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And finally wishing nothing but sadness, impotence, melanoma and continued hair loss and crusty lips for a certain old man

Joe just posted

1 week down 13 to go

Where does that take us to……..looking on a calendar

He’s doing the whole run? Amazing

Until the end of the run. May

Fantastic news

That doesn’t mean he will do them all. How dumb are Joe stans?

R9 If you like - but why would he post that ?

R10 It's the Bash troll who doesn't understand actors who are employed. Ignore.

The chances of never missing a show in 13 weeks is slim but he's scheduled to do the whole run.

I mean he obviously might take some shows off. It happens all the time, but he’s literally saying he’s scheduled until the end of the run. Thats how time works

Side eye

R13 thought he was too problematic for her so she only stanned Kit, Will, and Yaz, the latter two of whom she never mentions? Saying the most problematic one is the most outspoken political person in the cast except maybe Kizzy really shows the issue with Gen Z politics. Better to say nothing and thus never do anything wrong than to be on the right side 99.9% of the time and be slaughtered for liking and immediately unliking a Zionist dogwhistle once (donated to Gaza and signed for ceasefire before it was popular), or blocking someone who harassed you and your boyfriend for months and being called problematic for it

R13 Is this the person who said she wasn't a Joe fan or something. I recall the name but don't recall what she did

All these people who never gave a shit about him are suddenly caring because Kit's being hot in private and not in public

R15 Yeah, she said she doesn't stan him and was being weird about him in her CC. Deleted a couple of times after being called out. Runs a Kit update page.

R14 Nm I remember her now. This cunt

Only Joe stans would have a problem with this lmao. She’s supporting him by paying to see the show and y’all are complaining.

Eh, she’s updated her stan list card to include Joe. Change of heart clearly (I don’t really believe this and she’ll just on the next reason to shitcan him immediately).

How do you manage to fuck up both names?

R20 their curse

Has anyone seen Sunrise yet? It’s getting trashed, but I could suffer through it for Will if anyone recommends it.

R32 I didn't realize that it had already been released. Did Will even post about the release?

Didn’t even realise it was out.

R23 tbh that one article where he spoke about stereotypes and how the industry views Asian characters didn’t make it sound like he loved the experience

Nope. Apparently had a limited release on the 19th and now available to purchase on several streaming services.

R24 Yeah, was going to say the same. He’s clearly more enthusiastic and excited about the tour.

So if Joes so good at manifesting, then Met Gala??? I think for sure Kit bc Loewe is hosting but thinking more and more maybe Joe bc of his power of manifesting! It’s literally the day after his last ST show!!

That’s fab that Joe gets to do the run ‘till the end. I wonder if it will be a case of, doing the show, hs3 promo with Kit in NY and then London Pride and more promo (and whenever the release is)

I think cause the strikes aren’t around they’ll try to get as much out of them as possible!

R27 if he and Kit show up to the met gala and get pictures together I’ll never shut up.

In all seriousness I think his next big manifesting is a darker more dramatic role, probably in a film

R27 wouldn’t expect Joe at the Met. He’s doesn’t have an established relationship with a house and isn’t a big enough name this year. It’s definitely in his future

R27 Didn’t even think about this! The two of them there would be amazing I’m sure and he’d be able to go if not too tired/flying straight back to IOM.

I am still reading ST as Stranger Things rather than Sweeney Todd lol

R30 Not thinking he will, but Marvel could send him

R32 not really how it works but I’m just being a dream crusher so I’ll STFU

Kit jfc so hot. Tobie also looks great but I want to watch Kit and Joe fuck asap.

R34 hard launch

R36 Basically. They look hot.

The crop. Poor Jodie

Jodi commenting that she didn’t approve the picture is killing me.

Kobie Truther - you’re winning mate

I love every combo of the guys but I need them to get their asses to NY and expand to a throuple or something because someone needs to rescue Joe.

R38 Prob for the best with these freak Kit antis floating around.

R39 she looks great (she always does when she pops up for me) but it’s a teeny bit of her face.

R42 just sent me. I agree

For those concerned about joes comments, he commented “daddies” on it

Seeing how insanely fucking hot Kit is and then seeing the Fossil...

IMO, Tobie is also hotter than the Fossil.

R45 can we please not mention him unless there’s something new to report? Not policing the thread, just trying not to vomit up my lunch

R35 Tobie looks smug. As he should

R44 yeah, I felt the reaction to him not commenting was not it yet. Guy has been busy

R45 That's an insult to Tobie. Tobie is very cute.s Eustace Bagge is fucking hideous

Second time I’ve noticed that Oliver Jackson-Cohen’s liked a Kit post pretty quickly.

That picture is so hot and husbandy

That's it. I'm becoming a Kobie truther as well.

R46 seconded.

They had a fight over Manu. That's why Tobie didn't like some Kit stuff, now they have made up up and Kit hard launched the relationship to show his devotion

I need to make a twitter account and find some true believers

I keep going back to stare at Kit in that picture. He’s so fucking hot.

200k likes in 20 minutes is crazy.

R50 I've been wondering if they're working on something ever since they followed each other

R54 mate do it. You can start fan wars with Amber

R55 can’t stop looking at it. The way he goes from smoulder in some photos to wide eyed hottie like this is wild. Beautiful man

R41 Kit and Tobie don’t want to hang out with a 40 year old creep.

R54 Also Kit posting new years in Feb. New year, new relationship . It's all coming together. I trust in my investigative skills

Genuinely wouldn’t be surprised at this point

Pouring one out for the first personal post that doesn't include Joe in God knows how long.

R60 right. I’d love Kit and Joe to fuck but it’s heading towards homophobia in the way there are no genuine rumours about Kit and Tobie. Just got a message from mate who asked about Joe and Kit’s status because of the last photos, and he’s convinced this is a genuine hard launch. Barely knows who Tobie is

R62 don’t think it’s homophobia re kit and Tobie, frankly think it’s the fairly fucked idea that Kit wouldn’t be into a bigger guy. Maybe he’s not, types are a thing, but that’s a personal preference thing and not that bigger guys aren’t hot.

The bashfulness is really cute

R44 As he should ‘cause he correct.

R63 see your point. Either way, that there are no rumours about them is bullshit. I don’t believe it just yet but I’m happy to live in the fantasy

Sorry boys. Love kit and Tobie but I’m a simple guy and Joe and Kit hits for me. And I maintain lovingly taken solo photos and photo dumps that don’t include you of wistful candids and soft smiles from a hot little twink are more coupley than this selfie. But Kit Tobie and Joe could make all this easier on us and just throuple up

R67 We can have a ship war if you insist

R67 Joe is literally fucking someone else. Leave Kit and Tobie alone.

R67 I’m with you there, Joe and Kit do it more for me too but the three of them are just… yes. I do love his instant comment and the comment itself, a good distraction!

More, please?

R68 We could have a war of pictures and gifs because oh noooo that would be terrible…

He's apparently walking around NY. Don't ask if he's with someone Amber I don't want to know.

R72 agreed. No more asking - what if someone says his Dad (I’m so sorry)

The Wild Robot producer liked his post pretty quickly, too.

R73 I was gonna say something along the lines of as long as it’s his Daddies meaning Kit and Tobie and then I heaved at how bad that sounds

R74 cannot wait for this announcement

Speaking of animated things, I’m still intrigued by the random mention of Joe in connection to the Sea Beast 2. Wonder if anything is coming of that?

For the Kobie Krowd.

R78 the person in the replies saying yeah they fucked sent me

R79 she was part of some drama the other day. There is a very small section of hstwt that is always shading each other and fighting. I’ve only just discovered them and they appear to hate Maia (and maybe Tobie actually) and are generally cunts. There was a gaylor who’s had to go priv. I was trying to keep up because I was bored but no one directly mentions anyone. It’s a little pocket of wilding

R80 oh, fuck her then. No need to be vile about Maia or Tobie: they’re both very nice

R78 I do find it a little funny that a tweet like this about Joe and Kit would get like 30 tweets about how shocking and disgusting it is that JoeKit shippers exist. I agree that on some level, it's people not seeing Tobie as a genuine option for Kit OR Joe, so they don't take any Tobie shipping seriously.

Anyway, Jodie seems so cool and I'm almost certain she'd come with Tobie to see Sweeney.

Why are some fans in this fandom like this?

R83 Joe Kit weirdo who is starting to think Kobie is real. Just be like the Amber cult and say he didn't make the post in Jan because he was too busy in NY with Joe and will be back by Valentines. Just go out with your delusions and don't get upset

R81 sorry - to be clear I think she specifically is a Kobie (enjoying this) It was another group that were being cunts about Tobie but she was being a dick too. Sorry the drama is really vague but I’m seeing it a bit. It’s mostly clear when they are shading Maia which I don’t mention a lot. Tobie shading is new

R82 think she’s got a 9 to 5

R84 They should go with Kit knowing Joe had the day off and posting it as a bat signal to remind him what he's missing, Tobie included for bonus throuple points. And it worked! Joe truly came running with that Daddies comment.

R86 Kit basically hasn’t reacted to a comment on his posts in ages but I really wish with one. Joe needs the reminder of how much he enjoys these men. That’s all I’ll say on that

R85 Yeah, she works at Charlotte Tilbury according to her tags

R86 They aren't even good at being delusional.

He has such an animated little face.

Vicky can be versatile lol

R89 That’s so sweet.

A lot of the fandom seem shady towards one another but I did notice that weird little specific group too, didn’t pay it any attention though

LMAO

Lmao. The way Kit can’t even post a picture with Tobie without Joe stans making it about Joe.

R92 Feels like some fans are mad Kit and Tobie are friends but they’ve been friends since season 1. I don’t see them act like this when Joe and Tobie are together.

R92 I only noticed them because they flip flop on Joe and some seem to be friends with dodgy Rosie the second (which presumably means she too is quietly a cunt about Maia - that seems to be the uniting factor). HS just has the absolute worst fans

R95 I’m not gonna lie to you, I think they think Tobie and Joe are both bottoms and wouldn’t be into each other

That first picture. God he’s fucking CUTE

Joe actually posted a picture of him and Tobie kissing at Halloween, and they were wearing matching costumes.

But Kobie is the superior ship, so I’m all for the fandom going nuts over this.

R99 now you can ship Kobie all you like but let’s not lie about the apex and let’s be real here. Only one ship and gif is getting its own post from other DLers asking why we’re so obsessed with it.

R99 If it ends up being true (Kit and Tobie fucking), I need them to be careful. Don’t want another Bash situation.

R96 Possibly unfair of me to assume this is about Joe, but I don't think they've seen the fossil. It'd probably be everywhere if so.

