Decolonization - the new empty buzzword.
Lily Gladstone on Why She Uses She/They Pronouns: A Way of 'Decolonizing Gender for Myself'
by Anonymous | reply 125 | January 7, 2024 3:49 PM |
Who?
by Anonymous | reply 1 | January 3, 2024 12:09 AM |
Who ?
by Anonymous | reply 2 | January 3, 2024 12:09 AM |
Actress (although it doesn't seem like she likes that word) in Killers of the Flower Moon.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | January 3, 2024 12:15 AM |
I just don't have the energy to sort out what she/they is saying.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | January 3, 2024 12:24 AM |
It amazing how delusional people are. The fact that people feel comfortable making such stupid narcissistic proclamations is incredible.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | January 3, 2024 12:25 AM |
WHO?
by Anonymous | reply 6 | January 3, 2024 12:29 AM |
BRAVE
by Anonymous | reply 7 | January 3, 2024 12:31 AM |
She claims when she was NINE, "being like, everybody should just be they.”
That never happened.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | January 3, 2024 12:32 AM |
She was incredibly underwhelming in killers of the flower moon
by Anonymous | reply 9 | January 3, 2024 12:32 AM |
I decolonized a kilo of bananas at the supermarket yesterday.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | January 3, 2024 2:12 AM |
That interview isn’t going to help win her an Oscar. Especially because she doesn’t like being called an actress.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | January 3, 2024 2:49 AM |
How does she feel about being called fat?
by Anonymous | reply 12 | January 3, 2024 2:51 AM |
Let's come up with fun ways to use "decolonizing" or "decolonization".
"R12, I don't adhere to the term 'fat'; it's a way of decolonizing obesity for myself."
by Anonymous | reply 13 | January 3, 2024 3:39 AM |
Maybe try reading the article before you trash it. There's nothing wrong with what she is saying.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | January 3, 2024 4:26 AM |
She's working on decolonizing her refrigerator.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | January 3, 2024 4:38 AM |
Decolonize the odor from your pussy first.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | January 3, 2024 4:43 AM |
Her grandfather was called The Iron Woman because he loved to iron.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | January 3, 2024 4:51 AM |
I already posted this in the Oscars thread. Apparently OP couldn’t bear the awful fact that IT DIDN'T HAVE ITS OWN THREAD.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | January 3, 2024 4:56 AM |
Oh, look, the datalounge Republicans found a new non-white and non-binary person to pick on!!!!
Do you guys ever get tired of finding harmless celebrities to bully? Have you moved on from Billy Porter and Dylan Mulvaney?
by Anonymous | reply 19 | January 3, 2024 4:56 AM |
Oh no! Making fun of celebrities! We can't have that on DL!
by Anonymous | reply 20 | January 3, 2024 4:58 AM |
[quote]It amazing how delusional people are. The fact that people feel comfortable making such stupid narcissistic proclamations is incredible.
Actors are generally narcissistic and self-absorbed.
This 'woke' thing allows them to continue playing make-believe off-set.
But it's also making them even more insufferable.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | January 3, 2024 4:58 AM |
she/they feels like an tacit acknowledgement that no one will ever default to or come up with 'they' on their own without being directed to use it. So you could have kept it to yourself. I get some people don't feel strictly male or female but defining ambiguity feels optional/tedious to me.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | January 3, 2024 5:20 AM |
I'll accept what people say to call themselves but part of it too is that everyone has had moments where they've looked or felt more or less masculine or feminine. She/they feels like saying "I'm special and I'm not even all that committed to gender non-conformity".
by Anonymous | reply 23 | January 3, 2024 5:27 AM |
Actress being actressy.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | January 3, 2024 6:51 AM |
[quote] That interview isn’t going to help win her an Oscar. Especially because she doesn’t like being called an actress.
Actress is now politically incorrect. Even Wikipedia won’t allow it. Everyone is an actor. SAG made a big deal about this with all the female actresses saying that they were actors. What a bore.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | January 3, 2024 7:29 AM |
R21, they’ve veered into full-blown mental illness.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | January 3, 2024 7:30 AM |
[quote]Gladstone adds that her pronoun use is a way of “embracing that when I'm in a group of ladies, I know that I'm a little bit different."
