What's REaLLY Goong on with KAte Middleton

My name Goong!

Absolutely nothing, OP. There hasn’t been a “Kate Middleton” since April 2011.

She's fucking Frankie Muniz.

Malcolm in the Middleton.

Lazy. Both of them.

I don’t know, but whatever it is it’s surely Meghan Markle’s fault!

[quote] She's fucking Frankie Muniz.

That's Chee!

Complete mental breakdown.

You know r7, I didn't think of that until you posted it but now that you did....

Being Perfect isn't easy.

GOonG GOonG GONE!

I think she's dying

[quote]What's REaLLY Goong on with KAte Middleton

Oh DEAR!

They said "abdominal surgery" - iirc it was a "planned" surgery. But 2 weeks in hospital afterwards? I'm stumped. And I think they announced the lengthy recovery before the surgery, so they knew what was up?

I don't even have a guess.

OP? Why no Vivian Vance?

My rather gossipy GP mentioned this to me during my recent office visit. Unprompted by me he asked me what I thought was going on with the Princess of Wales (he referred to her as Kate Middleton). I said I didn't know, but that I did think the situation sounded a bit off. He told me 'Nobody's in the hospital for two weeks for abdominal surgery.'

FWIW my partner is a clinical psychologist and his guess is that Kate has an eating disorder, which is something that can require a prolonged hospital stay.

[quote]his guess is that Kate has an eating disorder,

This sounds plausible.

Does anyone really miss her?

I said in another thread I thought it was anorexia/bulimia.

She put the Tramp in trampoline accident.

Bird flu. Everyone thought the feathered hair was a fashion statement when it was actually a deadly symptom.

I think people assume it is something that the family wants to hide because they are not being transparent. If you want to shut people up, be honest. That said, a prolonged ED can cause a lot of problems that can lead to hospitalization.

I think Kate Middleton has secretly run off with Thomas Kingston and have joined Lord Lucan at a undisclosed hideaway somewhere on earth

You heard it here first

I think a poster in another thread figured it out. Kate and William are high-functioning, long term junkies and she's having some kind of health problem relating to IV drug use. Maybe an abscess.

The Princess of Wales has died.

They say men marry their mothers, and Diana had an eating disorder, so is it far fetched that he married someone similar?

she's not skinny enough to be hospitalized for eating disorder. I know because one of my nieces is anorexic.

I think she's in a loony-bin somewhere shouting over and over...

The Princess is suffering from Post prostate abortion bulimia.

She's going through the same shit that other poor Monaco princess went through. Also, the Japanese one.

It is my belief that they done the old woman in.

. Why should she die of influenza when she’d come through diphtheria right enough the year before? Fairly blue with it, she was. They all thought she was dead, but my father, he kept ladling gin down her throat. Then she come to so soon, she bit the bowl off the spoon.

Now what call would a woman with that strength in her have to die of influenza? And what become of her new straw hat that should have come to me?

Somebody pinched it, and what I say is, them as pinched it, done her in.

They had to erase this message from her abdomen.

The Royal Baby Factory has been closed and it was disassembled.

I wish I could shimmy like my sister Kate.

We tried to warn her not to eat anything Camilla gave her...

Vag reconstruction didn’t take the first time so they have to redo it. William is off somewhere with Rose because he can do overnights with Kate on the lam.

R27 wins this thread.🤣

William bashed her in the head on the 28th and she was in a coma following

Has anyone checked on the whereabouts of the Bermuda Triangle at the time of her disappearance?

I don't wish Kate harm, but I don'y give a fuck about any of these people, now that QE2 is gone. It doesn't even resemble a royal family. It's an ongoing Jerry Springer episode.

Searched around the Internet and found this guess:

Aortic aneurism. 1) In spite of the word aorta, it is an abdominal surgery and depending on the location of the aneurism, might require major abdominal surgery. 2) The recovery time in hospital is about 2 weeks 3) Total recovery is 2-3 months

I agree with those who say she simply isn’t thin enough for an eating disorder to be the issue. She might have an eating disorder, but not severe enough to require her to disappear for months or for her hair to fall out.

Cancer seems unlikely only because they explicitly denied it.

Crohn’s disease requiring surgery and a colostomy bag still makes the most sense to me. Crohn’s can cause hair loss and she went from extensions to a full wig (at least some of the time) in September. There are a few photos of her pre-marriage before she went to full time extensions that show a lot of variation in her hairline and the fullness of her hair so it’s possible she has been dealing with issues for decades. The long term hair loss and colostomy bag (that probably isn’t the right term) might make her and her handlers especially motivated to maintain her privacy. The extended recovery, and her long-term extreme leanness also fit with a chronic bowel condition. Any of those things could also be due to other factors, but Crohn’s fits with all of them.

I would think that at her age the short to medium term prognosis after bowel surgery would have been pretty good. But it does seem like something it up. A photo or video might be considered invasive, but some sort of message from her along the lines of, “Thanks for all the well-wishes. Looking forward to thanking some of you in person when I can resume my schedule.” could have been released.

So now I’m thinking it’s a significant medical issue, plus something else. I don’t think they would invent abdominal surgery or lie outright about cancer, so I’m still thinking Crohn’s, but it’s Crohn’s plus divorce or mental health crisis or the surgery went OK (because they released her) but she simply isn’t healing or absorbing food adequately.

I doubt one of the kids his having an issue because I assume the press would have covered that. They are clearly accommodating the BRF wrt Kate’s privacy, but I don’t think they would fail to over if if one of the kids wasn’t in school.

Her sister has been on vacation rather publicly so I doubt there is significant risk of imminent death, but it does seem lien a serious situation.

Can she be called "Princess Catherine" -- or is she technically only, "Catherine, Princess of Wales"?

I have a devil of a time keeping up with all these titles and the protocol... I did hear Meghan, if she divorced Harry, would be Meghan, the Princess Henry.

Except I thought Americans weren't supposed to have titles? Read that Anthony Hopkins shouldn't be called Sir any more now that he's an American citizen. But Meghan always has been ???

Uncontrollable diarrhea

They were fine about talking about her excessive morning sickness so it stands out that they won't tell the public what this is. So I think it's something embarrassing like issues because of an eating disorder or another addiction.

Damage from too much PEGGING.

Or... is that William?

[quote] I said in another thread I thought it was anorexia/bulimia.

Everyone has been guessing that since day one.

But the Klan Grannies keep denying it.

Welp, now they can't deny that SOMETHING is definitely wrong with her, and quite suspicious.

She's been absent for months now, and it's very, very, very unusual.

She's transitioning.

What's really going on dear..

I theorise she has a stoma and doesn’t want to wear her colostomy bag in public.

She had every racist bone removed from her body.

[quote]He told me 'Nobody's in the hospital for two weeks for abdominal surgery.'

A clinical psychologist isn't the best person to weigh in on abdominal surgery. Some of us with Crohn's or ulcerative colitis (present company included) had stays of similar durations. It typically means you're unusually ill and experienced complications. None of this might apply to her situation but it's on the short list of possibilities.

@r49, "She had every racist bone removed from her body. "

That's silly, William hasn't fucked her in years

She’s fine. She sends her love.

[quote]I theorise she has a stoma and doesn’t want to wear her colostomy bag in public.

Those are easy to hide - you'd never know if she had one if she wears the right clothes.

For those talking about complications - they announced in advance that she would have a lengthy stay. Maybe being overly careful but even so?

R50, the person who made that comment was my GP, not my partner.

Okay OP, kudos for the “Cyanide gas canister in an edible arrangement sent anonymously for. l.A.”

That just gave me an unexpected laughing fit. Well done!! LOL

She's fine! She sends her love!

Might not matter to her if a colostomy bag is easy to hide. She may just not want to do it and, if all indications point to it being temporary, why should she? If this is the situation, she has been dealing with a significant health problem for years as well as a likely borderline eating disorder (just because you have a health reason for being thin doesn’t mean you don’t also have issues around food) and had three kids in the midst of it. Maybe she just wants a fucking break to rest and recover. If she’s been ill rather than a little lazy and “family focused” the whole equation changes.

Also, the reason I’m pretty confident that she has some hang ups about weight (I’m not trying to minimize EDs, but I also don’t think she has a full blown ED) is the way she dresses. She doesn’t show a lot of skin, but she does NOT like extra bulk. So that might complicate hiding it.

She also has to avoid coming across in a way that people with permanent bags would be offended by.

So, all in, it makes sense to be that she would just lay low for a few months. But I’d still expect something - a wave from a window or a car, a statement of thanks for get well wishes. It’s odd and worrisome, given how young her kids are.

[quote] That said, a prolonged ED can cause a lot of problems that can lead to hospitalization.

She has a problem achieving erection? That IS a serious concern.

Her collapse is complete.

She'll never be Queen.

I fully realize how shallow this sounds, but I would rather die than have a colostomy bag. I would just call it a life and be done.

R60 I doubt it. You'd probably just adapt. People like to think that they wouldn't accept something but they usually do.

The aortic aneurysm guess is interesting though that affects men more than women. And she quite young. It’s very serious if she does have this.

She choked on something the last time she ate in 1995.

The Queen Mum had a colostomy bag for 30 years.

R64. And she was the Queen of England. I’m not

[quote]For those talking about complications - they announced in advance that she would have a lengthy stay. Maybe being overly careful but even so?

The original statement said "The surgery was successful and it is expected that she will remain in hospital for 10 to 14 days, before returning home to continue her recovery." Ten days for a royal following something like colon removal (particularly via open surgery, rather than laparoscopic) wouldn't be unusual. Padding the estimate for breathing room if she wasn't discharged on time would've been good sense.

[quote]the person who made that comment was my GP, not my partner.

I wouldn't assign much weight to a GP's opinion of abdominal surgery, either. In 30 years of having telltale colectomy scars, I've lost count of how many non-GIs have cluelessly asked "What's that from?"

R57 makes some good points about body image issues and recovery. If she had extensive abdominal surgery, that packs a punch both physically and emotionally. A temporary retreat from public life is understandable, but to have not even given a cursory wave by now is disquieting.

r60 Everyone says that until they get a colostomy bag and see how not big of a deal it actually is.

She got tired and needed a vacation and used her routine surgery excuse to take a break.

For what it's worth, the National Enquirer says that Kate has ovarian cancer, Charles has pancreatic cancer with 6 months to live, and Camilla is secretly battling breast cancer. Back in the day, the Enquirer was usually pretty spot on, but these days I'm not so sure.

I do like the eating disorder theory, though. There's the issue of her taped-up fingers on her right hand. Then I saw another picture where her left hand is covering her right, obscuring those same 2 fingers. Then there's the control issue, first being controlled by her mother and then being controlled by William/the Royal family. Maybe she's not thin enough for hospitalization, but I don't think the powers that be would let her get to that point without intervening first. Maybe she went on a bulimia binge over Christmas.

I'm an unapologetic, unabashed Kate Stan.

I find her paradoxically fascinating - her perfect, skilled boringness keeps me in suspense.

I have no idea what her medical issue is. I've enjoyed reading the informed speculation in this thread.

Being the shallow bitch I am, my only question is: If and when she recovers and resumes public appearances, will she be carrying 5 to 7 lbs more of body weight?

Here's my reason she isn't in public yet - Her wardrobe is being re-tailored and re-curated to accommodate some added body weight.

She's is in her 40s now. I don't care how fit you are, the female body metabolism slows down with the onset of menopause, and, just plain old aging.

[quote] What's REaLLY Goong on with KAte Middleton

Are you having a stroke, OP? What day is it? How many fingers do you see?

^ Do you seriously not understand that type of lettering? 😂

REallY GooNG?

[quote] Those are easy to hide - you'd never know if she had one if she wears the right clothes.

Indeed, but I guess my point is she would be fearful that the adhesive of the colostomy bag could come unstuck (that happens, occasionally but rarely, if the patient didn’t make a good seal) and people could smell it. Look at what a perfect porcelain doll Kate presents herself as. She would never, ever, allow that to happen. She wouldn’t even want people to know. And she wears clothes tailored within an inch of their life. All those tight dresses have no give. (Though that would give further opportunity for shopping).

Diverticulitis and peritonitis are one of the few things that tick the boxes of taking several months of healing without being (at this point) life threatening nor debilitating. Just potentially embarrassing for someone with her image.

And she’d be so secretive about that.

[quote] Can she be called "Princess Catherine" -- or is she technically only, "Catherine, Princess of Wales"?

You may call her Princess William if you like. Only those born royal are truly Princesses.

R65 Obviously.

Pussy cancer! OOOhhhhh!

[quote]She has a problem achieving erection? That IS a serious concern.

It’s common after the prostate surgery she had.

When her mother visited her in the hospital they said she was crying when she came outside. I would think that means that it was something unexpected or something they hoped they would not find. I think whatever it is has been exacerbated by a lot of stress that she has been carrying for some reason.

Sure. Mrs. Middleton was full on CRYING in front of THEM in the hospital. Totally believe that, sure.

She had a BOMB in her RIB CAGE!

I pray she is fine. Always loved her.

I think it’s something serious that includes a colostomy bag and she would never allow herself to be seen in that condition and refuses to discuss it and I don’t blame her one bit, it’s her business.

Vanity is a powerful force.

She might address it once the bag is gone. But I’d assume she doesn’t know for sure if it will be permanently gone until it’s permanently gone. And there is the hair issue, too. It’s a pretty dire situation from a vanity standpoint. If that’s whats’s going on.

^ but if that’s the situation, it doesn’t explain William canceling last minute. But that could have been unrelated. He could have had a migraine or food poisoning.

William, Caligula style, beat her to a pulp to blow off some steam and they had to repair her nose and jaw and let some patches of hair grow back. They threw in a tit job complements of the prince.

Does Launer make colostomy bags?

I know its dark, but it wouldn't surprise me if William did something to her. He seems like an angry, childish, stupid man.

Ozempic gone wrong.

If William had beaten her up Ma Middleton would have been grinning ear to ear, because now she'd have REAL money to keep her from blabbing

If it’s anything psychiatric it would be used to lob bombs at Markle.

I vote stoma. Because princesses don’t shit.

r80 1st: can you read? 2nd you obviously have no understanding of something so dreadful that would make you cry not even noticing who sees you.

[quote] She had a BOMB in her RIB CAGE!

Damn you, Meghan!!

[quote] William, Caligula style, beat her to a pulp to blow off some steam and they had to repair her nose and jaw and let some patches of hair grow back. They threw in a tit job complements of the prince.

He should have just used a bag of oranges.

It won't leave any marks, but it'll mess up her insides!

Crohn’s

For god's sake, I believe William is moody and spoiled, and a pill to live with, but now he's a violent wife-beater. What a crock.

Kate is undergoing some kind of major health crisis and will re-emerge at some future point. Then there will be some answers. For now, it is what it is. And with Charles also undergoing treatment at the same time, we get Camilla; grinning Andrew and Sarah leading the family brigade; and a woozy William doing spotty work duty for whatever reason/s.

[quote] Absolutely nothing, OP. There hasn’t been a “Kate Middleton” since April 2011.

How do you know that?????? Maybe she’s still using her maiden name!

Get it on.

Bang a GOONG.

Get it on!

