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Jack and Diane

This is a shit song with dumbass lyrics. Was John Cougar Mellencamp attempting to rip off Brice Springsteen by singing about average schmucks? There’s nothing poetic about.

by Anonymousreply 64February 20, 2024 1:32 PM

John Cougar is what happens when you order Springsteen off Wish.com.

by Anonymousreply 1February 19, 2024 8:43 PM

It's a decent song from like 40 yrs ago. WTF is your problem, OP? Is your name Rip Van Winkle and you just woke up bitchy from you 4 decade nap?

by Anonymousreply 2February 19, 2024 8:45 PM

It’s the most irritating of his major songs, I believe. But he’s a talented musician.

by Anonymousreply 3February 19, 2024 9:00 PM

Much prefer this one.

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by Anonymousreply 4February 19, 2024 9:03 PM

Who the fuck is:

[quote]Brice Springsteen

by Anonymousreply 5February 19, 2024 9:05 PM

Scarecrow is an excellent album.

by Anonymousreply 6February 19, 2024 9:09 PM

And he unleashed Teddi on the world

by Anonymousreply 7February 19, 2024 9:11 PM

My dad bought me the cassingle of his Wild Nights cover with Me’Shell Ndegeocello. Underrated tune.

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by Anonymousreply 8February 19, 2024 9:16 PM

R5 Brice Springsteen is a perfect nepo baby name.

by Anonymousreply 9February 19, 2024 9:17 PM

R1 made me cackle.

But yes, John's record company desperately wanted him to be Springsteen II.

by Anonymousreply 10February 19, 2024 9:17 PM

🎶 Suckin’ on chili-dogs outside the Tastee Freeze 🌭

by Anonymousreply 11February 19, 2024 9:17 PM

[quote] singing about average schmucks

So you hate Fast Car

by Anonymousreply 12February 19, 2024 9:18 PM

I bought his first album when he was just "John Cougar."

I liked the song "I Need a Lover Who Won't Drive me Crazy." Rest of the album was ho-hum.

by Anonymousreply 13February 19, 2024 9:21 PM

Fast Car is the saddest song ever written.

by Anonymousreply 14February 19, 2024 9:21 PM

It's a good song. I was a kid when this song came out and didn't understand the truth of this line:

[quote] Oh yeah, life goes on, long after the thrill of living is gone

by Anonymousreply 15February 19, 2024 9:24 PM

I much prefer this one, with the skanky motorcycle members.

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by Anonymousreply 16February 19, 2024 9:49 PM

Hurts So Good is my favorite karaoke song.

by Anonymousreply 17February 19, 2024 9:50 PM

Brice Springsteen is the bastard love child that resulted from Bruce’s fling with Helen Marden.

by Anonymousreply 18February 19, 2024 9:56 PM

R14 speaks the truth.

by Anonymousreply 19February 19, 2024 10:22 PM

I like be the song Cherry Bomb

by Anonymousreply 20February 19, 2024 10:26 PM

Agreed.

by Anonymousreply 21February 19, 2024 11:05 PM

It’s just a little ditty.

by Anonymousreply 22February 19, 2024 11:29 PM

I couldn't escape this song nor its singer, John 'Cougar' Mellencamp, back in 1982.

I was in school at IU in Bloomington which is considered his hometown even though he's really originally from Seymour, IN which is approx 50 miles away from there. So because of that, you'd often hear unfounded gossip among his many fans that they heard he might pop up at this or that bar in town to perform that night and they were going.

Then around that same time, I ordered a pair of Ray Ban Wayfers (That model of shades was coming back in fashion again with New Wave being in etc) which I'd seen advertised in GQ from an eyeglasses store in the mall. They made me pay the entire outstanding balance at the time before they would even order it. My receipt said the glasses would be there on such and such day. So when that day comes, I return to the mall to pick them up. The salesperson said they sold the pair I ordered after it arrived to another customer. I protested that I'd already paid for them and he said if its any consolation they were sold to John Cougar.

