Why do straight chicks pretend to be bi and queer?

Attention and they also they think it makes them special and unique.

Recently had to deal with a woman I work with - married to a man, with children, identifies as bisexual but has never been in a relationship with a woman, who wanted to educate us all on pronoun etiquette. Exactly zero self awareness.

Because it is trendy and they have NO imagination.

They like to identify as "queer" because they were never called that as a verbal attack.

Because they don't like being straight, OP!

Straight people are proof that sexual orientation is immutable, inborn and unchangeable. Because lots of straight men have always hated women, but can't stop wanting them, and lots of straight women have always hated men, and for the last century they've gone around whining that they wish they were lesbians because their female friends make them happy and men make them miserable. So, now that it's socially acceptable for women who hate being straight to call themselves "Bi" or "nonbinary", and tell themselves that they aren't straight, they do. Get with the program, OP!

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[quote]The fact that females/TIF's are on Grindr is a prime example of female homophobia and narcissism.

I agree but in all fairness, there are men on lesbian dating sites as well.

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I remember back in my clubbing days in the 00’s girls would start dirty dancing and grinding on each other on the dance floor, just to get attention. It was rather pathetic.

They fucking suck.

They do more harm than good.

They call themselves "queer"

That's hilarious, R10.

I know a couple of women who love the male body but don‘t fantasize about a man touching them or something. Add this to deeper emotional and all kinds of relationships with women - and gay men - than with straight men who are either unavailable or that you are always weary of, and I can understand that feeling that you don‘t feel to be part of the „straight“ package, where your interest and whole focus of existence is supposed to be men, and men or family only.

[quote] Females have ruined gay men's spaces. The fact that females/TIF's are on Grindr is a prime example of female homophobia and narcissism.

R6, as a gay man, I absolutely agree 100% with this statement.

Why?

Because sex is fun and enjoyable for most. And maybe they are more into a bit of fun sex than sitting around arguing about labels which does seem to be a gay male preoccupation and worry.

And maybe they are not as hung up on sex and labels as many men seem to be.

It’s just going down on a wet pussy it’s not a life time commitment. It may not even be a full evenings commitment.

But what kind of person sits around worrying about someone else’s sex life as if it impacts theirs. Which almost all the time it does not.

You don’t have to be “born that way” as a man to know that if you stick your dick into the right GH it’s going to feel good. And what’s wrong with just feeling good.

[quote] I know a couple of women who love the male body but don‘t fantasize about a man touching them or something.

OMG. Isn't that something!

R16, bitch. Do you know where the fuck you're posting?

Because I think you think that you're posting at Reddit.

And you're not.

[quote] And maybe they are not as hung up on sex and labels as many men seem to be.

You better get the fuck out of my face.

Right now, sweetie.

R18

The question was asked and the correct answer is the correct answer even if you don’t like the answer. Or are we supposed to lie here?

Woman most woman in case you are not familiar with them are very fluid as far as sex. Straight woman given the opportunity will often have sex with other woman. It’s just not a big deal. It’s certainly not seen as a negative or something to be ashamed of or explained away.

It’s actually encouraged and desired by many men to watch or be a part of. Sex is after all enjoyable.

Woman just dont seem to be as hung up on labels as men are. Men could generate dozens of threads asking the important questions about the labels re. sex we give to ourselves or others.

These woman are just enjoying the sex and don’t seem to give a darn about debating labels like the men of DL do..

Maybe god made them this way :-)

These fakers do a disservice to the entire gay community but lesbians are having a particularly odd cultural moment right now and the antics of these bored, attention-seeking women are particularly harmful to other (actually gay) women.

R20, you sound like a stupid straight bitch.

You better get the fuck out of my gay male face.

Right now.

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"Chicks?"

Really?

What decade is it? What century?

Why is this garbage on a gay website? It reads like Ben Shapiro wrote it.

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R17 Sorry for English not being my first language, I guess.

To tittilate straight men. Guys get off on invading the reluctant pussy of a lesbian.

Over the decades I must have interviewed over 75 different swinger couples either individually or together. These were all straight identifying couples.

At a traditional advertised swingers party virtually every one of the woman said had sex with another woman. A very small few did not.

As far as the men not one ever said they had sex with another man at one of these traditional swinger parties ( what happens at home and not at a public gathering might be different)

I am surprised in this day that any well informed person would be all that surprised or argue about this.

The other thing you do not traditionally see at swinger parties is anal sex between anyone.

[quote]Females, even actual lesbians, will never understand or experience true homophobia like actual gay men do.

I reckon they do OK with that in Muslim countries, R6. "True homophobia" isn't worse than "true misogyny".

