Harry Windsor flies out of London after quick visit with King Charles

William to Harry: GTFO.

Perhaps a dumb question, but Charles is King. Can't he decide where Harry can stay?

Well he couldn’t very well go to Sandringham with Chuck and Camilla, after he called her evil. So why stick around a hotel?

R2. No wants Harry staying at a royal residence unless he gives ample notice that he's coming. There will be no spur-of-the-moment visits by Harry or Markle catching royal family members or royal staff off-guard. The family wants to know what Harry is doing if he stays at a royal residence. The royal family and couriers who run the firm, don't want Harry bringing a Netflix film crew in to a royal residence, taking photos or in any way trying to monetize his stay at a royal residence.

As a result, it's a hotel stay for Harry unless he gets approval from the top on down. He cannot just show up--or take a flight to London to see his father and expect to be accommodated. No one trusts Harry or his wife.

I glad I broke your necklace, Harold.

From the few pictures of him arriving at LHR this morning, it looks like he had a rough night. He spent about as much time flying there and back as he did in London.

This has been an internationally humiliating trip for Harry. He came racing back, and all he got was the bum's rush after just twenty minutes (!!) seeing his father.

Maybe he planned it that way to attract sympathy? Perhaps he was warned he would not be welcome, but decided to go anyway so people would feel sorry for him for being rejected.

Haz has played a stupid, juvenile game and now he is reaping a copious amount of stupid prizes as a result!

Who gets to tell Harry there are "no vacancies"? I hope it's Colonel Johnny!

Why would anyone blame Harry's relatives for his choice of accommodation? He's a grown man who raked them all over the coals. He's estranged from his relatives because of what he said they did to him and his wife in interviews with the press, a Netflix documentary, and a memoir. He gave a big "Bugger Off!" to them for which he earned a shitload of money. It is clear from that that Harry wishes to have nothing to do with them unless it is on his terms.

And they clearly won't dance to his tune. Good for them.

And it is clear that he's a selfish little prick, who wants nothing to do with the work that comes along with his enormously privileged position.

It's good that he came to see his cancer-stricken father. They ought to strip the titles from him, his wife, and their children.

Well it was damned if he did and damned if he didn’t. Your father gets an upsetting cancer diagnosis? Of course you rush to his side (US view). What’s all this rushing about; I’m not on my deathbed yet (British view). Embarrassing for Harry, Charles confirmed the latter by granting him 30 minutes and then helicoptering off to Norfolk.

This whole thing is really sad. Maybe Charles was angry Harry flew over bc it gave the impression to the world Charles was on his deathbed when that wasnt true

[quote] This whole thing is really funny.

FIFY

How does anyone on this thread know whether he chose to stay in a hotel or not. Sheesh.

R7 Thanks for reminding me of that great expression 'bum's rush'.

I've no dog in this fight but I'm starting to feel sorry for Harry. He doesn't seem to grasp that you can't go home again when you blab to anyone who'll listen how badly treated you were by your family. He has said in his defense he left a lot out--what does he want, a cookie? I mean, I wish he had gone scorched earth, his book would have been more fun and had the same results. But if he actually thought that 'it coulda been a lot worse' makes him trustworthy again, he's VERY naive, or thick, or both.

R10 it's not blaming them. I'm trying to understand. The Mountbatten-Windsors have several private estates, yes? Surely Harry could stay in one of those. And Charles has the power to say Harry can stay at the palace(s) if he wants, right? But, he must not want. That's all I'm trying to figure out. Staying in a hotel looks weird.

And then I had one of our flunkies tell him to fuck off back to Montecito!

I'd stay in a hotel too.

He's going to have spent about 22 hours flying by the time all this is over for a 20 minute visit. I get the feeling they weren't expecting or prepared for him to come over that quickly.

[quote]They ought to strip the titles from him, his wife, and their children.

The powers William can exercise post-Coronation are fascinating to imagine indeed. As he and his brother know full well.

He’s definitely in a damned if you do and damned if you don’t situation, but he put himself there and there is one way he could free himself of it. He could issue a sincere and detailed public apology to the family and the British people. Then, Charles could evaluate when and if he wants to see him

[quote]He's going to have spent about 22 hours flying by the time all this is over for a 20 minute visit. I get the feeling they weren't expecting or prepared for him to come over that quickly.

Based on past behavior, I'm more inclined to believe this was all intentional on his part to demonstrate, once again, how he's a victim of his terrrible family.

He raced over as a PR gambit to look like a dutiful and loving son, but see how they treated him?

Bluntly, Facetime probably would have been more effective, but substantially less of a show for the media.

Oh please, Harry's SHREW dispatched him to get the untold story of exactly what cancer The King has, so she can swan around with that information.

r10 is exactly right, and I'm sure nothing was disclosed to Harry, which must've been a pretty awkward conversation. Charles gave him 45 minutes of pleasantries, a lot of 'I'll be fine"; which was to imply "listen you little shit, I know this is all theater stirred up by your shrew of a wife, I have nothing to say to you, and any way, William runs the show and we've already discussed just how little information we're going to give you."

[quote]No one trusts Harry or his wife.

This.

He clearly came to ask for money. And was told “No.”

Palace sources say Prince Andrew offered Harry a room in Royal Lodge including meals and a personal masseuse.

Harry dropped out of the Royal Family. He should expect to stay in a hotel like any tourist.

William would have put his foot down on any accommodation of Harry whatsoever. Camilla would have echoed William's sentiments exactly.

Even Harry’s hatchet job of a book ended up making Charles out to be a sentimental softy. This treatment by Charles underlines how finished Harry really is.

Gayle is breathlessly racing for LAX at this very moment with crew in tow!

I thought it was dangerous for Harry to set foot in London without an entourage of security? Was there security posted outside his hotel room door? Travelling with him through the streets of London? I missed the whole charade.

Ya'll are making it sound like he wasted a day.

What else was he doing? Missing the love of his life?

Harold had a small marked police car waffling around coming in from Heathrow, not exactly a VIP convoy. This morning his private security were in an SUV, to ward off all the tremendous crowd of commoners clawing to get at him (not really about the commoners, there was nary a soul in the pic I saw).

[quote]What else was he doing? Missing the love of his life?

Yes. Its hard to get illicit medication through borders when you're flying commercial.

R15. Regarding Harry staying in a hotel instead staying at a royal residence...see R4. The royal family does not want Harry staying at a royal residence because he cannot be trusted, and the family wants to guard against Harry or his wife bringing in a Netflix crew into a royal residence to show (pretend) that they are welcome and accepted. They're not.

Harry can stay at a royal residence, but he must give the royal family and staff plenty of notice that he's coming. He cannot just show with a day or two notice. The royal family ain't playing.

Wait until she hears they didn't even pay for my flight! How da fuck am I even more out of pocket than I was two days ago?!

Why can’t Megan shitface fly out with him ???? She’s beyond reprehensible

Because she's jetlagged after the flight to Jamaica ^^^^^. And stoned

[quote]Why can’t Megan shitface fly out with him ????

That ship sailed years ago. The Royal Family does not 'do' Meghan Markle.

R36 Harold will never not be heinous. And then there's his gormless personality.

[quote] That ship sailed years ago. The Royal Family does not 'do' Meghan Markle.

So strange. She's done nothing as damaging to the Crown as the late, still-revered Princess Diana.

It's not surprising.

King Charles is half dead.

Kate is half dead.

Edward is getting bed rest.

William is with Rose getting pegged.

Camilla is with her kids, smoking ciggies and drinking martinis.

There really wasn't much for Harry to do there.

Give her time.

[quote] That ship sailed years ago. The Royal Family does not 'do' Meghan Markle.

[quote] So strange. She's done nothing as damaging to the Crown as the late, still-revered Princess Diana.

Except that Meghan is part black, which makes her "persona non grata" among the monarchy types.

In America, we call this "Driving While Black" or "Living While Black."

It doesn't matter what they do, because they're always in the wrong. Just for being black.

"The Royal Family does not 'do' Meghan Markle."

No, but we were so looking forward to seeing the 'cousins'. Archie and...and......Giblets?

Damn! Isn't there anyone else he wanted to visit while he was there? Or did the Firm really just throw him out of the country?

