Heartstopper

Using this thread as the new one since it's empty.

Previous thread here.

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Haley Atwell confirmed for season 3

Glad my new old thread is coming in handy.

R4 Maybe they'll give her some of the lighter Sarah scenes like this one for Cool Aunt vibes.

R6 Yeah there must be a reason they cast such a big name for such a minor role. They're either giving her some of Sarah's lines or they're creating all new material for her.

From the previous thread, here is the source for the Maia quote about adding Argentinian heritage. From what I remember, and I can't remember the source for this bit, Maia's character will still have Cuban heritage but it will be mixed Cuban/Argentinian heritage or something like that.

R7 I hope it’s some of Sarah’s stuff or a minor expansion of the Menorca storyline rather than a lot of new shit. I don’t mind some stunt casting for a minor role but don’t really need like, nicks aunt or Charlie’s grandparents or whoever having whole arcs just because they landed someone famous.

R7 the article me and another guy are sure wasn’t great for their relationship. I’d be pissed if my casual boyfriend / fwb was being mentioned in the headline of an article about me. It was weird how much attention that movie got for something that had just been filmed. Even before Kit came out

R8 Yeah, it's why I'm leaning more towards the likelihood that she's going to be doing some reimagined Sarah scenes with Aunt Diane instead of full-on recasting Olivia as Sarah. Maybe they'll throw in some minor plot about Sarah needing to go somewhere for work, and Aunt Diane will stay at the house to keep an eye on Nick. And potentially they could still get Olivia for something like phone calls, the same way her off-screen lines like "Nicky! I'm home!" were probably recorded elsewhere or in ADR.

For all we know, even "Love can't cure a mental illness" has been turned into a phone call with Sarah instead of Sarah literally being there. That scene even begins with Nick on his phone trying to talk to Charlie through crappy service.

R9 Teen girls drive engagement.

R10 Good points.

R10 good theory. HS has impressive wig work but she was in the middle of Wonka press with platinum hair when they were Majorca

R11 don’t they ever

R7 Also from the previous thread, I listened to the video of the actress playing her mom one more time and accounted for her being drunk and the weird accent this time around. Correcting myself and she actually said she was in York, not in New York. Definitely an old video. Her Spanish is ass.

R11 Women in general at the time, to be honest. Teens, millennials, etc. The male boost started up after he came out.

R12 It'd be bittersweet, since Olivia would kill that scene with her usual body language and empathetic eyes and hugs. But some actors do a lot with emotional phone calls. Kit would know as a Normal People fan, Paul has a pretty big example in that show.

I'll retain some hope for the idea that they filmed it on a set in the UK, moving the scene indoors, but I definitely got the vibe that they wanted to get the visuals of the beach scene. Even Kit's "that's a wrap x" picture of the water evoked the mood of it. Nick and Charlie in their war wives era.

R15 Yeah, they'd both kill it regardless, what Kit did in this scene dialed up is what I'd imagine for a phone call. But I do still suspect that Olivia was on set in Majorca. Obviously no irrefutable proof, but little things make me suspect, like Patrick liking the post about the line being recorded while they were there, Diandra making the trip (Sorcha is a supervisor so she could've hypothetically been in charge but I imagine they'd want Diandra around if they had to do stuff like wig work).

R16 Good point about the wigs. I think the main thing tripping everybody up is Kit being the only actor in that huge photo with the crew, but you never know. If Hayley's casting and potentially Geoff being a big name has been hidden this long, I believe in their stealth powers.

My guess is, unless Olivia literally could not be in this season at all, which seems very unlikely to me, she is going to be doing the love can cure a mental illness scene. Just think that that’s obviously the most iconic one, and the one where Sarah having a relationship not only with Nick but also with Charlie adds a lot of resonance — that it’s not just someone who loves Nik and is worried about his boyfriend being too much, but someone who loves both and is advocating for Charlie’s well-being as well. Where I can see Haley fitting in and of course this is just conjecture is in the This Winter scenes — an older relative who seems to get that Charlie isn’t just there for fun, but rather for some family struggles, and is welcoming, and kind. If They had to cut Sarah from some Nelson scenes, this winter makes more sense to me than the trip, because the former is much more of an ensemble.

My guess is, unless Olivia literally could not be in this season at all, which seems very unlikely to me, she is going to be doing the love can cure a mental illness scene. Just think that that’s obviously the most iconic one, and the one where Sarah having a relationship not only with Nick but also with Charlie adds a lot of resonance — that it’s not just someone who loves Nik and is worried about his boyfriend being too much, but someone who loves both and is advocating for Charlie’s well-being as well. Where I can see Haley fitting in and of course this is just conjecture is in the This Winter scenes — an older relative who seems to get that Charlie isn’t just there for fun, but rather for some family struggles, and is welcoming, and kind. If They had to cut Sarah from some Nelson scenes, this winter makes more sense to me than the trip, because the former is much more of an ensemble.

Sorry for the double post!

R17 I feel like I would read more into her missing from the huge picture if Kit and any other actor were in it, but as far as I can tell it's just the one principal actor who shot in Majorca and crew. And they shot scenes spanning 2 episodes, so there were definitely other actors involved. Olivia, Hayley, Jack, extras playing his family, what have you.

R18 R21 All good points. I think this whole thing proves that we ultimately know very little about the production of S3 despite having some scenes we can make conjectures about based on exteriors, fan reports, etc. Hopefully we'll get some teasers in the coming months, maybe in April like they did last year to tease S2. April = the anniversary of S1's release and also Charlie's birthday.

Everyone looked so good.

I hope everyone at Sweeney Todd is deeply grateful for their view

R7 Took me several minutes to finish this article because of the revelation that she was an Ezria stan. For those that never watched Pretty Little Liars, Ezria was a student/teacher relationship from the original series that started when Lucy Hale's character Aria was Ezra's underage student in high school. The relationship was fully endgame, there are even nods to them in Maia's PLL series.

I could see the movie doing a combination of Argentinian/Cuban roots. Sounds like movie!Lila grew up in Argentina and then moved to Miami, possibly among the Cuban community like in the book. When she goes to England, I guess she'll have more experience with being uprooted from her home and culture.

I remember some of you mentioning this article being wild for including Kit in the headline, but I had no idea he was the literal first thing mentioned in the headline. That's rough. The article was published after his coming out, but I'm guessing the interviewer didn't do any follow-up with Maia like there was follow-up in JoeKit's Teen Vogue interview (when they did the photoshoot last summer).

R25 it was so awkward because either it was a contributing factor or they had decided in Argentina that it was too hard they wouldn’t really bother anymore. The absolute lack of Kit in her end of year stories round up 2022 makes me think there was at least some part of Maia that decided she was over him being connected to everything she did. She lost about 100k followers in the couple of months after that

Kit has been pretty consistently liking her posts since December so I do wonder if we are going to hear more about the project soon.

R25 My guess is they'll do that and also have her have an Argentinian mom and a Cuban dad or something like that.

Regarding the story, my guess is that she didn't feel great about it (I can't remember 100%, but I think she didn't share the story on social media, don't quote me on that), but I also think they had an expiration date regardless between the long distance and the relationship being open.

R28 she shared it but more than a week after it dropped

To the person going through the Kit coming out thread and making me relive that shit with all of these notifications: Why?

R28 definitely had an expiry, though even open I’ve always thought Kit was more serious about it than others here did. He seemed pretty into it. They both did really but observing her now Maia seems to go pretty all in and the last guy got way more attention from her

R27 I'd say we can make a guess that there's movement if Maia leaves Argentina, but she has other projects beyond Recipe for Love like PLL or the movie she did with KJ Apa. If the movie now has Argentina as an important element, then potentially there'll be some press in Argentina even if it's just Maia. Netflix Tudum in June is another possibility for news, but don't know if they'd go so far as have Kit and Maia attend. If they did, I assume they'd have Kit do double duty for Heartstopper S3 promo.

I always thought it was a fun, light thing for both of them. They only traveled to each other when it was convenient (Maia to Kit when she was already in Europe, Kit to Maia when he was in South America), the whole open thing, and the apparent lack of drama when it ended all indicates to me that neither were invested enough to get their heart broken.

Speaking of losing followers, both Joe and Kit are losing them at a steady, comparable rate, so they'll probably be back down to 4/6 million by mid-March.

Whenever people talk about how Kit and Maia will handle press as exes, I can only think of this famous interview where Josh Hutcherson and Vanessa Hudgens did promo together after a break-up but were still amicable. They had to awkwardly explain to the interviewer that they weren't together anymore.

R35 Shows how much I pay attention to straight people, I had no clue that they even dated.

The dramatic music made me laugh.

R32 I was more thinking just a date announcement or something. When the All the boys movies came out they did a date announcement that was all over my sm where they weren’t in the same place. Probably pandemic times but still a potential I guess.

R33 specifically I think you and are not aligned on this which is totally fine. Kit seemed pretty into it and considering his age I guessed probably a bit more inexperienced with casual relationships (Sof not withstanding). They do seem to be extremely amicable but I still think one of them (Kit) walked away more sore (based on nothing but my own projected vibes about how he behaved when it was happening). But not something I’ll go to the wall over

R34 they barely move so it’s understandable. I wonder what demographic they’re losing. I know one of my mates unfollowed Kit but I have no idea why (I noticed because I had one less mutual and thought it might be something exciting - it was decidedly not)

R36 me either. They are particularly uninteresting straights as well. I don’t get the guys that are into him at all

R37 kit isn’t special. That’s how I’d stare at joes lips too.

R36 I think I found out during the Hunger Games era? But it sometimes gets talked about even now, mostly as an afterthought when people talk about Vanessa/Zac or Vanessa/Austin.

Speaking of Hunger Games.

R41 irresistible tiny twink has even straight men wanting to hold him and pick him up. Iconic.

R33 Ditto. I thought it was pretty casual from the get-go and then putting myself through those Maia interviews validated my instincts about it. Also, as you mentioned, the aftermath. Neither of them went cold turkey on social media, they stopped commenting on each other's posts but the likes were always fairly steady. They seemed to detach really easily and with no resentment.

R38 My guess is they're losing people who are temporarily checking out and will likely refollow them when it's back. Same thing happened last year, they lost followers the whole year and then had big surges when the new season came out.

R41 no shade to you. We all know all kinds of shit. I assume I’ll be able to parrot back my encyclopaedic knowledge about Kit and Maia’s relationship in 10 years time and I have almost not interest in male female relationships regardless of if the couple is queer. I’d guess than unless Kit goes public with a woman right now (during my prolonged hyperfixation) I probably won’t know much about any other mf relationship he has.

R43 for what it’s worth, I think she was always more casual than him, but again, based on projected vibes only.

R45 Interesting, I got the vibe that they were both equally invested (uninvested?) because they both behaved the same the entire time. Hinting pictures, low effort trips to see each other that someone mentioned upthread, same kind of interactions with each other, etc. Actually might even say if anyone was a tiny, tiny bit more invested it was Maia, her mom and brother followed Kit and I know at least her brother met Kit, but Kit's siblings never followed her and I doubt he introduced his siblings or parents to her.

R46 I suppose she did meet his Heartstopper family. A theme park invitation from Joe, nothing to sneeze at. Maia seems pretty into theme parks herself.

R47 That's one of those things i filed under even footing because she introduced him to her whole crowd in Argentina.

This is kind of how I imagine all of the 28 year-olds on HSTWT are like in real life.

R48 Yeah, I still wonder if it was a little surreal for him to get his Emmy news when he wasn't really around anyone close to him besides Maia. My memory is foggy on this, didn't he initially post a quick story about it and then another one later with more gratitude, including a Joe shout-out?

R48 I actually thought it was kind of strange she took him out so much. Could just be me but if I had Kit Connor visiting me I would not let the guy out of my bed/shower/couch/any surface I could push him up against and fuck him

R50 all of this and yes, that was the pattern of the posting

R50 yeah he did a quick story and then some of the stans got all pissy and the. later he did the one with the joe mention/more gratitude

R50 He did. I think it took a while for it to fully sink in. But this reminded me, I saw an interaction between him and a friend on Facebook about the Emmy win a while back (and yes, it was Kit's Facebook, I checked), I can't remember his friend's exact comment but he was rinsing Kit (I think it was something sarcastic like, "Will and Bash made you come off great in this") and Kit responded with, "I was sleeping!"

