*New York 3rd Congressional District Special Election Results*

Thank you.

I'm writing in Kitara Ravache.

Mazi just as crazy,Repig-tool, santos trial in Sept,too long to wait but hope he gets fried, TRUMPFAGGOT!

I predict the winner will have a Z in their name.

I predict a registered Democrat will win.

[quote]I predict the winner will have a Z in their name.

LIES!

I don't understand this: Mazi is a Democrat but she's running on the Republican Party line? So she's a stooge of the Republicans and likely on their payroll to screw Democrats in the House?

Was there much snow there today? Enough that it could affect the turnout?

Isn’t there another thread on this? What happened to it? I saw it yesterday.

So, the polls show a slight lead by the Democrat, eh? My prediction is that Tom will win handily, thus demonstrating how useless these polls have been over the last few years.

Tom’s not Jewish and the whole Hamas-Israel hysteria hadn’t happened when he represented the district. Also, the district was redrawn by a conservative judge appointed by Andrew Cuomo. Many, many people in the district will vote for Philip because she’s Jewish.

R9, yes, we had an earlier thread about Suozzi, but I created this new thread earlier today for tonight's Election Results.

I agree with the posters above that the Democrats have reason to be cautiously optimistic tonight:

1) Suozzi has had a small lead in the polls that have been conducted over the past month

2) Early voting numbers by registered Democrats are so far about 10,000 ahead of the Republicans.

To answer R8's question, the snow was bad earlier today, but the weather improved later in the day. Still, it may have depressed turnout for the Republicans who were counting on a big E-Day vote today.

NY-03 is only 11% Jewish. It’s my area of NY-04 that is the Jewish part of Long Island.

Meant to add a link.

It would be awful if the Repub won. Horrible sign for Biden and Dems in November.

Will it be a horrible sign for Trump if she loses?

I think people should feel obligated to vote no matter what the weather is.

[quote] I think people should feel obligated

R17, you're naive, dear.

r16 - Bravo, ElderLez.

9pm seems really late to have polls open. Who votes that late at night?

Polls are always open 6 AM to 9 PM in NY. I assume because long hours and long commutes are common.

Poll troll in da house!

Aren't people all snowed in ?

R15, why? It's a Republican majority district.

The local news is treating this as a horse race, George Santos is not even in their discussion.

They are not asking who Phillip is. They're not interested.

It stopped snowing in NYC around noon or 1, and the sun came out a little, so no, R23.

Pilip won't even answer basic questions about herself

Santos 2.0

There's a special election also going on in PA, for a State House seat. It's a blue seat but Dems are overperforming

R28 More like sweeping the floor.

CNN results link:

NBC results link:

It’s not over til the fat lady stings!

Suozzi has a 2-1 lead in the early numbers coming through now. That's as expected.

Suozzi 65.1%

Pilip 34.9%

6% of the vote now in.

This is the Queens vote coming in.

I've seen enough. I'm calling bedtime.

Ugh. AOL is on CNN.

^Haha AOC.

Won't he only be elected for a year?

And the winner is...."Anthony Devolder" as a write-in

[quote]Will it be a horrible sign for Trump if she loses?

Don't be silly, ElderLez! If a Republican wins, it's a dire sign for Biden. If a Democrat wins, it bears no relation to the chances of the 81-year-old Biden whom everyone is so concerned about.

Yes, until Jan. '25

13% of the vote now in

Suozzi (61.8%)

Pilip (38.2% )

Both candidates said they will run for a full term in November. So whoever wins will face off with the same opponent nine months from now.

I hope Steve Kornacki has found a hot daddy to poke his pooper.

Thank you for sharing, r45.

His ass ain't much, R45. They showed a shot of him from behind.

What happened to his tan khakis ? Why is he wearing gray these days ?

R45, isn't Kornacki a Repub?

[quote]This is the Queens vote coming in.

Gays have their own precinct?

Just thought I would derail the thread for a bit with Kornacki talk R46! You're welcome.

