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Boys in the Boat

Why isn't it being considered for an Oscar?

Seems pretty Oscar Bait-ish to me.

Is it because of the lack of diversity?

Not sure, but It actually does look like it doesn't fall into the new Academy rules about having a certain amount of diversity, in order to be considered for an Academy Award.

If that's true, then it really sucks.

This movie deserves to be considered for an Academy Award, just like any other film.

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by Anonymousreply 81July 9, 2024 9:42 PM

Has it occurred to you that the movie might suck?

by Anonymousreply 1December 22, 2023 7:18 PM

[quote] Has it occurred to you that the movie might suck?

There is no way this movie sucks more than that PINK DOG SHIT BARBIE movie.

No fucking way!

by Anonymousreply 2December 22, 2023 7:24 PM

OP is an idiot. Also, there's already been a fairly recent doc about these guys---not such a novel topic.

by Anonymousreply 3December 22, 2023 7:25 PM

I guarantee this movie doesn't meet the new bullshit AMPAS "standards for representation and inclusion"


For the 96th Oscars (2024), a film must meet TWO out of FOUR of the following standards to be deemed eligible:

STANDARD A: ON-SCREEN REPRESENTATION, THEMES AND NARRATIVES To achieve Standard A, the film must meet ONE of the following criteria:

A1. Lead or significant supporting actors

At least one of the lead actors or significant supporting actors is from an underrepresented racial or ethnic group.

Asian, Hispanic/Latinx, Black/African American, Indigenous/Native American/Alaskan Native, Middle Eastern/North African, Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander, Other underrepresented race or ethnicity.

A2. General ensemble cast

At least 30% of all actors in secondary and more minor roles are from at least two of the following underrepresented groups:

Women, Racial or ethnic group, LGBTQ+, People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing

A3. Main storyline/subject matter

The main storyline(s), theme or narrative of the film is centered on an underrepresented group(s).

STANDARD B: CREATIVE LEADERSHIP AND PROJECT TEAM To achieve Standard B, the film must meet ONE of the criteria below:

B1. Creative leadership and department heads

At least two of the following creative leadership positions and department heads—Casting Director, Cinematographer, Composer, Costume Designer, Director, Editor, Hairstylist, Makeup Artist, Producer, Production Designer, Set Decorator, Sound, VFX Supervisor, Writer—are from the following underrepresented groups:

Women, Racial or ethnic group, LGBTQ+, People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing

At least one of those positions must belong to the following underrepresented racial or ethnic group:

Asian, Hispanic/Latinx, Black/African American, Indigenous/Native American/Alaskan Native, Middle Eastern/North African, Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander, Other underrepresented race or ethnicity

B2. Other key roles

At least six other crew/team and technical positions (excluding Production Assistants) are from an underrepresented racial or ethnic group.

B3. Overall crew composition At least 30% of the film’s crew is from the following underrepresented groups.

STANDARD C: INDUSTRY ACCESS AND OPPORTUNITIES To achieve Standard C, the film must meet BOTH criteria below:

C1. Paid apprenticeship and internship opportunities

The film’s distribution or financing company has paid apprenticeships or internships that are from the following underrepresented groups and satisfy the criteria below:

Women, Racial or ethnic group, LGBTQ+, People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing

The major studios/distributors are required to have substantive, ongoing paid apprenticeships/internships inclusive of underrepresented groups in most of the following departments: production/development, physical production, post-production, music, VFX, acquisitions, business affairs, distribution, marketing and publicity.

C2. Training opportunities and skills development (crew)

The film’s production, distribution and/or financing company offers training and/or work opportunities for below-the-line skill development to people from the underrepresented groups.

STANDARD D: AUDIENCE DEVELOPMENT To achieve Standard D, the film must meet the criterion below:

D1. Representation in marketing, publicity, and distribution

The studio and/or film company has multiple in-house senior executives from among the following underrepresented groups (must include individuals from underrepresented racial or ethnic groups) on their marketing, publicity, and/or distribution teams.

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by Anonymousreply 4December 22, 2023 7:46 PM

Gotta love George Clooney.

He always knows where to find the boys AND the booze!

This is a cast chock-full of hot guys!!

I wonder how many of them were on the Clooney casting couch?

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by Anonymousreply 5December 22, 2023 7:56 PM

This movie is so formulaic. Well done (Alexandre Desplat score, etc.), but formulaic. Not sure what Clooney's angle was with this.

by Anonymousreply 6December 26, 2023 8:32 PM

[quote] Not sure what Clooney's angle was with this.