One of the "royal biographers" talked a bit about Kate this morning (link below):

Tom Bower “...you’re not being told what the surgery was and, as I understand it, it was very serious. I won’t reveal what I have been told it was, but she is seriously ill. It is not fatal; she will recover, but it’s a long healing process and that’s why she has disappeared from view… we do have a crisis for the monarchy at the moment. The king is ill, probably more serious than we realize. The Princess of Wales who is the future for the monarchy and the most wonderful person and asset is seriously ill too. We have the constant problem of Harry and Meghan, the reappearance of Andrew is catastrophic, you know, it is a very very bad time for the monarchy, a bad time for Britain… I think it’s months rather than weeks – I think that Kate’s recovery will be much longer than they originally anticipated…"

Tom about Andrew leading the family to the funeral: "...the real problem is the only person who can tell him to behave properly and disappear is his brother the king and he’s unable or unwilling, clearly ill and not in a position to exert himself, so Andrew just literally boldly pushed himself to the front with his ex-wife – it was absolutely a sight not for sore eyes, it was horrible, and what should the queen and Princess Anne do - push Andrew physically away? I mean this is a man renowned for his self-importance and his appalling manners and lack of discretion… no sense of dignity at all, and all the wrongs he’s done, but this is the problem the men in gray suits I the palaces cannot tell Andrew what to do on an open occasion like that, they fail."

The William no-show wouldn’t have been so bad if Andrew hadn’t led the remaining BRF into the church. I know it was a “private” occasion, not a public one, but Anne and Sir Tim really needed to get out in front of that coterie.

Regular degular?

That Linda chick- the psychic- says that she is dying. No joke. A few of you have mentioned Linda here before.

Gender reassignment and will reemerge as Tony.

What’s the quoting I. R99 referring to about Andrew having done something no one could prevent him doing? What did he do??

I agree with r74 to a large extent except

[QUOTE]Look at what a perfect porcelain doll Kate presents herself as. She would never, ever, allow that to happen. She wouldn’t even want people to know.

She does present herself this way but with regard to a colostomy bag, l think most of us would be porcelain dolls. A poster upthread even said he thinks he'd rather die than deal with one. Think of it. It involves a very private bodily function that is gross and embarrassing if performed or discussed publicly, at least among polite, civil people

But she's in a position that if such a condition were publicly revealed, there'd be a danger of her becoming the butt (no pun intended) of public colorectal and shit jokes. It's not dignified, but you know it would happen. She doesn't need this added strain during recovery. Nobody would.

[quote]A few of you have mentioned Linda here before.

Just the stupid ones.

Don’t look at me!

I think it was organ transplant. Colorectal surgery doesn’t require weeks in the hospital…especially when it was “planned” as they were claiming.

r102 she absolutely did NOT say that.

R109-

Eat my CUNT. And don't accuse me of lying.

From her Community Page-

Linda G the Comanche Psychic 22 hours ago I’m getting a sick feeling that Kate is dying. Just heard it. Just horrible. Makes sense when I did the spread on Prince William as to why he canceled his funeral for his godfather. It’s because of the death card in his house. Poor Kate is really bad.

I'm not opposed to the she's taken mad from the sweating sickness and is locked in the Tower theory.

Assuming she does have a colostomy, which is my guess -

R105 it’s unfortunate that patients suffer the “indignity” of a stoma and it is considered “uncivil” to even dream of having one. I feel more sorry for the patients who don’t have the means to disappear from everyday life because they have a colostomy than I do Kate.

The brave thing to do would be to represent people with stomas by meeting with child patients and showing that you can work out and play sports. (In fact they’re encouraged to). She could do wonders in easing the stigma.

Royalty is all about image. I think William, Harry and Zara would possibly use the occasion for advocacy. But Kate is not that person, and as a married in, the image of control and perfection is the only control she has.

That and she’s not a hard worker and is probably thrilled to be hanging with her kids, unbothered, for 6 months.

Could it be full blown AIDS?

I hope she recovers. I’d hate to think what that would do their children. Forced to be raised by William! God help them.

[quote] Tom about Andrew leading the family to the funeral: "...the real problem is the only person who can tell him to behave properly and disappear is his brother the king and he’s unable or unwilling, clearly ill and not in a position to exert himself, so Andrew just literally boldly pushed himself to the front with his ex-wife

Haha I fucking love it.

Andrew has been treated like absolute SHIT by his family, for the past few years.

Like a dog, being kicked around on the street.

So now that they're all incapacitated, I think it's hilarious that he's pushing his weight around. BECAUSE HE CAN.

Harry should do the same.

It's time for them to take back control of their own lives, without Charles or William telling them what to do .

William can't do SHIT about Andrew right now. He has neither the power, nor the authority to do anything to his Uncle.

This would be a perfect opportunity for Harry to assert himself, as well.

He should grab Meghan and the kids, and start parading all over London.

William won't do a goddamned thing, because he is preoccupied, and has way too many problems of his own.

Do it, Harry!!!!

Meghan R112, your fan fiction is hilarious.

I think she died and they’re preparing one of the clones for public life.

[quote]it’s unfortunate that patients suffer the “indignity” of a stoma and it is considered “uncivil” to even dream of having one.

Gee, I'm confused. Doesn't every girl dream of having a stoma?

R115 sounds as deranged and disordered as Andrew.

Kate had a drinking accident and fell down the stairs. No, no, aliens gave her a brain transplant. She blacked out and shagged Mr. Plum in the Parlor Room with the the candlestick. Princess William was watching and they decided to take some time off for a Jamaican limbo competition. The Queen faked her death! The corgies are the true blue bloods of the British!

I can't believe there are idiots among us quoting psychics. Jesus.

She hasn’t been seen in two months. William keeps canceling appearances and clearing his calendar. There have been no earnest official statements from the RF, and the press have been giving the entire situation a complete bye.

With the king, the RF were forthcoming enough to publicly state first that his prostate had gone haywire and later that it was cancer.

With Megan, the tabloids reported every conceivable facet of her depression and efforts to get mental healthcare.

Unlike with Charles, the RF won’t disclose what is going on with Kate. Unlike with Megan, the press seems completely indifferent to whatever is ailing Kate.

Is it really surprising that people are starting to speculate wildly?

Tells you something about the in manipulation of the media. You can’t trust them.

I agree R122, why haven't they called Oprah yet?

I mentioned in another thread, I think she had an apendectomy, possibly was ruptured. If that's what it is I feel pity for her, not fun.

Then why not say that?

[quote] The brave thing to do would be to represent people with stomas...

A nice sentiment, and to me, an obviously good PR move, but I once tried to make that same argument about the late Queen's refusal to be seen in a wheelchair, and the pearl-clutching Royalist Biddy coalition of the DL was simply ABHORRED by the very thought.

Botched plastic surgery. Half her face spasmed after a badly placed Botox shot. All her hair fell out.

Lord just tell us all or go away, Royals. This is getting tedious.

[quote]I think it was organ transplant.

Does this mean that she finally has a heart?

Vaginal rejuvenation gone horribly wrong?

Nothing to see here . Keep moving peasants.

Vajazzling gone horribly wrong?

R69: The National Enquirer used to be spot on about the health problems of celebrities because they would pay out thousands of dollars to nurses and lab technicians in hospitals, assuring them no one would ever know the source. This is how the information that Anthony Perkins had AIDS was revealed, among many others. Whether that would work in the UK, I don’t know.

But a hysterectomy would certainly require a lengthy hospital stay for someone like her, as well as an extended recovery time, especially considering that when she does return to public life she will be expected to hit the ground running and resume a heavy schedule of appearances lest there be more talk.

Nobody disappears for two months after a hysterectomy. That is ridiculous

And nobody stays in hospital two weeks for a hysterectomy. These days, in the US at least, it's more like two days.

Daily Mail Royals' Richard Eden blames a lot of the conspiracy theories on Meghan and Harry supporters, "I've seen them all the time, even after the tragic death of Thomas Kingston..." (minute 14.40 for that part)

[quote]Daily Mail Royals' Richard Eden blames a lot of the conspiracy theories on Meghan and Harry supporters

He's no doubt a frequent poster on DL's many Klan Granny threads.

R136 In other shock news, you won't believe who Propaganda Minister Goebbels blames for inflation!!!

Appendicitis is usually handled by antibiotics nowadays. A rupture wouldn't be a planned procedure, it's emergency room stuff, life threatening. This whole thing has been handled very badly. Honesty would have been nice.

[quote] Gee, I'm confused

Yeah, you seem so.

[quote]But a hysterectomy would certainly require a lengthy hospital stay for someone like her, as well as an extended recovery time, especially considering that when she does return to public life she will be expected to hit the ground running and resume a heavy schedule of appearances lest there be more talk.

Kate’s never hit the ground running unless she’s playing hockey in 4” heels, and she’s not had heavy schedule of anything since studying for her A levels.

[quote] Kate’s never hit the ground running unless she’s playing hockey in 4” heels, and she’s not had heavy schedule of anything since studying for her A levels.

The consensus seems to be that she’s had bowel surgery (obviously prostate cancer or a sextuplet pregnancy can’t be ruled out completely) , but who knows how debilitating the condition has been up until now. I think she’s been ill for a long time, based mostly on her hair but also on her thinness. The possibility that she’s been struggling with a pretty significant case of IBD or Crohn’s (not sure if those are distinct or overlap) casts her seemingly sparse schedule in a different light.

OTOH, she has always looked extremely fit, albeit thin. And her schedule is probably set up long in advance, without any way of knowing how badly a chronic condition might be flaring up in the future. If she’s been even moderately affected you’d think there would have been many occasions of her canceling last minute. And she did produce three healthy children. In retrospect, maybe the severe morning sickness story was a half-truth. Maybe she wasn’t necessarily vomiting, but having trouble absorbing nutrition.

I can’t think of a worse job for someone with a condition that causes diarrhea than parading in public under intense scrutiny. WTF would she have been thinking?

Is it possible she has cancelled appearances frequently in the past and the media has not covered it? The Daily Mail pretended her ridiculous wig was real last year, maybe they’ve been actively cooperating for a lot longer?

^Knows nothing.

[quote]Daily Mail Royals' Richard Eden blames a lot of the conspiracy theories on Meghan and Harry supporters

And it has zero to do with a high profile, and I believe, the most popular royal disappearing from view due to a vague medical crisis and an even more vague follow up. They do this shit to themselves. It has nothing to do with anyone else. A simple statement, the Princess of Wales had GI surgery, then developed life threatening sepsis which is now under control and is at home resting comfortable and on the mend. Please be aware of the dangers of sepsis and Kate will see y'all at Easter. Deuces.

Then articles will be written about GI stuff and Sepsis and those idiots over in the UK will have a great understanding of these medical issues and be more aware. Win win for everybody.

Colon cancer?

[quote] the most popular royal disappearing from view due to a vague medical crisis and an even more vague follow up. They do this shit to themselves. It has nothing to do with anyone else

EXACTLY!

It just shows to show how fucking creepy the BRF really are, as well as the "Men in Gray" who insist on shrouding this family in a cloak of mystery.

It's CREEPY.

They are literally incapable of telling the truth.

No wonder Harry wanted to get the fuck out of there.

If I had these creepy old men watching my every move, and lying about everything that goes on in Buckingham Palace, I'd want to escape from there too.

It's completely Catherine's choice to talk about her illness. Hope she's feeling better -- I had "abdominal surgery" and it's a little scary at first while recovering.

I hope it’s Chronic Fatigue Syndrome or some other goldbricker’s pseudo malady.

She probably has Morgellons disease.

And the news just came out that Princess Michael's son in law blew his brains out at his parent's house. They also announced - with straight faces, that it's not a suspicious death.

I wonder if this has something to do with Kate's mystery illness?

It's hilarious the royals are asking for privacy. For the past 5 years they've been the main source of most of the articles written about Harry & Meghan. That was reveal in court. The editor of The Mirror was cross examined and he had to admit that the royals themselves are the #1 source for these articles. Their employees are the #2 sources for these articles. That's a FACT.

They don't deserve any privacy. Especially since they're LYING about all of this. The mystery illness, this "not suspicious death".

[quote] And nobody stays in hospital two weeks for a hysterectomy. These days, in the US at least, it's more like two days.

Yes, but Kate was suffering from particularly severe fits of hysteria and insolence, so her hysterectomy caused more complication than usual.

R20 You mare me ponder for a moment how Kate would suffer from erectile dysfunction.

Long hospital stays are just not a thing anymore. Forget about cost/insurance (which doesn’t apply to the royals anyway), C-Diff is a huge problem today. No matter how clean, it’s extremely easy to transmit, and hospitals are a breeding ground. A friend was hospitalized for a stroke and got C-Diff, and this was in a very reputable hospital. It took months to cure it, and he must have tried antibiotics (at $450 a pop) at least 6 times. He was finally cured after a fecal transplant. He says the C-Diff was far, far worse than the stroke.

They found a second malignant prostate but they have to wait awhile before operating again.

R153, do you actually believe that Kate is still in hospital?

Absolutely not, r155. Just pointing out that the long hospital stay is extremely unusual. I know others have said it, but it must have been extremely serious, maybe dire, whatever it was.

Fecal transplant for the princess! The royal groom of the stool is BACK!!

"My rather gossipy GP mentioned this to me during my recent office visit. Unprompted by me he asked me what I thought was going on with the Princess of Wales (he referred to her as Kate Middleton). I said I didn't know, but that I did think the situation sounded a bit off. He told me 'Nobody's in the hospital for two weeks for abdominal surgery.'"

So much for that old Hippocratic Oath.

I wonder if she is pregnant? How nice it would be if she appeared at Easter, safely into her seventh month of pregnancy.

Given the problems she had with morning sickness with her first 3 kids, I wouldn’t rule it out.

How did the GP harm?

If there's a lack of information coming it's because Kate and William are the antidote to the oversharing we've seen from Harry and Meghan.

[quote] If there's a lack of information coming it's because Kate and William are the antidote to the oversharing we've seen from Harry and Meghan.

No, it's because they have a dirty secret and they don't want anyone to know it.

And the British media is protecting them, because Kate is white.

Something they would never do for black Meghan.

“Not particularly black Meghan”, R162.

Kate's condition can't currently be that dire, not in recent weeks anyway, as sister Pippa and her brood were openly papped frolicking the beaches in the Caribbean. She was in the Mail every day for over a week, modeling the latest in overpriced swimwear and looking damn happy to be doing so.

There's no way the Midds would allow her to be partying like that if Kate was at death's doorstep. And Pippa isn't that good of an actress. If things were serious she'd be alongside Carole at Kate's side.

[quote] Kate's condition can't currently be that dire, not in recent weeks anyway, as sister Pippa and her brood were openly papped frolicking the beaches in the Caribbean

Meh.

I've been around Kate's anorexia since I was a teen.

Been there. Done that.

I'm going to the beach!

R164, there are rumors that those pics were taken before Christmas but are being peddled as new.

The rumors coming from the BRF minions, of course.

DAMAGE CONTROL.

"there are rumors that those pics were taken before Christmas but are being peddled as new."

Anyone else embarrassed to be part of DL?

Just presenting all the rumors out there, r168. Is this any more outlandish than the nutty theories already out there? Tbh, pretty much all of the rumors are outlandish.

[quote] I wonder if she is pregnant? How nice it would be if she appeared at Easter, safely into her seventh month of pregnancy.

Why wouldn't a pregnancy be announced?