R53 We can blame the unemployed man for putting Kit on the spot in the middle of the night.

R53 I will note that comically, a few fans got pissy about him not mentioning Joe (which was NOT worth getting pissy about and was dumb as shit and way too harsh but at least made “sense”) but the majority of pissy fans were actually upset he didn’t thank the fanbase. Clowns

R55 honestly just shows bash fans have always been kit and joe antis because it’s convenient that many of the accounts I recall being shady about Kit originally not mentioning Joe were totally fine with the much much worse thing of joes actual boyfriend not only accepting kits award Joe had just lost but also posting it on his grid. I never took issue with kits original story because I honestly thought it was just clearly a last minute rushed story that left out everything and not a meant snub to Joe, but I absolutely took issue with bash’s conduct

R56 they were really just personally offended he wasn’t there for their enjoyment. They’re dicks.

R54 why was he asleep. Maia should have had him awake and fucking 24/7. Slack of her

R58 the fanbase was all around unpleasant that night. The people defending kit were also being total assholes “it’s not his fault he did a better job than joe”, plus people making stupid jokes “haha Joe should post with the Emmy and say since kit didn’t come it’s mine now’”. Like:.. multiple things can be true at once. It can be true that Kit was fantastic and deserved the Emmy, that him being there was no big deal, that Joe was prob happy for him. It can also be true that it probably did hurt a bit for Joe to lose when he was there in person and had to put on a good face, that it sucks his boyfriend accepted and posted the award, and that fans shouldn’t say Kit was better to “defend him” or make dumb jokes about joe

That night was weird as fuck. I still remember being on here half paying attention to the stream, thinking Loretta Devine was going to win, and then slowly realizing Kit had a shot once Olivia won.

R60 the one bummer of S3 being more adult is I doubt they’ll be eligible and I would’ve liked Joe getting an Emmy out of the show as well.

R60 the night was also weird because people were up bash’s ass on here insisting Joe wasn’t a baby and didn’t need Bash to comfort him and it would’ve been a dick move for bash to make will accept the Emmy alone. So Joe isn’t a baby and doesn’t need a little love after losing an award but Will IS a baby and needs help accepting on behalf of a friend? Also you don’t need to be a baby to want your boyfriend to prioritize you but whatever

R54 Saw that post over the summer. Weirdly enough Kit stopped posting from that account in October last year. Only posted from his Insta page after that.

R62 Me. You are describing me trying to justify Bash being a cunt because I didn’t want to think of him as a shitty boyfriend to Joe. just me being an arsehole

R62 Their logic became even funnier when they immediately saw that they could pivot to dragging Kit for his first post like it was a shiny thing to distract from Bash sucking.

R63 Oh, I had no idea. If there's any further tea and you're in the Reddit group, please drop it there.

R65 tbf on here people defended both kit and bash but often in a way that shit on Joe weirdly? Like saying bash was fine because Joe isn’t a baby and Kit was fine (which I agree with, no issues with Kit) because he deserved it more than Joe anyway. Not sure how Joe ended up getting crap. On Twitter though yeah absolutely, the JoeBash updates girl was being shady about Kit when her guy had legit bounded onstage to nod along enthusiastically as Will talked about how much Kit deserved it and then posted it on his grid to I don’t know, rub joes face in it more.

Only person who had reason to be pissed at Kit was LA DLer. Justice for them!

R67 for me anyway, and I’m tempted to go back over my posts (and yet scared) I think I was actually feeling a bit weird about Bash’s behaviour already (Brazil) was scrambling to justify his shit. Same with his, now weird as fuck, NY post. I mean seriously, what the fuck was that?

Honestly, the whole thing makes me happy that Joe and Kit got to do the GQ MOTY awards together. A speech from Paul Mescal and everything. While they’re both individually amazing and completely deserve any individual noms/awards, I get the impression that they see Heartstopper as very much a partnership.

R55 Never seen an unemployed actor with so many acting credits on his resume. Are you sure you're allowed outside your mental institute?

I'm about to spend 15 dollars on this tumblr bootleg

Awards are where Kit's introversion really pops out for me, I'm surprised people on Twitter don't make a bigger deal about it. He was super fucking flustered at the GQ MOTY event, he couldn't pass the spotlight over to Joe fast enough at the Attitude Awards, and he opened up his RTS speech by saying that it was "very stressful" for him.

R73 really not a fan of public speaking as himself. Seems like he very often gets Joe to do the bulk of it and, where they can, the two of them defer to Yaz.

R57 ' with the much much worse thing of joes actual boyfriend not only accepting kits award Joe had just lost but also posting it on his grid' Is that why Kit brought Bash to Elton's dinner? To punish him for accepting the award for him while he was absent? Is that air too cold in that psychiatric room? The parasocial bias is out of control.

R73 This reminds me that Joe and Kit seemed more than happy with Yaz hyping up the crowd at London Pride. She's really got that confidence in spades.

R74 DL hive mind strikes again.

I hope they do more podcasts and Joe does more interviews with patient interviewers. I’ve noticed in interviews he’s way more quiet than whoever he’s with so whoever it is (Kit usually) talks a good bit more. It was especially noticeable in the one with Kit and the ex where Joe barely spoke. Don’t blame Kit at all for that, to be clear: he’s not talking over Joe, and it’s the job of the interviewer to get both talking equally and to pivot to aim questions at Joe if he’s not speaking as much. He seemed a lot more comfortable on radio and podcasts, and I can see he and Kit having really fun rapport there, but he’s still such a soft deliberate speaker that I think non rapid fire questions are better for him and allow him to give fuller better answers.

R74 I'm sure they'll both get more comfortable in time, but it's hilarious to me how they sort of complement each other. Kit takes more of the reigns in interviews, Joe takes more of the reigns with public speaking.

R67 Never understood the poor Joe in that scenario. I'm sure as a new actor Joe was just thrilled to be nominated. Maybe I'm wrong but I never got the feeling that he was desperate to win. I don't think Kit being there or not changed anything.

R78 R79 I await the moment Joe and Kit are allowed to interview each other, ideally for like 30 minutes but I'll take anything.

R80 this is a bit silly. If you can’t see how even if he was happy for kit and was happy to be nominated it still stung a bit to lose and it would’ve been nice for his boyfriend to hang out with him rather than celebrate his loss, we really don’t see eye to eye. No need to be condescending about “poor Joe”. I’m sure you’ve felt bummed about way more minor shit than losing an Emmy.

R80 how is it poor Joe to say people didn’t need to defend kit by talking about how much better they thought he was than Joe? Why are you so determined to defend people being assholes about him?

R80 Same. That whole night was so strange. I get being disappointed Kit wasn't there. But the overall fandom acted as if he missed the televised Emmy. They only had this energy for him (maybe because he won?) not Alice or Yaz. They also acted like Joe was affected more than let's say Yaz or WIll who also lost.

R84 are you two reading the same comment I am? Legitimately the only thing that comment says is that no one needed to shit on Joe to defend Kit and that bash was an asshole for being so overtly enthusiastic about someone other than his boyfriend winning. You’re both acting like it says he was devastated and depressed and Kit not being there hurt him deeply.

R82 Isn't that projection? We don't know how he felt about losing the Emmy to Kit. It's possible he didn't see it as a lost but as a win for the show.

R84 er where did I say Joe was more hurt than Will or Yaz, or that he was even all that upset at all? I just said I thought bash was over the top… if wills girlfriend had randomly accepted an Emmy for someone he lost to I would also have found that weird

R86 and saying you’re sure he was just happy to be nominated and that he saw it as a win for the show …isn’t projection? This is a little weird ngl. Go after the people who shit on Kit, not me for making the innocuous observation that losing awards isn’t fun

R87 They as in the fans on twitter...

R86 isn't your view a projection too? If anything the fact he didn't post anything about it for two weeks indicates otherwise but either way its weird to claim projection in one direction only

R89 oh, sorry. You posted agreeing with someone who is saying I’m projecting for the simple idea that Joe probably wasn’t delighted to lose an award so I misunderstood

R90 Tbh it doesn't indicate anything. We are all projecting and it's fine if people have different views on this event.

R54 that’s an RPG account, not Kits real FB

Thanks r68. Seeing Joe eased the sting a bit but the disappointment still lingers.

R92 I have no problem with different views. You're shutting shit down as "projection" when this is very literally a gossip board and we have made calls about all sorts of shit based on how we think Kit or Joe felt about them. Why is this particular topic being held to a higher standard of factual foundation?

I think people are really losing the plot of my original comment at r67 which is that somehow in the Emmy debacle Joe of all people got shit on either by people dismissing his probable feelings to defend bash, or dismissing his skill to “defend” Kit and say he earned it more. And I say that thinking Kit DID deserve the S1 Emmy — Joe gave an incredible performance too especially for a first Role, and you can and should celebrate Kit’s win without tearing Joe down.

Re Joe’s feelings and bash: I am highly skeptical of the claims that he felt zero sadness at all and was over the moon for the show with no hint of fomo. I think he was undoubtedly happy for Kit but you can be happy for someone else and a little bummed (and all I ever said was a little, not a deep depression) for yourself. But also regardless of his feelings, even if I’m wrong and he felt totally fine and happy, I cannot imagine myself accepting an award on behalf of someone else when my boyfriend was nominated it and not feeling a bit of a dick LET ALONE grid posting it

I don’t think me saying either of those things is a “poor Joe” about the actual Emmy win/loss, just a statement that the fans are rude to him and Bash sucks which I thought were uncontroversial takes

Kind of crazy I can’t say “bash sucks for that grid post and fans shouldn’t shit on joes skill” without being told I’m projecting and that Joe was thrilled to lose lmao

R96 Lmao that’s legit not what you said or what I said but go off.

R97 legit exactly what I said at r67. That people decided to defend bash, who I have an issue with, and kit, who I have no issue with, by shitting on Joe, and that bash was a prick for rubbing the loss in.

Can recommend some excellent reading comp lessons if it’s not your strong suit

The guy rapid WWing his belief that Joe saw his Emmy loss as a net positive is funny. 2 in 15 seconds? Cmon guy

R99 Waiting for you to show me where I said Joe was “thrilled to lose”.

One thing DL is gonna do is argue about the same stuff for years.

R100 R80

R100 presume you meant 98. well close enough, see below. But more than that I honestly am annoyed I made a comment that was just saying people were asshoels about Joe for no reason and you couldn’t just agree that was unfair. Like, nothing justifies that, even if kit is your fav. Why was your reply necessary to my comment saying it was unfair Joe was shit on and that bash fans used Kit as a way to ignore bash’s actions?

[quote] I'm sure as a new actor Joe was just thrilled to be nominated. Maybe I'm wrong but I never got the feeling that he was desperate to win.

[quote] It's possible he didn't see it as a lost but as a win for the show.

Someone leaked the DanielRPK update from his Patreon:

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So "grounded" meant street-level then, but I can't fucking tell if this means Wiccan made it in under the wire before this pivot or if was canceled.

R101 sorry mate. People being pedantic dicks about a comment that is nothing but nice about kit but expresses empathy for Joe pisses me off. Theres no need to defend people being complete assholes because you want to say he should’ve just been thrilled with a nomination. He’s allowed to want to win but more importantly he shouldn’t be insulted which is what my comment said.

R102 Thrilled to be nominated. Think you need the reading lessons, smartass.

R105 explain how your comment had fucking anything to do with me saying “fans decided to shit on Joe to “defend” Kit and bash is a shit boyfriend”. Or did you just want to go on a rant about how Joe had no right to want to win

R106 some people think a singular ounce of empathy for Joe might kill them

R106 Cuz I don’t think this was a big deal and Joe was sobbing because he lost to Kit. You clearly do. I actually think Joe was happy his friend won an Emmy.

R108 literally can you tell me what you’re reading because I feel like I’m on drugs? What exactly in r67 said Joe was sobbing?

Also I know you are low intellect and may only be capable of one emotion at once but since Joe actually has a brain, as I said at r82 he can be thrilled for his mate and bummed for himself

Also r108 can you stop with the self WWs? If your opinion is so good it’ll stand for itself. Thanks mate

R110 Not the one with 7 WWs in 2 minutes so idk why you’re bothering me with this.

R105 If someone is just thrilled to be nominated and you think he took the win as not a loss but a win for the show then you can pretty much infer than you are saying he was happy to lose. Not sure why you are confused.

