Matthew Perry is dead to me.

He drowned??

TMZ.

From TMZ: Law enforcement sources tell us the actor was found Saturday at an L.A.-area home ... where we're told he appears to have drowned. Our sources say first-responders rushed over on a call for cardiac arrest. It's unclear where exactly on the grounds this happened.

Our sources say he was found in a jacuzzi at the home ... and we're told there were no drugs found at the scene. We're also told there is no foul play involved.

We know

oh my fucking God.

this is horrible.

Thanks r2. Still haven’t figured out how to post TMZ links. Sad, I had hoped this wasn’t true. Damn.

No replies, R4

This thread was first.

"Matthew Perry Drowned to Death"

Is there another way to drown?

[quote] Still haven’t figured out how to post TMZ links.

Copy the link and paste it in the Web Site Link box. Voila!

Bumping to piss off miss piggy r4.

Wow most of us predicted him dying numerous times in recent years.

OMG!

[quote] OMG!

Dyatlov right?

So sad. RIP Matty.

Is this an Aaron Carter type situation?

It sounds like a potential heart attack. Wow. He seemed like he was really doing the sobriety thing this time.

This makes me sad.

Death by misadventure?

Could I be any sadder?

r16 No Perry wasn't on OnlyFans

With his health issues it's amazing he lived this long.

Now it's not just his love life that's DOA

Did he have "an" Onlyfans?

And yet Keanu Reeves still walks among us.

How sad. Drugs suck.

Well hello there.

Keanu Reeves silently chuckles to himself

R4, I searched on here and on Google and nothing came up. Don’t know what else I can do to verify.

R5 = Janice

His last Instagram post is him in that fucking jacuzzi

Am I the only Gen Xer who didn't watch Friends? I don't think I watched more than about 10 minutes of it.

No one told me life was gonna be this way CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP.

He was a chain smoker and overweight . It is such a shame that he never focused on getting really healthy

[quote] Still haven’t figured out how to post TMZ links.

TMZ links are like any other links. Copy and paste.

R34 of course you’re right. I opened it in the app and couldn’t figure out how to copy the link

r36 There's usually a squiggly line in the top right that says share content then just click copy link... I won't judge you for having the TMZ App.

r33 MP was a hardcore addict for a long time, its remarkable he made it this long

So young.

He went to school with Justin Trudeau.

Pity .

Thanks r37. I have the app but never really check the alerts. This one I did.

[quote] I opened it in the app and couldn’t figure out how to copy the link

Fortunately a million other people took care of it.

Yup re-elected. I really, really, really wish Muriel would fix this fucking search function.

Good lord… meant r43 at my post at r44. I’m done.

Chain smoker and a history of drug and alcohol addiction. He was a mess. RIP.

Dear God. I just do not want his costars to milk this.

Go On was a terrific show.I still watch it once in awhile. It should have gotten better publicity.

r47 = Susan Dey

One additional note—everyone is quoting the LA Times but TMZ had it first. And I HATE TMZ.

We know, Mary OP. See previous 25 threads.

R51. As I have fucking repeated 1000 times. I searched and Googled DL. Funny enough my post was first. But who fucking cares? Muriel, FIX the search function. And r51? Go fuck yourself. Or learn how to code.

I eat old people’s excrement.

By that age, no self-respecting adult sits in a communal pool for fear of creating a hazardous bio waste accident.

I hope he was wearing gold chains.

It wasn't a communal pool, it was his private Jacuzzi.

This was his private jacuzzi in his LA home.

MAGA is asking if he was vaxxed

R52 It's like howling into the wind: nobody hears a thing. No one named Muriel, anyway.

You were first, there must have 25 more threads posted after yours, and not one fucking one of them, yours included, shows up on DL's so called "search" function.

"Seek and ye shall find" is not operative on DL.

[quote]"Seek and ye shall find" is not operative on DL.