Not a ship war here? Hilarious

R102 almost certain that’s about Tobie. Coincided with his post and Kit’s comment. This is the group that are cunty as fuck

R102 no way it’s about either Joe or the fossil. Honestly no clue who it’s about but there’s no way they’ve seen the latter and she’s tweeted about Joe looking hot before

R103 Wow, you might be right. Kit's post today is doubly good, then.

Third pic went platinum in this place because of Joe being lifted from the ground like a princess. Not too long after his birthday dinner, either!

R105 Princess Joe is the funniest canon because every time they’re all together everyone is doting on him. Iconic twink

Hilarious. Tobie looks hotter than ever. They’re mad he gets to cuddle up with Kit.

How is this their reaction to a cute arse photo of Tobie, Kit (and Jodie’s pout). Hate using the word delusional because the dumbest fucks on Twitter use it but this truly is.

It’s so weird to me that they’re dying on this hill because all else aside even if you’re not attracted to him Tobie definitely isn’t ugly? I’m more into Joe and Kit though I think to be fair they’re genetically gifted to a crazy degree. But if any of my friends brought someone who looked like Tobie around I would think not a bad catch. Then you add what seems like a truly excellent personality and sense of humour and chat; I’m sure he’s adventurous in bed. He’s a catch

Tobie also has a nice ass and good rhythm. Noticed that at Pride.

R109 I agree with you, the dislike towards KitTobie sounds fatphobic as fuck tbh (although I’d hardly call him fat anymore) I too would proved JoeKit or a throuple but if they announced they were dating I would love that too.

The Bash shade lol

R108 Look at your people JoeKit shippers. That's why Kobie is superior

R112 I don’t get “became American”

R113 while I’m enjoying you, you’re not about to flip are you?

R113 we don’t claim them! Cursed alien has supported kittobie before all demographics have their psychos

R115 think they’re funny and mostly poking fun but if this turns into another Joe anti situation…

R115 I'm just shitposting. I actually the original Jobie true believer. RIP

The Amber cult gives me hives though.

R115 While you two are fighting, I’m waiting on KitWill to make a comeback.

R116 The longest con in the world, 2 years of paying to thirst over Joe's ass to become an anti. Bash frau could never.

And I thought we were having a fake shipware R100 R103

R114 Bash became American somehow? The only person I can think of

R111 The thing is, they would never announce it. Kit and Maia never announced it and Bash and Joe either.

T119 Where’s the resident JoeTobie?!

I’m the throuple thru ther mostly of quadrupole if we include Will.

R122 Typing with the Sun in my eyes rip

R122 They can fuck him at the same time. And go to New York and send Mr. Burns back to London

R102 No, it’s definitely about Crypt Keeper. Check the timestamp, it’s from when DL first started discussing him and you know all the HSTWT girlies get their info from here. I saw her and another one of her weird friends tweeting about him vaguely.

R119 oh as the joekit person involved I’m definitely kidding. sadly don’t think any of the guys are dating but would welcome any of them as couples

R125 there’s no way she knows who it is.

Eiffel Tower.

R126 Yeah, don’t think she knows his name or anything, but I think she/her friends know of his existence in relation to Joe. Tbh I’d rather it stay that way instead of in the twt tags. Gatekeeping sucks (saying this as a sad fucker who also isn’t privy to that Reddit), but I don’t want a Lego 2.0 situation where people are spamming his Instagram about Joe. Fucking gross.

R126 Could be just taking our words for it?

I haven’t seen it and I believe y’all.

R126 The great DL ship war of 2024 should end with a treesome. Truly the only way to peace

R129 it’s a weird way to word it though if she’s never seen him. And frankly shitty her first take would be oh he’s ugly rather than oh he’s predatory

R126 I also saw someone tweet “I’m not going to comment on it but…” or something along those lines about an hour after you guys first mentioned him here, nobody had commented on the Instagram being made private yet at that point.

R132 people can differ here but I’ll say I’d be very surprised if any Twitter fans figured out who it was and leave it at that

R131 Yeah, If all they are taking from this situation is that he's ugly they are kinda missing the point, but it's twitter so I don't expect much from them.

R133 Feel like if any of them actually knew, they’d be making vague tweets about it daily for clout instead of just bitching in their CCs but I digress.

R106 I don't know how to word this without coming off like infantilizing Joe or like the cast infantilizes Joe. But things like the doting, or clearly finding him adorable, or even just the way some of them talk about him IRL or on social media, you really get the vibe that Joe is very darling to them. Even just the recent Broadway reactions had that vibe.

For me, that made the fossil stuff even more jarring. I'd be reading about it seconds after seeing a castmate refer to him as little Joe Joe or something. Again, not saying they baby him, but it gives me whiplash and will probably continue to do so if we get any content of them visiting NYC.

R136 no it’s been said here before, that kit and tobie and will but especially kit all find him really fucking cute and seem to enjoy “babying” him a bit.

R136 Not coming off as treating him like a child at all, I get that you’re saying. It’s very jarring and makes the previous Tobias actor’s comments seem more than just excitement and fondness for Joe.

It will be interesting when his husbands visit, I have a bad feeling that they don’t really know the extent of it. (Neither do we tbh)

R136 and forgot to add, I think part of that is that even from what we’ve seen his reactions to being treated well are really fucking endearing. He is really smiley and touched by gifts, blushes and stutters over compliments, and is just generally very fucking cute. If we all have cute aggression via the internet it must be off the charts irl

R136 I get you, he's very endearing and they are protective of him. Like daniel marconi (who I guess is in his late 20's) calling him a very very special boy. He wasn't treating Joe like a kid, but talking what a wonderful and talented person is he. Kinda feel a lot of people have that reaction to meeting him. Unfortunately there's always going to be creeps around. I know he's smart and mature, but do worry about him sometimes in that industry.

I also think a lot of how they treat them is that Joe puts on an excellent face in public but they see the other side. Like Joe basically ran through the online bullying he got in GQ and basically said “all cured” while he clearly still has a lot of insecurities about his looks. People overall thought he looked ok on the float (opinions varied, I thought he looked miserable but) but the entire cast checked on him and held him so much it’s clear they picked up a different vibe. Makes sense to be more protective of that

R133 It’s very possible they know who he is (what he looks like) if they were the ones sitting row 4 last night. A lot of them were there opening night and apparently Joe looked at someone with starry eyes.

Laughing.

You guys super get me, thank you. It's both fun and cathartic here, isn't it?

R141 Absolutely, and I'd bet London Pride added to that protectiveness as well.

So I’m the one who asked if Kobie Stan would flip. Thought it was obviously a joke?

Those teens have no idea what Ebenezer looks like. They know we’re talking about him but if half of us didn’t get in early enough to figure it out they have no idea. I’m really 98% sure that was about Tobie. It was absolutely when hstwt were all tweeting about how hot he is.

R143 Are they fucking with us?

R146 100%.

R145 yeah I tend to think she thinks she’s “telling it like it is” about Tobie. If she somehow saw the dinosaur I could see something like a “omfg whyyyy is he so ugly” but that wording is basically her vague tweeting disagreement with people. Bitchy as fuck

R143 Damn it. I almost hate when they make that type of joke because then I’m like oh it isn’t actually happening :/

R143 Kissing like husbands on NYE

Still sends me Jodi is there in the corner

R142 He was there last night too?

R146 I think so. I feel like Tobie has seen something on Twitter and couldn’t resist haha

R142 Please don’t.

R148 Tbf they could have kissed but that comment reduces the chances they are actually a thing lol

R146 Tobie might have seen R78, just like that time he liked the tweet asking if he and Joe were dating. This cast really takes it all in stride, it's funny. Though one day it may very well be a "Give them the truth but pretend you're kidding" thing.

R142 ngl they’re not smart enough for all that

R153 That’s so funny. Tobie loves chaos.

I like how relax the cast is about shipping jokes etc, it worried me though when people genuinely start ship wars on Twitter and it’s like we’re in a room and I’m like fucking keep your voices down! Because I want this kind of banter to continue.

Not to police (I am) but can we not sign post more clues. I’ve come up full stumps and it’s better that way. The stans there the other night are actually Joe stans so I doubt they’ll drop him in a drama. Too thrilled to meet him

We keep going back to chatting about Dracula, let’s go back to talking about the guys.

R158 Do you guys think Kit forgot to caption the photodump with the Joe bookends? Or was he just being a sap and letting the photos speak for themselves.

R44 I’ll check ao3 in a month

Look at his little clapping choreo

R159 That’s a great caption ngl but I think he was just letting them speak for themselves, we all know he’s cute, he doesn’t need to tell us.

R161 It makes me chuckle, it’s like he’s doing a crocodile impression or something haha

R159 maybe he didn’t want to make a boring caption like ‘’friends on film”.

R164 That would be too much of a white girl caption

I did think that was flour all over his jumper but it’s a moth eaten style cardigan, just the flour would have added to the cute mess vibes

Cute aggression towards both of them here

R164 Tobie said the pictures of him were from summer and the other ones looked like they could be earlier in S3's production, so maybe Kit is just being super delayed with these recent uploads. If he wants to do an Elton lunch photodump months later, though, who among us would complain.

R167 Back in my day, people would have to manipulate the hell out of cast photos to pretend their faves were being cute together over Skype or some archaic equivalent. Joe and Kit have Zoom interviews with attentive heart eyes.

Maia liked Kit’s post. She might be top 1 best ex. I would put OF as number 2.

Does anyone know what Joe would be getting paid in st?

Netflix is promoting the show through the hiatus randomly again.

R172 I hope they post something for Valentine's Day.

Tobie clarifying the status in his stories. Disappointed for all

R171 Minimum wage is 2.5k a week, so more than that.

R171 Some leads make 9k a week so maybe half of that? I don’t think Joe is making banks with this role. It’s more for the experience.

Doubt he’s really considering the income tbh. He’s financially good for a couple of years (if he’s smart) and the way this sets up his career prospects is priceless. The more mediums he can get employed in the better for him.

R174 Kit was friendzoned. A tragic day

R176 probably more than 5k a week but not 10k ,which is sort of the average. he does have first billing atm but not above the title billing

winning over the haters

R174 Tobie claiming Kit as his bestie and not Joe. Sad for Joe.

R177 Let’s say he makes 7k a week so for 13 wks=91k. Minus maybe 4k a month for living expenses (he’s in manhattan) = 79k. Minus 20% for his agents = 60k and let’s say he has to pay 20% taxes bc he’s working in the USA= 45-50k. It’s not a lot but still some people’s yearly salary.

Noah Schnapp is still up in Kit's likes. Loser.

Never stood a chance, even less so now

R182 I bet he’s gonna beg Netflix for season 3 premiere invite

Realize I'm a flop and didn't post what the last thread was

Never too late

Since it came up in the last thread, apparently Phoebe Bridgers unfollowed Paul and Daisy on Insta today. Maybe among other people since she wiped her account like a lot of artists are doing ahead of new releases lately.

