DL fave Princess Michael's son-in-law found dead

Said not to be connected to why William missed memorial service. Shocking to die so young.

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Shocker. As we say here on DL, so young. His in-laws, Prince and Princess Michael, were front and center at King Constantine's memorial at St George's earlier today, if something nefarious happened I'm sure they would have pulled out of the service.

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Will the PrinCESS wear a blackamoor brooch at the funeral?

Rough trade?

Fentanyl?

He was found unresponsive at a house in Gloucestershire. Would that be a family home, or something else? On a Sunday evening, emergency services were called at 6 PM.

He was last photographed out with his wife on Valentine's day, a couple of weeks ago, and looked well enough.

I'm calling it now: asphyxiation by rubber suit in the bathtub, with plunger where it ain't supposed to be.

Just recalled that Gabriella was King Constantine's goddaughter, she was very likely invited to the memorial service today and I'm guessing that several of the royals present today might have known this news before the public did.

They also obviously waited to announce the news after the memorial service and reception were over and everyone returned home, so as not to pull focus.

I am worried because I took the vaccine.

Drugs.

Damn. He was good looking, too.

R9 Yeah the wording of this is odd. Had he died at home, I feel like the press would just say he was found dead at his home or at the couple's home. But an address Gloucestershire suggests it was not his place of residence.

He looks like Armand Hammer

Suicide?

Megan assassinated him, obviously

Dan Stevens can play him in the inevitable TV movie.

I know I have seen her in Provincetown.

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A cousin of mine died at 45 of a heart attack about 10 years ago. He was fit, but had a very stressful job and was a smoker. I had no idea people still died of heart attacks at age 45. Wonder if something similar happened here.

Nothing to see here. Move it along!

If only a link would be posted with everything I need to know there!

R21 R22 R23 R24 R25

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST, MARY. We got the fucking point.

Nurse cut a chicken bone out of his throat, but he very clearly ordered the beef!

He looked too smarmy and self-satisfied to be a suicide.

I’m calling it: DRUGS

Drugs. They were almost newlyweds.

Who knew Joe Rogan was such a crazy eyed old queen?

Only married five years

The 'Hello' article said he 'lit up the lives' of all who knew him.

I'm calling it now-It was *Murder*

[quote]'lit up the lives' of all who knew him.

He was lit alright. Every time we saw him.

They're harvesting the organs of the lesser nobles to reanimate Charles and Kate.

I wondered why they hadn't had children yet especially since Gabriela was getting up in age. It's what upper class British couples do. I thought she may have been pregnant when she fainted at the Queen's vigil. Fertility at her age may be an issue, but so would an addict husband/father. Shocking, though.

Her parents showed up to the memorial for King Constantine today, so they're not prostrate with grief.

[quote]with plunger where it ain't supposed to be

Speak for yourself.

Her father was Constantine’s cousin - of course he would there - prostrate with grief or not.

[quote] Her parents showed up to the memorial for King Constantine today, so they're not prostrate with grief.

I think you mean his in-laws, not his parents.

The phrase “found at an address in Gloucestershire” is curious. It was either a planned suicide and he wanted to spare his wife from finding the body or an unplanned drug overdose.

I'm betting an OD, which is why he wasn't at a recognizable address.

Didn't Gabriella's brother Freddy also have drug problems? that would be a sad coincidence.

Maybe they have a country home in Gloucestershire. Isn't the trendy area Cotswolds there?

[QUOTE]An inquest will be held but there are no suspicious circumstances and no other parties involved.

It sounds just like what the authorities said about Sinead O'Connor's death.

He died in the arms of his homosexual lover at their secret love nest in Gloucestershire...

Oh, the scandal of it all

Maybe he died at SoHo Farmhouse!

Charlottes really cleaning house.

What does the earlier article from Google news say?

I calling a heart attack , his face was red red in the lake photo.

Never heard of either of them.

R42 I was referring to his widow Lady Gabriella, whose parents most certainly are Prince Michael of Kent and his wife.

But thanks for telling me what you thought that I meant!

[quote] Damn. He was good looking, too.

Was he?

^ For a Brit over 30 he was damn good looking. Even had nice teeth 😬

Died of a heart attack while banging his affair partner.

Why else was he at a random address which they fail to name. If it were innocent, they'd note in the article something along the lines of "at the home of his friend, business partner (insert innocent relationship)" rather than the pointedly ambiguous "at an address in Gloucestershire."

^ Ah, the old death by Rockefeller... Died with his dick in his mistress

Never ever pat Charlotte on the head. ☠️

R56, are you sure he was with his mistress"? Couldn't he have been with a mister? And, *gasp* maybe it was death with a 'T'... and that means it was literal violence!!!

“Never heard of either of them”.

I’m sure that this will be shocking news for the British Royal Family, R51.

What if he was with his (rumored) ex, PIPPA!

Never heard of them, but he was nice looking.

He probably died from embarrassment being married to a chick that looks like a Pelican.

^ Maybe he found out his mother in law is a Nazi

At AN address in Gloucestershire but there are no suspicious circumstances and no other parties involved.

OK.

Shocking. He and Gabriella just got married in 2019. Very sad.