That's why we tell you to use Google. We've been telling you for *years*. Some people never learn.

OP perhaps if you capitalized, this thread would have gotten more comments. Other threads are approaching 600.

R59, did you not see my post where I said I DID use Google? Nothing came up. Perhaps because my thread was the first??? Hmmm...

^ and to be fair, I don't give a shit that my thread was the first, it's just better that a site can be searched so that there aren't 50 zillion threads on one topic. Sadly my dinner plans fell through and I was bored and perusing DL. That's the only reason mine was first.

This thread will be part 2 of the big thread

Gawd, of course someone took exception to him saying the ostomy bag spurred him to get clean. I guess nothing is undesirable to have now. Should he have said "fuck yeah! I scored the privilege of now having an ostomy! This is great and not all embarassing, unwieldy, time consuming, unsanitary, etc." If someone used mouth cancer as a cautionary, anti-smoking point, would be people with rotting gums be offended? Christ, not everything is great. That doesn't mean you should be ashamed if you have a medical problem. But stop fucking acting like it's not off putting and something to avoid.

He complained of being tired all week which is something junkies always say to explain being high

R58 I’ve learned to just use google. I suspect DL’s coders are nellie fashion school dropouts meaning they don’t know shit about tech. At any rate, typing in celeb name + plus datalounge.com is much better than DL’s search engine. I have even found old threads that I vaguely remembered the title on google NOT DL’s search engine.

[quote]He complained of being tired all week which is something junkies always say to explain being high

He probably had heart disease amongst numerous other health issues, Whitney Houston did too. That hard living for so long, the body just cant take it any more

I hate that the paps were out taking pictures of his elderly parents in their grief and stunned state and the Post even more for buying and publishing them.

The house has a totally different pool/jacuzzi now than what was shown in the realtor photos from its last listing.

This was never going to end well. He had put his body through the ringer. The surgery on his stomach was intense. He probably had the body of a 90 year old.

OP/R59 I too used Google and often must. There was nothing for “MP dead” on DL searching Google last night. There is now.

Which is not the point at all. I pay for DL. It is alleged to have a search function. One which sucks.

That was a huge pool / jacuzzi relative to the size of the back yard. All of the houses in that neighborhood are huge, relative to the size of the lots.

Anyway, it is a nice pool and Jacuzzi.

The joys of being very rich r72.

Who gets his stuff?

Among them being very dead?

His parents

Jacuzzi is a brand of hot tubs.

I am off to Xerox this thread.

GOOP speaks about her summer of magic with him.

Jennifer Aniston, Courteney Cox, David Schwimmer, Matt LeBlanc and Lisa Kudrow are preparing to release a joint statement after their former co-star was found dead in his Los Angeles home Saturday at age 54.

Of course r80. They’re all tied to each other professionally forever. Friends was a huge show that is still popular and made them all rich and famous. They aren’t gonna release statements immediately. That’s for everyone else. They release it as a joint statement and then can say something individually if they want to but they probably won’t.

It’s basic Hollywood ethics.

Let me tell you about ME and MY experiences with Matthew Perry! It's sad that he never lived long enough to sample my vagina candle

They'll be there for him.

Goop is a liar. She talks about spending the summer of 1993 with him and mentions that he had already shot the pilot of Friends. In reality, it wasn't filmed until May 1994 however.

Goop is probably full of shit but they did hook up. He made a point of naming her (and many other women) in his book.

Wow, his mom married the TV journalist Keith Morrison and has 4 kids that were Matt's half-siblings.

[quote]Goop is probably full of shit

She's so full of shit her colon should explode.

I wonder if his PA cleaned up and threw out any drugs.

Has Friend Dionne Warwick made a statement? You know, whenever Matt was feeling low - going in for a gravity defying lean while holding on to a fragile glass pipe - the song “that’s what friends are for” would play in his mind and help him cope.

Now, for those who are interested for a limited time, there are glass flower bud holders available - just like the ones cherished by Matthew Perry.