I wrote in "George Santos" on my ballot

I have a crush on Harry Enten. He's the one I fantasize about. 🔥

The gays all love Harry Enten, and were heartbroken when he turned out to be straight despite his fey demeanor.

Big vote batch Update:

51% now in

Suozzi (58.7%)

Pilip (41.3%)

Looking like a call for Suozzi is coming soon.

Is this going to be as tight as predicted or will it be a blow out for Suozzi?

District 3 - the early votes always favor democrats. It’s when they get around to counting Election Day votes that the race tightens up.

**Decision Desk HQ calls the race for SUOZZI.**

This will be tight.

Who is reporting 51% in ? MSNBC only has 14% in right now.

[quote]Is this going to be as tight as predicted or will it be a blow out for Suozzi?

Not as tight as my pussy!

R61, both CNN and MSNBC have it at 51%.

That's why it's enough for Decision Desk to call it for Suozzi after that big vote batch that just came in.

I knew my handsome daddy would win.

USA Today has also called it for Suozzi.

Bye, Pilip!

WaPo calls it for Suazzi.

I heard a reporter say earlier today that this race would be so close that “we may not know who won tonight, or tomorrow, or even the next day.”

That didn’t age well.

I was listening in my car to the NYT Daily podcast, which was focused on how close this race was. I finished it as I got home at 9:55. The NYT just called it for Suozzi, less than 20 minutes later.

Whew!

NYT and also AP.

I'm calling it now...

DEMS IN DISARRAY!!!

How sad. Another Republican loss. :(

YAY!

Another election where Democrats outperform the polls. Same as it has been since Trump.

Democrats win.. Fuck the polls.

CNN, NYT, Steve Kornackie; Why Suozzi’s blowout win is bad news for Biden!

Pilip is conceding the race now.

On the brighter side of things, Mazi now has time to go back and volunteer with the IDF again.

Clearly Suozzi's victory bodes well for Trump!

Miss Scott Presler must be beside herself this evening!

NBC has now called the race for Suozzi.

CNN calls the race for Suozzi.

Get ready for the blue 🌊 wave

Looks like he's gonna trounce her.

Donald Trump claims this election was rigged.

He might get sworn in tomorrow?? Special elections are fun!

[quote]Donald Trump claims this election was rigged.

Wow, who saw that coming?

Has Mazi conceded yet?

^Yes.

Oh, well, this has aged rather well.

[quote] So, the polls show a slight lead by the Democrat, eh? My prediction is that Tom will win handily, thus demonstrating how useless these polls have been over the last few years.

💅

Any news on the Pennsylvania state house race?

Sahil Kapur is reporting for MSNBC - he's scary looking.

Yeah, it looks like Suozzi is going to overperform what the polls were predicting. Most of them predicted that he had a 4-point lead. We'll see what the final results are.

69% of the vote now in:

Suozzi (55.6%)

Pilip (44.4%).

Hoping for a Democratic sweep this November.

"Any news on the Pennsylvania state house race?"

Dems won

That protestor who got up in his face ended up falling ass over tit.

That was so funny and deserved. Fucking soy boy.

Or lesbian

The Pennsylvania race wasn't even close the Democrat is leading with 73% of the vote with 67% of the vote in.

R97 That was soooo funny !

More of a blowout than I expected. He did a good job of fighting back on the immigration issue. Dems have to take issues the voters care about seriously. Good model for future elections.

R100, the voters appear to be rejecting Republican politicians and policies this go-around. Wonder why?

Another overperformance by the Democrat. I'm sure Andrea Mitchell will be saying how this is a predictor of a Biden loss in November.

Suozzi has a cute lisp.

The protester is probably in the ER right now - that was quite a fall.

A Democrat also won a NY legislative race. 78-22 vote.

Suozzi has a great personality - he comes across very genuine and empathetic.

R107, these aren't just wins. They're landslides.

Now would be a good time for Cro-Marge or Rapey Gaetz to call a vote to oust Mike Johnson as Speaker.