This is such an adolescent mindset. Out of curiosity I googled Gladstone's age - she's 37!
by Anonymous | reply 27 | January 3, 2024 10:42 AM |
Pardon me, I need to step into the restroom to decolonize my bladder.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | January 3, 2024 10:57 AM |
So if she wins an Actress award will she not accept? Kate Hepburn says this is rot. You're either in the business or not.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | January 3, 2024 11:01 AM |
She is up for a Golden Globe as Best Female Actor.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | January 3, 2024 11:08 AM |
It will not win.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | January 3, 2024 11:16 AM |
“And the award for Outstanding Performance by a They/Them goes to…”
by Anonymous | reply 32 | January 3, 2024 11:47 AM |
What r19 said.
Focusing on a non-story like this allows Repugs to try to divert attention from their attempt to, on January 6th, 2020, loot and colonize my legal, non-fraudulent vote for Joe Biden.
People that are so in thrall to the likes of Donald Trump should be the last to be heard from on anything.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | January 3, 2024 12:05 PM |
Is she a lesbian?
by Anonymous | reply 35 | January 3, 2024 12:10 PM |
Trump derangement syndrome means bringing up January 6 in a thread about Lily Gladstone’s gender pronouns.
R34, you couldn’t find a way to bring up Russia either? What is wrong with you?
by Anonymous | reply 36 | January 3, 2024 12:10 PM |
And no she will not win Best Actress with interviews like this. Best Supporting Actress may even be a fight but even Mo’nique won that one with her problems.
by Anonymous | reply 37 | January 3, 2024 12:12 PM |
Going forward there should be 3 categories. Best male performance, best female performance and least worst non binary gender non conforming narcissist performance.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | January 3, 2024 12:13 PM |
I would have said she was a lock. First Native American to win a top Oscar. Everyone gets to feel good about that. But Hollywood isn’t as woke as usual. Someone needs to ask her about Gaza. That could finish her.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | January 3, 2024 12:28 PM |
R36-
Trump Enthrallment Syndrome means, to avoid accepting the moral, electoral and criminal rot in your cult leader Trump and yourselves, you bring up inconsequential stuff like Lily Gladstone’s gender pronouns.
I get it. That shit works with you and Repugs. But expect to get called out for it for what it is-nothing.
You and your ilk are actually the ones hiding behind Lily Gladstone.
You brought up Russia, not me.
by Anonymous | reply 40 | January 3, 2024 1:10 PM |
So, we're only supposed to talk about Trump? Celebrity gossip is no longer allowed?
Just trying to understand the new 'rules.'
by Anonymous | reply 41 | January 3, 2024 1:11 PM |
R40 bing doesn't do perfect text transcription but I believe this gets the point across
by Anonymous | reply 42 | January 3, 2024 1:36 PM |
She clearly isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer. Just before the first "big" award of the season, the Golden Globes, and she opens up her big mouth.
by Anonymous | reply 43 | January 3, 2024 1:40 PM |
It's like I'm paying her publicist.
by Anonymous | reply 44 | January 3, 2024 1:42 PM |
Do you think she was high when she said that? Because that reads like someone on a nice sativa high thinking they’re being deep.
by Anonymous | reply 45 | January 3, 2024 1:43 PM |
"Cool Girl" bullshit, re-branded.
by Anonymous | reply 46 | January 3, 2024 1:43 PM |
Indeed, R14, she's basically admitting that, nonbinary, "gender identity" and pronouns are not anything to do with some innate, immutable feeling and all to do with a political choice and making a political statement.
As r46 says, it's "Cool Girl" bullshit, re-branded.
by Anonymous | reply 48 | January 3, 2024 1:54 PM |
Leo must be so pissed she is the female lead in his movie. He went from Margot Robbie to this they person.
by Anonymous | reply 49 | January 3, 2024 1:57 PM |
I love love love her!!
by Anonymous | reply 50 | January 3, 2024 1:59 PM |
How…pretentious.
by Anonymous | reply 51 | January 3, 2024 2:15 PM |
R49: I don't think he gives a shit. He has zero chemistry with every female co-star.
by Anonymous | reply 52 | January 3, 2024 2:21 PM |
But Leo had blazing chemistry with Brad Pitt (he/him)
by Anonymous | reply 53 | January 3, 2024 2:24 PM |
Scorsese's films have had zero luck at the Oscars. Gangs of NY, The Wolf of Wall Street, and The Irishman all went home empty handed. KOTFM underperformed at the box office and she is the film's arguably only real shot at a win. I don't think this annoying, attention seeking stunt rules her out completely but it will make the conservative voters ponder whether or not they want to listen to some chubby, uncharismatic actress give PC speeches all season long.
by Anonymous | reply 54 | January 3, 2024 2:29 PM |
If I decided to be non binary or decolonize gender I’d have some fun with it and call myself it
by Anonymous | reply 55 | January 3, 2024 2:29 PM |
Before Columbo discovered America the native Indians has no understanding of sex.