Now there was a suicide (Prince Michael of Kent's son-in-law) WTF is going on?

[quote] Now there was a suicide (Prince Michael of Kent's son-in-law) WTF is going on?

If my mother-in-law were a horrible racist cuntbag like that old twat Princess Michael of Kent, I'd want to kill myself too.

[quote] They also announced - with straight faces, that it's not a suspicious death.

Suicide is not considered "a suspicious death." That latter phrase is used when foul play is suspected.

Boob job gone wrong....she wanted to beat the record!

[quote] Why wouldn't a pregnancy be announced?

R170, lots of women keep their pregnancy secret in the first trimester, as it is the stage in which most miscarriages occur. It’s rather far-fetched, but if Kate was pregnant and had a health crisis at New Year, she/her doctors may have decided to keep the information secret to avoid the will-she, won’t-she press furore which would ensue if there was a chance she could lose the baby.

This would be an especially sensitive situation, since one of Kate’s nurses committed suicide after falling victims to a phone hoax during one of Kate’s previous pregnancies.

Thomas Kingston wasn’t bad looking at all…

She probably tried to kill herself and now she's refusing to appear in public. She's had it with her husband's cheating.

And he is a cheater, just like his father. He even has an ugly mistress too.

[quote] Anonymous Courtier Speaking With "Distinct Discomfort" Says Recent Royal Drama Is Not a Crisis "Yet"

It goes without saying that the royal family has had a pretty dramatic start to 2024 given King Charles' cancer diagnosis and Kate Middleton's major abdominal surgery and lengthy recovery. And now that Prince William has mysteriously pulled out of his godfather's memorial for "personal reasons," pretty much the entire internet is in a state of 👀.

As royal expert Richard Kay put it in the Daily Mail, "A king fighting cancer, a princess stricken by an unknown debilitating illness and a vanished prince with no explanation for his absence have contributed to a febrile and dangerously unsettled atmosphere."

According to Kay, "aides insist it is not a crisis," but apparently one anonymous "long-standing courtier" added "not yet" with "distinct discomfort," so...read into that how you will.

Kay also notes that royal officials typically "offer consoling words of reassurance" to the public when people spiral, but says their silence is adding to a "sense of apprehension that all is not well within the royal house."

Again, we don't know why Prince William skipped his godfather's memorial, but Kay confirms that "it is highly unusual for a Royal Family member to pull out of an official event at the last minute." That said, apparently Prince William "spoke to Constantine’s family to explain."

Just FYI, around the same time the palace announced Prince William was skipping the memorial, they said Kate Middleton "continues to be doing well," so...at least there's that?

I'll bet it's a full-on Britney style psychotic breakdown. Like with a shaved head, locked in a padded room, and screaming in an American accent.

[quote] Britain's embattled royals are making an awful situation worse

It's been more than two months since Kate, the Princess of Wales, was last seen in public, sparking wild conspiracy theories.

But for Britain's royal family, that may be the least of its problems.

Two family members have cancer. One just died. Meanwhile, Prince Andrew is back in the limelight, and Prince Harry's relationship with his brother remains uncertain.

These are just a handful of challenges the British royals face today. The royal commentator Jack Royston told Business Insider it was "possibly the worst start to the year" the family had experienced in decades.

And both Royston and Kristen Meinzer, a royal expert and podcast host, said things were probably to get worse unless a drastic change was made.

As King Charles III and Kate step back from duties, the monarchy is missing some of its key players. And with no leader in sight, Prince Andrew returned to the fold at a memorial service for Greece's King Constantine on Tuesday, sparking speculation over his future position within the monarchy.

It's a PR nightmare, experts say.

It was promptly followed by news that King Charles had been diagnosed with cancer on February 5 following a hospital procedure for an enlarged prostate in January.

In a statement issued by Buckingham Palace, a spokesperson for the monarch said that he was "positive about his treatment" and that he looked forward to "returning to full public duty as soon as possible."

The king's hospital stay in January took place at around the same Kate was being treated for a planned abdominal surgery.

On January 17, Kensington Palace announced that Kate would remain in hospital for between 10 and 14 days after the surgery before continuing her recovery at home. They added that she would unlikely return to public duties before Easter, which falls at the end of March.

While Charles showed the public he was doing well after his diagnosis, Kate has taken a different approach. As BI previously reported, she hasn't been seen in public since Christmas Day.

The royal's absence has sparked conspiracy theories and speculation about her whereabouts on social media.

Meinzer told BI it was unusual for Kate to stay out of the public eye for so long, especially as she'd been transparent about her health in the past.

When Kate was pregnant, she was open about her experience with hyperemesis gravidarum — a condition that causes severe sickness — and she took photos for the press outside the hospital after giving birth to all three of her children.

Prince William and Kate Middleton pose for photos after the birth of Prince Louis outside the Lindo Wing.Chris Jackson/ Getty Images "Charles' camp has been far more transparent than William and Kate's. Nobody is wondering about Charles because they followed the No. 1 rule of PR, which is to get ahead of the story," Meinzer said.

"Charles' statements haven't been 100% transparent, but transparent enough — using words like 'cancer' instead of 'abdominal procedure,'" she said, adding that the vague language around the princess' condition has only heightened speculation.

Royston said the palace's refusal to release a photo of Kate was a shift from its previous strategy.

"The weird thing is, the palace could make it all go away with one single photo of Kate, but they seem to not want to do that," Royston said.

Royston suggested the palace could release a new photo of Kate through one of the charities she supports, or alternatively, something more laid back — a selfie or a photo taken by William — could be released through the couple's social-media channels.

A Kensington Palace spokesperson told BI on Thursday that the princess was "doing well."

"As we have been clear since our initial statement in January, we shall not be providing a running commentary or providing daily updates," they said.

R150 An open "secret" Windsors are scum.

Her Royal Highness the Duchess Of Cambridge is resting peacefully.

Man, QEII really ran a tight ship. Shocking how quickly the house of cards has fallen to shit as soon as she’s out of the picture.

Lilibet knew it would all go pear shaped.

Liposuction. It’s dangerous and extremely painful to recover from. Infections from it have killed people. Kanye Wests mom for one.

Kate has no fat to suck out.

Shoddy liposuction seems totally unlikely. She was never fat, let alone pudgy enough for her to justify lipo to herself. Even if she did have lipo, she’s too important to get the type of strip-mall procedure like Kanye West’s probably mother had.

I have no idea what’s really going on, but it’s way more likely (relative to complications from liposuction) that she has some type of GI cancer, like stomach or bowel. Those cancers are affecting young people at frighteningly increasing rates.

It’s also possible that the “abdominal” aspect was a complete fabrication. It may be nervous breakdown, or rehab for eating disorder, or god knows what. Maybe she has chronic fatigue — we at DL know how debilitating that can be thanks to Dorothy Zbornak’s brave candor.

Wishing her the best but also begrudging the lack of transparency about the health of the future queen consort.

Since the Palace explicitly said it was not cancer, and the truth will eventually come out and they'd look like liars if it were cancer, I doubt it's cancer.

Wills looks kinda hot in that photo accompanying the Cosmo piece R 178 linked to.

I once knew a young woman who abused laxatives and her colon collapsed. She was also anorexic/bulimic.

Do you wanna know? Juwanna know? JUWANNO?

[quote]Man, QEII really ran a tight ship. Shocking how quickly the house of cards has fallen to shit as soon as she’s out of the picture.

Influential though she was, The Queen didn't really have a say in holding back Charles's cancer or Kate's abdominal problem till she was gone.

R183 must be really young/uninformed if he's not aware that QEII also had tons of intrusive media garbage to deal with during her reign.

Her hair looks more regal pulled back in Anne style.

[quote] I once knew a young woman who abused laxatives and her colon collapsed. She was also anorexic/bulimic.

I wondered about this when it was first reported that she had abdominal surgery. Could long term laxative abuse damage the colon? Seems logical, but I could find anything. So I’m not sure this post is true.

R187 The woman had a cosmetic procedure go wrong. It's not cancer or any of your insipid fantasies about shit bags. Grow the fuck up.

[quote] Cathartic Colon. Long-standing use of stimulant laxatives can result in the lower intestine (colon) becoming an inert tube incapable of peristalsis. Use of these stimulant laxatives damages one of the nerve layers of the intestine, causing the aperistalsis, which then creates a need for even greater amounts of stimulant laxatives. This condition is believed to resolve over time with discontinuation of the stimulant laxative use.

The above is from an eating disorder treatment site (not the link below), so they are very motivated to make laxative abuse sound dangerous. And this was the worst they could say about colon damage.

it sounds like it’s dangerous because of the fluid imbalances it causes, which can damage the kidneys. I certainly would that thought that laxative abuse could harm your colon permanently and it’s obviously unhealthy, but it doesn’t sound like it’s a big risk.

nothing will happen. My uncle was constipated all his life and couldn't poop with laxatives. He was OK...until he died.

Kate has a terminal case of malignant Camilla Parker Bowels

William needs Kate.

He doesn't get along with anyone right now, and with Kate out of the picture, he's all by himself.

He hates Camilla, he hates Andrew, and he has alienated Beatrice and Eugenie.

Kate was the only one by his side that he got along with, and could talk to, besides King Charles.

And with both of them out of the picture now, he has NO ONE.

If he wasn't such an asshole to everyone, he wouldn't be in this predicament.

R200, they’re not dead, so they’re not out of the picture. What’s to stop William from talking to his father as often as he likes? And he lives with Kate. Unless she’s in a coma, he can talk to her as well.

You must know William very well, R200, to be privy to his innermost thoughts and feelings.

Pretty amazing, really, for some square state American basement dweller - how did you two become such intimate chums?

[quote] What’s to stop William from talking to his father as often as he likes? And he lives with Kate. Unless she’s in a coma, he can talk to her as well.

I'm talking about public events, such as his Godfather's funeral service.

That's probably why he didn't attend, because he was friendly with no one else who attended, and he didn't have his wife or his father.

He's all by his miserable self right now.

R03 How do you know?

[quote] And with both of them out of the picture now, he has NO ONE.

Not quite.

R293 King Constantine’s funeral service was in January 2023. Why do people like you invent stuff when you can’t even get the basics right? You’re a fool, aren’t you?

His Thanksgiving service at Windsor was this week.

Regular degular?

R206 Who's the fool? You're responding to post R293 which has not yet been written.

[quote] Kensington Palace, this is not how you convince the world Kate Middleton is alive and well

Kensington Palace broke its silence amid speculation on Kate Middleton's whereabouts.

But its response prompted more questions than answers.

Royal commentators told BI it's unusual for Kate not to share updates, even about her health.

Conspiracy theories are swirling online about where exactly the Princess of Wales might be.

Though it's standard for royals to take time off for health reasons, it isn't common for them to disappear from the public eye. Kate hasn't been photographed since Christmas Day.

From rumors about Kate and William's relationship to suggestions that the princess' condition is worse than it seems, countless unfounded theories have surfaced on social media.

Though none of the rumors have been proven, the palace's determination to give as little information as possible has only heightened public speculation.

In a statement to multiple news outlets on Thursday, Kensington Palace said they'd been clear on Kate's recovery timeline and wouldn't provide regular updates on her condition.

"As we have been clear since our initial statement in January, we shall not be providing a running commentary or providing daily updates," it continued.

The statement could have been an opportunity to silence the rumors once and for all. But it only caused more confusion.

Kristen Meinzer, a royal commentator and podcast host, told BI that the mystery surrounding Kate's condition is unusual because she has been transparent about her health in the past.

For example, the public was informed when she dealt with hyperemesis gravidum — a condition that causes severe sickness — during her pregnancies. She also posed for photos outside the hospital after giving birth to all three of her children.

"The weird thing is, the palace could make it all go away with one single photo of Kate, but they seem to not want to do that," Jack Royston, a royal commentator and podcast host, told BI.

Kate's last public appearance was in December when she joined the royal family for their traditional Christmas Day service in Sandringham, Norfolk.

In a brief update, Kensington Palace said on January 17 that she'd undergone "planned abdominal surgery."

Then on January 29, the palace issued a statement saying Kate had returned home to Windsor to continue with her recovery.

"She is making good progress," the statement read.

For the most part, William has performed royal engagements in Kate's absence with the exception of one last-minute cancellation in February. He was supposed to give a reading at a memorial service for the late King Constantine of Greece on Tuesday, but pulled out due to "personal reasons," The Telegraph reported.

Earlier in February, William made a rare solo public statement about the conflict in Gaza. The statement was signed with a "W" seal rather than the crown imagery featured on official statements from the Prince and Princess of Wales' office.

The royal family has historically been opaque about what goes on behind closed doors.

But in recent years, it's become more common for royals to open up about their health. For instance, King Charles swiftly informed the public when he was diagnosed with cancer and he also made a statement when he contracted Covid twice.

The late Princess Diana said she'd struggled with self-harm and bulimia, calling the eating disorder a "symptom of what was going on in her marriage" to then-Prince Charles.

I can understand why she doesn't want to give a photo update. If she's been that sick, she probably looks like shit. No makeup, the hair hasn't been colored and touched up in weeks, she's far from camera ready unless she wants to do an Instagram filter. I think she's in serious condition, but she won't die. That bitch has worked and scraped and put up with all this to be Queen and now with the endgame in sight, she's not going to let it go now.

[quote] I can understand why she doesn't want to give a photo update. If she's been that sick, she probably looks like shit. No makeup, the hair hasn't been colored and touched up in weeks, she's far from camera ready unless she wants to do an Instagram filter.

No wonder William would rather be drinking at a Pub in Wales, than hanging around ugly old Kate.

File under “Duh.”

[quote] The principal aim of her being sequestered is to guard her privacy," a former royal staff member told the publication. "I'm sure the press hate it because it is working. There is a really, really small bubble of people who know exactly what is going on."

She beats that grifting cunt Sparkle by a royal mile, R212.

Kate's fine. She sends her love to everyone except Meaghan Markle.

At least Meghan knows where HER husband is every night.

Poor Waity Katie can't say the same.

She's on her death bed, and her husband is out partying in a Pub in Wales.

Bwahahahahahaha!!!!

And when he's not out drinking with the boys, he's fucking his Mistress, Rose Hanbury.

[quote] At least Meghan knows where HER husband is every night.

Of course she does, R216--because like Yoko with John, poor Dim is never allowed to leave Mother's sight.

Kate >>>>>>>>Meghan. All day, everyday.

Me Again!

[quote] Poor Waity Katie can't say the same.

That's just how the enlightened, aware, conscious-raising feminist activist Meghan Markle referred to Kate; by a sexist, cruel nickname the tabloids bestowed upon Kate.

You'd think the words "Waity Katie" would have never crossed Markle's feminist award-winning lips given what a feminist activist she is.

But they did, and there is no justifiable context for her doing so, and Markle did it on world-wide television.

In that one seemingly small moment, however, when Markle used that expression during the Oprah interview, it revealed a very big thing about Markle - There is artifice to her, hypocrisy to her.

To the contrary that Markle is a feminist.

If she truly was one, "Waity Katie" would have never crossed her lips, knowing its social brutality that was wielded in service of humiliating another woman.

So, if I don't want to hear a lecture on feminism from the likes of Markle, I have good reason.