R186 weird timing considering it all. Well, now if Taylor’s album gets Paul dragged which feels even more likely, I really won’t feel too bad if his fans bring in cheating timeline receipts

That voice

R186 Looks like he unfollowed her too, that or one of them blocked the other. She still follows Nell, though.

R188 Beautiful

R187 Taylor acts like a teenager and she’s in her 30s. No wonder Phoebe’s friend with her.

R188 The people who went again said he got better. Sounds like it. Not that he needed the improvement, so it's pretty astonishing.

Alright, which one of you is this?

R193 A man of culture (not me even if I joked I would)

Kit didn't let that comment slide

R193 Kobie Truther if this is you I’m obsessed with you

Hoping Kit stays active long enough so that he posts if/when they go see Joe in ST. Though judging by the lag in his posts, he'd wind up posting about it 3 months later.

R196 I think he'll post it and hype him up if he's able to go. Maybe not on his grid but a story, after he leaves the venue of course

I’d guess a story “photodump” after he went back home from NYC and then yeah maybe an actual photodump a few months later

They’re going to go on the most random day

Joe's comment on Olivia's post. How long have they been friends?

R200 they met after her concert (along with bash) in summer 2022. Then they hung out late last summer, Lucy was there

Seems like one of those friendships that went 0 to 100 after Marvel jail.

R200 R201 Olivia was living in NYC the entire time Joe was in Atlanta. They didn’t post each other at the time, but considering how he spent time with her when he went to LA with Lucy, when she was in London over the summer, and when he was in NYC auditioning for ST, I think it’s safe to assume they also saw each other on some of his trips to NYC while he was filming Agatha.

R200 Wonder why that comments isn't showing up for me

They probably did meet up more than we know.

R203 What happened with Joe and Bash? Any actual tea? I'm in and out of this place. The last time I was lurking, I saw he replaced Joe with another twink.

R193 I'm a Kobie shipper from now on.... Joekit who?

R205 honestly, no. It’s just fun to shit on Bash still because he has an absolutely unhinged troll here who brings him up all the time. He is entirely irrelevant

R205 That's about it. He and the twink are TikTok influencers now, they do cringey trends and Bash was pushing The Ordinary and trying to get a Chipotle black card recently.

R208 Excuse you, he's booked and busy doing one radio play and a role in a show that filmed for months without him

R208 I've seen on Twitter he apparently does that a lot; rinse and repeat with another twink.

R204 I'm not seeing it either, assuming it's a repeat of the glitch that hid Joe's comment about Kit smacking his ass from me for months.

R210 He's even got the new twink wearing the clothes he had Joe wear. Will be interested in the next twink wearing the same musty jacket. At last he removed the Charlie (character) pin off it

R211 I will never forgive Insta for that

R196 Kit posted his NYC/DC posts not too long after he and Joe returned home, though those posts also functioned as promo for S2.

For Olivia and Joe, I've lowkey suspected they may have bonded more after Joe's break-up. Totally baseless, Olivia just seems like someone who would totally get that need for catharsis.

R212 Charlie is the new guy's name? He's cute but he looks a little too generic.

R215 save Charlie

I’m so so sorry to this person who is probably very nice but every time someone comes to the threads asking for a TLDR and a catchup on the Joe bash breakup my mind goes to Fraulein who’s done this twice

R217 this would be another long con as they’ve been posting about Joe for two days but we all know what you’re saying. Sorry to matey if you’re normal but I can’t see your history past yesterday

This dumb shit is so annoying

I see a lot of concerns in this thread that when we worry about Joe or Kit, or call Joe adorable, we sound frauish. Thankfully bash fans are always here to remind us how much worse it could be.

R219 Those comments are so typical. He's made the same one sort of to Aubrey before and daddy has been said about a dozen times. Low effort. Sorry Joe. Why are they shocked. Seriously wish he'd actually say something semi-shocking (to them) like how he likes his ass eaten or something.

R221 if Joe had replied “come eat it then” to Kit after he commented on joes ass in the Italy pics I would have needed to leave DL and live in the blissful delusion that they were fucking.

But good to have Joe confirm the impact play link we all knew he had (the smack my ass like a drum comment)

R220 That's one haggard sunshine boy. When they breakup in 6-12 months she's gonna act like she knew all along and never cared like how she said she never cared about Joe and Bash dating.

R220 They did that to Kit when he used to make a lot of comments on Will and Tobie’s posts. Dunno what’s their problem.

R220 What the actual fuck did you just make me read?

R218 No worries. Long time lurker. The sugar daddy situation made me sign up.

Not fraulein traumatizing some of you lol I get it.

The nitpicking. Like no shit he’s not an incredible drummer? They gave him a few lessons for S1 and none for S2. They should try acting or singing like him

R215 I need you to be oh so serious. R207 Rent. Free.

R228 If he cared about his role or this show, he would have practiced more. Kit practiced his french and he sounded good. Anyway.

Fraulein go back to crying over your precious sunshine and sunflower

R226 love a gay lurker paying Muriel tbh. Particularly as you basically can’t post anywhere on DL without paying now. Some a wary because as you will see we have a couple of absolutely wild trolls. One catfished the thread for months pretending to be a new to the show stan, before doing a big Disney villain reveal that she is actually a deranged rage troll who loves Bash. Wild ride

R228 classically trained percussionist don't really play the drums. I bet she plays a mean triangle though

R222 I would have loved this, taken up 2 threads at least talking about it.

I hope it continues I’ve got my cross ready for Dracula.

R234 *it being the flirtatious banter, sorry!

R233 lmao! Seems like she’s just like oooh imma randomly say this to get clout, so quirky!!

Wish I was in the bubble of Joe pride without anything else happening…

R237

R237 I am because I choose to ignore things that don’t suit me. Joe has shown unfortunately a tendency to date men beneath him but also the ability to end things when it is not working out. I think concern and disgust over the age gap and so on is very fair but I am as always rooting for and thrilled for Joe overall

R239 Oh absolutely! Don’t want to sound like everyone else on Twitter but I really do feel that this is his year!

R231 No, thanks. I’m not a frau. You can go back to crying over Joe’s Broadway performance that no one in the cast is going out to see.

R239 I’m choosing to accept ignorance about the things I don’t know. We have reason to believe Joe’s ass is currently receiving the application it deserves. But the fact Joe’s happily baking on both Fleet Street and Bake Off highlights that Joe’s primary focus right now is his career. I refuse to believe this guy is serious. Joe’s found someone he likes fucking, good for him. When the guy gets too annoying, Joe will move on. That’s what Joe’s done with all his previous relationships.

Joe’s magic pussy has left a trail of broken hearts, but Joe’s own heart so far seems well intact. Don’t expect that to change.

R240 the Bake Off thing is a bit of fun, but it is great that he keeps getting not just jobs that he wants but fun shit like that. Industry DL and co, correct me if I’m wrong but Bake Off is actually the work of useless PR and not his agents?

R242 its times like this I really miss starsign guy. He had a whole thing about Joe wanting to be in relationships but not necessarily long term, more for defined eras. It was nonsense but rings a bit true now

R243 I love that he’s getting all his wants even the little niche things, I can’t wait for him to be both cute and hilarious on Bake Off.

R204 I didn't even have to click into the comments to see Joe's comment. It was just sitting there when I went to Olivia's post. Weird.

R246 yeah, I got the ‘smack my arse’ comment back weeks before most people. It really was thought that he’d deleted it

Aghh that pout

R245 I truly do suspect he’ll be all sad orphan eyes about how messy his bakes are when they’re great. Honestly even if he’s bad I’ll just find it insanely cute. Him being the baby of the group is also a good dynamic.

R248 he’s so stupidly cute it makes me angry

R242 I just remembered that Lego’s actually talked in an article about how heartbroken last year left him. Snorted out loud in public setting. No one is safe from the after effects of Joe’s magic pussy

If they do it’s bc they’re laughing at you Crunchy

R251 if they discuss her it’s for Joe and Kit to bitch about how she needs to fucking stop with the coffee breath and thumb things

R248 Hot. Did his big cock rub on Kit or was there something between them?

R251 It never ceases to amaze me how she centers herself in anything the cast does or says. She clearly thinks they secretly stalk her account for all the witty things she and her friends have to say about Kit.

R254 I cringe when I think of the shit she could say to Joe if she meets him at stage door. R253 Definitely something was in place to keep it professional.

R253 sadly if you look very closely Kit seems to have a padding shoved up in jumper

R253 They literally have them wear friction cushioning.

R253 This is for actual nudity but the same idea, don’t think they would have put everything in anything whilst dressed but couldn’t be bothered finding another video lol

R253 Would love to know the direction David gave to Joe and Kit on this scene. “Charlie grinds on Nick’s lap, then tells Nick he isn’t ready either and the two share a tender moment.” lmao

R257 Buzzkill.

R259 It’s not the not being ready for everything that I have a problem with, it’s the dialogue, it made me cringe the whole time. Like yes, this is so embarrassing, Charlie.

R260 I know, I’m sorry.

But in our minds they could both be hard as rocks whilst filming this.

Kit seems to be wearing the bulk of the padding for that scene. Suspect it’s also why he leads how close Joe comes to him (he pulls him in). Regardless, they sell the hell out of it.

R262 they were. It drove the ex into state of irrational mad jealousy which is why he followed them to Brazil like a flying barnacle

R261 Agree, I’m just being a shit. Whomever said that it would’ve made more sense for Nick to be ready since he’s older, but them holding off because of Charlie’s eating disorder/body image issues, I’m with you. At minimum a candid discussion. Not “and if you didn’t ever wanna do it, then I wouldn’t either,” and other batshit dialogue.

R264 also, use of “it” instead of saying sex is fucking crazy. They are a 15 and 17 year old - they’re not afraid to say the word sex bffr. Particularly Nick

R264 I’ve said that a thousand times so thank you for agreeing because it drives me batshit. And since Alice is on her afterschool special grind I also think it’s way more aspirational or whatever to have partners who love and respect each other and put the others well being and health above wanting to fuck than the magical “we are both ready at the exact same moment” thing

R264 Literally they needed was - intense making out - pulling back like shit this is getting intense - You’re not ready? Me neither, okay no pressure - fond smiles, slightly bashful giggles - Wanna cuddle instead? - that frankly cute kissing, cuddling and giggling montage.

I’m petitioning to write Alice’s scripts for season 4, cause it’s that simple.

How are they gonna do the whole thing where they’re ready though?

Obvious time jumps would work yeah but how do you make both of their mindsets change in a way that flows? Because isn’t the beach shortly after Paris?

