry the monarch's crown, at the opening of Parliament.

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by Anonymousreply 51March 14, 2024 5:04 PM

I’ll tell you who this Cholmondjoy bitch looks like

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by Anonymousreply 52March 14, 2024 5:07 PM

Colbert is just phoning it in these days. I wonder if he even reads the material that his team pulled together for him before he stands up a spouts off every night.

by Anonymousreply 53March 14, 2024 5:12 PM

I'd love to see Kate and Rose go full-on Real Housewives....

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by Anonymousreply 54March 14, 2024 5:14 PM

Any pictures of the BASTARD?

by Anonymousreply 55March 14, 2024 5:35 PM

Lady Iris Marina Aline

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by Anonymousreply 56March 14, 2024 5:39 PM

You can tell that Rose is in a loveless marriage.

He never even holds her hand. In fact, David always has his hands behind his back when he takes photos with her.

And they both look absolutely miserable.

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by Anonymousreply 57March 14, 2024 5:51 PM

Kategate is the dumbest non-event of 2024.

by Anonymousreply 58March 14, 2024 5:52 PM

Chances are you can be the Marchioness of Cholmondeley or you can have a happy marriage. Getting both seems unrealistic. It does happen, I suppose. But rarely.

by Anonymousreply 59March 14, 2024 6:01 PM

My goodness r57, what drab dressers!

by Anonymousreply 60March 14, 2024 6:05 PM

That’s British “country” dress. Drab is the point.

by Anonymousreply 61March 14, 2024 6:07 PM

Rose does try to make an effort, R60.

But you know, the Cholmondeley's loveless marriage really does speak to the real possibility of a Prince William affair with Rose Hanbury.

After all, if she's not getting it from her husband (who might possibly be gay), then a woman will definitely look for love elsewhere.

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by Anonymousreply 62March 14, 2024 6:08 PM

Knock knock..

Who's there?

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by Anonymousreply 63March 14, 2024 6:12 PM

Yeah, I'm sure Kate and William's friends spoke to the Daily Beast. What exactly is the scenario meant to be? William took a photo and Kate photoshopped the ring out and somehow that made Charlotte's skirt all funny? The photoshop was crap though because Kate is in a coma or may even be dead?

And a five-year long affair that no one in the UK has heard of, and even Giles Coren said he made it up, but lots of American trash "media" claim to know all about! And the Cholmondeley son, who looks just like his father the Marquess of Cholmondeley, had a major role in Charles' coronation alongside George! Not a complete bullshit fabrication at all!

by Anonymousreply 64March 14, 2024 6:21 PM

Shocked, OP? Shocked?????????

by Anonymousreply 65March 14, 2024 6:23 PM

R53 I agree. I doubt Colbert cares much what the writers come up with, as long as it worth a few laughs. They probably check the tabloids out every day to see what they can dredge up a jokey story from. Imagine having to keep pumping out "funny" stuff day after day after bloody day. If it's in the news (or even the gossip columns), it's worth mining.

by Anonymousreply 66March 14, 2024 6:24 PM

Why would Kate and William's friends be shocked by a missing wedding ring? Surely if all the American trash "media" knows that William has been having an affair for at least five years then Kate and William's friends would know too, so why would the fact she's not wearing her wedding ring be shocking to them?

by Anonymousreply 67March 14, 2024 6:31 PM

Hanbury married into the aristocracy right? I wonder what her appeal is - she must have some kind of charisma.

by Anonymousreply 68March 14, 2024 6:33 PM

SHOCKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SHOCKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SHOCKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SHOCKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Anonymousreply 69March 14, 2024 6:34 PM

I’m shocked I tell you!

by Anonymousreply 70March 14, 2024 6:37 PM

I'm baffled by the immensity of the Kate story. I could ignore the tabloids, but it's shown up on serious news, too. All pics are photoshopped these days, who gives a fuck. And she's been seen the last few days, so the conspiracy theories don't even have a thin basis.

Whatever.

by Anonymousreply 71March 14, 2024 6:40 PM

[quote]And a five-year long affair that no one in the UK has heard of, and even Giles Coren said he made it up but lots of American trash "media" claim to know all about!

Speaking as a Brit, I've heard of it because there was a strange period when the tabloids were running stories like that Kate and Rose had had a bust up. It was like they were trying to tell you without telling you. Those rumours had been running already when Giles Coren tweeted 'everyone knows about the affair'. My suspicion is that he rowed back because it would be considered libellous (no hard proof of them fucking, after all). The UK has fairly strict libel laws.

And American media only picked it up after all that had happened....

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by Anonymousreply 72March 14, 2024 6:40 PM

I need a closer picture of Lady Iris Marina to see how much she resembles her alleged grandmother. She does have the height.

by Anonymousreply 73March 14, 2024 6:44 PM

IT'S JUST ALL SO SHOCKING!!!

by Anonymousreply 74March 14, 2024 6:47 PM

[quote] I'm baffled by the immensity of the Kate story

It’s not really the Kate story.

It’s the Meghan story.

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by Anonymousreply 75March 14, 2024 6:48 PM

I'm not sure how much poor R64 can take.

by Anonymousreply 76March 14, 2024 6:50 PM

For you, R71. Read and learn. It's not just about you. The media's own credibility is at stake.

[bold]Like North Korea, Royals No Longer ‘Trusted Source’ After Kate Photo[/bold]

Agence France-Presse (AFP) says it no longer considers Kensington Palace a “trusted source” after the truly bizarre case of the Mother’s Day photo which Kate Middleton apologized for editing this week.

Phil Chetwynd, AFP’s global news director, told BBC radio Wednesday about how his agency and others tried to get the palace to provide the original image to establish the extent to which the image had been edited. When they received no reply, they issued “kill” notices informing editors not to publish the doctored photo—a move which Chetwynd says has been more typically associated with images from the regimes of Iran and North Korea rather than the British Royal Family.

The image from Kensington Palace sent social media into meltdown when it was published over the weekend. It’s release was reportedly partly intended to firefight the conflagration of conspiracy theories and speculation sweeping across cyberspace about the princess’ health following her surgery in January. Instead, it poured gasoline on the flames.

“Like many amateur photographers, I do occasionally experiment with editing,” read a statement from Kate on Monday. “I wanted to express my apologies for any confusion the family photograph we shared yesterday caused. I hope everyone celebrating had a very happy Mother’s Day.”

Speaking on The Media Show, Chetwynd said AFP would previously treat Kensington Palace as a reliable source of images. He said that the offending photograph—which showed the Prince of Wales with her children, but contained several conspicuous anomalies that indicated editing—“clearly violated our rules” and it was a mistake for news agencies, including his own, to have initially cleared it for publication.

“It’s actually not even very well photoshopped,” Chetwynd said. “[There were] clearly a lot of problems with the photo, so it shouldn’t have been validated. I think as soon as it was, all the photo editors at all the major agencies immediately saw there was a problem and got together and spoke about it and [said] ‘what do we do?’”

Asked on the show if Kensington Palace is “still a trusted source” for AFP, Chetwynd answered bluntly: “No, absolutely not.” “Like with anything, when you’re let down by a source, the bar is raised,” he added.

Chetwynd did concede that the saga highlighted “major issues internally as to how we validated that photo” despite its clear violation of standards. “We have sent out notes to all our team at the moment to be absolutely super-more vigilant about the content coming across our desk, even from what we would call trusted sources,” he said.

Asked if he thought it would be helpful for Kensington Palace to release the original image so that the extent of the edits could be made clear, Chetwynd said: “That’s what we asked for.” “Before we killed the photo, we all sent a message saying: ‘Could you give us the originals? Could you, you know, have a reply?’ We didn’t get a reply, so that’s why we killed the photo.”

“It’s a big deal for an agency to issue a kill,” he went on, adding that a kill specifically “on the basis of manipulation” might only come around once a year. “Previous kills we’ve had have been from, you know, the North Korean news agency or the Iranian news agency, just to give you some background or context,” Chetwynd added.

“You cannot be distorting reality for the public,” he said, speaking generally about how much editing should be permitted for photos that are then published by the media. “There’s a question of trust. The big issue here is one of trust and the lack of trust—or the falling trust—of the general public in institutions generally and in the media. And so it’s extremely important that a photo does represent, broadly, the reality that [it was taken in], and therefore it is not, in a sense, telling some kind of lie or some kind of false truth around an event that happens.”

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by Anonymousreply 77March 14, 2024 6:51 PM

This is what Giles Coren tweeted. It was a reply to someone and it doesn't sound like a joke so, if he made it up, why?

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by Anonymousreply 78March 14, 2024 6:53 PM

[QUOTE]This really speaks to his personality, and what kind of leader he would be. As does the rumored affair.

I would like to know how a rumored affair affects the kind of leader he will be. You may be young or naive but history is full of good, consequential leaders, men who exercised actual power, who have had mistresses aplenty.

by Anonymousreply 79March 14, 2024 6:55 PM

The story is not really about the photo.

It’s about the nature of immense fame and privilege. Does someone in the position of the Princess of Wales, who has a press office and presents a curated image to the public in order to preserve her privilege, have the right to simply withdraw from public view, while offering only the barest outline of a reason?

The fact that she responded to the pressures of those who said “No.” with a potentially deceptive photo accelerated the story

by Anonymousreply 80March 14, 2024 6:55 PM

This quote from the Daily Beast article at R77 sums up this situation perfectly:

[bold]“You cannot be distorting reality for the public,” he said, speaking generally about how much editing should be permitted for photos that are then published by the media. “There’s a question of trust. The big issue here is one of trust and the lack of trust—or the falling trust—of the general public in institutions generally and in the media. And so it’s extremely important that a photo does represent, broadly, the reality that it was taken in, and therefore it is not, in a sense, telling some kind of lie or some kind of false truth around an event that happens.”[/bold]

by Anonymousreply 81March 14, 2024 6:59 PM

Would we be seeing this uproar if it were just another Mother’s Day family photo and the Princess were not in mysterious seclusion?

I think not. The manipulation and silence are especially significant under these circumstances.

by Anonymousreply 82March 14, 2024 7:03 PM

R78, Giles Goren took the tweet down the next morning stating that he tweeted drunk and that it was a stupid joke and not true at all. Which Giles Goren tweet are we supposed to believe? I checked his YT page and not a word yet about this so-called scandal. Now would be a good time for him to explain that drunken tweet since he is the one who caused this rumor to take off in the first place.

A drunken tweet followed by a quick denial does not make him a trustworthy source.

by Anonymousreply 83March 14, 2024 7:07 PM

I think this story is about people finally waking up to the fact that the palace has been crafting a somewhat false narrative about any number of things. I think most media outlets did a wink and nod for access, but now can no longer do that. Everything they say, everything they said, the false stories they've leaked over the years to kill other stories. The chickens have come home to roost. And it's all on William and Kate, not Charles and Camilla. Actually, Charles and Camilla are the big winners here, they did the right thing.

by Anonymousreply 84March 14, 2024 7:08 PM

But are you SHOCKED, R84?????

by Anonymousreply 85March 14, 2024 7:09 PM

I’ll add my two cents. Before the affair story broke, I was seeing someone who had a connection to Kate’s family, specifically someone close to her brother James. We broke up because of a bunch of reasons, so I haven’t gotten any new info (it’s been years). He told me back then that word was Kate and William were having trouble and their marriage hit a rough patch. I posted such on DL, and boy, did people rake me over the coals. Lots of insults. Then the affair story broke. I never got any info on what the rough patch was about, but this was about a month before the stories broke. And that’s my two cents (worth about that probably).

by Anonymousreply 86March 14, 2024 7:10 PM

SHOCKING!!!

by Anonymousreply 87March 14, 2024 7:11 PM

Thank you r86. That was valuable.

by Anonymousreply 88March 14, 2024 7:13 PM

[quote]But are you SHOCKED, [R84]?????

What I'm SHOCKED about is that William has totally left Kate to hang alone.

William: "My name is Bennett and I ain't in it. "

by Anonymousreply 89March 14, 2024 7:17 PM

[quote]Rose Hanbury reminds me of Anne Boleyn, for some reason.

More like Anne of Cleves.

by Anonymousreply 90March 14, 2024 7:18 PM

R86, With respect an anonymous anecdote on a forum doesn't carry much weight. I could claim to be a close personal friend of William's best friend and come up with a story too. Also, most couples go through a rough patch or more in their marriage, it doesn't mean an affair.

by Anonymousreply 91March 14, 2024 7:18 PM

[quote] William has totally left Kate to hang alone.

You know for a fact that's what he's done, R89?

by Anonymousreply 92March 14, 2024 7:20 PM

That's exactly what he's done R92. Where is his apology or statement of support or Kate?

by Anonymousreply 93March 14, 2024 7:22 PM

Have you heard him defend her, r92?

by Anonymousreply 94March 14, 2024 7:23 PM

So you were there, R93. And to whom should he be apologizing and issuing a statement to?

by Anonymousreply 95March 14, 2024 7:23 PM

Defend her from what, R94?

by Anonymousreply 96March 14, 2024 7:24 PM

Well, allegedly he is the photographer.

by Anonymousreply 97March 14, 2024 7:24 PM

Allegedly!