Operators ARE standing by.

They physic so they know you’re going to call, just remember the security code on that card.

Keith Morrison is looking more and more like Eunice Shriver.

He blew his chances for recovery. So did Whitney and Aaron Carter and countless others.

R81 Of course they are going to make individual statements. They will be asked about him for the next year. Are you delusional?

This is actually the most shocking celeb death in quite sometime. Perhaps the biggest since Prince. And yes I know bigger names have died since then but old people are expected to die. Every single one of us has seen Friends at least once. Many of us millenials grew up on it. Their iconic cats no matter how you feel about the show.

[quote] Their iconic cats

?

[quote]Their iconic cat's named "Smelly."

fixed

Why don’t these celeb druggies just hire pool boy scratch that pool monitors and shower watches. Their could be 2 shifts; pay them minimum wage with perks and unlimited access to the kitchen and fridge.

R93, sorry typing fast. Should read “they are an iconic cast”

[quote] Their could be 2 shifts

?

Shower watch

R97 Yes one young person making minimum wage couldn’t be there all the time. And a live in aid too expensive. There still would be the issue of not being able to be there all times. But shifts paying minimum wage Gen Zers. They would have to be qualified life guards as well. This would ensure they know CPR and are fit enough to move an unconscious body.

[quote]Who gets the money? Did he have a will? I love the home stunning view of the Pacific Ocean. Can I have the house? Who gets the residuals rights& the syndications checks?

I'm pretty sure he had a will. No one with tens of millions and who has almost died previously would be without a will.

And if he didn’t it goes straight to his parents because he has no kids or spouse.

It would be odd if his portfolio was bitcoin.

[quote]This is actually the most shocking celeb death in quite sometime.

This death was in no way shocking. He's looked like a walking corpse for the past ten years.

CNN: LA medical examiner indicates additional investigation required in Matthew Perry death.

[quote]additional investigation required in Matthew Perry death.

Toxicology

[quote]Barbara Cook’s son listed her apartment practically while she was still warm.

I knew Adam for years. His mother had a long-ish decline and her death in 2017 was not a surprise. She'd done quite a bit of planning and Adam handled almost all of her affairs. He had no fortune of his own and had no funds or reason to hold onto his mother's co-op after her death. He managed a really lovely memorial for her at Lincoln Center with many of Barbara's fellow singer, friends, and those she mentored speaking or singing in tribute. It was just perfect.

Sadly, he has since died himself (two summers ago) at age sixty-two of lymphocytic leukemia which had been in remission for decades. He was a warm, funny character and one of a kind. I hate to hear any nonsense about him, nothing could be further from the truth.

That picture of his parents is absolutely heartbreaking. Especially at their age. They have probably been waiting for that call for years. Life’s cruel twist.

Of course he had a will fuck nuts. For him to spend the amount of money he did on drugs and rehab and still afford the lifestyle he did means he did do something right financially.

I believe he was clean when he died but his body just wore out. It’s sad truly.

Did he have a Batman fetish? I read that in the prior thread. It would explain the weird flashing red Batman logo on either his pool cover, or at the bottom of his pool. This is clearly visible in the drone footage from last night, taken by the tabloids over his house while the LAPD was at the house investigating things.

I think I saw this in one of the clips at the Mail, on one of their many articles. I thought it was strange.

His dad doesn't look to be in great shape.

The Friends each make about $20mm per year in residuals from syndication.

I wonder who his heirs are.

Im surprised he had no kids.

[quote]Batman logo on either his pool cover, or at the bottom of his pool

It’s at the bottom of his pool. If you look at the Daily Mail photos, you can see its outline.

[QUOTE]No one with tens of millions and who has almost died previously would be without a will.

Prince has already been mentioned in these threads. He died intestate. His plane had to make an emergency landing in Iowa after OD. He received Naloxone either on the plane or in the hospital. And he had a valuable music catalog to consider.