R268 oh you mean the beach scene where they filmed half a day of Kit ramming Joe’s face into his tits? Yeah, we’re supposed to believe that’s just innocent flirting and they won’t be ready to fuck for another 10 months of something. Stretching believability ngl

R269 IIRC, beach and Nick’s birthday are around the same time, then we delve into Charlie’s inpatient stay (told by diary entries), then once Charlie is discharged home, it’s his birthday, and they begin their horny journey (handjobs, Charlie studying for exams, Nick on his uni tour, carnival, etc) leading up to sex. I’m guessing beach/Nick’s birthday and carnival/them finally fucking will be bookends. Maybe they’ll weave the horniness in from the start of s3, playing on joekit’s chemistry and the s2 reviews saying the lack of frank discussions about sex being unrealistic.

Sorry, that was meant for R268.

Just saying, legal age of consent in UK is 16, so if this is when Nick is 17 and Charlie is still 15 I'm personally not at all surprised Nick feel he needs to stop and wait for Charlie to turn 16. It tends to get drummed into kids here as you can end up on the sex offenders register for life. Not saying there aren't a ton of under 16 having sex, but the age difference makes it problematic as Nick could be charged with statutory rape and I doubt he'd want to risk it however much he might want to.

R272 Nobody is saying otherwise, I am pretty sure it’s after Charlie is 16, only skimmed the comics so I can’t be sure.

It’s just a discussion on how exactly they do the first time convo after they’ve been so prudish about it, that’s totally different if Nick had lines voicing that concern.

Pretty sure Charlie is still 15 in Paris, there's an 18 month age gap - Charlie is young for his year and Nick is old for his. I think they have Charlie's16th not long before they finally start going for it (in the books). It's not something that would get voiced here as it's drummed into people. It's only been 16 since 2000, before that it was 18 for boys. It's like alcohol in US, where I can't believe you can't drink to 21, but underage sex is seen as a big thing here.

R270 Yeah, it's not impossible for them to pepper in more horniness from the outset of S3 but make it more blatant that the main roadblock is Charlie not being entirely in the right headspace. Their kiss on Nick's birthday is pretty heavy, the one after Charlie gives him the photo album and Nick is basically speechless but thanks him with an ILY and then making out in his bed. Before that, he's flustered but doesn't deny it when Charlie asks if Nick likes it when Charlie wears his clothes, so that's another thing that could be horny.

Leaning into the age difference, there's also their reunion makeout in the classroom on the first day of school. Charlie says it's hot that Nick is wearing the tie only older sixth form students get to wear.

Nick is very focused on trying to delicately bring up the eating disorder throughout all of this, beach day included, so it's believable he would be more focused on that than restarting the conversation about being ready for sex.

r265 even sexless sitcom gays had more hornier lines than what Alice writes

R276 much hornier. Alice wouldn’t know innuendo if it smacked her in the face

Random but people kept mentioning Tom Holland alongside Joe yesterday as two kings of manifestation. Today, it was announced that Tom will be starring in a new Romeo & Juliet adaptation on the West End.

I’m so glad he’s doing this. He hasn’t done theatre since he was a kid. He deserves much better projects than he’s done. I wouldn’t have thought of Romeo for him at all but he’s got that sweet arrogance naturally. He could be amazing

Cool Heartstopper connection, Nima edited the text of this production:

[quote]The play features text editing by Nima Taleghani

R280 Nima's story was actually how I found out about it! That's so cool. The cast seems to adore him, wouldn't be surprised if they went to see it for him more than Tom. Conveniently R&J opens about a week after Joe wraps Sweeney Todd.

This essay is very hard on the vocal direction and choices made by some actors in the Les Mis movie, but Samantha Barks is one of the few that gets praised (around the 32-minute mark if you don't want to watch it all). Reminds me of some of the praise for Joe maintaining his breath control even through challenging choreo and blocking. Following in her footsteps indeed.

Gaten Matarazzo liked Joe’s post about ST. That’s sweet

R274 Two years is hardly an age gap. People care about a two year age gap? They’re both teenagers.

R284 Ya some fans make it weird when they only have 1 1/2 age difference. R278 Why are so many people saying it’s unlikely to receive critical acclaim? Am I missing something?

He's with The Reverend Richard Coles, with Sara Cox, and Adam Hills

R286 he’s so tiny

R286 Yeah, I’ve never watched Bake Off (don’t kill me), but the announcement made it sound like the Reverend is their team captain or whatever.

R286 Yikes. He really can't pose properly.

R288 so there’s no team captain, they all compete against one another. Normally it’s a competition over the course of weeks with a theme each week (bread week, biscuit week, etc.) for the celebrity stand up to cancer version, it’s just one episode, three different bakes, and then the winner at the end of each episode. So he’ll be against these three

If you zoom in you can see it looks like he’s got flour and chocolate on his trousers too. He is so fucking cute

R286 what does "later this year" mean?

R291 I seriously need to see the chaos of him baking

And DL removing all blocks and watched threads with a reload is pretty shit

R292 it’ll be in a month or teo most likely: generally comes out in March

Joe followed Allison Hammond on August 6. Doesn’t necessarily mean that’s when he recorded it of course, could just be when he found out, but recording seems most likely given everyone is in pretty light clothing and even his perpetually cold self is in a cardigan

R295 I noticed that the area where Joe had the eyebrow slit is still a little thinner than the rest of his brow in the announcement picture. That matches the thickness of his brows on an IG post from earlier August.

The reverent that faked having HIV is on Joe's team? Yikes.

Answering my own question. Turns out there were haters. I’m sure Tom will be amazing.

Because it makes it illegal. It's like taking a 20 year old to a bar in the USA. I know it's crazy but the authorities take it seriously here. It's fine as long as nobody finds out but you can get into a load of trouble that can follow you for life. They're grammar school boys. They've had to fight the system to get into grammar school and they tend to be more conscious of not breaking the rules. So I totally understand Nick waiting for Charlie to be legal.

Only the top 5% of students make it into grammar school, just for context.

R299 What would be illegal? They’re both 16 when they have sex for the first time, no? In the show, Nick and Charlie aren’t ready.

R301 canonically Nick and Charlie are 15 and 16 when they discuss not being ready and I believe 16 and 18 when they have sex? Maybe 16 and 17. Not who you’re replying to, but I think he was agreeing with the idea that it would’ve been more realistic to have Nick feel ready but absolutely happy to wait for Charlie because he loves him and because Charlie is dealing with body image and mental health issues and anorexia. And then added the dimension that on top of that Nick would be mindful of the age gap, minimal as it is, because the UK drills into you that 16 is a boundary: legal to have sex on one side of it and not the other

When they were in Paris, which is when Charlie is grinding on Nick and Nick tells him to wait, I am pretty sure he's still 15. That was the comment I was originally answering to. This is why I rarely comment in here, because I'm scared of being taken out of context. When they actually get round to it, is later....coming up hopefully in series 3 and by then Charlie is 16 and legal.

R302 Oh, okay. I think they’re pretty close in age. I don’t think it’s unrealistic that Nick is the one who isn’t ready. It’s the dialogue that’s incredibly prudish in a way horny boys aren’t.

If Nick had sex with Charlie when he was 16 and Charlie was still 15 under English law it would be statutory rape and Nick could spend his entire life on the sex offenders register as a paedophile. It rarely happens, but it can and its very much drilled into kids here. In the books is always clear that Charlie is pushing for sex and Nick is the one holding off and waiting.....

R304 I don’t think it’s unrealistic that Nick isn’t ready in the broad sense that it’s crazy a 16 year old wouldn’t want to fuck. But specifically here I just think it’s a better storyline and more realistic for the way Kit and Joe act them that they’re both “ready” in that they want to do it, but Charlie isn’t ready to actually do it due to his own issues and Nick is incredibly respectful and understanding

R306 I see your point. Nick came out very recently. I think it makes sense he’s not ready. My issue is with the dialogue.

R295 long comment incoming. Going back to this: A brief Joe timeline.

Got cast in HS in February 2021, filmed March through June 2021. Studied for A levels, which he started balancing with promo and then the shows release, presenting at the BAFTAs, and so on, starting in March 2022.

Did the one day theatre thing with Will in May 2022 I think, got announced for the trials in June, started rehearsals in July, did the trials August to September, during which time he also auditioned for and landed agatha.

Started HS S2 filming literally within days after the Trials ended. Flew straight from his last day, to Brazil, to LA to do some Agatha work and go to the Emmy’s. Finished Agatha work the 18th of December 2022, right back to London for bash’s birthday, a little time in IOM, and in Atlanta and filming by mid January 2023. Filming lasted till June 2023 and his longest stretch of time off was 4 days. Jumped straight into promo with Kit and magazine shoots in June 2023. Then does London Pride in July. Actors strike is July through November. Does BakeOff in August 2023 most likely, when he also takes a trip to NY and LA and meets with his agency. September 2023 starts filming HS S3; during this also auditions for Sweeney Todd. Ends HS S3 filming in December 2023, is in Sweeney Todd rehearsals January on and will be performing 7 times a week through May.

He’s had at a maximum one month off at a time from work since March 2022, and maybe a total of 3.5 months off altogether (let’s say July and August 2023 and June 2022). And that’s all not to mention if the animated film voicework is true. All that while also dealing with crazy cyberbullying, a bad breakup, and living across the world from loved ones as a teenager. His work ethic is insane

R307 see your point is an interesting one and yet another way Alice could’ve added nuance to the storylines. I think she could’ve tried to handle (probably badly because it’s Alice but still) the idea of two boys who love and are extremely attracted to one another and want to have sex but both have their own things to work through. Nick is absolutely bi and absolutely into Charlie but maybe never imagined himself with a boy before, and wants to be fully out to everyone, family and the school, before having sex. Charlie is incredibly into Nick but is really self conscious about his body and trying to hide and later to heal from an eating disorder and visible self harm scars. But instead it’s a magical purity they share

Sebastian Croft. 15 film/theater/tv credits at 22 years old with 3 projects on the way. Anyway.

Need yall to laugh with me at this Fraulein rebuttal to r308: “Sebastian Croft. 15 film/theater/tv credits at 22 years old with 3 projects on the way. Anyway.”

R309 Classic 2010s Tumblrina MO.

R302 Can confirm that in S2, Charlie and Nick are 15 and 16 throughout the whole season since it's such a small chunk of time. Charlie's birthday would have taken place only a few months prior to S2. For half of S1 until the arcade episode, Charlie was 14 and Nick was 16. At the end of S2, they're 15 and 16.

Come S3, they'll show Nick turning 17 after summer vaca in September (fun fact, same birthday as Beyonce).

Then we'll see Christmas and New Year, Charlie will turn 16 in April, and they'll have their various sex scenes in May/June at ages 16 and 17. Easy way to remember this is the 16 Going on 17 song from Sound of Music.

But Nick will turn 18 right as he enters his last year of sixth form (and likely S4 + Vol 6). Basically, Charlie and Nick are one year apart for a handful of months until Nick's birthday rolls around, then they're two years apart.