They just understood 🍆 and 🍩 and sometimes when the 🍆 went in the 🍩 then sometime layer a baby would cone out of the 🍩 and the baby would have either a 🍆 or a 🍩 but sometimes there were 🍆 people who liked go put their 🍆 into another 🍆 person and the Indians were find with that until Colombo said ‘I’m a white supremacist patriarchal heteronormative and this is a sin!’
by Anonymous | reply 56 | January 3, 2024 2:37 PM |
It/that pronouns 🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭
by Anonymous | reply 57 | January 3, 2024 2:37 PM |
Lily, we want to be decolonized too.
Say it. Say it.
by Anonymous | reply 58 | January 3, 2024 2:38 PM |
I wonder if she's pals with this non-binary state legislator from Michigan.
by Anonymous | reply 59 | January 3, 2024 2:44 PM |
Ishka bibble shika shish.
by Anonymous | reply 60 | January 3, 2024 2:44 PM |
I'm much too cool to be contained in a singular "she". I have so much passion, I need a they! I hope people don't think it's because I weigh as much as two people.
by Anonymous | reply 62 | January 3, 2024 3:02 PM |
We're grooming her to be the new Sada Thompson.
by Anonymous | reply 63 | January 3, 2024 3:15 PM |
Did she get a decolonoscopy?
by Anonymous | reply 64 | January 3, 2024 3:18 PM |
Decolonizing gender? Has everybody lost their collection minds?
by Anonymous | reply 65 | January 3, 2024 3:29 PM |
This movie may have called for a fat, native chick. But most movies don't, unless they do a second season of The Curse, I doubt we'll see they again.
by Anonymous | reply 66 | January 3, 2024 3:40 PM |
I first encountered pronoun reveals in the context of working with LGBT youth. As an exercise to make trans people in the room feel safe and understood. So you say your pronouns too in respect and a little solidarity. I had no idea a whole generation would take it on as kind of a game?
by Anonymous | reply 67 | January 3, 2024 4:57 PM |
Why wouldn't they? Everything they do is a game. In a few years they'll be married frauen.
by Anonymous | reply 68 | January 3, 2024 6:08 PM |
I'll stop but.. I know a bunch of people added pronouns in the same spirit of support. Turns out the internet is a little different that 12 trans, gay and allies sitting in a room. Did people try to go wide with the gender stuff? Kinda backfired. I'd bet trans people feel less safe online than 10 years ago. The information I got in college was that being trans might really be Very Rare. This is from an LGBT org. Like between .1% and 1% of the population max. Maybe that number should have been higher, maybe definitions have changed.
by Anonymous | reply 69 | January 3, 2024 7:33 PM |
At the very least, I hope she's not the type to ascribe double pronouns to herself and then get pissed off when someone uses the "wrong" one for the particular day or circumstance.
by Anonymous | reply 70 | January 3, 2024 7:48 PM |
I just decolonized my colon.
You might want to light a match if you go in there.
by Anonymous | reply 71 | January 3, 2024 7:48 PM |
1% would be bullish. I think people said .1% of the population in the 90s. small enough to basically ignore or not worry about. But then it would have been limited to people trying to fully pass. in the same time period, being gay could be as many as 1 in 10. LBG still polls smaller than that.
by Anonymous | reply 72 | January 3, 2024 7:55 PM |
I wonder if R56 meant to say “Columbus” and not “Columbo”, because it’s more fun to imagine him “colonizing gender.” Whatever the f that is supposed to mean in the first place.
by Anonymous | reply 73 | January 3, 2024 9:18 PM |
[quote]I wonder if [R56] meant to say “Columbus” and not “Columbo”, because it’s more fun to imagine him “colonizing gender.” Whatever the f that is supposed to mean in the first place.
Columbu discovered America Ferrera and Colombia which was named after him.
