Those two just never could get along.
Shannen Doherty- “Alyssa Milano RUINED my relationship with Holly Marie Combs!”
by Anonymous | reply 146 | December 23, 2023 11:19 AM |
Doesn't Shannon have more important things to focus on these days?
by Anonymous | reply 1 | December 11, 2023 10:49 PM |
Milano may have been far from perfect, but Shannen's cunt cred started way back when she was on Little House on the Prairie.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | December 11, 2023 10:59 PM |
Alyssa was the bigger instigator.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | December 11, 2023 11:00 PM |
Girls, girls, you’re both cunts!
by Anonymous | reply 4 | December 11, 2023 11:05 PM |
Holly Marie kind of says that R4, but in a nicer way. And she includes herself. It seems Shannen is the one who can’t move on, and maybe it’s out of her own guilt that she’s weirdly projecting on others.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | December 11, 2023 11:11 PM |
She’s still alive?
by Anonymous | reply 6 | December 11, 2023 11:15 PM |
For God's sake, just DIE already!!!
by Anonymous | reply 7 | December 11, 2023 11:17 PM |
Let’s see…Shannen feuded with Alyssa Milano, Jennie Garth, Tori Spelling, Rose McGowan…seems to be a her problem!
by Anonymous | reply 8 | December 11, 2023 11:21 PM |
She should be circling the drain. On instagram she said her cancer has spread to her bones and that she has brain mets. I don’t know anyone who lived long after cancer spread that way. Valerie Whatshername, notwithstanding.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | December 11, 2023 11:21 PM |
[quote] "I waited 24 hours after your surgery to go and then it wasn't even easy for me to get in. I was being told I couldn't even get in. Alyssa and her mom, they were blocking people from seeing you and at the time, you didn't know," Doherty claimed, saying that she even received a text from Holly asking if she was even going to visit her.
That's pretty messed up of Alyssa. And for what it's worth, Alyssa has admitted that she was responsible for a lot of the drama that went down between them.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | December 11, 2023 11:26 PM |
[quote] Doesn't Shannon have more important things to focus on these days?
Like what?
by Anonymous | reply 11 | December 11, 2023 11:36 PM |
Shannen is better at the acting thing than Alyssa.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | December 11, 2023 11:49 PM |
I guess Alyssa figured having released two pop albums in Japan made her a big deal.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | December 12, 2023 12:01 AM |
As she's circling the drain she's still going to settle up with her enemies. She knows she doesn't have much time. Let your cunt flag fly Shannen! Right into the grave!
by Anonymous | reply 14 | December 12, 2023 12:05 AM |
I find it amusing that the writers on Charmed found Shannen "difficult" because she would always provide a lot of input regarding what would and wouldn't work. Only for them to admit after she quit that they realized she was right!
by Anonymous | reply 15 | December 12, 2023 12:11 AM |
I didn’t know that Holly Marie created her own line of combs.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | December 12, 2023 12:14 AM |
[quote] Shannen is better at the acting thing than Alyssa.
That's like saying Eva Gabor was better at the acting thing than Zsa Zsa.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | December 12, 2023 12:16 AM |
R16 She did have the best hair.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | December 12, 2023 12:22 AM |
R17 Shannen was quite good at acting.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | December 12, 2023 12:22 AM |
Was Rose McGowan ever not a heinous cunt?
by Anonymous | reply 20 | December 12, 2023 12:29 AM |
Not with a Southern accent, she wasn't!
by Anonymous | reply 21 | December 12, 2023 12:30 AM |
Why not get it all out? Shannen has only a few weeks/months left. Settle all family business.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | December 12, 2023 12:34 AM |
Jimmy Carter will outlive her.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | December 12, 2023 12:36 AM |
[quote] [R17] Shannen was quite good at acting.
Yes, her performances as Racine's Andromaque at the Comédie-Française were truly unforgettable.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | December 12, 2023 12:42 AM |
I just adore Holly Marie Combs.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | December 12, 2023 12:53 AM |
R25 Same.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | December 12, 2023 1:35 AM |
I know she's evidently a class A bitch.
But I will feel very sad when Shannen leaves us.