R111 because I’ve had 3 other people chime in agreeing with me on this thread and you’ve had 0 but somehow always have 2 WWs within a minute. Again you legit cannot quote a single comment I made implying Joe was anything other than minorly disappointed, you’re just making shit up that I said I was sobbing. So you legit just have such a weird issue with him you had to take r67 to fuel your weird agenda. Good to know you’re fine with fans shitting on him

R113 Not what I said either. Do you get off purposely misunderstanding things? Kit also got hate from Joe stans that day because they said he didn’t deserve the Emmy. Both fans sucked that night.

R114 and where did I defend Joe stans? In fact I said they were shitty already on this thread. And additionally, where did your original comment call them out? It didn’t so you are now inventing new shit to try to justify that r80 was shitty and unneeded. You could just say “my bad, you right, fans shitting on Joe to defend kit is wrong”. My fucking god.

R114 you really just need to take the L and say my bad, I shouldn’t have dismissed how hateful and shittt people are to Joe. It’s really giving anti at this point that you claim he had no reason to be a little hurt he lost and that you’re attacking a comment that says fans are dicks for shitting on him and his ex sucked.

R116 What L? The main argument was about Kit winning the Emmy and how Joe felt which no one knows. Lol you need to get that people have different views and keep it moving. Stop twisting words. Your lack of drama in your life isn’t my problem.

R117 dude. In r67 I said (1) people shit on Joe to defend bash and kit and (2) bash was a dick. In r80 you went on a rant about how the poor Joe narrative was stupid. I’m twisting nothing. You hopped on an excuse to downplay joes poor treatment. Kit isn’t gonna fuck you just because you hate his best friend.

Ladies play nice. A peace offering.

The most hilarious thing of all is I didn’t even mention joes feelings in r67 so talk about telling on yourself to then twist it into why Joe doesn’t deserve empathy. I’m done talking to a moron but if that guy needs a lobotomy rec happy to do some research

R119 nah, he’s a fucking dick who refuses to say the simple words “you right Joe deserves better from fans”. No need for me to play nice

Ngl I’m still confused about how

[quote] Never understood the poor Joe in that scenario. I'm sure as a new actor Joe was just thrilled to be nominated. Maybe I'm wrong but I never got the feeling that he was desperate to win. I don't think Kit being there or not changed anything.

Is a response to

[quote] tbf on here people defended both kit and bash but often in a way that shit on Joe weirdly? Like saying bash was fine because Joe isn’t a baby and Kit was fine (which I agree with, no issues with Kit) because he deserved it more than Joe anyway. Not sure how Joe ended up getting crap. On Twitter though yeah absolutely, the JoeBash updates girl was being shady about Kit when her guy had legit bounded onstage to nod along enthusiastically as Will talked about how much Kit deserved it and then posted it on his grid to I don’t know, rub joes face in it more.

When they have no overlap in subjects but whatever this is boring

R120 You really need to reread the thread and leave me alone with your projections. Fuck off.

R123 you replied with the worlds dumbest most irrelevant comment to me accusing me of making a poor Joe narrative for calling fans assholes. You fuck off and stop interacting with me, freak.

Someone who turned a comment bagging on HS fans and bash into a monologue about how Joe was just lucky to be nominated and thrilled for Kit with no negative emotions accusing others of projecting. Oh irony.

Anyway, this pic didn’t get enough praise earlier from the OP so I’ll repost

R124 The Poor Joe has you in a chokehold when it was directed to fans on Twitter. Blocked. You’re annoying and can’t read.

Someone who can’t write and has hysterics about the idea of Joe having emotions. Funny Joe can’t be sad about losing an Emmy but she needs to cry and be hysterical and block people for calling her low intellect. Ah well!

R119 They were so good in that whole sequence.

“Blocked” is taking me the fuck out. Dramatic queens on this thread announcing when they’re leaving and who they’re putting on ignore. Just do it without the press release or tell each other to kill themselves!

R129 But then it wouldn't be DL without the dramatics

R130 I know I just think if you’re gonna start shit in comment 80 then having breakdowns and announcing you’re blocking people instead of accepting shit handed back to you is annoying and cowardly but not my circus not my monkeys

R128 Fr they looked like they were waiting all day to makeout. I can totally believe Tao when he says Nick and Charlie are insufferable.

R132 I really hope they find a way to include that social media post from the comics (legit one of Alice’s finest moments and I’m not kidding) of Tao taking disapproving deadpan selfies in front of Charlie and Nick making out. Will would kill it and I always welcome more Kit Joe makeouts

R125

R133 I hope they keep that too, Will is so good at comedy. We should also get long-suffering Tao once Nick and Charlie start being horny on main, like when he catches Nick's text about how Charlie should try putting a condom on something other than a cucumber.

R135 Tao exiting stage left when Nick and Charlie first see each other post-text. We'll have the reversal of Joe and Will height difference in the show.

R136 Tao waiting for Charlie to emerge from the horny cloud of Nick asking him to stay over soon.

Kit has been pretty quiet post-Wasia Project, no?

This is old but classic. Kit probably pocketed this for when he had to mimic Joe's breathiness in the character swap.

R138 Tobie too. Either on their honeymoon or fighting.

Can we talk about his dick sucking lips

R140 literally always. I said this about the French snacks video too but how is he even a cute eater? I’m down horrific

R140 Embarrassed by the sound that came out of my mouth. JFC.

R141 We know frau. It's called mental illness.

Joe wraps those lips around crusty old war criminal dick every night.

R144 You'd think if he was that much of a catch like these fraus pretend, he would have found a hot guy by now. Oh well.

R93 Not going to debate it with you. I say it is, and you say it isn't. Believe whatever you like based on your intel, and I will based on mine.

Vogue World is on June 23 in Paris this year.

R147 oh maybe another joekit event, although given that its in France im guessing the emphasis would be on french brands but then again Loewe does show in paris…

R146 I'm not R93 but if you're talking about this profile, it's 100% fake. They created fake profiles for his family too and didn't even get the number of kids right. Kit does have a personal FB profile but it's locked down and private.

R80 I think your logic is sound. Knowing several actors, their seems to always be a bit of competition in various degrees between them when one has some success or recognition while the others are less so. But I too think Joe would be glad he had the nom regardless, and proud of her s friend. Especially since he already had the Agatha role in the bag.

R147 Nice, I hope they go. Would have been perfect last year to tie into S2's Paris trip.

I also totally forgot about the Paris Summer Olympics this year. If we assume S1/S2 take place in 2021, then Summer 2024 would be the summer after Charlie graduates Truham and Nick finishes his first year at Leeds. Couple's trip to Paris.

The way a long boring fight can be done and someone has to drag it back up to give their opinion is insane. Anyway it seems to escape everyone that you can feel both happy for a friend and a little sad for yourself. God forbid.

12 WWs… lmao

Neither subtlety in self support nor nuance are strong suits for some. Anyway, I’m still holding out hope for Kit to show up to the met gala. I’m very skeptical Joe or Yaz will get invites, nothing to do with them being deserving just the strength of their fashion relationships, and most other years I wouldn’t even feel overly hopeful for Kit. But Jonathan clearly loving him and Loewe being a sponsor makes me think maybe it’s possible

R150 Agree and that was my point but apparently saying that means you have no empathy for Joe. Over it now but it's pretty funny.

Jesus Christ some people cannot let it go. Shut the fuck up

Going to start saying every time someone says fans should be nicer to kit that it’s a poor kit narrative and he should be grateful for what he’s got so some of you see how fucking stupid you are

Been awhile since someone dragged out Joe can't be treated poorly or have feeling about anything because he has Agatha. Nostalgic!

R158 I legit still feel like I’m on drugs because my original comment only said “bash is a dick and fans don’t need to shit on Joe to defend Kit” and it somehow turned into her soliloquy on how Joe shouldn’t ever have any negative feelings, and suggesting that losing an award isn’t fun even if you’re happy for Kit is projecting

No arguments from me r146. Just really looking forward to all the future "intel" you bring us.

Appreciate you r149.

Now who's the one who can't stfu and let it go?

If you bring it back up I’ll engage! I thought your self given 12 WWs overnight would be enough to make you happy but guess not.

Please never again say kit has any negative emotions or you feel bad for him. After all he’s just lucky to have an Emmy and 6 mill followers and a job right? Or is that logic only about joe

I didn't bring it back, moron. Someone else agreed with my point and that made you lose your mind. I'm not engaging with you because you're willfully misinterpretating what I said. You can scroll and fuck off.

It’s hilarious that the suggestion that Joe has normal emotions and can feel like he wanted the Emmy but also grateful for the nomination and happy for Kit is so controversial. He’s not a robot. It’s unhinged someone is literally screaming down people feeling a little bad for him. Especially the person who spends comment after comment ranting about the failures of kit’s agents. Using that logic I’m sure kit is just happy to have a job and you shouldn’t be poor kit about him. But again this is boring as fuck and you should all shut up, myself included

“Someone agreed” your alt? Hope you grow a brain stupid. What happened to “blocking” me

Want

R164 fair. I’ll stop

Thinking thoughts

R168 Also thinking thoughts

R169 real

R149 Catching up, I left the original post about the Facebook comment and that wasn't the Facebook that I saw left the comment. It's a locked account with 78 friends that has a picture of Kit in a play as the header.

It makes me laugh that the last significant Kit movement on Instagram was him liking at least 5 posts about Challengers in a row. He’s obsessed.

R171 so the post you’re describing isn’t this, almost exact, one?

R173 The fake Kit response is the same but the friend's comment wasn't (and I don't remember which friend it was) because "Seb" would've been a red flag immediately. Are these accounts trying to duplicate his random interactions? This is fucking weird.

Made me chuckle

Just revisiting this…

R172 Challengers? What is that?

R177 The Zendaya/Josh O’Connor/Mike Faist tennis movie. He liked a couple of posts about it on Jonathan’s account, Josh’s trailer post, etc. He left a comment months ago about being excited about it, too.

Kit unfollowed Madison Beer. Kind of random

R179 Heard Make You Mine too many times in Nick/Kit fancams, I get it.

R179 She's boring and can't perform for shit. I get it.

Had he met her or was it just a casual follow, anyone know?

R180 I JUST had one pop up, how funny.

R182 Casual follow.

R182 Think he had a crush on her a couple of years back. He used to like most of her pics but that was a long time ago.

R185 that’s pretty cute. Maybe he’s going to meet her irl and clearly it out so he can follow her then

R183 yeah, thank you for that. The music is tragic but Kit is fit as fuck

R185 Might've been in competition with Maia. I went back and saw a handful of random likes from Kit in 2021, but Maia has been all over her likes for years and years.

R188 them having a crush on the same woman is really funny

R189 It's like Jonathan Bailey and Bash and Joe. Them commenting fast as hell on his posts is hilarious. Bash is always doing too much.

R188 Kit is also one to go back and unlike past likes. In the Sof era I clearly remember him liking a bunch of Dafne Keen posts and then after the unfollow/follow drama with Sof he went back and unliked them.

R191 Is that a genz thing? Joe does the same with

R191 really? He worked with Daphne

One of us.

R 91 I wonder if he was worried about making it obvious that he filmed with her in person for that big scene, I know he tried to talk around it on a podcast. I guess it didn't matter since Dafne eventually spilled the beans at a con, anyway. They don't seem to be particularly close otherwise, I've seen pictures of them talking at random fashion shows but that's about it.

R193 Yeah it was after he met her for the first time after going to the set. He liked a bunch of her posts that were on the sexier side for about a month or two and then unliked them later.

R194 they’re both legit great at it. Kit plays Nick like he wants to eat Charlie alive, Joe plays Charlie as being literally awe struck by his luck

R196 That must have been i relation to the trolls who were posting all his likes on Twitter to 'prove' he was queerbaiting

I also think it’s really cool Bradley is so open about his autism and everything that comes with it. Just saw his post about the earplugs he wears to address overstimulation

R196 I know I’m a gay man when I look through a woman’s Instagram and maybe 2 posts register as sort of but not really sexy.

R198 Could be. People are fucking idiots when it comes to bisexual men.

R200 She archived some of them.

Is Kizzy still in school? I thought he quit uni?

R202 Sounds like he's back in uni based on his insta story

Pink News contacted Netflix for comment on the Hayley Atwell casting and they declined to comment. And the show's been wiped from her agency page. They fucked upppp.