Or should Columbu's pronouns be they/them?
by Anonymous | reply 74 | January 3, 2024 9:35 PM |
She's come a long way from dancing on a fountain.
by Anonymous | reply 75 | January 3, 2024 9:36 PM |
I think a lot of this behavior is driven by a maddening kind of social anxiety. Imagine being quite young and mostly liberal leaning in your instincts - you have to perform this shit or you're toast.
by Anonymous | reply 76 | January 4, 2024 12:05 AM |
The "everyone gets to be a victim"game show.
by Anonymous | reply 77 | January 4, 2024 1:22 AM |
The “I wanna be a victim too!” status seekers and clout chasers.
by Anonymous | reply 78 | January 4, 2024 8:07 PM |
Can anybody at least clear up if she was any good in the Movie?
by Anonymous | reply 79 | January 4, 2024 11:43 PM |
She sounds like a real prize.
by Anonymous | reply 80 | January 5, 2024 5:32 PM |
[quote]I wonder if [[R56]] meant to say “Columbus” and not “Columbo”,
His real Italian name is Cristoforo Colombo.
by Anonymous | reply 81 | January 5, 2024 11:47 PM |
[quote]Can anybody at least clear up if she was any good in the Movie?
Sacheen Littletalent.
by Anonymous | reply 82 | January 5, 2024 11:52 PM |
[quote]Lily Gladstone Won’t Let Hollywood Put Her in a Box
Honey, you’re too fat for a box.
by Anonymous | reply 84 | January 6, 2024 11:37 AM |
Never heard of the stupid cow.
by Anonymous | reply 85 | January 6, 2024 11:43 AM |
Can someone summarize? I don’t want to subscribe to the Times.
by Anonymous | reply 86 | January 6, 2024 12:06 PM |
She is doing so much pr damage I think Oscar voters will purposely put her into lead where she is almost certain to lose to Emma Stone (dark horse Margot Robbie) than to put her in Supporting where she would be considered the clear frontrunner and where Academy members would be forced to vote for her out of fear of the organization being branded racist (again.)
by Anonymous | reply 87 | January 6, 2024 12:09 PM |
The “Killers of the Flower Moon” star says awards attention feels like “being shot out of a cannon.” For a long time, she’d kept her distance from the industry.
In college, Lily Gladstone studied the history of Native American actors in Hollywood. Now, she’s making it.
The 37-year-old actress has been checking off all sorts of awards-season firsts thanks to “Killers of the Flower Moon,” the Martin Scorsese-directed period drama in which she plays Mollie Burkhart, an Osage woman whose relatives are systematically murdered by her husband (Leonardo DiCaprio) and his uncle (Robert De Niro) in a bid to seize her family’s oil-rich Oklahoma land. If Mollie is the movie’s conscience, Gladstone is its center of gravity: Even when she shares scenes with A-listers like DiCaprio and De Niro, the film bends to her.
That portrayal has so far earned Gladstone a best-actress win from the New York Film Critics Circle and nominations from the Golden Globes and Critics Choice Awards, and major nods from the Screen Actors Guild and the Academy Awards are likely to come in the weeks ahead. In the run-up to those ceremonies, Gladstone has been a hotly pursued presence for round tables and events on both coasts, and she’s taken to those opportunities with such command — using her platform to amplify other Native voices and concerns — that you’d never know that she wasn’t used to this, or that for a long time, she was hesitant to engage with Hollywood at all.
“There’s a handful of people who love film that have been aware of my career for a while, but this has been like being shot out of a cannon,” Gladstone said, tracing the far-flung route that has led her to all those awards-show ballrooms. “My dad’s a boilermaker, my mom was a teacher. I was raised on a reservation, went to public school. It’s a very normal, sort of working-class upbringing in one way, and in another way, I’m just a rez girl.”
by Anonymous | reply 88 | January 6, 2024 12:33 PM |
Onscreen, Gladstone has the profile and indomitable presence of a 1940s film star. In person, when we met last month at a rooftop restaurant in Beverly Hills, Gladstone was more approachable but every bit as striking, with vivid brown eyes that her father once warned her were eminently readable. He said this mostly to dissuade her from telling lies, but he was right: When we feel for Mollie, it’s because of the fear and righteous indignation that Gladstone can convey in just a look.