I believe Aretha also died without a will, but her wealth was much less. Still, she had to know the end was coming.

Matthew Perry’s heirs are his parents. That his was his closest next of kin. It will be more complicated because they are divorced. Now if he has a Will that changes things.

Perry had a number of health issues a few years back. Maybe, he had a will.

I get why people are focusing on a will, but, his money may be non-probate.

Unless California went their own way, generally what controls how his money is distributed is whoever he put as beneficiary on his financial accounts receives that money, which isn't subject to a will.

A will controls for how his physical property is distributed- homes, clothing, cars, furniture.

But, I don't know California trust and estates law, so I could be wrong.

Aretha had a will. It was handwritten and found under a sofa cushion and IIRC, not witnessed but it was accepted by the Probate Court (or whatever it’s called in Michigan) as valid.

Perry was this.close to death a few years ago, when he got the colostomy. He was given a 2 percent chance of living. I can’t imagine he didn’t have a will. This was not a shocking death to anyone who actually knew him or to anyone who read his book. It was clear in the book that he was one missed Suboxone pill or even a bad week away from relapse. I’m sure his parents are sad but relieved because his life has been an emotional rollercoaster for 30 years. They probably mourned any normal, functioning relationship with him decades ago. Based on his book, they have been taking care of him and emotionally supporting him through his 20+ rehabs.

I know a few people in AA who died months, even years after achieving sobriety. Some had simply done too much damage to themselves via booze and some had relapses that proved fatal.

[quote] found under a sofa cushion

That sofa cushion must've have one deep sink hole where Arethe sat.

I heard that he drownded.

The coverage with drones over house /pool is by far the most disgusting exploitation I’ve ever seen.

Fank you, R121.

[quote] That sofa cushion must've have one deep sink hole where Arethe sat.

Must've had

TMZ said he drownded to death.

Fank you, R125.

I fixded your cheeseburger, R126.

[quote]Aretha had a will. It was handwritten and found under a sofa cushion

That's some ghetto shit.

My mom has been a prescription painkiller addict for over fifty years. We finally got a doctor to treat her addiction and she takes Suboxone, but it is still in the same opioid drug family and naturally she abuses it and seems drugged and high most of the times I see her. She is in her mid-eighties. It is a hopeless situation as she has zero interest in anything but obtaining more. I basically just await the phone call. Addicts in the family will wear you out completely.

R129 that’s horrible but still kind of impressive? Her longevity…

R129 = John son of Linda

Sorry to hear, R129. I suspect Perry was on suboxone or methadone. Plus marijuana / THC.

I'm surprised that Vicodin was his drug of choice. It's a lightweight pain killer, relatively.

I was surprised by the Vicodin too. Only thing I could think is maybe it was easier to obtain, get new prescriptions than stronger opiates.

Vicodin also contains acetaminophen. Taking 55 pills a day, plus boozing, would surely cause some liver damage too.

[quote]Prince has already been mentioned in these threads. He died intestate. His plane had to make an emergency landing in Iowa after OD. He received Naloxone either on the plane or in the hospital. And he had a valuable music catalog to consider. I believe Aretha also died without a will, but her wealth was much less. Still, she had to know the end was coming.

Okay. I stand corrected. A small minority of people who have millions and are extremely foolish do not have wills. Maybe they want to make life a living hell for potential heirs or they're really out of it.

No one with that kind of income doesn't have a will.

R125 TMZ is talking out of its gaping ass because cause of death hasn't been released.

R113 I thought Prince died in his elevator? R119 Same. I've been sober for 9 years. Lots of people do lots of damage and then when they get sober, they finally get to the doc and do check ups, where an underlying issue is discovered and they don't live long. Getting sober didn't make them die, but finally getting a dx makes it seem like it's a recent health problem, when in reality it's been there and was just finally named. R129 Oh I'm sorry. Suboxone is fucking evil and not a cure for addiction, it's like methadone, just another drug.

