The end of Che Diaz? Sara Ramirez hints they have been AXED from And Just Like That due to pro-Palestine stance

[quote]'While they award 'lgbtq orgs', they are silent on those orgs ties to weapons manufacturers who are currently supporting the Israel military as it commits genocide on Palestinian lives that include [bold]LGBTQIA2S+[/bold] lives.'

Oh, go throw yourself off a roof, honey.

And Just Like That star Sara Ramirez has hinted they've been axed from the Sex and the City spin-off over their pro-Palestine stance - then insulted their 'performative' character.

Ramirez, 48, a non-binary actor who plays Che Diaz, and who uses they/them pronouns, on Tuesday shared a series of posts on Instagram implying they will not return for the third season.

'Our industry is so duplicitous,' the former Grey's Anatomy star wrote, the night after the Emmy Awards.

While they give awards away, casting directors and agents are making blacklists of actors and workers who post anything in support of Palestinians in Gaza to ensure they will not work again.

While they award 'lgbtq orgs', they are silent on those orgs ties to weapons manufacturers who are currently supporting the Israel military as it commits genocide on Palestinian lives that include LGBTQIA2S+ lives.'

Ramirez mocked people who need awards - ridiculing them as something 'shiny' that makes people 'feel special and powerful.'

But the performer said it was a dark time to celebrate, while thousands were dying in Gaza. Ramirez previously took to the streets of Brooklyn waving a transgender flag at a Palestinian protest.

'It's wild how performative so many in Hollywood are,' she said. 'Even more performative than the last character I played.' IMDb listed Che as Ramirez's most recent role.

And Just Like that the show improved tenfold.

[quote] Ramirez previously took to the streets of Brooklyn waving a transgender flag at a Palestinian protest.

[quote]'It's wild how performative so many in Hollywood are,' she said.

It's amazing how blind to themselves people can be.

And just like that, Ramirez was never seen again.

[quote]Our industry is so duplicitous,' the former Grey's Anatomy star wrote, the night after the Emmy Awards.

Yes, an industry not exactly known for its ethics and integrity - what the fuck did you expect, you deluded talentless fuck.

And just like that Sarah aka They were sil and filing for unemployment benefits.

How's Cynthia Nixon's hunger strike going, by the way?

[quote] Ramirez also, in a separate post on Tuesday, thanked people who have stood by them, implying that she has been going through a difficult time.

[quote]'I am so grateful for the people in my life who have helped me, and are still supporting me, in healing and getting free,' she wrote.

[quote]'Thank you for helping me peel back the layers of conditioning, socialization and trauma.

[quote]'Thank you for helping me take responsibility for my own humanity as I continue to lean into the discomfort of growth and change.

[quote]'Thank you for not exploiting me and discarding me.

[quote]'Thank you for calling me in and holding me close while I forge a path of empowerment and authenticity.

[quote]'Thank you for reminding me my softness is one of my many superpowers.

'[quote]This is about being human and showing up with courage and curiosity no matter how bumpy the road there gets.'

What's the IA2S? Is that referring to the handful of people in Gaza who openly support non-straight life?

Hahahahahahaha!

It's good to see this cunt be knocked down a few pegs.

But if Che Diaz leaves And Just Like That, who on that show will teach us to live and laugh?

And who will finger-bang Miranda?

I do hope they bring Dolly Wells back as a potential partner for Miranda. As far as Che goes, we've had sufficient.

It’s pretty awful for an industry that booed Elia Kazan for accepting a lifetime achievement award at the Oscars for his participation in the HUAC Hollywood blacklisting to be behaving this way of their own volition.

good

I love Sara. I love everything Sara has done EXCEPT And Just Like That. The character of Che Diaz was a) not funny b) had nothing to root for and c) was just kind of a shitty person. Had nothing to do with being non binary. You can still be a crappy person and be non binary. I still want to see more non binary characters but NOT THIS ONE. AWFUL. Couldn't wait for Che to stop hijacking whatever seen they were in and just move to the next scene. Sorry Sara. Again I love you otherwise... like a lot.

[quote]due to pro-Palestine stance

Must be nice not having to cite "scheduling conflicts" or "creative differences."

Finally. That character was a fucking mess.

Could anything be MORE performative then attending a Queers for Palestine rally, trans flag in place, cute doodle dog in twee little pet carrier, with dog draped in the Palestinian flag?

[R19] so agree.

The audience so told the producers that we weren't into the Che Diaz character after season 1. And what do they do? They DOUBLED down on that lame character for season 2.

[quote]Could anything be MORE performative then attending a Queers for Palestine rally, trans flag in place, cute doodle dog in twee little pet carrier, with dog draped in the Palestinian flag?

Shame on you! Milo is their support animal! They NEED them there to feel safe enough to speak their truth!

Good. That character sucked the life out of every scene. And what the hell did she/they/it expect.? SJP is an exec producer on the show and she's Jewish. I'm surprised she hasn't knocked Nixon down a peg or two after that bullshit performative fast. Yeah, Cynthia your "Jewish" sons support Palestine so send them on over and see how fast their heads are separated from their bodies.

I apologize for these rude comments but sometimes I just reach my limit with these self-absorbed assholes. Let's see what deep thoughts Ramirez tweets when she can't make the rent.

Thank God. Now bring back Kim/Samantha full time if that is even possible or if there's enough money or green screens in the world that can make it happen. Only way to save that shit show of a revival.

I maintain a neutral stance myself but it seems these days in Hollywood that being Pro-Palestinian is the new Communist Party.

AI Samantha!

Kim Cattrall should lease them the rights to her character's appearance and demeanor from the 1990s to the show.

Make the woman she hates pay her money and not have to interact with her!

If my enemies had to pay me for their success, I'd be walking around half-erect all day long.

[quote]Ramirez, 48, a non-binary

We used to call them bulldykes

Oh MY GOD.

Take SOME accountability for the fact that you created a character everyone HATED. It is widely documented that Che Diaz was absolutely reviled.

Che was written insufferably and performed unsympathetically. Hey, sometimes shit doesn't work out. Hold your head up high and move on.

At 48, you're too old to be playing Gen Z intersectional victim of what were just shitty creative choices.

Ramirez also, in a separate post on Tuesday, thanked people who have stood by them, implying that she has been going through a difficult time.

[quote]'I am so grateful for the people in my life who have helped me, and are still supporting me, in healing and getting free,' she wrote.

'Thank you for helping me peel back the layers of conditioning, socialization and trauma.

'Thank you for helping me take responsibility for my own humanity as I continue to lean into the discomfort of growth and change.

'Thank you for not exploiting me and discarding me.

'Thank you for calling me in and holding me close while I forge a path of empowerment and authenticity.

'Thank you for reminding me my softness is one of my many superpowers.

My god what an idiotic narcissist.

We've been waiting for this for so long and now it's finally here, feels like a public holiday for DL. Doesn't even matter that the showrunner never saw the light and didn't axe her for creative purposes, I'm just glad she's gone.

Let's buy her a one way to Gaza.

r29 Christ, who talks like that? Where did these people come from? They're like a walking talking parody.