Diana put in many years service, and even at the end had varying degrees of respect by all of them. This is not to defend her, its just how it played out.

Meghan just did a 'smash'n grab' on the Royal family, akin to a swarm looting of a CVS.

Count me as someone who can’t stand Princess Diana or Meghan Markle. People also have a more realistic view of Diana now.

Bye, Felicia.

Charles realized Harry had smuggled a camera phone in via his arsehole when it started ringing- and had him escorted out pronto.

I love how the Black princess has destroyed the RF. I wish Chuckles would just die already.

R17 Thank you. I needed to laugh.

'Except that Meghan is part black, which makes her "persona non grata" among the monarchy types.

In America, we call this "Driving While Black" or "Living While Black."

It doesn't matter what they do, because they're always in the wrong. Just for being black.'

Thank you Claudine Gay the antisemitic thief playing the race card again.

The BRF doesn't realize that the worse they treat Meghan and Harry, the worse their lives will be.

Someone has put a curse on them, on her behalf.

And just look, this has been their worse year ever. And it's only February!

But it can get much worse.

As Celie said in The Color Purple, "Until you do right by me, everything you even think about is going to fail."

That's the curse put on the British Royal Family.

Harry: Mind if I have a seat?

Charles: Oh, I wish you could, but we're expecting someone any second.

Yeah after an 11 hour flight a half hour with his father. Was he even offered a cup of tea? All Charles had to do was snap his fingers and his son would have had royal accommodations for the night. As somebody said the ever indulgent Charles has had enough of this little shit and not feeling well and frightened and traumatized by the news the very sight of him made him feel worse. A half hour with a son he hasn't seen in what was it a year? was all he could stand. And Harry asking about his how much was he going to grab in his inheritance Meghan wants to know didn't help.

Harry made his bed. Tough luck if it isn't in a royal property.

Meghan needed to be home to make her kids milkshakes. Have you ever heard of such a doting mother?

[quote] She's done nothing as damaging to the Crown as the late, still-revered Princess Diana.

Diana was also persona non grata with the BRF.

Maybe Harry knows this is more serious than the 'prognosis good!!' headlines the rest of us are getting.

'The BRF doesn't realize that the worse they treat Meghan and Harry, the worse their lives will be.

Someone has put a curse on them, on her behalf.'

Clearly Meghan is a Satanic spirit. The misery in her own family and now in the royal family can only end with a stake through her heart.

R7 Harry’s had many humiliating trips to the UK ever since severing ties with The Firm. You’d think he’d learn his lesson by now that he’s not welcomed back.

Maybe Harold is leaving quickly because he's upset Pa didn't congratulate him on being a "Living Legend of Aviation".

I wonder if the pilot of the plane flying him back to L.A. knelt down before Harold, took off his hat and thanked him for his service and told him how honored he was to have a "Legend of Aviation" on his flight. According to Meghan, pilots have supposedly knelt before her and thanked her, they certainly should also be doing the same for a legend such as Harold.

It was hardly worth flying over here. But then it's in keeping with the last few times he's been over; fly in one day and fly out the next.

It was all for show. He could have easily called or Skyped his father, but that would have remained private, so he dashed over to appear like the doting son in public.

[quote]Harry’s had many humiliating trips to the UK ever since severing ties with The Firm. You’d think he’d learn his lesson by now that he’s not welcomed back.

I’m with those above who said Harry gets to play dutiful son and then can cry victim when they reject him. It’s a win-win.

[quote]It doesn't matter what they do, because they're always in the wrong. Just for being black.'

My God the melodramatic self-pity! Does this woman ever make herself sick with her incessant whining? 😭😭😭😭😭

Maybe Meghan didn't want him spending the night alone in a hotel room.

What more was there for him to do after the 22 minutes with his undear old dad? He’s rejected all royal duties, anyone he speaks with knows their own words will not be held in confidence, he isn’t going to play tourist, and he’s never seen not clutching his wife’s hand. He was probably in a state of agonizing withdrawal of the only slender support he has in the world, who was back home in a country foreign to him, with their kids.

He’s made a hard, narrow, and thorny bed for himself and he’s out of options.

[quote]Diana put in many years service, and even at the end had varying degrees of respect by all of them. This is not to defend her, its just how it played out.

Diana was also well-liked by the public. Megs…not so much.

Why did he go to London then, r42? He insisted on rushing there.

R44 sounds like a nut.

R51 Take your Lithium. It will make the voices go away.

[Quote]I love how the Black princess has destroyed the RF. I wish Chuckles would just die already.

Yes, a mediocre actress from a mildly successful show on a basic cable channel "destroyed" a 1000-year-old monarchy. 🙄

Bless your idiot heart.

"Someone has put a curse on them, on her behalf."

Azealia Banks is doing her crazy voodoo shit in Montecito while Meghan and Doria roll doobies.

Now the Daily Maul says Harry's spontaneous visit was an inconvenience for the ailing Charles, forcing him to cool his heels waiting in London when he was set to fly to Sandringham. Left unsaid is why Charles didn't ask Harry to come to Sandringham.

R74 - read R3. You think he’s welcome in Camilla’s presence? I hope she put her cigarette out on his cheek before the chopper took off.

It was stupid why he flew over to begin with. What did he think he was going to do? It's not an instant death sentence and he'll be getting the best treatment available.

Will will be the main benefactor of the will.

R75 Most everyone has pretty good idea why he wasn't invited, so it's amusing how the DM begs the question by focusing on how little time they had together.

btw, Meghan and Harry nowhere to be seen at the LA Premier of One Love, now red carpet appearance, nada. This after schlepping their asses down to Jamaica and back ....

SMASH AND GRAB R47-very funny, I love being here on “The DL”

Is OP's photo of him pre-hair transplant or post-? It better had be pre-, because he looks like an eaglet.

Daily Mail is no longer monitoring articles about him.

I'm glad they stopped coddling him.

Brad Pitt attends the premier of One Love in LA. He's one of the producers of the film.

I guess he had better things to do than fly to Jamaica...

[quote]It was stupid why he flew over to begin with. What did he think he was going to do?

Most things he does are stupid.

I adore Charles — he couldn’t be arsed to spend more than an hour with his loser of a son who flew all the way in from California.

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I wonder if Charles, Harry and Camilla do the customary kissing on cheeks greeting now?

^ Perhaps it was Harry’s choice to stay in a hotel in hopes of a nightcap with Nacho. 🐎 🐎

Yeah I thought that was kind of sad, r84. A 40 minute visit after a 10 hour flight? It's all Harry's fault of course but it's still a sad situation.

As these threads always reveal, the troll armies of the British Secret Service (and doubtless some funded by "The Firm" aka Charles & Camilla) have succeeded in their character assassination of Harry, along with his wife.

Now it's just a matter of time before they carry out his actual assassination.

They're following the exact same playbook they used with his mother.

“character assassination” hahahahahahajahahaha

who sold his family out for millions?

How silly. Why would anyone bother to assassinate him? He's largely irrelevant.

Pish posh. Hsrold has no character to assassinate.

[quote] I wonder if Charles, Harry and Camilla do the customary kissing on cheeks greeting now?

Now that they're the king and queen, Harry has to bow his neck when he greets both his father and Camilla, even in private. And when Meghan next sees them (if ever) she will be expected to curtsy to both of them.

Expected, but not absolutely required. I wonder what she would do? My bet is no curtsey. No. one would say a thing, but it would be silently 'noted' by all and sundry; just another notch in the BRF's 'we don't 'do' Meghan Markle' canon.

Julia Roberts as Camilla and Meryl Streep as Harry...

I'm picturing Harry looking all jet lagged and carrying one of those 1940 style suitcases. It has stickers from all his and Meghans various trips. He just found out there's no room at the royal inn and suites after talking to some fifth tier royal secretary. He approaches the front desk of a Motel 6 with his one security guard. When checking in He tells them he forgot his toothbrush and do they have any.

Buh-bye Harry!

The Duke of Sussex always looks happiest back home in a 21st century country.

Does Camilla do the customary kissing on cheeks greeting now?

Because Harry really wants to be kissed by this...

R91 " He's largely irrelevant."