She also has a wry sense of humor, glimpsed in some of the Scorsese film’s lighter moments, and an ability to punctuate her conversation topics and awards-season speeches with an impressive command of history and facts. “Lily is a big nerd wrapped up in this very giving, curious person,” said the director Erica Tremblay, whose film “Fancy Dance” starred Gladstone. “If you’re at a dinner party with Lily, you’re going to find yourself talking about physics and bumblebees — and when I say she’ll be talking about physics, she’ll be talking about some very specific theory that Lily will know the mechanics of inside and out.”
At an Elle event in December celebrating women in Hollywood, Gladstone was honored alongside the likes of Jennifer Lopez, America Ferrera and Jodie Foster, but she particularly sparked to meeting the academic Stacy L. Smith, whose University of Southern California think tank, the Annenberg Inclusion Initiative, had recently issued a report about Native American representation in Hollywood. After analyzing 1,600 films released from 2007 to 2022, Smith found that the amount of speaking roles for Native American actors was virtually nil, less than one quarter of 1 percent of all the roles cataloged.
A leading role like Gladstone’s in a film the size of “Killers” isn’t just unusual, it’s unprecedented, so much so that Smith subtitled her report, “The Lily Gladstone Effect.” Gladstone can hardly wrap her head around that recognition. “It’s the kind of paper that if I were a student now taking the same class, I would be citing in my studies,” she said.
by Anonymous | reply 89 | January 6, 2024 12:35 PM |
For DiCaprio, Gladstone has more than earned the plaudits. “To see her rise to this occasion and be somebody that’s so formidable as far as understanding the depth of her own industry and Native American history, it’s an incredible moment to be a part of,” he said in a phone call. “I’m just glad to be next to her.”
To tout his co-star, DiCaprio has been a willing participant in the sort of red-carpet photo opportunities and awards-season parties he’d normally eschew. “It’s insane,” Gladstone said. “It’s like I’m trotting this mythical creature around, out and about, and he’s doing so of his own volition.” The ante was upped even further when Gladstone learned that her favorite actress, Cate Blanchett, would conduct a Q. and A. with her after “Killers” screened in London. “I’m hugging myself right now, I know your readers can’t see that,” she told me.
Gladstone acknowledged that sometimes, the intensity of the awards-season spotlight can feel overwhelming. “I can’t speak from the heart if I’m not connected to what’s real about all this,” she said. In those moments, she endeavors to carry her community forward with her: “I know that all of this attention on me right now means so much more than just me.”
by Anonymous | reply 90 | January 6, 2024 12:35 PM |
In other words, don’t expect Gladstone to come out of this experience transformed into a demanding Hollywood diva, as so many have before her. She can’t be bowled over, onscreen or off.
“I’ve talked to a lot of people who know Lily Gladstone and have been friends with her for a long time and seen this journey, and she is so steadfast and so immovable in terms of her values and her core,” Tremblay said. “I think she’ll be exactly the same, but with fancier clothes.”
by Anonymous | reply 91 | January 6, 2024 12:36 PM |
The NYT story is more positive for her.
by Anonymous | reply 92 | January 6, 2024 12:46 PM |
Gladstone, based upon the NY Times article, seems grounded and likable, but I don't expect DL's bigots to be receptive to that.
When they go ignorant and indulge their desire to slur, they'll retreat behind "But this is the DL. It's what we do".
Dislike Gladstone, find her appeal a mystery, criticize her body size, I've no problem with that.
But don't expect to not be called out when you post just plain stupid shit.
by Anonymous | reply 93 | January 6, 2024 12:51 PM |
R83 Or a box office, cause the need for fat, native, actTHEMS is pretty tiny.
by Anonymous | reply 94 | January 6, 2024 1:16 PM |
R93 It's not bigoted, I'm sure no one would give a shit if she didn't pull that fucking navel gazing, I'm non binary, bullshit. That's why she's getting clowned on here, oh and because she's fat.
by Anonymous | reply 95 | January 6, 2024 1:17 PM |
[quote] I think a lot of this behavior is driven by a maddening kind of social anxiety. Imagine being quite young and mostly liberal leaning in your instincts - you have to perform this shit or you're toast.
She’s 37.
by Anonymous | reply 96 | January 6, 2024 1:18 PM |
R93 is a stereotype.
by Anonymous | reply 97 | January 6, 2024 1:18 PM |
Bring back mental institutions.
by Anonymous | reply 98 | January 6, 2024 1:18 PM |
[quote]For a long time, she’d kept her distance from the industry.