RIP

R55 Yes, this is what circumcision tradition in the royal families does. The penis becomes desensitized and the man has to fuck like an animal. That gives you heart attacks.

He choked on really thick, chunky foreign baby batter; the load got stuck in his throat& he couldn't breathe-he died. The foreign worker didn't know what to do!!

Almost certainly uncut . . . Yuck!

. . .

News has updated to him being found dead at his parents' home near Cirencester in Gloucestershire. So far I've only seen it on Daily News which doesn't post well here. When it's updated else where I'll post a link (or I'm sure someone will beat me to it)

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I posted because it’s a really nice looking house…

Would he do drugs at his parents' home? That sounds like a it much

^ a bit much

Given he died at his parents house, I'm thinking heart attack or aneurysm.

I wonder who found the body? When I first heard the news, I assumed he killed himself at a hotel to spare his wife the trauma of finding him…his poor parents.

He did something “in finance” so maybe he was in financial trouble? These types often seem to jump out the window when things start to unravel.

Lady G had a husband.

Sad!

Is he the one who dumped Pippa Middleton and then she married her current husband on the rebound?

No.

R79 yes he was who dated Pippa

Nico Jackson.

This was the guy who is reported to have broke-up with Pippa Middleton and she was heartbroken. Then she married her husband on the rebound.

Nico Jackson was kinda hot.

Looks like everyone has dumped our Pippa...

[R79] yes he was who dated Pippa

R79- Why insist on such falsehoods despite contrary photographic evidence? It was some other snoot British aristocratic whose mother went apeshit and immediately put the kibosh on the wedding because the "noble woman" didn't want her son's progeny whelping any of her high-born grandchildren.

[R79] yes he was who dated Pippa

R79- Why insist on such falsehoods despite contrary photographic evidence? It was some other snoot British aristocratic whose mother went apeshit and immediately put the kibosh on the wedding because the "noble woman" didn't want her son's progeny whelping any of her high-born grandchildren.

[R79] yes he was who dated Pippa

R79- Why insist on such falsehoods despite contrary photographic evidence? It was some other snoot British aristocratic whose mother went apeshit and immediately put the kibosh on the wedding because the "noble woman" didn't want her son's progeny whelping any of her high-born grandchildren.

Lady Gabriella has not had luck with men. Her ex, Aatish Taseer, wrote a catty article on their relationship back in 2018 for Vanity Fair. Aatish is now married to a man named Ryan.

@r86, Stutter much?

R81, R82 and R84 - the name you are grasping for is Alex London - former test cricketer now financier.

I have no idea why I got triple posted! I pressed only once at r84, etc.

Make that “Loudon”, not “London”. Thanks, autocorrect.

Lady Gabriella looks exactly like Princess Anne.

Who dies in their own vomit these days?

^ Can't kill those horsey Windsor genes

I love a mystery.

[quote]the "noble woman" didn't want her son's progeny whelping any of her high-born grandchildren.

Her son's progeny would be her grandchildren. Try using small words until you learn what the big ones mean.

The “noble woman” was the mother of Alex Loudon, who dated Pippa for a while. A former professional cricketer, now a financier.

Lady Gabriella has the toothy Windsor look, but she is elegant in her own way and not as "brassy" as her mother is in her presentation. Demure, I guess one would term her. She has great skin and hair, so there's that.

Her late husband was cute in a blond, English way. They photographed well together and seemed (from photo view) to be happy. Sad for her that he's gone.

R 93, Tyler Christopher for one .

[quote]but she is elegant in her own way and not as "brassy" as her mother is in her presentation.

I guess when you’re from the colonies, you might consider it brassy since you’ve not seen anything more than a grass skirt.

So he died from a 'traumatic head injury' and a gun was found next to him. Not suspicious. I find it very annoying that the UK press can't say 'suicide' any more.

BREAKING: Thomas Kingston died from a "traumatic head wound" with a gun found near to his body, Gloucestershire Coroner's Court has heard.

Very sad for his wife.

I think R76 got it - probably he made some bad deals and felt that life wasn't worth living if he wasn't financially successful. In 2017 the Palace said that he "works in frontier market investment and is a Director of Devonport Capital." That sounds like a risky area to me.

One observes, with the usual combination of amusement and disdain, how the people of the DL turns these threads into heartfelt memorial posts full of their sympathy and wet-tissue waves.

I used to think it was how people sought to feel human.

Now it seems it's people being full of themselves and thinking that every place on the planet, physical or virtual, is the right place for them to take a clueless, selfish piss on and call it a floral tribute.

Very sad. It was most likely due to financial or work-related reasons. That's usually the case for those in his social class or strata. Lots of pressure there, to keep up appearances.

R105 "One observes" that you are a stupid and pretentious piece of shit.

Well, it's sad, R105. Even if you have no connection whatsoever to the deceased, you can't help but feel sorry for his family - particularly his elderly father, who'll have to live with the memory of finding his son's body like that for the rest of his life.