She is so hideous and so many people hated her character that she had provided an excuse for the tv people to get rid of her. I admit that she is super bull dykey, but she isn’t too different from the women I see in the gay district in Toronto, or at least ten years ago. Why uglify yourself beyond belief like that? I don’t get it.

She was quite attractive when she looked like a woman.

And Just Like That I may resubscribe to Max.

I seem to be chopped liver.

Remember when she first caught everyone's attention with SPAMALOT? She was considered so talented then.

I wonder if they'll have Che (played by a body double shot from the back) falling down an open elevator shaft in the first episode.

R32 Meghan Markle talks about peeling back layers. It sounds like bougie therapy speak.

R39- I think it's a combo of therapy speak and the ability to blather about it on social media. I don't think people were so up their own ass in the 'pre-internet' days.

She was probably fired just because she was horrible on this show and even on Grey's Anatomy.

Her character was even worse . No one liked Che

This will give her lots of time to go over to Palestine and help them

We have a genuine piece of shit posting at R39

[quote]It’s pretty awful for an industry that booed Elia Kazan for accepting a lifetime achievement award at the Oscars for his participation in the HUAC Hollywood blacklisting to be behaving this way of their own volition.

I felt like he deserved to be booed. He named names. He ruined people's careers.

Hollywood Power rankings

1. Jews

[LARGE GAP]

2. Everybody else, including non-binaries.

Leaked script from season 3, episode 1.

CHARLOTTE: and Rock seems happy with their new special friend they met at the Queers for Palestine event. Zion is a male non binary so Harry is going to have ‘the conversation’ with Rock.

CARRIE: oh that reminds me, did you see Che’s latest tiktok Miranda?

MIRANDA: it really is shocking that Mossad can use AI to make it look like Che told a load of jokes about Michelle Obama using the N word. Anyone who knows Che knows they only hate Jews and Pakis. Thankfully Che is in a safe house in Wisconsin while we look at her legal case.

ANTHONY: speaking of IDF, IDGAF about this whole shit. Those hot Jew boys in those cute uniforms though, such a waste or life! Now where’s my falafal?

Why are people dying on this hill? I mean, if they have an actual, specific tie to Palestine, I'd get it. There's conflicts all over the world at all times with groups of people getting forced out of their homes, killed, etc. Of course it's good to be compassionate, and I'm sure there people who are being genuine in their concern and activism. But, aren't a lot of people just latching on to this as the trendy cause? Do this many people really have this level of deep-rooted care for Palestine compared to anywhere else in the world?

Can they get the Porkalob woman?

Does this mean Cynthia Nixon is a goner also? Maybe the producers just wised up and realized Che was a horrible character.. Sara Ramirez sounds nuts. Maybe she woke up and realized being a they is just bullshit.

R29 Lol, sounds like ChatGPI programmed a Stepford They/Them.

‘ Thank you for calling me in and holding me close while I forge a path of empowerment and authenticity’

Hallmark should make a card with that on

[quote] Does this mean Cynthia Nixon is a goner also? Maybe the producers just wised up and realized Che was a horrible character.. Sara Ramirez sounds nuts. Maybe she woke up and realized being a they is just bullshit.

Cynthia took part in read through of South Africa’s court submission redefining genocide with Nazi Sarandon and various GoT actors.

When it comes to Israel/Palestine there is a mixture of hardcore anti Jewish obsessives (Sarandon) and idealogical narcissists (Nixon).

Shady As is in the latter.

I remember reading about this cunt years and years ago on the DL theater gossip threads. She was known for being lazy and crazy even back in the day when she was in Spamalot.

I think she should fly herself over to the West Bank and let everyone know that she’s a trans queer for Palestine. They really LOVE her type over there.

[quote]'I am so grateful for the people in my life who have helped me, and are still supporting me, in healing and getting free. Thank you for helping me peel back the layers of conditioning, socialization and trauma. Thank you for helping me take responsibility for my own humanity as I continue to lean into the discomfort of growth and change. Thank you for not exploiting me and discarding me. Thank you for calling me in and holding me close while I forge a path of empowerment and authenticity. Thank you for reminding me my softness is one of my many superpowers."

She is exhausting.

I think she got word they were axing her and she’s using this protest thing and lying about it as her out.

Out of what?

Of AFRICA, Rose/R55!

I love how she’s being judgy about actors winning awards when she herself won a Tony for Spamalot and was happy and grateful about it then.

Ludicrously suggesting they're the victim of a Jewish conspiracy (despite Cynthia Nixon's continued gainful employment), while shitting all over a character they passionately defended until now, isn't going to help Ramirez's employment woes.

That they returned for season two despite Che's unpopularity was a small miracle and a kind gesture they chose not to repay. Other writers and producers will take note of that, but if HAGS is still open, maybe they can wait tables there.

I despise Hamas, and what they did on October 7th is beyond the grasp of human understanding.

I am 100% behind finding each rabid animal who committed atrocities on that day and afterwards, and exterminating them, because history proves there is no quarter in a civil society for terrorists.

That said, what innocent Palestinians, ESPECIALLY Palestinian children, are currently experiencing is ALSO beyond human comprehension.

One can want justice for Israel AND innocent Palestinian civilians, all at once.

Whatever it takes.

The street protests over the loss of Che will exceed anything we've seen over Israel or Gaza.

How could she be whacked for her politics but not Nixon? It's bullshit. They know what the character did for the show and axed it to strengthen the franchise. HBO/Max is more revenue driven than ever. The days of making art as well are over, if it doesn't make money. This is a show that despite the feelings of SJP and Keebler did a Cattrall cameo. Pre-production is underway and shooting starts in March I gather from a crew member on Reddit.

Since she’s against awards, she should give back her Tony.

But that won’t happen.

Because she’s a phony.

Between she and Heigl and Isiah Washington (he musta been gnashing his teeth when Patrick Dempsey was named Sexiest Man Alive), the original Grey’s cast was … chock full of narcissistic nuts.

[quote]Why are people dying on this hill? I mean, if they have an actual, specific tie to Palestine, I'd get it. There's conflicts all over the world at all times with groups of people getting forced out of their homes, killed, etc. Of course it's good to be compassionate, and I'm sure there people who are being genuine in their concern and activism. But, aren't a lot of people just latching on to this as the trendy cause? Do this many people really have this level of deep-rooted care for Palestine compared to anywhere else in the world?

300,000 Syrians killed by Assad in civil war.. 1 million Afghanis just expelled from Pakistan. You can bet Sara, Cynthia Nixon, and Susan Sarandon weren't crying through the streets of Brooklyn over that.

Nazi Sarandon has retweeted videos of Palestinians being murdered by Israel which turned out to be videos of Syrians murdered by Assad, war crimes that Sarandon has called a hoax.

Sarandon is a tankie and Putin apologist. Nixon isn’t that malevolent.

Talk about performative. Where were all these assholes for the last 49 years. No one has ever cared about Palestine and to act like they do now is just theatrics.

R1, people who think like that make no sense to me--"oh, you're for LGBT lives? How can you be for LGBT rights when you're killing Palestinians, including those who are LGBT!". They say that as if it makes them brilliant. I didn't think this needed to be explained but there is a big difference between killing people SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE they are gay.

[quote] Can they get the Porkalob woman?

