Ann Margaret Performance on Johnny Carson Min 8:41 - The first real lip sync performance on television? Check out those nips!

I think everyone knew Johnny liked big jugs

Check out those moose meatballs!

She looks a lot older in that clip than I tend to think of her.

Her whole choreography .....

Certainly one of the OG whores

She’s pulling a Doris Day on Johnny!

Her knockers...

I love Ann-Margret, but that was embarrassing.

I always thought she and Elvis looked like siblings. She's a natural brunette, but he's not a bit Swedish.

kissing cousins

A naturally beautiful woman seems so unusual now.

No. Even Judy on her show lip synced.

Never saw Judy lip sync on TV. I like Ann Margaret, But she was not really a singer- she sort of sang while she danced- and not particularly well. I like her more as an actress than her cheesy Vegas gig. This is just awful.

THIS is the Ann Margret I see when I think of her

She loved pills like Elvis did!

[quote] Ann Margaret Performance

Oh, dear.

Is she lip syncing here.

of course what's wrong with lip syncing?

I was surprised to find out she was so short because her presence makes her seem taller. I wish she'd done Broadway. Michael Bennett wanted to do a musical of Love Me or Leave Me starring AM.

I LOVE the moment where she clearly goes out of her staging and the NBC cameras are struggling to keep up with her! She almost knocks over that old 1970's NBC color cam! Johnny..... so perfect after the performance AND did anyone notice after the performance she's huffing and puffing with her boobs and nips bouncing........ and she put her legs in front of her up in her chair to cover that I think! ??

Was the NBC censor out sick that day?

There were hours between the taping and the broadcast.

What about the children?

Very rare for singers to also dance in the 70s. You had to be Vegas-y like Lola Falana, Mitzi Gaynor, Raquel Welch, Joey Heatherton... It just wasn't done.

What makes you think it’s the first? I happen to know Helen Lawson lip-synched most of her numbers on her specials. Her voice was wrecked from too many smokes and blow jobs. The Helenesque drinking didn’t help. That shit was meant to be a fragrance.

Look at those titties bounce!

[quote]You had to be Vegas-y like Lola Falana, Mitzi Gaynor, Raquel Welch, Joey Heatherton... It just wasn't done.

But all of those women indeed had successful Vegas or Reno acts in the 70s.

She danced like she hoped Elvis was watching that night. Remember that move? Call me!

It's always weird to me that her husband Roger Smith was her manager and pushed her to be so sexy.

Take it from someone who was there--almost all the musical performances on television in the 50s and 60s were lip-synced.

[quote] Take it from someone who was there--almost all the musical performances on television in the 50s and 60s were lip-synced.

You were there working in television in the 1950s?? How old you must be.

R12. It’s in the book about her tv show. It came with the box set. She would sing live often but when her voice or mind was shot - she’d lip sync. A big disappointment was one of the Vic Damone performance. She just couldn’t hit the high note. So off to the studio.

She was certainly lip-synching, but there was some feedback and vocal drop out… to make it seem like she was singing live?

Johnny liked mine better! DD

R27, Ed Sullivan insisted music performers sing “live”.

Everyone lip synched on “American Bandstand”.

[quote] Everyone lip synched on “American Bandstand”.

There was one clip of Debbie Harry lip syncing on Bandstand where she lost her place starting to sing the wrong verse and just started giggling as the lip synced track continued flawlessly

While Ann-Margret is gyrating pornographically onstage, her poor mother is in the audience.

How embarrassing.

When I was a kid, she came to my city to perform her show. My mother loved her and dragged me along. I went to the bathroom halfway through and peed next to a tall man, who I later found out was her husband Roger Smith. I remember him being tall and imposing. I only learned a few years ago that he also played the son in the movie Auntie Mame.

Stop hating on Ann’s performance. She was 50, y’all!

Was this before or after the horrifying accident where Ann Margret was dumped by the giant mechanical hand?🖐️ She sustained terrible injuries, and possibly was wearing her bra backwards or forgot it altogether if this performance was subsequent to a sight described as “the Hindenburg disaster of the Strip”.