Instead, Markle is one of those heterosexual women who, in a fit of insecurity and the need to compete and put down another woman, engaged in basic Mean Girl behavior, and I saw it for what it was.

So, go ahead, r216, continue to refer to Kate with those two words.

But it won't take away from the fact that when Markle used them, it revealed the phony game she's unconvincingly playing.

[QUOTE]Of course she does, [R216]--because like Yoko with John, poor Dim is never allowed to leave Mother's sight.

You've obviously never heard of May Pang.

[QUOTE]You'd think the words "Waity Katie" would have never crossed Markle's feminist award-winning lips given what a feminist activist she is.

Recall when she was giving instructions to be transmitted to Omid Scobie for his first book, she told Jason Knauf to make sure her hagiographer knew that her half sister Samantha had an out of wedlock child and her brood was by two different men.

I didn't know that, r221.

Well, I'm not surprised given what a poser Markle is when it comes to feminism.

R221, it was Yoko who had Pang as her assistant and she sent her off with Lennon because Ono knew Pang was no threat, and it turns out, Pang was no match for Yoko. Shows how much you know.

Regular degular: straightforward, unfancy, easy going, unpretentious, even keeled, jeans and a t-shirt, girl next door etc etc etc

[quote]Well, I'm not surprised given what a poser Markle is when it comes to feminism.

Meghan Markle is the most evil woman on earth.

Nah, R225, we don't give her that much credit. She's just a grifting cunt.

The point is John fucked around on Yoko as dissolute rock stars inevitably do with their partners. Pang was indeed a threat -- she reintroduced Julian into his life. And Pang continued intermittently fucking Lennon through the '70s after the "relationship" was over.

You sound like a straight woman who doesn't understand male libido.

Did she really say “Waity Katie” on television?

R227, Ono chose her and told her to fuck Lennon.

What did Lennon, who went back to Ono as intended, call it? "The Lost Weekend." Sounds lke you don't understand strategy.

Sparkle is not nearly as clever as Ono. Just bigger tits.

Regarding all the Crohn's/stoma speculation, I had Crohn's for many years and finally had my colon removed in 2000. It is a two-part process. The first operation is the illeostomy, where they remove your colon. Then, a fecal pouch is made out of excess bowel. After that operation, you must let the whole area heal for a few months. During this time, you have a stoma. Finally, they reconnect everything so you can then resume pooping like a (relatively) normal person. A few related points: I was not in the hospital more than a couple days for either operation. Secondly, it was NOT easy to conceal the stoma under clothes, all of which needed to be very loose. The ostomy bag tends to inflate like a balloon with gas exiting the body. Your body also makes weird, loud sounds. Thirdly, having experienced it, I concur with the person who said he would rather be dead than live with an ostomy bag. I found it miserable and like that damn bag was controlling my life. I was thrilled and relieved to be rid of it.

So you're not denying Lennon fucked around and with other women, too, then? Or do you also think Don Henley ordered up a prostitute so they could do lines, talk and cuddle the evening away?

I told them to boil those instruments and wipe down that kitchen table with Lysol before taking care of that issue she had.

Should the worst occur. I will always be there to nurture and protect our late Kate's children as if they were my own.

R231 Thanks for oversharing Duchess of Fecal.

[quote] Should the worst occur. I will always be there to nurture and protect our late Kate's children as if they were my own.

I, as well.

Yes, she did, r228.

Markle thought nobody would see through her that she said it in what was seemingly a sympathetic way, in the context of how cruel British tabloids can be.

She could have made that point without re-saying those two words.

She chose to say them reminding the world of them after they had faded because she wanted to sink the knife in.

Throughout my life the phrase “my jaw dropped” had only been a figure of speech. But when Markle said them my jaw actually dropped.

It was a very telling moment and it revealed so much about Markle.

Harry denies staying at San Vincente Bungalows, 2 hours' drive away from the Montecito mansion.

[quote]It is a two-part process.

Sometimes three, depending on the circumstances. The easiest way to exceed a week in the hospital following one of those surgeries is to be horribly ill going into it, or having complications afterward. One of my colectomy hospitalizations was extended by five or six days due to a staph infection that necessitated a stint in the ICU. I was sent home with a PICC line for weeks of additional medication administered at odd hours.

If chemo's off the table, the colostomy bag theory is as good as any. And whatever the surgery was for, if it couldn't be done laparoscopically and she has a large, fresh scar (or several) on her abdomen, it's impossible to do a lot of what she normally does without grimacing or gasping in pain for weeks afterward. Even as a passenger in a car, her expression might betray something that tabloids would feast upon.

R237 Your looney post reveals so much about you.

[quote]Throughout my life the phrase “my jaw dropped” had only been a figure of speech. But when Markle said them my jaw actually dropped.

Pics please.

Christ on the cross, this thread has nothing to do with Megan. Can you freaks crawl back under your rocks and let us continue discussing the subject of this thread. You have hundreds of MM/Harry threads where you can keep posting as nauseous about how she’s literally worse than Hitler.

OK pic of R241 dropping her jaw.

There's also the (unfortunate) possibility that whatever Illness/Procedure Kate faced has gone South. Not every recovery is a smooth one.

Having had a major abdominal surgery myself about 12 years ago, I suspect her long recover has a lot to do with her public position. What I mean is that I was able to go back to work after about 6 weeks, but I was in a lot of pain still, using chairs and walls as support when walking, often having spasms of pain where I'd cry out, couldn't sleep well, etc. I just worked in an office, so I got on with it. If I would have had to be camera ready and knowing my photos would be shown across the world, I would have needed the same amount of recovery time she is taking just to keep the wincing at bay. She's probably moving around her house quite well, but not yet ready for prime time.

Hilarious how you Fraus compare your own surgery to Middleton's. Makes you Royalty by proxy incisions.😂

Best wishes to all who have been ill.

[quote] Best wishes to all who have been ill.

Has anyone asked how I'M doing??

Bloody hell! What are we chopped liver?

Bless their hearts.

Easter is on March 31, so it's about 4 weeks away. I hope it's not cancer. That would be horrible. I had a coworker who had 3 young children and she died of cancer (late 30s). Every time I hear the song "Who Knew" (Pink), I think of her.

Usually I'm not so Mary about this kind of thing, but my coworker was very kind to me. I think she would have been a good mother (and had been a good mother up until she died).

Suicide attempt with a gun.

My gosh, I would hope there is no way on earth Princess Catherine would purposely leave her young'ns behind. I can't see suicide for her at all.

[quote]It was a very telling moment and it revealed so much about Markle.

Not as much as your coming to this post to make this comment reveals about you.

Golly gee whiz, I hope not, too.

[quote] Rumors Surrounding Prince William’s Relationship With Rose Hanbury Are at an All-Time High Amid Kate Middleton’s Recovery

If you haven’t been on the internet the past few weeks, then chances are you may not be aware of all the rumors surrounding Kate Middleton’s whereabouts. While the palace has said, and re-confirmed, that Kate wouldn’t be seen in the public eye until sometime around Easter while she’s recovering from her mystery abdominal surgery. People are convinced she’s missing or in a coma, and as if the rumors couldn’t be more out of control, people are bringing up Rose Hanbury in all of this.

When you take a peek at the royal side of X, the platform formerly known as Twitter, many believe Kate’s absence is all due to Prince William’s alleged relationship with Hanbury.

One user said, “I think Kate Middleton served William divorce papers cause she’s over the cheating but did it as Charles found out he’s dying so the palace said, ‘Can’t have an unmarried King’ and now they’re doing EVERYTHING to make her stay but she’s refusing to participate in the charade now,” with many adding they think Hanbury will be in the picture.

Another X user said, “If they Princess Diana’d Kate to Camilla Rose Hanbury…,” and another user added, “’Here it is. Kate’s abdominal surgery is a get away cause William keeps getting on with Rose Hanbury.”

So, for those who don’t know, Hanbury and Kate were friends for years, and in 2019, the Sun published a piece saying the two had a falling out (which, according to Richard Kay, nearly left both getting legal action in response). Then, writers Giles Coren and Nicole Cliffe both claimed they knew about the alleged affair between William and Hanbury in 2019, per IBTimes.

William’s lawyers reportedly issued a legal warning, but no one in this story has publicly acknowledged the rumors. An insider from the royal family told The Daily Beast: “There has never been any enmity between Kate and Rose. The rumors were all a load of rubbish. The family are ancient allies of the Crown and they will be there.”

There has been no physical or tangible proof of an affair besides deleted tweets and hearsay. While Kate and Hanbury have allegedly reconnected after Charles III’s Coronation, the three have kept quiet about the situation, but the rumors are swirling once again at an all-time high amid Kate’s absence.

Good God, that Rose Hanbury is a dog. She must be a champ at sucking cock or really be into anal or....SOMETHING.

What a step down from Kate.

We have evidence the HRH Princess Catherine was recovering splendidly from her ingrown toenail surgery UNTIL a paid MEGSTAN operative ( I'm not racist but she was a BLACK NURSE) injected Catherine with a genetically modified DNA liquid!!!!!! In this intravenous liquid was MEAGAN MARKLE. She had herself reduced to microscopic size. In a micro submarine piloted by HAZ the MINITURIZED DUPLICITOUS DUO steered directly towards the helpless Duchess of Cambridges UTERUS. Where they spent days wrecking havoc and IMPLANTING MALEGNANT CANCER CELLS. After this high tech assasination of Catherine's reproductive organs by the teeny tiny HARKLES poor Catherine was DOOMED!!!. From my exclusive Palace sources and contacts in the Royal Navy.

She ate a bad egg roll from the Chinese takeaway.

[quote]R210 In a statement to multiple news outlets on Thursday, Kensington Palace said they'd been clear on Kate's recovery timeline and wouldn't provide regular updates on her condition. "As we have been clear since our initial statement in January, we shall not be providing a running commentary or providing daily updates," it continued.

[quote]The statement could have been an opportunity to silence the rumors once and for all. But it only caused more confusion.

So, from the beginning they said that she would be convalescing until around Easter and would not be seen until then and that they would not be giving updates to allow her privacy, yet their reiteration of the original statements has now caused "more confusion"? And why would they even attempt the futile task of "silencing rumors" to a nosy and kind of dumb general public?

[quote]Good God, that Rose Hanbury is a dog. She must be a champ at sucking cock or really be into anal or....SOMETHING.

Perhaps she has a sparkling personality, although you would never know it from that glum photo of her at R256.

Has anyone considered the possibility of Toxic Shock Syndrome? You know that family's history with tampons.

On Easter, they will will roll a big rock away from the caves near Jerusalem and Kate will re-emerge from behind it. She will have risen!

[quote] On Easter, they will will roll a big rock away from the caves near Jerusalem and Kate will re-emerge from behind it. She will have risen!

Kate is so lovely!

Probably a lot of cancer.

Re R256's post, the idea that Kate would want a divorce even IF William was having it off with someone is stupid bourgeois twaddle.

She waited patiently to become his Duchess and now his Princess, and she will wait just as patiently to become his Queen. The kind of person who posts on X has no idea that dynastic marriages are not the same as those of the Harper Valley PTA.

[quote] She waited patiently to become his Duchess and now his Princess, and she will wait just as patiently to become his Queen.

If she lasts that long.

Anorexia is no joke.

[quote] The kind of person who posts on X has no idea that dynastic marriages are not the same as those of the Harper Valley PTA.

MARY.

my other thru line to ponder tonight (as it was I who had hoped that they were high functioning long term junkies) is

Princess Kate -- Shelly Miscavige

again, making it far more interesting than it probably is, but if Kate doesn't make a statement by the end of the month, watch that gain traction

Diana was exactly the kind of person who'd post on X, R268. Her expectations of a Royal marriage were astonishing considering her lineage, but a narc will throw a hissy fit any time it's possible, I guess.

R267 She is not anorexic you clown, educate yourself fie fucks sake

R267 she’s not anorexic, she is “slim”. This is most likely a foreign concept to you.

[quote] educate yourself fie fucks sake

Fie, Fie Fo Fum, I smell the DUMB of an Englishman!

[quote] What's REaLLY Goong on with KAte Middleton

William is having her replaced with a Stepford Wife.

She may have had an arbortion. Maybe the child would have been sick. An abortion is planned. That would explain the silence and also the timeout. I don't think it has anything to do with eating disorders. She has always been slim and doesn't look malnourished.

Abortions are like having a heavy period for a week or a bit more in some cases. On average, it's 3 days of recovery, at the most. the only way that would make sense is if the baby was shown to have deformities and she wanted the baby; then was devastated by those facts, had the abortion, and needed time to recover from the emotional after-effects. It's possible.

But I don't think that's what this is.

[quote]She may have had an arbortion.

She had a tree removed?

Oh William. William, you are blind. It wasn’t a miscarriage, it was an abortion. An abortion, William. Just like our marriage is an abortion, something that’s unholy and evil. I didn’t want your son, William. I wouldn’t bring another one of your sons in this world. It was an abortion, William. It was a son; a son, and I had it killed ’cause this must all end. I know now that it’s over; I knew it then. There would be no way, William. No way you could forgive me. Not with this Windsor thing that’s been going on for a thousand years.

It’s also not abdominal surgery.

[quote]She had a tree removed?

Some suggested she did have a stick up her ass.

I don't know if she has anorexia but the lines/creases on her face suggesting she doesn't have enough body fat are not attractive.

(Similar to Jody Foster, only Jody is mid-60s)

R227 hilarious! I'm not sure how I managed this particular typo.

Face lift gone wrong?

[quote]a nosy and kind of dumb general public?

You're being much too kind; they're not just "kind of" dumb.

Women have abortions all the time and they don’t need two months in seclusion to recover.

We did all this speculating with Madonna also and while fun, she ended up fine. I suspect Kate will emerge looking and acting the same and nobody will ever really know what happened. Jamie Foxx is also a similar situation,

[quote] Women have abortions all the time and they don’t need two months in seclusion to recover.

You still don’t get it. She’s not in seclusion to recover. She’s in the Tower until we decide what to do with her.

[quote] We did all this speculating with Madonna also and while fun, she ended up fine

Madonna later admitted that she nearly died.

I think it will come out further down the line, that the same is true of Kate.

This is much too suspicious that someone who has been CONSTANTLY photographed since she started dating William over a decade ago - CONSTANTLY PHOTOGRAPHED, mind you - has all of a sudden not been seen or photographed for MONTHS.

That is HIGHLY SUSPICIOUS.

I had dinner with a doctor friend last night and she thinks Kate has Crohn’s disease.

[quote] Everything to Know About Rose Hanbury, the Marchioness of Cholmondeley

Rose Isn’t Her First Name

Her full legal name is Sarah Rose Cholmondeley (née Hanbury), but everyone calls her Rose.

Her Parents Are Very Creative

Her parents are named Timothy Hanbury and Emma Hanbury (née Longman). Her father works as a website designer, while her mother reportedly works as a fashion designer!

She Has a Sister Named Marina Hanbury

Rose Hanbury has a sister named Marina Hanbury, who was also briefly a model and married into the peerage back in 201 with Edward Lambton, 7th Earl of Durham.

She’s a Pisces

Marchioness Rose Hanbury (also known by her married name Rose Cholmondeley) was born on March 15th, 1984, making her a Pisces. Many Pisces are known for being sensitive, inquisitive, intelligent, and creative.