For 75 percent of the episodes, yes.

Best line I read: If queers for Palestine went to Gaza, they'd have to change their pronouns to was/were.

WEHT TR Knight R63? He was from the New York theatre world just as Ramirez was. He was very funny in the Patti LuPone Noises Off.

Shonda Cunt Rhimes blacklisted him.

R65, yes, she is trash. As are all the people who downplay Putin and Assad's war crimes but are obsessed with Palestine.

Don't say anything against Jewish people! Hollywood is owned by the Jews!

So glad IT'S gone

Is WHET a pronoun?

Beep/Bop/Boop!

LGBTQIA2S???

What they axed her?

When will some rich person actually charter a plane to Israel and let these assholes tour Gaza, if they can get in.

R78 Vi, you know the drill.

She was present. She took up space. And no one liked her stank, boring ass.

Well now we know that Che was the easiest role she’s ever taken on.

Sara Ramirez is such an insufferable cunt—another brainwashed Latinx nonbinary genderfuck theyfemme; a pure narcissist and a poser, just like all the others of her/his/their ilk. I have no sympathy for this stupid twat.

[quote]Why are people dying on this hill? I mean, if they have an actual, specific tie to Palestine, I'd get it. There's conflicts all over the world at all times with groups of people getting forced out of their homes, killed, etc. Of course it's good to be compassionate, and I'm sure there people who are being genuine in their concern and activism. But, aren't a lot of people just latching on to this as the trendy cause? Do this many people really have this level of deep-rooted care for Palestine compared to anywhere else in the world?

Because they learned a bunch of half truths on TikTok and they all believe it. Most of these dumb fucks never ever heard of Palestine until 3 months ago. 75% of them couldn't find it on a map/globe if their life depended on it. It's TikTok. Biden should have gotten rid of it. It's very dangerous. And trump approved it, even though people said it would be "DANGEROUS" and we can't trust the Chinese, but one of Trump's biggest donor's (larry fucking ellison) companies is running TikTok for the Chinese. And there were supposed to be certain rules and the Chinese have broken all of them and Ellison's company doesn't stop it. His company is not really running it. The Chinese are. And Biden still keeps TikTok around because his grandkids like it.

Just like tens of thousands of people are still in jail and being jailed DAILY for marijuana because Biden REFUSES to legalize marijuana on the federal level because he's afraid everyone else's kids that try marijuana will turn out horribly as two of his junkie kids did. He's afraid everyone will take one toke of pot and turn out like the useless, piece of shit, junkie Hunter Biden is. So tens of thousands of people sit in American jails at this very moment because they smoked marijuana and the President is okay with that.

The republicans realize TikTok can used to warp people's minds and they're using it for the election. The democrats aren't using it and really can't be bothered to do much about the next election. They're cool with the president having the lowest ratings of any president we've ever had. Biden should have gotten rid of TIkTok and said Chinese were doing all kinds of weird things with it.

Instead he's going to let TikTok divide the country EVEN MORE.

Are you talking about me, R82?? I did it first!!!! If you aren’t talking about me, WHY AREN’T YOU TALKING ABOUT ME!!!! And when you ARE talking about me, you better be using MY pronouns!!!!!!

Are you talking about me, R82?? I did it first!!!! If you aren’t talking about me, WHY AREN’T YOU TALKING ABOUT ME!!!! And when you ARE talking about me, you better be using MY pronouns!!!!!!

Couldn’t have happened to a nicer they/them!

Hey you know who else would give they the axe?

R83 it's mostly white liberals with white guilt who have become radically obsessed with it in the last 6 months. That, and POC who blindly fall in allegiance because Palestinians are Arabs and thus also fall under the POC umbrella. I truly think identity politics have warped people's ability to look at issues—they see a brown person and the assumption is that they are therefore the oppressed. No questions asked.

There's several truly dumb cunts I've seen post on various actor/musician pages basically saying "if you don't post something in line with what I believe RIGHT FUCKING NOW I'm going to be a big bitch baby and have a huge hissy fit and harass you to death!"

Not that any of these artists had come out for one group or another, other than generally wishing for peace.

One of the most unpleasant television characters of all time. Good riddance.

Her character on MADAM SECRETARY also sucked moose balls.

She hasn't worked at all since AJLT according to IMDB. This certainly won't help her employment prospects.

Literal violence axing her.

Her gash is an axe wound too.

[quote]Ramirez mocked people who need awards - ridiculing them as something 'shiny' that makes people 'feel special and powerful.'

Will she be returning her Tony?

I gave up the show after season 1 because this character was just too ridiculous for words. The nadir was the comedy routine the three central characters attended where she just mouthed tired woke platitudes and talked about how many women she had fucked, and her audience screamed with delight.

I heard that in the second season her character became less annoying, but she was ruined for me the first season. That's one of the worst new characters on a TV show of all time.

I'm so curious why she was originally written the way she was--who among the higher-ups thought that that character would be beloved.

Don’t fire Cynthia until she has finished fixing all her teeth!

Maybe the character could have been saved if it wasn't so obnoxious and aggressive, but there was nothing to like. They tried to soften it a little in S2 but it was too late. The directing and the writing bears some responsibility too. I don't think that's a process where reality intrudes often, except to prompt more discussion of how the viewers don't get it.

Dear MPK,

Please give this cunt a Rosalind Shays sendoff scene. Or since you kinda hacked that for Lexi Featherston, an impalement or vaporization will do.

Thanks, the viewers

As another poster said, Ramirez is WAY too old to be acting like a virtue signaling Gen Zer with all the annoying posturing. She's old enough that she could be the mother of a Gen Zer.

And just like that SJP turned them out to pasture.

End of them or not, she earned a special spot in hell for turning Carrie into a cat-lady.

[quote]R83] it's mostly white liberals with white guilt who have become radically obsessed with it in the last 6 months. That, and POC who blindly fall in allegiance because Palestinians are Arabs and thus also fall under the POC umbrella. I truly think identity politics have warped people's ability to look at issues—they see a brown person and the assumption is that they are therefore the oppressed. No questions asked.

I saw a funny video clip the other day. Some white pro-Palestinian protestors were blocking traffic. A black guy was trying to drop his daughter off at school and he was over their bullshit. He was telling them to get out of the way and that it’s illegal to block traffic etc etc to no avail. Then one of the protestors tried to open his car door. He had had it. He got out of his car and started pushing the protestors out of the way. You could literally see the confusion on the protesters faces. Like, what to do??? They’re protesting for the so oppressed Muslims but now a black guy was telling them to fuck off and get out of his way. Who to give their allegiance to in this moment??? The dilemma!

[quote] As another poster said, Ramirez is WAY too old to be acting like a virtue signaling Gen Zer with all the annoying posturing. She's old enough that she could be the mother of a Gen Zer.

That's also true of Cynthia Nixon.

R103 Cynthia is as insufferable as Sara. Both of them are cunts.

LISTEN UP all you privileged, racist, cis-gender gay males-assigned-at-birth: it's pronounced "Sah-DA" Ramirez.

R105 Shouldn't it be Sah-DA Rah-mid-eth?