A nice way of saying “couldn’t get hired.”
by Anonymous | reply 99 | January 6, 2024 2:12 PM |
[quote]Gladstone is its center of gravity: Even when she shares scenes with A-listers like DiCaprio and De Niro, the film bends to her.
That's an unfortunate thing to say about a big girl.
by Anonymous | reply 100 | January 6, 2024 2:13 PM |
"For a long time, she’d kept her distance from the industry." Oh please. LOL. It was mutual!
by Anonymous | reply 101 | January 6, 2024 2:50 PM |
I admired her and her performance in the movie and now Datalounge + a couple of interviews and I'm cackling with the rest of you bitches.
by Anonymous | reply 102 | January 6, 2024 3:09 PM |
Same, R102. I really wanted her to win the Oscar but now I fear her becoming even more insufferable.
by Anonymous | reply 103 | January 6, 2024 3:16 PM |
Yikes to Lily being "sparked" to meet Stacy L. Smith, the academic behind the Annenberg Inclusion Initiative. No kidding that Native American representation in movies were less than one quarter of one percent. Stacy Smith has certainly found her niche to become a Hollywood player - not a fan of hers. I hope Lily finds some other role models in the industry.
by Anonymous | reply 104 | January 6, 2024 3:24 PM |
They're quite hefty.
by Anonymous | reply 105 | January 6, 2024 3:26 PM |
I think she'll be fine. We do need a better native presence. She's asked to walk between humble seriousness and stardom. She's not totally against the fame. Which is fine. Not every actor would say everyone should a global-stage moment. Her saying she watched the Cannes clip 1000 times..guess that's like.. "I can't believe it's me."
[quote] “I think people root for folks that come up from the grass roots having this global-stage moment, this dream coming true,” she said. “That’s something that I wish on everybody at some point in their lives, in whatever form that takes, and also for Native people.”
by Anonymous | reply 106 | January 6, 2024 3:34 PM |
Her explanation actually makes sense to me.
by Anonymous | reply 107 | January 6, 2024 3:38 PM |
She's saying she wants everyone to experience fame because she's tasked with representing a community but it's also internet culture of believing in fame accessibility.
by Anonymous | reply 108 | January 6, 2024 3:40 PM |
[quote]Before Columbo discovered America the native Indians has no understanding of sex.
Yeah, well, Native Americans were still prehistoric (i.e., no written language) until the Europeans began arriving at the turn of the 16th century.
by Anonymous | reply 109 | January 6, 2024 3:42 PM |
Straight women LOVE "she/they", it gives them such specialness!
Pure GIBBERISH!
by Anonymous | reply 110 | January 6, 2024 6:07 PM |
[quote]Actress is now politically incorrect. Even Wikipedia won’t allow it. Everyone is an actor. SAG made a big deal about this with all the female actresses saying that they were actors. What a bore.
The trannies ALL go by "actress" because they have dicks!
by Anonymous | reply 111 | January 6, 2024 6:10 PM |
Her Indigenous roots and the use of decolonization are what make her statement sound idiotic offhand
HOWEVER, if she - as both a Native American and also a woman - views the PATRIARCHY as the colonizer (what Barbie taught us)
Then her statement makes sense. The patriarchy is very much its own way a colonializing force on women, even deciding what to call them - MAN vs WO-MAN, MALE vs FE-MALE. Much like the all the words used to refer to the aboriginal people of the Americas themselves - from Indian to Native American to Indigenous to First Nations - are not their own words. Even America is not their word. It's named for an Italian.
by Anonymous | reply 112 | January 6, 2024 6:18 PM |
More attention seeking bullshit
by Anonymous | reply 113 | January 6, 2024 6:22 PM |
She'll be forgotten after this awards season
by Anonymous | reply 114 | January 6, 2024 6:22 PM |
This actually makes me wonder if she's on the Spectrum. That's how we think. It would explain her blunt, obtuse behavior as well.
An isolated population (the decimated indigenous peoples of North America, rounded up into reservations and procreating over two centuries) would also likely produce more cases of autism.
by Anonymous | reply 115 | January 6, 2024 6:23 PM |
Nobody ever heard of her, and nobody will remember anything about her.
by Anonymous | reply 116 | January 6, 2024 9:40 PM |
She seems tiresome.
by Anonymous | reply 117 | January 6, 2024 9:54 PM |
Transcribing continued from R91
AS A CHILD growing up on the Blackfeet Reservation in northwestern Montana, there was one week that Gladstone looked forward to all year, when the Missoula Children’s Theater would roll up in a little red truck, construct a set out of P.V.C. pipes and cloth backdrops, and cast local kids in a production that the whole community would come out to see at the end of the week. “I was bullied a lot when I was a kid, partly because I was just goofy,” Gladstone said. “But that one week a year is when I was cool.”