She Has a Prestigious Educational Background

For Rose’s education, she attended the extremely prestigious Stowe School throughout her formative years, and later attended The Open University in England. While it’s not public knowledge what degree she sought, many believe she pursued something in politics, due to her later career choices.

She Was a Model for Years

Before Rose was all about the firm, she was actually discovered at age 23 by the Storm Agency. (The agency Kate Moss was under!) She modeled for a few years, posing in campaigns for Miu Miu, Poplin London, a shoot for Love Magazine, and more.

She’s Dabbled in Politics

After modeling, Rose became a researcher for the Conservative Member of Parliament, Michael Gove, who was serving as the Shadow Education Secretary at the time.

She & Her Husband Have a 23-Year Age Gap

So who is Rose’s husband? His name is David Rocksavage, also known as David Cholmondeley, the 7th Marquess of Cholmondeley. The pair met back in 2003 at a party hosted at the Villa Cetinale, but didn’t start dating until 2006. In 2009, they announced their engagement in June, and the next day, they announced they were pregnant. And then the day after that, on June 24, they wed at Chelsea Town Hall. Nearly 14 years later, and the pair still seem so in love.

She is a Mother of Three

Rose and David share three children together: twins Earl of Rocksavage Alexander Hugh George and Lord Oliver Timothy George, born on Oct 12, 2009, and Lady Iris Marina Aline, born March 2016.

She Recently Worked in Interior Design

On May 4, 2022, Rose revealed she’s dabbled in design! On the shared Instagram page @houghton_hall, it was shown that Rose and Martina Mondadori collaborated with a popular interior design company called Cabana. They created a collection “inspired by the extraordinary interiors of this fine Palladian house,” and it seemed like a big hit!

She’s Worked Extensively With Charities

Along with being involved in politics and modeling, Rose has played a major hand in charity work. She continues to actively work in charitable organizations, with the most well-known one being East Anglia’s Children’s Hospices (EACH). If that sounds familiar, it’s because Kate Middleton is a royal patron of that organization.

She Resides at Houghton Hall

Per their official website, Houghton Hall is currently the home of the Marquess of Cholmondeley and Rose Hanbury. It’s an incredibly lavish home, as you can tell from the pictures, and her husband is “a direct descendant of Sir Robert Walpole who built the hall in the 1720s.”

She Had an ‘Erotic, Exotic and Eccentric’ Upbringing

In Violet Naylor-Leyland’s book entitled Rare Birds True Style, she details the “erotic, exotic and eccentric” life of Hanbury’s upbringing. Hanbury told her a snippet of it, recalling, “Mum turned the basement into a nightclub for us, painting the whole place herself and hanging Moroccan lanterns and suzanis from the walls. It felt a bit like an opium den.”

She Would Host Themed Parties

In the same book entitled Rare Birds True Style, Hanbury held themed parties, including a food-themed one where she arrived in an outfit entitled “Catch of the Day.” For the look, she wore an octopus on her head and a fishnet look!

Nobody asked, R291

Clearly, people want to know about William's future Queen, R292.

It's important enough that an article was written about her.

Think.... Henry VIII and his six wives.

Kate Middleton is the long-suffering Catherine of Aragon who was loyal to the end, but got dumped any way.

Rofl!

They are trying to retrieve the other half of the hot dog.

My God, how in God's name was THAT pointy-chinned, big-earred plain Jane EVER considered "model material." It boggles the mind.

Why would Crohn's disease need to be a dark secret? Is it that much of a stigma?

She probably had a lung removed.

R296 It's a shitty disease, literally and figuratively, and there is a stigma attached to bowel diseases, especially those that require a colostomy.

I have no idea what she has but wouldn't be surprised if she has some kind of IBD. But she wants her privacy and I'm glad she has been able to maintain it (as I would be glad for anyone else in the same situation.)

[quote]It's a shitty disease, literally and figuratively, and there is a stigma attached to bowel diseases, especially those that require a colostomy.

And you'd know that Camilla would put plastic on all the royal furniture when Kate came for tea.

Camilla's furniture already has cigarette burn holes and orange spray tan smears.

How a week of Princess of Wales conspiracies are testing royal tradition

She shrugged William off once. If Meghan and Harry hadn't been around it would have been all about Kate and William trouble in paradise in all the headlines. Maybe this is from that.

Stigma is one thing but I doubt the family would let speculation run rampant and create all this Streisand Effect publicity rather than just say she has Crohn's Disease, then everyone would talk for a day or two and then stop.

There is no “Duchess Kate”, R302.

William and Kate's marriage is a sham.

There's no love there.

Now, it's only about the kids, and William becoming King.

That's all.

R304 I’m not OP, but we’re not into formalities here at DL.

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Wow, Klan Granny having a total meltdown at R307.

I guess she can't handle the bad news.

What bad news, r308?

The Americans posting trash British media links, the only purpose of which is to invent stories and get reactions, and then imagining that they know what the British public is thinking are hilarious.

R310, we know what the British are thinking. They want to know what happened to Kate.

We know what happened to Kate, r311. She had abdominal surgery and will be back to public engagements after Easter.

She dead yet, Harry?

If Charles revealed exactly what cancer he has and Kate gave us an update on just what surgery she had, then that's when the crazy speculations and wild theories will really start flying. Every "expert" will be on TV declaring how long Charles has to live or explaining what might be happening to Kate's bowel movements. The tabloids will be publishing even more bullshit articles about what's "really" happening to them, how many times a month Charles has chemotherapy and how much of Kate's intestines were removed. The online "experts" will be posting about how their neighbour's granddad has the same thing Charles had and he was farting all the time so Charles must be farting all the time too. Or their ex's sister-in-law had the same operation as Kate and now has a colostomy bag so Kate must have one too. The tabloids and the online nutters will still be braying for even more details and feigning outrage at being denied them.

The best strategy is the one they're following now: state the bare essentials and just wait it out. Charles will eventually complete his treatment and Kate will be back soon and in the months and years to come the current faux tabloid/online screecher demand to know will be forgotten. If they want to talk more about their health issues once they are better, then that's up to them.

Thank you for the press release from the British Royal Family, at R314.

It's nice to see you do your master's bidding.

R314 The loyal subjects who pay for all this royalty might think it's their right to know.

We don't pay for "all this royalty", r316, and we don't care about knowing more. It's only the Americans on these threads who are demanding selfies from Kate and the exact details of what she has.

Nothing to do with Buckingham Palace, r315, just an average Brit.

Actually it’s the “Duchess” part, R306 and R307 - if you’re going to ignore the formalities you could at least get the title right - thus “Princess Kate” is marginally less stupid than “Duchess Kate”.

Always remember, R317 - the royalty obsessive Americans on the DL always know best. Even when they don’t.

The whole never complain, never explain thing worked for Elizabeth, because she was Elizabeth and she was a country's grandma. They could excuse her mess because she was granny. They're not excusing mess any longer. It's a new day, people are going to only put up with so much as long as they're on the public teat. No one has to give the gory details about their health, but there is no need to create all this drama by being vague either.

You nailed it, R320.

[quote] and we don't care about knowing more.

Okay, well, that's you, I guess. That's what it's like to live in a monarchy, something I wouldn't understand, being American. But don't you have a parliamentary democracy? Don't you think you have a right to know, based on the fact that you're a citizen?

R314 BREAKING!

It's not a stoma!

[quote] just say she has Crohn's Disease, then everyone would talk for a day or two and then stop.

It is to laugh...

[quote] R320 They're not excusing mess any longer.

Someone's medical crisis that they'd like to keep private while enduring it is "mess"? And she owes gossipers details during her ordeal, otherwise she's creating drama? How, exactly, would knowledge of the gory details help the general public?

A "right to know" what, r322? Just what Kate's abdominal surgery is? Exactly what type of cancer Charles has? Aside from medical privacy being legally defended in a democracy, how does it benefit me as a citizen to know the specific details of all that?

Yes, we have a parliamentary democracy in the UK. We have a government, a prime minister, opposition. If the prime minister or a government minister was ill and had to take time out, I still wouldn't care exactly what she/he had (a cancer diagnosis or abdominal surgery would suffice for me), but that would raise the question of whether he/she could do his/her job properly. In the case of Charles and Kate that doesn't matter so much as Charles is still able to perform official state duties, and if he couldn't then William, Anne and Edward and to an extent Camilla could stand in for him. Kate can take some time out from public appearances and everything will still be fine.

The hilarious thing is that something similar did just happen in the US and it was a big issue but all the Americans on DL played it down. Lloyd Austin, the Defense Secretary, basically disappeared for a few days at the beginning of the year and the president had no idea where he was or how to get in touch with him. Austin had ended up in hospital for over a week, with complications from cancer surgery, the diagnosis of which he hadn't even told the president about. Austin handed over some of his powers to his deputy while she was on a beach holiday over the Christmas/New Year period, so she had to perform some of the duties of Defense Secretary from a foreign country and perhaps without the right security clearance. Again, Austin hadn't even told her why he was delegating some powers to her. And Austin is still Secretary of Defense, despite having serious health issues that incapacitated him and after all his subterfuge. Joe Biden himself, despite being 81 and with very apparent memory loss, is refusing to have a cognitive test. Mitch McConnell, Senate minority leader, freezes in the middle of sentences. Dianne Feinstein, in her 90s and without the capacity to serve, clung on to her seat in Senate despite being unable to attend and with no prospect of her health being restored, and that had a real impact on Senate votes. If Ruth Bader Ginsburg, abortion activist, hadn't insisted on clinging on to her Supreme Court seat until her last breath perhaps Roe vs Wade wouldn't have been overturned.

Those are the kinds of health issues I'd be worried about as a citizen in a democracy, not why doesn't Kate post a selfie update.

I have not followed the Kate M drama more than just being aware that she is out of circulation with stomach surgery and it is somewhat serious. This is my theory, and it is one that I have personally experienced.

I have been through three laparotomies, and they were during a 4-5 month timeframe. Healing from a laparotomy is hellish. Healing from three successive ones is fucking insane hell bad. I had a stoma for 4 months. It's not the end of the world, you get used to having it and it beats dying. I was in the hospital for 3+ weeks, then another week later down the road and then another. I nearly died at one point due to going septic, Pain was no fun. I was given transfusions, blood cells, and healed with fentanyl and other opioids so it must have been bad. I've blocked the memory. If I was to guess, I think Kate maybe had raging diverticulitis. Maybe she experienced perforated bowels, went septic and had to be sectioned for the stoma. That takes 3-4 months to heal properly. Then no more stoma (if you're lucky) and you can start pooping from the preferred hole. The timing part, so far, makes the most sense to me. The idea that she may not be happy with sharing that she has a doo-doo bag doesn't surprise me. It means when people meet you they are eyeing your mid-section for a poopie bag bulge rather than looking you in the eyes. I get it.

All I know is that William and Kate will never be able to remove the stink of this cover-up, from their history.

People will always remember it, and refer back to it when they talk about how shady and deceptive William and Kate really are.

R228 yes she did say “Waity Katy” in the context of the disgusting things the media says about female royals. I don’t know why some posters got their pantys in a bunch over Meghan pointing out the press’ bullshit against Kate. It was a supportive statement for the PoW.

You all acting like no one can bring that up are weird as hell. Kate knows the terms and I’m sure agreed with Meghan that it was bullshit.

The press also bring it up when discussing the treatment of royals so it’s very much not some unspoken statement in royal circles.

You guys need to stop acting like Kate is. 5 year old girl. She’s a grown woman that’s proven to handle her own. I’m sure hearing the term “Waity Katy” wasn’t a big deal, considering the context.

R329 do you just post your ill-informed drivel then copy and paste to other threads? Why do you do that? It’s still just a bunch of sad bilge the second, third and fourth times as it was originally. I’m almost embarrassed for you.

But not quite, you stupid fuck.

I heard she had a paper cut.

There is a difference between being resentful that more information isn’t being released about someone’s illness and being confused as to why they are working against themselves by not providing a little positive PR - a photo of Kate waving from a car window or even just a statement directly from her thanking people for their concern and well wishes.

she shouldn’t have to tell the world she has a poop bag (and maybe she doesn’t). But when she disappears completely for three months people are going to start to wonder if they are lying. Then confusion can start to turn into resentment and it seems like that’s what the media is trying to encourage now. They’ve played ball (I read all the trash and they were pretty circumspect and respectful in January) and now they are getting impatient.

I don’t think they’ve lied. But they should have given the press something midway to Easter. Not medical information, but something.

[quote]But when she disappears completely for three months people are going to start to wonder if they are lying.

The original announcement said she wasn't expected to return to public duties until after Easter. I would guess that they hope all goes well and she will return soon after Easter, or they'll give an update if her recovery extends past that timeframe. I don't get why everyone is expecting to see her or hear from them before Easter.

[quote]Then confusion can start to turn into resentment and it seems like that’s what the media is trying to encourage now. They’ve played ball... and now they are getting impatient.

[quote]I don't get why everyone is expecting to see her or hear from them before Easter.

Because the daily front-page gluts of Kate-pictures have so suddenly stopped that people naturally notice the contrast.

It's as though the press had a dependency on her images themselves, and miss her various smiling activities. The press would say that that the public loved such images, which is why they ran them so often. And of course the exposure underlined the importance of brand William and Kate, their popularity so vital to those who support monarchy.

The Royals and courtiers loving the attention Kate daily won but now annoyed at responses to her absence aren't entirely realistic. The appetite created and sustained naturally craves more. A sudden absence and silence implying serious ill-health can only provoke widespread speculation.

What the fuck are you on about, r335? Kate never made daily public appearances, just as no member of the royal family makes daily public appearances. She's taking a few months out from public engagements to recover from surgery and get her health back and that's fine. Only the media and some online loons such as Sherly Crow are trying to make an issue out of it. The British public understands that she's taking some time out and has no problem with it.

*Sheryl Crow

This ugly face is what I imagine the DL loons screeching "Where's Kate?! We demand to know!" look like.

I'm always fascinated by the posts that happen overnight in this thread.

R327 Posting from your has-been cosplay nation. Once Great Britain only has a past. No future. So you cling to your accident of birth scroungers in silly hats. Where is your right to know how the billions of pounds in Charlie's Crown Estate is accounted for? Only thing more hilarious than your "royals" are the pathetic fraus who worship them . Hilarious culty lot .

Can't see Kate? Try not to worry so much, just a little while longer and your love object will reapppear. Cheers!

Fibroids leading to hysterectomy I am sure.

I can't believe there are still morons jumping into this long thread (one of a series) with the BREAKING NEWS!!! That Kate must have had a hysterectomy. Great way to demonstrate that you haven't read any of the other comments.

I think they're joke posts, r342, unlike the morons demanding a selfie of Kate or the non-Brits cosplaying that they are outraged on our behalf at the 3p a year we each pay as British taxpayers for the royals' expenses for performing official state duties.

What is that woman saying in r337 after “I’m on Jimmy Kimmel tonight”? or is my hearing going at last

You're probably correct, R343. And they are hiLARious.

[quote] just say she has Crohn's Disease, then everyone would talk for a day or two and then stop.

On what planet? We’re still talking about Charles’ tampon conversation decades later.

I wonder if they gave Katie Anne Boleyn's old suite in the Tower?

It’s definitely a poop bag.

Katie's fibroid.