[quote]Straight woman given the opportunity will often have sex with other woman.

Let me guess: You're basing this theory on porn, aren't you?

If you exclude societal pressures and persecution, more people would likely not be as rigid in their sexuality.

They do it to titillate straight men, who enjoy the idea of having sex with "kinky" women who will be willing to participate in threesomes and engage in same sex activities in order to excite their man. This provides them with attention and makes them feel transgressive, daring and important, while not really risking any aspect of their very conventional lives.

It is also part of the Pick-me Girl phenomenon: by claiming to be bi or queer, they are signalling to straight men that they are open-minded, "cool" and willing to do whatever it takes to please a man, unlike other girls who demand commitment, have sexual hang ups and don't put their boyfriend on a pedestal. It's pathetic, if you think about it objectively.

This whole "straight guy finding two chicks together = hot and edgy" shit needs to end. It was boring, lame, and tired in the 1990s, and it's even more boring, lame, and tired in 2023.

R16 is correct

One study showed that women - straight women - got more aroused looking at naked pictures of women than naked pictures of men. So why do you think they're all lying if they say they're attracted to women?

A hot straight girl being “bi” for clout or edginess is so 2002. It’s 2024. We’re all pansexual.

Take it from a Millennial. I knew tons of stupid bitches who all said they were bi back in the 2000s. Guess what? Every last one of them is married to men now.

R36

Let me put your mind at ease so you can stop worrying about the sex activities of a FFM 3 some. Most of the 3 somes straight couples have are going to be MMF not FFM.

The MMF can often be seen as a more erotic experience. And it’s so much easier to put together. You would not even need to visit a straight hook up forum to get many men saying they would like to be a 3rd in a MMF 3 some, .

Those types ruin everything. As somebody who’s had a genuine interest in the occult for over 30 years that has not been a triviality for me I am disgusted to see them turning up everywhere proclaiming they’re witches and know all. It disgusts me.

And then there's fat, ugly chicks who haven't had a fuck in decades deciding that they're non-binary.

Sweetie, nobody cares. Deal with your psych issues.

That's true, R42, it's not that they are actually non-binary, that would be fine. The real issue is that no one has ever wanted to fuck them.

They're actually incels.

two reasons: Mental health issues and isolation during covid (where they could feed off each other's youtube videos and Tiktoks)

This straight chick would like to know herself.

I suspect it's mostly snow flakey "aren't I special" idiocy. They think it makes them either more interesting or they get oppresion points. There are some that are genuinely exploring their sexuality which is fair though "exploring" hardly means just reading queer books and watching Heartbreaker....you'd have to at least try dating other women before I buy that.

Alot of teen girls are also scared of the peen....plain and simple. Especially the z-ers and even young millenials, they're completely under sexed and prudish....they'll talk a shit load about who they want to fuck but they wont fuck anyone.

I know an ugly “non binary” girl in her 20s who has only ever been with men and lives with some equally disgusting guy. She always bitches about how her family doesn’t accept her because she’s non binary. It’s so bizarre. I think some people really get off on feeling like a victim

I don't understand why the gay men here are so obsessed with women. You guys think more about women than I do!

I went to college with a girl who claimed to be pansexual even though she only dated men.

“This is my truth!”

Desperate for attention, I assume.

Why were all the teen heart throbs so feminine looking? Leonardo was a gorgeous as a young man who looked like a beautiful young girl. The majority of the hugely successful teen idols are pretty like that.

Because pre-teen girls were afraid of sex so they objectified the young men who were non-threatening. As they got older they grew out of it and moved on to adult males or females or whatever. These pretenders today can't seem to move out of that pre-sexual pre-teen stage and are wallowing in it long past its sell-by date.

Arrested development. They should seek help.

Women just have different arousal patterns than men. Weird that some people freak out over trans people in sports because "women are different than men" but we can't accept sexual differences, so gay men assume all women claiming to be bi are lying

[quote] Unraveling the mystery of female desire

Talk about a headline unlikely to titillate the average DLer.

More about sexual differences in men and women. Women with a high sex drive tend to be bi, whereas the higher a man's sex drive is, the more likely he is to be totally gay or totally straight

R20 And these same women wouldn’t give a bisexual man the time of day.

Just like men play a part in embracing women’s bisexuality, women play a part in rejecting a man’s bisexuality.

MOST, and yes, MOST women only think women can be bisexual or acceptably bisexual.

[quote]The fact that females/TIF's are on Grindr is a prime example of female homophobia and narcissism.

Women are on Grinder now?

I am so glad I am old. - Elder Gay

[quote]MOST, and yes, MOST women only think women can be bisexual or acceptably bisexual.