Definitely agree with the Paris grinding dialogue being a bit unrealistic. Charlie comes off as someone that genuinely desires physical intimacy but also uses it sometimes to distract from talking about deeper or uncomfortable things, so I personally would've preferred the combo of Nick not wanting to go further for that reason (Charlie putting Nick's emotions before his own) + Nick's own overwhelmed feelings from having just come out. When they do eventually have sex, they are a lot more honest and open with each other. I do hand it to Alice for making it about emotional intimacy too. I just need them to actually be allowed to use the word sex in S3.

R311 That’s an impressive career by anyone with a brain. Only calling yourself out, frau.

Kinda funny, ST IG promoting Bake off.

Bash has worked like 6 months (gonna be generous) in 2 and half years. Be for real

R315 Yeah, because he’s worked for the last 10 years consistently. That’s called hard work paying off. You wouldn’t know about that.

R315 she shouldn’t have advertised his IMDb because all I can see is how low rated many of his projects are

R317 The best actors in the world will take any experience they can, especially as young performers. Only proving you know nothing about the industry, once again.

R317 Only ones high rated are one he's barely in (GoT, HS, Love, Death & Robots)

And if you fraus were really into talking about achievements, you’d bring up Kit’s insane work ethic and commitment for the last 10 years. 24 credits and he’s only 19. The way you’re losing your minds because Joe booked 3 jobs in 3 years is hysterical.

R309 That's interesting because the coming-out storyline felt underdeveloped in the show, even while being the majority of Nick and Charlie's discussions. Charlie's eating disorder came out of the blue too, at least to me.

R321 it felt underdeveloped because it made the act of coming out rather than the feeling and emotions and aftermath the central thing. Honestly coming out to my brother is a less visceral memory than my agonizing over doing so. They should’ve cut 3 or 4 of the 8 coming outs and instead just used that time to develop Nick’s feelings and thinking. Alice’s allergy to solo charlie scenes where you see him suffering in private makes no sense to me. She did it for Nick s1 and it was well received and yet we get no inferiority about Charlie’s depression; anxiety, OCD, or eating disorder or self harm.

We should get this scene from Charlie's birthday in S3. Joe's gonna be great at showing Charlie a little bit anxious about Nick moving away for uni, but also a little bit horny. All while being adorably drunk because Charlie's a lightweight and Nick is super endeared by him throughout.

R323 need kit to lift Joe into the counter by his slutty waist or perfect thighs thanks. Gratuitous shots of Kit’s arms or joes thighs and waist welcome

R323 It’s gonna be jarring going from S2/S2 to S3. So much is happening.

R324 I checked and the scene begins with Charlie already on the counter before he calls Nick over to stand between his legs, but surely they can show Nick lifting him onto the counter first. Adaptations are for creative liberties!

R326 our own desires aside, it actually adds to the drunk cute Charlie and the horniness thatre supposed to be in the scene if he tried and fails drunkenly hopping up himself and Nick has to lift hin

R327 DL in its director era, I love it.

The simplicity of this made me laugh

R328 my director era is me trying to explain how making joe get naked for S4 is a way to show that he’s overcome his eating disorders and that kit grabbing his ass and Joe grinding on kit in public is a beautiful display of gay bi solidarity

R324 Will always appreciate Central Casting Georgia confirming a 28 inch waist. And still funny a slutty little waist was a requirement

R331 they should’ve also added flat asses need not apply. But agreed, “you need to have a snatched waist” is a legit hilarious flex of a requirement

R329 One of the weirdos that had a problem with djl making a Kit account.

R330 Honestly I feel it's a very important there is a lingering shot up and down his shirtless body to show he's full recovered as well.

R333 probably, not saying they’re an amazing person but idk them and found the response hilarious.

One thing I love is the pacing of the show, and there's a charm to how it's told in very brief vignettes and "headlines" (YA comic book style) combined with just a handful of N&C scenes that are still brief but slightly more developed than the rest each season. The flip side is that I have to admit I skip a lot of the show (almost every scene without J or K in them) because I don't find that the acting or the other relationships in the show feel "true" enough.

Joe &Kit are the ones who make the core of the whole thing feel real even if the dialogue is often ridiculous, and it's why imo they are responsible for like 99% of the HS success.

All that to say I expect very little from the writing -- I join everyone else in saying that the dialogue for scenes like "I wanted to share a bed with you" or the post-coming out bed scene in Paris was PAINFUL - But I do trust JoeKit to elevate it way beyond what's on the page once again with their acting and that insane chemistry of theirs. I hope if they get a final 4th season they get the money they deserve.

R336 glad they’re reportedly negotiating together for S4. Between joes actually batshit castings and how there are literally metrics including a Guinness record tracking how popular kit is, think they can get a substantial bump

The fandom got ahold of Bash’s TikTok videos.

R338 wannabe weirder Vicky is on point

[quote] Ridiculous !!!!! He doesn't know how to get attention anymore. He thought we were going to keep laughing at his bullshit and now he realized that we put up with it out of respect for Joe

Imagine being proud that you share the same pea sized-brain humor as the homophobic fraus that made your fave leave Twitter. Lmao. Couldn’t make this up.

Did anyone (or their friends) here end up getting picked for The Wild Robot's screening? Debating if I should look into tracking Pedro stans for confirmation, saw that some of them got confirmation e-mails.

After Joe lost Bash he’s now dating old creeps. Joe stans have bigger problems to worry about.

R341 I’m the person who asked my friend who is into Joe and Kit. He (fairly) said he wants to fuck over 18 them, not listen to them voice underage geese. So no dice

R338 the best one imo

Anyway.

R345 They're ass at stalking if it took them 2 days to see the video. That it took this long is proof that no one is checking for him anymore.

R344 Not sure what Fraulein fights with us when twitter is a million times more brutal to Sunshine Boy

Wonder if the 5 Bash stans look at his social media and cry a la Cassie from Euphoria that they've never been happier to see him be unemployed and acting like a moron

R341 The Nick account is quick to post things on his twitter account but can’t spread this news. This fandom is so useless.

Bash stans not understanding how algorithms work and that tragically and through his own huge efforts he’s still affiliated with the show and his much more famous ex. Sad

R346 Poor Bash has lost the homophobic Twitter fraus’ support - they’ve bullied him for years. How will he ever recover?

R349 I had to block him so I woudln't see his videos because they are embarrassing. My tiktok doesn't even have tons of HS on my fyp either

R349 His much more famous ex should book more therapy sessions. He needs it.

That Bash immediately went back to TikTok as soon as Joe started posting there will never not be embarrassing for him. That being said, I’m happy for the guy that he and his boyfriend now have that in common because ngl, not sure what Bash is bringing to that relationship otherwise

R353 You don’t understand being attracted to a hot, kind, caring, rich, young and very hung twink? Are you even a gay man?

[quote]hot, kind, caring

Citation needed.

Won't link it here but I swear to god HS fans are so stupid. One of them has made a really smug edit showing how Joe "beat the hate" but included like 30 screenshots of extremely cruel tweets making fun of him. In what world is that ok?

R356 The Bash shit was also fucking stupid. They do know the cast could come across that right.

r357 you mean the crossed out pic of them in the edit? Honestly I think they hope the cast comes across it and loves it because they are stupid. But I personally do not need Joe seeing 20+ screenshots of people being horrific to him and saying how much uglier than kit he is.

R358 Oh I agree. Saving a bunch of hit tweets calling him ugly and then using his breakup he was private about in a cunty edit to show how he beat the haters is fucking stupid. Of course it's all over now if you search him and fans are cheering it on

Joe stans aka dumbest people alive.

Solo Wasia shows in NYC and LA. Joe liked the announcement, maybe he’ll go if he’s still around.

The way this still looks like the beginning of a porno.

R361 am guessing their own schedules permitting, Tobie and Kit will visit to see both Wasia and Joe. Be it for a solo show or when they support Laufey.

Assuming the Kit is going to the Met Gala, he could wait until the end of Joe’s run and be there closing night, or possibly a few days before closing. I doubt he’d visit NYC twice that close together if he knows he’ll be able to see Joe in May.

R336 I hope they change up the dialogue when Charlie tells his friends he slept with Nick. 'We did some hands stuff' sounds terribly juvenile. Let them say what it is: Mutual masturbation... Nick looking up if 'hands stuff' counts as sex is also unbelievable. Did any guy here do this?

R365 Just have Joe say wanky panky. At least, that’ll be funnier. Never looked up “am I gay” but some did so who knows. I need Imogen far away from that buying lube scene.

R365 'Hand stuff' would be fine if Charlie and Nick didn't have an unnaturally open and close relationship with their friends re: their sex lives. If your besties can buy you lube, condoms and tell you you want to fuck, they can hear more details. I can't ever see Charlie saying 'we jerked each other off' though. Alice would never gives details even if she draws Charlie getting railed and pretends she didn't

R366 Fuck me if we have to sit through “Let’s go buy some lube nIcHoLaSsSsSSSSSSS” 🧿👄🧿

R367 Charlie should be telling his friends how much he wants to fuck Nick. It shouldn't be his friends telling him how he feels in his body. Does Alice not want him to have any agency? Bizarre.

R369 honestly your last point is very real. After Charlie working hard to overcome his struggles to be ready for sex, it’s almost insulting to make an ace guy and straight guy talk to him to explain being horny like he doesn’t know his own body. If anything, having Elle help either Nick or Charlie if they really needed help could’ve been more radical; either being able to relate to Charlie on struggling to be ok with their bodies during sex or being really matter of fact with Nick and used to anal.

I also don’t mind the idea of Charlie talking to his friends about sex, especially Tao, in a more casual way, where he’s moaning about how he wants to have sex but is scared to broach the subject and they’re just like “bitch please Nick obviously wants to fuck you”. Would be kind of nice to just have a straight friend be so obviously casual about gay sex instead of a no homo thing and I think Joe and Will could kill the comedy there. Ditto I can see Kizzy and Kit being really funny in a scene where Nick knows he needs condoms and lube but is self conscious and Darcy makes a whole scene to make him less self conscious in the store. But instead it’s “let’s have lesbians, an ace guy, and a straight guy explain gay sex”. Honestly

R364 I wonder if closing shows would attract as much attention as opening night, especially when fans might do the same math about Kit being in NY for the Met Gala and potentially Wasia as well.

But you're right, it might be easier for them to do a longer trip at the end of April/beginning of May if they can. I'd love it if Joe could see Wasia in NY.

I just watched the Joe edit discussed upthread. The fans are cunts. Imagine dragging all that shit up when you could just be celebrating his success. Heads fully enveloped by their arses

R372 like imagine he saw that? 30 tweets of people just calling him ugly and comparing him to his best friend and people making light of what was clearly a tough breakup?