SHOCKING!!!

by Anonymousreply 98March 14, 2024 7:25 PM

R91, very true, you don’t have to believe anything posted on an anonymous internet board, but I posted this a month before the stories about the rift broke. It’s the only real gossip I ever posted here. And you’re right, I never got any more detail about what the rough patch was about (maybe they disagreed on floral patterns for the royal china).

by Anonymousreply 99March 14, 2024 7:25 PM

[quote] Defend her from what, R94?

OH MY GOD, R96.

Are you really that fucking dumb???

I understand you Klan Grannies defending William and Kate until the bitter end, but if you cannot see that William has taken no accountability in any of this mess, then you are seriously deranged.

by Anonymousreply 100March 14, 2024 7:26 PM

Ah, here it comes--Miss R100 resorting to the KG retort. So you know nothing but your own speculation and you're Team Markle, Got it, MARY.

by Anonymousreply 101March 14, 2024 7:28 PM

That's rich calling anyone else seriously deranged when you're all over all this royal bullshit, R100.

SHOCKING!!!!!!!!!!!

by Anonymousreply 102March 14, 2024 7:29 PM

R99, when was this? You should be able to find the thread in your history.

by Anonymousreply 103March 14, 2024 7:32 PM

[quote] Is there a bastard child?

[quote] How old? !

[quote] —Charlotte

Why, what do you have planned, Charlotte/R40?

by Anonymousreply 104March 14, 2024 7:37 PM

I think if William had an affair, he had it and it ended a few years ago. I think they are fine now. Solid. As for the absence of her ring, I know when my mother had surgery in the hospital, they made her take off all her jewelry. It's possible Kate just never put it back on. The Engagement ring is a huge inconvenience if you're gardening or working in the kitchen, etc I guess I'm saying that I don't read any significance out of the absence of her rings. She is convalescing, no public appearances, etc. As for William, if things were in crisis either with the marriage or the health issues we'd know. WIlliam is not very good at artifice. I've seen him doing his public stuff and he is very relaxed and in a good mood. Nothing stiff or tense or abrupt about him.

by Anonymousreply 105March 14, 2024 7:41 PM

R103, how would I do that? I think this was early 2019, I didn’t think there was a way to see what I posted back then.

by Anonymousreply 106March 14, 2024 7:43 PM

WHY would you do that, R106? To prove something to a bunch of anonymous bitches?

by Anonymousreply 107March 14, 2024 7:51 PM

Yeah, no way do I keep threads I posted on FIVE years ago on my thread watch.

by Anonymousreply 108March 14, 2024 7:55 PM

[quote] Where there's smoke, there's fire. He's fucking her, everyone knows he's fucking her, and they have spent all of this time trying to pretend like he's not fucking her. I know the stans need to believe in the idea of some fairy tale perfect marriage, but that's not life.

I think r25 was involved in the JFK plot. I’ve got no evidence of it whatsoever, but I read it somewhere (a few words ago) so it is probably true.

by Anonymousreply 109March 14, 2024 7:55 PM

Planned? What makes you ask such a silly question? I’m just a child.

by Anonymousreply 110March 14, 2024 7:56 PM

FWIW, I recall r99's post.

by Anonymousreply 111March 14, 2024 8:04 PM

[quote]I think if William had an affair, he had it and it ended a few years ago. I think they are fine now. Solid.

This is just sad. So sad.

by Anonymousreply 112March 14, 2024 8:05 PM

R107, i have no interest in digging thru DL to try and find that post. R103 said I should be able to find it easily. It was a long time ago, I don’t even remember the thread it was on.

by Anonymousreply 113March 14, 2024 8:27 PM

R113, Well, 111 remembers your post from five years ago (FWIW). Maybe she can dig it up for you since she has such a great memory.

by Anonymousreply 114March 14, 2024 8:33 PM

You can google or search for it, I suppose, but doesn't DL delete threads now and again? (not sure how often)

by Anonymousreply 115March 14, 2024 8:37 PM

Not r111, but I remember reading this too but can’t remember if it was pre Gilles Coren or just afterwards. Anyway, in Dangling Tendrils, but I believe those were all wiped.

by Anonymousreply 116March 14, 2024 8:44 PM

^ it was before, r116. Hah my memory sucks, but I sort of remember the rift between Kate and Rose Hanbury happening about a month later, then the rumors of the affair. Anyway, it was five years ago, but that’s how I remember it.

by Anonymousreply 117March 14, 2024 8:58 PM

Pippa named her youngest daughter Rose, which would be an odd thing if this rumor was true.

by Anonymousreply 118March 14, 2024 9:39 PM

It’s utterly absurd that anyone gives any credence to comments by Giles Coren, a man best known for writing articles fat-shaming his son and discussing a “romantic” holiday he took with his daughter. He’s a big-mouth, who writes abusive emails to his own colleagues, and twitter posts celebrating the early death of a woman who (probably correctly) pointed out he would be no-one without his father’s contacts.

by Anonymousreply 119March 14, 2024 9:41 PM

R119, William is cheating. I know that hurts you, but you have to get over it and move on. Do you really think Kate gives a fuck where Will sticks his cock? She gets the crown, regardless.

by Anonymousreply 120March 14, 2024 9:43 PM

[quote] William is cheating. I know that hurts you, but you have to get over it and move on.

Any proof of this, r120, or is it just a fever dream you had?

There is zero proof of an affair and there is ample proof, in his own writing, that anyone who trusts a word out of Coren’s mouth is a fool.

by Anonymousreply 121March 14, 2024 9:47 PM

Based on r119, it sounds like Giles Coren would be an excellent topic for a DL thread. Not as sleazy as Dan Wootton, but can hold his own.

by Anonymousreply 122March 14, 2024 9:54 PM

Sorry but the lack of ring is crazy. No matter how relatable and down to earth the image projected this is still a royal portrait and such carelessness about such a crucial detail is extremely confusing.

Especially given the fact that the picture was admittedly photoshopped.

If she was too bloated or whatever to wear the ring they could have photoshopped it in, in addition to the numerous other alterations made.

I would assume that this photo like any royal communication, passed a few layers of review.

Whether or not kate was sending a message, the fact that nobody caught this and allowed it to be posted indicates that the royal or team is not competent at their job

Elizabeth the first would never.

by Anonymousreply 123March 14, 2024 9:58 PM

[quote] If she was too bloated or whatever to wear the ring they could have photoshopped it in, in addition to the numerous other alterations made.

Yes, the addition of more photoshopping would have been a great help.

[quote] Elizabeth the first would never.

True -Elizabeth the First never had any problems with social media.

by Anonymousreply 124March 14, 2024 10:03 PM

Elizabeth the first knew exactly how to use the image making technology at her disposal to consolidate power and support for herself and her empire. She would never have neglected to include the symbolism of a wedding ring in a portrait of a royal wife

by Anonymousreply 125March 14, 2024 10:12 PM

Oh Piratejenny1, seeing as there was no electricity back then, Elizabeth the first didn’t take advantage of any image making technology.

by Anonymousreply 126March 14, 2024 10:17 PM

Technology isn't electricity you idiot. The printing press was technology.

by Anonymousreply 127March 14, 2024 10:18 PM

Oh Piratejenny1, you are intimately familiar with idiocy.

by Anonymousreply 128March 14, 2024 10:22 PM

R125, If Kate's fingers are swollen then she can't wear her rings. What do you want her to do, force them onto her swollen fingers? She's recovering from surgery, maybe she didn't think about it and just wanted to take a photo when her kids were ready for the shot.

by Anonymousreply 129March 14, 2024 10:23 PM

R128 I'm an idiot for suggesting that a wildly powerful and important political and social institution should closely vet their official communications for details like a missing wedding ring on the future queens hand?

Presumably they are trying to quash gossip of the kind we are participating in right now, rather than fan the flames.

by Anonymousreply 130March 14, 2024 10:32 PM

R125, Elizabeth the First never married so she was never a royal wife. She was, however, a Queen and didn't need rings to impress her subjects. Also, royals were rarely seen in print back then, just in portraits for private viewing for family, friends, and other members of the aristocracy.

Printing press, my ass.

by Anonymousreply 131March 14, 2024 10:33 PM

[quote] Sorry but the lack of ring is crazy.

It's not only that, R123, IT'S SHOCKING!!!!!!!!

by Anonymousreply 132March 14, 2024 10:38 PM

Oh Piratejenny1, you’re an idiot because… well, read r131, it sums it up thoroughly. Elizabeth the first died over 400 years ago.

by Anonymousreply 133March 14, 2024 10:38 PM

I like to give Piratejenny1 the benefit of the doubt. He/she/they may not be an idiot. He/she/they may simply be wilfully obtuse.

by Anonymousreply 134March 14, 2024 10:45 PM

Royalass fraus react to photo of Meghan Markle without her wedding ring...

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by Anonymousreply 135March 14, 2024 11:09 PM

I would only be SHOCKING!!!!!!! if it happened to the Harkles You hypocritical Klan Grans are comedy gold.

by Anonymousreply 136March 14, 2024 11:18 PM

My point about Queen Elizabeth is that she was an expert in the use of image in shaping public perception.

This is not some provocative hot take . It's covered in most art history classes and certainly any biography of the queen is going to talk about how carefully considered her portraits were and how relentlessly reproduced her image was on cards coins buttons and leaflets to reinforce herself as a near godlike figure.

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by Anonymousreply 137March 14, 2024 11:34 PM

I mean this with all due respect, r137, but…who the fuck cares? She died 400 years ago.

by Anonymousreply 138March 14, 2024 11:40 PM

My theory:

The affair rumours have been swirling for about four years now and may very well be true. But I don't think this is why Kate is missing. I think she's genuinely sick and they're telling the truth when they say she was hospitalised.

Kate has had an eating disorder for about twenty years. I know DL insists she doesn't have one, but women with three children generally don't look like that in their forties. DL has completely unrealistic expectations of women's bodies. I've seen women who look as though they have a BMI of about 19 described as "chubby" on here. In fact, I remember a post on DL unironically saying Kate looked "a bit fat" at Harry and Meghan's wedding.

The eating disorder has taken its toll on Kate's body, and she is/was quite possibly extremely ill. It wouldn't shock me if the rumours that she was in a coma were true. I can't think of any other reason the palace would have released that manipulated photo unless they were trying to portray her as being healthier than she actually is. They also clearly staged that paparazzi shot to show that she was alive without having to show her face. They know that if the public see her up-close, they'll realise she's very unwell.

by Anonymousreply 139March 14, 2024 11:44 PM

R139, that’s as apt an explanation as I’ve seen.

by Anonymousreply 140March 14, 2024 11:46 PM

U.S. Media: Rumors of a Royal Affair, and Why It's Bad for Biden.

by Anonymousreply 141March 15, 2024 12:05 AM

She's dying or divorcing

by Anonymousreply 142March 15, 2024 12:07 AM

I hate Will as much as I hate his frau, but I hope he’s kicking this useless bitch to the curb.

by Anonymousreply 143March 15, 2024 12:09 AM

When Lord Cholmondeley was still David Rocksavage, he was known as David RockSausage.

Totally gay gay gay,

by Anonymousreply 144March 15, 2024 12:17 AM

Maybe David is the one pegging William 😮😬😮😬!

by Anonymousreply 145March 15, 2024 12:19 AM

Eating disorder or intestinal disorder causing weight loss?

by Anonymousreply 146March 15, 2024 12:21 AM

Obviously since Lilibet died the "Grey Men" who fashioned her image ( she never put a foot wrong in public) have either died or retired. The current lot appear to be amateurs who can not even proof a photo much less craft a modern media image. Willy needs to sack the lot of them.

by Anonymousreply 147March 15, 2024 12:40 AM

Liz had quite a few PR missteps. It's only because she's dead that people forget that.

by Anonymousreply 148March 15, 2024 1:07 AM

Kate is thin but she's not so thin that she fell into a god damn coma. Some of you sound insane.

by Anonymousreply 149March 15, 2024 1:08 AM

r137, you couldn't find someone more recent to use as an example? You had to go back several hundred years to make your point. Your argument goes down in flames for that alone.

by Anonymousreply 150March 15, 2024 1:31 AM

What about this.