This tidbit from an article in The Post made me chuckle

In late November, Nixon, 57, joined a five-day Gaza hunger strike, but had to leave early due to prior commitments and lasted only two days.

R107 I find this humorous considering Nixon's ex-husband is Jewish as are her sons. She also apparently attends an "LGBT synagogue" herself despite the fact that she is not Jewish (ethnically or religiously).

R107, it reads like parody.

Nixon went to Hunter College High School in Manhattan, and then Barnard. So she must have a lot of Jewish friends from her past--a sizeable percentage of the kids at both schools are Jewish.

I don't remember Nixon being such a batshit social justice warrior during the show's first run.

R111 I don't think she was until she decided she is a lesbian or something. See that's why none of these actions will ever work because you can have as many hunger strikes or protests as you want but as soon as something good is on TV or it's time for brunch people and going to lose interest.

Nixon is a piece of shit. Performative asshole. Remember when she ran for governor of New York? Attention seeking nonsense and now antisemitic antics too.

And I blame her for the inclusion of Che Diaz in the first place. You think MPK wanted that fugly weirdo on the show? Or SJP? Please.

That entire character (and lunatic Sara Ramirez) screams Cynthia Nixon demand.

I do remember Nixon's platform on shoplifting, which was basically - steal as much as you want. Her and Sarandon are cut from the same narc cloth. It's so fun to cosplay with the radicals when you have a $15 million brownstone to retire to every night.

Nixon isn't a lesbian. Remember, she made a big deal about saying how much she regretted calling herself a lesbian when she came out.

She is BISEXUAL, definitely NOT an icky lesbian.

R115 judging by the looks of her wife, I agree—she is clearly not a lesbian.

Most likely the Palestine stuff was just the straw that broke the camel's back and they were itching to get rid of her already. All that psycho babble crap...lord, these people are just as brainwashed as the Q loons, but less violent.

And Just Like That I will be watching season 3 enthusiastically.

Sara, go wave a rainbow flag in Gaza and see how long you survive you ungrateful bitch.

Her Instagram is deranged. For your entertainment:

[quote]First pic by @madisonswart of me, @trudy0nduty and Mio in D.C. at the March for Gaza on Jan 13th, 2023. We are masked with winter coats on, and I am carrying Mio in a pet backpack on my front with a Palestinian flag hanging off it. We are against Islamophobia, anti-semitism, and genocide. We are against the U.S. government funding these horrific dehumanizing atrocities and we felt it necessary to show up with our queer, non-binary and trans community, which included trans Egyptian Palestinians. Lgbtqia2s+ community exists worldwide and will not be forgotten. Some like to pass around this tired narrative that we have no business advocating for Palestinian lives because they say that if we were in Gaza a certain kind of violence would be perpetrated on us that wouldn’t in the U.S. Well, Im feeling for those folks and their projections. I’m also here to remind them that here in the U.S. LGBTQIA2S+ people are still being murdered and discriminated against for being queer - in particular Black, Brown and Indigenous trans and non-binary communities. The point of including us in all spaces is to remind everyone that none of us are free until all of us are free. Humans have a history of violence throughout the world- this is nothing new. And liberation is for ALL OF US. So get used to us being present and accounted for. We matter, whether we’re in the U.S., the Congo, Sudan, Puerto Rico, Haiti, Hawaii or Gaza. And I am sending you all love, no matter how deeply you are hurting.

Whatever happened to her part?

R119 - that woke bullshit is absolutely divorced from the reality of what is actually happening in Gaza/Israel.

R121 not only is it divorced from reality—it doesn’t even make sense. Pure bleeding-heart word salad.

SJP and MPK clap back: From the DM-

[quote]Sara was not fired because they support Palestine and the cease fire,’ they told DailyMail.com exclusively. ‘Sara was fired because Che brought nothing to the show anymore. They were on the chopping block since last season.

[quote]‘After Che split with Miranda, the character really held no value anymore and fans found them annoying. The storyline as a struggling comedian was a waste of airtime and Sara knew it.’

[quote[Addressing how there are no talks to axe Cynthia Nixon’s Miranda Hobbes over the actress’ stance on Palestine, the source continued: ‘Cynthia has been incredibly vocal about her support for Palestine and for her being an open lesbian.

[quote]‘Sara needs to accept that this is not Grey’s Anatomy, and her character was not a pivotal part of the storyline.’

Buh bye, and take Cynthia Nixon with you.

Leaves more airtime for Sebastiano Pigazzi.

Maybe Che can keep recurring in future years just like Big did in the original series.

How quickly they forget!

R123 I thought you made up those quotes. Wow, SPK and MPK really are a pair of vicious cunts.

R127

I love it! They aren’t playing if Sara lied about the reason they were fired they deserve that vicious take down.

Has Che Diaz been a popular character among the US trans community?

R129 no

I wonder why Sara isn’t upset Hamas steals food and medicine from the Palestinians. And we will NOT stop saying these ppl would lop your head off if you flew the rainbow flag there. We have enough serious shit going on here at home for us to worry about terrorists and their enablers 7,000 miles away.

[quote][R123] I thought you made up those quotes. Wow, SPK and MPK really are a pair of vicious cunts.

Those quotes are not necessarily from SJP or MPK. They're credited as coming from "a source close to the show."

That seems odd for the person responsible to say because doesn't that reflect poorly on them and their ability to create compelling characters. Like if you're able to write the show well then one character wouldn't depend on another to exist or to be interesting and if they do you suck as a writer.

R130 - Sara also doesn't seem to be very concerned about the hostages, who have been hold in captivity for 100 days, nor the women who are probably being raped and sexually assaulted by Hamas as they're held in Gaza.

It's going to be hard for her to get good work again after this to-do, but she was with GA for ten years so I doubt she wants for dough.

The DM's "source close to the show" handled it in a "Don't fuck with me fellas. This ain't my first time at the rodeo" manner. They agreed with Ramirez that the character was bad, nipped the political smear in the bud, and established that they'll go for tit-for-tat in cuntiness if necessary.

There's not much more you can do against an attention-seeking lunatic with a persecution complex. Ramirez childishly shooting themself in the foot by shit-talking Che was a gift to the show's producers.

I can just imagine how long they'd last in Gaza before being gang raped and executed by Hamas. And it never ceases to amaze me how these entitled "artists" living in their bubble think their talent is so irreplaceable that they can bite the hand that feeds. them. Now what are they going to do? Oh yeah, be a bouncer in a bar--very lucrative, I'm sure.

Exactly r136. They are violently homophobic. They treat women like slaves. WTF is wrong with so many Westerners that they can't see this? Palestinians and others in the Arab/Muslim world are not our friends. They think we should deserve to die. It's insanity.

From Sara's instagram:

[quote]Don’t let tabloids distract you from what’s happening in Gaza. Really nice try, though.

Cunt

This thread is about Ramirez and AJLT.

It is not about letting vent to your endless anti-Palestinian talking points. Please take that shit elsewhere--it's cluttering up the thread.

She chooses this hill to die on? JFC

[quote]Shouldn't it be Sah-DA Rah-mid-eth?

No, it should be Sah-DA Roseannadanna.

Is she cracking up?

It might shock you to learn that prior to October 7th there is nothing on Sara's insta relating to Palestine or Gaza.

