Don Henley will be grilled in court about the 16 year old prostitue who overdosed in his house.

Not sure what that 16 year old prostitute has to do with the alleged theft but he's such a raging cunt. It's great that it's coming is to light again. I'm really surprise he hasn't been me too’d

There are probably dozens of rock bands that slept with under age prostitutes and groupies during the 1960s-1980s. Jimmy Page was known in the music industry for doing that on Led Zep tours.

Led Zep was deliberately trying to out-Who the Who. The Who were known for treating groupies horribly in the 1960s and Robert Plant was determined to outdo them. A certain someone who had lots and lots of money from leasing music for movies, tv shows and commercials has spent the last 20 years scrubbing the history of the Who from the internet. I used to read every rock and roll magazine and every newspaper article about the rock scene back in the day and you cannot find those articles online that I used to read about the Who. The surviving members are happy for you to think Keith Moon was the wild one and the others were a just young guys who happened to drink a little too much.

Sixteen and already a prostitute and a hard drug user. Fucking hell.

Remember the NYC dominatrix who used to post here? She talked about all the rockers she associated with. Knocking up sexually abused teenagers runaways was their modus operandi.

The idea that some hideous dude who whacks guitar strings really well is some kind of decent or heroic individual is an idea that is finally dying, I think.

Mediocre entitled white guy finally called on his shit.

I think it's funny that Dirty Laundry is basically just him telling the world to crawl out of his ass over that scandal. Like it's no big deal that everyone is just nagging him about.

I've wondered about his escape from #metoo, as well, r1. He must have paid up a pretty, pretty sum at some point.

The only connection I can figure after reading then skimming the v. long article is that the defense claims Henley is lying about the theft (it really wasn't a "theft theft") or his awareness of it and his attempts to get the material back. It looks like the defense wants to establish a history of lying going back to the incident with the16 year old because he gave false and/or misleading statements to the police. The one that sticks out from his statements is that they never had sex, just talked all night. Uh, huh.

Henley merely got a "contributing to the delinquency of a minor" misdemeanor charge and a $2500 fine, probably because of his "poor me. I became an addict due to my environment and career pressures, but we didn't have sex and just talked about our troubles" shtick. And the 16 year old? Unless I missed it, one thing the DM failed to mention is that she was charged with pandering and prostitution. How could this be if they didn't fuck?

This is just beautiful. I love that it's getting an airing in court, not just a 40+ year old recounting.

R4 Rhodes scholar material.

Forgot to add at r8 that the defendants have awfully clever lawyers. Henley has an extensive history being of being a pig. I wonder if they've found the girls from that night and they agreed to testify. Even if paid off and they signed an NDA, they can still be subpoenaed or even agree voluntarily because NDAs do not cover criminal activity.

From the "You'll never make love in this town again."

Don Henley :

The third girl was waiting for us in front of Don Henley's home. Very matter-of-factly, the three of us strolled up to the front entrance. Pam rang the bell. As soon as Don opened the door, we knew we were "on"—our act kicked into gear.

Don gave us drinks. Within fifteen minutes we were all parading around .....

"Bend over, all three of you. Over here on the couch/' he ordered. We obeyed. We all lined up in a row and we gave great reaction performances as he swung his bat into each and every one of us, one after another, after another. A few strokes with me and he was out. Within a moment or two, Pam was up at the plate and he was giving her a long drive to left field.

After several more swings, Don was on to the third girl. From one to another to another, over and over and over. Among the three of us women, there were times when our eyes met. We exchanged looks of resolve, each silently hoping (against judgment born of experience) that the evening would not last too long. This, however, was not to be.

We were next directed into the bedroom, where he proceeded to take us on again, one after another. He was tireless. Pam and I would just as soon have been painting our nails or reading a book, but you could never tell by our reactions.

After several hours, Don finally nodded off, exhausted. As usual, we had been paid up front. So, careful not to wake him (I'd made that mistake one previous evening, and lived to regret it when I was stuck there for another two hours), Pam and I quickly dressed and made our exit. We said good-bye to "girl number three," and Pam drove me home, each about a thousand dollars richer.

Don is married now, to a beautiful young lady. Though I normally might feel a twinge of jealousy at anyone finding marital bliss, in this case she can have him.

