Gene Hackman

He’s 94. Long-retired.

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vegetable

He’s 93, with a birthday at the end of this month.

Happy Birthday, Gene! I love his work!

Looks pretty fucking good for 93. And still driving!

The post refers to him as reclusive but he’s very much out and about in Santa Fe.

One of our greatest actors, alongside Duvall. Great energy, very sexually attractive in his prime. Just one of those men.

His cold turkey scene in French Connection 2 is a masterclass in acting for EVERYONE

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Nope, R2. That was fake news.

[quote]His cold turkey scene in French Connection 2 is a masterclass in acting for EVERYONE

Surely not for Mickey Rooney, who had already achieved the apex of the craft in "Breakfast at Tiffany's."

Welcome to Mooseport killed his career.

No if didn’t r12, he was already talking about retiring when he was promoting the movie and he’s been offered a number of parts that he’s turned down including the role Bruce dern played in Nebraska and the a mission impossible sequel.

RIP.

OP - Tanya Roberts

There is a credible rumour in the previous thread by a poster claiming that Betsy was going to hike the Appalachian Trail, run the New York Marathon and scale K2 with Cher?

Anyone have further details?

[quote] A lot of seniors over 70 go into assisted living for the company and companionship, not because they have bone fractures from osteoporosis. AND assisted living it's fucking expensive.

[quote]An ordinary guy Hackman's age would be put in a nursing home because his family can't take care of him. A wealthy MOVIE STAR would get home health care and stay at home. A dimwited spouse would try to take care of a 95 man herself. A dimwited spouse would not have a plan when her 95 year old husband insists he doesn't need care. It's possible Betsy, being so grateful she got to live with a movie star in a mansion, went along with Gene's wishes.

This made a lot of sense.

It’s a tragedy Betsy wasn’t able to retire.

What is the truth? Can someone give me a run-down of what the truth is?

She was his gatekeeper, sounded like she even controlled her diet.

He looked so frail and malnourished...

I think he probably fell and died.

I think they had a pact, to die together...

So she took some pills and ODed to join him in the afterlife...for all eternity!

He's fine, OP. He sends his love.

From the Gene Hackman is dead to me thread

[quote] TCM should do a day of his movies.

I agree. Teri Garr died in late October. TCM did a marathon night of her movies(I remember it was Young Frankenstein, Oh God, and Black Beauty) in January. Maybe, TCM will have a Gene Hackman day in May.

"Friends say she was fiercely protective of him". Others might call it controlling and manipulative, cutting him off from everyone else, especially those pesky, ungrateful children who never called because she wouldn't let them speak to him alone, ever, for decades.

R595 Okay, grandpa. You are young.

What was on his IPOD?

Falling Down – Tom Waits

Catch Me Now I’m Falling – The Kinks

Free Fallin’ -Tom Petty

'The Mighty Fall' by Fall Out Boy

Could you guys imagine if this was actually a situation resembling MISERY?

Poor Gene poisoned his captor, was on his way to freedom, yet as horrible luck would have it, he slipped & fell on his way out.

Investigators searched the $3.8 million home on Thursday and found thyroid medication and Diltiazem inside, along with Tylenol.

Arakawa was found dead on the floor of the couple's bathroom. An open bottle of prescription pills was found partially scattered on a countertop nearby.

Police also listed two green phones, a 2025 monthly calendar planner and the couple's health records, but didn't go into detail about what was in them

'Despite his age, he was in very good physical condition,' she revealed, while adding that her father did not have any major surgeries these last few months.

'He liked to do Pilates and yoga, and he was continuing to do that several times a week. So he was in good health.'

Dilziatem:

The tentative timeline suggests that the Hackmans had been dead undiscovered for up to two weeks, so it's possible he was already dead - or just dead - when OP made his post.

Potential inconsistencies:

[quote]A man who described himself as a caretaker of the subdivision called 911 to report the bodies, according to the call audio. He said that the door was locked and that he could not go inside, but that he saw them through the window and they were not moving.

And yet:

[quote]Two maintenance workers said they found the couple’s front door ajar when they went to check on the residence, according to the affidavit.

Another door perhaps? Maybe he knew that the lady of the house preferred workers to enter through the rear?

From the article at R30:

"Both bodies showed "obvious signs of death," according to the affidavit."

Gee, Yahoo AI news writer bot, ya think?!

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Ajar is a reporter's word. No worker ever said, "the door was ajar", they'd say "it was open a little, like, this much", or estaba abierta, basically anything but "ajar".

I met this old lady at a wedding who lived out in that area on a hill. Her driveway took 20 minutes to navigate. 20 more minutes to a gas station and an hour to a supermarket. She lived there with her stupid husband and NO PETS. More people live in my apartment building than the 3 towns closest to her. She only came down from her mountain to attend the lesbian wedding of her 80yo sister. She seemed shell shocked, especially when the world's oldest maid of honor created drama by saying in her toast, "she loved me first" and the bride shouted from across the room, "but you never put out!". Seriously.