Yet you've posted hundreds of times on this" irrelevant" Duke of Sussex😂

Irrelevant to the people you think want to assassinate him, dumbo.

The whole trip was about grabbing headlines. It was a business trip, PR for brand Sussex. A brief break from his humdrum life was probably nice too.

“You will return!”

[quote] King Charles III's Emotional Appearance After Meeting Prince Harry Might Reflect End of Family Feud

Prince Harry’s meeting with King Charles III in the U.K. after his cancer diagnosis was probably shorter than anyone expected, but it seems like it was an emotional moment. Approximately 45 minutes after the Duke of Sussex arrived, the monarch was spotted leaving Clarence House for Sandringham.

The brief reunion has everyone wondering what was said when they finally met face to face. Photographers captured King Charles looking like he might have been crying or at least sentimental about the moment. In some ways, it’s hard to believe that Harry flew overseas to only see his father for less than an hour, but these are extraordinary times in the royal family. The health battle that Charles is facing so early in his tenure as king has to be weighing heavily on everyone in the royal family.

That seems to be the general feeling behind the scenes after a palace source revealed to The Telegraph, “He’s on his usual good form in every way, just a little frustrated that his condition has affected not just his own plans but impacted on others.” The impact on appearances will be felt by the remaining senior royals, but it might also finally end the family feud for good — at least between Harry and Charles.

Other insiders are noting the Duke of Sussex is making plans to “spend more time” with his U.K. family and is even “keen to start healing his rift” with Prince William, according to the Mirror. While the Prince of Wales doesn’t seem very open to that idea right now, it appears that Meghan Markle is on board with Harry’s path to reconciliation. “Meghan has given him her blessing to do this as she knows family is paramount,” the royal insider shared. “It’s early days yet and they are working out logistically how they can make it work as Harry’s life is now in the States with his wife and kids.”

William has his own challenges ahead as Kate Middleton recovers from her “planned abdominal surgery,” so Harry might need to have patience with his timing. However, the door seems wide open with Charles as the father and son work hard to make amends with each other, especially in the king’s time of need. Prince Harry wrote over and over again in his memoir, Spare, about how much he loved his father, and his overnight journey to see King Charles for such a short meeting proves he will stop at nothing to heal the rift.

Was it a nice hotel?

Wasn’t Meghan at the Queen’s funeral? Didn’t the Fab Four do a meet and great together? You all act like H&M are fully ostracized. That’s not the case

The article at R104 proves that the mainstream media narrative is quite different from the Klan Granny op's narrative, R106.

Grand Wizard OP would like you to believe that all is not well between Charles and Harry, but that is not the case.

Has anyone stopped to think that it may have been Harry's choice to stay in a hotel? He may be paranoid that a room or suite provided in one of the palaces is bugged or has cameras to pick up on his conversations and track his cell phone activity. It would be totally in character for him.

R104 Meghan “knows that family is paramount”?

Comedy gold!

Right r104 the woman who has iced out her father and most of her own family.

[quote]He could have easily called or Skyped his father, but that would have remained private...

Harry did talk to Charles on the phone when his father broke the news of his illness. 'The Times', not noted for front page melodrama, described the call as 'emotional.'

Charles's people might well have regarded other means of face-to-face cyber-talk as leakable, not without reason. Harry's extensive round trip for a mere twenty-minute meeting could be framed as (literally) going that extra mile. For all the understandably cynical interpretations, it was probably the right thing to do.

Are Harry and Meghan really that awful?

^^YES. They're awful.

Markle didn't even curtsey or bob to ERII at the Spectacle.

Meghan fucks up everything. The article at R104 might as well be titled “Paid PR Fantasy.” By insisting that they include the “family is paramount” line she made the whole attempt backfire.

The BRF spends more and has more pull and manipulates the press more successfully, but it’s her bullshit that hurts the H&M brand.

Harry might have done the right thing. Miraculously. Probably by accident. It seems like either he is:

1. Absolutely 100% shut out and no member of the BRF is going to even deign to show surface or face saving politeness. And it’s not going to change because Will is more adamant than Charles and Charles is on the way out. All his former “friends” are going to toe the line and avoid any hint of association with him. Because wtf, he has no friends that could have put him up for a night to help him avoid the humiliation of a hotel? In which case, the damage was already done and at least people feel sorry for him now. They do seem to be behaving better so maybe this is rock bottom and, while remaining estranged from the BRF, they can salvage a little respectability stateside.

Or, 2. Charles has a very treatable form of cancer and the snub was really more about, “wtf, Harry? Why are you here? Tonight is dessert night at Sandringham.” In which case Harry has communicated that when something really does happen he will need to be dealt with and he has proven willing to be humiliated to get a seat at the table. If even for only 20 minutes.

Because, boy, I get that he deserves a lot of it but that was COLD. And I do think a lot of the press coverage is very manipulated and designed to make the rest of the BRF look better at the expense of Harry and Meghan. But they make it easy for them.

Him and Markle were such prisspots and pains in the ass to the Royal staff when they lived there that they have probably been blacklisted from ever staying in one of them again.

My read is that Charles would have liked to be more welcoming to Harry. It was their private conversation that led to Harry’s trip. But Camilla, William and the court functionaries iced him out.

R111, all for show. Probably on both sides.

Yeah, it was cold, but necessary.

And scoff if you will, but remember the old expression when an authority figure, a parent or teacher, had to punish and then observed “This hurts me more than it hurts you?”

KC knows he had to do that. He knows it hurt and embarrassed Harry. I think it hurt KC to have to do it.

But KC has to keep giving the message to Harry about how Harry massively fucked up.

And don’t forget KC is caught between William and Harry, He needs William now more than ever, publicly and personally.

I think, therefore, another reason KC treated Harry that way is to appease William.

Please don’t refer to His Majesty as KC.

The proper abbreviation is CR.

[quote] Please don’t refer to His Majesty as KC.

[quote] The proper abbreviation is CR.

Oh, but it's okay for the OP to refer to Prince Harry as "Harry Windsor."

You hypocritical Klan Granny cunts.

I love how you demand that Waity Katie be referred to as "Princess Katherine," and the Consort Whore be referred to as "Queen Camilla."

But when it comes to the person who was actually BORN into royalty - the King's own son - you refuse to use his title Prince Henry, and instead call him Harry Windsor.

Fucking dumb cunts!

You are overreacting and incorrect. I do not refer to the Duke of Sussex as Harry Windsor.

Plus, you’d have to be a moron to refer to the Princess of Wales as Princess Katherine. She is not even Princess Catherine. She is Catherine, Princess of Wales or Princess William if you’re feeling frisky.

Quite right. One must be born royal to use the title Princess with one’s own name.

People can be such sticklers in this crowd.

No one is saying the prognosis is good, all they’re saying is it was caught early.

R109 R104 Meghan “knows that family is paramount”?

Comedy gold!

Paramount+ Streaming deal in the works?

[quote] Oh, but it's okay for the OP to refer to Prince Harry as "Harry Windsor." You hypocritical Klan Granny cunts. I love how you demand that Waity Katie be referred to as "Princess Katherine," and the Consort Whore be referred to as "Queen Camilla." But when it comes to the person who was actually BORN into royalty - the King's own son - you refuse to use his title Prince Henry, and instead call him Harry Windsor.

The monarchy is dead! Long live the monarchy! But only for Haz who shat all over it

Fucking dumb cunts!

I liked, "She gave her blessing". How the hell do they know?

^ The last obscenity was part of the original quote

[quote]You all act like H&M are fully ostracized. That’s not the case

The subtle nuances go right over your head.

R101 -R131 You Fraus have enormous energy.. Meth?

The Sussexes pushed in all their chips on the Oprah interview. They raised the ante with the Netflix series and Harry's "Spare".

They risked their presence as immediate recognized members of the BRF and bet that on them being among the moneyed A List crowd.

They've lost, and embarrassing spectacles like this are them paying up.

Both of my parents had cancer, which killed them. The thought of spending only a half hour with them after diagnosis is absolutely astonishing. Even the NYT has a WTF story about Harry’s 24-hour visit today.