It's about time

Don Henley :

I had met rock star Don Henley, then with the Eagles, through George Santo Pietro. After George and I broke up, I went out with Don for a while. He is one of the worst cocaine addicts I have ever seen. I liked hanging out and sometimes sitting at a piano and singing with him, but I hated how he smelled. It wasn't that he didn't bathe, it was just that he had done so many drugs and had drunk so much alcohol in his life that the smell came out through his skin.

Early one night, after we had been dating for a while, my sister dropped me off at his recording studio. When he saw me, he said, 'Liza, I have a big surprise for you/' "What?" I asked. I was pretty excited. "I'm not going to tell you. I want to show you."

We went back to his house, did some lines of coke, and he gave me a gold Cartier watch with diamonds on it. It was beautiful. I thanked him, but he quickly told me that that was not the surprise. What has gotten into him, I thought. "Let's go shopping," he said. I jumped in the car with him, anticipating that we were headed to Neiman Marcus or Saks. Unfortunately, we ended up at Circus Circus, the popular sex store.

I'm not a big believer in sex toys, dildos and the like, but Circus Circus has it all. To me, it was a big joke. But Don was like a kid in a candy store. By the time we left, he had picked out a vast array of erotica, including dildos and massage oils in several flavors.

It was not ten minutes after we arrived back at Don's home that the doorbell rang. Don ran to answer. When the door opened, five girls came in, all young, all prostitutes. I knew two of them. Don said to me, "This is your surprise'

He immediately started an orgy with these women, and I was left to watch. I began to wonder why I was there at all, until he said, "Liza, go get the bag of toys we just bought."

When I came back, I saw that one of the women was having a hard time with the whole scene. Don and the other girls were just ignoring her.

By now I was feeling that I, too, had had enough of Don's surprise. He was paying these prostitutes a thousand dollars each, and he expected me to join the party for free. I approached the girl who looked freaked out and said, "Let's get the fuck out of here." That night, she told me this was her first prostitution job. She was a drug addict and she needed the money for drugs. I told her to get out of prostitution. She'd really regret it.

I later found out that she took my advice. That was the one good thing that came out of my experience with Don Henley: I helped convince one woman not to sell her body.

Despite repeated phone calls in the following weeks for me to go out with him again, I decided Don Henley was a mind fuck I could do without

This is getting beyond the pale.

Plant never treated groupies horribly r3. That was John Bonham (when under the influence, which was often), their manager Peter Grant, and on occasion, Page. Plant indulged, but was one of the more polite and well-liked members of that entourage.

Henley's encounter with the underaged groupies was well-documented when it happened back in 1980, he had to appear in court and sentenced to a lot of community service iirc. It's weird its coming back around now, but he's so ridiculously litigious (he sues EVERYONE for anything) it's not surprising someone would glom onto it in their defense. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

Here's an extensive history of this case. It's long detailed after work reading.

I wish I had t read those prostitute stories. It kind of turned my stomach. Especially the S&M ones and the sex trafficking in Paris.

R14 Actually Page was the one from Led Zeppelin with a long track history of underage groupies.

Thanks for the summary @ R8

Here's the latest about his testimony. He was prickly as expected. It sounds like the person who should be on trial is the would-be biographer who held onto the materials and sold them to the defendants. The prosecution preemptively brought up the teenager and the OD yesterday. The defense will continue to question today. Let's see how it goes.

My favorite line from the article:

[QUOTE]Henley (accompanied by three bodyguards on his way into the courtroom)

Dude is still living in the late 70s. Who were they supposed to keep away ? Geriatric autograph seekers?

They may have been able to do this kind of shit during the more open 70's but not now. Has he drugged and smoked his mind away?

The bodyguards were probably to keep the press cameras and pesky reporters at a distance.

r20 the incident took place in 1980, so not that long past the crazy 70s. It was a public story at the time, all the major entertainment shows and magazines covered his arrest and court appearance, so its not like it was a secret.

Fuck you, Don

Hopefully this cancels out any happiness he felt at Mojo Nixon's passing

I guess we could say that the prostitute was on the *~edge of seventeen~*.

If Kevin Spacey can lose everything for NOT doing anything remotely sexual to 14YO Anthony Rapp why should Henley get off the hook?

R17 Yep, like Pamela Des Barres.

Wow, so this is a real story? I read it as a blind item here on DL years ago. So CDAN is sometimes right?

[quote] Hopefully this cancels out any happiness he felt at Mojo Nixon's passing

What makes you think that he gave a fuck?