I have given the matter a few moments careful thought and I now am prepared to announce my view:

The Princess is entitled to her privacy, AND the public is entitled to gripe about the Princess’s decision to not tell them what is going on, because the Royal family encourages the public to care about them. Like Kardashians.

R346 You misunderstand me. I meant it would stop the speculation. You have the surgeon go on TV and discuss the operation, the healing time, the complications. Then people stop calamitizing it. They get a handle on it. Yes they talk about it but in a different way. They're informed rather than uninformed.

I think I'd prefer this, to people behaving like adult children of alcoholics. Not mentioning the obvious. Attacking people who want to find out what is really happening. Sweeping it under the rug and putting on a brave face.

If she reveals she has a poop bag, people will talk about and joke about it for the rest of her life and beyond.

She’d become Leaky Katie.

R343 Thick clot. It's not what the British taxpayers pay for Charlie to cosplay and cut a ribbon. It's what the Royals don't pay. Charlie's Crown Estates the Duchies of Cornwall and Lancaster are TAX EXEMPT. Charlie pays not a farthing in millions of pounds of his "personal" income including thousand of rental properties. The whole " but Crown Estate pays back" is a money laundering shell game. Anyone with minor book keeping skills can see that. Royalass are too stupid to live. Open a UK Disneyland it would be cheaper and far more entertaining.

^ You must be an America,

Is "thick clot" what she has, or are you calling someone that?

Camilla is going on a vacation while her husband is sick with cancer? I thought she was giving up public duties to spend more time with him. I guess the flame has gone out and she has had it. She'll spend it with whom? Parker Bowles? 'What was I thinking? I'm an idiot! Be careful what you wish for!!!'

Brazilian Butt Lift.

R357 Husband in chemo therapy... daughter in law dying... Stoli-Boli time sweety darling!

Is Camilla going on vacation somewhere tropical? Is Charles staying home? Inquiring minds want to know!

He's cosplaying being a Brit, by using oldey-timey Brit words like "clot" and "farthing", r356.

Similarly, no one cares about the apparent non-tax payment of the Duchy of Lancaster because it pays for various services, including the monarch. It's even administered by a government minister. Attempts to claim that the monarchy is depriving us Brits of wealth will always fail because they are bullshit.

What would happen to the Royal Duchies if the monarchy were abolished? Would they revert to the state or would the Mountbattens keep them?

R357 Camilla is going on a vacation

Well she can't go to Disney Land. She lives there.

"oldey-timey "

Oh Dear

She was abducted by posh aliens

R361

[quote] I'm always fascinated by the posts that happen overnight in this thread.

People are posting from different time zones.

People in Australia are posting upside down. I don’t know how they manage.

Wow.... Camilla is going on VACATION? Is that what wives normally do when their husbands have been diagnosed with cancer?

I’m sure Charles encouraged her to go. It’s not as though he’s otherwise without assistance.

[quote] People in Australia are posting upside down. I don’t know how they manage.

They get used to it. I went down under once, and aside from feeling a bit light in the loafers, I pretty much instantly forgot that I was upside down. They built all the buildings upside down you know. So you can’t really tell.

I’m not quite sure how they keep the water on the ground, though. I’ll have to look into that.

What are these "time zones"?

She can’t win. People with nothing better to do complain about the wall of silence, but if she did give any information it would cause a feeding frenzy in the media and massive amounts of speculation.

Is it not common knowledge on this Data Lounge place that only true British subjects of his Majesty by the Grace of God our beloved King Charles III who are over the age of 70 years and suffering from dementia and or Alzheimer's Disease are allowed to comment on absolutely anything remotely related to OUR BRITISH Royal Family?

[quote] What the fuck are you on about, R335? Kate never made daily public appearances, just as no member of the royal family makes daily public appearances.

That poster meant that she made daily public appearances IN THE TABLOIDS, you DUMB CUNT!!!

[quote]That poster meant that she made daily public appearances IN THE TABLOIDS

Thanks, that's indeed what I meant, and not only the tabloids - The Times and The Telegraph were similarly obsessed with front-paging Kate. She's the most photographed Royal since Diana, so that obsessive coverage stopping cold is obviously notable.

Finally a Kate sighting. Damn she looks very tired. It’s from a distance but anyway… TMZ of course.

Well, she's alive, so that's a good start.

Puffy looking? One doesn't usually gain weight immediately post-op.

Steroids? Just speculation, but it is a side-effect of corticosteroid medications.

Versus about 14-15 months ago...

It's a good sign she's driving.

She looks like a Bene Gesserit. That explains a lot.

You're joking, R381

It’s a double. She’s definitely in the Tower.

R367 Time Zones! American rubbish one simply ignores.

[quote] She looks like a Bene Gesserit. That explains a lot.

I see a new nose.

[quote] It's a good sign she's driving.

She's a passenger, you moron.

Clearly, she can't move her arms or her new tits will hurt.

R377 THANK GOD. Catherine is starting to look like her old self!!!

Why would I be joking, R383?

Because the alternative is you are an idiot

R389 As has been explained to you by others, she's riding, not driving.

They sit on the other side in the UK.

For R381 Apologies, R389

Not that either. I give up. Time for a drink in some time zone.

Surprised this thread is still going. I don't have any particular interest in this family and don't follow and have most of the bizarre, obsessed posters blocked. At this point, people are just speculating though my belief is eating disorder, mental breakdown as I stated above. They have a right to privacy too.

That said, they are boring, trashy and unattractive but not in a fun way. Kanye and his trash wife are far more fun if you want to speculate on strangers.

They rebooted her.

R394 "I don't have any particular interest in this family"

Your plethora of posts on every other royal thread ( 9 on this thread alone) would contradict that dearie.😂

Saw a discussion on Twitter (I know I know) putting forth the theory that Kate died months ago. Since that time they found a reasonable body double who got extensive plastic surgery to make her an exact doppelganger (which is why there are no pictures) and is now recovering from those procedures but it's not going as they hoped.

God I love the internet sometimes.

Kate was just photographed out and about with her mother.

Shite.

Any signs of the colostomy bag?

Meghan is probably thinking hard about what chronic disease she might have (other than depression and anxiety) that she can reveal to the public and then become an ambassador for. She can't let her sister-in-law get this much attention and sympathy!

[QUOTE] Kate was just photographed out and about with her mother.

Body double.

[quote]Kanye and his trash wife are far more fun

You're kidding. That poor woman is like a robot sex slave.

R398, God bless.

Jesus, I could swear I saw a steering wheel and assumed the picture was transposed.

R395 Stepford wives have a speaker behind their mouth? The perfect wife doesn't give blow jobs?

According to Twitter, it's not a body double, it's just Pippa. Duh.

I remember when Saddam Hussein gave a speech at the beginning of the Iraq war and people said it must be a body double because he was wearing glasses. Cracked me up that people thought they'd managed to find a perfect doppelganger but hadn't been able to get contact lenses for him.

Social media seems to be saying it's a body double because the face is not quite right. Thoughts?

R407 That was my first thought. Looks far more like Pippa than Kate (the mouth and cheeks).

The picture is obviously a fake. The driver looks nothing like Carole Middleton in The Crown. And TMZ published a reverse image as the “Carole” double is driving from the wrong side of the alleged “Audi 4x4”.

Kate's Uncle Gary has just entered the Celebrity Big Brother UK house. It's already a trainwreck. He said something along the lines of "people have this image of me from the media" - mate no one has any idea who the fuck you are.

I do believe that is Kate and not Pippa. Backgrid got these shots, they're a tried-and-true paparazzi outfit. These were taken at Windsor on the school route, from a distance.

Jesus. Mary and motherfucking Joseph - it is Kate. WTF is wrong with you people? Go back to frau-land.

It’s definitely not Pippa as she’s not wearing a bikini.

The rampant speculation worked and they dragged Kate out for a photo op.

Well done internet trolls 🧌

R415 I'm sure the population posting on the DL is solely responsible for her need to be trotted out and shown to have a pulse. I didn't see any further mention of why she was in the hospital, so apologies if I'm behind.

I've a few notions, some already covered, but so far I haven't seen anyone calling it as an incontinence issue (not joking, a breeder frau friend went through this), she could be looking at a possible implant, the trial for it, beforehand and would involve catheters and another bag no one's trying to have to wear. But it was from her natural childbirths and then there was a uterine mesh situation in tandem, was months of hell for her. Then possibly a solids vs a liquid problem (covered at length above)

But, I don't think a long term treatment facility for women with eating disorders isn't out of the question. They'll keep patients for months. Half look like they're about to die, the other half, you wonder why they're there. But bulimia is VERY hard on the organs, and they take INSANE quantities of laxatives, I remember a patient sharing that in the hotel, the night before checking in, did several (if not a dozen, long time ago) boxes beforehand just to get rid of them. Although she doesn't seem to have the vomit-roulette hard-core bulimia creates (at any time, one will just spout like a geyser with no provocation. It becomes a reflexive response) which would take time to help. Although two months isn't much in that world of 'treatment'. But she looks more anorexic, so I'm thinking it was an 'elimination organ output problem '.

Women in the 50s weren't even supposedly 'using the bathroom', and that issue has had a huge impact on architectural elements in contemporary, luxury spaces. No way is it even reasonable to expect her to become the face of Uber-IBS.

zzzz

R361 meet R416

"elimination organ output problem '"

Isn't that what caused the Space Shuttle to explode?

I hope that after her colectomy they preserved it in a jar of formaldehyde for future display in the British Museum.

Maybe she has uncontrolled anal leakage.

The car has 5 tires, this could be an AI or baddy photoshopped photo. Also weird that TMZ only has ONE shot. Really? IN 2024 they could only get one photo from a camera that must be from 1997.

Staged. I think it's Kate but damn is the KP Comms team a bunch of amateurs.

r421 maybe William cheated on her again and she had a mental breakdown.

It's not a "body double." If it were a faker, it would just be a "double." "Body doubles" are body-only doubles for the movies, when a star doesn't want to show skin or wants to pretend he or she has a better physique.

But it's obviously not any kind of double.

R422, where do you see five tires?

Also, R422, that model Audi comes with a colostomy bag hook as standard. I see no hook. I see no bag.

FAKE!!!

Any actual dirt here or is it still insane people talking about psychics?

It’s probably real. I’m glad she’s OK. She must be doing pretty week to be out. I doubt they’d risk it if she wasn’t up and walking around for at least a couple of hours a day. Even a well maintained car could get a flat or break down and create a situation where she has to be going from one vehicle to another.

I’m bored with this now. I think that without realizing it I was a little worried about kids so young losing their mom. The glimpse through a car window strategy worked!

Streisand effect much? Or they think they can keep it secret.

They said from the start she wouldnt return to public life until after Easter when shed recovered from surgery.I am not sure why there are so many conspiracy theories and their promoters acting like this was never said and behaving like they cant understand it.

It's interesting from a gossip perspective. TMZ, an American outlet, ran the photo. Was the photographer British? If it was staged, careful considering was given to who was going to run with the photo.

r146 Harry didnt want to get the fuck out of there.He asked for a half in half out arrangement.The fairytale narrative of them fleeing to escape came later.

r150 bollocks .Harry and Meghans own on the record public behaviour is the source of most of the media articles about them. The Harkles also paid sunshine sachs in the US to put regular stories about them in the media.

R431 People are saying that Backgrid provided the photo. I don't know much about them though.

Also, the Daily Fail hasn't written an article about it which really stands out because they're usually right on this kind of thing. Makes me think that the UK media has been given instructions...

Hoping the foreign media can get the real scoop sometime.

^ I retract the Mail comment - they have an article up now.

The DM isn't showing the photo and it's already very odd. Five tires on a car, Kate looking AI generated. It's just not passing the smell test. KP shouldn't have gone this route.

That’s not a tire r436. It’s just a random object, probably a tree.

So this paparazzi image is simultaneously AI generated, a body double, and Pippa? We're really through the looking glass here people.

There are 5 tyres on the car. It is clearly AI and AI interpreted the prompt with Katie Holmes’ face.

If that is indeed Kate (still not convinced because her face looks too full), I'm sorry that she got dragged out of her death bed and shoved in an Audi of all vehicles for a photo op. Where is the Bentley or a horse and carriage, something a little more regal than an Audi. And why isn't her husband driving her? All of this is a little too fishy.

r437 what is the object then? Not a tree because the tree line doesn't match and it has a silver interior matching the other two tires on the driver's side.

r440 and it's a damn rental. Has a no-smoking sticker on the windshield found on rentals. Nothing makes sense about that photo.

OMG, it is a rental. I bet they were forced to get the full CDW, in case her colostomy bag burst.

Thank the Lord! Catherine is out and about. I can finally sleep tonight!

Can someone do something about this "five wheels" weirdo?

I still do not see five wheels. Not even close. Whatever looks like it is not even in focus, it’s so far away.

It does kind of look like five tires. The fifth tire is a tree trunk.

They all drive Audis, R440. The Bentleys are reserved for official occasions.

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R440, see the above article. Charles gets at least a 60% discount on Audis. The royals have an entire fleet of Audis. I'm sure the Middletons got in on the act and either get a 60% discount or more than likely charles gave them one of his cars to use. It might even be one of Kate's many cars. They also have a fleet of Range Rovers

Al of their vehicles are electric. I guess that is supposed to make up for all the private flights (by plane & helicopter) these eco warriors take all the time.

I thought the "five wheels" comments were silly, but then I zoomed in. How weird. The light even hits that object, and you can see it has some kind of hubcap. Also there appears to be part of another "wheel" to its left. Very strange.

Also, the front right side of the undercarriage is bizarrely pixelated.

Discounted Audis. Must be nice to be fuckin rich and getting discounts.

It's really odd how most of the British media really isn't questioning any of this, for almost 2 MONTHS.

They're just taking the word of the palace and printing whatever the palace tells them to print.

And now Camilla is taking a vacation. She says she's been working too hard. She did 13 engagements in a month. (about 40 hours total) and feels that warrants a vacation and so she's leaving her cancer stricken husband and going on vacation to get some sun for a week.

And since she filled in an did 2 engagements for charles, and now they're giving her an extra honour. She's getting a medal for doing her job. Seriously.

I'm R328. Kate and the rest of that family owe NO one an explanation. She is not the Queen, she's a worker-bee until that happens and it's no ones business what her medical status might be. The idea that everyone is up in arms over to know if she had a nervous breakdown, cancer, a hysterectomy, has a shit bag or anything else is almost frightening. Give the woman her privacy, she doesn't want to discuss this and it is no ones damned business. Everyone needs to shaddup, mind their own fookin' business and get on with their OWN lives. Busy-body freaks. Leave her alone.

[quote]It's really odd how most of the British media really isn't questioning any of this, for almost 2 MONTHS.

Proprietors and their Editors will have been requested - told - by senior courtiers to leave well alone, and given just enough information as to why.

This amorphous topic rapidly became boring.

Stabbed herself with with a lemon peeler

Lemon peeler tips can be used as strawberry corers.

[quote] still not convinced because her face looks too full

Post op steroids?

What exactly are the media meant to be "questioning", r454?

[quote]what is the object then? Not a tree because the tree line doesn't match and it has a silver interior matching the other two tires on the driver's side.

Suddenly feels like we're fraus on Websleuths.