Speaker Jeffries could happen....

CNN: I talked to voters today who voted for Donald Trump previously and now voted Democratic because they think Republicans can’t govern

it's too bad the Presidential elections couldn't be a "special elections" - on some random Tuesday night in February. Democrats seem like they are always over-performing polls in the special elections.

R108 Suozzi is kind of a jerk actually. But really glad he won, and won so big.

Republicans refusing to pass bills dealing with immigration, Ukraine and Israel will bite them in the butt. They spend their energy on stunts to win Republican primaries and then won’t be able to win general elections.

Good news. Congrats to the winner and the voters who said ENOUGH to the clowns and grifters.

[quote] I have a crush on Harry Enten.

Yay. I don’t live in the district but close enough that the ads have been non-stop.

Pilip can take her pro-life ass and go home.

I was so shocked the first time I heard Harry Enten talk about his girlfriend, I was sure he was gay.

I like Harry Enten because 1) I've learned a lot about polling analysis from him, and 2) because he's cute and I'd like to explore his hairy body. 😉

83% of the vote now in

Suozzi (54.2%)

Pilip (45.8%)

Could be Enten is gay and his 'girlfriend' is his beard.

Dems won this seat back and that awful slag Kari Lake got booed by Arizona Republicans.

I guess the Elise Stefanik endorsement didn't work out for her

87% of the vote now in.

Suozzi (54.2%)

Pilip (45.8%)

Wonder who George Santos voted for ?

If you take him at his word, R124, Santos said he wouldn’t be voting, R124.

I'm fine everyone, just practicing for the World Volleyball Championship!

Philps is the Kitara Rivache of the George Santos.

Who is she?

Waiting for The NY Times to report how Democrats overperforming in yet another election is terrible for Biden.

You know the media is pissed at these election results because they can't spend weeks predicting the end of Biden and the Democrats in November.

Don't worry, R129, they will continue.

It was never tight R60. The polls closed at 9 and it was called by 9:45 for Suozzi. He’s going to win by ten points. That’s not even remotely tight, in fact it’s a landslide.

But of course that’s “tight” for you Trumpy chicken littles. lol.

Trump savages Mazi, saying she didn't run on loving him and his name.

In a low-key rebuke to 81 year old Biden, Democrats in New York have elected a man in his early sixties to replace the seat held by America’s sweetheart, George Santos.

The president was unavailable for comment, presumably napping or sundowning or being changed.

There were 3 credible polls done for this district over the past month or so. They all showed Suozzi winning by only 4 points. However, he's likely to win tonight by twice that margin. With nearly 90% of the vote in, he's leading by over 8 points.

HAHAHAHA!!!

Republicans tried to make this about the border.

This poll had Suozzi only winning by one point....

Andrea Mitchell is probably changing her husband's diaper right now, cursing her lot in life. How can she spin this tomorrow to be a bad result for Joe Biden???

Republicans trying to win by misrepresenting the polls or by cheating.

The idea that Andrea Mitchell is somehow secretly pro-Trump is laughable.

^ No, but she's always pissing on Biden and the Democrats. I guess it's the "we can't appear to be biased towards Democrats, so we'll go extra hard on them" mentality. To the point of ridiculousness.

You can't compare a shoplifter to a serial killer. They may both technically be criminals, but both are not the same.

Andrea Mitchell is establishment Republican. They see Trump as a useful idiot at most. They want the old blueblood elite back in charge of America.

R83, hopefully more like a blue tsunami.

Andrea Mitchell is most certainly not a Republican, establishment or otherwise. Sheesh.

🙄

The economy is roaring, covid is defeated, the world is at relative peace. President Biden will win this thing. The economy and abortion will be how we, Democrats, ride our Blue Wave to victory come November. That weirdo Trump is no longer a novice. The fat fuck has a record. Wanna talk about the Border? Then, why didn't Trump close it if it's so bad! Covid!? Trump let it spread. The economy? 5 million jobs were lost on his watch.

