Joy Behar appalled at thought of letting voters decide the presidency

70 million Americans are certified idiots: they voted for a pathological liar, a con artist/grifter, a convicted thief, a narcissistic moron. Said moron instigated and led and armed insurrection against the United States Constitution simply because his massive ego won't allow him to admit he was defeated. Furthermore, these 70 million idiots think Donald J. Trump is the second coming of Jesus Christ.

So no, 70 million American voters must NOT be allowed to decide if Donald Trump should be president of the United States. Don't like it, don't vote for certifiable egomaniacal morons when they run for office.

It's also in the Constitution that you have to be a natural born citizen and over 35 to run for President. It doesn't always matter what the voters think, some things are in the Constitution. For example, the Constitution says you can't be President if you've engaged in insurrection. If we're gonna allow Trump then it's not clear what the point of that amendment is or when it would ever actually possibly be enforced.

Team Joy.

Her point was the constitution says an insurrectionist is disqualified for running for public office. An election shouldn't determine if he can be president any more than a foreign born person can run for president.

[quote] An election shouldn't determine if he can be president any more than a foreign born person can run for president.

The requirement is that they be a natural-born citizen. Should a state be allowed to declare that a candidate not to their liking is not a natural-born citizen and then use that to bar them from the ballot, or is that a status that only the federal government can determine?

She's not a lawyer and doesn't provide any constitutional basis for her contention. Has she even read Trump's filing? Apparently, it is incredibly weak and poorly constructed.

OP, Trump tried to use the courts to overturn the election

Fuck off

[quote] It's also in the Constitution that you have to be a natural born citizen and over 35 to run for President. It doesn't always matter what the voters think, some things are in the Constitution.

The requirements for being President of the United States apply uniformly in all states. One state cannot declare a candidate is over the age of 35 and another say he is not. He’s 35 in all the states or he’s not in all the states. Similarly, we will find that two states cannot declare that a candidate engaged in insurrection when the other 48 do not. It’s all or nothing.

Boris has invaded the DL more than usual lately and will continue to spew shit like this until the election. Don’t fall for it and certainly don’t feed it. Let them eat borscht.

[quote]Her point was the constitution says an insurrectionist is disqualified for running for public office.

Look, I don’t ever want that clown to be the president again, but the section you are referring to says that such persons may not hold office. It doesn’t say they cannot run for office. I realize this seems like splitting hairs, but it also says that the provision they cannot hold office can be overturned by 2/3 of both the House and the Senate. Since the House and Senate can’t override section 3 of the 14th amendment and appoint a president who wasn’t elected or wasn’t on the ballot, it seems pretty clear from that addition, that if he is unable to run, then congress is unable to “remove such disability” (i.e. override the disqualification). So what would the point of including that provision be?

Personally, I don’t want him removed because Texas is already threatening to remove Biden from the ballot and others are right, it will make right wingers think that he is a martyr and that all elections are rigged.

He’s never gong to win the electors in Colorado or Maine anyway. I don’t want to risk Republicans disqualifying democratic candidates who haven’t committed the crimes that Trump has or make him a martyr and his followers more likely to think elections in the US are rigged, despite the fact that they aren’t.

He needs to stay on the ballot. The alternative is more dangerous.

Well, since we're ignoring the constitution, I wonder if Obama would be willing to jump in and run this year.

^ Yeah, let's get Obama back. The constitution says that a president can only serve two terms, but it doesn't specifically say that Obama can only serve two terms... Let the voters decide 😏

I wouldn't take legal advice from these hens on the View.

The former,POTUS did not want voters to decide what candidate won

^ I wouldn't take advice on how to boil water from them

Just learned that "Stephie" makes $25 million a year. For what?

R13 takes legal advice from Trump

R2 The word "Insurrection" has never appeared in any document since January 7th.

Unless you count the impeachment charges in Congress, r18.

[quote] The word "Insurrection" has never appeared in any document since January 7th.

An interesting but ignored factoid. Not a single arrest or indictment Totally a media/DNC created meme.

How about the "seditious conspiracy" charges Enrique Tarrio of the Proud Boys was found guilty of and sentenced to prison for, r20? Hmm? Could those fancy words mean insurrection? He wasn't the only one. Conspiracy, ya know.

[quote] How about the "seditious conspiracy" charges Enrique Tarrio of the Proud Boys was found guilty of and sentenced to prison for, [R20]?

If Colorado doesn’t proactively bar Tarrio from their ballot also, it doesn’t speak well of their motivation, does it?

Good lord, r22. Don't be so forwardly and proudly stupid. Or at least reread the thread and try to figure out who/what I was answering.

Cunts. The 14th Amendment was designed precisely for someone like Trump.

It is NOT up to the US voters to vote for someone who STILL is instigating insurrection. Just like they're not allowed to vote for toddlers, native-born Hottentots or dead people.

OP, The United States is a constitutional federal republic. The 14th amendment states it clearly in section 3: The lying, failing, vile Orange Tub of Shit tried to overthrow the government of the United States. People DO NOT have the right to vote in a presidential for anyone they want: You need to be at least 35, born in the United states and HAVE NOT COMMITTED AN ACT OF INSURRECTION against the USA. That is not up for a vote.

Fourteenth Amendment, Section 3:​

"No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability."

[Quote] I wouldn't take legal advice from these hens on the View.

The Supreme Court isn’t any better. Partisan hacks.

OP is the usual MAGA troll.

OP is the kind of Troll who made Joy apologize to Christians when she said that people who talk to God are sane, but people like VP Pence, who claims that God talks to HIM, are FUCKING CRAZY. Joy was right before she was forced to apologize and she is just as right here.

Doesn't matter, insurrection in this matter is civil, not criminal and since there's no criminal consequence like jail judges can disqualify Trump at their discretion. No one is taking anything away from Trump, they're just saying he's not eligible to be president

R17 eats old people's excrement!

[quote]Joy Behar appalled at thought of letting voters decide the presidency

[quote]Joy Behar appalled at thought of not following law designed to protect our democracy from further insurrection

Fixed it for ya!

So on datalounge Stephanopoulos gets a free pass for supporting "insurrection". White male privilege ?

Isn’t she dead yet? Why can’t she be dead ?