For some it was the ultimate high

From an interesting documentary Groupies (1970) it features some footage of gay groupies as well as the infamous 'plaster casters' who made plaster impressions of rock stars 'instruments'

Not r23, but Henley is known for being touchy so it wouldn't shock if the song got under his skin at some point, even if it's a parody.

Henley once joined Mojo onstage and sang the chorus of the song, so I doubt that he was that thin-skinned. If anything, it sounds like Henley got the last laugh.

[quote] A certain someone who had lots and lots of money from leasing music for movies, tv shows and commercials has spent the last 20 years scrubbing the history of the Who from the internet.

Could you please just name this person?

Yeah, I didn't read the article. Life's too short reading about a group I didn't totally love growing up.

WHO AMONGST US!

Shit songs, total asshole

Being honored at the Kennedy Center

r26, you must mean Lori Mattix. Pamela was well of legal age when she hooked up with Page.

[quote] I'm a few years older than you ... my love.

This is an amazing performance of "Edge of Seventeen." Stevie claims that this about the deaths of her uncle and John Lennon. (She was dating Jimmy Iovine, who knew Lennon.) I believe that, but come on. This is also about fucking a 16-year-old ("he was no more ... than a baby, then").

Stevie is super loyal to Waddy Wachtel, on guitar, who was convicted of possession of child pron.

From Enty

R37 Oh yeah I read that book so long ago. I thought it was Des barres.

[quote]From Enty

More than six years ago. I don't believe that he's gone to prison.

It's Lori Maddox. We've discussed her here often over the years. Search her with the OP option off. Paige is/was a horrible abuser.

She was Jimmy Paige's 13/14 year old favorite groupie fuck for on-the-road relief in the U.S. and was consistent in her teenage life as a "guardian," parental figure, and sexual abuser. He chastised. her for smoking cigarettes, but fucked her six ways 'til Sunday as a child. BTW, Lori Maddox was described as being "mentally slow" by contemporaries.

Let that soak in. Posters here seem to believe "at least" some women might have let themselves be victimized by rampant MOFOs or may try #MeToo tactics for cash, but it was true and rampant back then.

Poor mentally ill Lori and Lord Paige at his sprawling Estate.

r42 " Search her with the OP option off"

What does that mean?

I don’t have anything to add other than deacon Frey can sit on my face anytime.

R42 Lori wasn’t mentally slow. lol Last I read about her she was a buyer for a clothing company. She gave an interview to Pam Des Barres for one of her books. She has no regrets about her relationship with Page. She looks back at the time of her life as fun and pretty amazing because she got to hang with all these artists whose music she loved.

It was wrong for Paige to be screwing a 14 year old but at the same time, Lori was a wild kid running with a fast crowd. Plus, the times were so different then. The one to feel sorry for maybe was her buddy Sable who moved to NYC with Johnny Thunders when she was 16. He beat the shit out of her for 2 years before she finally left him.

Henley's a shit but he did save Walden Pond, so I have to give him that.

R43 It means search with "OP Only" turned off, so it searches her name in replies and not just titles.

"Eagles' Don Henley ADMITS 'hugging and kissing' 16-year-old prostitute who overdosed at his home in 1980 - but insists there was 'no sexual intercourse' as he retakes stand at Hotel California trial" - the lurid headline at the DM today. Good grief, why not just admit you hired hookers but didn't know how old they were? No one "hugs and kisses" hired trade for the night. Not a 30-something years old rock star.

He did testify that he was told she was 20 or 21. It's in the Rolling Stone article linked above. But, exactly right, r48. He didn't pay $1000 (going rate per the You'll Never Make Love in This Town thread) for chaste company. That's why I think the defense had the incident admitted, to undermine his credibility. The girl got charged for pandering and prostitution for hugs and kisses? No.

Yeah R48, that makes me fucking hate him even more. You could "hug and kiss" a groupie or any woman you know, you hired the prosties to bang them, just admit it.

Damn… Good thing I already hated all these bands.

R50 He only gave the underage groupies noogies.

I hire underage hustlers, purely so I can give them hugs

Stevie Nicks sure can pick 'em.

Did the 16 year old die?

She was taken to a hospital and revived.

and what about her dear parents Brandy and Johnny Walker?

Cunt is so full of shit. He got Botox for the trial

Didn't he also threaten to sue someone back n the day for claiming he got perms?

Lying up until the very end?