Andrea Mitchell's husband, nursing home candidate Alan Greenspan, is an Ayn Rand libertarian devotee. He would host salons where they'd sit around and read her stupid books.

While I, too, think Biden will win, R146, it’s pretty nonsensical to say that the world is at relative peace.

No doubt that Andrea’s husband is a throwback establishment Republican, but her politics have been not so secretly more liberal.

Dana Bash says several voters told her that they voted for Suozzi because Republicans tanked the bipartisan border security deal

[quote]According to the list of registered voters from the District of Columbia Board of Elections, Andrea Mitchell, as of 2016, is a registered Democrat.

It doesn’t matter what you’re registered as. KY has more registered Rs than Ds yet vote overwhelmingly R.

Democrats have outperformed the polls for over 7 years. Voters, despite overwhelmingly favorable media coverage for Republicans, see through enough of their BS and vote Democrat.

Keep ignoring the trend. All signs point to Democrats holding the presidency, the Senate, and regaining the House in a big way.

We’ve all seen the Republicans for the incompetent morons they are.

Polls are weapon's-grade bullshit.

Republicans couldn't run a popsicle stand.

Biden will be comfortably re-elected in November.

^^^more registered Ds than Rs that should say

R153 Correct, very comfortably.

I know it's a pipe dream, but it would be delicious if that evil cunt Elsie Stefanik got kicked to the curb in November.

I am truly honored and very surprised to be reelected by a landslide in my former district!! I had no idea that I would be a surprise write in candidate, I promise to serve my constituency with as much honesty and integrity as I have shown in the past to the best of my abilities, thank you thank you thank you!

Ha! Suck it, thugs!

R137, yeah, that was a suspect poll. I saw it yesterday and decided to do a little research on "JL Partners". They are a British Conservative polling company who poll for The Daily Mail and who used to work for former Conservative PM Theresa May. Not sure why they inserted themselves into a New York Special Election, unless it was at the behest of the New York Post.

CNN...

Better remember Suozzi is "unique"

Dems see "warning sign" in this special election

Even when we win they spin their ass in circles to make it seem we lost.

It was a weird race in a weird district, but the swing isn’t weird or an outlier. As Chris Christie would say Republicans are going to get smoked in November.

To be fair to the legitimate polls which showed Suozzi +4, but had Pilip within the margin of error of winning, Suozzi +8 was also within the margin of error.

And finally Pilip gave a gracious, early concession speech. It’s a shame she’s drifted over to the Republican Party.

Republicans are desperately luring (buying) minority candidates to run.

Please, R138, we have a member of Georgetown U. Objectivist Society do that!

Pilip giving an early concession speech was such a relief. That’s what used to be the norm in pre Trump America.

I know it's probably an unpopular opinion here, but I think Hochul's unpopularity was a 2022 drag for Dem candidates helping Santos.

Suck my asshole R160. CNN is Fox 2.0.

Are you in any physical danger R148? Have you EVER been in any physical danger from forces outside of the US? No, you haven’t. The world is at relative peace in the context of history. Ukraine and Israel do not affect you in any real way and never will. None of the conflicts in the Middle East will ever touch you.

What killed the Dems was the crime issue. They needed to address it forcefully just like Suozzi did with immigration. You have to be where the people are. Lecturing people about how crime isn’t that bad historically or they’re racists if anti immigrant is NOT the way to win elections. It’s also OK to acknowledge that Biden is old and doddering. Just make the point he’s still better than Trump.

No the world is not at relative peace. And even during W2 people in the US were safe. The world is scary and that’s why Trump would be a disaster

Killed the NY Dems in 22…

Yes, it is safe here and has always been. You don’t know what danger is. You don’t live in a third world country. Your fantasizing about WW3 notwithstanding.

The vote in the Nassau portion of D-3 was in line with the three reliable polls. Suozzi overperformed in the Queens portion of the district.