She needed surgery but she was too thin for the surgery to be safe. Doctors demanded she gain some wait before the surgery. So she dips out of view to put in 20-30 lbs, has the surgery then doesn't come back out in public until she's trim again

by Anonymousreply 151March 15, 2024 1:32 AM

R148, True, the whole family has made serious errors in judgment over the years. A photoshopped photo of a sick princess without her wedding ring isn't that big a deal in comparison.

by Anonymousreply 152March 15, 2024 1:40 AM

I also heard--just backing up R86--from someone who worked on one of William's "films" that he was very...close to a female production team member.

by Anonymousreply 153March 15, 2024 1:45 AM

^ My sides

by Anonymousreply 154March 15, 2024 2:16 AM

R147, maybe that's the problem. Charles sacked a lot of people when "Mummy" died.IMO, the shit stirring nd rumor mill is coming from insiders. I'm going to hang on to my theory.: Catherine loves kids. I think she was hoping for that "Last hurrah" She was pregnant and something went seriously wrong. She ended up getting a full histerectomy, and was very depressed about it.

by Anonymousreply 155March 15, 2024 2:22 AM

His “films”? What are they - porno, snuff?

by Anonymousreply 156March 15, 2024 2:23 AM

[quote] but lots of American trash "media" claim to know all about!

Hear hear!

by Anonymousreply 157March 15, 2024 2:29 AM

[quote] It's not only that, [R123], IT'S SHOCKING!!!!!!!!

Smell r132 why don’t you — her desperation is palpable!

by Anonymousreply 158March 15, 2024 2:32 AM

R149 - I'm not saying that if she was in a coma, it JUST because of her weight, but I strongly suspect her weight has been a factor in whatever's wrong with her. IMO, if she weren't seriously ill, they would have released a legit photo of her by now.

by Anonymousreply 159March 15, 2024 2:51 AM

R159 Uses CAPS because it makes her appear ALL GROWN UP!

by Anonymousreply 160March 15, 2024 2:53 AM

^I use caps because there's no option for italics on DL, so it's the only way to emphasise a specific word.

by Anonymousreply 161March 15, 2024 3:02 AM

You can do italics but it's cumbersome because you have to write it out in full ( [ italic ] [ / italic ]

by Anonymousreply 162March 15, 2024 3:08 AM

R160, perhaps a couple of martinis might help.

by Anonymousreply 163March 15, 2024 3:09 AM

Had anyone mentioned recently that the original rumor was that William is bi and he and Rose's husband were having the affair?

I'm trying to remember the original journalist who made the claim. Looking at the 2 fellows shaking hands, they have chemistry.

It makes sense that a bisexual affair would scare the palace more, which is why they made certain it was shut down.

by Anonymousreply 164March 15, 2024 3:22 AM

Rose's husband is 60 years old

by Anonymousreply 165March 15, 2024 3:25 AM

[quote] ^I use caps because there's no option for italics on DL, so it's the only way to emphasise a specific word.

Yes there is. [italic]you wanker.[/italic]

by Anonymousreply 166March 15, 2024 3:29 AM

[italic]italic[italic]

by Anonymousreply 167March 15, 2024 3:30 AM

[bold]bold[bold]

by Anonymousreply 168March 15, 2024 3:31 AM

r164, I did a google search and found nothing about that, nor have I ever heard that so=called rumor before. People are really reaching to make these rumors as salacious as possible. Meanwhile, in the real world there is no evidence that William and Rose ever had an affair.

by Anonymousreply 169March 15, 2024 3:38 AM

The thing is, I do miss seeing Kate around. She was starting to represent something larger than herself and doing a good job of it. I can't put it into words, but you understand.

by Anonymousreply 170March 15, 2024 3:50 AM

Can I [bold]bold?

Can I do [italics]italics?

by Anonymousreply 171March 15, 2024 3:52 AM

R139 the Princess of Wales is not anorexic, she’s just not American.

by Anonymousreply 172March 15, 2024 3:53 AM

She looks unwell.

by Anonymousreply 173March 15, 2024 3:54 AM

Can I [bold]bold[/bold]?

Can I do [italic]italic[/italic]?

Did it work?

by Anonymousreply 174March 15, 2024 3:54 AM

Yes seeing Kate around, seeing people happy and supposedly good moral, good mannered, polite, representing dignity, that's nice seeing. I see why the Royal Family exists.

But when they fall from grace, oh boy.

by Anonymousreply 175March 15, 2024 4:07 AM

My favourite fall from grace is still Andrew's car crash BBC interview. That was glorious.

by Anonymousreply 176March 15, 2024 4:42 AM

R100, William cannot make an official statement without going through the palace first. The King and their PR team make the decisions about official responses to the media and public. The Queen rarely responded to speculation and gossip, and usually went with the 'don't explain, don't complain' strategy, and the current BRF may be following suit, especially since Kate's initial response backfired drastically. They could also be taking a wait-and-see approach to see how far the media want to run with this.

by Anonymousreply 177March 15, 2024 4:46 AM

R175 You're joking or off your meds?

by Anonymousreply 178March 15, 2024 4:47 AM

R170 YES! I UNDERSTAND! WE ALL DO !

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by Anonymousreply 179March 15, 2024 4:56 AM

Face it, the Royal Family went to complete shit when the Queen died.

Personally, I am loving the gossip and speculation. It's entertaining.

by Anonymousreply 180March 15, 2024 5:31 AM

The wheels really came off when the Gruesome Twosome made their exit.

by Anonymousreply 181March 15, 2024 5:45 AM

Nah. It’s actually been pretty uneventful. Not like the days when Diana and Fergie were mopping up the headlines.

by Anonymousreply 182March 15, 2024 5:51 AM

[QUOTE]histerectomy

Does this suggest Harry's internal sexual organs have been removed recently?

Hysterical! But the Harkles like to extract a twisted hystory from their various endeavors, don't they?

But I'm very inclined to believe your Freduan slip that the means of Harry's testosterone production has been surgically removed. The behavioral evidence for either surgical or pharmacological removal of his testosterone production is abundantly evident in public interactions with his minder/wife.

by Anonymousreply 183March 15, 2024 6:25 AM

[quote]Princess Kate may have tolerated a mistress, obviously she knew who his father is

Does bestiality run in families?

by Anonymousreply 184March 15, 2024 6:27 AM

I think it's ridiculous to obsess and assume over the absence of a wedding ring. Not every single person showers and sleeps without ever taking off their wedding ring. Her fingers are obviously swollen from steroids or pain medication she's taking.

It's almost the same thing as the ridiculousness with following/unfollowing someone on social media. "If X just started unfollowing Y it must mean they're not friends anymore!" Give me a break.

It's just stupid bullshit like all of those "professional" lip readers and body language "experts" that constantly claim they can tell how two people really feel about each other just by "analyzing" them. The kind of idiots Entertainment Tonight are always consulting.

The Sussex Squad are some of the worst psychotic parasocial freaks I've ever seen right below Trumpers but above Swifties.

by Anonymousreply 185March 15, 2024 6:44 AM

I had recent surgery. I’m still not wearing my wedding ring.

All of this carrying on about a wedding ring is nothing but histrionics.

by Anonymousreply 186March 15, 2024 6:49 AM

Her face and fingers don't look bloated in that picture. I think it's an old picture.

by Anonymousreply 187March 15, 2024 6:51 AM

One absolute truth which this situation has demonstrated is that Kate and William are now already at the absolute pinnacle of the monarchy. Essentially, she has taken a few months of sick leave, and social media has lost its mind over her absence. She had an affair! He had an affair! Her/his affair partner shot himself! She’s anorexic! She had a miscarriage! She’s pregnant! He left her! She left him! She’s in a coma! She’s dead! She’s an imposter!

Meanwhile, in the real world, we know absolute nothing of the reality of the situation because neither William nor Kate have allowed themselves to be bullied into reacting to all of the nonsense surrounding them. They have stuck to their original statement that she will be absent from public life until Easter.

If she reappears at Easter (I’d bet on the Sandringham church walk), all of this nonsense will ebb away in minutes.

by Anonymousreply 188March 15, 2024 6:51 AM

R188 Well done!

by Anonymousreply 189March 15, 2024 6:55 AM

She had a serious procedure. Regardless of the fact it's something other people have gone through. It should remain private. Famous or not.

However people aren't satisfied with such a simple ordinary plain explanation. They want something salacious. Something they can gossip about.

So they make up their own psychotic little fantasies and spread them around hoping they can get other people to believe them.

The Sussex Squad despise her so much that they want her secretly dead or secretly in a coma as a result of William supposedly beating her senseless or to death.

For a group of people whose "queen" is "alive, thriving and living her best life" apparently that isn't enough to help them sleep at night. They're a deranged group of people.

by Anonymousreply 190March 15, 2024 7:51 AM

[quote] All pics are photoshopped these days, who gives a fuck.

Not all pictures; but fine. No problem. Just don’t then expect people to take whatever it is you say or show them as literal truth. It’s a matter of credibility.

by Anonymousreply 191March 15, 2024 9:11 AM

[quote]who gives a fuck

Kate gave a fuck enough when caught out to issue a public apology.

by Anonymousreply 192March 15, 2024 9:25 AM

Because the photo was obviously overdone, r192. But the general public really do not give a fuck that she messed up the photoshop.

by Anonymousreply 193March 15, 2024 9:48 AM

She's probably lost weight post surgery (not that she had much to lose) and her rings are a bit loose so she took them off, rather than have them fall off and risk losing them.

If she's not leaving the house putting on rings seems pointless anyway because who's going to see them?

by Anonymousreply 194March 15, 2024 9:51 AM

[quote] neither William nor Kate have allowed themselves to be bullied into reacting to all of the nonsense surrounding them

You mean, like putting out a fake photoshopped picture and sending it to the news media to prove that she's "healthy," because the public demanded it?

And then having to apologize to the world and the international media, for intentionally misleading them and jeopardizing all of their credibility?

I'd say that's pretty reactionary.

by Anonymousreply 195March 15, 2024 10:06 AM

R194 yes, that was exactly my first thought about the missing ring.

by Anonymousreply 196March 15, 2024 10:15 AM

When did William have anything to do with a film, let alone films?

by Anonymousreply 197March 15, 2024 11:53 AM

Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; no discernible minds say things like is she dead yet?

by Anonymousreply 198March 15, 2024 11:54 AM

[quote]When did William have anything to do with a film...?

As I recall, he fronted a TV documentary about mental health issues in young people.

by Anonymousreply 199March 15, 2024 12:12 PM

R79 = Trump

by Anonymousreply 200March 15, 2024 12:16 PM

It's likely the rings don't fit at present because she's lost weight since the surgery. Perfectly usual.

People are claiming the photo was retouched. No one (sensible) is claiming the whole thing is fake. So why pose for a family photo when you're getting a divorce? What purpose could it serve in the long term? It's silly rubbish.

by Anonymousreply 201March 15, 2024 12:20 PM

[quote][R79] = Trump

And it's true!

by Anonymousreply 202March 15, 2024 12:20 PM

On the conjured premise that a divorce is any possibility: the photo says, my kids mean the absolute world to me, including he who is the future King. Unlike the person who took the photo (and its variants).

The photo is of uncertain date, taken at a less unhappy time. It served as a would-be stop-gap to cheer up their devoted public on Mother's Day. Anyone projecting divorce could believe Kate also allowed the image for the above reasons.

by Anonymousreply 203March 15, 2024 12:45 PM

[quote] [R139] the Princess of Wales is not anorexic, she’s just not American.

You mean like Meghan, who’s both thinner and better looking?

by Anonymousreply 204March 15, 2024 12:48 PM

^ Because we know D*I*V*O*R*C*E is not a remote possibility in that exalted family.😂

by Anonymousreply 205March 15, 2024 12:49 PM

I always understood from the biographies that William took his time about proposing to Kate precisely because of the chaos of his parents' marriage and his desire not to repeat history and that he was significantly influenced by the stability of the Middleton family. Anything is possible but if we're compelled to hear the argument that he's so posh affairs are second nature, conversely it's reasonable to argue he learned from his parents' mistakes and is strong willed enough to succeed at not doing the same. It's a laughable notion that a photo was put out to buy short term benefit from a divorcing couple. The photo wasn't the first problem since her surgery. It's unlikely they'd court accusations of obfuscation and deception in the long term over something as explosive as divorce.

by Anonymousreply 206March 15, 2024 12:51 PM

[quote]You mean like Meghan, who’s both thinner and better looking?

Pretty sure the post was about Meghan Markle, so no, not like Meghan.

by Anonymousreply 207March 15, 2024 12:52 PM

R185, OT, but seriously? Dumpers are the worst scourge on the planet. Neither the “Sussex Squad” nor (especially) the “Swifties” can match their level of complete and utterly depraved lunacy.

by Anonymousreply 208March 15, 2024 12:58 PM

R206, if William cheats, I think you only need to look at his parents (who both cheated). I don’t think it’s necessarily some feeling of entitlement, or because he’s posh and it’s expected. Kids often mimic their parents, even when they are tying to not be like them. Kids of alcoholics tend to be alcoholics, etc.