To make a movie with hot young guys, and hopefully hook up with a few of them.

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by Anonymousreply 7December 26, 2023 8:52 PM

Georgie had his pick of these hot guys...

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by Anonymousreply 8December 26, 2023 8:56 PM

Who is the blond one?

by Anonymousreply 9December 26, 2023 9:16 PM

R8, I worked my way through all of them.

Jealous, bitches?

by Anonymousreply 10December 26, 2023 9:20 PM

Where are the hot guys? I don't see any in r7's pic.

by Anonymousreply 11December 26, 2023 9:50 PM

Those new AMPAS rules are total bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 12December 26, 2023 10:15 PM

People still pay attention to Academy Awards?

by Anonymousreply 13December 26, 2023 10:46 PM

Is it a documentary based on his life in Lake Como?

by Anonymousreply 14December 26, 2023 10:51 PM

R12 Ridiculous. You’d have to go out of your way to NOT meet the AMPAS standards.

by Anonymousreply 15December 26, 2023 11:23 PM

OP, just let George enjoy his life with sweaty, muscular twinks. His wife and twins must be exhausting.

by Anonymousreply 16December 26, 2023 11:24 PM

The movie is fine. It was my mother's pick for Christmas night movie, and that should tell you everything right there. It's a movie for your mom. The score is nice, and there are some nicely composed scenes. Nice. Nice. Nice.

I did notice two quick shots of black women in the audience during the regattas. Very pointed shots of them, probably to pass the Academy test. They were blatant enough that we all noticed.

Also, Mom's first choice was "The Color Purple.". Unfortunately, every showing in town was 100% booked the day before Christmas Eve. Should be as good start.

by Anonymousreply 17December 26, 2023 11:40 PM

[quote] Is it a documentary based on his life in Lake Como?

Jealous, bitches?

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by Anonymousreply 18December 27, 2023 12:10 AM

r15 mandates are the enemy of art and creativity.

by Anonymousreply 19December 27, 2023 12:24 AM

Looking forward to seeing this in the movie theater next weekend.

by Anonymousreply 20December 27, 2023 12:29 AM

It should be in Oscar contention, and NOT that fucking Barbie movie.

by Anonymousreply 21December 27, 2023 12:31 AM

R4 These rules set a very low bar, which most films are meeting anyway. Just hiring a bunch of White women would be sufficient.

by Anonymousreply 22December 27, 2023 12:34 AM

Starring the adorable Callum Turner.

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by Anonymousreply 23December 27, 2023 1:36 AM

R23 George has good taste in men.

by Anonymousreply 24December 27, 2023 2:03 AM

Is there any male nudity, R17?

by Anonymousreply 25December 27, 2023 2:24 AM

Jack Mulhern reminds me a young Josh Hartnett.

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by Anonymousreply 26December 27, 2023 2:28 AM

Luke Slattery is the hottest guy in the cast.

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by Anonymousreply 27December 27, 2023 2:29 AM

We want to see what the Nazi rowers look like

by Anonymousreply 28December 27, 2023 2:35 AM

Callum Turner would be hotter if they hadn't dyed his hair Crayola Yellow-Orange.

by Anonymousreply 29December 27, 2023 2:47 AM

For sure, R29.

But with darker hair, Callum reminds me a lot of Barry Keoghan or Eddie Redmayne.

The blond hair makes him stand out. Maybe just not SO blond.

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by Anonymousreply 30December 27, 2023 2:50 AM

In this photo, Callum could easily pass for Barry Keoghan.

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by Anonymousreply 31December 27, 2023 2:51 AM

"mandates are the enemy of art and creativity."

The conservatives complaining about the Academy rules are the same ones trying to ban any book they don't like. Go away, conservatives

by Anonymousreply 32December 27, 2023 2:54 AM

r32 I'm a liberal and think both the extreme left and extreme right are fucked up. You don't have to be a conservative to be opposed to any mandates regarding creative expression.

by Anonymousreply 33December 27, 2023 2:59 AM

Americans have become so tunnel-visioned re: left vs. right that it's become impossible to have a reasonable discussion or debate with them.

by Anonymousreply 34December 27, 2023 2:59 AM

R33- there is no mandate for creative expression. There’s a mandate for winning an award. You shouldn’t be making a movie to win an award in the first place so it should be moot what AMPAS requires.

by Anonymousreply 35December 27, 2023 3:06 AM

r35 any mandate in the arts is the enemy of art. Now take your little Stalinist ass and STFU.

by Anonymousreply 36December 27, 2023 3:08 AM

[quote] You shouldn’t be making a movie to win an award in the first place

And if my aunt had a dick she would be my uncle. That ain't how the movie business works, dear.

by Anonymousreply 37December 27, 2023 3:11 AM

[quote] there is no mandate for creative expression. There’s a mandate for winning an award

Same difference, dumbass!!!