So it was meant to be a surprise. It did seem big to just drop randomly

R205 Absolutely meant to be a surprise. It was leaked by a Marvel update account because of her agents' fuck up. Expect Netflix/Alice/See-Saw to either make a casting announcement like they did with Season 2 new characters or they were planning for it to be a surprise afyer release like Olivia Colman in season 1. It's still in her IMDb page for what it's worth.

Really hoping this is true. Would make way more sense than a TV show

Sorry to all the Aunt Diane fans out there, but can't believe her casting would make any waves one way or the other and be thought to be a surprise unless they casted someone really huge in the role. Well the thought Alice being pissed is funny though.

R207 I'm interested, though feel Wiccan and his husband are gonna have to hard carry the movie since the rest of the young avengers are flops nobody cares about despite multiple appearances.

R208 my guess is it’ll probably be children’s crusade themed, and a way for Wanda to return one last time to pass the torch to Wiccan

R208 The casting announcement got alm ost 10K likes on twitter so I think people care. They probably wanted to announce all the rest of the characters together.

Trailer reveals for her and Geoff would’ve been cool.

I really hope one of the changes Alice makes from book to screen because she acknowledges not everything from the comics works is actually fleshing out Charlie’s time in hospital. I just don’t think a few flash forward diary entries that take 3 min is going to cut it. And ironically, since Allice is obsessed with random issues of the week, I do actually think destigmatizing inpatient care and giving a positive representation that’s not inadvertently proana, or girl interrupted style or one flew over the cuckoo’s nest would be really good. I definitely have friends who would’ve benefited from inpatient help for mental health or eating disorder stuff but were terrified to go

R212 I still don't understand what an inpatient stay will look like in the heartstopper world. The show doesn't feel real (in a way that other shows with dramatic elements feel). Everything is sugar-coated, even the bullying and Nick's coming out to his dad. I fear people might be expecting too much but we'll see.

I’m hoping we get a full episode on Charlie’s time in the hospital. For continuity sake Geoff could be his therapist in the hospital and then continue treating him after he leaves. There could be a few scenes of Nick and Tori bonding when going to visit Charlie, and also some side character issues like Darcy’s homelife and Tao/Elle drama covered in the same episode, with a focus on perspective and also understanding we don’t always know what other people are facing.

But let’s be honest, this is Alice so we’ll probably get a montage and jump straight from Charlie telling his parents he needs help to being discharged from the hospital all in the same scene.

R214 Let’s hope it’s at least a cliffhanger at the end of one ep then takes all of the next ep before he’s discharged and like half of that episode is Charlie’s treatment.

I like the close ups of these scenes I won’t lie, they’re great at improvising…

R213 I agree HS is sugarcoated and idealistic but I’d actually argue that’s why a hospital episode might be good. Showing a vision where it’s a space that Charlie finds comfort and stability and help because it’s far too often written as a uniquely bad experience, the same way HS grounds coming out as an overall really positive sugarcoated experience in contrast to the many more traumatic portrayals. I don’t think it needs to be like 3 episodes but an episode of him being nervous at first but welcomed by other people and feeling like they can really understand him, having therapy sessions (unrealistic but for the sake of the show he can see Geoff in and outside the hospital for continuity) and healing, and having nick and his family see that growth every time they visit, would be good

Ithink one of the things HS does actually do well is show how being in community (so around other queer people, see nicks reaction to the Tara Darcy kiss) of people who understand you can be really affirming and uplifting. Showing that inpatient isn’t just being stuck in a loony bin but can actually be a positive experience with other people who can empathize with your compulsions and issues could be very affirming

R216 Lmao this isn’t improvised. You stupid fraus really think they improved a kiss like that when they need an intimacy coordinator for a hand hold? They’re actors. Kit probably wiped his mouth after to not taste Joe’s bad breath.

R216 That montage at the end was the perfect encapsulation of all of the times Kit said they were much closer filming S2. Sold the fuck out of every single tender moment (the kiss, the dancing, the cuddling on the couch). Their swaying hug at the con was a preview of it.

R217 I actually see this as pretty likely since Charlie does mention having group therapy sessions and making some friends. There's also the stuff in This Winter where David goes for the most negative stereotypes of asylums and shit. I know some people thought David's line about "his drama queen boyfriend" didn't fit being moved earlier into S2, because comics!David was actually implying this about Charlie's mental health and hospital stay. Which sucks, since Charlie worried that he'd be seen as wanting attention if he sought help.

Tbh even if it was 3 episodes it wouldn’t give this storyline justice. I hope we get some good acting scenes for Joe but I’m not expecting much. Alice barely developed Charlie’s ED in the comics. The show Everything Now doesn’t a really great with that material if anyone is interested.

Does*

R221 everything now is brilliant with it and I would say apart from the more graphic vomiting and such an approach they could take

Yawn

I feel like Charlie's hospital arc will be almost two episodes with a time jump. I understand why the representation matters but the way people talk about it is unrealistic, it's a show with simple PG dialogue and only 8 eps, if they spend any more time it would be boring and weirdly paced.

I feel embarrassed for her for saying this. This Carly girl been gatekeeping the bootleg and started spamming gifs as soon as DJL does. The level of clout chase..

R225 sorry; if I implied otherwise genuinely wasn’t trying to say that in r212 or r217? I think I said it in r217 but to be clear, I think even one really good episode that’s themed around the hospital would be good, I just don’t want Alice to keep it as the two letters/3 onscreen minutes in the show. I don’t think it needs to be half the season though I think Charlie’s struggle and hitting rock bottom SHOULD be half or more of the season. Just doesn’t need to be in the hospital.

Anyway, Kit kept an extremely boring “let me come out eight times” storyline feeling pretty fresh across 2 seasons because of the power of his acting and I have no doubt Joe could lift this similarly.

R226 Is this the same person that was flipping out about people posting that first full video of Not While I'm Around? I get all of these assholes mixed up.

R227 gotchu yes I agree. The show owes everything to their acting I know no matter what the script is they'll kill it

R227 I definitely think it's safe to say that the arc will continue past the hospitalization, as it does in the comics. It's fair to worry about the tone being jarring once they get to the sex, but I did actually find the transition to be less cut-and-dry than people might remember it as. We mock the scene where Tao and Isaac talk to Charlie about being ready, but both that scene and Charlie's overall birthday have him self-conscious about wearing anything but a jumper that hides his arms and body.

Then, the first time Nick and Charlie start crossing some boundaries in bed, Charlie disassociates, has a nightmare about Nick thinking he looks disgusting shirtless, and a whole session with Geoff about his insecurities and mental blocks. A whole fight with his mum about his mental illness not making him a fragile baby incapable of teenage hormones and desires. I'm not saying it's the best writing in the world or anything, but a big reason people predicted S3 being Vol 4 and 5 is that Vol 5 is a continuation of Charlie's arc. The sex is part of it, not a whole new arc. (Not saying anybody here is saying that, I'm just venting my own thoughts.)

R228 Person who has gone to see it at least 8 times, who talks about it but won't post any audio out of respect for the actors, also Joe is not famous enough to be hate crimed person since straight white guys have been fine

R227 Joe did lift similar but sure

We got an answer as to why the cast was liking the Slave Play posts so quickly, Fisayo is part of the West End production.

R233 that’s great for him. Love Fisayo

R232 I agree! I just meant that Kit had the central storyline in s2 and honestly on paper it was boring because it’s Alice. But he managed to make it moving rather than repetitive. I am saying I trust that even if Alice made the hospital episodes repetitive — and sadly I guess that she won’t but will just flash forward instead 1- Joe would similarly kill it and make them moving

Fisayo is awesome. He has a low key amazing career. Thrilled for him

R235 gotcha. The hospital will probably be trite as hell if the leaves painted on the wall are anything to go by but Joe will lift it and I should reserve judgement

R236 feel for him having to act with Harrington but I guess all jobs have their shitty sides

R237 I mean I don’t trust any of Alice’s QUALITY of writing so for me it’s always more about her giving appropriate time to let Joe and Kit do their thing. Like except for the coming out to his mum I don’t think any of the Nick coming outs were well written but Kit is so so good in them I don’t even notice the writing. Even if the dialogue is weak, if she spends significant time on Charlie’s storyline, I trust Joe will fucking body it the same way and I won’t even notice the dialogue

R232 It’s sick how insecure you are. Madness.

233 Not the Kit I wanted to see but that's great for Fisayo

Joe’s fandom is so cunty.. I went to check Italia girl and noticed she was rt-ing everyone but DJL. Did I miss the memo of DJL doing something terrible that Joe stans hate them?

R242 DJL likes Kit

R242 it’s over the new Kit account. They’re fucking idiots

R243 Though that girl is probably mad about Bash too randomly even if DJL is the "nicest" of the HS fanpages towards him if he randomly shows up in some old pictures and doesn't put a pie over his face. I remember it caused some drama when DJL said Joe and a costar for that vid where Joe hand feeding the ex muffins and bringing him coffee

R242 There are definitely Joe stans that turned on DJL over the Kit account, but R245 is right. Italia in particular is friends with Ils so she's pissy at them over Bash.

R242 it’s not really “joes fandom”. It’s the extended bash fandom. That girl is best mates with the JBU girls.

The way DL sometimes acts like kit fans aren’t equally horrific to Joe is a bit odd.

R247 What? We skulldrag Cursed Alien every other day.

R247 Joe stans are the ones being Mary and her cunts followers. Always trying to blame Bash when Bash is irrelevant to that mentally unstable fandom.

I wonder what if one day DJL mods get tired of all the drama and leave, will these fans start being grateful that they had such an amazing update account for their favourite. I have never seen an update account that’s so consistent, resourceful and respectful all the time.

The whataboutisms from the Joe stans on here are crazy.

R250 They're way more patient than I am, I straight-up would have told everyone to fuck off and die years ago.

R251 Forever playing victims and when someone calls them out rightfully so, they revert back to shading Bash or indirectly Kit. Deranged.

R248 I mean yeah but it’s never worded as “kit fans”. Every shitty troll, lexxie, this girl, whoever else are assigned as “Joe fans” which I think is pretty unfair

R247 Joe stans on Twitter need to learn how to be subtle. No one would care if they weren’t so miserable (only talking about the ones that are cunts to djl or kit)

R254 Every time Lexxie and her crowd are posted on here it's pointed out in the same breath that they don't actually care about Joe.

The Italia girl isn’t just besties with Ils, she used to be the other half of the JBU account. Ils was the bash fan, and Valantina was the Joe fan. Before Joe and Badh split up JBU had almost as many followers as DJL. But once they split and it didn’t make sense to keep a joint update account DJL became the only consistent Joe update sight. I expect she’s bitter because she can’t compete.

R246 they're hilarious. Hopefully once S3 comes out they finally accept that Bash is irrelevant and not a part of heartstopper anymore and stop associating him

R256 yes generally by me because they’re labeled Joe fans and I always have to do the exhaustive song and dance to make sure they’re not associated with Joe. Just saying shitty people are shitty people and I don’t think you need to tie them to Joe.

If you people were honest with each other, you'd have pointed out by now that even the "normal" Joe stans all follow and interact with tweets made by biphobic, deranged assholes like Cindy and Lexxxie.

The only difference is that the assholes tweet their thoughts publicly, the other Joe stans keep it in their group chats and occasionally fire off an easily decipherable vague tweet.

R257 Isn't Italia some girl named Jan or Jen? Were there 3 people behind the account?

Carry on, just wanted to drop an underrated down bad horrendous face. They're too good in this scene, following each other's every movement.

R258 They are never gonna do that since they are still weirdly possessive over Joe. Nothing triggers them more than Kit and Joe. See DJL's Kit likes Joe's ass post. Sorry his ass is free to admire now and no longer belongs to your fav

R259 I do it every time I link her so I'm not sure what you mean by generally you, I feel like I've stepped into an alternate thread because we've literally never let the "Lexxie is a Joe stan" thing stick on here.

R264 as I said I just don’t like the labeling of “Joe fans are weird” associating them with Joe. Just say fans. That’s it.

R264 Yeah, the last time I brought them up (regarding the Diane casting stuff) I specifically made sure to call them out as generally awful human beings I hate and not as Joe stans.

Average Joe Locke stan.