I’m sure Charles gave him the brush off, but rightly fucking so. Harry has excoriated Camilla and William for petty slights for the past 3 years. By many reports, he extorted Charles to give his kid titles in exchange for a drive by appearance at the coronation. He badgered the Queen for assorted nonsense once he met Meghan.

I think Meghan is a piece of work, but she’s not to blame. It was Harry’s choice to fuck over his family. Now any attempt to connect with them comes off as a publicity stunt. I don’t doubt he cares for his dad, but racing to his side sure messaged that Charles’ condition was dire, which, apparently, annoyed Charles’ handlers who hurried him out of Charles’ reach.

Good move on the bitchy queens who run the palace. They know exactly what they’re doing. If Harry had any sense he would have hung out in England a few days. But he has no sense so high tailed it back to CA, showing that he’s not welcomed by anyone in the UK.

Poor Haz you can tell by his face how much he misses Shutter Island.

So Harry turns up for what must have been a pre-scheduled appearance at the NFL Honors after flying straight back from his dash to the UK to spend only 20 minutes with his father.

In other words, this bizarre trip to the UK for just a day was completely unnecessary and achieved nothing more (aside from demonstrating how insane Harry is) than cause stress for his father, as he begins gruelling cancer treatment.

So neglecting Dad would have sent a more compassionate message? Gotcha!

Lol, r137, you really are thick as pig shit. Aside from the fact that Harry has only smeared and attacked his father and the rest of this family in his public message, his trip didn't show any concern for dad whatsoever. In fact, it caused more stress to dad. If Harry really cared about dad and wanted to see dad then he could have arranged to go home at a later date when he had some time and during dad's rounds of treatment. If you think this trip was about showing compassion then you really are a big idiot.

You're 100% correct, R137.

Harry is damned if he does, and damned if he doesn't.

The guy cannot win with the Klan Grannies.

Anything he does will be criticised by them.

It's easier to just not pay any attention to them.

They're full of hate and bile.

Lol, r139. Harry is only damned because he's a big fucking moron.

Only a fucking idiot would think that dashing to the UK for a 20-minute meeting is reasonable. No one expected him to visit his father right now, so he wouldn't have been damned if he didn't come.

But, carry on making complete fools of yourself because you backed the wrong horse and now have to justify every stupid little thing he does (which is quite a lot of things).

Harry and Meghan are at the point where they can do no right.

There was nothing wrong with Harry going to visit his dad, even with the humiliation of only getting 20 minutes and having to stay in a hotel. And, as pointed out, it might have had something to do with nobody trusting Harry to receive information in writing or over zoom/phone call.

There was nothing wrong with Harry and Megan going to a low rent film premier in Jamaica.

But they’ve done so much stuff like claim they were almost killed in a speeding car chase and visiting Ulvalde with sandwiches that everything they do is picked apart.

No, he would’ve been castigated if he hadn’t gone over. What looks silly is the 20 minute meeting. He should’ve stayed for a few days which would’ve appeared that they met again for longer (even if they didn’t). It was the flying out too soon, to attend an awards show (to which he had no connection) that looks dumb. He should’ve blown that off, “my father’s health is more important”. But I suppose he was paid an appearance fee and needed the money.

While I initially defended Harry, it’s clear now that the visit was unrequested, unwelcome, and entirely pointless. I had assumed he would be staying in the UK a while, and spending time with his father. Even if that had been the case, it would only have been constructive if the King had wanted it, but obviously the King did not. As it turned out, it didn’t even score Harry any PR points. It made him look selfish and impetuous.

[quote] He should’ve blown that off, “my father’s health is more important”. But I suppose he was paid an appearance fee and needed the money.

But if he blew off an appearance and then people found out he was only pretending to attend ongoing family events in the UK it would have been even worse. I agree with the gist of what you are saying, but I think in this case accepting the fail of the humiliation was the right choice. He already had nowhere to go but up and now even people who dislike him feel sorry for him, even if they acknowledge that he probably deserved it.

He also loses points for announcing the trip to the media.

I get the point of r144 and there is something to it.

What dictated Harry’s ping-pong behavior by that quick trip to London, had as much to do with presenting that NFL award as it did with whatever concern he had for his father.

He took the humiliation of the brief visit knowing that getting slammed for not seeing his father but having time to present the award was the reality of the public image choice he had to make.

And, in the process, only proved that the Sussexes still need the BRF more than the BRF need the Sussexes.

His self-importance and grandiosity is what gets me.

It's on a scale even the most "important" of the senior Royals would save for the most extreme of occasions. Most of them barely made it to the Queen's bedside in time when they knew she had only hours to live. They would only fly halfway around the world for the biggest of occasions like a global heads of government summit or state visit and even then they'd be criticised. A film premiere or a cancer diagnosis would not justify such lengths.

If he hadn’t gone to see Charles first, he’d be getting even more shit for the NFL gig, and he wanted to do the NFL gig.

They’ve been playing it right (miraculously) for the last few months. The only misstep was the aviation award, and that wasn’t terrible, it’s just that anything they do wrong gets exaggerated.

I disagree, r147. Hopping on a 10 hour direct flight to visit your sole remaining parent after a cancer diagnosis is not grandiose. I'm no fan of Harry but your logic is crazy.

The important thing to keep in mind is that the visit was an unwelcome imposition on the King at a stressful time. He’s apparently not on death’s door, but chemotherapy is no picnic. A phone call and a planned visit at a convenient time is the right thing to do.

[quote] There was nothing wrong with Harry going to visit his dad,

His dad didn't want him there. It was more stress for KC. Harry publicized the visit, which he should not have. It's like bringing a gift that no one wants. Why didn't his father want him there? Because Harry blabs his version of what happened to interviewers and in his books. And because of all the other beastly things he's done.

Reconciliation is being aware of the other person's feelings.

Pics of Harry at Heathrow show way more luggage than a one-night trip. Plus, he put out PR that he wanted to stay for 6 months and was hoping to meet up with William. Clearly, his visit was unwanted and he was summarily advised to go home. (The Palace's choreography and messaging for Harry's visit were perfection. It was made crystally clear to Harry and the press that Harry will not get any mileage - especially photo ops - from the King's illness.)

The NFL deal was a last-minute walk-on arranged at the behest of his team to save face for the humiliation of what happened in London.

Where did he say he wanted to stay six months? That makes no sense without his family.

Just out of curiosity, how much does one collect to present an NFL award?

There are a lot of conflicting stories out there.

Harry's visit was 45 minutes. No, it was 20 minutes.

Charles called and asked Harry to come see him; Harry arrived out of nowhere.

It may have been stupid on Harry's part but, he missed seeing his grandmother before she died. I'm sure he felt a sense of love and urgency to see his father.

Bullshit. He's spent years trying to destroy his father but now he loves him? What are you smoking and can I have some?

If the King had asked Harry to visit, he would not have been brushed off. Think about it. Is the start of his chemotherapy when the King wanted to reconcile with his estranged son? While William is dealing with his wife’s recovery?

One of the Invictus execs is a sport tv exec. Thus, Harry's appearance last night. Expect to see Harry at more sports events since Hollywood and the military will no longer answer his calls.

R155, Harry was in the the UK when his grandmother died. She was 96 and obviously not in a good condition. If he really gave a shit about seeing her, he could easily have done so.

Thanks, R158. Now the NFL appearance makes sense. Harry the sportsman who plays videogames and gores polo ponies.

R159, yes had flown to the UK but reports were that he was in route to the castle when she actually passed. That's what I meant when I said he wasn't there. He wasn't at her bedside.

Once again, their extraordinarily bad luck re timing. Dad gets serious diagnosis. Should estranged son make a mercy dash to his bedside? Or should son attend superfluous awards show that his team arranged.

The aviation award was pretty terrible. He deserved that award about as much as he would deserve the Nobel Prize for Physics. It’s not at all weird people mocked him relentlessly for that.

I’m a step parent of two. I’ve been in their lives since they were very young and served as a full parent—not an ancillary adult.

They’re both adults now. I absolutely adore the younger one—even when he’s an asshole. All kids are assholes at some point to their parents and it’s easy to forgive if the kid recognizes at some level they’ve been an asshoke. It’s part of separating from their parents.