How can you not see that, unless you're a completely blind and willful idiot???

Some of the best movies ever made in the past 100 years, would NEVER have made it past the Academy's new WOKE litmus test, and that's just total bullshit.

These kinds of rules DO stifle artistic creativity, my placing restrictions on what can and cannot be done, in terms of your ability to be recognized for achievement in your field.

Do athletes have to be a certain color to win an award?

NO. Because that would be ridiculous.

Just like these stupid fucking Academy rules are ridiculous.

by Anonymousreply 38December 27, 2023 3:16 AM

Just saw it. It’s so over the top cliched it’s almost worth watching to laugh at each one. If this wasn’t written by an AI program fed every corny sports movie in history to regurgitate, I’d be very surprised.

by Anonymousreply 39December 27, 2023 3:16 AM

It's SUPPOSED to be a feel good movie, R39.


by Anonymousreply 40December 27, 2023 3:19 AM

Callum looks better as a blond than with his natural color. With dark hair he looks like every other male starlet. But then I have a thing for blonds.

by Anonymousreply 41December 27, 2023 3:20 AM

R13 = Bradley Cooper

by Anonymousreply 42December 27, 2023 3:22 AM

[quote]Why isn't it being considered for an Oscar? Seems pretty Oscar Bait-ish to me.

With a 58% RT score? I think not. We also already have WAY too much superior Oscar bait: "Oppenheimer" is the hands-down Oscar-bait winner – and even months in advance I can tell you RDJ will be shortlisted for Best Supporting Actor – and a Scorsese/DiCaprio twofer is Oscar bait by default. "Maestro" could prove to be strong Oscar-bait competition as well, and since the Academy seems to automatically hand out Oscars to actors who sport facial prosthetics – e.g. Gary Oldman as Churchill in "The Darkest Hour," Nicole Kidman as Virginia Woolf in "The Hours," etc. – DL fave Bradley Cooper is a likely frontrunner for Best Actor, particularly having lost NINE Oscar noms now.

"Saltburn" and its quirkiness could prove popular with the Academy, and while I know you cunts despise anything adored by straight women, "Barbie" could ABSOLUTELY sweep the major awards. ("Everything Everywhere...." was considerably more odd than "Barbie" but won everything anyway.) "Past Lives" and "Poor Things" are also all-but-certain nominees. Ditto "The Holdovers," and Da'Vine Joy Randolph is already a lock for a Best Actress nom.

I'm sure George's boys in the boat are all very pretty, and I'm also sure I'll watch the movie for that reason alone, but I wouldn't hold my breath for an Oscar nom. (Meaning ANY Oscar nom.)

by Anonymousreply 43December 27, 2023 3:25 AM

[quote]DL fave Bradley Cooper is a likely frontrunner for Best Actor, particularly having lost NINE Oscar noms now.

R43, you are *adorable*! Glenn's an eight-time Oscar loser, and I think we all know what will happen if she's nominated yet again.

Never assume, dear.

by Anonymousreply 44December 27, 2023 3:26 AM

That M shit is never funny.

by Anonymousreply 45December 27, 2023 3:28 AM

The Academy will prove itself completely out of touch - ONCE AGAIN - by nominating Dog Shit Barbie over Boys in the Boat.

Boys in the Boat is a quality movie of substance.

Barbie is nothing but Dog Vomit.

Naturally, the Academy voters will go with Barbie.

by Anonymousreply 46December 27, 2023 3:29 AM

It's like a remake of Chariots of Fire, I expect.

by Anonymousreply 47December 27, 2023 3:29 AM

I love it, R45.

Speak for yourself.

It's a time-honored Datalounge tradition.

by Anonymousreply 48December 27, 2023 3:29 AM

[quote]Boys in the Boat is a quality movie of substance.