@r107, And now you know why I blocked r105 a long time ago 🤨

Very sad for Lady Gabriella. She was some kind of cousin of the late ex-King Constantine: her grandmother, Marina, the Duchess of Kent, wife of George, the Duke of Kent (brother of George VI), was first cousins with ex-King Constantine's father, Paul. (Marina was also a first cousin of Prince Philip.)

Okay, now I'm pissed off at him. How dare he do that to his elderly parents?? What an asshole.

It could be suicide, could be murder and look like suicide. I have seen those English detective shows.

R112 OK but who would want to kill him? I don't see an obvious motive.

[quote] It could be suicide, could be murder and look like suicide. I have seen those English detective shows.

Inspector Barnaby and his dishy sidekick are on their way.

Very sad. I expect when you lose a lot of money and you are married to a minor royal, it would be headlines in the tabloids forever. For his parents sake, I hope he did it outdoors.

The article says he did it indoors, in a sort of barn. He locked the door.

He was extremely attractive (my opinion) why would such a beautiful man kill himself? The possibility exists that it could have been foul play. The area where he passed is geographically isolated.

I know a guy who went to Eton and studied finance. At first he seemed really gentle and nice. Every time I saw him he had a great sense of humor. I also felt bad for him because his soul mate dumped him and he is also gorgeous and could be a model. He has now become more harsh, and will lose his patience easily with his students. Perhaps the social rules were so stifling that he couldn’t take it anymore. It’s a restricted lifestyle when a person is expected to follow rules of decorum that were established prior to the advent of social media. In the past the story could be completely removed from the media but that is no longer possible. There is an interesting group of people that are speaking out against the insular secretive culture that is a contributing factor. That group detailed the social and psychological factors that result from being sent to a boarding school as a child, among other related factors. Then if one gets involved in the high roller clique, it’s a way to commit crimes together to ensure nobody will tell anyone.

I was going to post this article from Tatler yesterday, but forgot. A very nice treatment.

I doubt any of that had anything to do with Kingston, r117. Kingston wasn't an Etonian and worked for a very small finance firm that specalised in financing small and medium-sized companies in emerging markets. Your old Etonian acquaintance is a rarity (Etonians are drowning in self-confidence) and that video is full of cliches.

Kingston was a Christian who worked for the Foreign Office's diplomatic missions unit, which took him to Iraq in 2003, where he was apparently a hostage negotiator.

I know it’s unlikely and a long shot, but could he have been suffering from PTSD given his work in Iraq? I fell so sorry for his wife and parents, especially if this came out of the blue with no red flags that something was wrong.

Perhaps the horror of what’s going on in Gaza triggered some unpleasant memories of Iraq and all that entails

Or maybe he simply suffered from clinical depression and killed himself. We’ll never know, nor should we.

He sounds like a very empathetic, caring person in Iraq and then he goes into finance which I understand to be populated by sociopaths.

"He looked too smarmy and self-satisfied to be a suicide."

YOU sound too smarmy and self-satisfied. Could you be more wrong, R31?

"He looked too smarmy and self-satisfied to be a suicide."

YOU sound too smarmy and self-satisfied. Could you be more wrong, R31?

laughing now to see R21, R22, R23, R24 and R25. Hun, you don't know shit and don't have any contacts. Why do people lie online?

I have read several media stories about Thomas Kingston and his death. Not one of them used the word "suicide." Although a gun at the scene was reported. Could his death be accidental, maybe while he was handling of cleaning the gun. My first thought was suicide, but it just seems strange that none of the stories would use that word.

R127 It's some stupid policy for British media to not use that word now. I think it's stupid but the reasoning is that it encourages people to kill themselves too.

So now I have to look at the bottom of articles. If they link to a suicide hotline, it was probably suicide.

The whole thing is pathetic and the antithesis of reporting news but there you are.

Suicides are not always reported as suicides for insurance purposes.

A gun accidentally goes off while someone is “cleaning” it, then the widow can collect on life insurance as accidental death. Someone intentionally kills themselves, insurance won’t pay out.

This has nothing to do with insurance. There is an omerta in the British media about suicide now. They won't directly say that someone killed themselves any more. You have to read in between the lines.

He was killed in a locked room, by Schrödinger's cat.

Yes, Tom Kingston happened to be cleaning a loaded gun that was aimed at his head and it somehow went off. While he was in a locked (from the inside since his father had to force it) outbuilding. /sarcasm

Sometimes, the combination of poppers and viagra can cause a heart attack.

Especially if you’re being fisted. Repeatedly.

R129, at least in America, life insurance pays out for suicides. Not in the first year or two, they don’t want people abusing the system, but after that your heirs still get a big fat check if you off yourself.

I'd have banged him.

But not in that way.

For all of Datalounge's fuckery, Thomas Kingston was an unremittingly decent person. And maybe better than most of us these days.

It can't be reported as a suicide yet because the facts haven't been established yet, there has been no inquest and no official investigation has been concluded.

@r137, Unfortunately outward appearances are deceiving. Good-looking, financier, military honors, royal marry-in would normally spell success to the outside world, but troubled on the inside. Very sad 😠

He wasn't military.

R134 I never knew that, when did they start to pay?