For clarity of what I don’t like:

[quote] Joe’s fandom is so cunty

Implying his fans specifically are worse than others when (1) many of the cunts in questions aren’t even Joe fans, just Kit antis or bash fans (2) rest assured no other cast members “fandom” is any better. Just say “these fans are cunts” and don’t associate them with Joe.

R268 Springxlast runs the biggest Joe Locke page on Instagram. She's a fan. His fans are cunty.

R268 Dude, chill. I was talking about Italia girl and Rei, and that they, as Joe stans, not so secretly dislike DJL, which has always been a great update account and there’s nothing to hate about them. Unlike that weird KCI that deserves the dislikes.

R270 don’t think I need to chill, because I wasn’t aggressive. I simply suggested we not label assholes as “Joe fans”. And I would say the same about labeling people who are just assholes “Kit fans.” Pretty simple.

I think this same conversation happens on here like every week.

R262 That scene should have been 10 minutes idc

R273 Genuinely think they could get away with an entire bottle episode of just the two of them. It sometimes felt like that could happen when S3 was filming, just because it sometimes seemed like only Joe and Kit were constantly working.

So do we think Kit is currently working on a project or taking time to relax and suck dick?

This is really making the rounds the past couple of days, I saw Tobie like a tweet about it too.

R275 currently working and sucking dick. I feel both can be true

R275 Both. (I know he's not working on this right now, I just wanted an excuse to push this video again.)

R276 Leila also liked it on Instagram, I imagine it's made the group chat.

Think it’s safe to assume Joe will go see the play (schedule permitting)

R279 Godspeed.

(Bitchy comment aside, both Joe and Kit saw Fisayo in The Crucible twice so I fully expect them to show out for him again.)

R278 You get it. I know that project has most likely been cancelled but I need them to work together so badly

I don’t know if ScaryProfit6396 is still dms but please check your inbox, my username is Key_Signal_9682

Ok-Mountain-9709 for ScaryProfit6396, thanks

How is everyone finding out ?

BaguetteDarling on twitter , please DM me

how come the images look so close? are they from the filming day?

R285 Are you seriously asking people to DM you a name on twitter? Is this Lee’s 20th account?

R286 I read that tumblr post yesterday - surprised to see that tweet. Maybe I’m missing something but I don’t understand reading that and then choosing to amplify it (including their handle). I know nothing about bootleg culture, but you’d think someone who’s a “Broadway expert” would try to keep it low key.

Hstwt and their clout-over-common-sense approach.

R287 I guess it is. put R285 on ignore just in case

285 here

I may be an idiot but I am a very discreet one . Def a lover not a hater

But I get it.

i found out who he is long ago (but not before he went private) but still not interested tbh

hopefully its over and Joe moves on quickly

R279 Kit hasn't liked the post but Joe/Tobie/Will have, which adds to the vibe that he might be quiet right now because of work. I'm pretty sure that night Kit/Joe/Tobie were spotted by fans at a gay club, they were with Fisayo after seeing him in Crucible.

R289 If you look hard enough on facebook you can find him.

R292 thanks ….. not on fb but found him another way

We have no choice but to stan Aunt Diane.

again, can we all stop giving details and discussing how you found him? I haven’t, I don’t want to, and I don’t want to draw a fucking map for idiots on Twitter. Thanks.

R294 she enables shirtless kit and Joe and for that I salute their

Am scaryprofit. FYI, Reddit only works for me on my laptop so I check once a day or every two days. If you DM me on Reddit, please stop posting about it on here. No shade, I know I said to do that originally, but no need. Just message me on Reddit and I will get back to you within a day or two.

Some minor drama in the YR fandom since people are dramatically vague tweeting that it’s obvious Edvin is trying to move on from YR and it makes them sad. God knows what their reasoning is

R297 The faster they “move on” online the better. These fans are crazy. I expect the same treatment for Joe or Kit once they are done filming S4.

Joe and Kit clearly get along well irl, and they’re also very close to other cast members like Tobie. But they’re actors, who are doing other projects and will do even more when s4 ends. I expect the HS cast to stay somewhat friendly for years. They’ll be nice to each other when at the same events, and various combinations will stay closer friends. But they’re all going to move on. This is a job. The fact fans don’t realize that is so strange.

R298 Joe will 100% deal with this when Agatha drops and he has to do a ton of promo. Hstwt will be passive agressive cunts.

R299 They’re already doing that in between seasons. Sometimes Joe and Kit don’t see each other for half a year because of work commitments. Without s heartstopper season to film, who knows how long they will go without seeing each other. That’s life, like you said. I can see Yaz moving to New York in a few years, Will touring more and more and Joe back in Atlanta for a while.

So what they’re mad about (I did a deep dive) is that Omar is promoting the final season more than Edvin; that Edvin hasn’t denounced his new film because the director is a Zionist; and that Edvin posted two stories from the SAME POST by Netflix Nordic; one for his new film and one for YR… and he should have posted the YR one first:

Agreed with others above, if Joe idk promotes the last episode of Agatha and doesn’t repost some random Netflix post hyping S3, it won’t matter that he does other promo, the fans will lose it. Also lots of calling Edvin a privileged white man and saying he doesn’t value YR because it’s queer and he’s not and he needs to remember YR fans made his career. They’re lovely.

R299 I mostly hope fans know that these friendships can exist outside of social media. We've already noticed that cast birthday stories are minimal now, so if Kit's birthday comes round and Joe doesn't post a story, hopefully people would skip the theories about how they aren't close anymore and come to the conclusion that he wished him happy birthday privately. As he probably did with Will and Olivia last week.

I'm not in YR fandom, so I can't speak to any drama happening there. But their final season is coming out, along with a full documentary. They should still get some parting messages from the YR cast.

R302 I still can't guess whether Heartstopper S3 will overlap with Agatha at all. Agatha will span roughly two months since they release episodes weekly. I get that people want a S3 release date around the winter months because of This Winter vibes, but I honestly don't know if Netflix would delay it that long, especially when they love doing Heartstopper stuff for Pride month. And I don't think fans would be down for splitting the season when episodes are so short.

R303 I think Will’s birthday more or less confirmed to me the speculative theory that at least for the four guys, theyll post a happy birthday if they’re there with the other person on that day but otherwise keep it private. Pretty smart and a good way to avoid the fan drama of “oh he likes X better than Y.”

R299 maybe I’m corny but I do think Kit and Joe especially will be legit friends for life, but overall agree with you that there will likely be periods where they’re not in the same country for over a year due to work and where their friendship is not public and is just via texts and FaceTimes fans aren’t privy to — and that’s fine

For the gays

This should be discussed

R306 truly every ounce of body fat went to his ass

r308 perfect twink in all of existence

R309 So perfect that only the fraus here salivate over his looks. Never seen such a “perfect twink” before

I did some poking around and this time last year, Rachel teased that her Broadway debut is coming "sooner than everyone thinks." I've seen people float Evita, Eurydice in Hadestown, or originating Emma Stone's role in the La La Land musical that's been in development. Don't know if Kit is interested in doing a Broadway musical, but the male lead of La La Land doesn't seem like a bad fit.

R303 The Joe stans on here have already started preemptive damage control in case he doesn't post about Kit's birthday.

If Joe doesn't post, Joe's a dick. Kit spent two days with Joe for his birthday. Kit still posted for Joe birthday. Kit is also flying out to New York to see Joe in Sweeney Todd. Surely Joe can stop sucking prehistoric dick long enough to post?

R300 Joe is currently promoting a new project and not receiving any backlash from the fandom for it. You had to make up an imaginary scenario to pre-victimize him.

R312 Don’t you know Joe can do no wrong? Kit got shit on because be didn’t comment on Joe’s broadway post but Joe can fully not post for Kit’s birthday and it’s all good. But then when people bring up the double standards it’s unfair to Joe. That victim mentality is something.

JWA at LFW low-key bombed without Kit. Down 31% year-to-year.

And I checked just to make sure that I wasn't overestimating Kit, but he legit carried JWA at MFW the year before, even with 1.3M less followers than he has now.

His engagement is phenomenal

Surely he will go to Met Gala . Hopefully if filming he has a clause written in that he has 2 days off at start of May

R312 Joe literally has a show on Kit’s birthday, and even if he doesn’t post publicly, I’m sure he will tell Kit in private. It’s not like they need to report to you every step they make irl.

R317 I don't care if Joe posts or not (it would be sweet but I get that he's busy) but the idea that he won't get harassed by the fandom if he doesn't post is hilarious.

R311 Do we have any Broadway stans on here that would know what ended up happening with Evita? Sounds like the ART production happened without Rachel and I don't think I've heard anything about a Broadway production in ages, so it would make sense that Rachel possibly started looking for something else in the meantime.

The more I read the more I think the YR fandom might be even more unhinged than the HS fandom

Edvin getting dragged for being straight is the equality I've always dreamed of.

R320 I was going to say it comes from one of the male leads dating a female co-star in the show, but from what I gather, people are also anxious about the direction of YR itself and whether the main couple will be endgame. I know people felt S2 of YR didn't focus enough on the main couple, and one thing about Heartstopper is that it'll pretty much always be the Nick and Charlie show first and foremost, with their endgame status secured.

Wasia show tomorrow

Hope Kitbie go

R322 Thankfully the editors of S2 did the most to make sure the episodes were more about Nick and Charlie or else we would have had the same problem than YR.

R321 it is fairly fucked though when the majority of the reason they’re mad is Edvin and his gf got together during the film and they’re claiming it made him forget YR. I love Omar but Edvin’s acting carried S1; it’s not crazy that he’s promoting other things ALONGSIDE YR for S3. And one of the biggest perpetrators is literally a fan who says it’s worse to call Omar out for silence on Palestine than Edvin because Omar is a POC, and that she’s legit upset Netflix didn’t like her comment about Wilhelm being autistic and nonbinary. Like…

R324 I haven't watched YR so anyone can correct me on this, but I remember seeing some YR fans jealous of even the amount of kissing and casual affection Nick and Charlie had in S2. I think Heartstopper is in a pretty unique position in that even when they do have sex, it won't be like the sex is the main time we'll see physical intimacy between Nick and Charlie. They've been all over each other for two seasons already.

R314 waiting for the bash fans who still lurk here to claim he was the reason behind the 16Arlington success

Sorry to keep Yr posting but I’m obsessed. Theyre legit mad that one of Netflix’s events is an in person thing in Sweden that fans can enter a quiz to win and attend/meet the cast at, but that they won’t pay airfare or hotels for international fans. The delusion

R326 Yeah, they were mad about the lack of casual intimacy and that YR S2 was so angsty and one of the guys had a new boyfriend on the show? I didn't watch it either, but that's what I gathered from the internet chatter.

R329 Ya because they only kissed once and then had one sex scene. The straight couple has way more intimate moments and they were mad about that too. They keep saying they want YR S3 to be all rainbows and kisses and I'm like do you know what show you're watching? It's never going to be like that. That show is more dramatic and they actually have a better plot than HS.

Kit popped up to like one of the Slave Play posts.

R331 Kit and Tobie liked it almost at the same time, finally left the room those two

The way I didn't even know this girl existed a couple of weeks ago and now I see her pop up all the time with consistently shitty takes...

R333 she’s cursed. Her only contributions have been laughing off Joe threats, gatekeeping stuff until DJL posted and her clout went, and stanning imogen. Useless

Tobie liked manu's post

R335 Tobie likes everything so sadly doesn't mean much.

R333 Yes, her bugged eye screeching NICHOLAS will be peak comedy. There's a couple "Broadway experts" who used Joe to get a name for themselves randomly

R335 War is over

To 319, that production of Evita came and went. Even with Rachel's name associated, I don't believe the rumors of a Broadway transfer were ever too serious; reviews were pretty mid. I was much more interested in the City Center production pre-pandemic that split the title role in two, with Young Eva played, coincidentally, by Maia.

?????

Interesting none follow Slave Play but all liked. Def group chat sharing

R337 If anything gave me pause and made me consider the possibility of Kit and Tobie being a thing, it's that Tobie went out of his way to avoid liking any of the Kit Loewe posts after his interaction with Manu.

R339 Love big brother. Go on Bradley.