R138. And she turned off the comments on that particular post.

^ I meant they not she.

Eat shit r139. The topic is relevant to this thread. This stupid bitch supports those child-raping, gay - killing monsters.

I think Michael Patrick King created Che as an awful character to spite Cynthia Nixon.

Before AJLT launched, Cynthia was blabbing all over the place about how the new series was a chance to "correct" SATC's sinful lack of diversity. SATC was just the worst, according to Twitter, and she was going to be the savior of representation on TV. Miranda being gay and having a girlfriend was clearly key to her signing on.

And MPK was like, "OK, you want Miranda to be gay, all previous character development to the contrary, and have a girlfriend? You're going to get the worst girlfriend imaginable."

Cynthia saw the vicious blowback, decided she liked the paychecks, and now is a lot quieter.

[quote]Before AJLT launched, Cynthia was blabbing all over the place about how the new series was a chance to "correct" SATC's sinful lack of diversity.

It was a show about rich white cunts shopping and fucking their way around Manhattan. Millions of rich white cunts (male and female) did this back then and continue to do this to the present day. It was what it was.

Not every goddamn show has to be a goddamn HR seminar. Sometimes you just want to watch a show about rich white cunts.

I'm not white. I never had an issue with SATC's diversity. 4 White chicks are friends and don't have a minority in their circle - that's hardly unrealistic. Just like Girlfriends, Living Single, Insecure weren't unrealistic. And all of those shows including SATC were enjoyable.

Allegedly Miranda was supposed to get involved with Nya, her professor which would have made sense. Nixon wanted Miranda and Che to get involved and the rest is history. Or they/themstory.

[quote]It was a show about rich white cunts shopping and fucking their way around Manhattan.

Another reason Che never fit. Who wants to watch the tubby, fugly, nonbinary weirdo working at a pet rescue in a show about supposedly rich, white cunts fucking around Manhattan.

[quote] 300,000 Syrians killed by Assad in civil war.. 1 million Afghanis just expelled from Pakistan.

Also in the last 48 hours Iran has bombed Pakistan, Syria, and Iraq.

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The show responds to the tranny:

𝑺𝒂𝒓𝒂 𝒘𝒂𝒔 𝒇𝒊𝒓𝒆𝒅 𝒃𝒆𝒄𝒂𝒖𝒔𝒆 𝑪𝒉𝒆 𝒃𝒓𝒐𝒖𝒈𝒉𝒕 𝒏𝒐𝒕𝒉𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒕𝒐 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒔𝒉𝒐𝒘 𝒂𝒏𝒚𝒎𝒐𝒓𝒆. 𝑻𝒉𝒆𝒚 𝒘𝒆𝒓𝒆 𝒐𝒏 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒄𝒉𝒐𝒑𝒑𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒃𝒍𝒐𝒄𝒌 𝒔𝒊𝒏𝒄𝒆 𝒍𝒂𝒔𝒕 𝒔𝒆𝒂𝒔𝒐𝒏.

‘𝑨𝒇𝒕𝒆𝒓 𝑪𝒉𝒆 𝒔𝒑𝒍𝒊𝒕 𝒘𝒊𝒕𝒉 𝑴𝒊𝒓𝒂𝒏𝒅𝒂, 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒄𝒉𝒂𝒓𝒂𝒄𝒕𝒆𝒓 𝒓𝒆𝒂𝒍𝒍𝒚 𝒉𝒆𝒍𝒅 𝒏𝒐 𝒗𝒂𝒍𝒖𝒆 𝒂𝒏𝒚𝒎𝒐𝒓𝒆 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝒇𝒂𝒏𝒔 𝒇𝒐𝒖𝒏𝒅 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒎 𝒂𝒏𝒏𝒐𝒚𝒊𝒏𝒈. 𝑻𝒉𝒆 𝒔𝒕𝒐𝒓𝒚𝒍𝒊𝒏𝒆 𝒂𝒔 𝒂 𝒔𝒕𝒓𝒖𝒈𝒈𝒍𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒄𝒐𝒎𝒆𝒅𝒊𝒂𝒏 𝒘𝒂𝒔 𝒂 𝒘𝒂𝒔𝒕𝒆 𝒐𝒇 𝒂𝒊𝒓𝒕𝒊𝒎𝒆 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝑺𝒂𝒓𝒂 𝒌𝒏𝒆𝒘 𝒊𝒕.’

‘𝙎𝙖𝙧𝙖 𝙣𝙚𝙚𝙙𝙨 𝙩𝙤 𝙖𝙘𝙘𝙚𝙥𝙩 𝙩𝙝𝙖𝙩 𝙩𝙝𝙞𝙨 𝙞𝙨 𝙣𝙤𝙩 𝙂𝙧𝙚𝙮’𝙨 𝘼𝙣𝙖𝙩𝙤𝙢𝙮, 𝙖𝙣𝙙 𝙝𝙚𝙧 𝙘𝙝𝙖𝙧𝙖𝙘𝙩𝙚𝙧 𝙬𝙖𝙨 𝙣𝙤𝙩 𝙖 𝙥𝙞𝙫𝙤𝙩𝙖𝙡 𝙥𝙖𝙧𝙩 𝙤𝙛 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙨𝙩𝙤𝙧𝙮𝙡𝙞𝙣𝙚.’

[quote]her character

LITERAL VIOLENCE!!1!

Oops, good catch, R153. And I'm sorry, but referring to somebody you KNOW is a woman, as a 'they' is just unnatural and clunky. And like a couple of posters said above, it's pathetic to see a 48 year old carrying on with this non-binary intersectional bullshit like a Gen Z teenager.

When talking about a they/them the convention should be using the person’s name, e.g.

Sam Smith says Sam Smith is obese and undergoing a course of faecal transplant therapy after near fatal heart attack.

The Crown actor Emma Corrin says Emma Corrin is excited about Emma Corrin’s forthcoming wedding to Rami Malek as Emma Corrin shops for dildos.

Less about this glum cunt and more about ROJO CALIENTE!!!

Now that Ramirez is gone, they need to fire the useless, disgusting Bobby Lee. I know they wanted diversity to make up for the lack of it in the original series, but those two (Che and whatever Lee’s character was) were just plain UGLY and annoyingly obnoxious. A huge step backward.

,[quote]'I am so grateful for the people in my life who have helped me, and are still supporting me, in healing and getting free,' she wrote.

Talentless bitch fell ass first into a money truck and all she can talk about is healing.

Anyway, looks like she's been shitcanned, not for her politics it was explained, but because she brought nothing to the show, was boring, her character spent.

Good. No more on camera snatch eating.

Here's an idea: how about showing Miranda in a positive, healthy, loving gay relationship. Would Cynthia approve?

[quote]Less about this glum cunt and more about ROJO CALIENTE!!!

You called?

R161 Yes!

The Rojo Caliente posts on Dlisted were the best.

Cynthia's hunger strike did not extend to Rojo Caliente's pussy. 500 calories per slurp.

Rojo Caliente......she looka like a man

Now it makes sense why Cynthia wanted Che and not some attractive lesbian.

I am not familiar with this Mexican lesbian transsexual gang member? Does she work at Taco Bell or Taco Time? She's a little rough around the edges for Chipotle I am thinking.