R172, the NYT results are showing (with 93% of the vote counted) 53% to 47%—that spread is 50% higher than the polls, which had Suozzi winning by 4%. Within the margin of error, yes, but at the higher end of the predictions. The Queens portion of the district is much smaller than the Nassau portion and can't account for all of Suozzi's outperformance of the polls.

Yes, it can. And it did. Basic math.

It was a nice relief to see the loser give her concession speech, and not try to call 'foul' and say the election was somehow 'stolen'.

[quote] 2) Early voting numbers by registered Democrats are so far about 10,000 ahead of the Republicans. To answer [R8]'s question, the snow was bad earlier today, but the weather improved later in the day. Still, it may have depressed turnout for the Republicans who were counting on a big E-Day vote today.

Some people in the GOP have expressed that they get it, that Republicans need to embrace early voting. However, Election Day voting is a habit that the RNC is going to find hard to break with its voters. They could learn another lesson about the peril of waiting until Election Day from this election, but they may just chalk up the loss to Santos fatigue and it being a Democratic district. It’s not just weather that keeps people from voting on a specific day. Democrats are always going to have a boost from their early voting strategy.

A combination of a very inflexible bail reform bill plus a lot of scare mongering about the city that resonated with suburban commuters who had switched to WFH and had not returned to the office but had traumatic memories of the city in the 80s influenced the ‘22 vote.

More people are back in the city now and bail reform is being reformed. New Yorkers by and large are pro-immigration, just not the Republican intentional mess.

R174, "basic math" says that even if you leave aside the Queens portion of the district, Suozzi's win is higher than the polls predicted. Your "in line with" at R172 fudges that. He overperformed in the Nassau portion, too.

No —you yourself said as to that portion it was within the margin of error. In any case, it’s not just “polling” but based on historic voting patterns.

He’s ahead by 7% overall. He’s ahead by 6% in Nassau. He’s ahead by 24% in Queens. There’s a word political scientists and commentators use to describe such a discrepancy. It’s on the tip of my tongue…it will come to me..oh yes: overperform.

R167, re-read R160 again.

Your anger and dirty asshole are misplaced.

He went from margin of error polling for months, to swinging back the district by nearly 8 percent.

It has happened again.

Trump/MAGA is poison. To use a dark analogy: Rs are in their last hour at Jonestown. They've downed the Kool-Aid and are starting to fall over.

Anyone looked at Great Neck numbers for identity voting Dem fall-off as mentioned?

R181 Exactly. With some exceptions, Dems have out-performed polls in the elections since 2018. Yes the Pollers will say "the last polls showed that the end results were predicted, "within the margin of error".... yep, and the "margin" has tracked for Dems in so many of these elections. Dems are more motivated and the early voting and GOTV structures of the Dem party have produced.

Biden needs to address the age issue; if he does he'll be re-elected and the Dems will take back the House. Senate is harder.

[quote] Anyone looked at Great Neck numbers for identity voting Dem fall-off as mentioned?

That’s where Kris Kringle lives.

Souzzi won by a narrow but incontestable margin: 54 percent to 46 percent with 93 percent of the expected vote reported - MSN

Since when is 12 points a “narrow” lead? Its a fucking blowout in today”s political climate,

The media is making Trump’s narrative for him. “It’s rigged” because faulty media polls keep lying. We’re being seriously gaslit by billionaire media owners.

It's 8 points, R185, but yes, the media outlets are always looking for "bad news for Dems" even when their own evidence shows the opposite.

[quote] Pilip thought widespread unhappiness with rising crime and with the migrant crisis in the urban-suburban New York district (encompassing parts of Queens and Nassau County) would be her ace in the hole

Crime

Is

Decreasing

Fucking

Media

Assholes

You know why suburbanites believe this “crime is on the rise” nonsense? Ring camera videos, delivery drivers, workmen. Every single day the Next Door app has a video of someone “suspicious.” Yes, sometimes it’s actual thieves in the night who try opening car doors. Either they don’t open the door because it’s locked or they open the door and rummage around but don’t steal the car.