The critics beg to differ, and I think we both know what your opposite reaction would be if it was an otherwise identical movie called "The Girls in the Boat," featuring numerous comely young lasses.

by Anonymousreply 49December 27, 2023 4:07 AM

[quote] Boys in the Boat is a quality movie of substance.

It is fluff and Clooney intended for it to be a throwback, feel-good piece of fluff!

No nudity, r25! Criminal!

by Anonymousreply 50December 27, 2023 4:08 AM

[quote] No nudity, R25! Criminal!

Well, not on camera.

Behind the scenes is a different story.

by Anonymousreply 51December 27, 2023 10:16 AM

The Boys in the Boat is a dumb title.

They should have named it something else, like "The Coxswain takes all the Boys in the Boat at the same time" or "Bareback Boys in a Boat."

You know? Something exciting like that.

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by Anonymousreply 52December 27, 2023 10:51 AM

More Boys in a Boat.

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by Anonymousreply 53December 27, 2023 10:55 AM

Is it as boring as it sounds?

by Anonymousreply 54December 27, 2023 12:00 PM

Not as boring as Barbie.

by Anonymousreply 55December 27, 2023 3:43 PM

Opening scene...

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by Anonymousreply 56December 27, 2023 4:56 PM

R29 He is portraying Joe Rantz, a blond, who was the principal rower from the book the story is based on. Author of the book, Daniel James Brown, was a neighbor who was intrigues by his story and initially wrote the book about his story of being in the rowing team that made it to the1936 Berlin Olympics and won. Joe Rantz however did not want the book to be about him, he insisted it be about the men on the team, as he believed in the team work it took for the rowers to succeed. Joe Rantz's daughter read him one of the final drafts of the book just before he died in 2007 at age 93. The book was finally published in 2013.

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by Anonymousreply 57December 28, 2023 12:13 AM

Not boring at all. I was fully prepared for it to be deadly dull, but it wasn’t. Cliches? Yeah, but it’s a feel-good movie and I loved it. Probably not going to win any awards, but it’s a great way to spend two hours. The boys are hot.

The top critics on Rotton Tomatoes gave it 64%, while all critics gave it a 58%. Interesting, the verified audience members give it a 97%.

by Anonymousreply 58December 28, 2023 5:46 AM

[quote] The top critics on Rotton Tomatoes gave it 64%, while all critics gave it a 58%. Interesting, the verified audience members give it a 97%.

Proof that the critics are bought and paid for by studios.

Now you know why Barbie is "critically acclaimed." It's meaningless bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 59December 28, 2023 5:48 AM

Were they really "underdogs"? It seems to me in 1936 they were relatively privileged compared to competitors from other nations.

by Anonymousreply 60December 28, 2023 5:56 AM

This just seems so weird. In a lot of ways it's like A Leave Of Their Own, which was about a smart businessman who sponsored a low-cost, fun sport that generally boosted community morale during WWII. This movie is about a man with enough cash to recruit, support, and strengthen an entire team of desperate bohunks who are participating in a much less popular sport. Rowing is great, but this guy really HAD to create and sponsor this independent rowing team during a time of impoverishment for many? It's just a very "MAN WANT THING, MAN DO THING!" mentality. It's masochistic and frivolous.

by Anonymousreply 61December 28, 2023 6:19 AM

Well take our leave of this thread.

by Anonymousreply 62December 28, 2023 9:26 AM

I saw the movie last night and I understand how others have said the film seems formulaic... there's always an obstacle in the way of Olympic glory and then there's an inevitable triumph.

The kicker is, if you've read the book, all of those obstacles did exist. Life really was awful in the pacific northwest during the Depression; college was a way out, but you had to pay, which was difficult.

Joe Rance's life was even more miserable than presented... and the Rance family was more complicted. Yes, he (and others) did go hungry.

The east coast/west coast rivalry really did exist, so did the rivalry between California and Washington.

And yes, rowing was a much bigger sport. Large crowds, live broadcasts, newspaper reporters? Yep.

So, a JV team from U of Washington making its way across America to compete in Poughkeepsie NY and beating the Ivy League schools? Huge in the sport.

Traveling acrosss the Atlantic to compete in Berlin, 1936? Huge for the school, rowers and the coaching staff.

Beating the Germans in the men's 8 given their lane location and slow start and health problems of a teammate (yes, that too really did happen as well)? Again, huge.