I would only add to R456 that media has been told on pain of death enough about whatever ails her that they get it took time but is not all that shocking, so they're content to be in the loop without telling Joe Public. International publications wouldn't care if they're on the wrong side of the monarchy but British journalists, if the story is dull enough, might just bend.

A doctor friend of mine - who couldn't square the timeline in hospital - could only suggest it was some surgery to do with the reproductive organs and stressed that depending on the nature of it, abdominal surgery can take significant amount of time to recover form given the depth of muscle that has to be cut.

I guess it is in TMZ and nowhere else because somebody got lucky with a phone picture and sold it exclusively. Other papers are mentioning it but nobody is scalping it. It's locked down for $$$.

If it was a staged event to show she's alive, it would have been stage managed to get maximum exposure.

[quote] Wow.... Camilla is going on VACATION? Is that what wives normally do when their husbands have been diagnosed with cancer?

Camilla isn’t “wives.”

If I'm Queen, damn straight I'm going on vacation.

And, part of the point of separate vacations by long-term couples is temporarily vacating from each other.

Doesn't Camilla keep her own house?

Camilla has paid her dues. If she's going to sip martinis all day and wake up hungover and start all over again good for her.

Oh, the irony of R455's screed.

That grainy picture of her in the car reminds me of fake Melania

If one half of a “long-term couple” who leads an extremely cushy life goes on vacation shortly after the other half was diagnosed with cancer, that looks extremely cold and just plain odd and arrogant.

It’s comical to suggest Camilla has paid any “dues.”

[quote]Camilla has paid any “dues.”

She paid with nature's credit card.

[quote] The car has 5 tires

That’s a tree trunk in the background.

[quote] I’m bored with this now. I think that without realizing it I was a little worried about kids so young losing their mom

“Losing” sounds so passive. “Eliminating” is too harsh. “Misplacing?” Does that work?

[quote] They're just taking the word of the palace and printing whatever the palace tells them to print.

They can’t afford to be accused of driving another Princess to the point of suicide or exile.

Anne's husband got a black eye. Here's a Meg stan suggesting William did it.

(I don't think Anne would look too kindly upon anyone punching her husband in the face, future king or not.)

One doesn't pay dues one collects them.

R574 Giving Anne's hubby a black eye has been Anne's job for 32 years .

Did you know that Timothy Laurence’s family name was changed from Levy?

Camilla isn't going on a "cushy vacation", r469. She has a few days without engagements and will be spending the time with Charles and her family.

[quote]Camilla, 76, has no engagements in her diary this week, and it is understood that she will spend a few days of private downtime with the King and her own family.

Jeez I thought she was headed for the Caribbean the way people were moaning about it

[QUOTE]I guess it is in TMZ and nowhere else because somebody got lucky with a phone picture and sold it exclusively.

That's what I thought before all the AI debate. It's about the level of resolution one would expect from a phone from a quick snap

[QUOTE]Other papers are mentioning it but nobody is scalping it. It's locked down for $$$.

It may have been shopped around to UK tabloids first, but due to an agreement with the Palace there's an embargo, so the person went with a US media outlet.

THis is WHAT'S really like gONG on

The British tabloids know that there would be a huge public backlash against them if they violated Kate's privacy by publishing that photo, r480,

R482 - You wouldn't know that from many (majority?) of the posts on these threads. "Bbbut the taxpayers' right to know!"

The posters who say "Bbbut the taxpayers' right to know!" are Americans, r483.

The posters who say " Piffle ,we don't care how much they steal from us because they wear cute hats" have to be British R484 . Americans aren't that stupid.

R482 Spot on. We can see your angry mob storming Fleet St.

Americans voted their orange clown out. What can Brits do about your circus but wait for it to die.

Why is it a surprise that someone who's been lazy her whole adult life is milking 'recuperation time' for all she can?

Doctors will often give advice around taking it easy after an operation, but usually give lengthy timescales to ensure there's no comeback on them. But most average people will think "yeah right, as if I can take that long off work". But you can guarantee Kate will have been thinking "result, I get to sit on my arse for months and it's medically sanctioned!"

And I'm not saying any of this as a Meghan fan, she's even lazier.

[quote] Americans voted their orange clown out

Lies! Next time, I’m not leaving.

I bet it was a hysterectomy.

I don't think there'd be a backlash about that photo. She was in a vehicle, in public. It's not like they caught her in the bath.

Uncle Gary is the Maul saying "there's a reason" they managed Kate's surgery and recovery in the way they did.

Which, of course, will settle everybody down... eyeroll emoticon.

She’s back, bitches

^ that event is in June. It was undoubtedly scheduled many months ago and at any rate, it is more than two months “after Easter” so why the fuss.

It's also been confirmed that it's an error.

[quote] Prince William & Kate Middleton Are Reportedly in a PR Battle With King Charles III

It’s no secret that the royal family is in shambles right now. By taking one glance at social media last week, the #WhereIsKate hashtag dominated the feeds, and people who never pay attention to royal news were chiming in with their opinions. This PR debacle could have been avoided if the two warring palaces — King Charles III’s Buckingham Palace and Prince William and Kate Middleton’s Kensington Palace — agreed on their communication style.

For decades, Queen Elizabeth II ruled by the mantra, “Never complain, never explain,” and that’s the style the Prince and Princess of Wales have adopted since her passing in 2022. They didn’t address their feud with Prince Harry after his jaw-dropping allegations in his memoir, Spare, and they kept things rather vague with Kate’s recent medical leave. Charles, on the other hand, has decided to rule with more transparency, talking about his enlarged prostate and his cancer diagnosis, even though the specifics remain private.

The problem is that these two communication approaches oppose each other and make for a mess of headlines like we saw last week. There has to be a happy medium where everyone is on the same page — and Charles and Kate’s request for privacy is still honored. “They need to be aligned in their approach,” a former palace aide told The Telegraph. “At the moment, one palace never explains, the other is always explaining.” With the Wales’ explaining very little, it has allowed for the internet rumors to take on a life of its own.

It’s at the point of a PR disaster and has become what the outlet described as a “true challenge for the monarchy.” Kate’s pals are exasperated by the calls for her to appear in public after false narratives about her being in a coma circulated. “Why should she? Truly, I don’t get it,” the source said. “In what other circumstance would a woman take sick leave after a major operation, and instead of being allowed to recover she’s supposed to pose for pictures?” It seems absurd that the public would need a “proof of life” snapshot while Kate is recovering from a serious abdominal surgery, but perhaps a thank-you statement from the Princess of Wales would quiet the crowd.

The king wants to make sure that his followers understand that he’s still visible while he’s undergoing treatment. “It’s important that not only do we say he’s performing those duties, but he’s seen to be performing those duties,” a member of his staff noted. That’s why the public continues to see behind-the-scenes photographs and videos of his work routine. Yet the messaging is still convoluted when the two palaces seem miles apart on how to handle dueling crises — and it’s not helping the optics of how a modernized royal family doesn’t seem to have a place after Queen Elizabeth’s passing.

^^ Erudite insight from Kristen Burtt, SheKnows entertainment writer.

"When written in Chinese, the word 'crisis' is composed of two characters. One represents danger and the other represents opportunity"

[quote] And, part of the point of separate vacations by long-term couples is temporarily vacating from each other. Doesn't Camilla keep her own house?

They do live apart. And she was going on a vacation in the sun (somewhere warm) R479. She did have a vacation planned. Then she canceled it after all the complaints, "how could she go on vacation when her husband has cancer"? Even her best friend "royal reporters" were out and about, saying she "deserved to go on holiday because of ALL THE HARD WORK SHE'S DONE in the past month".

What a bunch of bullshit. She did one or two engagements that charles was supposed to do. Big deal. One was going to a memorial service. That lasted an hour. And that old bitch is getting a medal of honour for going to that memorial service. Jesus Christ, these people are the laziest, neediest assholes.

And R455, when Kensington Palace puts out a bunch of damned lies, people are owed an explanation. They are lying. Surgery, especially on a woman who up until 2 months ago was very healthy, do not take this long to recover from. They DO NOT. Hysterectomies do not take this long to recover from. She probably had some small growth's removed. And she left him while she was recovering. She was tired of his cheating. That's the real truth. They're separated. And she's doing what Diana did, took some time to herself.

Do you what would take this long to do? Figure out a divorce agreement for someone with a very complicated estate, like William. He's worth £1 billion pounds. It took quite a few months for Charles and Diana to come up with an agreement.

Well, R499 has all the answers. Thread closed, apparently.

Really?

"Reportedly."

"and it’s not helping the optics of how a modernized royal family doesn’t seem to have a place after Queen Elizabeth’s passing."

I can't understand this phrase. Can anyone translate?

QE2 is dead. Now that she's gone, there is a case for whether or not we should keep the monarchy. Charles and William are not behaving in such a manner that makes the Royal Family seem relevant or necessary.

If the two palaces are at war, the biggest difference between the two seems to be that Charles and Camilla actually love each other and know how to have fun. William and Kate seem scripted. Which party would you rather go to, Charles and Camilla's or William and Kate's?

The Sun is reporting that Kate’s prostate has spread to her gallbladder.

Um....is there a noun missing in the above post?

If that is Kate in the photo and she's doing the school run, you would think one of the parents or kids would have squealed by now.

Also, why doesn't she have bangs?

R504 Queen Elizabeth was the monarchy. She had earned the respect of not just the UK but peoples around the world. She did her job rain or shine for 70 years. She knew how to be the monarch. This lot has in the relatively short time since her death flushed it all down the loo. The sooner we unload these narcissistic scroungers the better.

R499 you need to employ a subeditor. Your third paragraph is nonsensical, even if you know what you mean.

[quote] Which party would you rather go to, Charles and Camilla's or William and Kate's?

Probably William and Kate's party. I'd be more curious about that.

Which party would you rather go to, Charles and Camilla's or William and Kate's?

None of the above.

R503 Perhaps you can understand this optic (put on your cheaters)

Well it's sort of like a lottery fantasy to imagine you can marry one and be in the club. I think that was part of the hate for Meg. Brits dreamed of being a princess and it went to a Yank!

Except, r508, and there is no discussion in the UK of getting rid of the royal family and Brits have no complaints about what Charles or William or Kate or Camilla are doing or not doing right now.

Exactly, R314. When I see the outraged posts on these threads re the alleged cost of the BRF or demanding a pap stroll from the Princess of Wales or detailed medical update on Charles’s cancer, almost always accompanied by “jokes” about tampons, bulimia, pegging etc my instinct is always to ask why, as Americans, do you care? They cost you nothing, they have no constitutional role in the USA and yet so many of you feel the need to share your usually misinformed opinions for a breathless DL membership.

Why?

I’ve asked before and got no response. I doubt that I’ll get one now.

Why? For the same reason some people care about Kardashians. Their lives are a public spectacle. The media (your media especially) treats them like a living soap opera. Plus silly costumes.

R515: it's jealousy. You don't get that worked up if you don't have a strong emotional reaction.

R513 And initially part of the draw for her. But then when she got married she realised what being a Royal is truly like, hence the escape plan and exaggerated stories of how 'badly' she was treated.

Harry probably realises his error now, but he needs to save face, hence doubling down. There's nothing for him here anymore.

Royal lover R499 is positively breathless. It's just great that the severely disadvantaged have an interest. You are loved and you matter 499!

It’s not my media, R516.

Oooh. Well then, never mind.

[quote] this could be an AI or baddy photoshopped photo.

I always said Kate was a baddy.

Anyone who thinks the royals are similar to the Kardashians really has no fucking clue.

Except, R514 you're a delusional cultist.

R350 said "the Royal family encourages the public to care about them. Like Kardashians."

Which is different from saying the Royal family is similar to the Kardashians. It's saying we're encouraged to care about them as we do about the Kardashians (because they're in the fucking news/gossip rags all the time).

Capisce?

Cue the Daily Mail WILLIAM IS MORE POPULAR THAN JESUS poll.😂

Because Jesus didn't shill Jesus Burgers .

Because, R515, people like to blow off steam and find humor and absurdity to get through the day.

^ Because like a bad expensive sitcom, what else are the Windsor's good for? I never get an answer.

Every country needs a mechanism to represent the nation. Out of curiosity, R529, name the inexpensive, good for much more alternative? The U.S. presidency? The General Secretary of the Chinese Communist Party? Compared to what is the British monarchy so pointless in your obviously decided view?

The Windsors what, R529?

Are you not familiar with the concept of the hereditary monarchy, R529? You know, that system of government that you Americans love to remind the world that you fought a war to dispense with? The monarch is the Head of State. S/he is succeeded by the next in line, hence the need for a royal family, to produce that line. Apart from a few working royals the rest of the royal mob aren’t publicly funded.

But even if they were - what’s it to you Americans? Why do you care? Do you always have to have an opinion on every fucking thing? Silly question - of course you do. Being American.

If you want entertainment then sit there slack jawed at Kim Kardashian’s fat plastic arse. Leave commentary on the specifics of government to the grownups.

Kate is boring, there's drama with her unlike Markle. Being boring Is generally a good thing in her role. Markle has been very entertaining because many of her actions like going to Ulvade are incomprehensible. As far as Kate's illness goes, I think bowel resectioning makes the most sense. It will be interesting to see how she performs in her role when she comes back.

Thought "entertaining" was what Katie did for a living.

[QUOTE]Anyone who thinks the royals are similar to the Kardashians really has no fucking clue.

Of course, there's a Kardashian story about Kate. Some time after her marriage to William, Kim sent a bunch of clothes from her fashion line to Kensington Palace. Fortunately, Kate had the excuse of not accepting freebies and returned the items with a nice note. I was so curious to know which items from her collection Kim thought were appropriate for a Princess of the United Kingdom.

Sex change operation gone wrong.

The BRF doesn't need American support to exist, but it needs American interest to keep the "celebrity" part of the job and all that comes with that going. If America stops caring, then everyone else does and that impacts the billion dollar tourism industry driven by that family.

How so, R537?

I really think Kate has mastered the art of being almost 100% boring and invisible, even when she is front and center. It's almost eerie, next level. I mentioned this a couple of years ago.

I'm surprised you had to quote yourself.

She willingly signed up for this. She knew that William was tiresome. But she wanted the tiara 👑 on her pea head. Now she can’t deal. ANY woman who marries into that lunatic asylum of a family deserves whatever they get.

R539 She's quite enigmatic. With most of the other royals you can get a sense of what drives them, their passions, their good qualities and faults. But Kate always seems like you can never really get a read on her. The walls never come down. You read in the books that come out and in the interviews about the other royals and details about their personalities and what they're really like (e.g. they're angry, difficult, funny etc) but with Kate there is nothing. You barely even get anecdotes or stories about her. It's a bit odd that she is so famous and yet we know so little about her.

Oh good god R537 - are you really that stupid?

Please give a breakdown of the “billion dollar tourism industry” (hyperbole much?) that is sustained by the BRF but only on the good will of America caring - what does that even mean? And that the rest of the world breathlessly waits for America’s view to know whether to follow their lead before travelling to the UK.

This is one of the most stupid comments that I’ve read on DL and I’ve seen quite a few.

[quote]Now she can’t deal.

How so?

[quote] She's quite enigmatic. With most of the other royals you can get a sense of what drives them, their passions, their good qualities and faults. But Kate always seems like you can never really get a read on her. The walls never come down.