R340 it was cross posted with Jeremy’s insta I think, so the people who followed Jeremy saw it that way. But agree overall people prob dropped it in a GC

R339 would weirdly make sense, he’s recently become good friends with the gay couple from the last season of big brother

R339 If true, hopefully he doesn't get too much hate. Not sure about the demographic of BB and nobody knows who he is

R338 I could understand Maia being upset if Rachel got Evita, just because the character is very much from Argentina, while the Maria situation from WSS was a little murky since neither Maia nor Rachel shared her Puerto Rican identity.

R346 Is there a role for Kit in Evita?

R347 No, it's why the speculation that Evita isn't happening is interesting. Something where Kit could have a role might be what Rachel's looking at doing now instead.

R338 Evita definitely seems dead in the water. Other revivals mentioned with it have started and closed already.

As for La La Land, Ben Platt's dad is producer, so he'll prob figure out a way to be in it

Somewhat interesting, I said Bradley was friends with the Big Brother gays because he hung out with them legit 2 weeks ago but I checked and they’ve unfollowed each other now

R350 Big gay fight/orgy gone wrong or maybe trying not to leak the thrilling information about BB

They both just have gorgeous faces

Screaming in jealousy. The YR fandom has so much that we don't.

R353 Replies say this was from YR S1. I won't be surprised if there are more intimacy coordinator interviews for Heartstopper S3, though.

David is too boring to get anything like that from him, but I might be in the minority where I like the comments we get from people like Euros more than stuff like that.

Congrats to Bash for signing with a mid American agency that has....a bunch of clients I've literally never heard of.

R352 I keep mentioning that one of the things about Heartstopper is how attractive and perfect the leads are

R352 they do. Thanks for the reminder because I always forget that that account exists. It'd be really cool to have frames for next season, too.

And going through the recent ones, if someone can cast K&J to play angsty enemies-to-forbidden-lovers in a cool interesting period piece as their acting reunion sometime within the next five years (thinking of The Favourite for example), I'd really appreciate it. I know its cliche but I'm a sucker for the aesthetic, what can I say.

R357 they both have the opposite of iPhone face. Could absolutely buy them in a period piece. If someone wants to stick them in some queer romantic poet themed gothic horror please do

R355 Gotta love Euros clashing all the Joekit shippers dreams when he basically said Joe and Kit are like robots when they do their kissing scenes lol

R335 They've produced a few good shows/movies, but not sure who their actors are.

R355 “Two spirits who are aligned” is still one of the cheesiest things anyone has said about Joe and Kit.

R355 It’s weird atp your obsession with Bash. Def sound like a Twitter frau.

No shade to YR, but while HS intimacy is PG, the leads' acting skills are more even, and the chemistry is superior imo. Omar is gorgeous but I got bored of the show the first season because I could never tell what he was supposed to be thinking or feeling. Like someone mentioned before, Edvin definitely carries that show acting wise.

R359 I don’t remember that. What did he say?

R363 Yeah, I didn't make it beyond the first season either. It's easy to see why Heartstopper blew past it when it came out.

R364 He never said that.

R359 Eh, Euros dropped plenty of other mushy quotes about them. I don’t think the idea of on-screen kissing being clinical and choreographed is new to anyone, and Joe and Kit have said it themselves. It'd only bother people if the kissing scenes lost their magic, which they haven't at all.

R357 While I wouldn't say no to Kit as Hulkling, it really would be fun for them to play romance tropes that are completely opposite to Nick and Charlie's. I remember they did an interview circa S1 where they were throwing out random genres they could do together, I think it was a gangster film from Kit and action/adventure from Joe e.g. Goonies. I can clearly remember Kit sort of laughing to himself as he said "Joe Locke and Kit Connor in Goodfellas."

Pretty much the opposite of robots, actually

R364 Of course, I was being dramatic. You guys can relax. I'll try to find it but he said something along the lines of 'They are professionals and when they hear cut they stop. The kissing scenes are all preestablished.'

R364 I think they're heavily paraphrasing this interview about the choreography of kissing scenes. Robotic isn't used as a description.

R363 Omar did well S1 for a brand new actor — Joe is basically a prodigy in that regard so the comparison almost feels unfair — but I think Joe grew so much S1 to S2, and Edvin and Kit also continued growing, while Omar did as well but less. So HS S1 started with more even talent levels annyway and then Joe really improved a lot s2 to even the playing levels further. Whereas I legit do think Omar is pretty good but think Edvin is noticeably better

R368 That's just how acting is. I mean, they aren't kissing for real regardless, it's their job. Lucky them.

R368 Got it. R369 Euros is hilarious ngl. I miss him. I hope he comes back for season 4.

I mean, scenes between people who are dating/fucking in real life are also fairly choreographed and those people are also snapping in and out of character. There's no time to fuck around all that much, you're not playing yourself, and you have to make sure you get the angles and lighting just right. That being said, it's funny to compare Euros's "planning drains the kiss of emotions" versus David's "yeah, sometimes biology kicks in and I have to give actors a boner break."

R367 I'll drop the search link for DJL and Euros quotes, such a goldmine.

R371 Right. I just found the way he phrased it funny but you're absolutely right and some fans needed that reminder anyway.

Euros would have done wonderfully with S3. Looking forward to Newberry's work, though.

Hilariously at the time, they released that article after Euros accidentally heavily implied that the guys improvised the kissing in the opening montage. I think he was trying give David his dues and squash that rumour which was everywhere. Of course it’s all choreographed. The boys are upfront about that

The "spirits aligned" DJL tweet because I like the choice of pic.

I know it's cheesy af, but it's still nice that even people who've been in the industry for a long time can tell there's something special in those N&C scenes. Like the middle aged interviewer someone brought up recently, who asked them about rehearsals because he was blown away by "the chemistry between you two...".

I'm basic but I just enjoy people responding like that to fictional queer couples.

But yeah, when fans start talking about the "improvised kisses" in the little improved bits, the second-hand embarrassment is too much. Like there's no coordination, blocking or anything that needs to be set beforehand so they can get the right shot, they just suddenly start kissing lol

R377 People don't seem to get that both things can be true. Either of them can suggest a kiss or that a pre-scripted kiss be done a certain way and then they work through it on set to make sure that it lands on screen.

R377 Yeah, I've noticed fans trying to squash the idea that the kiss during the prom montage is improv, too. It's safe to say that whenever these montages involve improv, the kisses are still scripted. Things like the couch cuddle from that same montage might have been more improvised, at least in terms of whatever they were whispering to each other. Same with their signature dance move making it in. I don't have the link on me but someone on Twitter grabbed the JoeKit dance and compared it to Nick and Charlie (not the slow dance, but the shot where they're holding hands).

R379 HS fans don't get nuance and that they didn't tell Kit and Joe to go make out with no input so they can record it. Sorry people who say that's Joe and Kit and not Nick and Charlie because I like to imagine Joe and Kit actually fucking around wouldn't be nearly as tame.

R376 I'm just hoping it doesn't follow the current trend of "too dark to tell what's happening on screen"

R379 yep, exactly - they're improving around certain marks and cues, they're not vlogging

R379 absolutely. I assume with those party scenes that Alice’s lazy arse didn’t script that on the day the boys, Euros and David talked through what they would do. They guys must know what looks good by now too so it would be much easier than S1. I will always find funny that clip where they both shrug and say in sync “that’s the job” about the kissing

R317 Joe has time to post about Liv’s tour while he’s at work. If he doesn’t post for Kit’s birthday it’s because he couldn’t be bothered.

R381 given Kit’s comments they can safely assume any real kiss between him and Joe would have his hand on joes ass. Absence of such in the show is a telltale sign

R383 Also that cute Joe quote where he's praising Kit as an acting partner and he's like "when you have to kiss this person again and again and again and again."

R384 Joe's on Instagram during each intermission. Joe has the time to post.

R355 his fans are insisting this is “karma”, against who or for what o don’t know

Just got an ad for Challengers, which reminds me we might see Kit pop up at one of the premieres because of the movie's connections with Jonathan and Loewe. I imagine Kit would attend a London premiere, but maybe a New York one if he's in the city by then. The movie comes out April 26th.

R388 funny how frequently this word comes up for that group

R388 These are dumb stans. This is not karma. It’s just the results of a steady, flourishing acting career. Come back to talk when Joe’s been a working actor for more than 10 minutes.

R388 Apparently against Kit, the guy signed to a major American agency and co-leading a DreamWorks movie with an Oscar winner.

R392 Didn't someone try to deny that Joe's fandom is cunty yesterday? That aged well.

R392 they are truly stupid

Except Austin’s main agency is WME and Jonathan’s is CAA.

R393 They have problems with everyone in that cast. They’ve even started shading Tobie. Deranged.

R395 Lmao. If your fave is so successful why are you so insecure? Cry about it.

R395 Insider DLer will have to explain what the fuck they even do since yeah, they claim a lot of actors who have other reps. Austin Butler has a long time agent

Not saying it's a bad career move for him, but it's not super huge from the sound of it. They are also randomly adding a lot of no-name celebs in the past month

R392 They are brain dead, but do appreciate they stopped trying to compare his career to Joe's at least. Though when Kit gets a slew of new projects, awards, endorsements and announcement they are going to look dumber than ever.

Will never get over them celebrating Billy Walsh having a release date like that's not the normal thing that happens. Guess they aren't used to him having a project come out in a reasonable time frame.

R399 I mean someone had to celebrate it I guess

The Joe stans taking it out on Kit when it's other Joe stans that hate Bash. Interesting.

UK Challengers premiere is on 22nd April I think

R399 The only reason they're not comparing it to Joe's is because they hate Kit more than they like Joe. Bash has yet to have a Nick in Heartstopper or Young Elton in Rocketman role, there's no comparison.

R400 12K people actually. Stay mad frau.

R401 That’s so embarrassing for them. If they think Joe would like that pathetic behavior, they’re more deranged than I thought.

R392 They're so miserable.

The grip on his back is hot. I need that job.

R407 micing Kit up must be one of the hotly contested jobs on set. S2 also

R403 idk why. Kit was very nice to Bash and Joe broke his heart and messed up his huge local community theatre play and had no respect for him as a person or an actor according to them.

R407 Arms are hot

R409 the first half of your comment really made me laugh. That hysterical fan was at least funny

Kit stans that are hating on Bash should focus that energy elsewhere bc that’s pathetic. Anyway.

apologies if already posted but a rather obvious observation

no way Marvel is gonna jeopardise a potential game changing character like Wiccan no matter how bad their movies suck

Wiccan is as niche as Ms. Marvel. Everyone saw how she bombed. Agatha will carry her show. A solo Wiccan show will be watched by a handful of white gays.

Kevin truly seems to have a lot of faith in his delicate twink

R412 I could do with losing Vision Quest.

R412 My guess is they’ll stay in development until they see how Agatha does and then decide if/when to move them into pre-production.

R415 Agree. Fuck Paul Bettany.

I could do with going back to The Avengers time of Marvel movies but as always I am looking forward to seeing Joe in everything he does.

What is this? Tbh they should keep this energy for the Bash trolls on Instagram. No one cares about that Ills gurl.

R418 I think they're implying that the Bash trolls on Instagram and Twitter are Ils and her group because she's one of the people who keeps going on about karma and one of the trolls is named Karma Karen, right? We've all suspected that they're Bash stans, anyway.

Not really a hot take from old mate Andrew (sorry buddy, I know you lurk) it was very obviously Bash fans. One of the most prolonged, relentless and unhinged cases of individual trolling in this fandom is on here. Bash stans have all the time in the world

They definitely aren’t going to move anything Wiccan/Vision/ect to pre-production unless after they see how Agatha performs. Based on everything I’ve seen about the direction they’re planning to go with Disney+ I highly doubt Visionquest or a Wiccan TV show will happen. Young Avengers could easily have White Vision as a mentor figure to bring him back. If they make a Young Avengers movie that is basically Children’s Crusade and ends with the return of Wanda it could be successful. But there are way more marvel projects “in development” than time slots available to air them. So I’m not expecting too much.

R418 That ias.karma (aka karen) troll is obviously someone in that group. I'll give you a dollar if you can guess who she sounds like

[quote] you still dont stage door ? dismissing ur own fans ?? the few coming to see you ??????? ungrateful. nothing new though. pathetic. embarassing. you should give them all a pay chequé for suffering your mediocre wannabe talent on stage! a chequé bigger then the d'cks you keep sucking to get casted in roles

and still wonder what karma has to do with booked, busy and successful Joe

Should say I’m the person who made the smart arse comment about it at R390 so not a hot take from me either

R421 yeah, I don’t have any faith in a Wiccan show with all the signalling from Bob and Kevin but I do like to joke about Kevin loving Joe. Because everyone does

Honestly I kind of think either way is a win win for Joe. At this age, steady leading work with a big audience is amazing so if a Wiccan show goes ahead, that’s fantastic. If it doesn’t and the next time we see Wiccan is a young Avengers film, it’ll free Joe up to do more theatre (even as original cast next time which would make him Tony/olivier eligible) and other projects.