[QUOTE]Under cross examination from Richman, Henley was asked about the Eagles’ reported, long-ago habit of distributing passes to “good-looking women,” in Richman’s phrase, for after-show parties. (Former Eagle Don Felder described those supposedly hedonistic bashes, called E3, in his memoir Heaven and Hell.)

[QUOTE]Asked if the story was true, Henley chortled, “No, but that’s a good idea!” The crack resulted in the loudest laughs of the trial to date.

R59: "Didn't he also threaten to sue someone back n the day for claiming he got perms?"

Honey, he has got to learn, that when you bluff, somebody is gonna call you on it.

I didn't know Don Felder wrote a memoir. I'll have to find it.

The Eagles supposedly have 70 full-time employees who help the Eagles enforce their copyrights.

Don’s memoir is a good read. He was fired in 2001 because he refused sell his part of Eagles Inc. to Don and Glen Frey and become a hired hand like Joe Walsh and Timothy B. Schmidt are. Randy Meisner and Bernie Leadon has already sold out when they left the band in 1975 and 1977. Felder was the last hurdle for Frey, Henley and Irving Azoff to own the Eagles outright.

Felder got most of what he was asking for in the lawsuit though part of the settlement terms were that he had to take a few things out of his memoir. He’s messed with his face a little too much and had veered into Kenny Rogers territory.

I don’t know if Cindy Frey (glens widow) sold glens share of eagles inc after he died. Deacon played glens parts for the band before taking a hiatus then returning for the farewell tour.

I didnt know don felder had plastic surgery. He was porobably the best looking of the eagles.

Given that Deacon has been coming and going in and out of the touring version of the band, as he has pleased - I'd say Cindy probably hung onto Glen's share and still has a say-so in what happens. A limited say, I believe, but still has power.

There were probably clauses in all of the contracts that when one of them died, either Henley or Frey would retain the main powers in determining the direction of the band. It's the Henley-Azoff show since Frey passed away.

People mag photoshops the hell out of celebrity photos, so take these photos with a huge grain of salt.

Don Felder, then 72 (2020) engaged to 48 year old woman (24 year age gap).

Anyway, tons of wrinkles around the eyes, still, even with the photoshop on the skin texture. I don't see Kenny Rogers.

He kept the lines around his eyes but the rest of this face looks unnaturally smooth for a 77 year old man. He got the bigger things done after he divorced his first wife.

Joe Walsh has to have some Keith Richards like genetics to be so healthy and unscathed at his age after all the drugs he’s consumed.

The Kennedy center honors was odd to watch with no felder, leadon or meisner. All who contributed far more than Walsh or Schmidt.

I've never heard or read of a band members being so "corporate" amongst themselves, not even the Stones with Mick pioneering in the business of selling the band and making money hand over fist.. Throw in the egos, especially Henley's, and the drugs -- it sounds like an awful atmosphere.

[QUOTE]The Eagles supposedly have 70 full-time employees who help the Eagles enforce their copyrights.

No wonder so many artists are selling their songbooks. It's a massive undertaking and a lot of musicians' heirs aren't equipped to deal with the management.

I think the stones are pretty much like the eagles. Ron wood is a contract player like joe walsh. There’s just less talking out of school about it.

Whenever stories like this come up, people love to clutch pearls about the underage sex scandals of old time rockers, but did any of these groupies claim to be taken advantage of or raped, or is that just people projecting a narrative onto it? If I was a teenager in the 1970s, I’d have loved for a rock star to be my formative sexual experience, especially a hottie like Robert Plant…All the interviews I’ve read from groupies of that era like Pamela or Lori suggest they were wild girls who had a fun time and moved on with their lives.

Also, age of consent is under 18 in most of the world, including most of the States (17).

The Eagles do suck though. Talk about boomer rock bullshit.

^ Bryan Singer, is that you?

[quote]Joe Walsh has to have some Keith Richards like genetics to be so healthy and unscathed at his age after all the drugs he’s consumed.

Love Joe but he's had major work done on himself over the years. Especially after sobering up for good years ago, and marrying Marjorie Bach. The Bach sisters have the best surgeons in the world on speed dial, I'm sure Joe was put in touch with them.

R71 Ya think?

Yup, Joe looks worked-on. Im sure his wife is a huge influence. Btw, he and ringo starr are brothers in law due to being married to sisters.

All charges dropped. Hmm. 😒 Does this mean Henley was lying and the prosecution and defense both found evidence disconfirming the allegations in the 6000 pages of "new" evidence? Why did he decide to waive attorney client privilege and release the documents now?