[quote] It's some stupid policy for British media to not use that word now. I think it's stupid but the reasoning is that it encourages people to kill themselves too. So now I have to look at the bottom of articles. If they link to a suicide hotline, it was probably suicide. The whole thing is pathetic and the antithesis of reporting news but there you are.

The press has the job of reporting the facts , i.e. that Mr Kingston was found with a traumatic wound to the head, in a locked room, with a gun at his side, after his family became sufficiently concerned about him to search for him and bust open the door.

We are all free to interpret those facts, but it’s up to the coroner, not The Daily Mail, to use those facts (and post mortem reports and evidence from the victim’s GP) and his likely mental state leading up to the event) to reach a judgment and state the cause of death.

His poor parents. People are so far gone when they kill themselves that nothing will stop them not even loved ones that they wanted to see before they pull the trigger so to speak.

@r140, He wasn't military.

My bad, I meant diplomatic honors during a military operation...

"One of the most distinctive features of his life was the time Kingston spent on the ground in Iraq, after the 2003 invasion, where he was a kind and intuitive pair of hands on diplomatic missions. Having graduated from Bristol University with a degree in economic history, Kingston joined the diplomatic missions unit for the Foreign Office in Iraq. During his time there, Kingston channelled his Christian faith and worked tirelessly to help Christian Iraqis rebuild their lives. He was based at the only Anglican church in Iraq, St George's, Baghdad, a former palace of Saddam Hussein's."

Why do people like R126 freak out any time someone comes in and says they know someone. I am not R21 etc, but I have had this same experience on DL. Due to where I live and the work I do I know many many people who were either in the military, at school, working in the households, business advisors, kids in common at Lambrook, etc. Just because YOU live far, far away doesn't mean there aren't actual real people in and around the BRF daily. I am just a regular person who happens to have a lot of proximity to the family. I do not work for the BRF, nor do I know them, but but I'm surrounded by and friends with loads of people who do.

I am an American (in UK for 10 years now) so I understand the feeling of living in a massive country with hundreds of millions of people where running into and being connected to anyone famous is a long shot. I live in the Home Counties in the UK, it is a very very small world.

If the cause of death isn't discussed, pro-covid activists will attribute the death to the vaccine.

R145 More fool you, stupid American. I am born and bred British, live here. I bet you don't know a single member of the royal family personally either for all your blabbering about how small the world here is. FYI, I've met a few but I don't personally know them. There are certain people on Datalounge who like to pretend that they have special information - I've seen it happen before and then they get their special information wrong - I called that poster out.

R147, had a little spice in your coffee this morning? I specifically said I do not know anyone in the BRF. It's in black and white above, but yeah, you got me.

I know many people who know Harry, a few who know William, a couple of people who know the Edinburghs, a few people on staff at Eton when H&W were there, to name a few. A close friend works in a business advisory role face to face with the BRF. I know a handful of parents at Lambrook. I do not claim to have special information, but do keep going. And I'm sorry you don't like my comment about it being a small world. In my location and line of work, it most certainly is. Have the day you deserve. Toodles!

R148 Well, dummy, it's even smaller a world in that group. And they are not going to go talking obviously. The car crash story was laughable.

Which car crash story is that? Diana was in a car crash. Are you referring to Harry's "near-catastrophic car chase"? Then yes, I agree with you.

Done with this now. Ciao.

[quote]For all of Datalounge's fuckery, Thomas Kingston was an unremittingly decent person. And maybe better than most of us these days.

Maybe, and people only say nice things, but it stands out that someone who seemingly had a lot to live for suddenly decided to kill himself. There could have been an event that prompted that. It could be standard depression to personal troubles to financial difficulties all the way to having done something serious.

It was found in a NY police report that the Harkles were indeed in danger but nobody has been charged. Yes I know totally insane. They must have made all the green lights. The cabbie who said there was nothing dangerous about the ride has not been heard from since.

@r151, How the hell do you know it was "sudden". He could have been planning this for a long time

The DL know-it-alls on this thread are mind boggling

He must have made some financial decisions that were disastrous and an enormous sum of money was unrecoverable. Perhaps for others and his own family. What other choice did he have? Call a suicide hotline where the best they can do is 'Well what do you expect me to do about all your miserable problems?'

The ripple effect of this might be enormous. We shall see. Kind of like the one son of Madoff who lost money for so many friends his only option was to kill himself. The other one didn't have to. His cancer came back.

R153 The family statement said that his death came as "a great shock" so that's what I mean by sudden, rather than from Kingston's POV (yes, he could have been planning it). I've personally had a friend kill himself and no-one who knew him was shocked because he talked about it a lot and his life was a mess.

R152 he was just a random cab driver, why would we ever hear of him again?

Awww- Gabriela is not too attractive.

But she snagged a good looking man 👨.

Hanger-on to the hangers-on of minor royalty. Yawn…

R156 Because he was there, driving?

The NYPD has subsequently denied the assertions made in the letter.

Obviously this could be nothing to do with finances but I have to say that I wonder how the finances of a lot of these people work. There must be a lot of pressure and expenses that come with being in that world and just because your parents have money doesn't necessarily mean that they're giving you it. For example, to buy a house in a good area of London or even in the south, you practically need over £1m these days and if you're getting 4x salary mortgage, that means you need a household income of £250,000 which is very high for the UK (salaries here are not like in the US) and very few people achieve that. Private school fees. Tailoring. Car, travel, horses, etc...

