Angela Basssett on losing last year's Oscar to Jamie Lee Curtis: "I was gobsmacked!"

Sincerely NOT a good look fo Bassett.

"At the time, Bassett went viral on social media over her reaction to Curtis' win. She appeared to be visibly disappointed, didn't clap for her fellow nominee, and had a blank expression on her face.

Winfrey told the 9-1-1 star that she did not understand why the moment blew up on social media.

"I didn't get the whole 'Angela Bassett face,'" she said. "I thought, wow, you can see that [you] expected another thing, but you were still as gracious as a queen would be." '

GEE, OPRAH - Do you think maybe because if Angela won, and Jamie Lee Curtis reacted the way Bassett did (and didn't applaud her or even smile), she'd be called much more than 'disappointed' ?

Hopefully she never wins one.

R4 Exactly ! Her career would be over the next day.

And there’s Oprah, stirring that shit up as only Oprah does. And if anyone here ever watched Gayle King on CBS Morning you’ll know how king is constantly injecting race into these awards season. And and Oprah are messy as fuck.

It’s become normal though for many in the American black community to feel entitled to “win” things and then act like petulant assholes when they don’t.

Can't believe Oprah is trying to give her a 'pass' on this. Actually, I can believe this.

C.

U.

Oprah doesn't know the meaning of the word 'gracious.'

Get real. R4, that never would have happened because Jamie Lee Curtis would have been dancing in the aisles had Angela Bassett won to prove how woke she is.

The older I get, I realize how gross all of this is. These are overpaid, over entitled people placing seriousness on trivial things. No one “deserves” an Oscar. Acting in a film in not really some huge achievement. It’s harmless if taken at face value, but these sanctimonious stars like Bassett and Oprah turn it into something else. Something gross.

too many blacks are divorced from reality.

Eh, I didn't think Jamie Lee Curtis deserved it and while everyone seemed to love that chaotic movie, I didn't. And I love Michelle Yeoh and Ke Huy Quan.

I agree, R14, she didn't deserve it, and I too throught that movie sucked. But Bassett looking like a smacked ass because she lost and the ludicrous "queen" remark by Oprah makes me almost glad Curtis won.

Oprah gives such an evil "Girl, you know those white people hate you, right?" energy. Toxic.

[quote] but you were still as gracious as a queen would be.

You would thin that royalty would feel more entitled than gracious.

R17 Oprah can't believe that. Would be much more honest to just go with what Bassett said, she thought she would win, was very disappointed and wasn't able to cover the fact.

Maybe Angela didn't like the tactics Jamie Lee used to get votes, but obviously can't come out and say that. Didn't Alison Janney get accused of relentlessly snooze her way to a win over Laurie Metcalf? Although she wasn't nearly as in-your-face as Curtis.

Kerry Condon was better than both of them.

*shmoozing

R19 agreed

No one wins Oscars for being in Marvel movies. Angela is smart enough to know this. There was zero possibility of her winning.

R18 I hear what you're saying, but those same tactics JLC used were available to Bassett. She either chose not to use them, or she didn't know how - either way, that's on her.

I wish she had won instead of the insufferable nepo-baby JlC

I wish she won, too - and see JLC sit there with a scowl on her face and not applaud her win...and let it go viral, and then - a year later - Oprah would hail JLC as 'Queen'.

[quote]I thought I handled it very well, and that was my intention: to handle it very well

Sure, bitch. That’s why you sat there in your seat, did not rise for the standing ovation and also did not clap whole Curtis was up there.

The only thing you were “gobsmacked” about was that you realized were the only person on the planet who thinks you are as vital as YOU think you are.

Fuck off.

R6 Fuck off. When has Oprah ever been known to play the race card.

I’m confused as to why Bassett thought she was such a shoo in. She didn’t win the Bafta. Did she win the SAG I can’t remember. She had only won the Golden Globe up until Oscar night right.

I was molested.

[quote]The only thing you were “gobsmacked” about was that you realized were the only person on the planet who thinks you are as vital as YOU think you are.

There's a Viola joke in there somewhere.

Sick of racist crap.

ME ME ME ME MEEEEEEE!!!!!

I wish Angela had won too.

At any rate, she's aging way better than JLC so she's the real winner.

Oprah has never been known to play the race card. If anything she has been known to be cold to black women so I interpret this as nothing but showing support for a friend. I’ve seen her cry with white men who lost all their money through bad investments or greed. She’ll have a black guest on there who may have been molested by they uncle everyday and had to walk half a mile to school, and she be looking at them like “you black bitch you can handle it” 😂.

^^^^ delusional

R27 - Why do you keep posting that in multiple threads? Is it supposed to be funny? I’m missing the joke.

They gave Angela an Oscar now so she should shut up about the previous year's psychodrama.

It wouldn't be a DL thread if some troll didn't throw in the over-used word 'delusional'.

I believe Bassett had every right to be disappointed and didn't have to play the whole game of appearing happy for the actor who wins. It's the difference between opportunities for Black and White actors. Emma Stone -- an average talent who has been given great opportunity -- has won Best Actress twice at 35. Viola Davis, her much-heralded, supremely talented costar from "The Help," has never won Best Actress. Emma will be nominated again within the next 5 years. Viola may never receive another nomination, even though she deserves to be nominated each year.

Bassett understood last year was likely her final opportunity to win a competitive Oscar, and she had absolutely no obligation to mask her disappointment for the comfort of others.

It was a superhero movie FFS.

[quote] Can't believe Oprah is trying to give her a 'pass' on this. Actually, I can believe this.

A pass on what?

She sat there stone faced for about seven seconds, stood up and applauded like everyone else in attendance, went to all the after parties with her family and smiled like a good sport and has never mentioned it again.

Until Oprah, being the grievance machine she is, brought it up.

You’d think from reading these nonsense comments she went into a blind rage, stormed out the door, set fire to the auditorium and has been bitching nonstop since. Nothing resembling this ever happened. Pure fiction.

Eddie Murphy actually stormed out the door in the same situation and didn’t get near the flack she has for just momentarily seeming a bit disappointed and then carrying on like a professional. I actually admire her being authentic and not totally performative.

Angela Bassett has always been a wonderful, beautiful and dignified performer. Yale-trained, played Lady MacBeth Off Broadway, previously Oscar nominated, always busy, always gracious. A total class act.

Meanwhile, the narcissistic nepo baby - who did everything but sell the gold out of her late mother’s teeth to get the award - has spent most of the past 50 years being chased by Michael Myers. That’s her legacy.