She was Heather Duke, and her look up from Moby Dick in the opening credits was one of the few moments where gayling me felt an attraction to a woman.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | December 12, 2023 1:41 AM |
Well, at least the bitch didn't STEAL things. How pathetic would THAT be?!
by Anonymous | reply 28 | December 12, 2023 1:45 AM |
Shannen Doherty is a raging cunt. Die already republican bitch!
by Anonymous | reply 29 | December 12, 2023 3:40 AM |
Totally believable. Milano is a huge cunt.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | December 12, 2023 3:53 AM |
Mm mm.. Milano cookies are my morning vitamin!
by Anonymous | reply 31 | December 12, 2023 4:03 AM |
r14 I kinda love the idea of feuding and burning bridges and settling scores until the very end. The hardcore cunts don't do reconciliation.
by Anonymous | reply 32 | December 12, 2023 4:23 AM |
“ According to Doherty, the two also had competitiveness when it came to Combs, claiming Milano was "trying to pull you away from me" during the show's second season. At the time, Combs experienced a medical emergency -- revealing earlier this year she had a "rather large tumor in my uterus" removed in 1998 that required surgery.”
I had no idea about Holly’s tumor.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | December 12, 2023 4:26 AM |
[quote]I had no idea about Holly’s tumor.
Because she's an actress, not a publicity whore.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | December 12, 2023 9:22 AM |
[quote]Let’s see…Shannen feuded with Alyssa Milano, Jennie Garth, Tori Spelling, Rose McGowan…seems to be a her problem!
Shannen never feuded with Rose. Rose loves Shannen and loathes Alyssa.
by Anonymous | reply 35 | December 12, 2023 9:56 AM |
I can’t unsee Shannon’s severely misaligned face.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | December 12, 2023 10:49 AM |
Here’s the thing: it was a job.
People who fall out with friends, well, reconciliation can often be healing.
How many assholes and/or people we clashed with have most of us worked with over the years? Yeah, I’m not reaching out to move past our differences. You made my workdays shit.
by Anonymous | reply 37 | December 12, 2023 10:53 AM |
True, R37, but do you continue to go on about it 20-30 years later? That applies to both Doherty and Milano here. And Doherty is how many years later still dragging Combs into the middle of them. If I was Combs I’d just say you’re both assholes and never talk to or about them again. Combs, though, obviously has some dignity and grace - more than I’d have in this situation.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | December 12, 2023 11:27 AM |
R38 Nah, Milano doesn't "go on about it." Never brings it up unless she's asked about it. She's too busy getting people to vote and to get involved in politics. Doherty is the one who can't seem to let it go. Combs was done with it YEARS ago. She's simply helping Shannen with her podcast. I've seen Holly's eyes roll when being asked about it.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | December 12, 2023 12:38 PM |
Shannen Doherty is a a classic Borderline.
by Anonymous | reply 40 | December 12, 2023 12:51 PM |
R39 - so Milano didn’t just write a book and bring it up? Again, not saying one is more guilty than the other, but Milano is capitalizing on this “feud” as well. No one asked her to bring it up in her book.
by Anonymous | reply 41 | December 12, 2023 12:55 PM |
Wasn't the root cause of the problem, they both wanted the same guy and Alysa got him - which shouldn't be a shock to anyone.
by Anonymous | reply 42 | December 12, 2023 1:19 PM |
[quote] Because she's an actress, not a publicity whore.
I don't understand the distinction.
by Anonymous | reply 43 | December 12, 2023 1:25 PM |
Girls, girls… they’re all cunts.
by Anonymous | reply 44 | December 12, 2023 2:18 PM |
Shannen must be pretty bitter about now…
by Anonymous | reply 45 | December 12, 2023 2:25 PM |
Guys! Can I get a little fucking attention over here...please?!?
by Anonymous | reply 46 | December 12, 2023 2:42 PM |
Rose McGowan loathes Milano
by Anonymous | reply 47 | December 12, 2023 6:00 PM |
I listened to the actual podcast. Shannen isn't sitting around stewing over this more than 20 years later. The whole thing is her audio memoir, likely being recorded for posterity before she dies. She plans to talk about everything, the drama on Charmed, the drama on 90210, her divorces, her cancer, etc. This is just the first subject she got to. From hearing them both talk and from other things I've read, I gather the Charmed set was a total shit show from the top down and there was no one really in charge on the set. If anyone on here actually worked on the show, I'd love to hear what it was really like.
by Anonymous | reply 48 | December 12, 2023 7:19 PM |
R48, someone on DL has routinely said that Alyssa was a bitch to work with and Shannen could be too but that's more because she was stern and takes charge a lot. The writers said they thought she was a pain when she was on the show but that they realized that her choices/suggestions were correct.
by Anonymous | reply 49 | December 12, 2023 7:58 PM |
In the article :
" Alyssa Milano Won't Let Her Kids Watch Charmed Because She Kisses Too Many Guys That Aren't Their Dad "
Gee, I hope she doesn't let her children google her name then. 😂😂😂😂
by Anonymous | reply 50 | December 12, 2023 8:11 PM |
Fuck off R22, how do you know how long she is going to live?