I do think you’re right, he seems close to the Middletons, and I also believe this is not an issue of divorce but serious illness.

by Anonymousreply 209March 15, 2024 1:03 PM

R195, it's a bloody photo, are you that insane that you are losing your shit over an edited photo of four people who still look like themselves. It's not like she put someone else's head on her shoulders and pretended it was her. It is common practice to edit personal photos on social media and in magazines, celebrities and noncelebrities do it and we all know it. The general public's reaction to this has been a big 'Who the F cares'? The media are making this a huge issue because they're angry that Catherine hasn't told them what's wrong with her. They are vindictive hypocrites who are bullying a woman recovering from serious surgery., and the royals are not giving in to their nonsense.

Kate was the one who issued the apology, against PR advice. She thought she was doing the right thing but if she is taking medications then her judgment may be off. The rest of the Firm has not responded at all.

by Anonymousreply 210March 15, 2024 3:52 PM

Betcha it's a GI issue. She had something done to her colon. That's why it's taking so long.

by Anonymousreply 211March 15, 2024 4:12 PM

R210, didn’t she put a photo of herself from years ago in the pic?

by Anonymousreply 212March 15, 2024 4:30 PM

[quote] The general public's reaction to this has been a big 'Who the F cares'?

Based on how often you’ve posted in this thread I think the answer is “you.”

by Anonymousreply 213March 15, 2024 4:36 PM

After reading through these last responses, I have to wonder just what is it about William and Kate that brings out such rabid crazy and hatred towards others? Just the vile and filth they spill. My goodness.

by Anonymousreply 214March 15, 2024 4:42 PM

It always makes me laugh when people comment 'who cares' or 'nobody cares!' Most often found in DM comments - hello, here you are following the story and commenting on it.

by Anonymousreply 215March 15, 2024 4:51 PM

R215, In this case, they don't care about the photo edit, they care about the fake outrage by the media. That's why most people are reacting. I just checked the Daily Fail and there was only one story about this and it was a sympathetic piece about Kate, so maybe the media are getting the message that most people don't care about the edited photo. I haven't checked elsewhere though, so maybe there are other media outlets still up in arms about a photo when the world is going to shit around them.

by Anonymousreply 216March 15, 2024 5:05 PM

R216, I would say that you’re right about one thing: there is no “outrage” about the photo. People aren’t at all indignant. The conversation I’ve seen revolves on the motive for doing it, and what is going on with Kate that would make the palace issue a photoshopped picture.

by Anonymousreply 217March 15, 2024 5:20 PM

R212, These experts don't mention that, they think she got overzealous during the editing stage and messed it up.

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by Anonymousreply 218March 15, 2024 5:20 PM

Mommy? Why didn’t you fix my teeth?

by Anonymousreply 219March 15, 2024 5:22 PM

[quote]A source tells US Weekly her senior staffers have not been able to speak with Kate Middleton in weeks. None of them knew about “surgery

👀😯🤷‍♂️

by Anonymousreply 220March 15, 2024 5:23 PM

Sounds like Kate ghosted her own staff.

Rofl!!

It's looking more and more like a divorce.

by Anonymousreply 221March 15, 2024 7:21 PM

[quote]You mean, like putting out a fake photoshopped picture and sending it to the news media to prove that she's "healthy," because the public demanded it?

The photo was for Mother’s Day, like EVERY year. And it could’ve been taken at another time (except for Louis’s missing tooth) because they’ve done that as well for Christmas cards. The mistake was it coincided with the hysteria over her health (despite the palace informing all and sundry that there would be no updates until Easter) so it was scrutinized heavily and then a dramatic KILL!! order goes out. Then Kate issues a statement because like a lot of people nowadays, she composes the best photo of the all the ones taken. And suddenly it’s an international crisis.

by Anonymousreply 222March 15, 2024 8:00 PM

So apprently, Kate hasn't seen or talked to her staff in months.

Everything in this strange chain of events points to Kate trying to leave.

The abrupt disappearance on December 28.

The announcement that she wouldn't be seen again until Easter.

The total non-communication with her staff.

The bizarre photoshopped photo release that is very unlike Kate.

Then the immediate "apology" from Kate for the photoshop fiasco.

William not showing up to his Godfather's funeral service.

Then the strange photo of William and Kate in a car, where she's looking away from him.

And of course, she stopped wearing her ring.

William hasn't said a word.

Kensington Palace has barely said a word.

The only official statements have come from Kate, even though we haven't seen her or heard from her in months.

The whole thing is completely bizarre, and I think it hints at a major crisis in the House of Wales.

by Anonymousreply 223March 15, 2024 9:07 PM

You’re obviously heavily invested in all this, R223. Why does it affect you personally?

by Anonymousreply 224March 15, 2024 9:57 PM

After reading through these last responses, I have to wonder just what is it about William and Kate that brings out such rabid crazy and hatred towards others? Just the vile and filth they spill. My goodness.

^ Posted hundreds of times on the The Sussex's are Demons threads. Royalass Fraus are comedy gold.😂

by Anonymousreply 225March 16, 2024 1:53 AM

THE DEMONS IN HELL WHERE THEY BELONG!!!!!

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by Anonymousreply 226March 16, 2024 2:00 AM

R273, the simple and obvious explanation is that she has been ill, had major surgery and is slowly recuperating in private. The BRF never talk about private matters but they did issue several statements since her surgery about her health. Kate is entitled to her privacy but the media have decided to derail her recuperation because they want a story and they're furious that the BRF won't give them one.

It's not completely bizarre unless you twist everything to make it bizarre in your one-track mind.

by Anonymousreply 227March 16, 2024 2:22 AM

Then maybe the dumbasses shouldn't have put out the faked photo R227. They caused all of this.

by Anonymousreply 228March 16, 2024 2:27 AM

[quote]Those rumours had been running already when Giles Coren tweeted 'everyone knows about the affair'.

Coren is a horrid little nepo-baby cunt, but he wasn't the first to put this rumor out there. That was Nicole Cliffe, whose judgment is BEYOND questionable, and that's putting it nicely. So keep in mind that this rumor was put about by insane people and give it the credence it deserves.

by Anonymousreply 229March 16, 2024 2:30 AM

R217, what are you talking about? That is what Photogate is about... the motive for publishing it. And the public, in general, don't care about the motive, they care that the media are going after Kate over it.

by Anonymousreply 230March 16, 2024 2:33 AM

You people who don't believe in the affair are the most gullible people on the planet.

by Anonymousreply 231March 16, 2024 2:38 AM

Alternatively, R231, people may be rather more sophisticated than you and not see an affair as the end of a marriage.

by Anonymousreply 232March 16, 2024 3:15 AM

Royalass are not gullible. 60 year old grannies needing to believe in fairytales isn't gullible it's bloody pathetic.

by Anonymousreply 233March 16, 2024 3:22 AM

[quote]Alternatively, [R231], people may be rather more sophisticated than you and not see an affair as the end of a marriage.

Who said anything about an affair ending a marriage?

by Anonymousreply 234March 16, 2024 3:25 AM

R231, what proof is there of an affair? I believe in evidence, not rumors started by less-than-credible sources. Gullible people are those who believe in rumors and gossip.

by Anonymousreply 235March 16, 2024 3:26 AM

And ugly people, R235, repeat rumours and gossip because they're malicious.

by Anonymousreply 236March 16, 2024 3:33 AM

Oh stop it r235 and r236. If you don’t like gossip what are you doing on DL?

by Anonymousreply 237March 16, 2024 3:36 AM

DL is a great place for harmless gossip and rumors. The posters pushing the William/Rose affair and calling other posters out because they won't buy into it is not my idea of harmless gossip.

by Anonymousreply 238March 16, 2024 3:44 AM

I will not be upstaged!

by Anonymousreply 239March 16, 2024 3:46 AM

We send our love to the "happy " Cambridges !

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by Anonymousreply 240March 16, 2024 4:21 AM

R229 Popbitch said that "rural rivals" was Fleet Street's way of hinting that William was having it off with Hanbury........ I don't think it was Coren or Cliffe (who is she even?) who started it. It was those articles in the tabloids about how Kate and Rose had a bust up but notably did not say why.

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by Anonymousreply 241March 16, 2024 4:50 AM

[quote] this doesn't necessarily disprove the "she's dead" theory

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by Anonymousreply 242March 16, 2024 4:54 AM

What I want to know is what the FUCK kind of surgery takes this long to recover from? People recover from sex reassignment surgery faster than this.

by Anonymousreply 243March 16, 2024 5:07 AM

R243 Likely her surgery doesn't require this long recovery time but she just wants to take a long break. It's reported that even William's nickname for her is Duchess of Doolittle.

by Anonymousreply 244March 16, 2024 5:11 AM

R244, reported by who?

by Anonymousreply 245March 16, 2024 5:15 AM

According to reports, even Queen Elizabeth had to pull Kate aside and tell her to step her pussy up because she wasn't doing enough.

by Anonymousreply 246March 16, 2024 5:18 AM

According to reports, Queen Elizabeth realized that her own workload had an adverse effect on her relationship with her first two children and therefore decided that William and Kate should focus on raising their own children while they were young.

by Anonymousreply 247March 16, 2024 5:33 AM

Bullshit, R247. If that were true, why was Sophie forced to take a more prominent role despite having 2 young children with developmental issues?

by Anonymousreply 248March 16, 2024 5:52 AM

Edward and Sophie's children do not have developmental issues.

by Anonymousreply 249March 16, 2024 6:05 AM

Moms don’t work in rich families. Isn’t that understood? My mother didn’t work back in the 80s and 90s and we weren’t rich. It’s better for the kids to have one parent at home, whether it’s a mother or father.

by Anonymousreply 250March 16, 2024 6:23 AM

R248, There has never been any suggestion that Sophie was forced to do anything, where did you get that idea from?

by Anonymousreply 251March 16, 2024 6:27 AM

^^ pulled it out of his arse like most of the fantasists on these threads, most likely.

by Anonymousreply 252March 16, 2024 7:12 AM

r251 r252

by Anonymousreply 253March 16, 2024 1:30 PM

R241, that’s what I thought too. Those rival stories predated the affair stories. Thats why people weren’t surprised when Coren posted his social media post. And I think he was forced to take it down and say he was joking. It certainly didn’t read like a joke, it was his response to the whole rift story.

by Anonymousreply 254March 16, 2024 1:32 PM

R254, Most people were surprised. Why would you make such a general sweeping statement like that.

by Anonymousreply 255March 16, 2024 2:00 PM

As we are about to enter week 2 of Fake Kate Gate, social media is buzzing about something dropping soon. Probably a full confession that she was badly ill. They probably have to do something to stop their ratings from dropping.

by Anonymousreply 256March 16, 2024 2:07 PM

A friend has been living in the UK, in London for 8 years. He says no one is very fond of William. Everyone adores Catherine and the kids, and t hat he definitely had an affair. When I asked how they could speak on it with such certainty, he rolled his eyes, and just said, "People know. It's common gossip."

by Anonymousreply 257March 16, 2024 2:12 PM

Jesus Christ. The Palace has done everything it could to let people know, [italic]sotto voce[/italic], Kate had to have surgery for Crohn's or colitis or something similar, which is a major surgery requiring weeks of bedrest and recuperation. Some surgery situations use a two-operation approach, about two weeks apart. These situations often require a reversible colostomy to allow healing.

Stress affects these kinds of issues, and the stress the woman has been under has been harsh. The constant cunting and parasitic shit from her brother-in-law and his poxy maniac wife is a kind of stalking, as they mirror activities and insert their insipid business activities into any major dates on the Royal Family's calendar. No wonder the Princess of Wales needed a break, and too bad they Waleses and the Palace have been so naive and incompetent about her.

It's also time for the Palace to come clean about Charles's diagnosis and prognosis.

by Anonymousreply 258March 16, 2024 2:15 PM

The Doolittle thing might need to be reassessed. Maybe her health condition has prevented her from executing a packed schedule.

Has Rose been seen out and about? It would be hard to hide a bump where your pre-pregnancy weight is 87 pounds and you’ve already had twins.

by Anonymousreply 259March 16, 2024 2:17 PM

Everyone of my friends and relatives in UK under 60 think the Royals are a joke. If they think of them at all. When I asked them why do you keep them around? They responded ... "Pensioners."

by Anonymousreply 260March 16, 2024 2:22 PM

I think people understood that prior to the photo, R258.

She’s almost two months out from surgery. If she can’t or won’t get her hair washed and sit up for a photo something is wrong.

by Anonymousreply 261March 16, 2024 2:23 PM

R257. I’ve lived in the UK. I don’t think this knowledge is that common. Why are William’s pill numbers favorable if everyone dislikes him?

by Anonymousreply 262March 16, 2024 2:24 PM

[quote]The constant cunting and parasitic shit from her brother-in-law and his poxy maniac wife is a kind of stalking, as they mirror activities and insert their insipid business activities into any major dates on the Royal Family's calendar.