These awards, as someone previously stated, are essentially meaningless. None of them are curing cancer and they’re more about politics than merit.

But this nonsense retelling of that night is 100 percent bulldhit.

I've been through a lot in my life but at least I've never been through THAT. I don't think I could handle it. Being nominated for an oscar but not winning. It's almost too fucked up to even imagine.

Very disappointed and frustrated, sure, but surprised or shocked or gobsmacked? If I remember, while there were some murmurs that she could POSSIBLY win, she wasn't widely expected to win. Or am I remembering incorrectly? But I understand the disappointment.

Awards are nice, but it's all about THE WORK.

R38 Agreed. Eddie Murphy threw one of the biggest fits ever for being snubbed. It was amazing he lost though. He had been winning all season in addition to all the bank he made Hollywood. Eddie Murphy was the biggest box office star of the 80s. Oh well, shouldn’t have made Norbit.

Agree, R38.

I would add that the Oscars are also a popularity contest. As R12 put it, they are "Overly paid, over entitled" people whining. I understand it signals the recognition of your peers, but Angela Davis acted in a super hero movie (as others have noted). She was playing a comic book character.

R38 A pass on her disgraceful behavior. None of the other women took seven seconds to stand up and cheer the winner.

"Viola may never receive another nomination, even though she deserves to be nominated each year."

What movie should she have been nominated for this year?

R45 Is that really the point. Does that erase 100 years of racism and oppression. What difference does it make. She should be nominated every year. They can use an old film and re-release it. You people are so obtuse in your bigoted ways you can never figure out a way.

Everyone so entitled these days.

Why on Earth did she think she was going to finally win for a comic book movie?

Maybe she should play the Joker next? That’s the only comic book / superhero movie role that can get an Oscar lol.

R13 Right because white people are so grounded. Radical liberals who think they’re dogs and radical right wingers who think Jesus is coming back next year.

Fuck off lol

[quote] What movie should she have been nominated for this year?

Whatever movie she was IN this year!!!! She's the "Black Meryl Streep," right?! Then she should be nominated every year she appears in a movie.

So many bigoted racist fuckheads on this thread. Jesus.

Let's not rewrite history. BSA was between Angela and JLC, with almost everyone on here hoping JLC would lose. Angela was leading the predictions on the night actually with JLC a close second. So what if it was a superhero movie? She clearly did something right to be up for every award (and won some of them including Critics Choice, Golden Globe and SAG for ensemble). The movie also grossed 860 million.

She probably had everyone around her telling her this was hers to lose.

Yes, it was a Marvel movie and one that was rife with grief due the sudden and unexpected loss of Chadwick Boseman (and given the impact of the first Black Panther flick, there was no way a sequel could reach those heights even in the eyes of pop culture) but I swear to god, Bassett showed more acting prowess IN THE DAMN TRAILER than Curtis did running around with hot dogs on her fingers in a movie THAT WAS ALSO ESSENTIALLY A COMIC BOOK MOVIE. *spits*

I was molested

[quote]You would thin that royalty would feel more entitled than gracious.

I don't "thin" that myself, Ricky!

"Remember, Queen, I know just what it's like to be gobsmacked when you lose an Oscar to a no-talent Nepo Baby. Fuck Jamie Lee, and fuck Anjelica too!! Repo those Oscars and send them to us STAT!!"

[quote]She sat there stone faced for about seven seconds, stood up and applauded like everyone else in attendance,

You're so full of shit R38. She's not on camera a lot in the background but watch that fucking purple dress. It NEVER moves for the entirety of JLC's speech, up, down, sideways, backward or forward. And yeah I agree with the posters who say she's not necessarily obligated to show joy but those of you who are trying to beatify her in this thread are liars.

I've been on DL for years but I still don't get the Lorna Luft molested thing....Can someone fill me in?

R57 is off his methadone, analyzing old Oscar speeches like the Zapruder film.

R59 doesn't . . . GET it.

[quote] Fuck off. When has Oprah ever been known to play the race card.

Teacake, you're a stupid as you are high.

Last year's Supporting Actress race was certainly a conundrum. Which overrated, marginally talented, undeserving, massive cunt to give it to? JLC or Angela?

Love Angela but she should NOT have accepted that honorary Oscar.

Fuck her, Stephanie Hsu and Jean Smart were ROBBED!

Poor dear. 10 of the last 18 winners of Best Supporting Actress have been women of color (if you count Penelope Cruz.) And Angie wasn’t one of them. 🙀

Jean Smart?

[quote]Poor dear. 10 of the last 18 winners of Best Supporting Actress have been women of color (if you count Penelope Cruz.)

JFC idiot Americans - Spaniards are not "people of color." They are Europeans, which means they're caucasian. You might as well call the French "people of color" if you think the Spanish are.

R67 People like you who say this are stupid. And blind. Black hair, back eyes, tan. No ones saying how white they are.

r68 Spaniards are caucasian. There are French, Germans and English who have black hair, dark eyes and olive skin. JFC.

It's so odd how so many Americans define "white" as exclusively Nordic/Germanic.

She should have won it for What's Love Got to Do with It. Great performance. Who got it instead?

R69 Still blind hah? And no, one of those other Europeans are as dark as Spaniards.

R70 - Holly Hunter for The Piano.

Angela was definitely Oscar-worthy for What’s Love’s Got to Do With It, but she was unlucky to be nominated against Holly Hunter in The Piano. That was one of the most deserved Oscar wins ever.

r71 you're an idiot.

Poor Viola.

Blacks were last decade. We're giving it to Asians now, and/or people in Asian movies

R57 exactly. And of course Oprah is so far up Angela’s ass she can’t see daylight by telling her she handled it well and this queen bullshit. She sat there Oprah. Stonefaced and looking like a cunt. Not the great thespian you think she is, because she couldn’t even act a fake smile. Even children who have lost acting Oscars have done a better job at concealing their disappointment. Angela has lost more awards than she has won. Countless Emmys in fact. She won the globe and critics choice awards, but lost at BAFTA and then at SAG to Curtis. You think this would’ve told her nothing was certain and she didn’t have it in the bag. Im no fan of Curtis’s work in EEAAO, but they rewarded her also for her 45 year career, which gave her the edge over Bassett. And the Academy giving her an honorary one, when there’s other black actresses more deserving, and just a few months after her Oscar loss, let everyone know just how easily the board of governors is manipulated by giving underserved statues.

I think they make these shows for the stars.