'The NYPD has subsequently denied the assertions made in the letter.'

I didn't know that. It didn't make much sense in any case.

I still found this shocking, if just because from the outside it looked as if they had it all. One of the UK papers said they lived comparatively modestly for people of that crowd - a flat in Notting Hill, which you can snag across a range of prices but let's guess 1 - 2 million pounds. His parents were successful, he was successful, she probably had a little money from inheritance or what have you. I guess it was PTSD due to Iraq?

[quote]I guess it was PTSD due to Iraq?

I find this one hard to buy because he wasn't actually seeing direct military action but was working for the diplomatic service as a hostage negotiator. That's not something that typically causes PTSD - your life isn't physically in danger, you aren't facing threats all the time, the sounds, noises and so on.

He must have been planning this, and then just chose that day to do it when he was assured of being alone for a while. So weird that he had lunch with his parents, then his father went out to walk the dogs. And in that short a period of time, he went from having lunch to killing himself. Bizarre. Very troubled guy. So sad for him, his wife and their families.

RIP

It’s not a suicide unless there’s a note. Any decent British tv detective will tell you that.

His parents knew something was up if they specifically went looking for him right after their lunch. At least that’s implied by the bare summary of facts.

Except it sounds like a plan that he was resolved to.

Richard Kay , the Maul's gossip columnist, wrote:

No one could imagine that 12 weeks short of their fifth wedding anniversary, Tom would take a family shotgun and remove himself forever from her side.

Yesterday, an inquest heard how the 45-year-old son-in-law of Prince and Princess Michael of Kent was found dead next to the gun with a catastrophic head wound in an outbuilding in the grounds of his parents’ £3million mansion in Kemble, Gloucestershire.

Details of the final hours that lead up to this devastating tragedy last Sunday were sketchy and almost workaday. He’d had lunch with his parents, Martin and Jill, at the family home, a 15-minute drive from King Charles’s rural retreat Highgrove House.

Following the lunch, Tom’s lawyer father had taken the family dogs out for a walk. When he returned to the house, where the couple have lived since 1996, his son was no longer there.

Thirty minutes or so went by and his mother went out to look for him. Soon after that, her husband, unable to raise a reply, forced open the locked door of an outbuilding.

Inside, he found their son with a fatal injury.

Just what drove this apparently happy man in the prime of life with an adoring wife to an act of desperation is now likely to be the subject of intense inquiries.

Outwardly Tom Kingston seemed to have it all. Marriage to one of the ‘nicest’ members of the Royal Family, a wide circle of friends and a thriving financial investment business. He was a man for whom a life of glittering promise from childhood was marked by easy-going cheerfulness and reassuring convention. And someone, according to acquaintances, who sought nothing more than comfortable domestic fulfilment.

Although they had no children, married life clearly agreed with him. He had navigated the goldfish bowl existence that permeates all royal marriages, however distant from the throne. And he had done so with aplomb.

The couple did not live extravagant lives or find themselves the target of the paparazzi.

In many ways their unfussy approach — home is a modest flat in fashionable Notting Hill which they had recently put on the market pending a move somewhere larger — would serve as a valuable life lesson for some of Ella’s royal cousins.

R166 I was wondering about that too. Did something happen during the lunch?

People become dissolutioned with life for reasons outside of finances or romance, and it’s typically described as mental illness, but it can seem quite logical to the person. For example, the constant desire, constant deprivation and constant conflict of existence which fuels most people’s lives can start to feel for others: draining, pointless or plain old boring. And the affected person knows that if they seek “help”, it’s just to turn them back into a profit-making, baby-making robot - because that’s all humans really know how to be at this stage in our evolution.

Whatever his reasons, RIP

[quote]Outwardly Tom Kingston seemed to have it all. Marriage to one of the ‘nicest’ members of the Royal Family

Read that and weep you DL cvnts. Those trashy Windsors have tried to soil my family’s reputation for years. We are the nicest family the Royals have.

I have no trouble believing that Gabriella is nice - maybe I'm wrong but she 'reads' that way to me. Her mother doesn't read as nice to me though. Her brother reads as a bit of a twit.

[quote]What other choice did he have? Call a suicide hotline where the best they can do is 'Well what do you expect me to do about all your miserable problems?'

I'm fairly sure that imagined response doesn't feature in the Samaritans' training. Nor does that admirable organisation in its media presence exclude calls from the upper classes about serious money troubles.

It's tragic indeed if wrong decisions led to others losing fortunes. Coming clean would have made him a pariah and impacted on the grand circles of which he was a part. Wife shamed, society's cold shoulder.

Maybe the thought of coming clean, facing the consequences, then trying to rebuild his life - good works abroad? - was too much to consider in his dejected mind. Just maybe a conversation with a trained counsellor could have given him pause. As it is, he felt backed into what some once saw as the gentleman's way out - locked door, loaded gun.

An oblique irony is that, for all my assumptions above about society's likely response, William and Kate have as part of their mission statements focused on mental health issues. RIP.

