Was Lucille O'Ball really a closeted lesbian?

Yes I know I added an O'.

I doubt. She seemed to really loved Desi.

She was always in "boy trouble" from an early age, I doubt it

She wanted to come out, but Gary talked her out of it.

Lucille Ball stans

Off topic but I remember when Wendy Williams says she met Jane Fonda and Jane looked like she wanted to eat her lunch. She said Jane had very strong lesbian energy. And yes she said this on National television in front of a live audience.

R4- That's THE funniest comment of the day 😊

She did a set at the first Michfest which was very well received.

"Viv and I fooled around once. Then she told me she'd had sufficient!"

No OP

Actually she was a closeted ASHTRAY

her cigarette voice became quite prominent by the late 1960's.

OP = the ghost of Phil Ober

OP, it’s “Lucy O’Ball.”

No, I don’t get lesbian vibes from her. Her voice was ravaged, in the end.

Alright, not sure what the difference is because Bea Arthur almost had the same register.

R6 It's pretty well established Fonda had sex with women. The 60s etc in part responsible... but she's acknowledged it.

Doubtful. According to everyone who knew them Desi and Lucy had an incredibly hot sex life. One of the reasons she kept going back to him after leaving him numerous times. The dick was too good.

Oh no…she was a well known slut in the 30s and early 40s.

TCM did a podcast on Lucy. She was definitely not a lesbian.

Jane Fonda wanted to have sex with Wendy Williams?

Yeah, right.

Maybe she was bi.

Strictly business, r16.

She was a gay man trapped in a woman’s body.

I wish, OP.

Gary talked her out of it.

@r19, "Lucy teaches Ethel Merman to sing"

When Richard Burton and Elizabeth Taylor guest starred on Lucy, Lucy wanted to coach Elizabeth Taylor on her acting to which Richard Burton replied... "if she tried to pull any rank on Elizabeth “she would see, in person, what a Thousand Megaton Hydrogen Bomb does when the warhead is attached and exploded.”

Miss Taylor never got her acting lesson 🙄

Joan never got the A-list guests when she guest hosted. I'm guessing Johnny had heard one too many grievances from Ball.

R6 Wendy Williams thinks everyone is gay

Lucy was scheduled to star in a Desilu Playhouse production of The Children's Hour alongside Betty Furness. During rehearsals Gary Morton stormed onto the stage and pulled Lucy to the side. After a brief, hushed conversation, Lucy exclaimed, "What? They're DYKES??" The episode was immediately scrapped and replaced with a hastily assembled version of Private Lives with Earl Holliman and Jane Russell.

I remember Wendy Williams saying that Jane hit on her. I believe it. Wendy has an active gaydar. She said that P. Diddy was gay, called it a long time ago.

Jane was probably checking out Wendy’s bad lacefront or her ridiculous breast implants…

Lucy had a threesome in Cannes with Jane and Roger Vadim when "Mame" won the Palme d'Or.

R26 people who are gay usually do

She was well known by the elders in Jamestown for being very far from a lesbian

They closeted her butch statue too.

@r32, Her mother sent her to New York to get her away from the town bad boy/thug and some say to get an abortion

She did have a hard time getting pregnant with Desi…

Lucy- Viv, lets do some HARDCORE scissoring

Viv- LUCY! I'm not a LESBO!

Lucy wasn't the bi one in that marriage.

Lucy was so boring in that clip with Joan Rivers. She didn’t seem enthused to be there. Her responses were so generic.

Tabloid photo of the threesome with Marjorie Main & Desi.

R38 Believe it or not, I think that was one of Lucille’s better interviews from that period. She’s grumpy briefly after the commercial break, but there are other interviews in which she’s like that nearly the entire time. In the interview with Joan, she actually gets some laughs, which were less likely whenever she was grumpy. I think Carson sometimes had to struggle with Lucille because he knew her manner wasn’t always conducive to making an audience laugh. She seemed relaxed (as relaxed as Lucille could be, which wasn’t that relaxed) with Joan.

I'm gonna learn ta love that bitch's fire crotch.

R8: "She did a set at the first Michfest which was very well received."

"I brought my own nutloaf; let's just say my husband Gary's recuperation is coming along nicely."

O'Boy...!

My dick was bigger.

The scissors were a sign.

Lucy was a grape-wrestling old dyke who could roll with the best of them

Lucy ASHTRAY Ball

Lucy and Viv seemed pretty dyke-adjacent in this episode.

O'Dear.

Nope. Just a smoker, OP.

I really think she had the hots, and bad, for Desi.

Desi was a womanizer and drunk and would let his other friends *ahem* perhaps have at it, when drinking.

But I think Lucy never got over Desi. She settled, after him, and was bitter.

^ Hey, I resemble that remark 😠

He seems a little gay though.

R53, not gay, just Cuban...

All Cubans are "a little gay"

"All Cubans are "a little gay"

Excuse me?... Oh, yeah, nevermind

Phil Ober claimed Lucille and Vivian acted like dykes in heat.

Hasn't there been a story floating around the DL for years about how a stewardess approached Lucy on a flight and Lucy threw coffee on her crotch and shoved her face in it and said, "You call that a closeted lesbian?"

LOL r58

R53 Only the part of his pinga he let me suck.

Who had the bigger dick, Desi or Cesar?

This story about Lucy's childhood is sad.

Her grandfather gifted her brother a gun. They were target shooting in the backyard and a neighbor boy was accidently shot and left paralyzed. They were sued causing financial devastation, her stepfather went to jail and her family became pariahs in the town.

Did Lucy do spider-face when the bullet struck him?

What is the real story of Lucy and the flying coffee on an airplane? Does anyone know?

Bea Arthur once said that a significant amount of comediennes are lesbians but most are closeted. She worked with Lucy on Mame so it's possible that Lucy was a closet case or atleast bisexual.

R61. Lucille

@r65, Except Lucy really wasn't a natural comedian, she did however have impeccable timing and knew how to ACT funny, but she wasn't the least bit funny herself

Per the ILL writers, Vivian was the most naturally funny of the cast.

She also studied under Eva Le Gallienne.

I think she was probably bisexual on some level but believed that she could be "fixed" with enough dick and/or psychotherapy. It's probably why Phil tried to weaponize her friendship with Lucille - he knew it was a sore spot for her.

Lucy was too in love with Desi and hurt by him. She was a hetero in love.

I laughed out loud at some of her answers there. Her personal humor was more cynical and dry. "Lucy" was cartoonish and helpless, always needing the grown-ups to save her. 180* from the real Lucille.

Ball admitted she was not a comedienne. Her comic acting was heavily schtick-laden and rehearsed.