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I left California for North Dakota, and there's so much to love about small-town life

I left Los Angeles in 2020 because it was killing me. My office commute was almost two hours one way, even though my job was just 15 miles from my home. The cost of living in Los Angeles is astronomical, and I had to live with my parents because I couldn't afford anything.

After I had a stress-induced seizure with a massive stint of anxiety and panic attacks, I saw a therapist and concluded that living in the LA-area was contributing to my health problems.

When I first decided to move, I looked into bigger cities so I wouldn't feel out of place, but I ended up looking for a city that wasn't nearly as big as LA. My other criterion was that I wanted to move to a place where I knew someone already.

I had a friend in Williston, North Dakota, so I chose to live in Bismarck, the capital of North Dakota — it ticked all my boxes.

It's obscenely cheap to live here and doesn't require a roommate just to afford a place. The apartment I first moved into was $800 bucks a month; the same apartment in LA would have been at least $2500.

I had a job lined up as soon as I moved out here, but it fell through because of COVID-19. The week I moved, the entire state went on lockdown. Even so, I've been happier since I moved here, and I now work remotely.

It's so nice to be able to afford things. After living here for about two years, I purchased a four-bedroom, two-bathroom home for just under $300,000.

Bismarck is a lovely place that's much slower than LA. It's also really clean compared to LA's much larger homeless population with the poorly maintained streets.

It even feels different to breathe here; the air smells different because there's less smog. Also, you only see a few stars in LA because of the light pollution, but when you look up at the sky here, you've got the whole Milky Way.

In LA, you get used to all that white noise, cars honking, people talking, and the hustle and bustle of life, but sometimes I can go outside in Bismarck and not hear a sound. It was a little disconcerting at first. I was so used to the noise pollution that I felt anxious, like something was wrong. But after I got used to the quiet, I enjoyed time outside.

When I moved to Bismarck, I was looking for a place that had all four seasons, instead of just summer, but the weather can get crazy here. Last winter, we almost broke our snowfall record — 101.2 inches of snow. Sometimes, I couldn't get out of my driveway or open my front door.

The temperature was in the negatives, we had blackouts and internet outages, and it got cold to the point where you couldn't go outside. The roads got so icy that the entire state was shut down for about a week straight.

As far as meeting new people and finding interesting things to do, there's not much here. Luckily, my one friend in North Dakota later became my girlfriend, and we live together. We have a small circle of friends, and for fun, we'll take her dog for a walk, find a new place to eat, or just go to the mall to do some shopping.

The main attractions are bars, going to the river, or mudding — taking your truck into a muddy field and driving around. People love to go mudding, but it's not for me. I'd rather stay out of all the mud.

I feel as though there's heavy racism up here, and I don't like that. It's a red state and some people aren't very accepting of others who aren't Christian or Catholic, or who are people of color.

On several occasions, in the grocery store, I've overheard people talking bad about the people of color who are either shopping or working at the store — it's even worse when the worker doesn't speak fluent English.

Even though things seem to be getting better in Bismarck, I prefer more diversity. If I decide to have a family, this is not where I'd want to raise them.

I'll always be drawn to Los Angeles because it's my home — where I was raised. I don't think it makes sense for anyone to live there now with how expensive it is, but I still miss it. The middle ground for me will probably be moving to a mini, more affordable version of LA, perhaps in Colorado or Utah.

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by Anonymousreply 36October 12, 2023 4:30 PM

This guy's essay makes no sense.

It sounds like it's going to be a positive picture of North Dakota, but by the end it sounds awful!

by Anonymousreply 1October 11, 2023 3:26 AM

Is that K.D. Lang?

by Anonymousreply 2October 11, 2023 4:20 AM

The reason it's cheap is because it's a dump

by Anonymousreply 3October 11, 2023 4:21 AM

“I’m gonna move to Bismarck, North Dakota and compare it to California!”

by Anonymousreply 4October 11, 2023 4:29 AM

Get a blog, OP

by Anonymousreply 5October 11, 2023 4:50 AM

[quote]others who aren't Christian or Catholic,

Obviously a born again Christian.

by Anonymousreply 6October 11, 2023 4:57 AM

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by Anonymousreply 7October 11, 2023 5:36 AM

He writes at Jr. HS level. Yet is doing fine and owns a home after only 2 years. Well go figure.

by Anonymousreply 8October 11, 2023 5:38 AM

Let it snow, let it snow,LET IT SNOW!

by Anonymousreply 9October 11, 2023 5:53 AM

He wants to move somewhere like LA, but cheaper. Like Utah. ROFL

by Anonymousreply 10October 11, 2023 2:20 PM

"Luckily, the woman I stalked all the way to North Dakota has finally abandoned all hope and become my 'girlfriend'..."

by Anonymousreply 11October 11, 2023 2:36 PM

I hate driving, no thanks

by Anonymousreply 12October 11, 2023 2:37 PM

My takeaway: dude stalked that girl, remote work is a life-saver, and Bismark sounds like as much if a shithole as LA just cheaper.

by Anonymousreply 13October 11, 2023 2:41 PM

"The main attractions are bars, going to the river, or mudding — taking your truck into a muddy field and driving around."

And that's in the capital.

by Anonymousreply 14October 11, 2023 2:49 PM

What a nut. Bismarck is boring and racist? No shit Sherlock.

by Anonymousreply 15October 11, 2023 2:59 PM

He looks like a drag king. Murray Hill on ozempic.

by Anonymousreply 16October 11, 2023 3:07 PM

This is hysterical. Business Insider publishes these idiots viewpoints on purpose, in case they go viral for laughs. There was one a few months ago where another idiot offered their ridiculous view of some trip to a city, I wish I could find it. The whole point of the article is to laugh at Gen Z’s inept observations and lack of self-awareness and street smarts.