In the group’s production of “Cinderella,” the young Gladstone decided to play her ugly stepsister as if she were Roseanne Barr, studying how to walk and talk like the comedian. It was a lightning-strike moment when she realized that a little bit of craft could go a long way.
“Somebody picked up on that in the audience and said, ‘She’s funnier than Roseanne,’” Gladstone said. “And my parents reminded me that somebody there from our community said, ‘We’re going to see her at the Oscars one day,’ just from that.”
Performing has always been Gladstone’s true north, the place to which her inner compass is most attuned. She remembers watching “Return of the Jedi” at 5 and feeling such a strong desire to be an Ewok that she knew someday, she’d be on the other side of the screen. Similarly obsessed with “The Nutcracker,” Gladstone signed up for ballet, which she assumed would be the big performative outlet in her life until the body shaming became too tough to take: “Not just weight, but things like, ‘Your middle toe is too long,’” she said. “I’m like, ‘Hey, my grandma gave me that middle toe!’”
But even in ballet class, instructors told her she was a natural-born actress, less concerned with nailing movements than with communicating a character. In her teenage years, when Gladstone’s family moved from Montana to the sometimes alienating suburbs of Seattle, she plunged fully into performance, acting in off-campus plays and auditioning for independent films. During her senior year, fellow students voted her “Most Likely to Win an Oscar.” They could already tell that acting was something she lived and breathed.
“It gave me an identity when my identity was forming and reforming,” she said. “Being known as an actress felt good even when I wasn’t working, even before I got my SAG card, when people asked what I did: ‘Yeah, I’m working at Staples right now, but I’m an actress.’”
by Anonymous | reply 118 | January 7, 2024 12:35 AM |
In her 20s, many of Gladstone’s actor friends moved to New York or Los Angeles, but she was reluctant to follow suit. “I knew if I came to L.A. and was doing audition after audition, it would be really difficult for me,” she said. “And I knew how easily my love of ballet had been shot down by these boxes that I couldn’t fit in, so I was like, ‘I’m going to protect this a little bit.’”
The boxes in Hollywood can be pernicious, and Gladstone is still wary of them. “I know myself and I know I’m difficult to cast,” she said. “I’m kind of ‘mid’ in a lot of ways.” Gladstone hastened to add that she didn’t mean “mid” like meh, dismissively as Gen Z uses it. Instead, she meant the word quite literally. She is in-between, hard to place, neither this nor that. Part of it is that she’s mixed-race: Her father is Blackfeet and Nez Perce, her mother white. But there is another part, too.
“It’s kind of being middle-gendered, I guess,” said Gladstone, who uses both “she” and “they” pronouns. “I’ve always known I’m comfortable claiming being a woman, but I never feel more than when I’m in a group of all women that I’m not fully this either.”
by Anonymous | reply 119 | January 7, 2024 12:36 AM |
She recalled a heartfelt moment at Elle’s Women in Hollywood event when Jodie Foster told the nonbinary “The Last of Us” actor Bella Ramsey that the room was full of supportive sisters. “That’s wonderful and that’s true,” Gladstone said, but afterward she went up to Ramsey to “introduce myself and let them know, ‘You also have siblings here, too.’”
Instead of moving to Hollywood, where she might have been prodded into walking a narrower path, Gladstone spent her postgraduate years in Montana, doing theater and renting out basements with like-minded performers just to make something. Working in independent films and Native-centric productions allowed her to qualify for the Screen Actors Guild without ever having to move her home base, and a breakthrough role in Kelly Reichardt’s 2016 indie “Certain Women” raised her profile considerably. Still, the mega-budgeted “Killers of the Flower Moon” represents a comparative quantum leap: Though Gladstone was unsure about coming to Hollywood, in the end, Hollywood came to her.
by Anonymous | reply 120 | January 7, 2024 12:37 AM |
It’s a heady thing to go from semi-known to perceived on a major scale, as Gladstone found out during the film’s mammoth Cannes Film Festival premiere in May, when photos of her walking the red carpet with DiCaprio were beamed all over the world. But the actual premiere of “Killers” in October provided an unexpected respite, since the actors’ strike at the time prevented Gladstone from promoting it.