R166 She works at El Dyko Loco

[quote]Here's an idea: how about showing Miranda in a positive, healthy, loving gay relationship. Would Cynthia approve?

I don't even understand how we got to Miranda being gay, other than Nixon demanding the character mirror her own life. Miranda was always after cock during the first series(and she got quite a lot of it) and we're supposed to believe that all went away when she got tired of Steve?

And Steve is hot....who gets tired of that?

Miranda was always a little dykey. It is interesting that during the initial run all four women had lesbian storylines (some very brief). Miranda pretending to be a lesbian because her bosses wife wanted to add a lesbian couple to their inner circle. Samantha and Maria, the artist. Charlotte befriended by a group of high powered dykes and Carrie with a same sex kiss during a game of spin the bottle.

In R161 linked photo, her legs look attached at the sides below the knee, I've seen gym rats th more delicate calves than Rojo.

Sara Ramirez and Rojo Caliente could be the next 1000 lb Sisters!

Steve was/is hot. They did him dirty. That pissed me off.

Miranda being gay tracks. She seemed butch, could have been suppressing her true desires. I believe it. They went way too hard too fast with the other end of LGBTQ+. I don’t mind having a variety, but it was too much. The black characters thrown in there, too. SATC was realistic in how it portrayed friends who stick to their race/ethnic circle. Adding in some spice is fine but they through the kitchen sink at the AJLT which did it a disservice.

My guess is that to get Cynthia Nixon on board with the sequel, they offered her a lot of creative license for her character. Like most actors, she is probably extremely self-centered. When she heard MPK wanted to make the sequel be more diverse, she probably went to him and said, "Okay, then I want Miranda to be more like me. I want her to come out as a lesbian and have a big sexy affair with a very butch woman or non-binary, just like I did in real life," and so this is what we got.

I do hope Sara Ramirez is well-fixed, because she's likely not going to be considered very hireable by Hollywood after this very public tantrum. She might be stuck having to play Madame Morrible in a touring company playing Beirut.

[quote]At the end of their post, Ramírez seemingly took a swipe at both And Just Like That … and Che Diaz, writing, “It’s wild how performative so many in Hollywood are. Even more performative than the last character I played.” This is a far cry from Ramírez’s previous opinions on the character. Last summer, they vehemently defended Che in this very publication, saying, “Anybody who benefits from patriarchy is going to have a problem with Che Diaz.”

Okay Sara, because you yourself aren't "performative" at all. This stupid cunt just throws out buzzwords without even knowing what they mean. She's never seemed bright, but she has proven herself far dumber than I imagined.

They also made Miranda a sub-zero IQ, simpering, pick me moron, instead of a 50 something, confident corporate lawyer. I wonder whose idea that was.

[quote]“Anybody who benefits from patriarchy is going to have a problem with Che Diaz.”

I guess I love the patriarchy. Thanks, Sara.

Sara better not get on testosterone if she wants to keep those pipes. Bitch is a great singer and was likable and pretty on Greys Anatomy.

She should be on posters with before and after shots. "Just Say No To Gender Ideology".

Her career is over.

She’s not attractive inside or out.

Was this person fat on Grey’s Anatomy?

R181 I think she was what most people would consider "curvy" on Grey's Anatomy. In any event, she looked much better before she converted to the church of they.

R178 I liked her a lot on Grey's Anatomy. I remember being bummed when she left because I enjoyed her and her character. Nowadays, I wouldn't be compelled to watch anything she's in—she's now an ideologue and a gender fascist, not an actress.

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Grail

I don't say i feel sorry for her, maybe i do, but she seems very unhappy and starting to slip a bit beyond just living outside norms.

I remember Sara saying her sister coming out as non binary shortly after she did. Women seem to become trans in clusters. Its bizarre.

[quote]Remember when she first caught everyone's attention with SPAMALOT?

Leslie Kritzer eats her up in the current revival of Spamalot.

R187 I really think there is a social contagion element at play with it. Unlike being gay, which requires that one have an attraction to/engagement in romantic and sexual activity with members of the same sex, being "non-binary" is purely about "me me me!" You can opt in just by saying you are so. It's a vain, made-up personality category that attracts mentally deranged narcissists who are so desperately boring that they will flock to anything that can get them attention.

The sick part is that now anything that falls under the LGBT umbrella has taken on the status of being "cool", hence why we have people like Harry Styles and Jacob Elordi playing up homoeroticism purely for cultural currency. LGBT++++++++++++ is now nothing more than a grab bag for the masses.

I saw Sara in a musical called A Class Act and she stole the show. Great stage presence, comic timing and voice. Maybe she can join Chicago as Amos Hart.

Yeah, r190, that's the thing...she's talented.

Sara's firing has nothing to do with being pro-Palestine and everything to do with poor writing, poor character development, and a poor story arc for Che. It also didn't help matters that the writers had Miranda dump cute, likable, enduring Steve for Che in season 1 of AJLT. I get that Cynthia Nixon is gay in real life, but this was also an unexpected, abrupt, and strangely executed arc for the Miranda character as well. From the first season, Che was cast as a constantly misunderstood, hyper sensitive, nonbinary home wrecker. Adding insult to that injury, the writers also gave Che flaccid jokes for their stand-up scenes. I wonder how the writers will jettison Che and explain their absence. Perhaps they will have "moved to London," like Samantha. 🙄

I never found Miranda that dykey. I get why people say it, but it's all based on outdated stereotypes. She was the the career woman who sought independence and didn't like bullshit and was blunt; she had short hair and didn't dress super girly; she didn't like guys who did all the stuff girly women like, etc. Plus she always enjoyed fucking men; even breaking down when she had a dry spell of mere months - telling the construction workers outside her Blockbuster that she needed to get laid. It doesn't track that she became a lesbian.

Season 2 was Che's redemption season and they did succeed in making them a little softer and more vulnerable. By the end of the season they were a cunt again. It's as of the writers hated Che as much as the audience did.

R193 It does. Using sex to numb your feelings is a tried and true tonic.

[quote] Leslie Kritzer eats her up in the current revival of Spamalot.

I read this first as " Leslie Kritzer eats her out in the current revival of Spamalot," and I thought, "I really don't want to see that."

And if anyone knows SJP or any of the producers or writers PLEASE print out this entire thread and hand it to them. I do not want to see that character back in season 3. Pick another non binary person, again it wasn't about that. That character SUCKED.

Heck send it to WBTV execs at this point. Can not handle that character again. Struggling to watch these characters as it is.

R193 you just defined what dykey is. It’s acting and looking butch.

Fine I guess I should say, I never saw her as a lesbian.

Che really was a terrible, awful character and Sara MADE her even more unlikable.

Hey dipshit R197 do you really want her to become aware of this site and have her go all Davida on Muriel so we never get to talk about it?

How fucking stupid are you?

^ LOL: I wonder if they said anything about me?

Keebler Elf?!?!

Seabiscuit?!!!?!

Cynthia Nixon is BISEXUAL. She clarified that she deeply regretted saying “Lesbian” when she came out.

She’s no gay hero.

Why did she deeply regret it? Miss the d?