Are you her doctor? Are you god?
Are you aware that some people survived some 25 years after their diagnosis?
by Anonymous | reply 51 | December 12, 2023 8:12 PM |
Wrong R15
I adore Shannen, but the studio was right actor SHOULDN'T have an input on their characters.
They are actors, not writers; the ego of an actor needs to tamed, not pampered.
Trust the writers and let them do their jobs, except when there are continuity mistakes.
by Anonymous | reply 52 | December 12, 2023 8:16 PM |
I had no idea Shannen was already upset with Alyssa during season 2 of the show and that she hated that period, I thought they began fighting once the producing of S3 began.
And I thought they didn't get along because one was a Republican and the other one a Democrat.
by Anonymous | reply 53 | December 12, 2023 8:20 PM |
Lol R48 Rose McGowan did claim she was once called a stupid bitch (or whore, can't remember the term) by a director in front of the whole crew and cast during season 7 or 8; and that it was one of her most humiliating life experiences as an actress.
by Anonymous | reply 54 | December 12, 2023 8:48 PM |
Supposedly Shannen was called a bitch by one of the wrestlers in the “wrestling with demons” episode, which got applause from the crew behind closed doors. So I imagine Shannen wasn’t so pleasant to work with even if she got along well with Holly.
In the podcast, Shannen and Holly both talk about wanting more input into the writing. But Holly also complains that all the scripts got a final polish by Brad Kern, which is why they all ended up sounding the same regardless of who wrote them. I think she’s dead wrong with this criticism. As a viewer, the scripts *should* sound the same. Otherwise you end up with an inconsistent mess on the screen.
by Anonymous | reply 55 | December 12, 2023 9:16 PM |
[quote]Rose McGowan did claim she was once called a stupid bitch (or whore, can't remember the term) by a director in front of the whole crew and cast during season 7 or 8; and that it was one of her most humiliating life experiences as an actress.
Wait, she didn’t get raped that day?
by Anonymous | reply 56 | December 12, 2023 9:25 PM |
R55 - you mean a Ryan Murphy production?
by Anonymous | reply 57 | December 12, 2023 9:32 PM |
[R48] The two hated each other. [R49] Then one specific incident I still don't see mentioned anywhere (not on recent podcasts, articles or books) and Shannen had to be off the show. They no longer could work together. Surprised all this recent attention back on this and all these years later the incident in question is still not discussed.
by Anonymous | reply 58 | December 12, 2023 9:52 PM |
[quote] I adore Shannen, but the studio was right actor SHOULDN'T have an input on their characters.
I find it amusing they admitted they were wrong not to take her feedback into account!
by Anonymous | reply 59 | December 12, 2023 10:17 PM |
R48 I didn’t work on Charmed but an old coworker did. The only story I remember is that Alyssa Milano apparently couldn’t keep her eyes off of Rose McGowan’s tits during scenes. She was either enamored or jealous. I did work with Shannen after Charmed. She’s smart and direct. I could see why she would get the bitch label but I don’t think it’s earned. She’s a true professional.
by Anonymous | reply 60 | December 12, 2023 10:18 PM |
Shannon's tits are slightly lopsided in OP's photo.
by Anonymous | reply 61 | December 12, 2023 10:25 PM |
Were they R59?
I mean, the studio stopped listening to her suggestions that the show should go "darker", she quit, then Rose Mcgowan came in and the show lasted another five years just fine.
I get it that season 6 was horrible and the show never fully recovered, but seasons 4 and 5 were perfectly fine, without Shannen's input.
And the Doherty years were actually my favorite, but actors shouldn't be given too much power or control over the script.
by Anonymous | reply 62 | December 12, 2023 10:39 PM |
Actors when just actors do not have a say over scripts. If they are given a producer credit they will have more of a say. If you notice as series go on and actors have been on a long time the smart ones ask and usually get nowadays a producer credit giving them more of a say in terms of what goes on. You can tell the level of input they will receive based on the level of producer they are.
by Anonymous | reply 63 | December 12, 2023 10:52 PM |
Shannen Doherty’s whole existence is lopsided .
by Anonymous | reply 64 | December 13, 2023 12:04 AM |
R63 - It depends on the show. Holly and Alyssa had gained producer status somewhere along the way.
by Anonymous | reply 65 | December 13, 2023 12:28 AM |
An article from 2001:
[quote] Something downright nasty has been percolating on the Charmed set--and I'm not talkin' bat wings or toad heads.