The older kid, though, I can barely stomach. He’s a miserable person who insults/criticizes us every chance he gets. He’s a completely disrespectful, ungrateful prick. I know that he can’t help it in some way because he clearly struggles with depression and has major social anxiety issues so has no real friends.

But still… I only will be around him when I absolutely have to.

And, I imagine, that’s where Charles is with Harry. You’re a parent so you have to at least pretend to “love” your child even when they are awful to you. But, in reality, there are plenty of parents who don’t love their adult children for good reason (and vise versa). You can’t endlessly abuse a person and expect unconditional love.

R161, Harry was in the UK for scheduled events, for WellChild and the One Young World summit. Before that, he had been in Germany for an Invictus event. These were scheduled trips arranged some time beforehand. At no time during his scheduled trip to the UK did he plan to visit his grandmother, or any member of his family. He in fact planned on leaving the UK without visiting her. If he had really wanted to see her, he could have arranged a visit will he was here. His little performance about wanting to rush to her death bed but he couldn't because William - who had another million things to think about at that moment - didn't arrange it for him is as bullshit as his 30-minute visit to his dad the other day.

Hilarious how you doltish fraus project all you council flat family dramas on to the Windsors. Yeah they are just like your family and you are trailer park royalty.😂

[quote]now even people who dislike him feel sorry for him

I don't.

Meghan to Harry immediately upon his return: "did they ask if I'm ok?"

Harry to Meghan: "uhm, your name never came up actually"

I’m sure the King asked after Meghan. Perfunctorily.

He’s well-bred.

Meanwhile....

"Prince Harry will receive a “substantial” payout after settling the remaining parts of his phone-hacking case against the publisher Mirror Group Newspapers (MGN), his lawyer told the High Court in London Friday, according to the UK’s PA Media news agency.

Lawyer David Sherborne told the court that MGN, which publishes British tabloid The Daily Mirror , will pay the Duke of Sussex “a substantial additional sum by way of damages” as well as his legal costs, PA Media reported.

In December, the judge ruled that Prince Harry was the victim of phone hacking and other means of “unlawful information gathering” by MGN. The judge awarded Harry £140,600 ($177,000) in damages in the ruling.

“Everything we said was happening at Mirror Group was in fact happening, and indeed far worse, as the court ruled in its extremely damaging judgment,” Prince Harry said in a statement read by his lawyer outside court Friday."

GO HARRY!!

I still think he's sexy. I'll crush on him forever.

Still a lot less than what William got for settling privately and discreetly with News International, r171. Mind you, Harry did get his payout reduced because he only won a part - not all - of his claims against the Mirror. He was going for £2 million and only got £300,000.

Don't forget that Harry also had his attempt to stop the Mail group from defending itself against his libel claims thrown of court, i.e. the judge agreed with the Mail that there was a good case to be made that Harry lied about his attempts to get tax payers to pay for his security.

[quote] But if he blew off an appearance and then people found out he was only pretending to attend ongoing family events in the UK it would have been even worse. I agree with the gist of what you are saying, but I think in this case accepting the fail of the humiliation was the right choice. He already had nowhere to go but up and now even people who dislike him feel sorry for him, even if they acknowledge that he probably deserved it.

I’m amazed that anyone feels sorry for him. If I had written something like Spare, portraying one of my siblings as a rageful bully who married for convenience rather than love or portraying my father as a vaguely well-meaning emotional cripple, I would fully expect that my relationship with them would be over.

I can understand that Harry is insecure and feels like a victim, but I cannot understand how he though this was going to work out for him. Did he expect Charles to live to be 100, signing cheques for the Duke and Duchess of Montecito for all those years? I hope Charles lives a long life, but (apart from Prince Phillip) few of Charles’ male forebears lived to be a great age. William, the main target of Harry’s spite, was always likely to be on the throne within a decade.

Context is everything. If Harry was a loving son who wanted the best for his dad and whose presence made things better, then it would be the most natural thing in the world for him to rush to his ill dad’s bedside and entirely natural for Charles to want to spend as much time as possible with him.

However, Harry’s effect on Charles and the rest of his family has been entirely stressful, destabilising and hurtful for years now. If he had any sense or compassion, he would have realised that Charles is facing up to enough upheaval and worry at the moment and he would have thought twice about suddenly appearing at Clarence House like a human hand grenade.

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Ha! No way would Megdusa allow Hazbeen out of her clutches for six months

SEETH KLAN GRANIES. SEETH!

The perfect summary at r175. The only thing that might make things more understandable is if Harry had pangs of regret and wanted to make amends ASAP in case the worst scenario

The Duke of Success.

In the new bio on Charles, which was excellently sourced—Princess Anne was a primary source—apparently the family suspects that Meghan is working on a memoir. The fact the Harry left out many details of the Meghan drama are being left for Meghan to voice.

I hope to hell this is true. It will be the DL hate-read of all time.

Do either of them have a job? Is producing a legit paycheck. Or do you only get paid if what you produce is successful?

SUCK IT UP YOU DERANGED CUNTS!😂

Cheating Pa's dying of cancer. Cunty racist sis in law is on medical leave. Basher Bro is a drunk in public and my bank account is 2.5 million pounds richer.

Good Day in Montecito USA.

OMG, R178 -- have you always been an idiot, or is this a recent development?

The word is SEETHE. With an E at the end. FFS, look it up!

No, the Harkles do.not have jobs R181. They are unfit for any job, so their ony recourse is to hop on somebody else's train and scream, LOOK AT US!

“My Voice” by Meghan, The Duchess of Sussex and Montecito

[quote] apparently the family suspects that Meghan is working on a memoir.

Correct

That's quite a large carbon footprint created by flying halfway around the world for a 20 minute visit, for a so-called "environmental activist."

I've avoided "Spare", but I'd read Meghan's book.

For my entertainment dollar, the self-justifying, rationalizations and cognitive dissonance would be worth it.

The Sussexes have managed to turn their fuck-ups into entertainment.

It reminds of the film dialog from "Body Heat" when Lowenstein, the prosecutor, tells his opposing defense attorney Ned, "I think I've underestimated you, Ned. You've turned your incompetence into a weapon."

[quote]I'd read Meghan's book.

A whole book full of Tig-style effusions. The mind boggles.

Will she read the book for an audio copy?

[Quote]“My Voice” by Meghan, The Duchess of Sussex and Montecito

Alternate title: "I Am OK: How an Activist Black Girl Grew Up to Survive the Racism of the British Royal Family" by Meghan, etc.

R184 the word for you is LOON with two O's .

BREAKING: William is a corrupt POS just like his Pa.

Willy took the traditional Royal Crime Family way out. In his "secret agreement" with scum bag Rupert Murdoch owner of News of The World He accepted a 2 million pound payoff/bribe to not take Rupert Murdoch to court publicly over the phone hacking. Of course this was on the down low until Harry outed this bribe taking big bro pocketing cash in his book. Suddenly pay to not sue Willy tardily announced he decided to "donate" the 2 million to charity. Of course 3 YEARS after the quid was deposited in his Swiss bank account. Willy and Charles begged Harry not to take Murdoch to court "It just won't do dear boy." A major reason William hates Harry. Harry's ballsy PUBLIC outing of Murdoch and his corrupt brother cost William a bundle .Willy's 2 million still hasn't been fully accounted for since it was "under the table" No doubt a large amount was donated to the Rosie Hanbury Foundation For Pegging. Charles has done the same payoff in cash with his phone hacking 20 years ago the "private cash settlement" went into his "private properties" under the money laundering scheme that is Charlie's Princes Trust. The Windsors are basically whores. 2 million pounds to Murdoch is chump change. Fergie on tape asking for a million pounds for "access" aka pimping out her pedo hubby Andrew. The problem was Harry would not play their vile old game. He told Pa " fuck you I'm going public". He took Murdoch to court and won. An honorable man who can't be "bought off" like his venal corrupt bought and paid for media puppets Pa and Brother. Well done Harry. A true Prince.

Put the pipe down, R194.

R194 What was that Klan Gran?

Awesome dirt, R194!!!!

That is some JUICY gossip.

Keep it coming!!!

[quote]What was that Klan Gran?

It's beyond time to retire this phrase. Truly one of the dumbest things found on this site.

R198 Agree. We prefer the more accurate.