Considering Ann's list of lovers I've wondered if Roger and Ann were open marriage swingers or just ordinary cheats

This is one of my favourite performances of hers.

Love this!

It's very hard to explain Ann-Margret today. She was a fabulous sex kitten, and she sang and danced, and she also became a serious actress who received genuine critical recognition in middle age. And, she dated Elvis.

AM is one of those rare performers who leaves everything out there. She gives 100% in every live performance and that dynamic, vivacious stage persona is in contrast to her real life personality, which is said to be very shy and introverted.

Kitten with a walker.

Being sexy in Grumpy Old Men 1993

[quote] It's always weird to me that her husband Roger Smith was her manager and pushed her to be so sexy.

Sounds like Suzanne Somers crusty husband. Suzanne even had some kind of hokey Las Vegas act. I'm betting they copied Ann-Margret & husband.

You can’t dance that energetically and sing at the same time, no way anyone could maintain breath control. That’s why the musical numbers in most movie musicals were pre-recorded with the stars lip-synching during shooting.

I love her. The young actresses of today have nothing on Ann Margret in terms of charisma and star power.

Performing with Tina Turner

More than that, R45 she's technically the ingenue in the 2017 remake of Going In Style.

Rosemary Clooney lip synced a lot on her syndicated variety show. That's why we have excellent sound quality pre-recordings of those performances, and not just off-line live sound.

Judy Garland lip synchs a fair amount in her tv series. Mel Torme talks about it in his book and explains that while it would be anathema to most singers, Judy was particularly great at it from all the years at MGM.

But the people on her show either got sloppy or were so focused on getting the show in the can they let things slide. You can see her visibly forget the words and fall out of sync on "A Lot of Livin' to Do" on her series, and in the West Side Story medley while she's doing the wordy "Something's Coming" she has a few bubbles and then she laughs and stops lip syncing and literally throws up her hand to sort of hide her mouth from camera, and then get right back in at 1:50.

[quote]who I later found out was her husband Roger Smith. I remember him being tall and imposing. I only learned a few years ago that he also played the son in the movie Auntie Mame.

Did no one tell him that he was supposed to be playing the nephew?

A young Ann Margaret performed at JFK's Madison Square Garden birthday gala 1962. Her rendition of 'Baby Won't You Please Come Home" was overshadowed by Marilyn's legendary Happy Birthday Mr. President. She also attended the after party with Marilyn and Diane Carroll. She recalls being "overwhelmed" in the presence of JFK. No wonder Jackie stayed home.Sadly the Secret Service made sure no photos of Kennedy and any of these ladies were taken and the ones that were were later confiscated. Only one with Monroe survived by mistake.

[quote]Her rendition of 'Baby Won't You Please Come Home" was overshadowed by Marilyn's legendary Happy Birthday Mr. President.

To the point where no one even remembers Ann-Margret being there that night.

R52 is full of shit. Ann-Margret performed at JFK’s 1963 birthday celebration, his final birthday.

“And just like fellow screen siren Marilyn Monroe, Ann-Margret sang for President John F. Kennedy's birthday party in May 1963. It was a year after Monroe's performance, a celebration that turned out to be Kennedy's final birthday. The 46-year-old was assassinated in November of that year.“

Annie recalls thru what seems to be a overmedicated haze her singing for the Prez at 5:01

I'm very good at this sort of trivia but I don't recall this detail.

Ann's performance for Jack may be in the history books but not the general consciousness. Nobody ironically parodies Ann's act.

I'm not aware the two women were in any sort of competition for the history books.

Only on Datalounge would people think they were.

Singers were lip syncing since the early days of television.

R55, She sang to JFK in 1963, not 1962.

My high school speech teacher went to Northwestern and was in the dorm room when Ann got the call that she got cast in State Fair.

I remember on one of those American bandstand type of shows. I didn't the guys were lip syncing until the needle got stuck. It was pretty funny.

That over-the-top, energetic type of performance was popular back then.