She's always been a sour grapes person in regards to the Oscars.

She belittled Holly Hunter for just play a mute on Andy Cohen's show.

She also criticized Halle Berry for taking the role in Monster's Ball. (She claims to have turned it down. The producers came out and said she was never offered it.)

AB: We are queens! My mother, my auntie, you! And so often black women have been considered at the low end of the totem. Oprah: No. You brought the queen, oh you brought the queen!

Now sashay away.......

[quote] It's so odd how so many Americans define "white" as exclusively Nordic/Germanic.

We don't make the rules, dear, we just live by them.

Viola hijacked and ran away with Angela's act years ago.

Oscar so nepo.

Of all of the “they’ve earned it” Angela deserved it.

Dreadful in almost everything except the Tina movie.

Does an honorary Oscar look like the real one? Is it smaller? Made of tin? If not, she needs to shut up and carry on. She's a lot luckier than most.

R86 same size as a competitive one. Agree. STFU. You got the Oscar one or another ok. And it was totally undeserved.

One way ^

R69 White Americans go by the Klu Klux Klan ideology of white.

They always mock black people and other races but they are the biggest gatekeepers.

Even textbook whites aren’t even white to them.

It’s all based on their perception.

Black is black and Asian is Asian but white is subjective.

Sorry, but Angela did nothing Oscar worthy in that role in Black Panther II. She's not entitled to one because Chadwick Bosman unfortunately passed away.

[quote]Even textbook whites aren’t even white to them.

They even think Ryan Phillippe, who could've been the Aryan Poster Boy, isn't white and looks mixed race because he has curly hair and a broad nose. It's totally ignorant and ridiculous.

Every Oscar nominee should make this clip mandatory viewing!

Seriously, did she really think she'd win for a Marvel movie?

LOL.

Seriously r93. It's a comic book Marvel movie no matter how you look at it.

And I'm saying this as a person who thinks Jamie Lee is an insufferable bore and I don't think she should've won either.

I would have voted for Kerry Condon. By far the best performance in that category that year.

[quote] Seriously, did she really think she'd win for a Marvel movie?

Why not? Are Oscars only reserved for depressing, miserable, maudlin art-house movies that make $30 dollars at the box office and are on Netflix two weeks after their run? And she also won the Golden Globe and Critic’s Choice Awards.

No one complained about Gosling being nominated for a movie about a child’s plastic doll.

Not all award-winning performances require Frances McDormand to go unbathed for two months.

[quote]Are Oscars only reserved for depressing, miserable, maudlin art-house movies that make $30 dollars at the box office and are on Netflix two weeks after their run?

No. Oscars are reserved for good movies and actors who demonstrate technical excellence in the craft. A movie can be a blockbuster and still be well contructed. An actor can turn in an excellent performance in a bad movie that made a lot or almost no money.

The point is that Marvel movies lack the depth to convey true character arcs which showcase an actor's acting talent. At best, we get melodramatic shouting and tears, but little in the way of a good performance.

^^^further, the fact that the Oscars have become the People's Choice Awards is mostly irrelevant, as is the fact that Oscars have in the past and will likely in the future be awarded for garbage.

[quote]No one complained about Gosling being nominated for a movie about a child’s plastic doll.

They sure as fuck did.

8 black women have won the Supporting Actress award since 2006. Almost half. No racism in that category.

Angela they just weren't that into you.

[quote] Angela has lost more awards than she has won.

As have Meryl, Glenn, Sigourney, Bette Davis, Hitchcock, Dafoe, Bening, Pfeiffer, Nolte, et al.

That’s the nature of awards: you lose more than you win.

Pointless and reaching accusation.

[quote]That’s the nature of awards: you lose more than you win.

Nah. I won both times.

[quote] Nah. I won both times.

And now you star in fundie movies and had a network show that was cancelled and forgotten after 11 episodes.

RIP, “Alaska Daily.”

R36 — I don’t see how under-selling Emma Stone’s talent (her abilities are much more than “average”) helps to make your point.

Viola Davis is talented and so is Emma Stone. Except for “The Curse” Stone’s career has focused on films, whereas Davis accepted the lead in a mediocre TV series which largely squandered her talent. I don’t judge her for that, she may have been very happy to be in a regular series drawing a weekly paycheck. But these decisions have consequences, and “How to Get Away With Murder” may have convinced many she would not be a viable box office draw as the lead in a film.

Stone gets good parts in big, edgy movies and TV series because some of the most talented people in the business want to work with her. And they want to work with her because she’s GOOD.

[quote] The point is that Marvel movies lack the depth to convey true character arcs which showcase an actor's acting talent. At best, we get melodramatic shouting and tears, but little in the way of a good performance.

So "Moonstruck" was a Marvel movie?!

The reason Angela Basset did not win was because they KILLED HER GODDAMN CHARACTER without giving her a chance to complete her arc. You can’t just have a great performance and then a piano falls on her head. You need a resolution. Deidre got a resolution.

Additionally,

Jamie Lee wisely made her pre-Oscar wins both all about herself and not about herself at all. She made it about people just like her. Most people who become actors are like this. They have histrionic personalities. This is what they are like all the time. I guarantee there were actors watching to this at home crying their eyes out. When her voice breaks when she says “Is that ever going to be possible for me,” that is how every single person who becomes an actor feels. She spoke to all of them in ways Basset did not.

Davine Randolph’s speech yesterday also hit these notes.

[quote] Additionally,

Jamie Lee wisely made her pre-Oscar wins both all about herself and not about herself at all. She made it about people just like her. Most people who become actors are like this. They have histrionic personalities. This is what they are like all the time. I guarantee there were actors watching to this at home crying their eyes out. When her voice breaks when she says “Is that ever going to be possible for me,” that is how every single person who becomes an actor feels. She spoke to all of them in ways Basset did not.

Davine Randolph’s speech yesterday also hit these notes.

This was the same speech where she tearfully claimed she was the child of “immigrants.”

Her mother was born in California and her father was born in Harlem.

She’s a lying, manipulative bitch.

I actually hate Jamie Lee Curtis, who over the course of the last 5 years has proven herself to be a far more treacly, disgusting, narcissist pig person than I ever could have imagined. She didn't deserve her Oscar, but the bitch did work for it like a fucking prostitute. Angela Bassett is also a cunt. Two things can be true at once.

Who is this idiot arguing on this thread that Spaniards aren’t white. Yes Spaniards can be people of color if they are of Egyptian or Ethiopian descent but by far Spaniards are ethnically white. More so than most Americans being white. Most Spaniards are not of the African diaspora and are considered by our social construct that is race to be Caucasian.