Mind you, that format of edits (a bunch of negative social media shit setting up a fancam) is extremely common among fandoms. So all of these morons think it's a totally normal and acceptable thing to make.

R372 btw that person isn't a Joe fan. Used to be a Bash fan, then hated Bash and then turned on Joe for not hating Bash, then changed to being a Kit fan, then changed into being a Joe fan once he broke up with Bash, but has since called on him random shit.

R375 they’re all very very weird. I’m unsurprised someone who thought a lot of very hurtful insults to Joe were fun bait for an edit doesn’t give a fuck about him

R370 I hate you for that. Kizzy and Kit would have killed that scene.

R375 yeah I’ve always clocked them as one of those Kit fans that uses a Joe pfp (at least in more recent times). Makes the edit even crueler tbh

R377 also hate myself. The kizzy and kit scene would’ve been great. But I also think Joe and Will could’ve nailed something that was funny/awkward and poignant as they sell the Charlie and Tao friendship so well in the limited scenes they get. Something like Charlie delicately talking around “well you know, recently I’ve wanted to do… more with Nick and maybe be with him in …that wall with the blush and huge eyes, and then tao deadpanning “you mean you want to have sex” with a raised eyebrow. I think that could’ve been very funny but then also been resonant of past scenes: Charlie telling Nick that the bullying made him hate himself and find himself disgusting, and him basically saying to tao he hasn’t wanted to be too graphic because he didn’t want to gross him out with gay sex, and tao reassuring him that there was nothing gross about it except Charlie fucking a marvel fan. Instead Alice is having them explain hormones to Charlie

[quote] tao reassuring him that there was nothing gross about it except Charlie fucking a marvel fan [quote] a scene where Nick knows he needs condoms and lube but is self conscious and Darcy makes a whole scene to make him less self conscious in the store

Why are you better at writing Heartstopper than Alice? I can absolutely see all four of them nailing this.

Can they seriously stop bringing Joe’s name with him? Now they all want to acknowledge the relationship? R380 Crazy how having an actual gay man’s perspective changes things..

R381 can they at least be discreet enough to say he lost a catch instead of joes fucking name

Continuing the “everyone who meets Joe adores him” thing, Adam Hills is one of the three other people in Joe’s Bake Off episode. Says they’ve kept in touch via WhatsApp

Joe getting name dropped as the likely reason for an upswing in Sweeney Todd sales.

[quote] Sweeney Todd, which has been slipping in recent weeks after the departures of stars Josh Groban and Annaleigh Ashford (and before the February 9 arrivals of permanent replacements Aaron Tveit and Sutton Foster), showed some improvement. Receipts totaled $857,422, an increase of $81,341 over the previous week, and attendance inching up to 95% of capacity. A possible reason for the boost? The arrival of Heartstopper star Joe Locke in the supporting role of Tobias.

Unemployed tiktok influencer… Wonder where they got that language. Oh, looks like your funny little comments are being used by fraus to bully Bash.

R384 Genuinely so fucking pleased for him.

R385 Unemployed TikTok influencer is the most obvious drag ever, you don't need to lurk here to come up with that one. He's spent a month in Los Angeles replicating TikTok trends, he's attempting to promote a skincare line, and his last post on Instagram was a plea to a corporation.

R384 That's a healthy bump for someone that's not very known over here. Average ticket prices went from $81.97 to $86.34 and 463 more people saw the show Joe's first week than the previous week.

R384 Surely him and his millennial boyfriend will celebrate.

R387 sorry, is the troll trying to give this thread shit for saying something used on Twitter? Just about every insult directed at Kit in the last few months has come from her here.

R387 Bash living his life with his hot boyfriend, enjoying the sun and taking a break from work turned into Tiktok influencer on Twitter because of this loser thread. They copy paste any insult losers here make.

R390 That’s the infamous troll with 5 followers. Non comparable to twitter accounts with 10K followers making fun of Bash. Shut up.

Multi posting - girl, take your meds.

The funniest part is that the troll/Lee's line of thinking has picked up no traction on Twitter. 25 likes versus 377 likes on the quote tweet dragging him.

R393 After you kys xx

R394 if he really didn’t give a fuck he wouldn’t have made Nell unfollow Joe months after the breakup as they hung out with his new twink but sure!

R394 That sounds really impressive until you actually know the reality of it.

theatre run - community theatre run that was poorly reviewed and couldn't sell out 10 pound tickets. avg attendance age 65. lead in a movie that got delayed that will be shoved in Amazon's schedule sometime this spring. supporting in a movie that replaced the biggest name. in a new BBC drama that filmed for months without him.

R396 Or Nell unfollowed Joe after hearing what happened between them. Food for thought.

R397 they don’t seem to get listing 3 things he’s done in a year isn’t impressive when they’re all mid. As you say, community theatre, small film he’s supporting in, and least important family member of the least important lead in a show. Contrast that to say, second biggest character in a theatre release animated movie with an Oscar winner leading, lead in a Netflix show, and lead in an indie film. Or lead in a huge marvel show, lead in a Netflix show, and third biggest role in a Broadway show. Not to add that Kit and Joe get excellent reviews for everything unlike some.

R397 Bitch, not everyone wants to peak at 20. Or have their defying character be a 15 year old school boy.

R394 I honest to god couldn’t even recognise the projects written out like that. I spent a full two minutes trying to think of the theatre production. That was unfair of me, Dinner theatre in England’s 10th smallest city does still count.

The way the fans wouldn’t even think of him if the troll here didn’t bring him up all the time. Funny as hell

R384 Pretty obviously the reasons. Most of the good seats are sold out for tomorrow and Thursday so should be a good week again with Aaron and Sutton coming Friday.

In other news apparently Aaron does lives when he gets ready and forces his costars on them, so might want to follow him to see if he bugs Joe

R400 The Wild Robot and Agatha are both going to end up having larger audiences than Heartstopper.

R401 Please, every other day you bring him up unprompted because you’re obsessed. You brought his tiktok with Charlie randomly. He lives in your pea brain rent free. Anyway.

Are the Joe stans ignoring that it was broadway week and you could get 2-for-1 tix to Sweeney Todd during Joe's first week?

The theater was filled with cheapskates, not Joe stans.

LOL!

I have no idea where Frauline is based but the healthcare system is clearly in shambles

R396 Or unfollowing Tobie while being a newlywed of fives months. The most unbothered king.

This is a nice pic

R407 Just like Joe is so unbothered but listened to sad break up songs all summer.

R405 Lmao! They’re so delusional it’s funny.

R407 his face is so cute and dynamic with such big eyes that he almost looks like an animated character sometimes

This is literally fraulein and cursed alien on these threads

R410 True

R412 with your fav looking like an uglier greasier this and with fewer leading roles than this literal animated rat I’d be quiet

Remember back in the day when trolls would get timeouts for posting that quickly and insanely? RIP Muriel. Even your most hands off approach was better than whatever the fuck is going on now.

R414 She's gotten a couple of them

R415 apart from the initial one from her big reveal when she spammed the thread with Bash images I didn’t realise there had been more

R413 Yes, and? Bash has humor and can make fun of himself. He’s still dating a hot model while Joe is stuck with old creeps because no one wants him.

R411 only explanation that this threads cursed will interact with her is that they’re not actually a Kit stan at all. Bash troll shits on Kit constantly. Increasingly suspect they are just an alt

R416 Not enough. Maybe Muriel didn't do anything and the home turned off the internet, but there was one blessed week when she didn't say a word and then came back trolling with double and triple posts over and over again

R419 she did make it known that she was leaving - she promised she wouldn’t be back but that never sticks. I haven’t checked but cursed also did a farewell post a couple of days ago. Presumably they’re back at it - LOLOLOLOing and SAD. As though shit posting on a thread that has you on ignore makes you a moral authority

R418 I don't think it's Cursed, she's too defensive on Twitter for her to let the shit the supposed Kit stan lets slide on here. I do think Cursed is a lurker, though.

R420 I said I was taking a break from lashing Joe.

His dumb stans are still fair game!

LOLOLOL.

R420 Says the queen of Frauville. This thread is a joke and this ins’t serious. Get a life.

R422 Lmao they don’t understand that we’re mainly making fun of their victim mentally about Joe! And they’re making people hate Joe because of how stupid they are.

Kit is so relatable.

R425 Joe’s view of Kit at any given point is just 🤳. Man can’t take his eyes or camera off him. Relatable

R426 Lmao clinging to this video for dear life. Pathetic.

R426 In the best way, his Joe Vision is like those dead wife montages that everybody makes fun of in movies with the soft lighting as the woman laughs or acts quirky while he zooms in on her. God.

R427 They don't realize that they make Joe come across as an idiot.

If Kit rly does like Joe and Joe started fucking an old fug guy instead?

He'd be an idiot!

LOL!

Who’s the older guy/fossil guy that keeps getting mentioned?

R430 You don't want to know. I wish I had brain bleach. I wish I could pull a Cher and turn back time.

R429 Exactly! They need to convince themselves someone hot and successful wants to be with Joe. Pathetic.

R430 being rightfully gatekept. Those of us who don’t know are better off

I realised I accidently had someone who wasn’t a troll blocked and headed to my ignore to rectify that and saw the actual trolls just replying to everyone but none of us seeing it - SAD. lol

Anyways, back to Kit being a simp.

R434 need him to pull some fanfiction shit and go dispose of the old man. He doesn’t even need to fuck or date Joe though I’d welcome it. Just bury the fossil 6 feeet under as he should be

R435 He’s good hanging out with people his age. That’s why Tobie and Kit are not on a plane to Nyc. They don’t want to hang out with Joe and his old creepy boyfriend.

R434 hard to kill the undead

If anyone does happen to go to the screening of The Wild Robot, they'll likely make you sign an NDA and there will probably be an embargo on discussion of the movie until a specified date. I mean, people are likely to leak it anyway, but studios can be ridiculously litigious (remember when a bunch of nobodies and teenagers were sued for illegally steaming movies online?).

*people are likely to leak details, not the film itself

I thought they weren't into each other. Is Kit really into Joe? That would be cute.

R440 it's mainly chatting shit. They are clearly attracted to each other but the "they should fuck" is just joking around. Here. On twitter there are a bunch of middle aged women who believe they are secretly dating. Weirdos

R440 According to this thread, Kit is a bitchless loser and he’s been pining for Joe for the last 3 years. They refuse to see him as his own person.

R438 I was thinking that. Honestly, the good thing about this is that there's a book so technically there's no way you can plot leak a pre-existing story, you know? But I'd be fine just having confirmation that Kit's voicing a character.

R438 If you bitches don't take this opportunity to spam Kit and Joe shit...

Kit laughing at Joe doing a Jennifer Coolidge impression is an IRL running gag.