CRAZY RASCIST CUNT.

You really need to work on your spelling, R199.

"Truly one of the dumbest things found on this site."

Assumed that was you R198.

KGT (Klan Granny Troll) uses the same tired pictures and phrases over and over. They may have dementia.

I’m assuming meth-induced psychosis.

This morning, chemotherapy room at Sandringham...

Oh look! KGT is trying out a new meme!

MURIEL STOP THIS NOW!!! BAN THIS MADMAN!!!! ENOUGH OF THIS DISRESPECTFUL MEGSTAN TROLL!!!! KING CHARLES MAY HAVE HIS FAULTS: HE MAY HAVE BEEN A CHEATING HUSBAND.HE MAY HAVE BEEN A POOR FATHER. HE MAY HAVE BEEN AN UNACOMPLISHED SON AND HEIR. HE MAY HAVE ACCEPTED BAGS OF CASH FROM FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS. BUT FOR 76 YEARS CHARLES HAS DEVOTED HIS LIFE TO IMPROVING THE LIVES OF HIS TRUE BRITISH SUBJECTS BY PLAYING POLO AND CUTTING RIBBONS. BY THE GRACE OF GOD OUR BELOVED MONARCH KING CHARLES III DESERVES THE RESPECT HE HAS TRULY EARNED!!!!

R206 Hear hear! It is comforting to know there are still some of us British who know what qualities Englishmen value in their King.

[quote]KGT (Klan Granny Troll) uses the same tired pictures and phrases over and over. They may have dementia.

It’s probably Janbot.

Harry is lucky he left the Royal Family. This just demonstrates how much trash they really are when an olive branch is being handed to them and respond with petty, vindictive snotty behavior over someone just trying to live their own life.

[quote] Harry is lucky he left the Royal Family. This just demonstrates how much trash they really are when an olive branch is being handed to them and respond with petty, vindictive snotty behavior over someone just trying to live their own life.

An olive branch! - Turning up unexpectedly at the home of a newly cancer-stricken man, who he shamed in front of the world (for cash) as a terrible, emotionally constipated dad married to a pantomime villain!

R209, do you know what I think is “petty, vindictive snotty behavior”? It’s casting aspersions on your brother’s reasons for marrying. And publishing messages his wife sent in private, despite the fact that she has only ever been kind to you (“the sister l never had”). And unashamedly detailing (in public, for cash, complete with unflattering descriptions of disability) the hard time you gave to a servant looking after you at one of the world’s best schools, just because she wasn’t hot. And punching random people, safe in the knowledge that you have police protection there to step in if anyone retaliates. And telling a black British comedian that he spoke good English for a black guy!

Who knew King Charles at r210 was posting here.

Look Gramps, get over yourself. An olive branch is an olive branch, let Let bygones be bygones, that what normal loving parents do. You are not taking all those bedazzled purple hats with you, and with that cancer thing, your life clock is at 11:49. You got maybe a few months. Time to man up, you're a king now, not a 74 year old prince with a pissy entitled attitude who's spent his life waiting for Mum to die.

R211 You really are totally thick.

[quote]The NFL deal was a last-minute walk-on arranged at the behest of his team to save face for the humiliation of what happened in London.

R152. No, the NFL deal was not last-minute. It had been planned for quite a while. Harry and Markle flew to Jamaica for the opening of the Bob Marley film, One Love, on the private jet owned by the head of Paramount-Plus. The NFL award ceremony was being streamed by Paramount-Plus.

When Harry was asked why he went to Jamaica for the film opening. He responded by saying, "I had to go." And now we know why he had to go--because Harry agreed to do the NFL thing weeks ago--and no doubt he was being paid by Paramount-Plus, and the Markles are trying to establish a relationship with Paramount-Plus because they know Netflix will be dropping them for lack of product and content.

Next week Harry is going to Canada for the initial planning of next year's Invictus games. Since it would have looked shitty for Harry, he knew he couldn't show up at the Paramount-Plus/NFL ceremony if he hadn't visited his father first. So, it wasn't Charles who cut the meeting short. It was Harry squeezing in a meeting with his father just to outwardly fulfill a "Dad visit obligation" then telling Charles, "Hey, I can't stay long--got to go. I'm heading to Vegas. See ya."

^^Harry never would have canceled the NFL appearance--no matter how sick his father is--because Harry is trying to stay in the good graces of Paramount-Plus.

All the talk about reconciliation is bullshit. Family be damned. Nothing is going to get in Harry's way when it comes to making money. Harry and his grifting wife have nothing left to sell. Cancer schmancer, the adulation of the spotlight and cold hard cash means much more to Harry and Markle than anything including his father.

Markle cut her father loose. Harry will do the same.

[quote] An olive branch is an olive branch, let Let bygones be bygones, that what normal loving parents do.

No, normal parents teach their children that there are boundaries, and that means that tantrums have consequences. So, if you have spent years screaming about your family to anyone who will pay you, then you do not get to decide the timing of any reconciliation.

[quote] You are not taking all those bedazzled purple hats with you, and with that cancer thing, your life clock is at 11:49. You got maybe a few months.

Gosh, you really are witty! That “hat” comment: you should try to get it made into a movie!

One sad but useful thing cancer teaches is that time is short: Charles seems to have learned that, and he doesn’t feel the need to waste his time (however long or short) on a child who holds him in contempt.

Before the Netflix Harry and Meghan series and the Meghan Spotify podcast, the Harkles played the game with the streamers completely wrong by giving so much content to Oprah, apple+, and even The Armchair Expert (the podcast with that drugged-out weirdo).

Not to mention FF and more recently Endgame, as well as endless scoops to Scobie and US People magazine. They couldn't have pissed off the streamers more if they'd actually tried to, all the scoops going elsewhere.

Dimbo's appearance at the NFL event and the two of them appearing in Jamaica must have pretty much killed whatever remained of the Netflix deal. I just hope once Netflix cans them, we get more dirt on them than the grifters tag. And also that by then that Paramount+ will have experienced enough of them to lead them on and dump them. How desperate must Paramount+ be?

[QUOTE]When Harry was asked why he went to Jamaica for the film opening. He responded by saying, "I had to go." And now we know why he had to go--because Harry agreed to do the NFL thing weeks ago--and no doubt he was being paid by Paramount-Plus

What a thoughtful, diplomatic response showing his enthusiasm for Paramount+ products. I'm sure P+ will do well to keep him on board, if not as a content producer, then as its spokesperson.

What the fuck is wrong with Paramount+ even thinking of cozying up to the know-nothing, do-nothing Montecito grifters?

Not only do they not work and expect people to kiss their asses, they are talentless and not experienced in developing content or television production. Television production is not something you just fall into when there is nothing left to do. It takes knowledge, intelligence and a creative mind. The Markles possess none of those qualities.

Didn't Harry win some award for his flying achievements? Did he himself fly to London and back?

Will that settlement of 177,000 pounds even pay the mortgage on the Mini Palace for a year?

Who cares and please don't say "you obviously do"? These two are stupid, vulgar people who will always be taken care of. Compared to the rest of us, they will always live lives filled with comfort and luxury. They're not going to fade off the planet. Best thing is to get used to them and ignore them.

Why would the NFL, Paramount+, or anyone with a functioning brain want Prince Pathetic to present an award for a sport he knows nothing about?

Because Harry is Royalty.

To dwell on the fact that he’s persona non grata in his own immediate Royal family is missing the point.

It’s how he’s perceived here that is the point and the fact that Harry wouldn’t know a cut-block from a standard block is of no moment.

I think it’s a bit of a notch in his belt to have presented the Walter Payton Humanitarian Award.

In a swamp of hypocrisy, greed and nefariousness that is the NFL owners group and Roger Goodell, the Walter Payton Award is still considered to have earned genuine, honest prestige.

Most of us aren’t fooled by Harry. I don’t even think the NFL is fooled by him.

There is no getting around the fact that the very same institution, the BRF, that he owes his position and money-earning power to is the very same one he denigrates.

He’s got to take these gigs because the stardom window, such as it is, for both of them is going to give in to gravity. Soon.

R211 American

Following in the footsteps of the Sussexes (who are actually working for a living.) Willy has signed with Disney for a project.