[quote] No, this witchy potion smacks of ingredients far more familiar to the world of Aaron Spelling: two divas, one script and a knock-down-drag-out catfight.
[quote] For months, there have been whisperings about tension between Shannen Doherty and Alyssa Milano, but until now, no one close to the show would confirm or deny. However, in the past few weeks, as the tension between this diva-ish duo has escalated into a witchy war vicious enough to put the future of the show in peril, the stench from the set is seeping out in full force.
[quote] Among the juiciest morsels: Alyssa is so fed up with Shannen's 'tude she has threatened to leave unless something changes. The producers are doing some serious ass-kissing, trying everything in their power to get their Charmed girl to stay.
[quote] See, the show's founding premise, "The Power of Three," demands that the three sisters work together to fight evil, which has painted the writers into an ugly corner. None of the girls can leave without the show crumbling.
[quote] Although Shannen and Alyssa have repeatedly requested as few scenes together as possible, the producers have no choice but to make the archenemies share the screen. And when they must, my sources say they show up, run through their lines and storm off.
[quote] Why such ugliness? Well, from what I hear, it all began with the show's very first publicity shots, where Shannen insisted on being placed in the center, or above the others, at all times. (One source close to the WB even hinted it was written into her contract.) It seems that while Alyssa and Holly Marie Combs were told it was an ensemble show, Shannen has claimed it as her own since day one.
[quote] Then there's the issue of wardrobe. Although all three girls wear fab threads, it's Shannen who gets the biggest chunk of the wardrobe budget, accepting nothing less than Prada, Dolce & Gabbana and the like. The wardrobe folks spend most of their time finding and reworking duds for the queen bee.
[quote] As for her royal 'tude, let's just say that during a recent taping of the "Wrestling with Demons" episode, one of the pro wrestlers ended up calling the witchy woman a bitch, which later--behind closed doors--garnered wild applause from the tongue-tied crew.
by Anonymous | reply 66 | December 13, 2023 2:06 AM |
[quote] Are you her doctor? Are you god?
And if you're the latter, can you make sure it doesn't rain tomorrow? I'm going out with friends for a hike.
by Anonymous | reply 67 | December 13, 2023 2:11 AM |
Holly’s fat.
by Anonymous | reply 68 | December 13, 2023 3:09 AM |
R68 - Holly was slim when she started. She gained some the first few seasons, but looked good. Then she got pregnant and gained more.
Picture from 2001, shortly after Shannen left.
by Anonymous | reply 69 | December 13, 2023 3:43 AM |
^ Another Shannon lopsided tit photo!!!
by Anonymous | reply 70 | December 13, 2023 4:24 AM |
" Although Shannen and Alyssa have repeatedly requested as few scenes together"
Lol!!!!!!!!! Bitches were almost 30, veteran actresses working since the 1980s and still didn't know the meaning of the word professionalism.
Apparently they also didn't know that making 1 million dollars per season their personal shit SHOULDN'T jeopardize the show and ruin it for the fans.
by Anonymous | reply 71 | December 13, 2023 5:12 AM |
R70 lol
by Anonymous | reply 72 | December 13, 2023 5:24 AM |
I had to fuck Harvey Weinstein for roles.
by Anonymous | reply 73 | December 13, 2023 6:21 AM |
Sad last minutes
by Anonymous | reply 74 | December 13, 2023 6:25 AM |
Is she dead yet?
by Anonymous | reply 75 | December 13, 2023 6:27 AM |
Soon
by Anonymous | reply 76 | December 13, 2023 6:47 AM |
Hmmm, isn’t it interesting how Shannen isn’t on good terms with a single former co-star? I wonder what the common denominator is.
by Anonymous | reply 77 | December 13, 2023 7:03 AM |
A million dollars per season? 50 grand per ep before paying your minions? That’s shit for name actresses
by Anonymous | reply 78 | December 13, 2023 7:04 AM |
[quote]Hmmm, isn’t it interesting how Shannen isn’t on good terms with a single former co-star?