Yes op

R34 FFS

not all foreign factions are small

^ Mrs Patsy Ramsey, is that you?

To the Hackman children, follow the Silk Road as far as it will take you. There, I will meet you at the station. You will know it is me. Come alone

Hopefully this will encourage more people to check in on their elderly parents. JFC, it takes 60 seconds to send a HOW YA DOIN' text message.

Very true r40. It’s one thing to not have talked to your 95 year old dad since Christmas but not shooting them a text?

Perhaps though he never got into smartphones the way you would expect even a current 80 year old to? And that’s why his wife appeared to wear the pants and seemingly control his phone and email?

This is pretty embarrassing for their families. NO ONE tried to contact them in two weeks?!?!? He had kids and grandkids. And, what about her? Didn't she have any family?

A couple articles I read about Hackman said he and his wife moved to the outskirts of Santa Fe for privacy and to escape Hollywood life. He probably didn't want a lot of attention or visitors. I live adjacent to a retirement community and know many of its residents. Some have frequent contact with their children, some don't. Quite a few of them put privacy on a pedestal. Not talking to your parents frequently doesn't mean you are estranged. In my experience, adults who are super close to their parents and vice versa often have enmeshed, dysfunctional relationships.

What was on his IPOD?

We're all alone.

Just got an alert. He and his wife both tested negative for carbon monoxide.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

Is it possible she tripped on the dog? setting off a horrible sequence of events?

CBS Sunday Morning interview from 2000.

he died 9 days before being found according to his pace maker info

R46 you’re way off base with your assumptions

If was found fallen in the mudroom - which is usually a small foyer-type room between the main house and the front or back door - it implies to me that he was trying to leave the house perhaps, to get help? Or trying to reach an entry/exit door.

R51 I doubt it

What kind of funeral will he have?

Just wondering because he was an old school Marine.

Trump needs to call the family and offer his condolences, along with whatever bells and whistles Hackman is entitled to, even if the family declines.

I also hope his CoS or assistant printed out and mailed a Presidential letter of condolences to the family. Trump’s old school so he probably already took care of it, one hopes.

Hackman was a national treasure- period, end of story.

[quote]Trump’s old school so he probably already took care of it, one hopes.

Are you kidding me? Unless Hackman was a Russian spy or plant, Herr Trump isn't going to be sending his family jack. He has no respect for members of our Armed Forces.

Why? She could’ve tripped over one of the dogs, lost her balance, accidentally grabbed the heater and fell hitting her head. He didn’t have a phone / didn’t know how to use hers because it would be locked, so he set out to try to summon help but being upset and unsteady, he also slipped and fell.

A big house like that, I’m surprised they didn’t have a cleaning woman coming in.

R34 I would be shocked by that toast too

R34 Is unable to communicate with others unless she makes the story about herself.

R53 "Trump's old school"

Old school what?

An old school rapist?

Asshole?

Business failure?

And, you can go fuck off with that Trump Old School bullshit.

I think maybe something happened to her first and she was injured or hurt badly. He went to get her help and was in the mudroom getting ready to leave but was very upset over the event and had a heart attack and dropped dead.

[quote] Is it possible she tripped on the dog? setting off a horrible sequence of events

It’s possible.

Maybe the cleaning woman only comes twice a month and had just been there.

I don't understand why would 2 people need to live in such a big house?

R59 I think it’s possible he died of natural causes and she died by suicide. She was found with pills around her.

I'm not buying the idea she was suicide. She could have lived very comfortably with his money.

Harrison Ford and Calista Flockhart live on a big ranch in Wyoming. Calista is probably taking notes right now on Hackman's death.

R64 Why was she found with pills around her? That sounds just weird. No foul play. No carbon monoxide.

what about the dog?

maybe the dog was sick, she loved the dog so much and was very upset and triggered a medical condition and collapsed, he went to get help but had a heart attack due to all the stress of the situation and dropped dead.

[quote]It’s one thing to not have talked to your 95 year old dad since Christmas but not shooting them a text?

Not only that, his 95th birthday was Jan. 30. You'd think with his age they'd make a point to reach Dad on his birthday. He's not likely to have many more.

I'm going with the she found him dead then took her own life theory. It's not always about money. She may have not wanted to go on without him. But I do wish the dog had been saved.

They had a pact to die together

There's definitely a sense that the kids and dad didn't have a very close relationship. That might have been a long time thing or maybe the wife was a fierce gatekeeper.

Short TCM tribute

This article discusses his children.

Maybe they didn't like their stepmother

My theory: he died first, she took her own life soon after. She locked the older dog in the crate and left the front door open, to alert the neighbors and/or allow welfare checkers to get into the home.

I agree R76. Still, it was extremely cruel to lock 1animal in a cage to starve to death.