Kate might just be boring and kind of stupid, frankly. No personality, no interests except that she really, really, really wanted to marry William.

The advantage of being quiet is that people do often give you the benefit of the doubt. You're labeled "mysterious" and maybe even "dignified."

R542 Waity Katie was a puppet of her ambitious mum. She is dull and rather thick . Willy almost dumped her. Not a particularly hands on mother. Like most of the Royals she's a boozer. She can't deal with her rageful philandering hubby so she drinks and starves herself. At 40 it caught up with her. Boo Hoo. Be careful what you scheme for.

[quote] Kate Middleton’s name quietly removed from website that hinted at her return to royal duty post-surgery

Where in the world is the Princess of Wales?

The British Army’s website quietly removed Kate Middleton‘s name from the list of attendees for the Colonel’s Review Tuesday after it was speculated that the event would be one of her first appearances since her abdominal surgery.

On Tuesday, her office at Kensington Palace said they hadn’t been consulted about her appearance, per People.

Prior to the removal of her name, it was reported that the Princess of Wales, 42, would have been examining the Foot soldiers as the honorary Colonel of the Irish Guards at the pre-Trooping the Colour event.

Following the inspection, the members will line the processional route along the Mall in London.

Trooping the Colour is a batch of ceremonial events that mark and celebrate the birthday of King Charles III — even though the monarch’s actual birthday is in November.

Middleton has been in attendance for all of the events since she married Prince William, 41, in 2011.

The Post reached out to Kensington Palace for comment.

Since undergoing a “successful” abdominal surgery on Jan. 17, Middleton has remained largely out of the limelight, opting to recover from her home at Adelaide Cottage in Windsor.

In her absence, several conspiracy theories have taken root.

“Kensington Palace made it clear in January the timelines of the princess’ recovery and we’d only be providing significant updates. That guidance stands,” her office told The Post last week, adding that she was “doing well.”

The mother of three was spotted on Monday for the first time since her surgery sitting in the passenger seat of a car with her mother, Carole Middleton, near Windsor Castle.

In the extremely grainy photos, the future queen can be seen attempting to blend in with dark sunglasses and a dark jacket.

Shortly after announcing Middleton’s surgery, palace officials stated that she’d be “unlikely to return to public duties until after Easter.”

“The Princess of Wales appreciates the interest this statement will generate. She hopes that the public will understand her desire to maintain as much normality for her children as possible; and her wish that her personal medical information remains private,” the initial statement said at the time. “Kensington Palace will, therefore, only provide updates on Her Royal Highness’ progress when there is significant new information to share.”

The mysterious disappearance surrounding the princess comes as King Charles III continues to undergo treatment for an unspecified form of cancer, which was discovered when he underwent a procedure for an enlarged prostate.

Amid the royal family’s ups and downs, Prince William’s spokesperson told People on Wednesday that “his focus is on his work and not on social media.”

It is kind of weird to so massively be aligned with a regiment of which she is the royal colonel.

Maybe they couldn’t decide if it was the Princess of Wales or Kate Middleton who was expected to attend Trooping the Colour. Or possibly Princess Kate? Duchess Catherine? No wonder people say that she’s lay - she’s job-sharing with three other women.

Amazing R547! You must be quite the royal insider to be privy to this information.

Make that “lazy”, not “lay” in R549 above.

^ R548 She is a wounded warrior! Sure you sleep so much better knowing Kate Middleton is Royal Colonel ready to repel the enemy!

I think an owl got into the palace, attacked her, and she fell down the staircase.

[quote]It's a bit odd that she is so famous and yet we know so little about her.

To an extent that was true about the mystique of The Queen - so Kate has that significant role model. However, The Queen was visibly passionate about horses, horse racing, and dogs. I'm not sure Kate has yet established any comparable core interests.

Maybe she went completely crazy and pulled out all her hair and teeth.

Just kidding. Camilla probably poisoned her and now she’s dead. Chuckie 3 better hire a food taster.

[quote]She's quite enigmatic. With most of the other royals you can get a sense of what drives them, their passions, their good qualities and faults. But Kate always seems like you can never really get a read on her. The walls never come down.

Wasn't QE2 famously known for this very same quality? And in terms of passions, I mean, yeah, I guess she liked horses and corgis. Kate likes photography and athletics. QE2 was also embarrassingly uncultured and had the formal education of a 7th grader. All of this worked for her quite well as a monarch.

[quote] that was true about the mystique of The Queen - so Kate has that significant role model

Kate is NO Queen Elizabeth II.

What a laugh.

Sigh. The reply at R504 was in response to R503's question and not a reflection of what I think.

Did William punch her in the stomach?

Why wouldn't the monarchy be kept?

No other head of state is immune to illness so getting rid of them wouldn't eliminate that risk.

Some of you seem to forget the job isn't reality television or all engagements, plaque unveilings and soft diplomacy (although that's the main job of anyone who isn't sovereign.) But in addition to upending a thousand years of tradition and history, you'd be radically rewriting the constitution, with all the political and economic risks and complications that would entail. Would Scotland declare independence? Would Wales? What happens to Ireland? What does the uncertainty do the economy? To the markets? To NATO?

I guess I'd like to know the factual basis for "the case for whether or not we should keep the monarchy." What would it be replaced with? What are the implications? What is the timeline? Most importantly, why? Just because the Queen died? The minute she did, the Crown passed and the function of monarchy continued on, seamlessly except for restrictions on the ability of the King and Kate to mingle for a period of time.

It's no use, R550. A lot of this on-line anti-monarchy sentiment stems from low-education, low-income Meghan Markle fans who have mentally conjured up a competition between Kate and Meghan even though Meghan has been absent from the UK longer than she was ever there. To them, the monarchy should be abolished (and Kate along with it) because the monarchy rejected Meghan. It is as simple as that.

Even though Meghan has flamed out spectacularly in the US and become a laughingstock on this continent, in their deluded minds the UK press and the monarchy are secretly the cause of her failures - and not because she is a minimally talented former cable tv actress with little to offer and a shit attitude on top.

Meghan's stans are really stupid, true, and low end.

[quote] A lot of this on-line anti-monarchy sentiment stems from low-education, low-income Meghan Markle fans

Why single them out?

Maybe this says more about my mistaken pre-suppositions, but when the august, elevated NY Times publishes a story about the Sussexes and allows comments, the Sussexes garner plenty of support, and, of course, calls to abolish the UK monarchy.

They get criticized, too,

I may be engaging in my own stereotypes, but you have to subscribe to the NY Times to comment. I doubt the NY Times is the go-to source for the low educated, low income Markle fans.

I dislike the Sussexes. I write this as someone who started out wanting to like them. I also think that when she was first introduced as Harry's girlfriend, there is no denying that SOME of the UK tabloid coverage contained more than a tinge of bigotry.

Then, in a breathtakingly risky move, they pushed all their chips in on that Oprah, went to Defcon 1, and insinuated bigotry on the part of Q E II's immediate family.

That worked. And I believe the Sussexes knew the power of that insinuation and decided the risk was worth it if they were to gain the "A List" position they saw for themselves.

It worked with some people because it reinforced already existing negative reactions to monarchy itself, with all of its negative effect with regard to colonialism and the treatment of women.

I too, believe that, while playing that card may have paid off in the short-term, ultimately it has backfired on them.

[quote]Why single them out?

Because they're mean cunt trolls. We're mean cunts, but not trolls.

I don’t know a single Meghan fan. The only (barely) famous one I know of is Lainey and she is likely paid off

Most Americans seemed to be on Harry and Meghan's side when they first quit as working royals. A few years later, though, most have grown weary of them and their constant whining.

They did that all by themselves.

What I find incredibly fascinating is that there can't be just one thread about the BRF without the people who say they hate Harry and Meghan dragging them into the discussion. A discussion that is not about them. This was a thread about the Princess of Wales.

Harry and Meghan are over here in America, focusing on the Invictus Games and their various charities and trying to build a life with their children, yet that doesn't stop the UK Tabloids from writing about them every day and commenting on them. The monetization of Harry and Meghan Hate is real, and people have made millions by trashing them.

And you guys rehashing every bit of unproven tabloid gossip that was ever written them, serves no purpose. Every new rumor just fades away without any proof or backup, because there is none. People just move on to the next made up rumor. And those of you who keep going back to the Oprah well. Whether you agree with it or not, they needed that vehicle to get their side of the story out. In the same way that Harry used "Spare" to get his side of the story out. Because they were left with no other recourse other than to suffer in silence while others leaked stories about them to improve their position.

They left, they're over here, and yet that family is still a mess. If you truly wanted them to go away, you'd stop talking about them.

How is the family "a mess", r567?

They get dragged in. R567, because some klan granny idiot shows up and invokes them. That's when the discussion stirs up again. Occasionally somebody takes the piss out of them because, let's be honest, they're kind of a joke. But 90% of their mentions is when they make the news for their latest own goal or one of their welfare case morons stomps in with juvenile gifs, splattering klan grannies everywhere. So let's at least assess the situation honestly. There's plenty of blame to go around, if mentioning the Sussexes offends you, but it's far from equally distributed.

R533, nobody just goes and gets their bowel's resectioned. They are usually very sick, for many years before the surgery.

Whatever is wrong with her, they aren't telling the truth.

[quote]Because they were left with no other recourse other than to suffer in silence while others leaked stories about them to improve their position.

It's this kind of revisionist bullshit that fires it up.

Like they're little innocents without their own army of PRs.

They are playing the game and a big part of the strategy is playing the media and the public, so they're fair game whether you're on their side or not.

My last reply to this one, who's adopted the tactic appearing reasonable while obviously being a hardcore stan. It's just a variation on the "why are you so obsessed with a woman you don't even know" through line.

Mentioning Harry and Meghan does not offend me. But there are gazillion Harry and Meghan threads focused on them and how terrible they're supposed to be. Why can't you guys let Kate have one thread to herself?

I think it's just the refusal to let the Megaloons run rampant without reply, R572. I don't believe the majority of references come from DLers, but from people who come here to stir shit. Human nature. I'd be happy never to hear that woman's name again, but if she's the topic of discussion, it's fun to size her up.

[quote] A lot of this on-line anti-monarchy sentiment stems from low-education, low-income Meghan Markle fans

Low income?

You mean like Carole Goldsmith Middleton and her brother "Uncle Gary" Goldsmith, who grew up in Public Housing?

THAT kind of low income?

Bwahahahahahahaha!!!!

[quote] A lot of this on-line anti-monarchy sentiment stems from low-education, low-income Meghan Markle fans

Speaking of low-income, low-education....

If you want to go there Klan Granny, then let's go there.

[quote] Carole Elizabeth Goldsmith was born on 31 January 1955 in Perivale, London, the daughter of Ronald (1931–2003) and Dorothy Goldsmith (née Harrison; 1935–2006); she is the older sister of IT recruitment multi-millionaire Gary Goldsmith. Her paternal family are descended from coal miners, and were described as working class. Her father was a builder, while her mother worked part-time in a jewellery store. Goldsmith spent her early years in a small house in Southall, attending the local state schools.

[quote] She initially left school aged 16, but soon returned and achieved four A Levels. Goldsmith originally planned on being a teacher, but her parents were unable to put her through college.

The royal family has had a lock on the press for years after Diana’s death and because QEII was in control but now we are witnessing the press turn on the RF by exploiting the mystery surrounding Kate’s medical condition and absence.

Harry and Megan are getting a short break from bad press and that shows they have a point in that the RF did not extend their protection to them initially at least in the same way other senior members are shielded.

A short break from bad press ...except for instance Haz's massive security lawsuit loss and all the lies it revealed. No, your racist daddy didn't refuse to give your white as snow black spawn worldwide security, Prince Karen, the govt decided that.

Waah waah waah

Speaking of bad press, let's talk about Uncle Gary in the Big Brother house...

Gotta love Uncle Gary!

So what did Uncle Gary say?

Kate and William have troublesome uncles in common.

Didn't Meghan disown her diplomat uncle who helped her get an internship at the American embassy in Argentina when she was a student?

Meghan certainly didn't grow up low income. Her father paid for her to have a great private education when her mother disappeared from her life when she was a child.

Gary went to Kate's wedding. Meghan's uncle didn't go to hers.

R563 in the early days when the Sussexes left the RF and came to America, there was overwhelming support in the NYTimes comments because readers bought into the whole racism accusation. However after the Sussexes Netflix "documentary" and "Spare" public opinion among NYTimes readers did a 180.

R583, as I recall, no invitation was sent to the uncle. I assume you mean the respectable one, in the diplomatic corps.

You are indeed correct, R585. It was reported he was not invited. IIRC, her only family member there was her mother.

Doria left Meghan with her father?

Meghan's uncle wasn't invited to Meghan's wedding, r583. Meghan didn't invite any of her relatives to her wedding, aside from her mother. No other relatives even from her mother's side.

r587:

[quote]Both parents contributed to raising Meghan and, at the age of 9, she started living full-time with her father as Ragland pursued a career.[22] He paid for Meghan's entire private education from preschool at Hollywood Little Red Schoolhouse to Northwestern University as well as other living expenses.[23] In addition to his regular job, Markle spent time helping with lighting for plays and musicals at Immaculate Heart High School, which Meghan attended.[24]

Maybe Kate found out that William was cheating with the wife - of the guy who committed suicide. And Kate had a breakdown. And the guy was humiliated. (Then William did not attend his funeral.) Could it be that twisted?

Or Will caught Kate with the guy and he shot them both, killing his cousin’s husband and injuring Kate.

Yes that sounds completely plausible R590.

R590, isn’t that William’s cousin? Oh well, never stopped the royals before.

R542 You can't distinguish between an enigma and a void.

But she hasn't endorsed Trump?!

* sorry, wrong thread

r576 The claim the royal family had a lock on the press since Diana died and then that changed when the Queen died is total BS. They received lots of negative press in that long time period including Harrys dressing up as a Nazi, Harrys Las Vegas antics, Prince Andrew being forced to step down from his trade ambassador role in 2011 after bad press, Criticism of York sisters security costs, Criticism of Camilla being invited to the 10 year Diana memorial service in 2007, criticism of Anne for being abrupt and being charged over her dog attacking someone, criticism of Princess Michael of Kents antics and an insinuation she had an affair, criticism of Kate and Williams workload, criticism of Charles for writing letters to government ministers and that been taken to court by the press,, criticism over the Paul Burrell trial collasping etc etc etc etc

There’s a conference coming up in Austin Texas, the 38th edition of the annual SXSW Conference, which celebrates the convergence of technology, film, television, and music. One of the panels, “Breaking Barriers, Shaping Narratives: How Women Lead On and Off the Screen”, includes feminist and champion of human rights and gender equity, New York Times bestselling author, and co-founder of The Archewell Foundation and Archewell Productions Meghan, The Duchess of Sussex.

By coincidence, Archiewell is sponsoring this panel.

Two other panelists for this are Katie Couric and Brooke Shields. Speakers on other topics have a bio listed on their page. Most are a paragraph, five lines at most. Neither Couric nor Shields have one. Megs’ runs a full page. She includes her high school! and lists every faux award, her college majors, and her #1 podcast. It concludes with her Prince husband and Prince son and Princess daughter. No one else mentioned spouses or kids.

You can really appreciate it better with the visual, R598.

The National Enquirer says it's cancer and bulimia damage.