One sad but useful thing cancer teaches is that time is short: Charles seems to have learned that, and he doesn’t feel the need to waste his time (however long or short) on a nation who holds him in contempt.

Fixed for R215

R219 Yes—and boy were his arms tired!

"Why would the NFL, Paramount+, or anyone with a functioning brain want Prince Pathetic to present an award for a sport he knows nothing about?😂

"Not only do they not work and expect people to kiss their asses, they are talentless.stupid, vulgar people who will always be taken care of. Compared to the rest of us, they will always live lives filled with comfort and luxury. "

R221 You lookin at We?

"He’s got to take these gigs because the stardom window, such as it is, for both of them is going to give in to gravity. Soon."

Yes, but then she'll merch the kids. By that stage, they'll be separated and he'll blame his family again for the end of his marriage.

Harry will be 40 (a hard 40) and Meghan 43 this year, they have to strike now before they are considered old by today's younger generation.

Nobody in the US even gives a shit about them. We don't do Royalty here. And she's just a failed actress.

[quote]Yes, but then she'll merch the kids.

Let's be real, she's no Pimp Mama Kris Jenner. Everything she's tried to merch so far has failed.

I predict the kids will be good looking, if they follow her genetics. A bit less ginger would be a help.

If they are going to the Super Bowl who is paying for their million dollar suite? Do they ever take their kids to anything, or just the 4th of July parade once a year?

If they're downgrading from Netflix to Paramount+ I'd say the fame window is pretty much shut at this point.

[quote]Do they ever take their kids to anything, or just the 4th of July parade once a year?

A British Prince celebrating the 4th of July is beyond pathetic.

Harry's understanding of history is limited, R237. He doesn't see the significance of the date. In the same way he has a basic understanding of how monarchy works, despite having 40 years insight.

Let me start by saying that I can't stand the Harkles. But you don't take your kids to the Super Bowl. As to them paying for a suite? No chance, they'll be guests of some network or film company, Netflix, Universal... whatever, or some super desperate fame whore that wants to decorate their box with any available celebrity.

Her genetics? Have you seen her original face?

Exactly, who takes kids to the Super Bowl. If however, Harry wants his children to have a normal life, why is he insisting on them receiving titles? It's so contradictory.

"Her genetics? Have you seen her original face?"

Apart from possibly bobbing her nose, she hasn't done anything else to her face.

Sure Jan

Original

Haha. Those chikdren are all Markle, poor dears

Unless the kids were genetic throwbacks looking like Diana, they didn't have much hope of looking presentable. Doria was attractive but Dimbo's genes seem to dominate.

Luckily you look exactly like you did when you were 14yo R244

Meghan Markle has a lovely face and it’s mostly original. She was a cute kid and she is a very good-looking woman. She got her teeth fixed, her face thinned with age, her brows are groomed and she wears make up. The same things most affluent women do in 2024.

I don’t like her much and she does have bad legs and a thick waist (which she often ignores when choosing outfits(, but she’s slim with a very pretty face and her overall appearance is much better than most middle aged woman with two kids, even the ones with time and money.

There's probably a gap of twenty years between the two pics of her that R244 has posted. Everyone's face changes in that time. The nose has likely had work done but as R248 says, the rest is grooming.

Meghan looks more Filipina than black, and more like Audrey Hepburn than something anyone in a klan would have a beef with. Her mom looks Asian.

I did not know Meghan was mixed-race until I was told so. I thought she was just brunette. But I think that mixed-race people can identify each other more easily than white people like me can.

She's 75% white.

She's only slim now because of Ozempic.

Remember the red gown debacle?

That dress didn't flatter her at all but it's a tricky one. It would have to be fitted perfectly for the bosom not to look strange. And we all know Meghan doesn't go for fittings.

Markle spray tans herself to look darker.

R254, she had the CH team com to her house to fit it. That is rare. Fittings don't usually take place at clients' homes.

She's had several nosejobs.

Meghan looks like a Kardashian. At a quick glance you would think they're the same person.

Meghan uses fillers and injectibles to unsquare her jaw and change the shape of her nose. She never looks the same three weeks running. Multiple sets of veneers.

R256 yet her natural nose is half the size of Katherine Mcphees. Discrimination of racism please. She's only the victim of pretty privilege.

[quote]Meghan looks like a Kardashian.

Markle has a thick waist but not a giant ass like Kum Kardashian.

The Markles are douchebags. Lying fucking grifters. Arrogant Harry needs a punch in the face.

Amazingly, this is her in a film role where she played a supermodel.

Guess they didn't have much of a budget.

My guess is that it was a horror movie

Buh Bye Klan Grannies !

Meghan is going to be so much more interesting once they divorce. I will be interested in seeing how she re-fashions herself then.

She'll do an Angelina; Harry has a temper, swore in front of the kids etc etc ^^^^

Is this the look she was inspired by for her Jamaica outfit?

wow r267 what a great photo shoot! Claudia was so spectacular in the 90’s

Saying Meghan looks better than most mothers her age is damning with faint praise. Her fans call her gorgeous, but she has never been higher than an LA office 7 at her zenith, and that is being generous. I don't know why it is so difficult to admit she looks quite ordinary. Angelina and Halle seem to be cut from the same crazy, pathological cloth as Meghan, but they were insanely beautiful at their heights (Halle is still very attractive). Both have 'IT' in spades, despite their wretched personalities.

Meghan has nothing but ambition. She is five-foot nothing with chicken legs, nearly crossed eyes, a terrible profile and she is aging poorly (probably due to Ozempic). There a million Meghans, which is why she never caught fire. Even her diabolicalness is boring.

So now it seems the two morons aren't going to the Super Bowl. Makes me think that they weren't invited in the first place, or the accommodations they were offered weren't grand enough for Megdusa.

Who would want them in theeir box? Who would want to offer them their jet? All cameras will be on Taylor Swift. They can't compete in any way, they probably know it. They're non-entities is that arena, as they are in most.

Mon, Feb 12, 2024.

King Charles told to 'apologise' to Prince Harry as Duke 'feels like the victim'.

[quote]King Charles told to 'apologise'

The King doesn't take orders from Meghan.

[QUOTE]Meghan looks more Filipina than black, and more like Audrey Hepburn than something anyone in a klan would have a beef with. Her mom looks Asian.

Mr. Magoo has entered the conversation.

You cultic Klan Grannies fanatically promote your Circus but demand we not laugh at your Clowns.

Yes R275, you’ve used this meme before. You’re getting confused. Again.

Put down the crack pipe and pour yourself another cheap vodka, then go lie down.

^Put it on block.Your engaging is not helpful.

Someone posted this on another "royal " thread . Thought it worth repeating even though you batshit crazy fraus won't understand a word:

People who develop a hatred of others they have never, and will never meet, and only know about the people or person what they see in the media or from others on social media are screwed up in the head.

OP I think you are one of those people. You and all others who do this are the sorts of people who only believe what you want to believe.

More repetition from KGT.

Yeah, Claudia looks amazing in that shoot, r268. When people were still allowed to be fun and gorgeous and sexy and life was for living. Unlike now, when everything is one, big, whining, depressing, puritan moan.

r278 Well that has interesting implications for people who criticise or loathe particular politicians because the criteria you outlined would apply to critics of any senator or Trump criticise as most have never met the senators or Trump. Humanity has always had an iconoclastic streak, were they want to knock down people who put themselves on pedestals. . You are asking people to have no feelings or opinions on Meghan and Harry's behaviour even their public behaviour. Yet Harry and Meghan did not want us to have no opinion or feelings when they wrote Spare or gave their Oprah interview. Quite the opposite, they wanted us to have an opinion that they were victims and wanted us to have negative feelings towards the royal family- who are also people most have never met in person. Your argument is flawed. A glance at twitter will reveal many people who tag themselves Susssex squad full of hatred and bile for members of the Royal Family- people they also have never met.

R281 If you can't comprehend the difference between loathing a politician for their political positions which can directly effect your quality of life and your obsessive insane hatred for a couple who have absolutely ZERO impact on your existence . Then you are the deranged old scouser we all know you to be.

r282 And the Susssex stans loathing hatred of the royals they've never met?? You avoided that one. So you don't believe any celebrities should be criticised then by people who have not met them??

r282 The Harkles have political positions that affect other people's lives eg Harry's declaration that freedom speech protected ammendment is bonkers.