R444 He can do a Jennifer Coolidge impression, he just can't right now!

R443 Yes, sir.

Technically is in character but Kit lifting Joe.

R445 That is my favourite video of them to date ngl Other than the float grinding one.

Big Gay Lunch.

Matching pictures for you and your bae.

Hugs and nice words

(Change the url to twitter.com so we can see everything on here directly.)

R447 Teen Vogue was so kind to us. So many videos. It was cute that they reunited with one of the women involved in that feature at Vogue World.

I think the article said the whole photoshoot was at an Airbnb in New York? If they want to do another round sometime soon, please, by all means.

Lmao this is sad. All these posts don’t change the fact that Joe is fucking a fugly man with a receding hairline.

R447 I love this video. They’re much more candid here. I’d love to be a fly on the wall so I can listen to their mundane conversations and see how they act off camera. In this video, you can hear Joe’s voice changing when he tells Kit “You were doing the face you make all the time”.

R454 I like the part where Kit says he sounded like Imogen, looks at Joe for a second too long, and then snaps out of it.

R454 Netflix needs to release more bloopers or behind-the-scenes because this swap game is the closest glimpse we have of what Joe and Kit have said re: laughing and joking between takes to defuse any awkwardness. The kissing montage having so many smiling kisses makes sense when you consider they probably had the most freedom with those (not that those kisses were improv, but they weren't big story moments and could get away with being sillier).

R456 So perplexed as to why we don’t have a single kissing scene blooper. Although, in the video the fan took of the i love you scene, they weren’t cracking up and were very professional.

R457 Yeah, I could genuinely see them just being too good or too focused to mess up super important scenes like that. If they have a kissing blooper, it's probably a less serious scene. Not to bring up the infamous coffee breath, but Kit said that was a practice kiss instead of a filmed one.

I feel that in story driven and background improvised kisses or intimacy they’re professional but there has to be character breaking and giggling during the montage especially if they were having to run around changing outfits and stuff lol

Angelic brat.

R460 his brattiness is so fucking cute. You can tell Kit loves it

The giggling

I see Wasia Project are doing a gig today for National Youth Theatre

I think Will G went there , not sure

They havebsime big gigs coming up

R463 he did. Wasia’s music isn’t really my thing (I’m trash) but I’m so thrilled for him that they’re doing so well. He seems like a really kind, thoughtful guy

I doubt Kit's sister going to the US for two weeks has anything to do with Kit but shout-out to her anyway, since Kit has mentioned her as the person that got him into Heartstopper.

Little review from someone who saw ST, who obviously doesn't know Joe

[quote] The shocking standout for me was Joe Locke as Tobias. Joe is a celebrity cast, so I was kind of making the assumption that he may not have the singing or acting chops for the role. This is also his Broadway debut so I don’t think anyone really knew how he’d fare. But I was pleasantly surprised at how good he was. In a few years, he may make a good Anthony in this show.

Kits sis just posted another story

Arrived USA, has a female colleague or friend with her

No idea where she is

R466. I am no expert but Joe sounds very accomplished

Yes I am biased.

And he is only going to get better

R465 She posted about going to Dallas on her feed a post or 2 back, I assume she’s there.

R465 The pearl-clutching about following his sister like she isn't a fitness influencer with almost 40k followers.

I have been thinking this past week, I am so glad Joe has The Sweeney Todd Family for his Broadway debut. They seem like such a stellar group, truly. I think about the things they perhaps have done, or changes or new approaches, when they came into Joe’s life: how they protected him when there were concern of threats AND reassured fans (us), cleaned up his ST post ig comments. The cast celebrated his talents & on sm, cast and crew embracing him with ‘loving hands’, jumping up and down on stage when he took his curtain call for his debut. And Daniel’s words, that were so complimentary, heartfelt, and loving…he had only known Joe one month! The HS cast is lovely, but young, and sometimes everyone, even adults and powers-that-be seem weirdly spare on praise and adoration. Is that British reserve? A “well done, our Joe, so proud” then just get on with it? I don’t know, with all Joe has been through, and Marvel on the horizon, I have been grateful for this ‘love bomb’ of a deep embrace for our Joe.

R471 What the fuck are you talking about? The Heartstopper cast is incredibly supportive of Joe.

R472 The OP is one of the trolls, assuming some frau originally posted it somewhere else.

It's the I'm pretending to be a Kit fan personality posting some comments from some random CC I'm assuming

The troll has a lot of nerve posting cc comments we’d all make fun of anyway to poke at Joe when her fav’s main CC calls him and his boyfriend sunshine and sunflower and insists he’s such a special boy because his family loves him

R471 Nothing is enough for these Joe stans. That’s why Tobie, Kit, Will and Yaz have all started to take their distance from him. No one wants to deal with that.

Yes yes Tobie and Kit despise Joe, that’s why Kit bookended a photo dump with him and Tobie posted about Sweeney Todd just last week

R473 R474 DL unblocked everyone for me again and I didn't recognize her without the LOL!s and SAD!s, should've known.

Anyway.

R477 Watch the Joe stans turn on Tobie if he doesn’t go soon and is seen hanging out with other friends.

R479 They dd it b4, they turned on him for liking Bash's IG posts.

They said he wasn't "Ride Or Die"!

LOL!

Just such a great face

R480 Lmao forgot about that. Everyone has to bow down and praise Joe endlessly. Meanwhile, he just posts water emojis and he’s the most supportive cast member in their eyes.

Kit’s ass is so juicy. 5 likes and 7 bookmarks lol

R483 they’re so horny but scared to say it it’s hilarious

Is anyone here into Young Royals? The new trailer came out. It looks good.

this is cool

R483 Kizzy gave the fandom the go-ahead to appreciate Kit's juicy ass back in 2022 but the puritans are still too scared and hypocritical to admit they're horny for him

R485 Not a big fan but I’ll probably end up watching it. They have good moments and the sex scenes are well done.

R487 truly. The way the men/mascs of the cast openly admire each others arses (Kizzy to Kit and Kit to Joe) and fangirls just giggle that they’re unserious is mental

yes Nick loves EATING (out) Charlie

r490 who wouldn't want to eat Joe's ass

R490 That's actually a pretty hot fancam all things considered, but I most appreciate that it's a Ciara song and not Taylor Swift for the 2,000,000th time.

It cracks me up that Lee is exactly like their fave. Claims to have moved on, clearly hasn't. Why are you monitoring a fandom of a show your fave got shitcanned from? Why did you know when Kit was in Paris and Joe was in Australia?

r493 thought they were done with the fandom and monitoring it? honestly not to defend the ambers etc. because obviously they are nuts, but the fact is there's a higher chance statistically that kit is in America seeing Joe at any given point than that Bash was there while they were still dating OR that Bash lands a role than takes him more than 10 min to film or plays to more than tens of people. Food for thought!

R493 Bash fans still being mad about JoeKit will never not be funny. Why are they so defensive 8 months after the breakup and keep up with their locations. Though Bash was booked and busy and better off now not giving a fuck.

Amber is a fucking moron, but regardless Joe and Kit fans played the long game and won in the end even if they aren't currently fucking.

Also wasn't going to bring this up but since Lee and Sim are so convinced he's booked and busy Bash fans are now pretty sure Bash never left LA because he's been liking things at 4am London time. So it's not even "he had a month and a half break from filming", they legit didn't need him on Dope Girls after 3 weeks. Their newest cope is he's auditioning for things in LA.

They're posting this tweet like it's a flex which is funny.

4000 miles: small regional theatre with cheap seats, still never sold out, wasn't transferred to West End. Wonderwell: filmed literally in 2016 HS S2: a farewell since after a gripping 10 min of screentime in S2, with multiple critics wondering what purpose he served, he was written off QWAH: not an acting project, required basically no work from him, has done nothing more than have a charity slap art other people draw onto merch Svalta: lost its biggest name before filming, still not the lead Dampyr: not the lead, filmed in 2019, didn't he die in it? Dope Girls: he was not needed on set after December

R496 only thing he's auditioning for is a job at Chipotle

anyway, a study in contrast

The way bash fans get him dunked on because they can’t stop trying to “own” other people is so funny

R496 Crazy that when Bash fucked off to mediate instead of being with Joe they defended him but now that he's spent a month and a half making TikTok videos with Charlie they're giving them vomit-inducing nicknames like Sunshine and Sunflower. They wouldn't know a consistent position if it slapped them in the face.

R497 This is like, fine for the kind of actor he is (second-rate, destined to be supporting) but given that it's meant to imply that he's keeping up with Joe it's fucking hilarious.

R498 much as Fraulein says otherwise you can really tell from shit like this that whatever bash fans may say, no one on here is lying when they say they’re not into him. No matter how cringe the tiktok, if it resulted in a still of Joe looking up with his huge eyes and tongue out we would spam post it and never stfu. Ditto kit. Moot point, since they’d never post something that dumb, but really shows how not about bash we all are

Lmao imagine being this pressed about Bash stans on Twitter when they are an handful.

R500 I wouldn't care so much if they just accepted he's a bit part lower D-list actor who has mostly worked because of his privileged upbringing. Even Svalta is because of Nick Frost knowing him for something he was in as a child. Same with 4000 Miles, was from old nepo connections. But no, they gotta try to compare him to Joe and Kit as if their careers are on the same levels. 95% of his current "fame" is because of his connection to HS/Joe.

Go with you are happy Sunshine and Sunflower are failed rich kid influencers who work 2 weeks out of a year because now they don't have any fandom stress and can be free to be husbands

R498 Study in contrast. Bash and Charlie.

R498 Joe’s new man.

Not the frau looking up some random guy to try and pass off as Fossil, dying.

R506 Looked up old creeps since they all look the same xx Joe is really winning with that one!

I can see why Jonathan locked him down immediately.

Joe arriving at the theatre today

If the only thing you have to celebrate about bash is the only thing we have to mourn about Joe, taste in men, what a self own

R510 Again, not every fan wants their fave to plateau at 20 and then have a major depressive episode because things don’t go their way. Bash has a rich, diverse career already with 3 projects on the way. Anyway.

R510 Bash is included in the bad taste in men. Yes, the one thing Bash can do well is pick out a cute twink and snap him up quickly

This bitch is so fucking annoying, all update accounts post pictures? What the fuck is she even talking about?

R512 Yes, Joe was clearly miserable with Bash. Bash was clearly terrible. That’s why he helped him move in his new apartment in Atlanta and let him stay rent free for 1 year at his parents place. The worst.

R513 A Joe stan being insufferable?

SHOCKING!

Here’s a series of pictures of Joe looking miserable with Bash because Bash was such a horrible boyfriend - that no one noticed it before apparently.

Can’t believe Joe suffered this much for 2 years.