That bears repeating. My partners niece insists you refer to her as Queer. She dated another girl for a few months in between her 3 marriages all to men. She just had a baby too. She insists her husband even calls her queer. The thing is when I talked to her about their relationship she stated that allowed her to sleep with other woman if she wants. When I ask can he do the same with men. She got sort of snippy, "oh, no he's not gay."

When I pushed farther on that statement her response was "it's just different with woman. A woman can sleep with a woman and still be bisexual, but a guy who dose that is gay,...I don't know any straight guys that would do that unless they were gay".

The double standard she held men to went right over her head.

R37 Define aroused.

Women are envious.

Like for example - I’ll bet women would get more excited over a woman holding a designer bag they want than over a man pulling up in a luxury sports car. They’d choose the bag over the man and his car.

To me it’s obvious women are more aroused and find women more attractive because ultimately they’re envious or want to look like them.

A lot of women get “aroused” by the Kardashians. That’s why the Kardashians are billionaires.

And women drive whores.

It’s not men making the Kardashians and Cardi B and all this prostitute imagery figures to the bank.

It’s women!

You want to see what men are looking at? Go look up Sara Jay.

Abella Danger is #1 on PornHub right now. Most women wouldn’t find her that attractive. She looks pretty basic in her videos too. I don’t think she’s had any work done either.

You would think it would be some big wide breast implant / ass implant looking like a drag queen version of a Kardashian. But that’s actually what women like.

Sara Jay is one of the most popular porn stars out and she looks like she could be Bette Midler and Ethel Merman’s sister.

Women wouldn’t get aroused over her. They would get aroused over who they want to look like. They probably get aroused by Taylor Swift cause they want to be her.

So that study is bullshit to me lol

Sara Jay? A dog! a dog with tits.

This is Sarah Jay the porn star.

She's older, fat and has big fake tits, her face isn't so hot either.

Mom Bods with tits. Straight guys are pretty basic. Any guy who has listened to their bro chatter in a locker room has head the age old adage that you marry the pretty one, have sex with the ugly one. This is because the ugly ones put out and do anything sexual to please men. Their only way of keeping them around. Very beautiful women are not as expected to get very nasty. Their thing is being arm candy.

Maybe that gets boring for them or maybe they see really good looking woman as something they don't want to soil so to speak. The mother of THEIR child. Dont shit where you eat kind of thing. It would explain why straight men with pretty wives often get caught with an ugly hooker or doing the maid.

She has man-face, r62.

R47

Have you heard about the new radio program where men who don’t drive cars and no nothing about repairing cars , they don’t even ride in cars ,they walk everywhere or ride a bicycle, offer insight into driving and repairing and modifying cars?

Not Click Not Clack I am told is the name of this insanely stupid comedy show.

Know not no

I realize how concerned some are about this sort of thing. So this correction is not for the mentally healthy and sane among us. But for those others.

Well r47, it women only come to our attention when they are doing something that invades our space or tries to co-opt our identity. Most woman are not Queer. They just like the sound of it. Edgy, cool, different. But don't be a hypocrite if you are. Then we will call you out on that.

R67

Good for you calling people out on an anonymous Internet forum because of their flirting or sex activities is more important than most sane people might think it is.

Keep up the good work

Women are herd creatures. If one bleats loudly enough others follow her around.

Bleat = "I'm bisexual because I don't care."

Good for you R68 that you have time on an anonymous board that you think what you are doing is going to change anyone's mind about anything other than proving how bitter and touchy women can be when you call them out on their actions.

Look, you missed the point completely with your snarky comment. I dont care what women do with their sex life. What I care about is invading the one I have, or the private spaces for gay men to find each other. That's the point about the fake Queer thing strait women are doing right now. Would you be ok if straight guys started calling themselves Lesbians because they love woman and like sharing their feminine side with them?

R70

If it’s a “private “ space the membership of that private speaker should decide who gets to join the club. And if they want a big sign saying No Woman they should put their big boy pants on man up and put the sign up for all to see.

And if they will not make a public stand for a “private” space or club then they should instead come to DL and whine,

"Weird that some people freak out over trans people in sports because "women are different than men" but we can't accept sexual differences, so gay men assume all women claiming to be bi are lying"

That HAS to takethe cake of the dumbest thing I have read on the internet this week. The fuck does bio men having unfair advantages in sports when competing against women have to do with men and women having different sexual behaviors. Both are correct. Men and women TEND to be different in many ways.

Oh please R71, I am not putting up with your double standard bull crap. You know darn well if the shoe were on the other foot you would act differently. How welcoming are lesbian bars or clubs when a straight man just wants to enter and hang out there? We all know the answer. Yet lesbian bars don't have a sign up either saying no men allowed.