R172 I don't disagree with what you said but it's cringeworthy and funny how much you sound like Hyacinth Bucket.

'Admirable organisation' 'Media presence' 'Grand circles' 'Oblique irony'...

r172, Ignore r173.

I'm a big fan of Hyacinth Boo-Kay and you don't come across like her, at all.

You come across as having a good vocabulary and I enjoy your clear, thoughtful writing style.

R174 It isn't clear. And Hyacinth Bucket is a comedy figure about middle class people trying to sound posh. Just like some people in here.

And a happy Saturday to you too, R174! I'm flattered R173 took the time in his busy schedule to highlight my phrases. I'm off now to make use of my fine china tea set...

Weak.

R176 love it, Hyacinth. You made me have a flashback to how my sister made fun of my very middle middle class mother for putting on a 'posh' voice when she answered the phone. It doesn't come across as real but as if you're trying really, really hard to ape something you're not and it comes across like a parody. Hence how the comedy of Hyacinth Bucket works!

He had a great ass, but.

Well, there's this:

[QUOTE]In 2004, he narrowly escaped a brush with death when a a suicide-bombing claimed the lives of 22 people at the only Anglican church in Iraq.

[QUOTE]In light of his tragic death, Canon Andrew told The Telegraph: “We survived several suicide bomb attacks [...] We were regularly caught up in IED [improvised explosive device] attacks. Cars would blow up in front of us and we would just move on. We were always together and had 35 armed guards at all times,” recalled Canon White.

[QUOTE]“The thing about Tom was he was never scared. Whatever I asked him to do he would do it with a big smile on his face in the middle of a war zone.”

R180 Fair enough, but wasn't that over 15 years ago at minimum. He seems to have functioned pretty much fine in life since.

I might be misunderstanding his business, but I think it’s unlikely that he lost a tremendous amount of anyone else’s money. Sounds like they were making short terms loans in frontier economies. So a risky area, but the loans were very short term. It’s not the kind of thing friends and family are going to allocate a significant portion of their net worth to. The loans within the portfolio might have been diversified, but it’s just not where you wound sink all your money. His circle would be financially sophisticated enough to realize this. Plus, since the loans were short term, it would show up if they weren’t repaid. It’s not like they could mis-mark stuff for years.

A post above says they recently put those home on the market in anticipation of moving to something larger. But the “something larger” could have been an assumption friends made.

Most logical guess is he had financial difficulties, but I doubt he caused the ruin of anyone. No indication at all of anything shady. His parents went looking for him pretty quick. Those close to him might have know he was unwell or under some kind of tremendous pressure.

Who knows what he was bottling up. The comments from the Vicar about the hazards they faced make it sound like Kingston was closer to danger than Prince Harry ever was.

[QUOTE]Sources close to the couple have shared that the couple were not known to have any relationship or financial difficulties. One close friend told The Telegraph: “You do wonder how something like this happens. He was so fit and so mentally stable. He wasn’t a depressed individual.” Another friend added: [bold] “He’s one of those guys who can be quite enigmatic and doesn’t tell you what he is thinking.”[/bold]

Gloucestershire? Probably killed and eaten by the natives, like Michael Rockefeller

Maybe he just suffered from lifelong depression

It is not always apparent to outsiders

[quote] He must have been planning this, and then just chose that day to do it when he was assured of being alone for a while. So weird that he had lunch with his parents, then his father went out to walk the dogs. And in that short a period of time, he went from having lunch to killing himself. Bizarre.

It’s not very bizarre. He wanted access to a gun and presumably knew that his parents had at least one. Gun ownership is not the norm in the UK, so it’s entirely possible that his parents were the only people he knew who had a gun which he could easily get his hands on. He had lunch with them, probably quite relieved that his end was nearing and glad to spend that moment with them, and then he went off to do what he knew he had to do because his inner turmoil (for whatever reason, and there are many reasons which drive people to this act) had exceeded his ability to cope in any other way. And he knew enough about their home to know how to get the gun, in a room which he could lock to accomplish his goal, possibly thinking that the police would be the ones to break the door down.

There is a big misconception that people become suicidal because of some massive catastrophe, but for some people, it is a gradual process in which their mind turns against them. To the outside world, they seem happy and rational and they are extremely eager to keep their suicidal intent from their loved ones. They tie up their loose ends, say their farewells in ways which their loved ones may not even recognise as a farewell (such as turning up for a last meal), and then do what their mind has convinced them they need to do to bring an end to their pain.

R178 You are so fucking boring, surely you must have been told that many times over your dull little life. Go away and play with the traffic and leave us be.

@r172, "William and Kate have as part of their mission statements focused on mental health issues"

That's like the slaughterhouse advocating for animal rights 🙄

R188, I’m not OP, but perhaps you should lay off the coffee (or the cocaine) for awhile. You’re a touch nervy today. R178 seems to be a pleasant person, why the vitriol? Save it for someone who deserves it.

R188 "Go play in traffic" - you have very bad manners to encourage someone to kill themselves in a thread about someone who likely killed themselves ;-) It's extra ironic when people like Kingston and Gabriella has some of the best manners around which is a big part of their class.