Huh?
by Anonymous | reply 79 | December 13, 2023 9:48 AM |
R79 She was with Luke Perry as well.
by Anonymous | reply 80 | December 13, 2023 10:44 AM |
R41 Writing a book on your career and covering EVERYTHING that happened is not remotely the same as "going on about it". Milano was working for over a decade before Charmed. But you knew that already, right? Was the first chapter of her book "Me and Shannen didn't get along?"
by Anonymous | reply 81 | December 13, 2023 11:51 AM |
Brian Austin Green has nothing but good things to say about Shannen.
by Anonymous | reply 82 | December 13, 2023 12:40 PM |
R77, that isn't true at all. She is friends with Jennie Garth now, she is close with Hollie, and Jason Priestley.
by Anonymous | reply 83 | December 13, 2023 12:42 PM |
R83 idk that I would call her friends with Jennie Garth now. She recently did an interview where she said “saw” Jennie a while back. She made it seem like she was really only friendly with the boys now (BAG, IZ and JP) which incidentally was how it was back then as well. Some women just don’t play well with other women in the sandbox
by Anonymous | reply 84 | December 13, 2023 12:47 PM |
Saw this photo of Shannen in Star magazine or some such similar rag in the early 2000s. They said her tits occupied different zip codes. I'll never forget it.
by Anonymous | reply 85 | December 13, 2023 1:36 PM |
I wish her well. The only reason this is back out there is she wrote a book and has been asked these questions ---- again.
by Anonymous | reply 86 | December 13, 2023 2:50 PM |
Shannen seems bitchy, but Jennie Garth seems like a real cunt.
There’s a difference.
by Anonymous | reply 87 | December 13, 2023 5:04 PM |
R87 nails it.
by Anonymous | reply 88 | December 13, 2023 6:12 PM |
Shannen has tumors in her brain, and she’s going to be dead in a few months. Let her say whatever she wants, and may the other bitches get over it.
by Anonymous | reply 89 | December 13, 2023 6:55 PM |
The thing is Shannon has always known she's been a bit h and has copped to it. She even made of it when she hosted SNL.
by Anonymous | reply 90 | December 13, 2023 8:05 PM |
I hope she has Gabrielle Carteris on her podcast!
by Anonymous | reply 91 | December 13, 2023 8:26 PM |
R90 Yes!
by Anonymous | reply 92 | December 13, 2023 9:06 PM |
Let’s give her a pass now that she’s dying. I want to hear ALL THE TEA.
by Anonymous | reply 93 | December 13, 2023 9:22 PM |
Any Little House tea?
by Anonymous | reply 94 | December 13, 2023 9:33 PM |
R91 Gabrielle is 95 years old now.
by Anonymous | reply 95 | December 13, 2023 9:39 PM |
What’ll she and Gabrielle talk about - Werthers and reverse mortgages?
by Anonymous | reply 96 | December 13, 2023 10:04 PM |
^ Vaginal rejuvenation.
by Anonymous | reply 97 | December 13, 2023 10:06 PM |
I’m sure at this point Gabrielle needs vaginal rehydration, not rejuvenation.
by Anonymous | reply 98 | December 13, 2023 10:07 PM |
I've always wondered what holly marie combs.
by Anonymous | reply 99 | December 13, 2023 10:16 PM |
[quote]I've always wondered what holly marie combs.
She lived. She took up space.
by Anonymous | reply 100 | December 13, 2023 11:29 PM |
The second half of the interview is out now. Among the notable tidbits:
A mediator was hired due to the tension on the set. Alyssa spoke with him, but Shannen and Holly refused. Alyssa eventually gave producers an "it's her or me" ultimatum and threatened to sue for a hostile work environment. The network felt legally that they had to side with Alyssa because she had documented everything with the mediator.
Holly and Shannen both claim there weren't any major fights, just always lots of tension. There was jealousy over magazine covers, with Shannen having negotiated at the outset that she'd get a certain amount of solo coverage. There was also a pay disparity between Shannen and Alyssa, which producers tried smooth over by making side deals with Alyssa, which created its own set of jealousies. Alyssa and her mom were working on websites at the time and created sites for Holly and Shannen. Shannen had wanted her dad to build her website to keep him busy while he was dealing with health issues and asked them to please take hers down.
When Shannen was fired, Holly told producers she didn't want to continue with the show. They threatened to sue her and to garner wages from future jobs even if she was just bagging groceries. Holly asked them to at least let Shannen put out whatever statement she wanted about her departure.
Shannen had a pay or play deal, meaning she was entitled to be paid while the show ran even if she was no longer on it. She wanted to sue them to honor that deal, but her team thought her career wouldn't survive another public firing. Instead, they convinced her to put out a statement saying she'd quit. Shannen went along with it, but thought it was ridiculous that anyone would really believe she had quit a hit show.