[quote] I remember on one of those American bandstand type of shows. I didn't the guys were lip syncing until the needle got stuck.

Accidents happen

[quote]My high school speech teacher went to Northwestern and was in the dorm room when Ann got the call that she got cast in State Fair.

What a stinker that 1962 remake was. Pat Boone was Ann-Margret's love interest and Tom Ewell sang to a pig.

The only good thing I can say about the 1962 version of "State Fair" is that if featured Pamela Tiffin, one of DL's favorite starlets.

R65, It also marked Alice Faye’s return to the silver screen.

The Mamas and the Papas certainly lip synched on Ed Sullivan. Where on earth did OP get the idea this was the "first real" lip synch on television?

Is she wearing Northwestern purple?

Is there any female artist comparable to her from the 80s 90s or 2000s? Or even now?

“My understanding is that the Sullivan rule was no lip syncing allowed. All performances by vocalists had to be live. Occasionally the musical accompaniment was pre-recorded but the vocal performance is always live. Uncertain if each act did perform lip syncing, some are very obvious.

Michelle Phillips of The Mamas and the Papas didn't like that they were being forced to lip-sync. She protested on the Ed Sullivan show by eating a banana during the band's performance.”

Does she have some kind of invisible support? The jugs didn't bounce THAT much.

Why was JFK having birthday parties in Madison Square Garden? Were they fund-raisers?

It's been suggested that the dream cast for the movie of Gypsy would have been Garland as Rose and AM as Louise.

Bitch stole my act.

On American Bandstand acts lip-synced because they wanted to promote the actual record. AB went on the air in 1952.

[quote] It's been suggested that the dream cast for the movie of Gypsy would have been Garland as Rose and AM as Louise.

That would not have worked. Garland would have been too neurotic and high-strung--Rose has to be a real bull in a china shop. Even if the real AM is shy in real life, it's hard to imagine her during the parts where Louise is dressed as a newsboy and crushing on Tulsa and keeping herself to the background.

It's a "dream" cast, r76.

R77, Wouldn’t Judy and Liza be more of a “dream” cast?

R76 Lansbury was no bull in a china shop, nor was Peters. It's about interpretation. Russell was a bull in a china shop and as Pauline Kael correctly noted, she came across as psychopathic. Merman likely would have as well. The medium is just different and Garland knew it and the storyline very well.

I wonder how Vivian Vance might have approached the character of Mama Rose.

Hell, I wonder how Lucy would have approached Rose.

Unrelated: in the late 80’s/early 90’s I went to a radio promoted concert (think Jingle Ball - like that) Adam Ant was an act. In the middle of his first song the tape quit before Adam realized it. Boos from the crowd - Adam ran off. Taylor Dayne came out & promised ‘i sing live & am prepared to do it acapella if need be’ Never forgot it

Her name is Ann-Margret, you fucking catamite!

The "let's see if we can derail another thread with off topic minutia) Queens have arrived.

Ann would have been perfect in the Sunset Boulevard musical, but I fear that her voice was mostly gone by the time it premiered on Broadway.

[quote]The "let's see if we can derail another thread with off topic minutia) Queens have arrived.

This tends to happen when the original topic (Ann-Margret on Johnny Carson) has been exhausted.

Did you guys think she was hiding her jugs at the very end of that clip when she sat back down? Totally seemed like that.

I never thought of Ann-Margret as someone who tried to hide her jugs.

R88, Neither have I.

Sent this clip to my older hetro brother. He said he jerked off to her tits

Min 12:21 of this original clip. She pulls her legs up into the chair like she's hiding her jugs after the performance. She keeps them there for the last part of the interview after her performance. (?)

You know Johnny put his dick between those.

Those puppies were real!

“Well, we got a first on our show. And a second, I think.” Oh, Johnny….

When Carol Wayne was fired she was difficult to replace. I expect Carson auditioned dozens before he found the one

Because she was bra less all her gyrating caused the thin fabric of her top to rub her nipples erect . When she realized that her wind indicators were up she drew her legs up to cover her eraser heads. You homos really are clueless re titties.