Thank you, R185. As someone who has suffered from clinical depression and suicidal ideation I can say that everything may look alright on the surface but not necessarily ok when that surface is scratched. I know that this is DL and is what we do but some of you could do with a little empathy training - one can be handsome and rich and have no apparent worries and yet there can be no other way out.

In the "Millenials/Zoomers despise Boomers thread," R188 says, "There are some very bitter and angry people on this thread."

You wouldn't be one of them, now would you? From your self-description that follows that quote, you sound like you are very comfortable and have a nice life, what with your two homes.

Why do you work so hard to discomfort others? Do you not know how to disagree without being disagreeable or are you what you accuse others of being? Because you've been flogging a dead horse here for a while.

One wonders why.

[quote]Most logical guess is he had financial difficulties

I don't think that is the most logical guess. That's the most likely DL guess because the site seems to need everything that happens, particularly when it involves the royal family, to be as sordid as possible or based in some mercenary conspiracy, ideally both.

As the latest posts have said, the most logical guess is severe despair rooted in some kind of mental illness.

[quote]The comments from the Vicar about the hazards they faced make it sound like Kingston was closer to danger than Prince Harry ever was.

At least before 2018.

Princess Michael. This is the gal who deliberately wore a blackamoor brooch in honor of Prince Harry's engagement to Megan Markle. Who screamed at a table of diners behaving too boisterously to " go back to the colonies"

And?

Yeah, R196, AND?

R194, how is having financial difficulties sordid and how does suggesting the possibility equate to making accusations of a mercenary conspiracy?

That’s a really odd takeaway from R182, the gist of which is that he likely didn’t do anything bad or hurt anyone else financially.

“…people like Kingston and Gabriella has some of the best manners around which is a big part of their class.”

Maybe suspend your subscription to Hello magazine for a few months? Mental health awareness being paramount these days.

R200 Maybe stop telling people to 'go play in traffic' if you care about mental health awareness.

That wasn’t me—you seem to have lost focus.

Well, I don't know, R199, but if my husband killed himself because of financial difficulties it isn't so flattering or usual or to be proud of that I'd work into conversation or the obituary. There is no basis for the assertion other than he worked in finance. It's a leap. It's like saying a surgeon must have killed himself because a patient died on the table or a farmer killed himself because of that hard frost. And, yes, I know, you're about to invoke the we're gossiping defence and yes, you're right, we're gossiping. But if you want to deploy stupid or conspiratorial, some of your co-gossips may give you a resounding WTF? Google Occam's razor. You might learn something to spare your blushes in future.

he probably went over to his parents house to tell them he lost the family fortune, and that of his others clients, and then took his own life.

Sad, very sad.

I think you are revealing more about yourself and your attitude toward money that you realize, R203. If your husband killed because of financial difficulties you’d worry about people finding out? That’s insane. It’s the LEAST bad reason after terminal illness.

The guy was obviously struggling mentally, why now? Did depression suddenly hit a 45-year-old with no history of it? Maybe, but unlikely. So why did he choose to do it now? Probably because of financial difficulties. He fucking killed himself. The fact that he didn’t make his last two mortgage payments is not a black mark on his memory.

It's cute you'd call it thinking, R205, or imagine anyone would care. You sweet thing.

[quote] he probably went over to his parents house to tell them he lost the family fortune, and that of his others clients, and then took his own life

R204, I fear you are mixing up this real-life tragedy with the plot of The Gilded Age.

The crepers come out again at DL. God, there's a freakishly morbid subset here.

I didn't read the article because I don't care, but can I assume there are yenta Marys here who are doing their usual armchair hypothesizing, along the lines of "What's REALLY going on with Kate Middleton"?

[quote] a few people on staff at Eton when H&W were there

R148 what do they say about the staff member with the disability who Harry and his pals made fun of, according to his memoir?

Maybe he had further evidence of his mother-in-law’s rascist German bitchery, but he could not disclose it nor keep it secret. Too much pain…

racist*

That wasn't at Eton, r210. It was the previous school (Ludgrove?)

R209 The DL is quite literally a website created for yenta Marys.

And.

Princess Michael is a kkkunt.

Just like you.

? Strange ^

Very, R216.

Thanks r213.

She's just misunderstood...at heart she's just a bitchy DLer. Racism and all.

Look for severe childhood disturbances associated with violence.

R173 Are you uneducated?

He had more money than his wife, although she was obviously of a higher class status than he, with her royal connections. Prince and Princess Michael are not wealthy, and lived off the generosity of his cousin QEII. She allowed them use of the large apartment in Kensington Palace for many years, until pressure from the public and politicians led her to have them pay a larger rent for it that was in line with the surrounding area rents. They had to sell off their country home to do stay put, iirc.

Not sure what Kingston's parents did for a living, but the photos of their Gloucestershire country home are impressive. Upper middle class at the least.

Gabriella really resembled her paternal grandmother, Prince Marina (Duchess of Greece). A blond version.

R222 Marina was a Princess of Greece and Denmark who became Duchess of Kent on marrying the Duke of Kent.

Incest is best!