Even when I escaped Bloomington from time to time to go whoring up in Chicago, I couldn't escape his presence via that damn song. Chicago had a new radio format called Hot Hits @ WBBM FM which was extremely popular. The Hot Hits format meant they'd ONLY play the same top hit songs at that particular moment ad nauseam, no older songs, no songs further down on the countdown list. So you could hear a top 'hot' song up to 4 times every hour. Younger folks would blast that station from their passing cars during summer of '82. So when Jack and Diane rose to the top of the top of the charts you'd literally hear that song's annoying instrumental guitar riff open starting up continually around town. Walking on Sheridan Road in Lakeview (called New Town at that time), at the Belmont Rocks beach, literally everywhere. Arrgh!

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by Anonymousreply 23February 19, 2024 11:33 PM

I remember when Mellencamp appeared on SCTV, and there was a story line about Mellencamp turning into Ed Grimley.

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by Anonymousreply 24February 19, 2024 11:37 PM

R1 Brice Springsteen is what happens when you order Bruce Springsteen from Wish.com

by Anonymousreply 25February 19, 2024 11:42 PM

I loved it then and loved it now.

by Anonymousreply 26February 19, 2024 11:45 PM

This version makes me laugh tho

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by Anonymousreply 27February 19, 2024 11:48 PM

Jessica Simpson sampled it in that lame song of hers.

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by Anonymousreply 28February 19, 2024 11:49 PM

Paper In Fire is far superior.

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by Anonymousreply 29February 19, 2024 11:50 PM

I always get him confused with Rick Springfield.

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by Anonymousreply 30February 19, 2024 11:54 PM

My thoughts exactly r2

by Anonymousreply 31February 20, 2024 12:00 AM

[quote] I always get him confused with Rick Springfield.

Why? Springfield is an Aussie who is half a foot taller and sings pop/rock.

by Anonymousreply 32February 20, 2024 12:14 AM

Who asked for this thread?

Also, OP, trigger warning on this kind of shit, please!

by Anonymousreply 33February 20, 2024 12:17 AM

R32, I know, it's weird! Something about their lips. The look of Tiger Beat hotness. I can't put my finger on it.

by Anonymousreply 34February 20, 2024 12:36 AM

Pink Houses is my favorite Mellencamp song.

Good gravy. It’s up there with Night Moves and yes, even Born In The USA and Fast Car. they evoke a certain melancholy and longing for days past, even if those days were not as idyllic as we wanted them to have been.

They speak to the realities of living in this country. I know I’m still looking for my pink house and also wanting to change the situations I find myself in.

Jack and Diane also recall carefree days when there were no worries beyond a date night and getting your share.

😬

by Anonymousreply 35February 20, 2024 1:04 AM

R12 no Fast Car is original and well done. I find it hard to listen to because of how sad it is. I don’t want to listen to a song about a bunch of teenagers in the Midwest eating chilli dogs.

by Anonymousreply 36February 20, 2024 1:06 AM

He had some good songs, none of which have been mentioned on this thread yet. Hand to Hold Onto, Crumblin' Down, Authority Song, Serious Business, etc.

The blue-collar troubadour thing isn't the exclusive province of Brucie, ya know.

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by Anonymousreply 37February 20, 2024 1:15 AM

This version is better

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by Anonymousreply 38February 20, 2024 1:16 AM

Mellencamp is no Henry Lee Summer

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by Anonymousreply 39February 20, 2024 1:18 AM

Uh Huh! is a great album.

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by Anonymousreply 40February 20, 2024 1:32 AM

R13 ho hum is the perfect description of john meloncamp

by Anonymousreply 41February 20, 2024 2:20 AM

Jack and Diane was written after he saw Splendor in the Grass.

I kinda liked him because he was such a horrible dancer but kept doing it in his videos.

by Anonymousreply 42February 20, 2024 2:23 AM

Brice Springsteen is a fussy bottom. He wears (skinny) jeans. He loves the opera, silent film, and the arts. He knows nothing of this John Cougar Mellencamp creature you're intent on boring the rest of us with.

by Anonymousreply 43February 20, 2024 2:26 AM

R39, Henry Lee Summer's career is a sad one. He was and coming but flipped out after getting addicted to drugs (meth?) and getting arrested.Never bounced back from that.