Holly mentions that Brian Krause was dating Alyssa and was privy to everything she was doing behind the scenes to have Shannen ousted. He recently apologized to Holly for how difficult that time must have been for her.
by Anonymous | reply 101 | December 18, 2023 4:37 PM |
R101, someone who worked on Charmed has stated on DL that Alyssa was by far the bigger bitch of the two (between her and Shannen). It sounds like Alyssa was, in fact, a massive bitch.
by Anonymous | reply 102 | December 18, 2023 4:47 PM |
Alyssa and her mom used to team up to go after people posting Alyssa's nudes online from some Skinemax film she did.
by Anonymous | reply 103 | December 18, 2023 4:56 PM |
[quote]It sounds like Alyssa was, in fact, a massive bitch.
According to Armin Shimerman (one of THE nicest guys you will ever meet) they were all massive bitches.
But, in fairness, he guest starred during the McGowan years, not with Shannen.
by Anonymous | reply 104 | December 18, 2023 4:58 PM |
Listening to the podcast was interesting, but it was also very obviously one sided and little bit of revisionist history. Shannen repeatedly says how much she loved working on the show, but during the previous episode she said she cried every night of season 2. How much can you love a job that makes you cry every night? She also says Alyssa was upset about a very minor pay difference, but how minor could it have really been if producers felt obligated to compensate Alyssa with side deals? She also says that she and her team spoke with producers to tell them the side deals were "not okay" but doesn't say more than that. But I'm assuming she had her own jealousies and wanted a piece of whatever Alyssa was getting. She also says she wanted to sue to get them to honor the pay or play deal, but never actually says it wasn't honored, which makes me wonder if she ended up with a financial windfall in the end.
by Anonymous | reply 105 | December 18, 2023 5:13 PM |
Oh, Shannen also says they invited her to come back for the finale, but she declined.
by Anonymous | reply 106 | December 18, 2023 5:17 PM |
R104, that just proves Shannen was NOT the main problem. If she was the major driving force of conflict, you wouldn't have people like Armin saying they were all witches (Holly, Alyssa and Rose).
by Anonymous | reply 107 | December 18, 2023 5:45 PM |
I remember hearing after Shannen left that the set was still not a great place to work, but that it was much better. I'd love to hear Alyssa's side of things, though. For example, Shannen says that Alyssa documented everything that happened by speaking with the mediator and that Alyssa also threatened to sue. Objectively speaking, that means things were happening to Alyssa that were serious enough to warrant documenting and serious enough that the network was scared of an actual lawsuit. That ain't nothing. Also, Holly mentions Shannen being fired from 90210 for "being late" but if you were around in the early '90s you know the issues with Shannen ran a lot deeper than that. There was literal hair pulling and fist fights happening.
by Anonymous | reply 108 | December 18, 2023 6:16 PM |
Alyssa herself has admitted that she was a big cause of the drama on the set.
by Anonymous | reply 109 | December 18, 2023 6:27 PM |
[quote] Alyssa herself has admitted that she was a big cause of the drama on the set.
Holly said on the podcast they all could have behaved better and that there were no angels or demons. I'm sure Alyssa was horrible, but there's also a lot of revisionist history happening on the podcast. For example, Holly says that the crew all loved Shannen, but there's a story posted above about the crew applauding when a guest star called Shannen a bitch. They also blame the choice to fire Shannen and keep Alyssa solely on legal maneuvering by Alyssa, but if Alyssa was the source of all the drama behind the scenes I'm sure they'd have found a way to dump Alyssa.
One funny part of the podcast is when they talk about a potential reboot and the idea of running around in heels again. Holly says that the kids and grandkids can be the ones to run around in heels and then cracks "Drew [Fuller] wears heels just fine." Which is hilarious given how much Drew Fuller has always pinged.
by Anonymous | reply 110 | December 18, 2023 7:05 PM |
I can’t believe there was so much drama for a stupid show like Charmed. I mean…was anything on that show worth all of this shit?
by Anonymous | reply 111 | December 18, 2023 7:11 PM |
[quote] I can’t believe there was so much drama for a stupid show like Charmed.
That's the other thing that's hilarious. I get that Charmed has a passionate following, but it was also schlock at the end of the day. To hear Holly and Shannen talk about it, though, you'd think they were making Shakespeare. I remember Rose calling out Alyssa for saying "they don't pay me enough for this shit." But at least Alyssa was realistic about what they were making.
by Anonymous | reply 112 | December 18, 2023 7:17 PM |
It amazes me that anyone over 11 watched that show, yet plenty of my friends did and were really into it. Shannen's serious/tough expression in the major publicity pic was enough to put me off.
by Anonymous | reply 113 | December 18, 2023 8:59 PM |
Holly confirmed that Alyssa had Shannen fired
by Anonymous | reply 114 | December 18, 2023 10:01 PM |
Why did Alyssa have so much clout?