Princess Michael of Kent and Sarah, Duchess of York are my favorites of the entire royal family. Love them.

It is very sad. The family and its members are going through very tough times. It’s so stressful to experience the passing of a child,even if they are an adult so suddenly with everyone in the press discussing it

A racist and a crook, R225?

^^Matter of opinion.

She may have even unwittingly been a useful idiot for Russia. She had an affair with a much, much younger Russian oligarch who was later murdered. She'd have no state secrets to give away, but I'm sure his GRU or FSB handlers were interested in any Royal scuttlebutt he heard during pillow talk.

Princess Michael, of course, not Fergie at r229.

Apologies, meant to type (Duchess of Kent) at r222.

“Emergency services were called. Police are satisfied the death is not suspicious.

“A post-mortem has been undertaken by Dr Jones, a consultant histopathologist, and a provisional cause of death has been given as a traumatic wound to head.

“Having been satisfied with identification, initial cause of death and the brief circumstances surrounding Mr Kingston’s death, I can formally open this inquest.

R232 Why would you come here and tell us something that everyone knew days ago?

Was he a bottom? Or is that still yet to be decided?

Early reports about Thomas Kingston's death said he was killed in a car accident. Then that was scrubbed from the internet.

It was scrubbed because it wasn’t true. R235.

There may have been an ambulance call for a car accident at the same time and the incidents were mixed up.

Early reports could have just been the tabloids putting out whatever shit they'd heard without checking if it was true just to get clicks.

Wow, that girl must’ve a lesbian or terrible at picking mates. Her last long-term boyfriend leaves her and comes out as gay. Her husband offs himself rather than spend a lifetime with her.

At some point, it’s your girl.

You*

R180 doing that shit with a smile on his face? Damn, his family was lucky to make it out with only a suicide instead of the deluxe package of murder + suicide.

[quote]Her husband offs himself rather than spend a lifetime with her.

"All women become like their mothers. That is their tragedy. No man does, and that is his."

I guess his good Christian background didn't mesh with her traditional Nazi upbringing 🤔

Explain, please r243.

The explanation, r244, is that that poster is one of DL's resident mental patients.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

@r244, Sure, Gabriella's grandpop ^^^

@r244, Least we forget Gabriella's other relatives...

It's not a good idea to use The Crown as a historical source, r248, but Edward stood down as king and lived the rest of his life in exile, so he's not "evidence" of the character of the royal family - he's evidence of the royal family expelling its garbage. As it thankfully still continues to do today.

His funeral was held today at the Chapel Royal in St. James' Palace. There were about 140 attendees, including Prince William.

I feel so sad for Lady Gabriela. A life partner gone.

I feel so sad for Lady Gabriela. A life partner gone.

So sad.

[quote] So sad.

Yes. Duplicate posts are indeed sad.

R105 there’s that dry British wit they’re famous for definitely not the misery.

R173 he sounds like Hyacinth writing a press release. I got what you meant.

It’s a sin! Suicide is a sin!

I'm new to the thread. Was it drugs?

R254: So sad.

Suicide is tragic for the victim as well as the loved ones. Poor fellow. I feel for his wife and family and friends.

R187 I agree with this. I'm a very anxious person, but I keep it private. I worry about everything it's possible to worry about, but everyone tells me I seem calm and happy. I am naturally able to put on a front to the outside world; it's an unconscious thing. I think lots of us do.

So when people say "I had no idea he/she was feeling like that, I don't understand it", I just think about how easy it is to understand.

As others have said, I suspect it was work related. Maybe he wanted to get out but had no viable opportunities and the idea of just quitting was too much because you worry so much about what others might think.

It's sad as he seemed to have so much going for him. RIP.

It was painless.

So has anybody theorized that he is father to Kate Middleton's baby and that's why he shot himself?

Or maybe he's been having an affair wi th Prince William and she discovered it!

Yes, R262 - he knocked up Kate while conducting a concurrent clandestine affair with William.

Where have you been? Everybody knows that.

Something for Everyone

His father found him dead with a gunshot to the head. How very sad and awful.

But is it art?

BDF for miles on that one. A sad loss.

Abdominal surgery=abortion, right?

Or maybe some kind of prep for a geriatric, high risk, nauseous pregnancy, R268.

Mummy found he liked BBC. Unacceptable.

What’s unacceptable about liking the BBC?

But he was already on BBC 4

Is that like a gangbang?

[quote]he's evidence of the royal family expelling its garbage. As it thankfully still continues to do today.

Hi, Kate! Feeling better? Improved your Photoshop skills?

COD was traumatic head wound. Might it have been a shotgun or a rifle, the usual kind of gun found in the countryside?

Handsome guy. My guess would be a brain aneurism burst. Could be a heart attack but an affluent guy like him would know of any risk (good health care). Aneurisms are usually a surprise unless you’ve had an MRI of the brain which of course most healthy people have not.

He shot his head off R276.

R276, assuming you don't do anything involving detective work. Or reading?

A gun was found next to him but they didn't say what type.

It looks like we're not going to get any info about why he may have done it and there were no photos of the funeral either.

My guess is that he stumbled into some quick sand.