Last week a woman posted a very clear photo of a black man on her property who looked in her windows …in daylight. Turns out the guy was a house painter. There are several streets by the same/similar name in her area and the guy was looking in windows to see if his crew was inside. Several times I’ve seen videos of black delivery drivers as “suspicious men in vehicles.”

Another poster showed a cardboard six pack holder with 2 empty beer bottles in it that was put in a box on his property. The guy goes on an absolute tirade about immigrants, though it was probably teenagers. Another guy joins him in this tirade. Neither one could spell, use proper grammar or punctuation. It was pretty funny to see these locals twisting themselves into a fury about foreigners when they couldn’t write a proper sentence in English.

Another thing is the theft of catalytic converters. Yes there are thieves stealing catalytic converters out of driveways at night. There are 8 million people in this area. One or two guys stealing catalytic converters in different neighborhoods every night isn’t a crime wave, We had 2 bikes stolen from my front yard in 1970s - one was on the front porch in braid daylight while I was steps from the front door. That was pretty bold. But nobody freaked out.

Crime is down but doorbell cameras are making people think the night is crawling with hooded murderers.

R179, the Siena poll (MOE 4.2%) had Suozzi at 46% in the Nassau portion of the district. He's currently at 53% there. So he is indeed outperforming that poll in Nassau (as well as in the Queens portion). I'm not finding crosstabs for the February Emerson poll.

Your analysis of that poll appears erroneous — that 46% you quote comes out of a total of 92% not 100%. The poll had 8% undecided/other overall. Clearly there were no undecided in the actual election. You can’t compare actual %s but only the relative %s. He hit the number in Nassau and overperformed in Queens. A simple Google search of ‘where did Suozzi overperform’ might help.

R188 you might be right and I’m down in NY-04, but I don’t get the sense that Lawn Guylanders think crime is out of control on Lawn Guyland. It’s more about fear of becoming like NYC, based on what the Post is saying NYC is like.

Nassau County will look back on my tenure in office as a golden era. I worked day and night in Congress to ensure they had food on their plates and assault rifles on their nightstands. Those ungrateful bitches never had it so good!!

We haven't been able to trust polls since Hillary ran. Some of the polls today are owned by the Repubs who lie. None of it can be trusted.

Everyone lies now, including the media. So we have to just do what we can and ignore the polls.

Part of the problem is that the media has been treating all polls as equally valid and giving credence to polls that are slanted or biased. Their reporting on polls becomes part of the narrative and can give rise to public perceptions. Yes, Joe is 81 years old. But this notion that he is “too old” has been fed by the constant media barrage talking about how old he is. So it is no surprise when the polls reflect this.

Sure, Biden hasn’t done himself any favors with his verbal mixups and the occasional slip and fall. But tRump is 77 years and has himself made hundreds of missteps and misstatements. For Joe, those errors are “serious concerns about his age.” For Cheatolini, they’re shrugged off as “tRump being tRump.” Two candidates. Two very different standards. Like it’s 2016 all over again.

Clinton had soft support included in her numbers that didn't come through for her in the end, rather than being "wrong" as such.

You’re moving the goalposts, R168. The initial claim wasn’t about one’s personal safety, as if this was some debate about crime, but about the world being at “relative peace.” We’re about to enter the third year of the first ground war in Europe in 80 years & then we have the war in Gaza. Pretty head scratching to make the case, then, that the world is at “relative peace.”

R194 I think we'd do well to stop "refuting" the polls that say voters are concerned about Biden's age. Since 2019 polls have documented concern. That's one reason why Biden kinda-sorta suggested he'd be a "one term President".... in the past year or so pretty much any poll has 80% suggesting Americans are concerned about his age. This not an outlier or "within the margin of error" stuff.

So, he's old. You watch him walk (arthritis) and hear him talk (fragile voice, halting, misspeaking) and even supporters can't deny it. Does this mean he shouldn't be president? Fuck no. Can he still do the job? Fuck yes. Is he better choice for the country than the other guy? Duh.