Teacak is back from his early evening drug binge.

[quote] Who is this idiot arguing on this thread that Spaniards aren’t white. Yes Spaniards can be people of color if they are of Egyptian or Ethiopian descent but by far Spaniards are ethnically white. More so than most Americans being white. Most Spaniards are not of the African diaspora and are considered by our social construct that is race to be Caucasian.

What the fuck does this have to do with that hermaphrodite stealing my Oscar?!?

Focus!

R111 No my dude is still here. He’s watching ESPN and I’m cleaning up while mindlessly posting 😂

Angela was also very good in Waiting to Exhale, which is a bit uneven and Boyz N Hood. That entire cast is actually excellent in that.

Didn’t actors used to just congratulate the winner and shut up?

R3 spoken like a true broken spirit.

[quote] No my dude is still here. He’s watching ESPN and I’m cleaning up while mindlessly posting 😂—Teacake

More lies. Muriel is gonna ban your druggie ass.

R117 It’s ok boo you will find love too.

[quote] It’s ok boo you will find love too.—Teacake

Like you did at the end of a crack pipe?

Jamie Lee is stroking her dick RIGHT NOW

R119 It’s ok boo. It’s gon be ok. Everything will be just fine.

Jesus Christ.

Curtis won and Bassett was disappointed.

Big fucking deal.

Sigourney Weaver lost and looked sour for six seconds too. So did Sissy Spacek and Lauren Bacall.

Not exactly career-defining moments.

This Teacake thing. Another poster who tries to take over this forum with his mental illness. Kill it with fire.

Marvel doesn't allow for character development.

Says someone who did not see the Marvel Endgame cycle, the Spiderman films, Wandavision, or Loki.

Looks like the "Spanish aren't caucasian" shits passed out tonight.

R124 To me Wakanda universe and Iron Man were films much character development.

She wasn't owed an award, what a poor sport.

R 20 nailed it. I had it on in the background on mute . These narcissists. Overpaid pricks with fucking dream jobs luck and nepotism and I give zero fucks when I was younger I guess I like it but now I have perspective and the whole thing makes me ill and learning to live the run in sentence

Again, this Teacake thing. Can he just die already? I'm assuming he's a he.

Makes complete sense to me.

R96 Ryan was nominated like Angela and didn’t win either.

R110 Keep telling yourself that. You're real married to the idea but it isn't true. They're as dark as Mexicans.

R132 I tried telling her that on the set. She said she was pure Basque, but we all knew her father was from Guadalajara. Put her in the sun for an hour, and she turned as dark as a Kikuyu.

I always find it 'special' that Oprah so enjoys opening wounds that would be better left to quietly fade away. She has a mean-ass bitch streak in her soul that refuses to be satisfied. I sometimes wonder what motivates her to be so damned obnoxious and entitled. She has to be Hell to live with.

JLC deserved it.

"but you were still as gracious as a queen would be."

What's with the "queen" thing and Black women? You're not queens, OK? You're mere subjects just like the rest of us so get the fuck over it.

[quote] She sat there stone faced for about seven seconds, stood up and applauded like everyone else in attendance, went to all the after parties with her family and smiled like a good sport and has never mentioned it again.

Shhh, r38, you’re spoiling their narrative.

no r122

Sissy never looked defeated when she lost to Halle Berry. She knew that was coming. Don't DISPARAGE SISSY!!!!

JLC deserved what?

R128 Because when they came for you I stood up for you. No matter what I stood up for you.

They even asked. Would you pop your booty to save his life. And just like that…I started twerking on site. That’s how much I cared about saving your life.

Oops my comment was meant r129. It’s gon get better.

[quote] It’s gon get better.

Yes it is. As soon as the Narcan stops working for you.

I haven’t read the article. Is race even mentioned? Or is it just two women talking about one losing the Oscar?

Seems like Daralounge turned this into a race thing - immediately. Daralounge does hate black people in general and just assume every grievance is about Race.

[quote] Seems like Daralounge

Oh dear. X2.

Can you answer my question R144? Is race mentioned in the article?

why can't you read the article yourself r145?

Read the fucking article yourself, Mary Ingalls. I'm not your lackey.

R101 my point was Bassett should’ve been at the very least consciously been used to losing awards, therefore not building herself up for an Oscar win here. It helps if you have the ability to read between the lines Sherlock.

Ok I did r147 and my suspicions were confirmed. There is nothing about race mentioned. But I guess when two black people talk about an issue, a good number of Dataloungers ONLY see a race issue - as witnessed by the number of WW for r5 and r13.

This is the slow boil of resentment that turns people into MAGAts. Of course in the beginning it’s NO, NO, NO. But eventually there is a BUT. Then those BUTS build up until find yourself on the other side. Instead of looking at issues individually, you just begin to look for confirmation of your opinions in every issue, even in places where they don’t exist.

It’s not a far reach that white gay males, who would be the biggest benefactors of what society has to offer, if it weren’t for the pesky Gay thing , would feel this way. Ostracized from their own camp with all the trans issues, it makes sense they would find comfort in the bigoted beliefs of their forefathers. And it’s happening.

If Donald Trump reversed his stance on gay issues and gave up on the fake Bible thumping, white gay males would flood his ranks, trust me. Actually that would be very smart for him to do. Because white gay males are certainly ripe for the picking now as a disenfranchised group.

If you break all down, it would look something like this:

Abortion is not an issue that will ever really touch gay men’s life. The major concern is the overall sentiment of limiting rights. The abortion rights issue is just a surrogate for fears over the overturning of gay marriage.

The state of things now, Trumps “Build a Wall” seems less and less like a horrible idea.

Maybe stop and frisk was not such a horrible idea and police brutality against black people was over blown. Maybe it’s be better to have safe streets in exchange for the occasional trampling of human rights. Blacks are entitled and out of control anyway.

Who wants a cake baked by someone who hates them anyway? It’s probably tainted. And honestly, do drag queens really need to be reading to Children? And this whole trans issue is out of control - it’s just leads to a bunch of purple haired non-binaries championing Hamas and destroying valuable artwork.

You just really have gun violence - but even the Dems can’t seem to handle that one.

So if Trump backed off or even flipped and guaranteed gay marriage rights, he’d have a whole swarm of voters.

Can someone explain what “tactics” JLC used to win?

R151, she did the penis helicopter live on stage at the Pink Pussycat right after the two midgets with the firehose.