Eminem said that he took 65 Vicodin a day at some point.

Howard Hughes was worth $2.5 B at his death - equivalent to approximately $55B today.

He died intestate. Sure, he also died crazy, but he died without a will.

Jimi Hendrix, Bob Marley, Sonny Bono, Stieg Larsson (Girl with the Dragon Tatoo author), Amy Winehouse, Chadwick Boseman, Stan Lee, Kurt Cobain, Heath Ledger, and Picasso also all died without a will.

Many very famous and very rich people die without valid wills.

Could we waste any more time talking about his will?

I did not like Heath Ledger in his role as "Joker".

[quote] "fuck yeah! I scored the privilege of now having an ostomy! This is great and not all embarassing, unwieldy, time consuming, unsanitary, etc." If someone used mouth cancer as a cautionary, anti-smoking point, would be people with rotting gums be offended? Christ, not everything is great. That doesn't mean you should be ashamed if you have a medical problem. But stop fucking acting like it's not off putting and something to avoid.

R64, my mother had an ileostomy and had to live with an ostomy pouch the last several years of her life. She had ulcerative colitis that created multiple perforations in her small intestine. She was mortified at first but she learned to manage it very well. She was able to function as she had before with almost no accidents and no odor. I actually gained a new respect for her, a woman who was gravely self-conscious all her life, as she bravely acclimated and navigated this challenge at the end of her life.

Perry's comments were thoughtless because several misfortunes which are not self-inflicted can result in someone, sometimes a child or young person, requiring an ostomy. It is NOT the worst thing that could happen to a person. No one needs to hear a junkie who needlessly put himself on a collision course with an ostomy bitch about how awful it is. Particularly when there are people throughout the world in desperate need of ostomy resources and supplies.

R117 😂. Bruh tell me you are lying for comedic effect. Not a sofa cushion?

Oh I agree R142, self inflicted stuff like that is less sympathetic. But this new trend of acting like every way to live is great, and none is better than any other is fucking annoying. Now if you were to say, "don't eat shitty foods or you'll get fat!" you'd have Tess Holliday and other ham planets screeching that getting fat is fun and nothing to be avoided. It's obnoxious. Good for your mom, that would be a hard thing for a woman to deal with and it sounds like she did it with grace and dignity.

R140 Watching that he actually was very talented. Sad. RIP. I promise to deal with my own demons before I’m 40.

Now don't you wish you'd quit earlier, like I did?

The blogger who does The Points Guy UK has ulcerative colitis and wears an ostomy bag. He’s very honest and direct about it. I really admire him for his candor.

Matt speak? Hey, David Spade called, he wants his line delivery back.

Crohns Disease, not UC, Sorry…

His YouTube channel…

This scene was so awesome. Sigh, all these references will be lost in time, like tears in rain...

[quote] Thanks for all the laughters and all the inspiration! You'll be deeply missed!

R152 I don't get it.

Perry was definitely taking Suboxone when he wrote his book. He seemed addicted to Suboxone and talked about how he needed to take that or he’d get sick. Which made me seriously concerned that he was abusing that. If they didn’t find Suboxone in his house, I would bet money it’s because he’d moved onto harder stuff. No way this guy could go without opioids or some detox meds.

Thank you, r144, I like to remember my mother as a person who exhibited grace under pressure. I understand that issues such as fat acceptance are dicey. I know a few people that had gastric bypass, or some similar surgery, and I would have no issue with someone railing it as the worse thing in the world. Particularly if the message is that willpower, diet and exercise is preferable to gastric bypass. There are few excuses for an able-bodied person to indulge a sedentary lifestyle considering all the health problems that can come with it. As well, gastric bypass is rarely if ever a life-saving operation for the critically ill.