He just needs to get out there, acknowledge what people are seeing and saying, not be defensive, but show how he is capable of doing the job.

Cunt!

It's like he's lost his sh it ... or something?

[quote][R194] I think we'd do well to stop "refuting" the polls that say voters are concerned about Biden's age

Nobody is refuting those polls, r198. There should be some concern for *anybody* that age. There's a vast difference between concern and right wing trolling.

The media is so shallow and focused on the way Biden says something. Yes, he is fucking old--we get it. But they completely gloss over the content of what he is saying. If they did listen, they'd see that he's sharp as a tack and totally coherent.

Likewise they do the same with Trump--focusing on his attitude and ranting, but they don't listen to the content of what he's saying. He makes no sense, like saying windmills give people cancer or wishing he was taking a day off on Saturday afternoon (while he's speaking on a Friday evening). And Trump is totally hopped up on Adderall or cocaine--SNIFF!!!

"Two candidates. Two very different standards."

You said a mouthful.

If any Democrat, especially a black one like Obama, had pulled their own version of 01/06/21, they and their entire families would have been tried, convicted, killed and buried in a mass, unmarked grave in the middle of nowhere by the Republicans, and that would have happened before Easter of 2021.

You're damn right there are two very different standards at work here.

[quote]I think we'd do well to stop "refuting" the polls that say voters are concerned about Biden's age. Since 2019 polls have documented concern.

I remember it being a rallying cry around here until the momentum swung behind him during the primaries.

[quote]So, he's old. You watch him walk (arthritis) and hear him talk (fragile voice, halting, misspeaking) and even supporters can't deny it. Does this mean he shouldn't be president? Fuck no. Can he still do the job? Fuck yes. Is he better choice for the country than the other guy? Duh.

Maybe he should admit that. Maybe he should give that acknowledgement and argument and take the temperature down. Acknowledge what everybody sees. You can turn every talking point on the age issue against Trump. So long as he doesn't do that shouting thing he does. He sounds like testy grandpa who doesn't want to give up the keys. This is an issue. They need a strategy.

[quote]Nobody is refuting those polls, [R198]. There should be some concern for *anybody* that age. There's a vast difference between concern and right wing trolling.

Could you define the vast difference because it reads on. here like any time someone raises the age issue they're accused of right wing trolling. So please help me discern.

I'm voting for Kitara Ravache. Accept no substitutes!

R201 My point is, we need to stop blaming "the media" and "polls".... Americans see what's in front of their eyes. Biden will need to perform in the ways R203 suggest. Talk about it, acknowledge it, don't be the angry defensive old man that denies it and blames "the media"... He's old. There are signs of his age. Accept it and talk about the future, about what he wants to do, in comparison to what would happen if his opponent were elected.

R206 I'm just constantly disappointed over the media because they are smart enough to know better. These are in many cases Ivy League educated people, and they think their role is to just sit there and be stenographers and transcribe whatever is being said with no critical thinking. If they want to just be shallow and surface, maybe they should go get jobs at Entertainment Tonight.

And the access journalism thing--so what if they challenge Ted Cruz or Steve Scalise on their lies and they never come back for an interview. At some point you have to do your job.

His margin of victory over the poll prediction probably had a lot to do with the horrendous performance she exhibited at the debate. anyone with half a brain could see she was an imbecile, but that's who the Repubs are running these days.

[quote]don't be the angry defensive old man that denies it and blames "the media".

Where has he been that, r206?

What does it say about Republicans that the only candidates they can come up with are frauds and scammers like Mazi and Kitara?

Mazi is actually a registered Democrat who votes Republican and ran as a Republican. They got it backwards: in California the Republicans run stealth candidates as Democrats who then leach votes away from the real Democrats.

[quote] R194 I think we'd do well to stop "refuting" the polls that say voters are concerned about Biden's age. Since 2019 polls have documented concern.