She's just so beautiful.

Angela's been doing face yoga just by talking way before it was in vogue.

LADY O feeling she needs a primetime ABC special to explain the whole Weight Watchers debacle, as if she is making a presedntial address, is very typical of this blatant egomaniac. That she feels entitled to bestow who she thinks should won the Oscar on a fellow black actress should be a sign that the bitch be getting old, and maybe she is slipping up. She blew out of proportion the Meghan/Harry dark skinned baby crap, knowing that sound bite would juice up the ratings. When will America flush this turd down the drain?

[quote] JLC deserved what?

A circumcision.

Jamie Lee Curtis may not have deserved an Oscar for her performance, but neither did Angela Bassett.

Speaking with a regal accent while wearing funny hats doesn't exactly scream "Oscar material!"

Hong Chau and Kerry Condon were both more deserving of the statuette that year.

How could you be gobsmacked when everyone saw how hard JLC was campaigning? She made Melissa Leo look like Woody Allen.

[quote]It's so odd how so many Americans define "white" as exclusively Nordic/Germanic.

Most Americans are of German descent.

In particular, the Midwest (i.e. 'All-American') was settled by Germans and Scandinavians.

Well-bred people don't make these sorts of comments about themselves.

Oprah is a fucking cunt. As pointed out upthread, she loves digging into people's pain, and (I would add) in some cases, elevate them when she believes they missed out. WTF is she to second guess the Academy? What a passive-aggressive monster, to bring up such a moment, then blow smoke up Angela's arse with that QUEEN BS.

I came into this thread under the impression that JLC was given the award to make her go away. I find her a bit much.

Having seen just the SAG clips upthread, I would give an award to JLC over Angela any day. Angela's accent was STUPID and ridiculous. Whatever she was doing, she shouldn't even have been nominated for it. She's stunning and has worn some great outfits, but she had no business being a part of the awards season last year.

R134 Oprah became popular through trash TV. Her TV show didn’t become more polished and “uplifting” until the 90’s. Her roots are in trash TV and stirring up drama.

Mo’nique hates her and won’t kiss her ass and called her out at a party and the story is hilarious.

Oprah tried to surprise Mo’nique by bringing her estranged family on the show. Mo’nique wasn’t having it.

Oprah definitely misses the spotlight and being worshipped.

She has not been able to grab generations after Gen X and that even might be a stretch. And so she has generations of people who don’t give a shit about her because her show has been off the air for so long.

She’s very much fading into obscurity and losing power and she probably hates that.

And sorry forgot to add to my R163, that’s why she does specials and won’t do another TV show because there’s a chance that it will absolutely bomb or the ratings would fuck her up cause anyone under 40 wouldn’t watch the show.

SHE WAS A LITERAL QUEEN.

Oprah being on every single cover of O Magazine for over 20 years still cracks me up. What a WANKER, and more fool the stupid fraus who bought it and watched her stupid show.

With her recent weight loss, she reminds me of Star Jones losing all that weight after gastric surgery because she still has a 🏀 for a head.

Angela agreeing to be interviewed by 🏀 was a bad idea. Agreeing with 🏀 about handling her loss with dignity was also a bad move. It was hard for her to lose, a big disappointment, and nothing else needed to be said.

Angela Bassett, who looks 20 years younger than she is, is about to sign on to the newest “Star Wars” film and is the star and producer of one of the top shows on network TV.

Jamie Lee Curtis, who looks like Austin Pendleton’s skeleton, just finished a supporting role in a Pamela Anderson movie about a stripper.

Awards are near-meaningless to a successful career.

R167 Angela Bassett needs the cash to keep up on her surgical procedures.

Jamie Lee Curtis doesn't give a fuck.

I was delighted when Angela Bassett lost last year. Not because I dislike her (I think she is often wonderful), or because I thought she was bad in BP2, but because it was a merely decent part in a fairly mediocre Marvel sequel. Nothing more. She elevated it to a certain level, and her character dies in the film, but that's it. And I did not want to see that rewarded.

I would have voted for Kerry Condon. She was the rightful winner. And I'm glad she won the BAFTA.

All that said, I didn't hate Jamie Lee Curtis's victory. It was an exciting moment, and a bit of a surprise given that so many assumed it was time for Bassett's ordination. And JLC got lucky. Her film swept the Oscars last year, and she got caught up in the movement.

I do respect Bassett for admitting that she was surprised, upset and disappointed. She had every right to be. But the Academy should NEVER have so quickly given her an honorary Oscar right after this snub. That was a tacky mistake. And so obvious.

Angela Basset has always been open and honest about her Oscar losses and I find it refreshing. And she doesn't need Oprah to pull I out of her. What I find crazy about this clip is that she is talking about losing on Oscar next to an Oscar winner who lucked out, more so than anything else, when she got hers.

[quote] But the Academy should NEVER have so quickly given her an honorary Oscar right after this snub.

A quick correction to an error that was obvious to all.

[quote] That was a tacky mistake.

That would have been awarding Curtis’ barely-there, comic-book film performance and narcissistic begging.

R170 This isn't a good look for Bassett. She comes across as nothing more than a bitter also-ran.

It’s true that Angela was more deserving than Jamie Lee Curtis. Curtis as a nepo baby was handed the honor for more than just portraying someone with hot dog fingers.

R166, so what? Martha Stewart did the exact same thing.

[quote]It’s not a far reach that white gay males, who would be the biggest benefactors of what society has to offer, if it weren’t for the pesky Gay thing , would feel this way.

JFC you're an ignorant cunt.

Perhaps Fran Lebowitz was right when she said all the good ones died from AIDS

Her speech at Oprah’s Legends Ball was beyond cringe.

Angela Bassett is an unprofessional d-list cunt.

R176 Ugh, I forgot about that. It was, in terms of class and glamour, the polar opposite of Capote's Black and White Ball. Instead of tasteful celebrities showing their best sides, you got young Black women being dragged around a tent by elderly Black women, plus Oprah slapping her name and face on everything. The cow has no taste.

Oprah's Legends Ball - she caught a lot of hell for the black legends she didn't invite to the ball (that didn't go unnoticed to the media): Donna Summer, Dionne Warwick and Whoopi Goldberg.

Angela is working overtime to send a message to Academy voters that she better win an Oscar the next time she's nominated and you know what, it may just work.

R180 I think she just ensured she'll never get nominated again, even if she plays a black Holocaust survivor.

Miss Warwick was front and center at the Legends Ball.