How can people write this kind of shit? Do they actually believe it? Or are they just batshit crazy?

by Anonymousreply 263March 16, 2024 2:36 PM

R257, I lived in London for almost 12 years and have family and friends who live there and we've never heard that. Your friend's only evidence was 'everyone knows, it's gossip' which is laughable. Since when is that proof of anything? As he said it's gossip, and gossip should always be taken with a grain of salt

Richard Kay, a well-known long-time royal reporter has continually stated that the story is fake and the two parties involved (BRF and Rose) were considering taking legal action back in 2019, against Goren and another publication but the story was pulled and they let it go. Suing is a big deal because everything would have come out in court if the affair was true, but they were ready to go to court to stop the rumors.

Rose Hansbury was at the King's coronation as well as other royal events in recent years. That would not happen if she and William were having an affair.

by Anonymousreply 264March 16, 2024 2:40 PM

R257, William is the most popular British royal and has been for several years so your friend knows nothing.

by Anonymousreply 265March 16, 2024 2:42 PM

Due to her husband’s rank and position, I think there is no question that she’d be at the Coronation, state dinners, etc. Pippa naming her daughter Rose is more significant.

by Anonymousreply 266March 16, 2024 2:44 PM

So the never complain, never explain crowd was ready to go to court over an affair rumor? Do you people read what you write? You're not helping your case.

by Anonymousreply 267March 16, 2024 2:45 PM

R266, I don't agree. Her husband may be a required guest but not her.

by Anonymousreply 268March 16, 2024 2:46 PM

Due to her husband’s rank and position,

^ Everything that's fucked up about you Brits.😂

by Anonymousreply 269March 16, 2024 3:10 PM

R255, you think most people weren’t surprised? I think it’s a fair generalization, considering the reaction, that most people were surprised.

by Anonymousreply 270March 16, 2024 3:20 PM

[quote] As we are about to enter week 2 of Fake Kate Gate, social media is buzzing about something dropping soon. Probably a full confession that she was badly ill. They probably have to do something to stop their ratings from dropping.

Well they had better act quickly, because the news stories coming about Kate, are getting worse and worse.

How do you recover from these kinds of news stories?

[bold]Kate Middleton officially hits rock bottom[/bold]

I’m calling it. Datchet High Street. 1.50pm. March 11. We have officially reached what has to be the absolute nadir of Kategate when a brick wall in an otherwise unremarkable British village has become the subject of furious online scrutiny and downright obsession.

The wall in question is in Datchet in Berkshire and the reason that social media has flipped its lid and fallen off into the deep end debating the colour of bricks in said wall is because on Monday afternoon, UK time, Kate the Princess of Wales was photographed passing it as she travelled with husband Prince William to London. (He was off to the Commonwealth Day service at Westminster Abbey, she had a private appointment.)

According to the now veritable army of Sherlock Holmes and Miss Marples who have taken complete control of the social byways, a force armed with nothing more than incipient diagnosable paranoia and the ability to make a TikTok, are adamant that this Kate has been faked thanks to the colour of the wall.

Don’t you know? It’s an old photo of Kate from Christmas, you see. No wait, it’s the Waleses’ Norfolk chum the Marchioness of Cholmondeley who is actually in the car. The Prince and Princess’s marriage is in deep trouble. He’s left her, there was a pregnancy, a breakdown. No, it’s a coma!

Whatever higher power exists, have mercy.

But while the world is losing it, there is still Kate, a woman who has suffered a head-spinning, stunning nosedive from shining royal star to chaos-bringer; from dignified future Queen to global figure of humiliation and mockery.

The Princess the world has known for years – perfect, polished, forever beaming and bearer of adorably chocolate boxy children – has been replaced by a woman who has just been brutally embarrassed, forced to issue the very first public apology of her royal career, and now finds herself in a place where the royal say so will now be doubted for years to come.

For Kate, having spent more than a decade painstakingly building an adored public profile, one hospital wing opening and one plucky Scout outing at a time, all of that has, mind bogglingly, been dashed and lost in less time that it probably takes Prince William to iron his beloved Aston Villa stripe.

It’s not just a question of speed but magnitude too.

In fact, even go back to where it all started for the Prince and Princess of Wales, St Andrews University in 2001, and there has never, ever been a situation such as this where the Princess’s actions have called down such a violent tempest on the royal family or debased the wholesale level of trust in them as an institution.

This is all horrible and all new, for us and for the Waleses. Somehow the couple has managed to violently disturb the royal equilibrium and order of things.

What. The. Hell. Has. Happened?

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by Anonymousreply 271March 16, 2024 4:32 PM

For years now royal scripts have been flipped with unnerving regularity but the perpetrators have tended to be spare one and spare two – Prince Andrew the Duke of York and Prince Harry the Duke of Sussex. But this time, it’s the princess who has found herself stuck on the Buckingham Palace scolding stool.

The question that no one can or will answer is, how have William and Kate gotten this all so dashed wrong? And so very badly wrong?

We’ve had, in drumbeat succession, King Constatinegate (what was really behind William’s withdrawal from his godfather’s memorial service 46 minutes before it began?); Papgate (when a lone snapper managed to get a photo of Kate in a car with her mother, a shot the UK press decided not to publish); Picturegate (the Waleses’ releasing a new image of Kate and their three children only for the world’s major picture agencies to issue kill notices); Apologygate (after Kate took the complete blame for “experimenting” with the editing, a mea culpa that answered no real questions and only inflamed the situation); and now, Wallgate.

How many “gates” can William and Kate clock up and still find time to make a 9am school gate drop off?

Their attempts to try and corral this situation and wrest things back under control are going about as well as Prince Andrew placing a personal ad.

Take the wall photo, which the royal savants of Twitter (sorry, X) and TikTok are adamant was faked.

It was, in fact, taken by two well-known freelance photographers, according to the Telegraph, who had set themselves up in that spot to get a shot of William.

“It was about 1.50pm when we saw the convoy coming towards us and we just managed to get a quick picture,” one of the snappers told the paper. “We had no idea that Kate was even in the car with him until we looked at it. It was pure luck.”

Given that the shots were taken in a time and a place where it could be expected they would be photographed, it’s reasonable to assume these wall photos were taken with the Waleses’ tacit agreement. They clearly wanted to try and do some sort of crisis management.

I’m not sure how or why they might have thought that one blurry shot of the princess travelling in the back of a Range Rover in this combustible climate would be enough to begin to fire fight this situation.

The couple and their staff seem at sea here, with no real notion how to deal with this sh*t storm back or get things back under control.

For so long now, William and Kate have run a tight ship that has, generally, done a blue-ribbon-winning job. (The key, ‘orrible exception was their disastrous 2022 Caribbean tour.) Still, the Waleses have nice big, juicy marquee projects and initiatives, very healthy social media followings and polling numbers that would make the Tory and Labour leadership weep salty, jealous tears into their pillows of a night.

The Prince and Princess of Wales have been, for so long now, the universally-acknowledged, Great Hope of Crown Inc, the shining city on the hill, the beacons of hope for committed monarchists fretting over whether King Charles and Queen Camilla have it in them to keep the whole shebang afloat.

How much damage has the couple and their handling of the last few weeks done to that? They are now clouded by vast masses of public suspicion and scepticism and have, with the picture editing snafu, just accidentally revealed the degree to which their seemingly easy, breeze-y, bouncy show is actually carefully constructed and moulded for public consumption.

The great Wales dog-and-pony show has come unglued.

We have never been here before, nor has Kate or William.

Meanwhile, I hear on X that Datchet wall has managed to get itself an agent. Its 15 minutes are well and truly here.

by Anonymousreply 272March 16, 2024 4:32 PM

^ Most people" don't give a rat's arse klan gran.

by Anonymousreply 273March 16, 2024 4:45 PM

Much ado about nothing. The media is bored and in need of a scandal, and the recuperating Kate is an easy target.

by Anonymousreply 274March 16, 2024 4:49 PM

R273, then why are you here? I just love all of the people talking about how they don’t care… over a couple dozen posts.

by Anonymousreply 275March 16, 2024 4:54 PM

Oh shut up. I never said that I didn't care. I'm here because I want to be.

by Anonymousreply 276March 16, 2024 5:00 PM

I think some in the media are pissed off, and somev in the RF staff arevpissed off because Kate has been shrouded in secrecy...I'd call it privacy. So they are making a big deal about a lot of bullshit. And it won't go away until William or Catherine issues a statement about her medical condition. William and Catherine apparently know who the leakers are which is why they have really locked this down. IMO Good for them. This is bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 277March 16, 2024 7:16 PM

R227 Google : PUBLIC FIGURE you thick frau.

by Anonymousreply 278March 16, 2024 7:19 PM

Maybe she took it off to do the dishes and it went down behind the sink or something, my Ma lost hers that way. And one of our neighbours lost hers up the bum of a cow while she was helping it give birth to a calf (admittedly unlikely explanation in Kate's case)

by Anonymousreply 279March 16, 2024 8:03 PM

R279 I love that you think that Kate does the dishes. She has a nanny for her kids and multiple staff. No way is she doing the dishes and even if she does, it's just stack them in a dishwasher.

by Anonymousreply 280March 16, 2024 8:05 PM

I don’t think the palace PR is quite this clever but one fallout from this spring madness is that Meghan can’t claim she, the successor to Diana, was the sole married-in to get the horrible press/social media treatment. (I mean, that was never true but most people weren’t paying attention after Diana died). Kate, recuperating from a serious illness , can now say she’s been bullied unmercifully and the subject of terrible rumors. If I were her, I’d show up at Easter, wan and shaky and leaning on a cane.

by Anonymousreply 281March 16, 2024 8:41 PM

[QUOTE]William and Catherine apparently know who the leakers are which is why they have really locked this down

Wait. What have I missed? What was leaked?

R280 has no sense of humor.

by Anonymousreply 282March 16, 2024 9:28 PM

r281

by Anonymousreply 283March 16, 2024 10:20 PM

R195, the photo was for Mother's Day. All photos in print and online are edited.

by Anonymousreply 284March 16, 2024 10:48 PM

r284

by Anonymousreply 285March 16, 2024 10:51 PM

I doubt Kate will make any public complaint about being bullied by the media and the online trolls, r281, but it's quite telling that the online vipers who claim to be outraged at the allegedly horrible treatment of Meghan and Harry by the media and online bullies are slamming Kate and William with the vilest abuse and joining in with the media's harassment of them.

by Anonymousreply 286March 16, 2024 10:52 PM

R278, public figure doesn't mean enforced daily presence in the media with no time out for health issues.

by Anonymousreply 287March 16, 2024 10:55 PM

r286 r287

by Anonymousreply 288March 16, 2024 10:59 PM

[quote]Maybe she took it off to do the dishes and it went down behind the sink or something, my Ma lost hers that way. And one of our neighbours lost hers up the bum of a cow while she was helping it give birth to a calf (admittedly unlikely explanation in Kate's case)

Maybe she accidentally cemented it into Ricky's barbecue range! 😲

by Anonymousreply 289March 16, 2024 11:09 PM

R288 is the sad freak who puts posters on block - “take that! Harumph!” - but then can’t resist reading all their posts anyway, so it posts the reply number. It’s pathetic behavior, but then, R288 is pathetic.

by Anonymousreply 290March 16, 2024 11:17 PM

R288 = ideal candidate for the FF button.

by Anonymousreply 291March 16, 2024 11:18 PM

R39 Yes Meghan was a yacht girl.

Photo has disappeared but it did not at all look photoshopped. And tits were on the smallish side.

by Anonymousreply 292March 16, 2024 11:36 PM

R289, maybe it'll show up when she bites into a hamburger!

by Anonymousreply 293March 17, 2024 12:01 AM

The DM even printed a excerpt from Robert Lacey today talking about what a terrible explosive temper William "had." and how he screamed and yelled and pushed his father around physically when he was younger. He had a lot of rage...and guess who Lacey quoted in describing William' rages? CAMILLA. She told friends and family members because she was worried about Charles who just stood there and took it. So looks like the gloves are off with dear Willie boy.

by Anonymousreply 294March 17, 2024 12:03 AM

R292 Speaking of yacht girl titties: Katie worked (the only job she ever had) on a yacht in her( always open) gap year. . Wonder if the doctors let he keep her jubblies. Not that it would matter to her husband.

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by Anonymousreply 295March 17, 2024 12:42 AM

are Katie's nips mis- matched?

by Anonymousreply 296March 17, 2024 12:46 AM

Poor flat chested thing.

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by Anonymousreply 297March 17, 2024 12:48 AM

Wills creaming her crack.

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by Anonymousreply 298March 17, 2024 12:49 AM

R296 Like 98% of women have one tit bigger than the other.

by Anonymousreply 299March 17, 2024 12:51 AM

R299 I wouldn't know.

by Anonymousreply 300March 17, 2024 12:56 AM

Lately she was so emaciated her she had former tits.