I wonder if the older dog was incontinent and was kept in crate with chucks pads during the night. It could have been a set up in which they let the dog out of the crate in the mornings for exercise and eating. It could have been that Betsy had a medical episode in the bathroom and fell while the dog was still in the crate. Gene heard the fall from the mudroom and may have tripped trying to get to Betsy.

Doug Lanham owned Jinja Bar & Bistro in Santa Fe, New Mexico when he first met Hackman. The two struck up a friendship and Hackman eventually became co-owner of the restaurant, which specializes in the "cultures and cuisine of the Pacific Islands and East Asia".

Lanham also recalled that Hackman's wife, Betsy Arakawa, kept her husband on a strict diet, so he would often order the halibut or rice-paper salmon. Hackman could only sneak a cheat meal when he was out golfing, Lanham added.

The spilled medication they found was not something one could overdose on.

There is no surveillance in the interior or exterior of the residence.

The two maintenance workers who found the couple, one of whom called the emergency services, say they last had contact with the couple two weeks earlier.

The two said they had sometimes conducted routine work at the property, but rarely ever saw Hackman and Arakawa.

They had communicated with them by phone and text, primarily with Arakawa.

Would you take pills then lie down in the bathroom? Wouldn’t you lie down somewhere comfortable?

I think she died by accident/had a seizure and he had a fall when going to get help.

R78 that seems plausible.

I feel awful for them. Because Gene Hackman always seemed like such a powerful man. It shows how fragile life is.

I came to the same conclusion as r78.

It was heat exhaustion.

^ or toxic fumes

Of all the many anxieties I carry around with me, one of the worst is this: The fear that I'll die somewhere and that it will take days or weeks to ID my body and contact anyone, and in the meantime my pets will be home alone, starving and frightened. Thanks lot, Gene, for stoking my nightmare fuel! That poor, poor dog.

Betsy's only living relative is her 91 year old mother who has dementia. The mother's housekeeper did an interview with Daily Mail and said that Betsy stopped calling the mom months ago.

Where did it say that none of the children had checked on them in a while?

My guess is she fell first, she hasn't been well and therefore hasn't called her 91 year old mom in months, she calls once a month. She's a caretaker, therefore she puts herself last.

Gene found her and went to get help but the stress is too much for him, his weak heart gave out and he dropped dead.

my question is how come so many seniors and elderly people are soooo skinny?

Arakawa, 65, was found lying on the bathroom floor with a space heater and an open bottle of prescription medication nearby with pills “scattered on the counter-top,” per an affidavit for the search warrant obtained by NBC News Feb. 27. The medications taken from the home were an unspecified thyroid medication, the painkiller Tylenol and the blood pressure medication Diltiazem, according to the outlet.

Nobody cares, r88.

[quote]Thanks lot, Gene, for stoking my nightmare fuel!

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Hackman’s health had declined in recent months.

He was essentially kind of home-bound. Around a year ago, Hackman had quit riding his bike through the neighborhood.

Betsy tried to keep him kind of active and engaged. He did puzzles and yoga via Zoom daily. She was in perfect health and was so fit.

Gene Hackman and his wife Betsy Arakawa were devoted pet owners before they were recently found dead, alongside one of their beloved dog, at their Santa Fe home.

The couple were very responsible caregivers to their animals.

They always had German shepherd rescues, and they were really good to their dogs and very responsible dog owners.

At this time, it is not known where the two surviving canines are, but safety would be something Hackman and Arakawa would have been concerned about.

I wonder where this part will be squeezed into the Oscars.

Riveting actor.

He was great, I enjoyed his movies.

He was 95, he had a good long run. Feel sympathy for his wife and dog who died, still don't know why.

R98 I love that.

Morgan Freeman is the perfect presenter.

Word is that he will ask those in the audience who had worked with Gene to stand. Hopefully there will be some there. Meryl? Candice Bergen? Faye? Liza?

Faye will think she’s being called to the stage to accept an Oscar for “Bonnie & Clyde,” and Liza will believe Momma is about to receive a full-sized, lifetime achievement version—in person.

How can a door be a jar?

How can a caregiver be a caretaker?

By marrying him.

Imagine if Gene had been described as "fiercely protective" of a woman younger than his children. What if he'd controlled her phone calls, diet, medications all her relationships with her 3 kids, all her friends, moved her to the woods and made hand signals to give her orders in public? I think the narrative would be a little different.

I want to hear what Gene's 3 kids have to say.

The same way a jar can be adoor

Article on the dogs. Features interviews with an animal chiropractor and a dog trainer who knew Betsy and Gene.

Glad he was properly respected at the Oscars

If we only knew what the dog was thinking 🤔 right then, we’d have the answer

That's why it's important to wear a must when you're cleaning the basement. I read many years ago that a man was cleaning his basement after a storm where his basement was flooded. He got the rodent virus and died.