R513 don’t like her but I think the joke is specifically that it’s the drains outfit

I’ve never gotten the drain outfit thing, it’s as stupid as the shoe thing. He looks hot.

i am a but a simple man who believes in JoeWill supremacy

R515 Always complaining about something. They cried for months for a new Kit update account and they’re not even bothered enough to follow this one that’s “unproblematic”.

R520 Is Will gay or bi?

R522 Nobody knows because he's had the same girlfriend for years and hasn't really shown interest in anyone else. He used to be kind of flirty with Kit, but that's about it. I personally suspect he isn't.

R520 I don’t think there has been anything to suggest he’s anything other than straight. He had a girlfriend for a long time but she hasn’t been spotted for a long time.

I missed that Connor was getting dragged recently, too.

could be just the outfit or the fact that he’s an alpha male

He’s so fucking hot

I will laugh if hstwt makes these types of tweets after seeing season 3.

I actually thought this was obvious since they've said the hotel rooms were built inside the school instead of an actual Paris hotel.

I hadn't seen these before.

R528 It’s funny because Edvin and Omar are still on Twitter yet they tweet stuff like this.

r531 both like & engage with this type of content too

the kind of shit we’re missing out because Alice has no balls

R430 That photographer has Will on her website as well

R532 If Alice wasn't scared to showcase their best assets, we would have close-ups of Joe's butt and tiny waist.

And here's her Kit page

R530 I like that they attribute everything and linked back to the source.

R523 I could be wrong about this, but I sometimes get the vibe that people are so chill with Kit's crush on Will because they figure Will is straight like Tao. I don't pretend to know Will's sexuality, but I do remember going "Ahh..." when he referred to his relationship with Kit as a bromance in an interview.

Of course, you can argue Joe and Kit pulled "Like a brother" and they're certainly not straight. But the energy of that whole answer is still balls to the wall bonkers, bless them.

R537 For a pair of extremely gifted actors, Joe and Kit did not sell that shit at all.

R538 That’s the thing; I don’t think they were acting. No one would expect them to say “brothers” so who knows what their deal was.

R538 It kills me when Joe looks at the camera and gives a flat little "Great."

For Kit, it didn’t help that he did that little laugh/duck of the head he seems to do whenever he's about to say or do something embarrassing in interviews. Using this gif from the Sex Education question for quick ref. I vaguely remember him doing it during Brazil charades when he had to mime swordplay.

That a DLer was described by the mod as an “ethical source” of a Kit photo will always be funny to me. No shade to you DLer, I know you have it legit. Just not sure anyone in the fandom has described us so nicely

R539 Honestly, feels like overcorrecting on providing a platonic/familial word and then laughing because they know it sounds stupid to land on brother when they've kissed hundreds of times. They were generally a bit flustered in that entire interview, it's so funny.

R539 Legitimately looked like Kit lost a bet and was forcing himself to answer like that.

R541 Depending on which mod runs what and if the mods actually lurked/still lurk here, they might not even know it involves a poster on here.

R543 I assumed they didn’t tbh. Still funny

Will at the National Youth Theater fundraiser.

Jenny's also there.

He's so funny. Didn't Joe comment on an Instagram post of Charlie and Nick kissing once? They're incredibly nonchalant about it.

R547 Do you mean this exchange?

R545 okay so now I have a glasses kink. Thanks a lot Will

R545 Hot as ever. R457 The day they don’t joke around is the day we can take the shipping seriously.

On God, we will be able to make such categories for Joe and Kit someday.

Speaking of La La Land, they'd probably have fun doing a musical number like A Lovely Night together.

Sounds like they're all in on Agatha -- hopefully they do a lot of press and late night shows

R552 Bob hasn’t sounded like Marvel has done anything except hold a gun to his head for months. Look forward to actually reading the quotes. If Bob’s not into something he usually doesn’t fuck with it

R553 frankly he can think it’s trash. So long as he gives it good promo I don’t care about his personal thoughts

R552 Hopefully that means a lot of promotion.

R554 sure but he stays silent on the stuff he thinks is terrible and then trashes it as fast as he can. If he has enough confidence to hype it that’s great. Fucking hope CAA is onto Joe about better PR.

R556 What's wrong with his PR? The cast has very good PR. Bash is maybe the only one who needs better PR.

R521 They're SO mad that they're now talking shit on their privs ab the Kit page teasing the pic.

ICU, @joelockebff, your NO SCREENSHOTS rule didn't work out for u!

SAD!

R557 The ex has no career, he doesn't need PR. Joe hasn't gotten the coverage he should get considering what his agent has gotten him. Agent is fantastic

Listened to the call. Mentioned very quickly but he said “looking ahead, we have an exciting slate of originals coming to Disney +, including Agatha from Marvel” and then mentioned two other projects from Lucasfilm and Pixar

R557 his PR could be way better. Kit and Will and formerly Yaz have the same one: all been in British Vogue and Kit had about a thousand interviews and covers last fall, all of which were fantastic and really provided insight into him in a smart thoughtful way. Joe should jump to their PR.

I usually ignore the troll but if there really are people still whining about the Kit updates page...get a life.

R560 He’s trying to hype these new shows because most of their shows are flops. They didn’t promote the Percy revival because they didn’t think it would a major hit. They got lucky fans didn’t stream illegally.

R562 literally no one is, so don’t listen to the troll

R561 And Joe's is a lot more interesting than "why are you interested in me/who I date". Not sure why that seems to be the hook his PR are going with

Cori at the MOBO Awards.

R563 nice dose of pessimism about Agatha there? I think he likely also recognizes how well Wandavision did

R564 Oh yes they ARE!

Here's a reply 2 a tweet bitching about it :)

R567 It’s just a fact that most Disney+ shows have been underperforming. Idc what he thinks, honestly. He’s a major zionist but Agatha will be successful with its killer cast, no doubt.

I’m a Star Wars fan, so I’ve been going through Disney not knowing what the fuck they’re doing with an IP for ages. Thoughts and prayers to the Marvel fans, though Agatha should be fine.

R561 Think that's his team pitching him. Joe doesn't need that push. He already booked the major roles he wanted. They will most likely make him do a lot of joint interviews with the cast of Agatha during promotion week.

Joe's at the very beginning of his career, of course he needs a push.

I think for all Joe seems pretty chill he would obviously like to be recognise for his work. Prosper barely seems up to the job for a popular British show, how are they going to cope trying to ride the Marvel wave? If Tom Hiddleston is anything to go by - poorly.

R572 He would need a bigger push if he were looking to book something but it seems he already booked the major projects he wanted this year. I fail to see how his PR is bad.

I’m not saying Kit’s PR is useless, but publications going after him for press is a no-brainer. He sold out a ton of magazines during the first season’s press run and he drives social media traffic like crazy. Don’t think Public Eye had to do a lot of chasing or pushing.

R574 He's going to be done with Sweeney Todd by May. Seven months left in the year.

R571 LOLOLOL!

Now Kit gets press because he needs it badly & Joe doesn't get press bc he's above it?

U fraus have LOST it.

The COPIUM!

R575 I don’t really understand this argument. Shouldn’t the work he’s doing now generate media so that he is recognisable for future projects? It’s not like having work now means he isn’t auditioning for future projects. As R575 basically says, being recognisable and having a good narrative drives more coverage in a positive cycle. I’d add Joe’s own sm engagement, while not anywhere near Kit’s is pretty impressive in itself for the amount of followers he has

R571 They need to capitalize off the roles he's booked. The best things he's done promotion wise are most certainly Netflix arranged. The other stuff is magazines S1 Kit booked (and got 4 covers with) and something Will, and Wasia, did a few months after Joe both times.

R573 Joe stans can’t comprehend that Joe doesn’t have massive appeal and charisma. No one wants to buy magazines with Joe’s face on it. That’s why.

R578 Sorry, were you trying to reply to someone else?

R577 That's not what I'm saying. I think Kit's team is pushing him out more because he is actively working on booking big roles. He seems meticulous about the work he wants to do which is very good. Every major actor went through that.

R575 yea, sorry, that was for R574. Though I was just writing this in response to you -

that doesn’t really explain Will. He’s great and the band is doing very well but he than Joe and far less engagement, and didn’t have the same huge impact Kit did after S1. I’d argue he had much better coverage than Joe after S2, which isn’t a great look for prosper.

R578 But that's a small part of PR. I think his PR is pretty good in terms of keeping up his image. I mentioned Bash because his PR did a very bad job when the Harry Potter game came out.

R582 that’s the troll that originally started out as “I’m here because of the unfair treatment of Kit here” and has revealed herself just to be a rage troll who hates Joe and is either a Frauline alt or a troll that used to hang around a year ago and wrote like a Millennial Trump fan. Either way if the you see LOLOLOLOL or SAD! best ignore because she’s fucking irrational

R582 I'm sorry that makes zero sense. He's still a very unknown actor. He booked a few roles but isn't some household name that doesn't need to a Vogue interview because he already booked and busy. That's not how things work. Actors promote their work in features and promote themselves. Also not sure how Kit is meticulous and Joe is not

R583 Yeah, Will specifically is really where you see Public Eye’s full potential. That’s them hustling for sure.

With Kit, I’m sure it was more about narrowing down offers. I called Kit talking to British Vogue about his coming out ages before he did because they did a whole big piece about it when it happened and it was the one piece he liked on Instagram.

With Joe, I have no idea what the situation is at all.

R577 Lmao they can’t believe it that not everyone thinks Joe is the greatest actor alive. They need to belittle Kit and Will’s accomplishments to feel better about it.

R585 Oh god that's the new person who showed up asking questions yesterday. We really gotta stop falling for it

R586 I didn't say Joe wasn't meticulous. Comparing them makes even less sense to me. Will is mostly promoting his music and his band. He doesn't have many publications or promo about his acting career.

R584 okay. So then specifically I mean the part of the PR that gets him media coverage. His relationship with his brand management seems good - I’m not sure that’s prosper as his guy is listed as being with Curtis Brown and I don’t understand how that works tbh (Yaz is still with them). He’s definitely not out there doing sponcon for a budget skincare line that’s ignoring him

R589 Crying at you thinking everyone is a hater because they don’t agree with you.

Want to add on, the reason I’m not sure what the hell is going on in Joe’s situation is that I find it really hard to believe Hunger and Rollacoaster were the only publications interested, especially after how well their GQ MOTY issue did.

Toiletclogger

R590 Comparing the two leads of the same show and how one gets tons of features and covers and one gets Hunger magazine makes no sense. Sure

And funny how you knew nothing yesterday. Didn't know who Bash really or his boyfriend but suddenly know he needs better PR. A very quick learner

Wow didn't mean to start a fight. Agree to disagree then.

R593 I can.

R595 this. Clueless until there is a chance to cause shit.

Some of you are insufferable when someone has a different opinion.

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