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by Anonymousreply 301March 17, 2024 1:00 AM

R296, I just read that article and it says nothing about William pushing his father around physically, just that he ranted and raved around the time of his father's marriage to Camilla. He was never physical with his father. The DM comment section is mostly supportive of William. so the article doesn't appear to have the desired affect.

by Anonymousreply 302March 17, 2024 1:01 AM

Amateur.

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by Anonymousreply 303March 17, 2024 1:03 AM

[quote]The DM even printed a excerpt from Robert Lacey today talking about what a terrible explosive temper William "had." and how he screamed and yelled and pushed his father around physically when he was younger. He had a lot of rage...and guess who Lacey quoted in describing William' rages? CAMILLA. She told friends and family members because she was worried about Charles who just stood there and took it. So looks like the gloves are off with dear Willie boy.

That story just popped up on my social media. I am quite surprised Daily Mail published it and with a quote from Camilla. It was an old quote, but a quote nonetheless. Damn. I see Camilla sitting back with a bourbon in one hand, a cig in the other, just cackling away at all this drama. This thing is a hoot and a half.

by Anonymousreply 304March 17, 2024 1:03 AM

^ the framing was all “in the past” and now he’s matured.

by Anonymousreply 305March 17, 2024 1:08 AM

Me with raging out of control violent temper. Utter tosh!

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by Anonymousreply 306March 17, 2024 1:08 AM

[quote]^ the framing was all “in the past” and now he’s matured.

Regardless of how it was framed, DM would not have published that story two weeks ago.

by Anonymousreply 307March 17, 2024 1:09 AM

r16 Everyone knows is doing a LOT of heavy lifting. We , you, and I dont know whether or not he is or isnt fucking her. Saying lots of people believe or reckon hes fucking her is a lot more accurate but even then this was a fringe gossip theory online mainly until the past few weeks .The majority of people I know were totally unaware of the Rose rumours.Some still are.

by Anonymousreply 308March 17, 2024 1:10 AM

There's William ranting at his Dad and then there's Harry beating up prostitutes while away in the military.

by Anonymousreply 309March 17, 2024 1:11 AM

I've always been a tender loving son to my dear Pa.

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by Anonymousreply 310March 17, 2024 1:12 AM

r31 Where are you getting the idea she nearly died from??

by Anonymousreply 311March 17, 2024 1:15 AM

R309 You are an excellent judge of character. Even as a boy Harry showed all the signs of a violent abusive sociopath.

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by Anonymousreply 312March 17, 2024 1:21 AM

R311 Pub closed early?

by Anonymousreply 313March 17, 2024 1:21 AM

The DM only reprinted an except from Lacey’s book published in 2020. Old news but the DM is just fanning the flames because there is NO news from Kensington Palace re Kate’s condition. There’s never been such tight security and it angers them that they can’t get a scoop. So they’re punishing W & K for not playing along. Well, they have to put something in the paper. No one wants to just read about Tory policies.

by Anonymousreply 314March 17, 2024 1:23 AM

I'm not angry. I'm not really. I'm not angry. Believe me.

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by Anonymousreply 315March 17, 2024 1:24 AM

r64 The Daily Beast on the whole over recent years has been very pro Harkle to the point it seemed like they were shilling for them as paid cheerleaders so that is another reason to be skeptical of the reasons and motives behind the article being published. To my mind the sudden onslaught of articles all negative against William and Kate in media and publications large and small all around the world felt more like a campaign rather than organic. Meghans agency WME are a powerful agency with tentacles and adjacent interests all over the place so who knows

by Anonymousreply 316March 17, 2024 1:26 AM

Seriously , is this the face of a man who beats his wife?

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by Anonymousreply 317March 17, 2024 1:28 AM

R312 That's actually a sweet picture. Despite it all, he was a super cute kid.

by Anonymousreply 318March 17, 2024 1:29 AM

r72 Kate is very close to her sister Pippa and Pippa named her daughter Rose. Do we really think if the affair was true that her sister would be so insensitive and torment her in that way?? I dont think there was any chance of William or Rose and her husband suing for libel and giving the rumours more prominence and credence.

by Anonymousreply 319March 17, 2024 1:29 AM

r77 I would suggest if the media and press are really concerned about their own credibility that they should have stopped a long time ago publishing any effectively paid for PR articles .That type of paid journalism is not proper journalism in my book.

by Anonymousreply 320March 17, 2024 1:31 AM

MURIEL SHE IS BACK!!!!. WHY CAN'T YOU STOP THIS DISPARAGEMENT OF OUR ROYAL FAMILY! CAN WE NOT HAVE JUST 1 DELUDED FANTASY THREAD OUT OF OUR TWO DOZEN IN PEACE?!!!!!

by Anonymousreply 321March 17, 2024 1:32 AM

r80 She didnt offer the barest of reasons. If you think all abdominal surgery is a nothing burger then you are very wrong.

by Anonymousreply 322March 17, 2024 1:34 AM

R310 William is pounding Charles in the head! No wonder they called him Billy The Basher.

by Anonymousreply 323March 17, 2024 1:35 AM

[quote]To my mind the sudden onslaught of articles all negative against William and Kate in media and publications large and small all around the world felt more like a campaign rather than organic. Meghans agency WME are a powerful agency with tentacles and adjacent interests all over the place so who knows

We get it, you don't like Harry and Meghan. But this story and the follow up has nothing to do with them. This is a Kensington Palace fuck up. Trust me, you won't lose any Will and Kate 4Eva Points if you admit that this was a big misstep. Will and Kate will get past this and next year everyone will be talking about something else, they will scrutinize their photos, but everyone will move on. Even the biggest stan has to take off their rose-colored glasses at some point.

by Anonymousreply 324March 17, 2024 1:37 AM

Harry began abusing Charles at a very early age, thank God our caring William was there to look after his father!

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by Anonymousreply 325March 17, 2024 1:40 AM

Willy must be hell to work for. Can't wait for his staff to start spilling the tea on this out of control swine. And they will.

by Anonymousreply 326March 17, 2024 1:45 AM

“Spilling the tea”, R326? That tells me everything that I need to know about you.

FEIW the Waleses (you would probably know them as “Willy” and “Duchess Kate”) have a very loyal staff as evidenced by their low staff turnover. If you know otherwise then do share.

by Anonymousreply 327March 17, 2024 1:59 AM

I think the press are trying to goad William and Kate into revealing what's really happened/happening. They're publishing articles about Rose Hanbury, William's temper, Kate's missing rings, etc. because they know this will fuel rumours about their marriage. They want the Palace to get sick of the speculation and make a definitive announcement.

by Anonymousreply 328March 17, 2024 2:05 AM

[quote] ‘Genuinely worried’ Meghan Markle has reached out to Kate Middleton ‘through back channels

With rumors about the Princess of Wales’ well-being spiraling out of control amid the uproar over her photoshopping debacle, Meghan Markle is attempting to offer her estranged sister-in-law support, one insider says.

“Scandals of the Royal Palaces” author Tom Quinn told the Mirror that the Duchess of Sussex has reached out to Kensington Palace several times via back channels in an effort to connect with Kate Middleton, whose recovery from serious abdominal surgery has sparked wild rumors about her whereabouts.

“She is genuinely worried about Kate’s health,” Quinn claimed.

Markle and her husband Prince Harry haven’t been on speaking terms with Kate and her spouse Prince William since they moved to Montecito, Calif. in 2020.

However, it’s unlikely Kate is in a state to start reconciliation talks, another insider asserts.

“I don’t think Kate would ever consider Meghan — who spent such a very short time in the royal fold — as an appropriate or qualified person to give her advice or support,” royal expert Jennie Bond told OK!.

“This is a time for Kate to concentrate on regaining her strength, physically and mentally, and I don’t imagine she would welcome tackling the family rift right now,” she added.

But Bond noted that should the former actress send “flowers’ or “goodies” to the princess to “cheer her up,” then the “gesture would be politely accepted.”

Quinn concurs, claiming Kate would likely politely accept Markle’s “olive branches” as she would not want to be seen “rebuffing these overtures.”

But it would be unlikely to lead to a real reconciliation between the pair or their feuding husbands.

“The feeling in Kensington Palace is that if Meghan’s attempts to extend an olive branch are welcomed, it will just re-open old wounds,” Quinn said.

Kate hasn’t been seen in the public eye since Christmas 2023 — except for a few blurry photos of her traveling in cars.

The future queen is skipping the annual St. Patrick’s Day parade on Sunday at Mons Barracks in Aldershot, England, an event that she attends every year.

The princess became the honorary Colonel of the Irish Guards last year following the death of Queen Elizabeth.

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by Anonymousreply 329March 17, 2024 2:07 AM

In 5...4...3.. 2..

It is announced from Buckingham Palace with great regret that the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge have decided to separate. Their Royal Highnesses have no plans to divorce and their constitutional positions are unaffected. This decision has been reached amicably and they will both continue to participate in the upbringing of their children.

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by Anonymousreply 330March 17, 2024 2:23 AM

R329, More like trying to get some juicy gossip and running with it the minute she puts the phone down.

Assuming that article is even true (unlikely).

by Anonymousreply 331March 17, 2024 2:26 AM

Can't argue with this reddit comment:

[quote] If Kensington Palace weren't acting like they're covering up her murder, people wouldn't think they were covering up her murder.

by Anonymousreply 332March 17, 2024 2:40 AM

Nobody thinks that, not even the media who are behaving like vindictive assholes because the BRF is keeping medical information private.

by Anonymousreply 333March 17, 2024 2:47 AM

[quote] Kate hasn’t been seen in the public eye since Christmas 2023 — except for a few blurry photos of her traveling in cars.

Rofl.

Even the Loch Ness Monster has been photographed more than Kate, in the last three months.

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by Anonymousreply 334March 17, 2024 2:53 AM

[quote]the media who are behaving like vindictive assholes because the BRF is keeping medical information private.

The media left them alone, until they released the photoshopped photo. They did that, not the media. The conspiracy theories were mostly on social media and various message boards, not in the press. This is not about her medical information, it's about them outright lying.

by Anonymousreply 335March 17, 2024 2:57 AM

I just realized that since we have zero info really for over a month, Kate could've had anything from a double organ transplant to a stress-induced meltdown. We regular folks are naturally curious and sure do fan those flames.

by Anonymousreply 336March 17, 2024 3:06 AM

r243 Actually for significant abdominal surgery the timeline of Kates recovery is spot on.

by Anonymousreply 337March 17, 2024 3:21 AM

r335 No they didnt

by Anonymousreply 338March 17, 2024 3:21 AM

I don't really understand why they need to hide the kind of abdominal surgery she had. Do they intend for it never to come out?

Same with Chuck's cancer.

by Anonymousreply 339March 17, 2024 3:23 AM

My guess is vanity. And before the Kate mafia pounces on me, there is nothing wrong with a pretty 40 something year old woman being concerned about her looks and how she's photographed - given that she's one of the most photographed women in the world. If it's Crohn's, if she had the kind of surgery that some suspect, if she's wearing a bag, she doesn't want people seeing that or the recovery and who could blame her.

by Anonymousreply 340March 17, 2024 3:28 AM

r324 Nonsense. I am talking about all the anegative articles about their marriage, the Rose allegations etc I am not talking about the articles about the photo being altered. An avalanche of frankly unconnected stories. Im no stan. I have said in a previous thread they shouldnt have allowed themselves to be goaded into posting a photo and that they should have issued a generic statement saying Kate is making good progress to quell to a certain extent some of the wilder nonsense.

r339 Medical privacy is a right all have in the UK and US. Are you saying that right should not exist?

by Anonymousreply 341March 17, 2024 3:29 AM

Exactly, R335. If someone hasn't been seen in public for a while, and her family post a photo to prove she's fine... and then they admit that the photo was edited, but they still don't follow it up by posting an actual unedited photo... people are going to wonder WTF they're hiding. Especially given that the pap shot the following day only showed the back of her head (and there's no way in hell that wasn't pre-arranged; what are the odds that after all those weeks, the press just so happened to finally get their second photo of her the day after the photoshopping drama?). Kate has every right to medical privacy, but releasing the edited photo was a terrible idea that just ramped up suspicion. I don't believe for a second she's dead or anything like that, but I suspect she's visibly ill to the point that if the public saw a clear photo of her they'd be alarmed.

by Anonymousreply 342March 17, 2024 3:40 AM

I just don’t buy Crohn’s. I don’t see any way she could have hid it. It’s so impactful in daily life, you have to be near a toilet etc. I heard somewhere that it was colitis from a chronic eating disorder and she had to have a bowel resection (with a colostomy bag). That makes more sense.

by Anonymousreply 343March 17, 2024 3:41 AM

R335, Oh please, outright lying? They photoshopped a photo like millions of people, including celebrities do all the time. Kate owned up to it and apologized almost immediately and instead of voicing some criticism, the media went apeshit overnight. They have been posting stories about Rose Hansbury, William's temper, and other non-photo-related articles to cast a bad light on the couple.