by Anonymous | reply 115 | December 18, 2023 10:53 PM |
Wasn’t Alyssa fucking one of the producers?
by Anonymous | reply 116 | December 18, 2023 10:55 PM |
Wasn't Alyssa fucking everyone at the time?
by Anonymous | reply 117 | December 18, 2023 11:10 PM |
I’M the boss, Bitch!
by Anonymous | reply 118 | December 18, 2023 11:21 PM |
Holly Marie Combs has aged into a brunette, late-era AMC, Marcy Walker...
by Anonymous | reply 119 | December 18, 2023 11:29 PM |
Alyssa dated Brian Krause and Eric Dane. Shannen dated Julian McMahon. I think Holly dated someone on the crew. Rose didn’t date anyone during the show because she was too traumatized from having her pussy eaten by Harvey Weinstein.
by Anonymous | reply 120 | December 19, 2023 12:14 AM |
R119 Holly is very plump but she looks good & has a wonderful mane.
by Anonymous | reply 121 | December 19, 2023 12:41 AM |
RIP, S!
by Anonymous | reply 122 | December 19, 2023 1:40 AM |
Julian McMahon was a HOT PIECE. She really had some of the hottest men in HoWo.
by Anonymous | reply 123 | December 20, 2023 3:34 AM |
Never saw McMahon's appeal. He was a total famewhore when with Dannii Minogue and after dumping her: Giving the Australian tabloids constant interviews, selling the pics of their wedding and even doing interviews and photo shoots on their honeymoon! Anything to get the cover of Woman's Day, trash mag from hell!
His head is so wide, he looks like he could have fathered Paris Hilton's son! Their wedding only made the cover of Woman's Day because Kylie was on the cover with them!
by Anonymous | reply 124 | December 20, 2023 8:11 AM |
Two talent free whores talking about ancient history
by Anonymous | reply 125 | December 20, 2023 5:30 PM |
So I take it Alyssa and Holly are on the outs now?
by Anonymous | reply 126 | December 20, 2023 5:32 PM |
Do you have to be on the outs to acknowledge the truth?
by Anonymous | reply 127 | December 20, 2023 5:44 PM |
Super interesting gossip R114.
Not sure I believe them though, because I remember that back in 2007/2008 Shannen Doherty had an official website that I used to access, full of pictures, and clippings of old interviews and articles about her.
There was a clipping of an interview from August of 2001, which Shannen regarded as one of her most honest interviews ever, where she hinted strongly that she hadn't been fired from Charmed, but had decided to quit instead, and her reason for quitting was the fact that they wouldn't let her have creative control over her character.
Not only that, but she even went into great detail about how the executives of Spelling productions/paramount and the WB told her they were going to destroy her career and sue the crap out of her once she informed them she was not going to renew her contract for a fourth season; she said they tried to mislead her into believing she could not legally do that.
But then she hired a lawyer in December of 2000 and took the case to court, she claimed that about a month later, in early 2001 when she was shooting a movie 🎥 with Julie McMahon in Canada, she received a very cold phone call from the WB or Spelling productions people letting her know that she "had won" and was going to get written out of the show.
She said that when her final day on set came, she didn't get any flowers nor a thank you note, nothing at all and the entire crew seemed upset at her.
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If what Holly said is true, then would Alyssa actually have had all that power and won a duel against Doherty? Specially when Doherty was the first to be cast and the main lead? Shannen herself admitted she was getting payed more than the other actresses.
Something tells me that if Alyssa had pulled out that kind of bullshit, she was the one who would have gotten fired,because even though she was very popular, she was playing the weakest witch of all four main characters and Aaron Spelling had personally invited Shannen himself for this show.
Why would Shannen have crafted such a detailed and convincing lie about quitting if that hadn't been the case?
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One other thing,Alyssa was asked about that back in 2013 and she seemed VERY honest when she said that Shannen and her didn't get along, but she still didn't know if Shannen had actually been fired or had quit the show, and she implied that none of the other cast members knew what had happened between Shannen and the executive producers that lead to that decision.
All that she recalled was that one day she arrived on the set to shoot an episode and she and the rest of the cast were informed right away that they were going to "let Shannen go" and that no one quite understood what was going on.
Of course celebrities lie all the fucking time, but Alyssa seemed like she was being honest when she explained Shannen's departure from the show.
by Anonymous | reply 128 | December 21, 2023 12:30 PM |
Have already said this, but Ben Affleck worked with Alyssa then Shannen back in 1995, then in 1998 he worked with Rose McGowan.
How many of the Halliwell sisters did he bang?