Bitch didn't invite Donna Summer, though.

Bassett is not even a good actress. OK, so she looks really good but her performances are like a broken record of staginess, overacting and imperiousness. Pick any part she's played and it's always ACTING, ACTING, ACTING. If there's anyone who doesn't deserve any Oscars it's her but she got one because she cried loud enough.

You don't win an Oscar for a mainstream comic book performance unless you play the Joker. Thems the rules. It also helps if you die (see, Heath Ledger).

[quote]It also helps if you die (see, Heath Ledger).

Only if you're white.

You can't compare Chadwick Boseman (RIP) as Black Panther to Heath Ledger (RIP you drug addled ass) as the Joker. Ledger gave a brilliant performance.

As far as comic book/scifi movie performances go IMHO there have only been three who stood out as extraordinary. Heath Ledger as the Joker, Sigourney Weaver as Ripley and Alec Guinness as Obi Wan Kenobi.

Alec Guinness especially. He played Obi Wan Kenobi like he was playing King Lear. He elevated the ridiculous dialogue and bizarre plot as if it were Shakespeare. Star Wars never would have been the hit it was without him.

When did Angela get an Indian weave?

It's a NATIVE AMERICAN weave! What are you, RACIST? My parents were immigrants, you know.

no it's Indian as in hair from India.

[quote] Pick any part she's played and it's always ACTING, ACTING, ACTING.

What a shocking thing for an actor to do.

Watching her emote gives me TMJ.

I like how Oprah gives Angela advice on how to teach children.

[quote] You can't compare Chadwick Boseman (RIP) as Black Panther to Heath Ledger (RIP you drug addled ass) as the Joker. Ledger gave a brilliant performance.

Boseman was not nominated for Black Panther. He was posthumously nominated for "Ma Rainey's Black Bottom" -- a worthy performance -- but lost to Anthony Hopkins in "The Father."

Ledger's performance as The Joker is legendarily overrated. He won because he died and maybe should have won for "Brokeback Mountain."

Hold my Geritol.

Best part of that video: Sally Costco.

R194 Agree on Ledger. He was amazing in "Brokeback Mountain," but had he not died, his performance as The Joker would have been easily forgotten.

It was a cartoon performance.

Jamie is an annoying narcissist, but Angela is a narcissistic talentless black succubus!

She deserved the award more for What's Love Got To Do With It.

I don’t think she’s talentless at all. I think she should not have turned down MONSTER’S BALL. SHE would have been more believable than Halle Berry was. She also made WAITING TO EXHALE better than it was. She complained about the nudity and sex scenes in MB which is why she allegedly turned down the job. But I think she would have been able to get the director to compromise on those issues.

[quote] And the Academy giving her an honorary one, when there’s other black actresses more deserving

Out of curiosity, who?

It’s the attitude of sheer entitlement that gets me with actors. It’s not a pleasant personality trait. Bunch of Marys.

Do you really need to ask, R201?

Black actors and actresses haven’t had the opportunities to develop a strong body of work in film to warrant honorary awards, unfortunately. The overwhelming majority of honorary Oscar recipients have dozens of films that they are honored for. Denzel should get one.

Does Denzel really need an honorary Oscar? He already has two competitive ones.

Denzel will get one when he’s in his 80s. As will Tom Cruise.

[quote] Black actors and actresses haven’t had the opportunities to develop a strong body of work in film to warrant honorary awards, unfortunately.

Diasgree. In most instances, Black actors only have opportunities to develop a body of work that would warrant honorary awards. Taraji, Angela, Viola and Halle do not have, and never had, access to the roles that younger white actors like Emma Stone, Jessica Chastain and Michelle Williams get that garner competitive nomination after nomination for little-seen work. Emma, Jessica and Michelle are multiple nominees (and/or winners) but far from the best female actors the industry has to offer.

Angela Bashett

Jamie Lee Curtish

Angela is a hammy, merely adequate actress. Her acting has the depth of a kiddie pool. She doesn't deserve an Oscar. There's a reason why she's been relegated to bit parts in cheesy Ryan Murphy shows for the past decade.

R203 Viola has an Oscar already I believe, for best supporting actress. I think actresses like Angela Bassett are just really scared that each role like this that they are offered will be their last opportunity at an Oscar. I mean when was her last film that could have been competitive? Yet Annette Benning remains a constant also-ran who desperately deserves an Oscar. She should have won 25 years ago for American Beauty. And here we are decades later and still nominated but not winning.

Who says "gobsmacked" these days?

R207 that’s what I said.

[quote] Emma, Jessica and Michelle are multiple nominees (and/or winners) but far from the best female actors the industry has to offer.

And Angela Bassett is?

It's just ridiculous that an actress so lacking in talent and a significant body of work should get an Oscar.

R201 we discussed this on DL a few months ago when the honorary Oscars were announced. Alfre Woodard for one. She has a better film resume than Bassett, and takes bigger chances than Bassett, plus has a previous Oscar nomination and multiple Emmys. She quietly does excellently work, and doesn’t sit there like an entitled asshole when she loses an award. Pam Grier would also be an inspired choice. No major award nominations, but has been in the industry for over fifty years.

[quote] Yet Annette Benning remains a constant also-ran who desperately deserves an Oscar. She should have won 25 years ago for American Beauty. And here we are decades later and still nominated but not winning.

??? I agree Bening is deserving but no more so than Bassett. They both deserve to win an Oscar. Difference is that Bening has been nominated 5 times and will continue to have more opportunities to be nominated and possibly win.

[quote] It's just ridiculous that an actress so lacking in talent and a significant body of work should get an Oscar.

You're just being a contrarian...or worse. She is a very talented actor and has a significant body of work. The Academy obviously recognized it would be even more significant if she were white.

Oprah’s whole career is based on the girl no one wanted. The underdog mentality is exhausting. She angles these trite stories so she may talk about herself some more.

Glenn Close, Annette Bening and Angela Bassett all deserve Oscars.

R216 she has a better body of work on TV, as evidenced by her eight Emmy nominations. Her film career has been spotty at best. She hardly does theatrical films anymore. The honorary Oscar was to make up for the Oscar she lost the Oscar to Jamie Lee and a tremendous joke. Everyone knows it.

Everyone should get an honorary "Participation Oscar" in their swag bag and call it a night.

[quote] She sat there stone faced for about seven seconds

Well thank Jesus that Madonna wasn't on stage or she would've ripped Angie Baby a new one.