Mass wave of histrionic and narcicisstic personality disorders.

[quote]That HAS to take the cake of the dumbest thing I have read on the internet this week.

Yeah, I was trying to find the logic in that post but there was none.

r73 there are no lesbian bars left.

Straight people bought them all and changed them.

Seriously, none exist.

Lesbians are cheap and don't go out and/or spend enough money to support lesbian bars or clubs. They can maybe handle a gay bar going lesbian one night a week or more like one night a month.

It's not due to straight people buying and changing them, you idiot. They failed before they were sold, that's why they were sold. Stop blaming other people for lesbian bar failures. It's so fucking weak and dumb.

You didn't spend enough money in those bars for them to make a profit. End of.

There is one in Long Beach R76. Google Executive Suite.

This week on Vice news.

[quote]Why? Because sex is fun and enjoyable for most

You are obviously not a straight woman who has sex with men.

I don’t agree there were never lesbian bars! In the 80’s when I lived in Dallas (of all places) there was an extremely popular one called Unicorn. We went on nights when they allowed men (some nights they didn’t, this was in the pre-trans days) and it was usually a mob scene. There was also a lesbian bar that opened around ‘85, called Sue Ellen’s (around the corner from JR’s… yes in Dallas) that lasted until just a few years ago I think.

When I moved to NYC in 1990 there were many lesbian bars. The listing section in HX was huge! Too many to name? Cubby Hole, Diane’s, Henrietta Hudson, Clit Club, and many others.

God knows about other cities worldwide, and other decades and eras.

I know gay men spend money different than lesbians, and the “vibes” of these places are different, but to claim there have never really been lesbian bars is flat wrong.

R81 Thank you! I was like, “…wha?”

Uh-oh!

R81 As far as lesbian bars went in NYC in the 90s, I can’t believe you didn’t mention Crazy Nanny’s!

Haven’t girls always wished they were boys?

r81, there WERE lesbian bars. There are none anymore. Even the Executive Suite in Long Beach caters to men and trans now.

r79, why is a woman with a mustache doing a piece on lesbian bars? Is she trans? If so, she's not a lesbian.

We are in a culture of complaint, a grievance culture. In order to get attention on social media, you need to be oppressed, misunderstood.

On top of that, we’re constantly being told we’re pampered and privileged if we are in the majority — white, straight, Christian.

So what better for a straight white female than to announce that she is (for instance) non-binary, No I’m not a normie blonde chick. I use a different pronoun and have an identity that needs a flow chart to comprehend, and not even that helps much.

People always misgender and commit literal violence against me. Poor me!

[quote]Even the Executive Suite in Long Beach caters to men and trans now.

It's still a Lesbian bar. Now you know how gay men have felt for the last 30 years of woman invading them with their bachelorette parties and bringing their straight boyfriends there because the music is better and drinks WERE cheaper.

And in LA there are two new bars for you "ladies".

Queen Victoria of England declared that lesbians didn’t exist in 1885, she even tried to codify her belief into permanent law! Clearly she was way ahead of the curve.

Every smart sissy needs a sister in crime!

Oh who gives a fuck why straight or lesbian women do anything? As long as they stay the fuck away from us, they can do whatever the hell they want.

If they go to their own bars and spend enough to keep them going concerns, good. Have fun.

Well stated outrage in the above

Why should a gay man have to share space with someone he does not want to be around? Like the KKK or The Proud Boys sometime you just don’t want others around who don’t share your exact same interests and types while you drink and play in a public bar.,

^ In need of medication

r94, you just answered your own question. "in a public bar" means it's open to everyone.

Gay bars in general have been more or less disappearing for the last twenty years. There were usually less lesbian-specific bars than there were gay bars (male) in any given urban area, so with it all slowly fading away, the lesbian bars are going to go faster.

Although there appears to be a resurgence, lately.

kids these days. . . .

[quote] "in a public bar" means it's open to everyone.

Well sort of but not really. How many woman only gyms are out there still considered public but if a man tried to join, there would be hell to pay.

Unless the straight man stated he identified as a woman. Then they'd have to let him join, R99

Either way R100 both have a penis and that's all it matters with woman when they feel they have the right to a double standards.

And they *always* believe they have the right to have double standards.

Try enforcing child support orders on women. Statistically they fail to support their children just as often as men do. It's the same with all non-custodial parents. With women it's much harder to get them to pay what they owe. It's as if they think only men have to pay child support.

Because they’re jealous, op.

Postmodernism is fully the basis of the young point of view - they don’t consider things like queer or gay to have literal or technical meanings, they’re symbols that can be freely used to express anything at any time.