JUST ANNOUNCED

Tony winner Sara Ramirez returns to Broadway with their one person show Mx Diaz Regrets.

An evening or non binary intimacy, inspirational gender non conforming tales and show stopping performances from some of musics best LGBTQIA2S songwriters, including Cole Porter, Elton John, Lady Gaga and Duo Lips.

Blue and pink keffiyehs will be on sale at the venue to raise funds for the Palestinian Queer Lives Matter charity. 5% of all profits will go to this organisation.

Special guest appearance by Kim Cattrall, singing Thank You for Being A Friend.

Michael Patrick King deserves blame for all of this! If he had not given into Cynthia and created the worst character of all time that destroyed SATC legacy, then the non binary performer who played the role wouldn’t be fired for supporting Palestine.

All roads lead to MPK

The real horror is how much they butchered Miranda.

The writers should all be replaced by people who understand these women. Every episode in the reboot felt like watching a student film from NYU.

Sara might actually be good in a revival of Gypsy. She gives off Mama Rose vibes.

R211. Sara is more of a Mazeppa.

All the testosterone in its system has made it totally aggressive and simian.

No one wants to see that on their screen.

I’m so sick of woke ass showbiz cunts. It’s all an act.

Has they mentioned what exactly they are healing from?

We can just assume it's the white cis-patriarchy, r215.

R215, they are healing from being aggressively pussy-fisted on Monday night by a baby dyke.

Now if they can just get rid of that terrible Carrie Bradshaw…

[quote]Has they mentioned what exactly they are healing from?

oh dear. That should be "what exactly they is healing from."

She was quite pretty - and looked much, much better - when she presented as feminine.

Great post r189. LGBT has basically become "every freak under the sun." Dye your hair pink, get ridiculous piercings all over and call yourself nonbinary. Congratulations, you're LGBT now! It's such ridiculous bullshit.

It should be people who are actually biologically homosexual and nobody else. So sick of asshole freaks like Ramirez.

Could somebody please tell this bitch she's not trans?

I wonder how she would have been received if she'd been cast as a true female, would she have become the new Samantha?

Or if the character hadn't been so selfish and obnoxious.

[quote] I wonder how she would have been received if she'd been cast as a true female, would she have become the new Samantha?

Samantha was never a gigantic pork roll, so no.

I'm not referring to her size, I'm referring to her femininity. She's a beautiful woman. And Seema is no delicate flower either.

I didn't realize Sara was married to a man for 10 years. The non-binary shit started in 2020.

[quote] I'm not referring to her size, I'm referring to her femininity. She's a beautiful woman. And Seema is no delicate flower either.

Sorry, dear, but Sara Ramirez is a fat pig, and from the looks of her recent photos, she's been eating her feelings about Palestine because she's even bigger now.

From the looks of her recent photos, she's been eating her feelings about the entire Middle East, Ukraine and every time Target closes another store.

R228 she wasn't as big when she started on the show.

Pussy is high in calories.

I can’t believe anyone watches And Just Like That.

It’s pure frau fare.

[R202] I can assure you, she's not going to be reading your ass on this website, it's fine. Don't worry, you seemed worried... are yah worried? Beotch.

If she goes back to theater she can repair some of the damage. She won a fucking Tony!

So did the crip in the wheelchair. Big deal.

Nobody hates the crip R235. In fact, nobody’s thought about her ever.

No one said anything about hating her. Get your paw out of your ass.

I'm really sorry I didn't go as Che Diaz for Halloween the last two years.

Clearly you do R235, you called her a crip.

I think you wandered into the wrong website, R239. You should go.

I forgot about wheelchair girl. She was a bitch. What made her different was her bitch routine was amusing.

I hate woke people.

Like gluten free friends—bitch, please. You ate a stack of pancakes for years and never had any issues.

Nixon, this bulldyke, Sarandon. —- go there. Get thrown off a building. Spit in your face.

Insufferable fucks.

And who wants to hear from them anyway?!

Clearly you do R236, you called her a crip.

You watch. Ramirez will have some kind of breakdown by the end of 2024. The trajectory over the past three to five years and the outcomes - which are a lot of negative emotions and apparent unhappiness - suggest there's a ton going on. It's sad. Original recipe Ramirez had such potential and looked healthy and attractive.

Who are we kidding with all of this? The only character given any real meat to work with the entire season is Carrie. Miranda's arc starts taking off after three episodes. Poor Charlotte is there happy getting a check with her biggest concerns being getting codoms in a blizzard and not getting of enough cum on her tits. Everyone else is just window dressing with very tired and tacky antiquated storylines.

To be 100% honest, I would take a full season of Che over another single episode of Anthony chasing muscle marys in short shorts around his fake as hell successful bakery.

How soon can we throw this thing off a roof for being an ugly sodomite?

[R245] I didn't realize Kim Cattrall contributed to DataLounge. Awesome!

R206 that sounds like raw hell on earth.

I will admit I worshipped Che Diaz. She (sorry, They) was such a breathtakingly bad character it was hysterical. The idea that this was a radical New Yorker because she smoked weed and had sex and gasp! had a PODCAST! My tiny mind couldn’t even handle that kind of edge!

Miranda was always irritating. Her voice! Her hair! Her personality! All awful.

This thread has had me cackling all evening at work, so many great one liners, but R69 takes the prize for funniest

[quote] If queers for Palestine went to Gaza, they'd have to change their pronouns to was/were.

I luv you lot! You are what makes DL great

I'm going to send everyone who uses they/them, whether referring to themselves or others, to Gaza. For the love of fuck can't anyone speak English anymore? Enough with that shit!

Sara Ramirez is a woman, she's a she FFS.

Increasingly I'm coming to the view that the polite response to anybody playing the pronoun game is that universal look of polite disdain. The trans stuff, because it's so much more complicated, you just ignore, as if someone farted but you can't say anything.

Che Diaz is probably the single most annoying, abrasive and insufferable character I've ever seen on TV.

And I'm old enough to remember Ann Romano.

In OP’s photo, she has the same blank smile like Bert on Sesame Street.

Sara Ramirez is a phony baloney. It has bugged me for years that people don't question why came out as a bi after leaving Grey's Anatomy. I suspect she and her ex-husband had an arranged beard marriage and he has dirt that she's a full on lezbo.

I respect trans people. I have no patience for the theys and thems.

This thread is on its last legs, but has anyone else noticed that non-binary people are way, way more likely to wear masks in public? I'm in Portland which has a very large non-binary (and trans) population and every single one of them I see seems to be wearing a mask, though virtually no one else is. Why is that? Are non-binaries all germophobes?

I don't know about that, but I have noticed all the mask wearing at Pro-Palestine rallies, which is odd - if you are protesting in PUBLIC, you should show your face.

Because being non-binary is just one item on a long list of self-diagnoses for these people.

Bibromyalgia. The pains is real.

Attention-seeking narcissists tend to self-diagnose a variety of ailments and disorders, in my experience.

[quote]Sara Ramirez is a phony baloney. It has bugged me for years that people don't question why came out as a bi after leaving Grey's Anatomy.

This is never mentioned now, but they were supposedly unhappy with their character's sexuality being changed at first. It makes their newfound 'queer' self-importance funnier, but mostly it makes them look dumb for being involved in an even more extreme version of a sexuality switcheroo as Miranda's love interest.