Tons of people have left California for other parts of the country, of course. It’s always a culture shock to leave a city like NYC or LA. I grew up in NYC metro area and as an adult I lived in Manhattan for 16 years. Now I also live in bumblefuck America. I should offer my essay to Business Insider but basically it would be: Manhattan is great when you’re young. Later in life it’s nice to just sit by the fire, drive hassle-free to the store, and be able to afford a yard and pool. Yeah, it shows a ton in parts of the country. Talking to people who worked as UPS drivers is not quite the same level of conversation as authors, journalists and fund managers. But eventually you don’t care and you don’t want to talk to anyone anyway. I spend most of my day immersed in media, movies and remote work so I feel Iike I am back in New York anyway. I buy all my clothes online and still wear fashion (the people in my town literally wear pajamas to the grocery store.) I focus on the positive stuff like having neighbors who actually give a crap about me. Someone cross-country skied to my house during the aftermath of a blizzard and dropped me off food.

by Anonymousreply 17October 11, 2023 3:24 PM

R17 you sound insane. Different people like different things. We aren’t all the same. Grow the fuck up.

by Anonymousreply 18October 11, 2023 3:33 PM

I'm not interested in hearing about the life experiences of heterosexuals. Even if he was hot, which this moleman is not.

by Anonymousreply 19October 11, 2023 3:33 PM

[quote] Last winter, we almost broke our snowfall record — 101.2 inches of snow. Sometimes, I couldn't get out of my driveway or open my front door.

That is a deal-killer.

by Anonymousreply 20October 11, 2023 3:35 PM

"Insider" doesn't really have writers and an editorial staff, hun. It's mostly a clickbait-producing aggregator and an entirely shitty and unreliable source of information.

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by Anonymousreply 21October 11, 2023 3:37 PM

I live close to Bismarck. Growing up here was depressing in many ways. I'm Jewish and I remember swastikas being painted on our synagogue. Maybe that's how it is everywhere but I think it would have been easier to grow up in a bigger, more diverse city. I'm also mixed ethnicity so yeah, it was hard. Everyone gets married young, tons of ignorant farmer types. Nothing to do. People who are different are looked down upon. Wouldn't recommend living here unless you're white and heterosexual.

by Anonymousreply 22October 11, 2023 3:44 PM

R22 that’s because you’re Jewish. Reread what you wrote. If you were a WASP life would be very different for you in that small town.

However, antisemitism isn’t only in small towns. Wake up.

by Anonymousreply 23October 11, 2023 3:47 PM

I'm not Jewish and swastikas aside, I think it would be grim. I've lived in college towns that were either 45 minutes form a medium sized city or a couple hours from a big one, that was isolated enough. Small places are inward looking and you need to be prepared to deal with that.

by Anonymousreply 24October 11, 2023 3:50 PM

R22, how is Fargo?

It's a much bigger city, isn't it?

I'm guessing it might be more tolerable than Bismarck.

by Anonymousreply 25October 11, 2023 3:52 PM

Don't believe any of this. I am from this state. It is horrible.

by Anonymousreply 26October 11, 2023 4:26 PM

I lived in Bismarck for 2.5 years right after college, in the late '90s. It sucked. It was for work.

Was back for a brief visit in August, first time I'd been there in a full 20 years. If anything it's worse - a lot more anonymous suburban-style development and infiltration of chain restaurants and stores. Local population remains blindingly white and of course the local politics have shifted to the right. You couldn't pay me to go back to live, I don't care how cheap it is.

by Anonymousreply 27October 11, 2023 4:30 PM

Despite what I just posted, Bismarck is in no way a "small town." The Bismarck-Mandan area has more than 100,000 people. Not exactly a metropolitan area, but nothing like a small town. As others mentioned, Business Insider sucks.

by Anonymousreply 28October 11, 2023 4:33 PM

Fargo is a *little* better. It's got a couple real universities, is a little bigger and marginally more diverse. Plus, crucially, it's 3 hours closer to Minneapolis-St. Paul then Bismarck. But living in Fargo would still suck.

by Anonymousreply 29October 11, 2023 4:36 PM

R23. I think R22 is the one who is self-aware. You are not.

by Anonymousreply 30October 11, 2023 4:49 PM

Molly Yeh ("Girl Meets Farm") is half-Jewish and half-Chinese and lives with her (Caucasian) husband on a farm on the ND-MN border (near Grand Forks.

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by Anonymousreply 31October 11, 2023 4:51 PM

[quote] $800 bucks

Eight hundred dollars bucks.

That *really* irritates me. Time for my meds, I guess.

by Anonymousreply 32October 11, 2023 6:37 PM

r32 Have you noticed that there's an alarming trend of younger people putting the dollar sign AFTER the number? Can I have some of your meds, because that irritates me.

by Anonymousreply 33October 11, 2023 6:57 PM

Another anti-California article. How refreshing. Keep telling us how everyone wants to move to the red states.

by Anonymousreply 34October 11, 2023 7:00 PM

Life is what you make of it now matter where you live. I've lived in NYC and LA and had a ball. Chicago too. But what suited me then doesn't suit me now. I found my little slice of heaven in a medium size southern city. Love it. I don't need to live in a city with a million things happening all at the same time. I'm super happy with a solid creative community, enough cultural events, good food and access to a decent airport. Love the trees and fresh air. I'm 56, though. In my 40s, I didn't miss a party, vacation or event. Bounced around the world like I was made of money. Sure do wish I'd saved more. My unsolicited advice, have fun and enjoy wherever makes you happy but you can afford. Remember nothing is forever and you can move again and again.

by Anonymousreply 35October 12, 2023 2:27 AM

30 below keeps the riff-raff out.

by Anonymousreply 36October 12, 2023 4:30 PM
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