Actually, she covered her mooseballs up after getting a side view of Ed’s boner.

Lol, she wasn't braless, r96.

R95 Teresa Ganzel is one of the sweetest and most professional people you'll ever meet. And a relatively unsung talent, but she's worked beside multiple generations of comedy legends, from Jackie Gleason to Richard Pryor to John Ritter to Jim Carrey, and held her own with them.

[R96] you are the FIRST and ONLY one to agree that she was in fact trying to cover her jugs! I don't care the reason but she was!!!! I don't care if she was or wasn't wearing a bra.. .but she was for sure trying to cover them at the end of that act when she got back into the chair to talk to Johnny.

It did seem like she was trying to cover her chest (raising her legs up on the chair). She was probably self-conscious about her nips.

That dance was awful, but it was of its time.

It looks like she was wearing one of those “tipless” bras from Fredericks of Hollywood that expose the nips. Maybe the underwire gave out unexpectedly while she was careening around, while is why she became disoriented and nearly ran over the camera man.

**which is why

She was not covering her tits. By drawing up her legs she was exposing her panty less pussy to Johnny who got a great whiff of the Annie vage. You can see his nostrils flare at 3:12. You fags are really clueless when it comes to hetero seduction.

[quote]That dance was awful, but it was of its time.

Ann-Margret's herky-jerky dance numbers in movies like "Viva Las Vegas" are actually pretty hilarious to watch now. As you noted, definitely of their time.

Imagine “Silence of the Lambs” with Ann-Margret as Clarice. A.I., please make it happen.

R91, She mentioned her mother three times during the interview but Carson would not take the bait and show her sitting in the audience.

Carson was pretty much an asshole, popular as he was in his day.

She's seriously coked up here.

I’ve always thought she had such a hard, aged face. Nice figure but she looks mean.

She also cannot dance or sing well. Very B list talent.

She got her big break as the mistress of Director, George Sidney, who directed her in "Bye, Bye Birdie" and "Viva Las Vegas". He "shared" her with some movie bigwigs who gave her multiple breaks. Never much of a singer or dancer, she did have personality and drive and that connected with some audience members who overlooked the other shortcomings.

Check out her very first appearance on Johnny Carson. Night and day.

Where it all began

[quote]She got her big break as the mistress of Director, George Sidney, who directed her in "Bye, Bye Birdie" and "Viva Las Vegas".

Actually she got her big break from Frank Capra playing Bette Davis' daughter in "Pocket Of Miracles" but became a star with "Bye Bye Birdie".

I got to meet her twice, thanks CHILLER! and have the limited edition "Bye, Bye Birdie" Blu-ray signed. She was so lovely and had not seen the disc yet and said, "Well, let's take a look at this" and put her glasses on and looked it over front and back.

(r114) She was not Capra's mistress but after she became Sidney's, career connections were assured, and she began to receive the kind of backing that helped make her a star. At Fox, she received a major role in "State Fair" via a studio exec at that studio.

If you watch the video with the sound muted, she looks ridiculous.

This was from the era when Sweden had a reputation for free love, porn, couples who cohabited without marrying, so I guess she fitted into that stereotype.

She really fucked around prior to settling down with Roger Smith.

She even dated Eddie Fisher for a while.

She's a whore dear.

[quote]If you watch the video with the sound muted, she looks ridiculous.

Everybody dancing with no sound looks ridiculous in the 70's

This performance may have its deficiencies, but I honestly don't think she was lip-syncing. A couple of times, the mic comes away from her mouth, and her voice fades out. Also, when someone is lip-syncing, the vocal track is higher in the mix and consistent throughout. Here, it is not.

[quote]She even dated Eddie Fisher for a while.

Who didn't?

Carson's former attorney, Henry "Bombastic" Bushkin wrote a book that amongst other sleazy stuff included adulterous affairs that Johnny had including with Ann-Margret.

On the flip side, Ann-Margret has always maintained that she has a special relationship with Jesus, and she's even recorded a gospel album.

Ok I watched with the sound off. She's a terrible dancer in this number.