[quote] You're just being a contrarian...or worse. She is a very talented actor and has a significant body of work. The Academy obviously recognized it would be even more significant if she were white.

Quote 5 memorable films she has been in. Also, if the Academy recognizes lesser White talent, why haven't they given a career Oscar to Annette Bening, Glenn Close, Amy Adams, Michelle Williams or Michelle Pfeiffer, all of whom have enjoyed much more distinguished careers?

Michelle Pfeiffer does not have a more prolific career than Angela Bassett.

R223 She did until her parts dried up, and the parts dried up.

Dangerous Liaisons, The Fabulous Baker Boys, Batman Returns, Tequila Sunrise, What Lies Beneath, and even stinkers like Love Field and Grease 2.

Angela Bassett, as much as I love her, doesn't have the same record. She played Tina Turner, did the Black Panther movies (and no one wins for a superhero movie unless they die before the ceremony), and ate it up on made-for-TV movies. She's a genuine talent, but she's closer to the Black Brenda Vaccaro than the Black Katharine Hepburn.

unless they die before the ceremony

Didn’t do the trick for me.

Pfeiffer's most acclaimed films include Scarface (1983), Into the Night (1985), The Witches of Eastwick (1987), The Fabulous Baker Boys (1989), The Russia House (1990), Avengers: Endgame (2019), Dangerous Liaisons (1988), Hairspray (2007), Married to the Mob (1988), Ant-Man and the Wasp (2018), The Age of Innocence (1993), Batman Returns (1992), Scarface (1983), Where Is Kyra? (2017), The Prince of Egypt (1998), and Stardust (2007).

I'd say, quite a lot more significantly more distinguished than Angie's, especially since she played principal roles in all of these and not just "second to the guy who runs the CIA."

You can’t even compare Bassett and Pfeiffer. Clearly Pfeiffer has the better films, while Bassett will be coasting on What’s Love and Black Panther for the rest of her life, lamenting on how they didn’t pick the queen to win over Holly and Jamie.

Exactly R227, thank you.

[QUOTE] and even stinkers like Love Field

That was Pfeiffer’s last nomination!

R229 And it was written by a homosexual!

Maybe they could make her an honorary member of MENSA? Not an actual certified member like me, but like a pitty membership.

Bassett getting and much worse ACCEPTING an honorary Oscar is ridiculous. Shame on her. Her filmography is absurd compared to 10 women I can think of ff the bat that would put her resume to some. Michelle Pfeiffer for starters.

I am just happy that both Kim Basinger and Jessica Lange both have Oscars, so I can sleep at night.

[quote]Alec Guinness especially. He played Obi Wan Kenobi like he was playing King Lear. He elevated the ridiculous dialogue and bizarre plot as if it were Shakespeare. Star Wars never would have been the hit it was without him.

R187 Oh, please! STAR WARS was a smash hit because of the space adventures and cool sword fights and special effects and merchandise.

Yes, Guinness received an Oscar nod for Best Supporting Actor, but that just means he easily impressed the Academy Europhiles.

That stuff didn't matter to the young men and boys who made the film a blockbuster.

[quote][R194] Agree on Ledger. He was amazing in "Brokeback Mountain," but had he not died, his performance as The Joker would have been easily forgotten.

If Ledger had not died, I am certain that Robert Downey, Jr. would have won his first Oscar for Tropic Thunder

He had a banner year in 2008 with Iron Man also being released and among the Top 10 grossers of the year.

Not to mention that RDJ had the comeback narrative after his legal/drug issues of the early 2000s.

The other nominees were Josh Brolin in Milk, Philip Seymour Hoffman in Doubt, and Michael Shannon in Revolutionary Road.

Plus, Ledger was in his late twenties. Unlike actresses, the Academy rarely awards actors in their twenties or younger.

Adrien Brody in The Pianist (2002) is the only twentysomething actor to win for Best Actor.

George Chakiris in West Side Story (1961), Timothy Hutton in Ordinary People (1980), Cuba Gooding, Jr. in Jerry Maguire (1996), and Heath Ledger in The Dark Knight (2008) are the only twentysomething actors to win for Supporting Actor.

The median age for Best Actor/Supporting Actor winners seems to be forties or fifties.

Boys n the Hood, What’s Love Got to do with it, Black Panther and the Wakanda Universe, Waiting to Exhale, How Stella Got her Groove Back, Olympus has Fallen, The Score, Akeelah and the Bee, & Malcolm X.

Don’t you cunts ever try it again.

R236 she had small roles in Boyz, Malcom X, and The Score and was completely overshadowed by her male co stars. Olympus Has Fallen, Stella, and Akeelah are hardly memorable and no cares about them. So you’re saying she built her illustrious film career on four films?! I’m including WTE, but even that’s a stretch. She did not deserve an honorary Oscar, no matter how you spin it.

[quote] pitty membership

For people with acne r231

R236 Black Panther? Olympus Has Fallen? The Score?

Oh, honey.

I was laughing too, R239.

Her filmography is just not that impressive. I do love her though.

Now that she's got her Oscar, I hope she gives her jaw a raise.

R235 The Academy has also used Best Supporting Actor as a prize for aging A-listers who got fucked-over throughout their admirable careers. Morgan Freeman, Michael Caine, Alan Arkin, Christopher Plummer, Marty Landau, Sean Connery, etc.

They don't really do this with the other awards. Best Supporting Actress is more likely to go to an up-and-comer than a semi-retiree.

Is it category fraud? Do studios deliberately slot performers under Supporting so they can be sure of getting a win? Of course that's part of it.

Also in the days when the Academy membership was overwhelmingly made up of straight males, a new young actress in town who had a couple of hot films under her belt and looked like she was on the rise was very likely to get votes from men who hoped to meet her, work with her, fuck her.

It was traditionally more difficult for male actors, especially the ones who were attractive, to get votes — the straight male membership felt threatened by actors like Newman and Brando who their wives and girlfriends wanted to fuck, so it took multiple nominations for them to score the big prize.

Paraphrasing Katharine Hepburn in “The Lion in Winter,” never understimate the importance of sex in history.

I love her older or more serious roles, but she is so unbelievably cringey sometimes. She completely overacted American Horror Story: Freak Show and did the same while putting on a fake English accent in Netflix’s recent, pointless Damsel film. It reminded me of Famke Janssen’s awful English accent in Hemlock Grove Season 1 lol. It’s hard to believe the executive producers let it slide.

[quote]Now that she's got her Oscar, I hope she gives her jaw a raise.