As you know, the great majority of people with an ostomy don't have it because they burst their colon with opioid abuse. His comments were callous and lacking compassion for those who find themselves with an ostomy as an alternative to death and for no reason of their own making. Of course, Perry clearly had many more problems that merely being an insensitive jerk to critically ill, and possibly disabled, people.

Thank you for educating me (seriously) R155. I had a brother with cystic fibrosis, and I loved him but I thought CF fucking sucked, if someone said they didn't want a child with Cf, I wouldn't blame them. But I guess it's pretty different for someone living with a...well, liveable condition. If there's nothing you can do about it, it may be hurtful to hear someone talking badly about it.

His talk about the ostomy was gross and Insensitive, which was kind of how he generally came across in his book. I think he said he’d kill himself if he had to live with an ostomy long-term.

If it’s an consolation, he was also a jerk towards every woman he ever worked with, the Friends cast (esp Leblanc), the dentist who removed his teeth, Keanu Reeves (twice), etc.

I'm just waitinf for the inevitable, queer, BIPOC, written article that says, "it's a shame he is dead, but we need to talk about the damage that "Friends" did to queer folx of color". You know it's coming.

Indeed, r130. She probably went from low to increasingly high benzos over the many, many years of abuse and climbed up to wicked abuse territory when Opioids became available.

Indeed, r156, there is great stigma associated with having an ostomy -- i.e. the shame and disgust of having to wear a bag with your own excrement. It also requires a great deal of work and planning to function with it, and can be challenging and at times publicly embarrassing. I have a uniquely sympathetic perspective on the subject watching a loved one endure it. In addition to all the clinical help to learn how to manage an ostomy and care for the stoma, people very often need extensive therapy to overcome shock, humiliation and depression so they can learn to live with it.

It is a tough enough situation without someone who experienced all of that, and was apparently fortunate enough to have it reversed, demeaning the condition of others who are not so fortunate.

^^^Interestingly, children adapt to an ostomy the quickest and with the least angst.

Off topic, sorry; but I never found Lea Thomas attractive. I'm watching the Friends episode where they take the baby on the bus. How the hell did she always get cast as the hot chick? Her Tiny, ratlike face, and little yellowish teeth. She makes Aniston look like Linda Evangelista.

Here’s his house before he moved in I believe. I like layout and the view;

For some reason I am kind of shaken about this. I know Mary but he just seemed like such a nice guy who discovered opioids and got addicted. I think he may have had an addictive personality like me. My friends used to call me a black Chandler before I came out. It’s like a wake up to my own lapses with addiction. It really is a lifelong thing. Despite this, I know I’m weak. It’s a choice You chose to call your dealer, meet him, and then pay. There is ample time to just say enuff. You know where that road leads. I can’t keep blaming hangups about being gay or racial discrimination. NO I’m a fkin addict and I choose to cop. It’s that simple. I will survive though and will be clean from here on out.

[quote] She makes Aniston look like Linda Evangelista.

Oooh, you're evil...we should be best friends!

R163 I don’t think that’s the home he died in. He had a cottage in the Palisades. He currently owned two homes in LA. The cottage is where he died. I didn’t watch the vid you posted.

They know he can’t hear them (well, maybe not Kristen Chenoweth) yet all this commenting.

Having been prescribed Vicodin following a few orthopedic surgeries I can't begin to imagine taking 50 Vicodin -- or even 25 Vicodin -- per day, and what that would do to my colon. I was prescribed 1-2, every 4-6 hours. I was in so much pain during the first two days after my Achilles surgery, I took two every four hours or so. It depended on how soon I woke up after taking two -- which knocked me out within 20 minutes. So, I was taking 10-12 per day.....and sleeping most of the time.

After 2-3 days, I was ready to move on to plain old Tylenol/Ibuprofen to control the pain...because I just wanted to TAKE A SHIT.

Was this a Whitney drowning?

R169, are you trying to transition him post death?

R143: Google is my friend. Let it be yours.