The book is excellent, worth a read. I think the story really needed a 4-hour TV treatment, using the first hour or so the tie to show how lousy life was for Rance and other rowers... and maybe, creating some kind of contrast with the better funded California and Ivy League squads.

by Anonymousreply 63December 28, 2023 10:34 AM

[quote] Well take our leave of this thread.

Oh, dear!

by Anonymousreply 64December 28, 2023 12:37 PM

You see, R63.

This movie IS Oscar-worthy.

It sounds like an amazing story that I wish more people would see.

And it's certainly better than Barbie.

So why isn't it in Oscar contention???

by Anonymousreply 65December 28, 2023 12:38 PM

[quote] Oh, dear!

A well-deserved “Oh, dear”. I’ll take it with grace and humility.

by Anonymousreply 66December 28, 2023 3:26 PM

Dudes we're gonna kick Hitler's ass in the Olympics!

You feelin' me?


Off to Berlin baby! We gonna tear shit the fuck UP! Fuck you Hitler and all you mothafuckin' Nazi ass mothafuckas!


by Anonymousreply 67December 28, 2023 6:15 PM

The Depresrsion was in the east and in Europe too. It was much worse in Germany than the US

by Anonymousreply 68December 29, 2023 1:12 PM

Boys in the George's Hole..

by Anonymousreply 69December 29, 2023 4:34 PM

The diversity mandates don’t apply to films in general, they apply to award nominated films.

And if making movies is about winning awards then it’s no longer about creativity and art. Or never was.

This movie looks like cliched shit, mandates or not. Clooney was making shit films long before the Oscar academy required diversity quotas.

by Anonymousreply 70December 29, 2023 5:23 PM

Great feel-good movie, but almost no shirtlessness, let alone nudity.

by Anonymousreply 71December 31, 2023 2:18 AM

I can't believe that George Clooney passed on an opportunity to ogle hot young guys, R71.

Sounds like he's getting shy in his old age.

by Anonymousreply 72December 31, 2023 2:22 AM

Boys In The Band In The Boat.

by Anonymousreply 73December 31, 2023 2:22 AM

Boys In The Band Barebacking In The Boat.

by Anonymousreply 74December 31, 2023 2:26 AM

[quote]Luke Slattery is the hottest guy in the cast.

Not into twinks. The hottest guys were DL fave James Wolk and Chris Diamontoupoulos.

by Anonymousreply 75January 3, 2024 7:36 PM

James Wolk is aging very nicely.

One of the nice things in the movie was how great the men looked in the suits and overcoats. the costumer did a fine job.

by Anonymousreply 76January 3, 2024 9:10 PM

Hey guys... if you want to learn more about the rowers, the documentary, The Boys of '36, from American Experience on PBS is on this evening, 07/09/24 at 9pn ET.

If you only know the movie, haven't read the book, this is an excellent piece of storytelling.

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by Anonymousreply 77July 9, 2024 8:56 PM

Thanks for the heads up. The book The Boys In The Boat by Daniel James Brown was excellent. While I liked last years movie, the story itself was condensed as expected. To do the book justice would have required at least a 6 hours miniseries. I have only seen excerpts from the documentary so this is an opportunity to see the whole thing.

by Anonymousreply 78July 9, 2024 9:05 PM

I tried to watch it but it just sucked. Beautifully filmed and the cast of course was beautiful but it was so Hallmark Channel.

by Anonymousreply 79July 9, 2024 9:06 PM

R79, hope you're referring to the Clooney film. That is NOT the PBS documentary. If you questioned Joe Rance's life as shown in the movie, watch tonight - his life was worse! He's quite a man - really (and he was hot too!).

by Anonymousreply 80July 9, 2024 9:16 PM

I was referring to the movie. I almost bought the book a few times before even knowing there was going to be a movie. It's just that I have enough on my Kindle where I'll need at least 86 years to finish it all so I'm resisting buying anymore books. There was about five of us in the room watching and at about 25% of the way through we all looked at each other and rolled our eyes. Much like the Elvis movie. I really wanted to like it but it just wasn't good. It was beautiful to look at but dull. It's also funny I live in CT right on the Farmington river. A few school rowing teams practice on the river. It sounds silly but it really is a beautiful thing to watch them go down the river. They are so in sync with each other. Yeah though, it's been a long time since I've wanted to like a movie as much as this one. I kept my mouth shout while it was running though in case others were seeing something in it.

by Anonymousreply 81July 9, 2024 9:42 PM
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