A silver lining was the number of Osage people who instead spoke at the movie’s premiere, enjoying the sort of red-carpet moments that would have typically gone to the film’s striking actors. Watching them discuss and debate “Killers” reminded Gladstone that she was raised to listen to her elders, and the strike-imposed silence provided the perfect opportunity to collect her thoughts and reflect.
“There’s a level of ego that is wrapped up with being a public person speaking for other people, and a level of ego it takes being an actor, too,” she said. “So I think it was a real gift to be able to sit there and have another reminder that this is way bigger than me.”
She spent the film’s opening day on a picket line in Times Square, marching back and forth in the rain near the New York headquarters of Paramount Pictures, the studio that distributed “Killers” with Apple. “It was a little bit of my contrarian nature to choose Paramount that day,” Gladstone admitted with a grin. Later, while dining at an Italian restaurant in the city, a couple sitting next to her asked if she was Lily Gladstone from “Killers of the Flower Moon.” It was the first time she felt permission to own it.
“I was like, ‘Yes, I am. Today, I am Lily Gladstone.’” Months later, recounting the story, she was still beaming.
by Anonymous | reply 121 | January 7, 2024 12:38 AM |
IF GLADSTONE IS nominated for a best actress Academy Award on Jan. 23, she’ll be the first Native American contender in that category. With a win, she’d become the first Native performer to earn a competitive acting Oscar.
Still, it’s one thing for Hollywood to celebrate underrepresented actors, and a whole other thing to actually provide for them afterward. Academy members were moved to vote for recent winners like Troy Kotsur (“CODA”) and Ke Huy Quan (“Everything Everywhere All at Once”) in part because of their inspiring personal narratives, but follow-up projects on par with their winning films can be hard to come by. DiCaprio hopes that Gladstone’s breakthrough year will finally change things.
“I think she realizes that this really is a historical moment,” he said. “I know she has a plethora of other stories that she wants to tell, and I want her to be given those opportunities.”
Whatever this season has in store, Gladstone is ready to make the most of it. At a recent Academy Museum gala, the Oscar-winning actress Jennifer Connelly asked to meet Gladstone and wondered whether the demands of campaigning had already run her ragged. Gladstone was surprised to find herself replying that so far, she was doing just fine: “Maybe it says something about me that I’m kind of enjoying all of this right now.”
The wider world appears invested in her success, too. After “Killers” received a standing ovation at Cannes, a clip of Gladstone’s moved reaction to the applause earned millions of views. Why does she think that video went viral, with so many excited commenters predicting the Oscar glory that now appears within reach?
by Anonymous | reply 122 | January 7, 2024 12:39 AM |
“I think people root for folks that come up from the grass roots having this global-stage moment, this dream coming true,” she said. “That’s something that I wish on everybody at some point in their lives, in whatever form that takes, and also for Native people.”
Gladstone confessed that she had watched the Cannes clip “about a thousand times” since the premiere: “It’s a moment of transcendence that was wonderful to have captured.” But the moment was about more than just her own time in the spotlight: She recalled the way her Native co-star William Belleau let out a whooping war cry during the ovation and how the applause for the women playing her sisters — Cara Jade Myers, JaNae Collins and Jillian Dion — prompted Gladstone to let out a trilling lele. It wasn’t just a celebration. It was a release.
“Whatever that oppressive system is that sometimes develops with colonial governments, that moment of transcendence for all of us, those are the healing moments,” Gladstone said. “Those are the ones that show people very clearly that we’re still here and we’re excellent. We’ve survived and we’re just soaring now.”
by Anonymous | reply 123 | January 7, 2024 12:39 AM |
R118 R119 R120 Ugh, yeah she's the worst. If you're wanting to be an actress, you're a fucking woman. The reason you feel less than in a group of women is because you are fat and insecure, not cause you're not a woman. You aren't better than woman, like you're too goddamn great to wear that title but other women aren't? And to fucking act like Jodi Foster misspoke for welcoming a fellow female actor as a sister, and to then go and correct that...just fuck off. You're more exhausting than Roxane Gay, who I think, at least knows she's a chick.
by Anonymous | reply 124 | January 7, 2024 1:17 PM |