This is not about a photo that should never have been a big deal in the first place, it's payback for keeping the media in the dark over Kate's illness. There is no other explanation for their insane reaction to a non-event.

by Anonymousreply 344March 17, 2024 3:44 AM

Obviously the racist slag has Crones Disease.

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by Anonymousreply 345March 17, 2024 4:21 AM

R344 " They photoshopped a photo like millions of people, including celebrities do all the time."

Can't fool you Tina.

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by Anonymousreply 346March 17, 2024 5:09 AM

R294 “the DM even printed a excerpt” - proving once again that the Sussex Squad are illiterate trash.

by Anonymousreply 347March 17, 2024 6:43 AM

R344"They have been posting stories about Rose Hansbury, William's temper, and other non-photo-related articles to cast a bad light on the couple."

Yet when "they" spent the last five years doing this to the Sussex couple it was " investigative journalism" and you had no problem.

An old English expression: "Guess it depends on whose ox is getting gored " comes to mind.😂

by Anonymousreply 348March 17, 2024 7:31 AM

'They can dish it out but they can't take it" an old American expression.

by Anonymousreply 349March 17, 2024 7:50 AM

“Why the fuck do you Americans care or think that your option matters?” - that’s another expression.

by Anonymousreply 350March 17, 2024 8:08 AM

[quote] Anything is possible but if we're compelled to hear the argument that he's so posh affairs are second nature, conversely it's reasonable to argue he learned from his parents' mistakes and is strong willed enough to succeed at not doing the same

What a load of horseshit! William is a man with a dick and balls like the rest of us. If you really believe that he's been completely faithful this entire marriage then I have the London Bridge right here to sell you. You sound like a fangirl, someone very idealistic with a rosy(no pun intended) view of men in power. You're dammed right he learned from his parent's marriage as the apple never falls far from the tree, or in this case the crown. R206 You should never presume what someone would or would not do in a hypothetical situation, a mere human being will let you down every time.

by Anonymousreply 351March 17, 2024 9:50 AM

[quote] Kate Middleton at ‘Wits End’ Over Prince William & Rose Hanbury Affair Rumors

As conspiracy theories surrounding her health continue to circulate, the Princess of Wales has found herself facing another set of resurfaced rumors surrounding her husband’s alleged infidelity. Understandably, Kate Middleton’s response to Prince William and Rose Hanbury’s affair rumors has been a delicate balancing act—but that doesn’t mean she’s unbothered by the controversy.

“Kate taking her wedding ring off just intensified all the drama surrounding their marriage and the rumors of William’s affair with Rose,” a source shared with InTouch, referring to a now-infamous photoshopped family photo recently released by Kensington Palace, where Kate is pictured without her wedding band.

The source went on to add, “You can’t blame her for being at her wits end with the rumors about Rose and William completely haunting her. It’s hurtful, especially because she’s still recovering from major surgery.”

Speculation about Prince William’s alleged affair first started in 2019 following reports of a fallout between Princess Kate and Rose Hanbury, the Marchioness of Cholmondeley. Rose and her husband, David Cholmondeley, the 7th Marquess of Cholmondeley, were close friends with the Prince of Wales prior to the affair rumors. Since then, neither couple has commented on the speculation, but the allegations resurfaced as fans started raising questions about all the secrecy surrounding Kate’s health. The Princess of Wales had not been since publicly since December 2023 and for several weeks following her planned abdominal surgery, which took place in January 2024.

While Kensington Palace announced that Kate would be taking a step back from public facing duties until at least Easter, her absence from casual public appearances has led to a laundry list of theories surrounding her whereabouts—including speculation that she may be filing for divorce from Prince William.

In an attempt to seemingly dispel the rumors, a photo was shared on Kensington Palace’s official account on March 10, 2024, featuring Princess Catherine and her children with Prince William—Prince George, Princess Charlotte, and Prince Louis. However, this move only generated more controversy, as social media users quickly noticed inconsistencies in the image, suspecting it had been digitally altered.

Addressing the confusion on March 11, 2024, Kate released the following statement via X: “Like many amateur photographers, I do occasionally experiment with editing.” She went on to apologize for any misunderstanding caused by the family photo, sharing, “I wanted to express my apologies for any confusion the family photograph we shared yesterday caused. I hope everyone had a very happy Mother’s Day.”

Later that day, reports claimed she was photographed with Prince William in a Range Rover. Despite the photo agency’s assurance that the images were unaltered, royal followers around the world have continued to speculate, with some claiming the pictures were doctored and others questioning the identity of the woman beside William. For now, however, it looks like Kate and William are continuing to put on a united front.

Queen Elizabeth II’s death ruptured the already-fractured foundations of the House of Windsor—and dismantled the protective shield around it. With an institution long plagued by antiquated ideas around race, class and money, the monarchy and those who prop it up are now exposed and at odds with a rapidly modernizing world. Relying on his vast experience as a royal reporter and over a decade of conversations and interviews with current and former Palace staff, trusted friends of the royals and even the family members themselves, Scobie pulls back the curtain on an institution in turmoil to show what the monarchy must change in order to survive.

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by Anonymousreply 352March 17, 2024 10:02 AM

Does Stylecaster have you on the payroll, R352?

by Anonymousreply 353March 17, 2024 10:09 AM

Who am I to disagree with a respectable publication like "Stylecaster"?

Their main interest seems to be how astrology explains everything.

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by Anonymousreply 354March 17, 2024 10:12 AM

The photo was cleaned up, it wasn't a composite fake, cobbled together from other photos. Yeah, it was a bad idea but only because social media lost its shit and now they seem to be wobbling about toughing it out.

Twitter is full of stupid or crazy people or stupid crazy people. I don't know why any self-respecting person would allow themselves to be influenced by Twitter or most of the junk on social media. It is not an exchange of value information in 99% of the cases. I am baffled by how wound up people are over this story, especially on the basis of Twitter.

by Anonymousreply 355March 17, 2024 1:44 PM

Maybe the reason they haven't released a photo is that Kate's gone full Eugenia Cooney.

by Anonymousreply 356March 17, 2024 1:46 PM

R351 is lecturing others about making assumptions while making assumptions herself. Yeah, there's no way you have a dick and balls, hypocrite.

by Anonymousreply 357March 17, 2024 2:14 PM

Some of us forget. When William or Catherine go out to events and meet with members of the public there are always a few people who will ask questions. And by keeping this a private matter, the questions will be confined to get well wishes. People are nosy.

by Anonymousreply 358March 17, 2024 2:21 PM

R358

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by Anonymousreply 359March 17, 2024 3:21 PM

[QUOTE]The photo was cleaned up, it wasn't a composite fake, cobbled together from other photos

In the very least, Catherine's face was edited in. It's identical to her Vogue cover photo

by Anonymousreply 360March 17, 2024 3:28 PM

I laugh at people who are convinced and must also forcefully insist men can't choose to be monogamous. It suggests projection, immaturity, arrested development or they could just be the kind of asshole you hope you never get involved with.

by Anonymousreply 361March 17, 2024 3:29 PM

Some selected quotes from The Times article below. This is plainly endorsed. An exclusive, quoting friends and advisers. No way is the prospect of a disclosure being put out there unless it was going to happen. They would not set that expectation. It looks like the poor woman had a complicated surgery and it turned into an exhausting, embarassing Twitspiracy. Was there ever anything with a more fitting first syllable than Twitter?

For R358: A royal source said: “They are at their most open when out interacting with members of the public and I can see a world in which the princess might discuss her recovery out on engagements. If she was going to do it, that’s how she would do it.” A friend says: “They will want to be clear and more open, but they’ll do it when they feel ready. I would expect that to be her instinct and it will be her call. They’re not going to be rushed.”

Nor should they be, says a source: “In Kate’s case, there is almost nobody else in the world whose face, body, clothes are more judged than hers. So it’s entirely right for them not to want to be drawn into a game about what is going on with her health. What is happening is exactly what they said would happen — she would spend two weeks in hospital and be back after Easter. So what if they haven’t pushed her out there to wave from the back of a car? She is not a show pony.”

“Social media has provided the media with plenty of content and the speculation around their marriage is just cruel. These are people with three small children going through the hardest time they’ve had to go through as a family, with that as an awful backdrop. They are trying to keep things as normal as possible for the kids, but it’s not easy.”

A friend and adviser to the couple said: “If you want to call out the mistake, it was Kate not telling her team that she’d done it [edited the photo]. But she came out and said sorry. The photo was a misstep, even with something as innocent as that you should disclose altering it. But in the history of image-cropping and photo-altering to tell a story, a lot of the reaction from picture agencies was hypocritical.”

After a tumultuous few weeks and months, royal insiders say there will be no big “rethink” over how the couple move forwards. They will simply endeavour to keep calm and carry on, as Queen Elizabeth so often did in the final years of her life when family drama escalated.

“I don’t think they should engineer what they do next,” says one who has been in touch with the couple. “The royals are at their best when they get on with their job. Don’t strategise about how to recover ground lost over Photogate, do what you were always intending to do, and when you take the next picture, make sure you take enough so you don’t have to use Photoshop.”

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by Anonymousreply 362March 17, 2024 3:41 PM

The Royal Rota is to the Royal Family what Fox News is for MAGA Republicans.

by Anonymousreply 363March 17, 2024 3:53 PM

R357 There's no way you have brain cells or an active social life you royal fangirl cocksucking slag. Fuck off into your fantasy world where men of power are always faithful to their wives and home for dinner by 7pm. Delusional!

by Anonymousreply 364March 17, 2024 4:17 PM

R361 you're not a real man. Shut the fuck up and go renew your people magazine subscription, you cow.

by Anonymousreply 365March 17, 2024 4:21 PM

[quote]But in the history of image-cropping and photo-altering to tell a story, a lot of the reaction from picture agencies was hypocritical.”

Yikes, are they saying that reputable picture agencies like AP and Reuters knowingly go with altered pictures for news stories? (I don't mean colour correcting either.)

[quote]Don’t strategise about how to recover ground lost over Photogate, do what you were always intending to do, and when you take the next picture, make sure you take enough so you don’t have to use Photoshop.

Yes. Stop trying to be picture-perfect and put out some realistic pictures.

by Anonymousreply 366March 17, 2024 4:51 PM

R364, there you go making assumptions again after lecturing people about making assumptions Your hypocrisy is showing (and that's not an assumption).

by Anonymousreply 367March 17, 2024 5:10 PM

TBH, I think that probably most people (both men and women) would cheat if they could with an attractive person once their relationship/marriage has gone on for a number of years because things get old for most people. William must have a lot of women wanting to have a royal notch on the bedpost and he used to like having a number of girlfriends so I find it very believable that he would cheat.

by Anonymousreply 368March 17, 2024 5:18 PM

R367 That's right Christy, keep telling yourself that even after inevitable divorce announcement. I hope you have your therapist on speed dial girl.

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by Anonymousreply 369March 17, 2024 5:31 PM

^ who's the actress? She looks like a very young Nancy Grace.

by Anonymousreply 370March 17, 2024 5:39 PM

R369, who the fuck is Christy? Are you hearing voices now?

by Anonymousreply 371March 17, 2024 5:44 PM

R371 I'm not hearing voices, I'm just hearing you whining and crying like a bitch.

by Anonymousreply 372March 17, 2024 6:02 PM

R370 I think it's Elaine Hendrix in the movie 'Romy and Michele's High School Reunion'.

by Anonymousreply 373March 17, 2024 6:03 PM

Another royal thread. Another stop on the Royalass crazy train.

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by Anonymousreply 374March 17, 2024 6:13 PM

R363 Yep. We've always known that on infested royal/Meghan Markle DL threads that most of the rabid BRF stans are racist Murican Trumptard Klan Grans. Some racist frau Brits and doty old gits. They tick off all the same boxes. Six of one.

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by Anonymousreply 375March 17, 2024 6:21 PM

R372, then you're definitely hearing voices. Who's this Christy person you mentioned?

by Anonymousreply 376March 17, 2024 6:26 PM

[quote] you're definitely hearing voices. Who's this Christy person you mentioned?

Omg I love that line.

It's from "Romy and Michelle's High School Reunion."

There's this bitch named Christy Masters Christiansen (she loved saying her married name at the reunion, as a badge of "pride") who was the high school Mean Girl in a group of 4 girls, and at the reunion, she was a sad, washed up bitch who was married to the high school jock hero.

She was mean to the two nerdy girls, and at the reunion she was still mean to them.

One of her former Mean Girls (who now works for a fashion magazine and sort of became a lesbian) backed up Romy and Michelle at the reunion.

Christy (pregnant and cheated on by her husband) lashed out at her and said, "Unlike some ball busting career woman, we're all happy and fulfilled."

And her former friend says to her, "That's right, Christy. Keep telling yourself that."