^Time for your Pimm's cup and bed klan gran.

R285 now trying to make “klan gran” happen when “Klan Granny” failed to launch.

r282 Can non Americans loathe and despise Trump for his domestic policies which don't affect them??

Given you signed as surviving anal I know that you as a poster have criticised and loathed celebrities you've never met in other posts so let's be honest your argument is hypocritical and disingenuous.

R277 I also have it on block. It’s not normal.

This is the guy who called the First Amendment bonkers...he'd love to muzzle the press, social media, people commenting on online news articles so that we are as in thrall to The Box AKA Chicken Legs as he is.

The First Amendment gives Harry the right to voice his stupid ideas, but realistically he's no threat to suppressing speech. Or if he is, it's a minor one compared to what's happening in state legislatures.

Your dislike of Harry does not have to be justified by pretending he's a serious threat to democracy. Not when Trump is around, and Harry can barelly put down his bong.

For those of you dolts who think that an irrelevant British royal has any influence on the Constitution of United States of America.

Google: American Revolutionary War

What is the "constitution" thang ?Must not be important because we don't have one.

Huh? Harold's minions have harrassed, doxxed, gone to places of work, and gotten people thrown off of social media. The mission of his official PR is to diminish those he considers beneath him, twist reality and lie lie lie. He proudly supports his scummy stans while moaning about anyone who dares criticize him, and wrote a whole book filled with "his truth." It is his "mission" to shut down the gossip rags yet on opposite days he depends on them to push his little projects. Harold is a hypocrite and realistically spends a lot of his time trying to push people around.

His name is Harry Mountbatten-Windsor

Let's get it right people

Henry Sussex now

Markle's Lemonada podcasts will fail there too. She's a lying fucking BORING grifter who knows nothing about podcasting. And she won't do there work. Markle will do what she does all the time: Take lemonade and turn it into a a big fat lemon.

Besides, she got the new gig from Harry's publishing company, Penquin, which has some book-reading club on Lemonada, which is doing this as a favor--not because they want Markle.

Supposedly, the Markles changed their kids' names Archie and Lilibet Sussex. They have dropped the Montbatten-Windsor.

Hmm, I didn't know in America you could just drop your surname and add something else. Once again, lying fucking grifters. They are doing it to make money on their new, rebranded website.

The Duke of Sussex is only trying to push YOU around R293 . Check under your bed.

R287 You may never tire of flaunting your senility but it bores the hell out of everyone else.

[QUOTE]She's a lying fucking BORING grifter who knows nothing about podcasting. And she won't do there work. Markle will do what she does all the time: Take lemonade and turn it into a a big fat lemon.

Boring is precisely her problem. She has no charisma and has brought nothing to the equation for a cause with any empathy or gravitas. Her stab at filling the charisma vacuum was well in evidence at Uvalde when she barged in with a sandwich tray and camera crew. I really don't think that counts as "content creation."

Times gone by...

Link below is to a clip showing the guests arriving at the wedding of Zara Phillips and Mike Tindall in Scotland on July 30, 2011.

This was 3 months after the wedding of Catherine Middleton and Prince William on April 29, 2011.

At approximately the 3:15 mark in the video, the car arrives carrying William, Kate, and Harry. William and Kate in the back seat. Harry next to the driver in the front seat.

It's sad to watch the obviously close relationship with the 3, given how things stand right now. The interaction between Kate and Harry, in particular. After the 3 enter the church, the camera photographs them just inside beyond the doorway. You can see Kate pat Harry on the shoulder. A kind, affectionate gesture.

Given Mr and Mrs Harry's subsequent claims over the past few years, this video briefly shows a completely different kind of relationship.

Sad. I can't help but wonder what Harry thinks of those times now.

Arch and Lilbet are both Sussex and Mountbatten-Windsor, just like William and Harry were William Wales and Henry Wales when growing up as the children of the then Prince of Wales, and George, Charlotte and Louis use the surname Wales at school. Of course, this in the context of the UK where titles like the Prince of Wales and Duke of Sussex have meaning, so who knows what the fuck is going on in Harry's mind

The average adult who goes home to see a parent who has just been diagnosed with cancer does not turn tail after one snub. The average adult in that situation (who does not have to rush back to work for fear of losing a job), goes to help and has the intention of being around, not only for the sick person but for the other relatives devastated by the news, for as long as s/he can. If there has been prior acrimony, one might expect to have to stay a bit longer to show one's intentions are honourable.

What the average adult does NOT do is (a) tell the press, attracting attention to himself and also making the illness look urgent; (b) bitch publicly about accommodation; or (c) withdraw affection when snubbed by someone who is under immense stress. (Diagnosis is probably the worst part psychologically, especially if the prognosis isn't great from the start.)

The whole episode was definitely not a demonstration of filial affection.

Lemonada better not be holding their breath for any new content from Madam Carparkle. Everyone knows Duchess Do-Nothing is averse to actual work.

^ This is an English language website we do not speak Deranger.

The title is a legal name because the title is granted under Letters Patent, which has the same legal standing as statute law. So the spare and that wife can legally call themselves Sussex as a surname.

Children hold courtesy titles. There is no legal standing. Courtesy titles are recognized to the extent they are used by the person allowed the courtesy but the legal surname is the family name, not the title name. Look at the birth certificate: he's called Mountbatten-Windsor because he was born a commoner.

Willliam's children were listed on their birth certificates as of Cambridge, because the Queen issued a Letters Patent making William's children princes and princesses and HRHs from birth, he being heir to the heir. The Sussexes children only became Princes and Princesses after the accession of their grandfather. So now, they might actually be able to use Sussex as a legal surname?

Does any of that apply in the US, r306?

You can find both birth certificates easily through Google images. R306, I would guess your legal name in the country of your birth is what is on your passport, you're stuck with it in other countries, as it is the legal document issued by your home country to identify you. (I think celebrities who are, i.e. Bob Smith, often have passports that list them as Bob Smith AKA Bob Star.) The law is that Americans holding foreign titles from a foreign government cannot use those titles officially in the U.S. But if you get one through marriage you can use those titles informally (Princess Lee Radziwill.) It's notable that on Archie's birth certificate (in the UK) the mother is named as HRH Duchess of Sussex, princess of the United Kingdom, whereas on the daughter's birth certificate, she born in the U.S., the mother's normal American names are used. They are both called Mountbatten-Windsor on their birth certificates so (guessing, but logically) they would have to legally change their surnames to Sussex. Presumably both kids have dual citizenship so that gets them access to the courts.

Meghan's name is Rachel on both her kids' birth certificates.

Harry doesn't even have any names on Lilibet's birth certificate.

" who knows what the fuck is going on in Harry's mind"

R302 At least he has one .

Harry's surname is Mountbatten-Windsor; Queen Elizabeth II established that as the surname of her family years ago, to honor Prince Philip. Members of the royal family are often called by their title, or that of their father, as in "Henry Wales" or "George Cambridge," but this is not their legal surname, but it is a custom. I think it's time people acknowledge what is before our eyes: despite their cries of "compassion" and "family," Harry and Meghan do not SHOW compassion -- to either of their fathers or Harry's step-mother or to their siblings. In fact, they don't even show RESPECT, particularly of their privacy. Although Harry is not without guilt in this, clearly Meghan has the ability to isolate Harry from his loved ones, as she similarly drops her loved ones. Neither of them are on good terms with anyone in their immediate family, except Meghan's mother. My guess is that she cultivates Doria just to show she is not on bad terms with simply everybody.

I think the family name should be Suckadick, as a sweet nod to Sussex.

Russia's tremendous grocery stores have convinced Tucks to become "radicalized against our leaders" because Russians have it so much better. Love the community note attached.

R311, she hangs onto Doria so she can claim racism. If Doria were white, she'd be ditched, too. And apparently Doria only rode with her in the car for the first part of the journey to the wedding ceremony. Megdusa turned up at the chapel on her own. Must have turfed Doria our at some point. Doria should have bitchslapped her for that move. And many others.