He wasi living on the Northside of indy, Broad Ripple area i think, and my mom used to regularly see him out dining with the same woman at an MCL cafeteria she liked to frequent near Glendale.

by Anonymousreply 44February 20, 2024 2:33 AM

I admire Mellencamp’s John Bender energy, but he seems to be an asshole and not in a fun way.

by Anonymousreply 45February 20, 2024 3:40 AM

I think the song has some profound lines:

life goes on long after the thrill of living is gone

and

let the bible belt come and save my soul

by Anonymousreply 46February 20, 2024 4:17 AM

OP, I thought the same thing the first time I heard it. A poor version of Springsteen's hit and nowhere near Billy Joel's Brenda and Eddie who hit the high and the lows too young. Mellencamp has a good heart for farmers - just like Willie Nelson -- but he's not a singer.

by Anonymousreply 47February 20, 2024 4:28 AM

While I understand the concept of people who peak at age 16, thank god I’ve never known any of them. That’s fucking depressing.

by Anonymousreply 48February 20, 2024 4:28 AM

R23 Wayfers? It's way farers, if Don Henley taught us nothing else, he taught us that in one of the best songs ever. Jack and Diane is alright, it's not great but it was good for the time. ANd yeah, life goes on, long after the thrill of living is gone is so true.

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by Anonymousreply 49February 20, 2024 4:49 AM

R49 pls don't fucking mention Don Cunt Henley ever again in a thread where I am not expecting it.

by Anonymousreply 50February 20, 2024 5:06 AM

R50 How about this?

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by Anonymousreply 51February 20, 2024 5:29 AM

Hold onto 16 as long as you can...changes come around real soon, make us women and men.

by Anonymousreply 52February 20, 2024 5:34 AM

Changes come around real soon, make us women and men

is another fantastic line, R46.

Oh, R52, beat me to it.

by Anonymousreply 53February 20, 2024 5:36 AM

One of my favorite Rifftrax lines when two guys stumble upon a derelict gas station- "This is where Jack and Diane suck on chili dogs when the Tastee Freeze is closed."

by Anonymousreply 54February 20, 2024 5:41 AM

I love Rifftrax and MST3K. But I digress.

by Anonymousreply 55February 20, 2024 5:43 AM

Speaking of songs that make you cry, I can't believe no one has mentioned Jackie Brown yet. It's right there up there with Fast Car and Johnny Cash's version of NiN's Hurt. Back in '88 when I was in grad school, there were still tar paper shacks that were family dwellings on the far west side of town.

by Anonymousreply 56February 20, 2024 9:27 AM

Apparently, Jack and Diane was originally a song about an interracial couple.

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by Anonymousreply 57February 20, 2024 11:25 AM

“Suckin on a chili dog” was the first time ass-to-mouth was covered in a Top 40 song, so you have to give him some credit for breaking ground.

by Anonymousreply 58February 20, 2024 11:59 AM

One of his finest.

A lot of suicides in Australia are farmers who've lost or who are facing losing their farms.

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by Anonymousreply 59February 20, 2024 12:15 PM

One fucking typo and the Aspies are all over it like flies on shit

by Anonymousreply 60February 20, 2024 12:21 PM

Here’s a snappy number from the Cougar.

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by Anonymousreply 61February 20, 2024 12:22 PM

[quote] Brice Springsteen is a perfect nepo baby name.

Fuck you, R9!

by Anonymousreply 62February 20, 2024 12:23 PM

Overrated!

by Anonymousreply 63February 20, 2024 1:20 PM

Yeah, R59, that's a good one. So many people I grew up with lost their farms.

I love that he wears his FFA jacket in the video.

by Anonymousreply 64February 20, 2024 1:32 PM
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