Now that she's got her Oscar, I hope she gives her jaw a rest.

There. Fixed that for you R241.

Honorary Oscar recipients should be honest with themselves it's not as meaningful as getting a competitive one. Btw, in movie trailers, Oscar winners are usually preceded with the tag 'Academy award winner'. Will Angela get the same tag? She didn't really win it.

[quote]They don't really do this with the other awards. Best Supporting Actress is more likely to go to an up-and-comer than a semi-retiree.

They did it to Judi Dench. In 1998, the Oscar went to Helen Hunt instead of Judi Dench in Mrs. Brown. So in 1999, they awarded Supporting to Judi for Shakespeare in Love, which was a consolation prize.

Dench wins Oscars because she acts with her nostrils. It’s a skill… 🙄🙄🙄

R248 Come here and say that, you little scruff!

[quote] It’s hard to believe the executive producers let it slide.

The producers have very little power over actresses' bad accents. They're under such constraints to get their movies finished they don't have time to stop and say, "Angela, your English accent sucks, you gotta take some classes."

Didn't Joaquin win for playing the Joker as well? It seems the only comic book based character that gets nominated and wins.

I worked with Kerry Condon right after the BAFTAS and Academy Awards, and she was so relieved not to win the Oscar.

R251 They were probably hoping/assuming he'd die before the ceremony, too.

Not because it's a cursed role, but because Joaquin Phoenix is such a fucking weirdo.

The funny part is she turned down “Monster’s Ball” that got Halle the Oscar lol.

She didn’t deserve that honorary Oscar.

Even if we want to just talk about black actresses, they’re all leaps and bounds ahead of her as far as their resumes go.

Viola, Octavia, Taraji, Halle, Queen Latifah all have had better careers than Angela. Better roles, better movies.

It must have been very hard for Angela to get roles as a black woman but at the same time, there’s black actresses with better careers.

It’s weird to think the roles that went to Viola, Octavia, Halle, etc never were offered to Angela being the name that she was.

Part of me feels like she turned down a lot. Like I said, she turned down “Monster’s Ball” and she also turned down “X-Men” as Storm, which she would have been way better at than Halle.

Angela projects and presents like Viola. Borderline butch. They both insist on wanting to be sexy but their strength is tough. And when they can rein it in and not break into a soliloquy from Hamlet they can be effective.

Another goddess you bitches keep forgetting:

Alfre Woodard.

She's got more talent and experience than Viola OR Angela, but you don't see her bitching about her lack of an Oscar. She focuses on the work.

Alfre should have been nominated for Clemency. She could have won too as it was a weak year.

She was a standout in 12 Years a Slave.

I had written a response invoking Alfre who is, IMO, a much better actress with far greater range than Viola or Angie, but I didn't post. I can only think that those two are much better at screaming for awards than Miss Woodard is and that's why they get so much sometimes undeserved recognition. Squeaky wheels, if you will.

Loretta Devine is another one who can do comedy and drama brilliantly - and though she works constantly, she’s never gotten big film roles worthy of her.

Why doesn’t she give it a rest???

Alfre Woodard deserves an Oscar.

Yes she does. And so does Loretta.

I've worked with Alfre twice, and she's a very down to earth woman who doesn't expect for you to bend over backwards for her, but people will do it because she's so nice and unassuming.

Alfre knows you won't bend over backwards for her.

I remember seeing Alfre in L.A. Law back in the 80s. Can't remember what she played...rape victim?? But she was a standout then. She deserves all good things and it's nice to hear she's as nice as she is talented.

I liked Alfre Woodard in “Extremities” with Farrah Fawcett and Diana Scarwid.

In Extremities doesn't Alfred have this brilliant exchange with Diana:

Shut up!

No, you shut up!

^Alfre!

Alfre is in Searching for Debra Winger talking about aging in Hollywood. One thing she mentions is people eating sandwiches while she is auditioning. You can imagine Angela or Viola telling about this and being furiously indignant but Alfe makes her resentment of it funny.

They're awards, not entitlements for those with undue feelings of entitlement.

Alfre Woodard was also great in Star Trek First Contact. She played a 21st Century scientist who helped to invent Warp Drive and encountered a time-traveling Picard.

Not that she was ever in anything Oscar worthy, but Lynn Whitfield is another black actress who deserved more opportunities because of her talent. Her career should have skyrocketed after the Josephine Baker Story, which she was amazing in and won an Emmy for in 1991. But Lynn and Alfre both came up in a time when black actresses just weren't nominated and the roles were very few and far between. I think only Denzel, Morgan Freeman and Whoopi Goldberg were the only black actors Hollywood recognized for years - until Halle. And that kind of opened up the gates to black newcomers who were not already major Hollywood Stars at that point to be nominated.

[quote]Pam Grier would also be an inspired choice. No major award nominations, but has been in the industry for over fifty years.

I'd love to see this happen. She's always been great in roles that were rarely written for critics to drape praise over, let alone win awards. That she earned the praise anyway is no mean feat and makes her more deserving of the lifetime award than many others. If there were more gay academy members then Pam Grier would be the kind of artist they would lean towards, but that is not the direction they are going in.

Pam Grier looking fantastic in middle age

I thought she would have a career resurgence after Jackie Brown, but it didn't happen. Quentin does love her, named his cafe after her:

She went on The L Word but played it straight.

Pam Grier deserved the honorary Oscar far more than Queen Bassett.

All of you bitches are wrong on this one.

I’d love to see Jada get an honorary Oscar. Just to see someone smack her upside her bald head with it.

R278 Keep my wife's name out your FUCKING mouth!

This is the end of your rotten life you DOPE PUSHER!

Angela Bassett should have won for Tina Turner, not Black Panther.

Holly Hunter won that year for The Piano. The other nominees were Stockard Channing for Six Degrees of Separation, Emma Thompson for The Remains of the Day, and Debra Winger for Shadowlands.

Did they make the right choice back then? Was Hunter the better actress that year? It's actually a tough call.

Gobsmacked? Is that a fancy word for gang-banged?

[quote]Was Hunter the better actress that year? It's actually a tough call.

Not for me it isn't. I loathed "The Piano."

Horrible actress. She only can play a cunt because she is a cunt. She made the charismatic and extremely likable Tina Turner seem like a bitch. Tina Turner is probably one of the most wonderful people to have ever lived and Angela made her into a gruff and curt cartoon character.

Does she have a square tit?

I thought Angela Davis was a college professor.

Pam Grier could have been a good Tina Turner in that movie.