My friends and I always used to say that to each other when we were trying to call someone DELUSIONAL.

I love you for reminding me of that line, R369!

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by Anonymousreply 377March 17, 2024 7:38 PM

What kind of announcement is Kate going to make?

Could it be a royal divorce?

by Anonymousreply 378March 17, 2024 8:17 PM

R374, I am sufficiently creeped out by that photo.

by Anonymousreply 379March 17, 2024 8:20 PM

R379 You should be creeped out by the Royal stans on these threads.

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by Anonymousreply 380March 17, 2024 8:52 PM

You've never seen The Parent Trap, R370? You've been missing out.

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by Anonymousreply 381March 17, 2024 8:57 PM

R380, we’ve definitely been overrun by loons.

by Anonymousreply 382March 17, 2024 9:05 PM

William and Camilla looking chummy at the annual Commonwealth Day service at Westminster Abbey on March 11.

I thought they hated each other?

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by Anonymousreply 383March 17, 2024 9:26 PM

^ He looks absolutely ridiculous! Why doesn't he just shave off the sides and rock the bald head look? He would instantly lose10 years off his face if he weren't so stubborn.

by Anonymousreply 384March 17, 2024 9:38 PM

The shaved head look is too chavvy and low class. Doesn't it also have associations with violent skinhead movements in the UK?

by Anonymousreply 385March 17, 2024 10:08 PM

Don't be ridiculous not every bald white man is a skinhead, especially royalty. The whole world knows he's losing his hair so why not embrace it? A shaved head would make him look at least 10 years younger.

by Anonymousreply 386March 17, 2024 10:16 PM

[QUOTE]A shaved head would make him look at least 10 years younger.

He'll have gaggles of school girls, middle-aged women, and even some randy grannies yelling "Oi, fit builder!" at him on walkabouts and other public appearances.

by Anonymousreply 387March 17, 2024 10:36 PM

R381 Ha! That's what I immediately thought—it's Meredith!

by Anonymousreply 388March 17, 2024 11:03 PM

Willy is from France..

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by Anonymousreply 389March 17, 2024 11:10 PM

R381 - I did when it first came out and I remember the role, but not the actress. I just thought "Holy Mackerel, she's Nancy Grace's younger, thinner doppelganger!" when I saw that gif.

I'm inspired to rewatch now. I'm pretty sure my original inspiration to watch was Dennis Quaid after seeing him in the Big Easy years prior.

by Anonymousreply 390March 17, 2024 11:20 PM

My bet is still that she had botched cosmetic surgery.. She's wearing sunglasses in that weird pap shot with the car that looks as if it has five tires.

by Anonymousreply 391March 18, 2024 12:22 AM

Like our beautiful Princess needs cosmetic surgery. So funny I forgot to laugh!

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by Anonymousreply 392March 18, 2024 1:59 AM

She was seen at a farm shop on Saturday, apparently looking perfectly normal, so hope you didn't bet much, R391.

by Anonymousreply 393March 18, 2024 12:24 PM

[quote] She was seen at a farm shop on Saturday, apparently looking perfectly normal

And yet there are still no photos of her.

Just these mysterious "reports" and "sightings" of Kate, which have yet to be confirmed.

by Anonymousreply 394March 18, 2024 6:36 PM

Here is a new pic

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by Anonymousreply 395March 18, 2024 8:17 PM

That's obviously Helen Mirren in a wig.

by Anonymousreply 396March 18, 2024 8:20 PM

I hope there are some cheeseburgers in that bag.

by Anonymousreply 397March 18, 2024 8:21 PM

Feeling a little silly, R394?

by Anonymousreply 398March 18, 2024 8:23 PM

The "shopping bag" is really a COLOSTOMY BAG!

by Anonymousreply 399March 19, 2024 1:43 AM

R397, according to Nelson Silva, 40, who took the video, they were buying bread.

[quote]One of the eyewitnesses who saw them, Nelson Silva, says ... "I noticed a couple choosing loaves of bread and the woman turned her face and I felt like I had seen the face before. It was familiar. I knew it from somewhere."

[quote]He adds, "I went to my car and as they came out of the shop I just filmed them. I think they walked out through a gate out of the grounds. They just vanished and I didn't see a car. I just wanted to share with my family footage and show just how normal they were."

Cute of him to wait around until they came out and sneakily shoot a video of them.

This was at the Windsor Farm Shop.

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by Anonymousreply 400March 19, 2024 2:06 AM

Well I hope she eats the entire loaf of bread with lots of butter and jam. She's too damned thin. Maybe he was out walking with her to help her build stamina. Fresh air, exercise in moderation is good.

by Anonymousreply 401March 19, 2024 3:09 AM

Why does she have three feet?

by Anonymousreply 402March 19, 2024 3:25 AM

Wow she must be on the mend ! Katie flashing her old spontaneous genuine smile that she is world famous for!

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by Anonymousreply 403March 19, 2024 3:30 AM

Hon quick hide they are taking our picture!!

by Anonymousreply 404March 19, 2024 6:18 AM

Why is she carrying a shopping bag so soon after major abdominal surgery? I had my gallbladder removed with keyhole surgery, which is day surgery, and wasn't allowed to carry more than 10lb for six weeks. I hope all that's in it is boxes of tissues.

by Anonymousreply 405March 19, 2024 10:43 AM

It's bread, r405, which you'd have known if you'd bothered to read the article instead of immediately pontificating. In any case, it's been over 6 weeks since her operation.

I do love how the loon narrative is switching. Before it was "my sister-in-law had a hysterectomy and was out of hospital in 2 days, back at work after a week and training for a half-marathon 2 weeks after that so Kate must be dead or divorced if she's taking more than a month off". Now what we're going to hear is "I had an ingrown toenail removed and was told not to walk for 2 months, how can she be lifting a pint of milk over 2 months since her operation? It must be a body double! Or she never had an operation at all and ran away!"

By the way, even though in the UK we still mostly use the silly imperial system, for weights we have moved on to grams and kilograms (unless it's body weight, and then it's in stones). I had to look up what 10lb is. It's about 4.5 kilos. That's not so light. A loaf of bread weighs much less than that.

by Anonymousreply 406March 19, 2024 11:04 AM

The difference is that I had quite a minor abdominal operation and wasn't allowed to lift much for 6 weeks. In her case it was likely open cut surgery, and a much less routine operation, and that takes far longer to recovery from.

I'm not suggesting a conspiracy, I'm just pointing out that most people, never mind princesses, would not be wanting to carry anything that soon after major surgery unless they had no choice. She not only has William there to carry bags, but if he weren't available she has servants including a driver. If it's just one loaf of bread, I assume she's carrying it to show an alarmed public that she's fit.

by Anonymousreply 407March 19, 2024 11:33 AM

I admit, R406, there are days (or threads) where i wish every post had to be authenticated. Personally I think there's less Russian interference than is widely believed, but I do think it would reduce the amount of lunacy. DL used to be snarky but smart.

by Anonymousreply 408March 19, 2024 11:33 AM

It's too bad they didn't get a ride in that caravan that took her to the hospital in London after Christmas.

by Anonymousreply 409March 19, 2024 11:36 AM

I don't think she was doing anything "for the public", r405. She just went for a Sunday stroll to the local farm shop, which happens to be the Windsor Farm Shop, which sells produce from the royal estate, so it's a familiar, local environment where people are used to seeing her and William. That someone then took a video of them and sold it to TMZ is nothing to do with her. And the public isn't alarmed. She had an op, she's taking time to recover and will be back to public engagements after Easter.

by Anonymousreply 410March 19, 2024 11:45 AM

Re. Kate and the Diana ring, it's never fit her well. When she does wear it, it's usually hanging off to the side. The weight of the stone must be considerable, given the size, and there's not a long of flesh on those fingers to help hold it in place. I have always wondered why it hasn't been properly sized.

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by Anonymousreply 411March 19, 2024 12:02 PM
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by Anonymousreply 412March 19, 2024 12:04 PM

Damn. I wish I was more enterprising. I should have flew to the UK, train to Windsor, and staked out the shopping areas down around Windsor castle. They are open t o the public, after all. I video or photo of her right now must be worth something. I know it would pay for the trip and then some.

by Anonymousreply 413March 19, 2024 1:03 PM

R407, It's just a loaf of bread and she is probably following medical advice so knows what she can and can't carry.

by Anonymousreply 414March 19, 2024 2:48 PM

Thank God it's carbs.

by Anonymousreply 415March 19, 2024 3:05 PM

I just saw her on video via MSNBC. Dressed casually walking along, carrying a shopping bag and smiling while talking to William.

by Anonymousreply 416March 19, 2024 3:11 PM

R413, the guy who took the video is Digital Community Engagement Lead at the LEGO Group in Slough (i.e. almost Windsor). He's recently been promoted from Social Engager.

They weren't really near Windsor Castle. It was the Windsor Farm Shop, which looks to be about a 20-minute walk from Adelaide Cottage.

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by Anonymousreply 417March 19, 2024 3:33 PM

R6 has it.

by Anonymousreply 418March 19, 2024 3:35 PM

You "leave Kate alone" people are so easy to gaslight. You'll believe anything the media puts out, explain away obvious discrepancies in statements, and find myriad excuses for shitty blurred photos and video clips. It's all such breathtaking gullibility.

by Anonymousreply 419March 19, 2024 4:14 PM

R419 Cultists gotta cult.

by Anonymousreply 420March 19, 2024 4:16 PM

Overjoyed Catherine is back and masticating in public!

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by Anonymousreply 421March 19, 2024 4:19 PM

FFS r419 we're not gullible. We're sensible; it's Occam's Razor, the simplest explanation is the best, Kate became very ill, had surgery, and has taken a long break to recuperate. I don't agree with how they've handled the recuperation exactly, given their public-facing roles, but I don't believe any nonsense about "kidnapping", divorce, leaving in the middle of the night, or anyone going missing. Kate's the strong staid one in that marriage and is the glue holding it all together; she isn't going anywhere and certainly not without her children.

Since when did Kate become kooky Charlene of Monaco? Come on. She's the opposite character, she's been in the public eye for 20 years now and people know her well enough.

At some point, they'll tell everyone what happened to her health-wise, and everyone will go "awww", feel sad for her and she'll be back on top of the UK royal popularity polls.

by Anonymousreply 422March 19, 2024 4:19 PM

That "Windsor Farm Shop" woman is either 1.) NOT Kate; or 2.) NOT filmed recently; or 3.) NEITHER Kate NOR recent.

Give it a minute's thought, people.

Let's imagine you are currently THE most "MISSING PERSON" alive, the MH370 of royalty. Your Countrymen, even the world, are worried, wondering, left to gossiping unsavory things** IN THE VACUUM. "Seriously ill? Comatose? Crazy? Beaten? Stubborn? Vain? Betrayed? Dumped? DEAD?!"

Not to mention caught, not only in a bad romance, but in a SELF-CONFESSED Photoshopping ruse!

Do you SPEAK on CAMERA regarding any of the aforementioned?

Noooooooo. You're the Duchess Honey Badger!

YOU (and William) choose to IGNORE your nation's concerns and INSTEAD traipse NONCHALANTLY in and out of a country market, blithely acting as though nothing were amiss, tra-la, tra-la! Carrying bags after "serious abdominal surgery"!

Really, DL? THIS is what (some of) you think is true? That an orphaned video left on the doorstep of TMZ is of royal provenance, like a 21st C. Dickens character?

That you think The Firm would have NOT issued a formal statement regarding Kate's hospital departure in jolly good health, with ZERO recuperation period necessary as evidenced by the oh, so reliable amateur "Windsor Farm Shop" video?

** Including rumors about the monarch that a Silent "Windsor Farm Shop" Kate is allowing: "Dying? Abdicating?"

In sum: If the TMZ tape indeed shows a hale and hearty blithe spirit Kate from this month, then the entire BRF but especially she is worthy of our utmost scorn, derision, and dismissal.

by Anonymousreply 423March 19, 2024 4:22 PM

R422 - your points are well-made, and I can see your side of the argument, but the BRF has made such a pitiful mess of this whole situation. If the simplest explanation is the best one, they could have prevented this hoopla from the start by being clear and matter-of-fact. Instead, they've been cagey, and the doctored/blurred photos have made it difficult to credit anything they're saying as the truth. If her surgery and recovery are such a non-issue, then they botched the hell out of it, and trust levels have plummeted because of it. Propaganda comes in many forms and levels of importance. Everything they put out reeks of media-based propaganda and damage control tactics.

by Anonymousreply 424March 19, 2024 4:28 PM

R422, "People know her well enough"?! 😅🤣😂🤣😅😂🤣😅🤣

Did you also think you "knew" Diana "well enough" before THE interview and what came out later of her "Fatal Attraction" behaviors with married or resistant men? Her bulimia?

Do you think you "know" William "well enough," as in Rose?

by Anonymousreply 425March 19, 2024 4:30 PM
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