As Whoopi notes, nobody thinks they're gonna die. Aretha's survival for 8 years from diagnosis to death with pancreatic cancer was nothing short of a medical miracle - something like 90% of those diagnosed are dead within a year - and clearly she was doing some thinking about the great beyond and who gets what when she was gone: they found two wills. The one in the sofa was judged the valid one.

[Quote]For some reason I am kind of shaken about this. I know Mary but he just seemed like such a nice guy who discovered opioids and got addicted. I think he may have had an addictive personality like me. My friends used to call me a black Chandler before I came out. It’s like a wake up to my own lapses with addiction. It really is a lifelong thing. Despite this, I know I’m weak. It’s a choice You chose to call your dealer, meet him, and then pay. There is ample time to just say enuff. You know where that road leads. I can’t keep blaming hangups about being gay or racial discrimination. NO I’m a fkin addict and I choose to cop. It’s that simple. I will survive though and will be clean from here on out.

I/ I'm count: 9 Me/ my count: 3

This is a Matthew Perry thread, Urinalcake.

R171. Thanks. Try not to be a cunt next time when you start. Thank though.

[quote]I'm just waitinf for the inevitable, queer, BIPOC, written article that says, "it's a shame he is dead, but we need to talk about the damage that "Friends" did to queer folx of color". You know it's coming.

Someone already did a tweet kind of like that.

Gawd, R174, he came out as "queer, pan and bi" also, he's not cute. Thanks for the laugh. That's a fun twitter thread.

R170 Whitney Houston walked so Matthew Perry could drown.

Waded, R176, not walked.

R177 😂. We are the worst.

It’s hard for me to garner too much sympathy for him though.

Yeah, he dug himself into a hole.

[quote]It’s hard for me to garner too much sympathy for him though.

You might want to look up "garner" in a dictionary sometime, because you obviously have no idea what it means.

Maybe r179 meant "gather" in an unfortunate spell check incident, and you decided to swoop in and use the sad occasion of Perry's death to pump up your ego, r181?

Please, do try harder in service of your own obviously fragile ego.

[quote] garner something to obtain or collect something such as information, support, etc. synonym gather, acquire

[quote] All the information that we garnered has been kept on file.

Seems like an OK use of "garner," IMO.

I am the only one that thinks enough is enough. Tina Turner didn’t get much coverage. He already looked like the grim reaper was walking aside him for years.

This^

I'll be praying for Matthew's soul.

So did the cast release their statement today? The entertainment reporter they interviewed on the local news this morning said it would be today and even scolded them by saying "it shouldn't have taken this long," which I found somewhat ridiculous. Last I checked, there is no Federal law stating they have to say anything at all, let alone on a timetable set by the media and the public.

I can’t believe the cast hasn’t said anything. They must have thought this day was coming at any minute for 20 years. He actually almost died a few years ago.

[quote] I am the only one that thinks enough is enough. Tina Turner didn’t get much coverage. He already looked like the grim reaper was walking aside him for years.

I'm glad I wasn't the first one to say it. I am genuinely confounded by the amount of coverage. The guy had been MIA for years and then looked horrible when he did surface. Is it because "Friends" is on a streaming platform or something?

They just released it:

That's a nice, classy statement from them.

[quote] From TMZ: Law enforcement sources tell us the actor was found Saturday at an L.A.-area home ... where we're told he appears to have drowned.

𝑻𝒉𝒆 𝒑𝒓𝒐𝒑𝒉𝒆𝒄𝒚 𝒇𝒖𝒍𝒇𝒊𝒍𝒍𝒆𝒅

The RIGHT WINGERS are hilarious. They are spreading the word that Matthew Perry was about to EXPOSE Hollywood Secrets!! He was writing a book to EXPOSE all of the secrets!!! ALL of the secrets!!!....Video...Don't waste your time on the video past the first 30 seconds.

That was a boring and predictable statement from the surviving 5 Friends. The only person who said anything of interest, so far, is Hank Azaria.