Sara was very upset that a bisexual storyline (Callie with a dude) was cut from Grey's Anatomy shortly before she left.

I wouldn't be surprised if Sara ends up converting to Islam.

Well, she'll definitely be converting to unemployed.

she looks so bizarre in OP picture.

Was the name pronounced “chee” as in “cheez-wiz” or “chay” like Che Guavera?

Like Che Guavera.

No, it's pronounced "shay" like in cliCHE.

Shady As F.

No, it's pronounced "K" like the letter K, as in Italian.

The lesbian and bisexual storylines on Grey's Anatomy were poorly written. It has always bugged the fuck out of me how overrated Shonda Rhimes is. She's just as bad as Ryan Murphy, but she doesn't get called out that much by the media.

I can’t believe that Grey’s Anatomy is still on. Ellen Pompeo is only a guest star now!

Preachy bull dykes are typically comedic, as Ramirez clearly demonstrates.

are NOT typically ^^^

R274 Man, what ever happened to Paula Poundstone? She was about as preachy as a bottle of Fresca, but she kept America's understanding of dykes at a nice slow simmer.

R275 Her career ended due to that scandal where she abused or neglected her foster or adoptive kids.

I'm a lesbian and I can't stand preachy cunts like Sara Ramirez. She annoyed the fuck out of me some years ago when she had a bitch fest on Twitter about a bisexual joke on the ABC show The Real O'Neals. Then she had another Twitter spat with Dustin Lance Black over his mini-series When We Rise. The mini-series wasn't great, but Ramirez's main complaint was there weren't bisexual main characters.

R276 So because Ramirez craves visibility and answers to her own internal mental problems, we're all supposed to simply get out of the way?

Bitch, it's not our problem if you can't resolve your sexuality to the point of laughing at yourself. The poor, joyless, half-a-dyke.

What happened to the days when people stopped complaining about the way things are and picked up a camera and produced their own shit to show people the way they think it should be?

R278 We tried to tell Ramirez about the tradition of moody teen photographers, but Shir found the John Waters movie "Pecker," and was grossly offended by the title.

I’m still stuck on r275’s simile. What does “preachy as a bottle of Fresca” mean?

R280 It means "not preachy at all." She was a visible queer (now we know, asexual) woman at a time when those were uncommon, but she stuck to her comedy and didn't make anyone feel uncomfortable with her personal grievances.

The bottle of Fresca is an inanimate object, and a rather inoffensive one.

Also a rather unfunny one.

[quote]Ramirez, 48, a non-binary actor who plays Che Diaz, and who uses they/them pronouns

Ramirez, 48, a very troubled, borderline personality actress who plays cringeworthy character Che Diaz, and who uses they/them pronouns to great comic effect....

[quote]Ramirez mocked people who need awards - ridiculing them as something 'shiny' that makes people 'feel special and powerful.'

WHERE does one EVEN BEGIN! Ramirez herself is a Tony Award winner (See? She's just different and better than those people!), and clearly is not in on the joke that ONLY attention-seeking people who "need to feel special and powerful" pretend they are "non-binary", a ridiculous category that only exists in fantasyland, i.e. the heads of loons like Sara Ramirez, and others who are quite "shiny"!

She really has no fucking clue, does she? Many, many actors are so dumb it hurts, but this bulldagger really takes the cake!

I can’t get over how physically repulsive she is. It is just amazing. TV is a visual medium, right?

[quote]It might shock you to learn that prior to October 7th there is nothing on Sara's insta relating to Palestine or Gaza.

You can pull all the stops out

Till they call the cops out

Grind your behind till you're banned...

[quote]I can’t get over how physically repulsive she is. It is just amazing. TV is a visual medium, right?

She was quite pretty when she presented as feminine.

She looks like you could distill beer in her ribcage.

That is the best description I have ever heard r288.

Thank you...

SJP looks the same in character as she probably does off-camera:

"Do we look like friends? Please don't hate-crime me! I have a gay husband! I'll come on your podcast and sing Joni Mitchell!"

It's official!

“Other people’s opinions of a character — that’s not something I can allow into my process,” they said. “I choose what I receive, right? That’s the beauty of being grown — I don’t have to receive everything!”

^ That is the most poetic description of Delusion I have heard.

Kind of feel for Sara. I mean, they saddled her with the most obnoxious character. That was the “writers.”

Her exit will be off screen

CHARLOTTE: So, Carrie, I think it's great that you're potentially reigniting an old flame. Just because it didn't work with Aiden doesn't mean it won't work with (enter name of character from original series)

CARRIE: I'm not sure we should be talking about flames after what happened with Che. Sorry, Miranda.

MIRANDA: Oh it's just one of those things. One of the things I admired about Che was how strongly they felt about the causes they supported. Che setting themself on fire to protest Israeli war crimes was very on brand for them.

CHARLOTTE: Speaking of Israelis, Harry's cousin Ephraim is coming back to New York. He made Aliyah in the 90s but he's single now and looking for love. Which of our friends can we introduce him to?

I don't think it will be that hard R296. She was basically written out of the second season as the woman at the shelter giving out cats. The girls just won't walk down that block anymore.

Sara was at the opening of Cynthia's off Broadway play last night.

R298 Oh, so she was the one.

Looks like the gays who are probably half of this show's audience and the "ladies" who comprise the other half do not approve of butch non-binary lesbians with a heavy feminist political agenda.

I don't know if it was disapproval so much as went looking for entertainment and failed to find it in that character.

It seems like tv audiences don't care for shrill, pro-Hamas they/thems, huh?

I suspect if she only had a "heavy feminist agenda" (whatever you mean by that) she'd be fine r300. She had this annoying "they" shit and the show went overboard pretending that everybody would just love "them" for that, and that's what killed the character. It was getting better toward the end of the season, but too late apparently.

Why is the catchphrase I'm Human" thrown around when they meant... leave me alone, I fucked up? I can't stand this phase, own it FFS.

[quote]Kind of feel for Sara. I mean, they saddled her with the most obnoxious character. That was the “writers.”

Oh, I think Sara is just as obnoxious in real life. Hence the problem. Che was brain child of Sara/Cynthia and it showed.

How must Cynthia and Sara feel knowing that they’re so geeky, they created a character they thought was fabulous, but the entire audience said, thank you next. And then proceeded to make relentless fun of them.

Bye Nya. Karen Pittman also leaving but for a good reason. She's too busy.

But the real star is still front-and-center in this reboot: BOTOX!

I like Nya, she’s good in The Morning Show, but she was awful in AJLT through no fault of her own. Now they just need to get rid of Nicole Ari Parker (also good, but not on this show,) and make Sarita Choudhury into the permanent fourth lady and we might have the semblance of something here. Also reverse Miranda’s late in life lesbianism. It’s not working. At all.

Cynthia Nixon had all kinds of fucking demands as a condition for her returning to the show and they've all been disastrous.

R310 A late-in-life lesbian with outlandish demands and zero accountability?

Say it ain't so!

Miranda should go back to being straight and fall in love with a trans man, played by Elliot Page.

Lesbianism by stealth.