Holly Marie Combs on the other hand got to work with Tom Cruise.
by Anonymous | reply 129 | December 21, 2023 12:40 PM |
[quote]How many of the Halliwell sisters did he bang?
He raped me.
by Anonymous | reply 130 | December 21, 2023 1:06 PM |
R129 - so you’re saying Holly just found a bestie to braid her hair and eat fudge with?
by Anonymous | reply 131 | December 21, 2023 1:09 PM |
Excerpt from Alyssa's book:
Yes, we knew early on that Danny Pintauro was a fagela. He spent more time on his back than me. But, I loved him. He was no lopsided titty bitch on wheels like someone I know.
by Anonymous | reply 132 | December 21, 2023 1:38 PM |
So, all along, Alyssa has been the bitch, and Shannen has just been a Karen.
by Anonymous | reply 133 | December 21, 2023 2:19 PM |
Take the Shannen podcast with a grain of salt. It is their perspective of events with certain facts sprinkled in. It's not necessarily what was completely going on. I still don't see the real story 100% out there, anywhere. Has 65% of it been told. Yep. But not the important part. Do believe everything you listen to on this topic.
by Anonymous | reply 134 | December 22, 2023 7:28 AM |
Do you know something specific about the other 35%, R134?
by Anonymous | reply 135 | December 22, 2023 8:40 AM |
R128, “payed” is a nice touch.
by Anonymous | reply 136 | December 22, 2023 8:46 AM |
On the podcast, Shannen admitted that her people told her to say that she quit because her career wouldn't survive another firing. She says that she laughed at the suggestion because "Nobody would believe that I quit this show after three seasons." Also, it was more than "She stays or I go," Milano got the WB's HR department (she would constantly complain AND have it documented) and got lawyers involved. She and her mother went straight Machiavellian to get rid of Shannen and then threatened to sue the network. Holly admitted to staying the FUCK out of it because she was just glad to be there. I love me some HMC.
After all this time, I figured Doherty was the pain BUT I found this podcast straightforward and honest with HMC confirming everything. What really got me reassessing was an interview with S and HMC while they were promoting that reality show. The host asked what happened behind the scenes and Holly--CLEARLY tired of IT-- put a bow on it by saying "Look, why are we STILL talking about THIS. One day we were her friends and the next day we weren't." That was pretty telling.
ANYWAY...I am SO fascinated by behind-the-scenes shit. I think it started when I learned that Penny M and Cindy Williams hated each other while they were on set.
by Anonymous | reply 137 | December 22, 2023 10:08 AM |
[R137] That's not the entire story and some of that is not true. Can't post it NDAs, even posting nameless are pretty tight.
by Anonymous | reply 138 | December 22, 2023 2:26 PM |
[quote] Then one specific incident I still don't see mentioned anywhere (not on recent podcasts, articles or books) and Shannen had to be off the show
So I gather Shannen dug her own grave here?
by Anonymous | reply 139 | December 22, 2023 5:45 PM |
NDAs are not that tight. I dealt with a vindictive former employee who signed one and she just got other people to do her bidding and we were powerless to take action.
You’re making it sound like the CIA.
by Anonymous | reply 140 | December 22, 2023 8:03 PM |
R137 100% what I was gonna say. Shannen was told to say she quit. It makes 100% sense. Getting fired twice from high profile roles = career suicide. No one will work with you now because they will assume you’re a problem on set.
by Anonymous | reply 141 | December 22, 2023 9:36 PM |
RIP :(
by Anonymous | reply 142 | December 23, 2023 1:39 AM |
[quote] She was Heather Duke, and her look up from Moby Dick in the opening credits was one of the few moments where gayling me felt an attraction to a woman.
I was absolutely fascinated with her in 1999-2000 and didn't understand, at the time, that it was the little lesbian in me just being a lesbian already - she was so attractive, as you said, and I couldn't take my eyes off her.
[quote] RIP :(
R142, you're scaring me. I googled and didn't find anything.
by Anonymous | reply 143 | December 23, 2023 2:02 AM |
Shannen Picassoface is a southern fried republicunt and Alyssa Milano is very liberal. Shannen is ugly and Alyssa Milano still stands as Gen X mens’ first lust crush. Who was the bitch? My vote is for Shannen.
by Anonymous | reply 144 | December 23, 2023 5:23 AM |
R138 Nobody's asking for names. What parts of it aren't true? I mean...hit and run much?
by Anonymous | reply 145 | December 23, 2023 10:45 AM |
Remember when she married George Hamilton's son? That was bizarre.
by Anonymous | reply 146 | December 23, 2023 11:19 AM |