Perfect brilliant response from the cast. Nowadays every little thing, cunts nitpick. They couldn’t say too much. RIP Matt.

I can see the cast fighting for the microphone at the funeral. Especially Jennifer. Will her 4 bodyguards stand beside her?

[quote] I can see the cast fighting for the microphone at the funeral

Perhaps, considering the public and media will be demanding tears and sobbing for the martyred "friend" (i.e. a junkie loser they worked with 25 years ago)

[quoteSeems like an OK use of "garner," IMO.

You either have sympathy for someone or you don't. Sympathy is not something you go around "garnering" from outside sources.

Okay, R198, how about muster? Muster seems like the right word. I can't muster up too much sympathy for a dude who was worth 120 million and didn't use it to get the best psych care. How's that?

I’m not the Funeral Planner, but, it wouldn’t surprise me if services are private, by invitation only and if you’re invited, you’re asked to not disclose where, when, and with strict prohibition on media, cell phones, that kind of thing.

There’s a lot of truth to the saying that famous people stay stunted at the age which they became famous. Perry seemed adolescent in his fifties personality wise. Houses full of batman toys and a petulant attitude regarding his decades ling addictions. Dated attitudes towards women and pursuing 19 year olds on Raya. Talk about having everything and knowing the value of nothing.

[R201] Yes, he seemed completely dated in his thinking about women. Like a high school boy bragging about hookups. He also had a bizarrely immature attitude about life generally in that he idealized other people’s lives and suffering while taking very little ownership of his own troubles. In his book, he would say things like “I’d gladly trade places with poor people or with non-famous people” (because he would not be an addict) without realizing that those kinds of people also deal with addiction or other serious problems. He was an incredibly self-centered person, or maybe just unfiltered and out of it enough to admit in print what other people would try to hide.

"Garner sympathy" is a very common idiom.

[quote] "Garner sympathy" is a very common idiom.

You don’t fucking say!

[quote] pursuing 19 year olds on Raya

The 19 year olds on Raya are the pursuers

[quote] You either have sympathy for someone or you don't. Sympathy is not something you go around "garnering" from outside sources.

Yes, sympathy is something that you can garner, when necessary. As R203 says, it's a common saying. You might have a close family member who brought upon his own troubles. Yet, you must garner sympathy and help him because Mom said so.

Christ Almighty, enough already about this addict! He wasn't that interesting or talented. Come next week no one is going to remember if he's dead or alive.

You could always avoid this thread and others on the same subject, R207.

Jesus christ, can we please stop talking about the person that the thread is about? Why can't you fuckers let it go? And why this thread in particular?

I mostly ignored Friends but was he the one with the gay rumors or was that Matt LeBlanc?

Supposedly, r210. There was a lot of rumor back in the day, on the old ASG newsgroups. Lots of stories of secret hookups and the like. But who knows.

I think my shrink would have a lot of empathy for your ordeal R129: his 87 year old mother is going through one gram a day of cocaine, a downgrade for her previous 3-5 g a day that she's had for more than 60 years. But she always got away with it being a wealthy white influential, very well-married lady from Highland Park whose seemingly never-ending pep and go-getter style has always been admired in her community. I asked what happened to her nose and it looks like she uses a flexible silicon hose that reaches beyond the nasal cartilage and the roof of the mouth and she never had any problem. But how the heart is still beating after all those years of abuse, it's just a medical mystery.

R207 is a magnificent cunt.

This thread was the Fake Jan of part 2s

He liked 16 year olds.

When they say no drugs were found "at the scene," do they mean by the hot tub or in the entire house?

The assistant hid them 😆.

R48 it was pretty good. Terrific cast.

Who?

Cocaine granny sounds cool.

Good lord. How does someone sustain a cocaine addiction for 60 years!? That British soap star he had a thread about a while ago was using for less than half that time and she looks utterly destroyed.