I can assure you that I was not attempting to “refute” the polls about Biden’s age, but there is a reason why people are hyper-focused on it and it’s not just because he’s old, which we all know. It’s because that’s all the media seems to talk about — and I’m not referring to Faux News. The NY Times has been leading the way mentioning his age multiple times a day. It’s a valid concern, yes absolutely, but it can’t be the sole focus of Biden coverage. It just can’t.

The man has an extremely impressive list of accomplishments that never seem to be raised. Everything is about the fact that the guy is old, somewhat frail, and misspeaks from time to time. And much of that was painfully obvious from that hastily called press conference last Thursday night, which seemed like it was a big mistake. But it is equally clear that the media obsession is driving the narrative. It’s not his age alone, but the fact that it is the focus of so much media attention.

So, yes, we can “blame” them for the distorted coverage and try to get them to focus on other critical aspects of his governance. So, yes, acknowledge the age issue and press forward about the differences between Biden and his extremely unworthy opponent.

The media wants this election close because it makes them money. They’ll down Biden, one of the most successful presidents of all time, and makes voters concerned with their relentless narrative shaping.

Biden will win handily.

The NY03 election is a bad sign for Republicans. The border is not going to be an issue they can run on now that they spectacularly fucked it up. They are incompetent beyond belief. With Trump saying Russia can do whatever they want to EU, that will absolutely move Indies and soft Rs to Democrats in larger numbers than we can accurately predict. This will lead to Democrats keeping the presidency, Senate, and regaining the House by a large margin.

Trump blamed the trailblazing Ethiopian Israeli immigrant’s loss on her failure to come out strongly enough in favor of him during the campaign against Democrat Tom Suozzi.

“This very foolish woman, Mazi Melesa Pilip, …didn’t endorse me and tried to ‘straddle the fence,’ when she would have easily WON,” Trump wrote on his social media site.

The former president asserted that his MAGA supporters did not turn out to vote because he did not endorse Pilip in the race.

“MAGA, which is most of the Republican Party, stayed home. And it always will, unless it is treated with the respect it deserves,” Trump added. “I stayed out of the race (because) I want to be loved!”

The only thing I sort of like about her is that she didn't publicly blow Fuckface von Clownstick during the campaign.

Name one, 211

[quote]“MAGA, which is most of the Republican Party, stayed home. And it always will, unless it is treated with the respect it deserves,”

Sorry, Donald, if they stay home the MAGAts will get all the respect they deserve for losing the Republicans election after election.

Stay home, losers!

What it says, R210, is that reasonable republicans know they have no place in the Trump party.

We once had a president who was old, senile and mentally incapacitated WHILE IN OFFICE. Yet he's been held up as a paragon of presidential perfection for the past 40 years. Joe Biden is nowhere close to that doddering fool.

Pukes are meddling in the Democratic party and it's insult to injury after decades of their grift.

Kitty Kelley knows how to gossip. She gossips so well, I was shocked to find out everything she spoke about during this interview has been verified as truthful much later.

Reagan testified with some nonsense on the Iran Contra scandal that he didn't remember what he was doing but in his heart he knew it was the right thing to do. He was the last cult-like figure in the Republican Party before Dump. Dump is 10 million times worse with speaking nonsensical word salad than Reagan ever was.

That is what I mean. Iran Contra was fourth years ago, they have been holding this country hostage for decades with their grift.

Speaking of hostages. It is now known hostages were released after the inauguration to make RR look good.

R213 Your post is one of the most sensible on this thread.

Republicans are counting on agribusiness and oil companies controlled by their people to strangle the economy. THat's not how it works.

Tom Suozzi got me hot and wet during his acceptance speech with that New York accent. He’s a handsome devil of a daddy and he’s on the side of the good guys. What’s not to love, and who wouldn’t want to trade places with his wife in bed tonight?

Btw, did anyone here ever hear Mazi Pilip speak? Jesus Christ, that accent! One of the most annnoyimg accents on earth. Even more annoying than a typical Lawn Guyland accent.

That’s why the GQP didn’t want her to campaign. She alienated more voters than she brought in.