My absolute dream scenario as someone who loves both Joe and Marvel is to have Wanda appear at the very end of Agatha, even if it’s just in a post credits scene. Then she’s back and can be slated back into the Avengers line up without the need for another movie.

I would then want the long awaited solo Scarlet Witch movie to come out between Avengers 5 and 6 and focus heavily on Wanda finding her kids. We already know where Billy is, but where’s Tommy? Joe would be a big supporting character in a highly anticipated movie, and also be well positioned to appear in Avengers 6.

Elizabeth Olsen sounds so unenthusiastic about Marvel whenever she's asked about it that I'm assuming she's getting multiple truckloads of cash to come back for the rumored Wanda movie.

R427 that’s funny that’s not what get from her. She hated MoM but she’s always been very protective of Wanda. I’ll never forget her on every Marvel red carpet she’s ever done for them answering ‘me’ every time she’s was asked “who’s the most powerful Avenger”. She also loves Jac. Wanda was fucked over in MoM but I think with the right team (and as you say, the right money) she’ll be plenty enthusiastic to come back

R428 I only really see the stuff from the trades and bigger entertainment sites, so I don't think I've ever seen the red carpet stuff. Just things like this.

R420 And you don’t? It’s been one year and you STILL have a chip on your shoulder about a breakout that wasn’t about you. What are you even mad about? Joe is on Marvel, he’s on Broadway, he has a hit Netflix show. What’s with the Poor Joe mentality? Do you realize how deranged you are for crying about him every day?

Any Wanda movie will probably be mostly a send off since she doesn't have much place in the universe anymore. Wanda is too all powerful at this point. I can see her coming back to fix the crap that was MoM anyway.

A Wanda sendoff movie written and directed by Jac that is also a launching movie for Wiccan would be fantastic.

R429 fair. I love Wanda so I track a lot of shit she says. She loves the character and she’s liked a lot of the ensemble stuff. I think, like ScarJo she’d do the proper send off.

R432 WARN A GUY PLS.

He’s so fucking hot

No, all of the unhinged trolls are Bash stans. Guess the random stock image icons throw off this low-IQ loser.

R432 Hot, supportive, unproblematic. Also lips. Him and Joe are blessed.

R432 he really is so fucking hot, love the hair

R432 Hot. Looks a bit slimmed down, but guessing it’s the angle.

R439 He stopped working out to audition for The Beatles movie. (Kidding.)

r436 The only "Kit" fan who hates joe is the cursed cunt. Actually every freaking cunt is a Bash stan. Mary is a bash fan, lexxie, cindy, etc all are bash stans, the joelockeitalia bitch who left up negative comments about joe praising bash up for hours is a bash stan

They pick Kit pfps for obvious reasons

R441 Bitch, please. You know it’s not . Why were so many Joe stans mad that the DJL admins created a Kit page account then? Why were they mad that Kit didn’t comment on Joe’s broadway post? You have to lie to make Joe stans look better but you’re not fooling anyone.

R439 he still looked hench in the photos from the other night so I think angle is probably true.

Kit being friends with Cameron is news to me, I thought they met at an event and that was about it. Insert joke about iconic TV ginger queers here.

R432 Damn! Kit should bless us with another gym video. Or shirtless tiktok.

R444 Kit’s a generous guy, could be he sent him the shirt and he was kind enough to do a pic

All feel free to shout me down but I wonder if that pic is a couple of weeks old at least. His hair looked more trimmed the other night (even slicked I’d say it’s shorter)

R447 I don’t think so because his hair was way shorter when he finished filming S3.

R448 just fluffy then

R432 I love his little pout.

[quote]Star of massive Netflix series set for Celebrity Big Brother – after signing huge deal

[quote]ITV bosses are also said to be thrilled to have landed someone from a show that is such a phenomenon with younger viewers. "Heartstopper is massive with Gen Z, which is a lucrative demographic that traditional channels like ITV have struggled to hook in in the past. They're hopeful that Bradley will bring the show's enormous fanbase with him and open Celebrity Big Brother up to a whole new audience."

Feel like they might be overestimating the amount of Heartstopper fans that'll watch for Bradley.

No shade to Bradley but find it hilarious how they’re saying star of Heartstopper or Breakout star of Heartstopper to refer to minor characters.

tbf Bradley’s team have done a fucking amazing job. He’s had much better coverage than bigger cast members (Tobie being a good example). Unfortunately he’s not actually a fan fav and a lot of them consider James a walking plot hole

So uh, when did Conan unfollow Kit on Instagram? He was definitely following him last week.

R454 maybe he hear about the hilarious rumours

R454 DRAMA. Finally.

R455 All that did was to fuel it, there's a ton of chatter about it now on Twitter. People were barely discussing it outside of the Reddit post before this.

R454 He was following him on Monday, I checked. R455 If he did, that's not helping much.

R454 He unfollowed one person a couple days ago. Guess he's over his ex finally.

R457 Since Conan is 25, I'll blame him no matter what happened. Just like I'm blaming Bash. You're older, you should know better.

R455 I was joking - that’s the obvious outcome. Who knows why. Maybe he did a cull

And after me saying the whole theory was stupid. More fool me.

I will say people can of course have feelings and be hurt by things but a 24 year old going on and being angry publicly about how their “first real boyfriend” broke their heart when that boyfriend is a teenager is not a good look

Are we really going to lean into to Conan Kit theory? I love that for us

When did Conan say the guy dumped him?

R464 this. I thought the timeline didn’t actually work out

Conan is either extremely stupid in his attempts at putting distance between him and Kit because of the rumor or he's trying to ride this whole thing into getting more attention because unfollowing him and then posting a video of yourself singing some sad-ass song wearing the shirt that people connected the two of you with is crazy as hell.

R462 Conan is kind of full of shit. He said he never kissed anyone when he was 20. Wasn't until 2023 he admitted he finally kissed someone. Please why are you lying

In this interview. Conan said he was on a plane to see his man and the guy broke up while in the air to go back with his ex.

R466 Like it has to be true or else he is really stupid. If it's true, he's still stupid for fucking with a teenager and thinking it was going to last.

R466 He's so messy. Isn't that the shirt Kit wore to Disney with Maia.

Nah sorry these people who should know better (on the platonic end Harry lambert, bash’s friends who are 4 years plus older than Joe; on the romantic end potentially Conan with 5 years on Kit and Tal/Bash) at their big ages shitting on teenagers is vile and pathetic

R466 what the fuck. Okay if you’re going to wear your Elton shirt and unfollow young Elton on main you are clearly sign posting. Old enough to know better. Hope Kit’s doing okay

R468 Love that for Kit honestly. Just how I love Joe hearing Bash's accent, dumping him, ruining his play and getting his ass ate by a professional

R468 the irony of him whining about (potentially) his teenage ex on the Zach Sang show given the age of Zach’s boyfriend

TBC I hope Kit’s doing okay because Conan is being a messy bitch. I wonder who the ex was Kit reconnected with (now I’m the messy bitch) - I very much doubt Maia.

R470 Answering my own question, it is. Potato quality sorry

R474 Tea? How old is he?

Choosing to say kit knew the superior pretty curly haired twink was coming back (Joe) and dumped Conan.

I highly doubt Kit “went back to an ex”. Conan is a fucking drama queen. Kit probably liked two Maia posts back to back after he ended what Conan himself describes as “on and off” (so long distance on and off: read FWB) thing and Conan decided they were fucking again

When did this relationship supposedly happen? Specific time period? Because I cannot even think of an ex Kit would've gone back to. Kit and Maia haven't been together since the Argentina trip and he got together with Maia after Sof, so there was no Sof repeat.

R476 It is, but it doesn't look like it's the same exact shirt since Kit's is faded as hell. So did Conan buy one to twin with him or what?

I’m leaning all the way in on this and am going to talk about it like it’s fact but obviously there is LOTs of gaps and very little evidence short of Conan being a weirdo

R477 Zach is 30 and the boyfriend was 21 when they got together. Not the worst I’ve seen but still find it weird

wait i seriously thought that the whole kit/conan thing was us just talking shit, it was fr?

I thought it was strange that Kit stopped liking Conan's posts altogether but I didn't want to believe they were actually a thing. Conan is a grown man and he's acting like Taylor Swift.

R482 I'm like 50/50 at this point with the unfollow, sad EJ shirt song. Though think Conan is full of shit about certain details

R484 I will say the 60 to 0 on liking all Conan’s posts within minutes to barely liking is also a factor: again though Conan is the dick here if it’s true

R482 I mean Conan could be shit stirring (I know very little about his sm) but he’s on main playing sad songs wearing an Elton shirt (which to be clear I don’t think is kit’s) and unfollowing him. It’s weirdo behaviour

If you are in an on/off long distance fwb saying they aren't gonna see you anymore isn't dumping you honestly. That's how those things go. Don't know who the ex could be

(just speaking as if it were true since I enjoy Kit finally having some drama and it'll piss off the queer baiting cunts)

R481 What's with these 30-year-old inept men? Fucking weird.

I mean Conan has really misplayed his hand and misread his audience if he’s trying to start shit. Even personal feelings of my own aside, his much more famous best friend (Olivia) has openly talked about realizing how weird guys in their 20s are for getting with her age 19, the same age gap as Kit and Conan, kit has a very rabid fanbase, and he had a really awful coming out experience that garnered public support. Trying to bash him for “breaking up” an “on and off” thing is unwise.

I wonder if Conan just interpreted being “dumped” as an indication that an ex was involved because he’s a jealous bitch. I’m at work so I’m flying blind here (and ignoring emails) can someone give me the three dot point version of Conan’s claims on the podcast. I would be extremely grateful

R485 Someone needs to run the timeline in detail. The Tesco dates and him flying to London is also suspicious. Agree, either way Conan is a weirdo.

When Conan's album comes out and he has lyrics about his heart being stopped I'm going to cackle. As the person that pointed out all of the likes initially way, way back when, I really did think I was just pointing out his very blatant type.

Also gonna be a real bitch and say: Conan said that he was flying to London to see him, not that they’d planned a trip. If a FWB/“on off” thing you’re not feeling suddenly announces to you that they’re coming to visit you without warning then yeah, a plane text of “err I’m really not feeling this” is merited

R492 as someone with selfish motivations just gonna say it makes all the “Joe isn’t his type” claims even funnier

In the negative Will liked a post of Conan’s a few days ago but admittedly that was before today’s little performance

R495 I mean back in October Kit liked a post of his and in November Joe commented. This is more recent public pettiness

R495 Yeah that's another thing that makes me doubt it's true. Don't think Joe would be buddy buddy with Conan if he was that much of a weirdo to Kit. Also don't think Will would like his posts still.

Okay, so if we're revisiting everything, might as well backtrack to the couple in his most recent video wearing outfits similar to the ones in R476. This whole thing feels like a stunt.

R496 Conan also liked one of Kit's posts in September. We really do need a timeline of the alleged relationship.

R497 tbf they were all friendly with bash until he started acting a COMPLETE freak to joe and even now kit tobie and will sometimes like his posts, likely to be polite. Conan’s kit antics only started recently. If all we see on his posts from here on out is an occasional like, I think that doesn’t rule this out

R494 Lmao!! It doesn’t help your case actually because Joe and Conan look nothing alike. Only thing they have in common is black hair.

where is the guy that made the spreadsheet when you need him

Oh and he’s in London. Clearly whatever catch up they had did not go the way he wanted it to

Not Kit having a magic pussy that drives older men crazy, too???

R502 was going to say, Brady reposted his story so likely styled him

R502 He's WHAT? Oh my god.

R503 to be expected

R503 without stereotyping femme twinks too much in this case think it would be a magic dick

R504 This is so juicy.

When did Conan start working with Brady?

R507 Yeah, felt weird as I said it but the magic pussy thing on here makes me laugh, so I’m going with it.