[QUOTE]In explaining the stunning turnabout, prosecutors agreed that defense lawyers had essentially been blindsided in recent days by getting 6,000 pages of communications involving Henley and his attorneys and associates. The material was provided to both sides only in the last few days, after Henley and his lawyers apparently made a late-in-the-game decision to waive their attorney-client privilege to keep legal discussions confidential.

[QUOTE]"These delayed disclosures revealed relevant information that the defense should have had the opportunity to explore” when Henley and other prosecution witnesses were on the stand, Assistant Manhattan District Attorney Aaron Ginandes told the court.

[QUOTE]With that, rare books dealer Glenn Horowitz, former Rock & Roll Hall of Fame curator Craig Inciardi and rock memorabilia seller Edward Kosinski were cleared of all the charges, which had included conspiracy to criminally possess stolen property.

Don Henley is Big Fat Liar could have been Mojo Nixon's comeback single.

[QUOTE]Manhattan prosecutors made the stunning decision Wednesday (March 6) to drop a criminal case against three men accused of trying to sell stolen notes linked to the Eagles’ 1976 album Hotel California, with a judge saying Don Henley had “manipulated” prosecutors.

[QUOTE]At a hearing Wednesday, a New York judge dismissed the charges after prosecutors alerted him that newly uncovered evidence cast doubt on whether Henley’s notes had been stolen in the first place — the core defense advanced by Glenn Horowitz, Craig Inciardi and Edward Kosinski...

[QUOTE]...At a hearing in open court on Wednesday, Justice Curtis Farber sharply criticized Henley and Azoff’s conduct: “It is now clear that both witnesses and their lawyers … used the privilege to obfuscate and hide information that they believed would be damaging to their position that the lyric sheets were stolen.”

[QUOTE]The judge said he was also troubled that prosecutors had been “manipulated” into bringing the charges, and questioned why they had not more thoroughly vetted the accusations and the evidence. But he praised them for dropping the case once new evidence had come to light.

Don Henley Will Violate Your Constitutional Rights could have been the B side. RIP Mojo, too bad you didn't live to see your vindication

[QUOTE]But at Wednesday’s hearing, Justice Curtis said that Henley had recently handed over more than 6,000 new pages of emails and other disclosures that contained new information about how Sanders came to own the notes. Such “jarringly late disclosures” violated Horowitz, Inciardi and Kosinski’s constitutional rights, the judge said.

“A review of these newly disclosed materials has demonstrated and highlighted Mr. Henley and Mr. Azoff’s use of the privilege to shield themselves from a thorough and complete cross-examination,” Justice Farber said at the hearing.

Any legal people want to weigh in here? What could Henley and Azoff have been lying about that led to the judge's scolding and dropping of all charges?

This has backfired badly on Henley. I suppose now the defendants can sue him. Or at least I hope so. Turnabout is fair play for sue-happy Henley, right? The DM article at the OP pretty much said that Henley went out of his way to curry favor with the prosecution. Gave them concert freebies, I think it was.

How old are these prosecutors? Only boomers and Older gen X know who he is.

Hard to say, r79. But it's like the prosecution lawyers never knew Henley is worth $200M, right? Or of his reputation as a vexatious litigant?

Inciardi’s attorney, Stacey Richman, did not rule out civil action against Henley as well. “These are three factually innocent men. The question is now … where do these men go to get their reputations back?” Richman said. “We’ll be assessing our rights in the wake of the demonstration that these men are factually innocent.”

“The complaining witness’ initial election to revoke the attorney-client privilege …  rather appears to this Court to have been designed to withhold information the complaining witness and his attorneys believed might cast doubt on his claim a theft in fact occurred.” He also said, “The Court will simply not allow a witness’ strategic manipulation of the discovery rules to interfere with defendants’ confrontation rights. The complaining witness and his attorney will not get a second bite at the apple because they now understand their initial strategy to keep material information from the defense has now backfired.”

The cunt lost!

Thanks for starting this thread, B-C. It's given me much pleasure

You’re very welcome @R83

just jumped on this thread.... can someone please summarize what has gone down? thx in advance

I wish I had been a prostitute in those days. These rocker cocks are something I regret not experiencing.

Such insight and wisdom r86. More please.

R86 Herpes is forever.

Will he also be grilled about the shitty music?