R505 in London reading Wuthering Heights. This all feels too much. I’m kind of with R498 feeling very fucking curated. Would he really use Kit as a stunt?

R511 It better be true because using a teenager to gain traction for his shitty music is worse.

R512 Not true* ffs

R511 he is a damn stunt queen i didnt even clock the book

R509 Going through Brady's feed right now, earliest I've found Conan on there so far is June 2023 for a Behind The Blinds shoot.

Given he’s in London a stunt seems less likely and him getting pissy if he hit Kit up and Kit said no feels more likely

R516 Ok what does a stunt mean?

Another negative and not to be a bummer (love the gossip, pointed out the book) but those outfits and couple in the clip are passable approximations at best. If this other shit wasn’t going down I wouldn’t have made that link at all

R516 I only heard a bit of the podcast but Conan straight-up said he fell in love with the person and it was on and off for only 6 months? And they weren't in the same country for large chunks of it? Between that and Maia traveling to Paris for Kit his dick must be bomb.

R517 That he's purposefully trying to make it seem like Kit is his ex for clout/attention.

R517 what? I wasn’t the original person who said stunt. But my take on it was they meant Conan was doing it for publicity. My take was that BECAUSE Conan was in London, with Kit’s hair guy, etc., I could more easily see him texting Kit an “I miss you”, “let’s just meet up for one drink”, getting turned down, and getting mad and unfollowing

R517 that either Conan is making the whole thing up from the beginning to build hype for his album or he’s got wind of the rumour and is now exploiting it by using a bunch of sign posts it’s true to build hype for his album. Either way he’s a fucking messy bitch. And if it’s true he’s then he’s more than messy he’s a cunt

R519 Oh got it, thanks. That's pretty shitty either way. He's a freak.

R519 Joe and Kit are truly magical. Maia and Conan travelling for Kit’s dick, literally every man joe gets with getting uglier and more pathetic when he’s done with then

R519 between Kit’s magic dick and joes magic pussy, them fucking is a NEED. Their sex would be absurdly good

Nothing really sets the alarm like a public unfollow. Conan knows what he is doing.

R525 Especially with R459 pointing out that Kit is the only person he unfollowed. So it's not like he was clearing out accounts he doesn't interact with a lot or something. He went out of his way to only unfollow Kit.

R525 laughing at all the Twitter Conan fans insisting it’s not true because he’d never fuck a teenager. If he thought this would get him public support he misfired

I should just tell you all when I have a massive deadline because it’s like fucking clockwork that something dramatic finally happens

R459 I mean, if Kit caught wind about that lookalike music video couple I'm sure he couldn't say no fast enough.

R527 like people already had a thing against maia because of her age and Conan thought he was going to fare better, like is he delusional?

R530 yeah plus even people who might be ok with a 24/19 age gap will generally still think it’s shit for the older person to then shit on or be petty about the younger one after

R529 If true, all this whining about his ex just makes him sound *tw* pathetic. You look stupid and sound creepy, sorry to say.

I am enough of a Conan fan to have some potential details. Conan lies a lot. A lot of his songs are about things that happened to his friends not him, and he’s very sarcastic. Also he was an awkward gay kid in Texas who had a massive crush on his straight best friend and wrote two albums about unrequited love. In his Zack Sing interview he basically said that he actually liked someone who liked him back, but it didn’t last long. Long distance FWB, but that’s way more real than crushing on a straight guy.

And they supposedly broke up last June.

Meant to reply to the comment about Conan trying to reconnect with Kit while in London, the number didn't copy and I'm too lazy to look for the comment again.

R533 June 2023? Does Anyone remember what Kit was doing?

In this Zach Sang interview he says he'd do it again in a heartbeat. Honestly just makes me want Kit's dick even more (allegedly).

R533 Kit did like a post in July.

R535 Joe

R535 We had dc pride and joe coming back to the uk in June of last year so.. take from what what you want

R535 Hanging out with Tobie and Joe.

hanging out in Tesco....

R536 If he liked a post in July then it's not true. Conan is just being messy.

R541 Kit liked all of Maia’s posts for months after they called it and is the dumper (according to Conan). I don’t think that’s a good indicator, particularly if Conan has just got really messy in the last 24 hrs

R538 Ngl this makes it even less likely. Joe and Kit were never exes.

The getting back with his ex line could absolutely be a lie. Because it’s a story that works well in future songs. Nobody wants to buy an emo breakup album about your fwb getting board.

"The first date we ever went on we spent most of it in a grocery store because it started pouring outside....in a Tesco."

This video came out in May and that's why he set it in a grocery store. Kit liked the first post about the video but not the subsequent 4.

R545 So the breakup was in June 2022? When did Kit stop liking Conan's posts?

Adding, Conan doesn't know if the person knows the video is about their first date, doesn't want to know if they know, and hopes that they don't.

He calls the upcoming album his "menace" album, so if it's about Kit we're going to be able to tell, I think.

R546 I think Conan fan meant June 2023?

Will also say it’s possible the ex wasn’t kit BUT that our Conan hitting kit up theory is still true. If he slid into his DMs last night and kit passed could see that making him pissy

R548 That would be weirder because imagine being that pissy about a non-hookup and unfollowing them on main?

R549 to be clear Conan is a fucking freak either way, just proposing an alternative theory

I think Kit's last like was in July, someone else double-check. Conan's last one was in September. And then they were at the same party in October.

Am I the only one who thinks this rumor is pathetic? These are just dumb assumptions and just because one person made it up on Reddit, anyone can make up a rumor, and Connan might unfollow Kit just to get attention, because he found out about this rumor, like someone said in the comments above. It’s publicity for his next album.

Need Kit to unfollow Conan so we know if it's true.

R552 I think this is the most sensible answer. Conan is still a weirdo for using that rumor to sell his dumb music.

R552 it’s a rumour and this a gossip board, not sure what your point is

R554 no shade but you think Conan seeing a very under the radar rumour and using it weeks later for promo is more likely that him being a petty bitch about getting too in his feelings over a FWB thing?

R552 I think Conan is a moron either way in whatever this situation is, but I can't tell what kind of moron. If it's bullshit, Conan is a freak for 1) unfollowing Kit over a random Reddit post, 2) not trying to even be subtle about it, and 3) posting the video with the Elton shirt Kit has right after. The shirt specifically came up in the Reddit comments. If he knows about the post, he knows about the shirt stuff.

R556 Conan is a small enough artist that I wouldn't really put it past him to keep an eye out on his main community on Reddit.

R556 There are too many things missing to make it real. I would need a reaction from Kit.

Although, Kit not liking any posts since July is something

R557 Do we know if Conan was following Kit's finsta?

R559 kit is so low key, doubt we’ll see anything big. Joe took months to unfollow even bash’s annoying friends for instance

R561 He didn't from his public account, but we can't rule out a finsta to finsta follow.

I really hope we see Cori getting cast in more stuff soon, she's one of the strongest young actors in my opinion.

I mean its night time in the uk rn anyways, might be sleeping so maybe we will get a reaction from him tomorrow if anything is legit. Does Conan have a finsta, i dont pay attention to him like that

R552 If Conan faked it to sell records, he is dumber than dumb.

This is so funny. Dying at his fans roasting him.

If the ex does end up being Kit he inspired two albums worth of songs which is kind of slay of him.

R564 Olivia's mentioned having one so I assume he has one, too.

6 days ago.

R568 Extremely dramatic for a 25 year old man to do regardless of Kit or not, it was a summer fling dear

Superache is about Conan’s high school crush. He recorded it during Covid so it was all about getting over things that happened in the past. Found Heaven will be the first album about Conan’s London based Tesco boy. Still very slay that if Kit ended something that was always super casual and is still referred to as Heavenly.

R562 true though when Sof lost her gd mind he unfollowed (I assume she was psychotic about Maia). That was a few year ago though and he’s older now

It's like hoodie-gate all over again, lol

Joe and Kit need to fuck each other instead of other people since they are ruining men and women. Menaces

Did Conan have another ex after the maybe Kit ex? All of this shit is so confusing. Come back, timeline-making gay.

R570 The video is from September, he's still making videos about the same guy? Christ.

R574 Heather is from Conan’s very first album and references the Third of December, so that video was about a four year old song. Which was written about a guy Conan never dated, because Conan was jealous of the girl he was actually dating.

R574 He says something like that every Dec. 3rd about how he's alone and single.

R572 hoodie gate was crazier, maybe because it went down us time, i remember the thread going crazy fast. Conan is just looking pathetic and like a weirdo

R578 Tbf Hoodie gate was crazy but everyone was pretty chill with Bash until he started acting like a freak online. Conan is already there. Can't imagine what would have happened if Bash unfollowed Joe on main, randomly.

R578 Hoodiegate was a flood of realizations at once, this has been a slow trickle. And is less definitive than hoodiegate so far, so I think a lot of us are holding back due to the uncertainty.

Honestly, I wouldn’t make a big deal about it publicly or write an album about it, but I can’t guarantee that I also wouldn’t lose my mind after being broken up with by Kit.

Unfollowing someone on main is so dramatic. Why not mute them? I see why Conan got dumped regardless of everything being true or not.

Conan timeline: perpetually single in high school, had a crush on a straight boy. Went to UCLA for one quarter before dropping out of college and signing a record deal. First EP was all about high school because he was 19. First album (Kid Krow) was also all about high school. He wrote several love songs and breakup songs in Kid Krow but then admitted in interviews it was all lies and he’d never kissed anyone.

Kid Krow came out in March of 2020 and he then wrote Superache during the pandemic. This is when he became friends with Olivia, because they have the same producer. Superache came out in 2022 and he said he had kissed someone by then but still never had a real relationship.

His third album Finding Heaven is coming out in April. This is the album about his first real love and heartbreak. Because he finally lost his virginity to someone who took him to Tesco for their first date.

Also, Conan’s stories constantly change and he contradicts himself in interviews all the time. Most of his songs are about things he didn’t personally experience, and he has a very sarcastic sense of humor. So he lies a lot. Nothing he’s said or will say about his heavenly ex should be taken at face value. He’s writing music, and also mostly keeping the details of his personal life private.

R583 Not Kit deflowering Conan?

I'm still 50/50 on this since it'd make more sense to me if Conan unfollowed earlier, but how awkward if true when Louis is friends with Kit, and Olivia is friends with Joe who is friends with Kit.

[Quote] Because he finally lost his virginity to someone who took him to Tesco for their first date.

R583 regardless of the veracity of the rumour this is an excellent summary

Not to be dramatic, but if I at 25 lost my virginity to a 19 year-old...you wouldn't be able to waterboard that out of me.

but also tesco on a first date, raise your standards conan

R587 same, you would never get that infotmation out of me, like that secret is going to the grave

R588 In maybe-Kit's defense, sounds like they wound up there because of inclement weather, not because that was the main destination.

R583

[quote] Because he finally lost his virginity to someone who took him to Tesco for their first date.

Dying. If there is a five guys mention we know it's Kit

R588 Legit that is what makes that rumor the most plausible! Only a teenager would bring his date to Tesco (sorry Kit).

This thread is almost full. I noticed someone started another thread at the same time as this one. So when this is full we can pop over there.

I'm sorry, I know there's a good chance this is all bullshit, but if Kit really went from fighting queerbaiting allegations to devirginizing famous men in under a year he deserves a medal.

R583 That's why we need another reaction from someone else. Conan is an unreliable narrator.

Imagine being Kit waking up to a late night message from Tobie saying “apparently you fucked Conan and then dumped him”. Because Tobie is definitely name searching the boys

R596 oh if anyone is spilling the gossip its Tobie, i need more viral tweets because so far ive only seen randoms

Fuck what a day to be stuck in meetings all day. FWIW I'm skeptical of a Conan relationship. Kit seems to like more confident people.

R598 I could see him being flexible on that for someone he finds extremely hot. Reminder that it wasn't just Conan's Instagram he was all over, he also was liking the posts Conan would show up in on Olivia's Instagram. Whether they were a thing or not, I definitely do think Kit thinks or thought Conan was hot.

R432 Jesus he's so fucking hot.

R598 see I can see that fitting into the whole arc. Conan definitely comes across very outgoing and overtly confident up front and I can see Kit liking that. Then as they continue hooking up he realizes just how much reassurance and affirmation Conan needs, how needy he is, etc and realizes it’s not for him. Ofc this whole thing could also be bullshit