What Diana, Princess of Wales Did For AIDS still brings Me To Tears

Diana forever.

OP, where's my Goddamned tribute? I married a man who was a part-time poofter!

She was so young in that picture; her critics should remember she was barely out of her teens when she became a part of the royal family. Her periodic shenanigans should be foegiven. She was a good person.

[quote] yes she was probably borderline.

What? Her husband ignored her and preferred to constantly gad about with an *ugly horse* of a woman. When she charmed audiences during her royal duties that same husband resented it, and complained and accused.

And she wasn’t allowed to seek other friendship or romance herself, except furtively.

Borderline?

Go ahead, pull the other one!

Not borderline because of Charles. She was strong in the marriage and fucking too right, she was mad, impudent, outraged. The borderline would have happened because of her father abusing and divorcing her mother and gainiing custody of the children, just to be an asshole. It was Diana's childhood and narc father than set her up to be bulilmic and it was her childhood that also prepared her to be neglected by her husband. I mean no malice when I say she was probably borderline - she was horribly neglected in childhood.

In spite of or because of her horrible childhood, she was a badass and a brilliant humanitarian.

Agreed. She seemed very kind when it came to illness and children.

She was an incredible, strong, smart woman, too good for Charles. Too good for the Royal Family. She brought that family into the modern era and cemented them in the modern era as relevant. She IS the true royal in that family.

[quote]She was monumentally good. Camilla is a snippet, a shadow of what that woman was. It is exactly because she suffered that she could give herself over to the suffering - and she gave all of herself to others. I miss Diana every day.

Queen! Mary! Queen Bloody Mary!

The Royals also learnt from this about how to use charity to improve your image. For a long time any criticism or dislike about Camilla was met by outrage from her fans about "have you not SEEN how much she does for domestic violence charities". And most appearances or speeches by the Royals involve them pushing their charities and their credentials as great humanitarians.

OMG I'M GOING TO SCREAM. 🚗 🚑👸⚰️😱

Exactly, R9. Diana brought them into the muck and made it royal to get involved with truly urgent and intense humanitarian concerns. Camilla and her rape kits would not exist if Diana hand not shaken the hand of AIDS patients.

I suspect that it’s difficult for those too young to remember the 1980’s to realize what she did was special. It wasn’t just being in the right place at the right time. She reached out and single-handedly made an impact on the public’s perception of AIDS.

[quote]I suspect that it’s difficult for those too young to remember the 1980’s to realize what she did was special. It wasn’t just being in the right place at the right time. She reached out and single-handedly made an impact on the public’s perception of AIDS.

This is absolutely true. A princess not only visiting AIDS wards, but actually touching and hugging sufferers, was a revolutionary act at a time when even some health professionals wouldn't be in the same room with an AIDS patient.

She also did great work drawing attention to land mines in Africa.

[Quote]A princess not only visiting AIDS wards, but actually touching and hugging sufferers, was a revolutionary act

Good lord. You Dianastans are exhausting in your worship of a woman dead for almost 30 years.

Actually, royalty touching the sick was done for centuries.

[Quote]The royal touch: Scrofula and defining monarchy

not the same thing r14. What Diana did was indeed revolutionary and changed the perception of AIDS patients.

[quote]In spite of or because of her horrible childhood

Poor, little rich girl! 🙄

[quote]Good lord. You Dianastans are exhausting in your worship of a woman dead for almost 30 years.

And yet you worship the Royal Family most of which had been dead for over 1,000 years. Pot meet Kettle.

Oh please, r12, you can be an adult and still question saint Diana. She was a privileged woman who did some good. She did this for her image as well, she died in an stupid accident for which she was also complicot. Her legacy, besides some beaded dresses, are a couple of mindless children that occupy datalounge threads more than necessarily (and in sometimes respond to those threads and am blaming her for that as well).

Unlike the Brits that have been bamboozled by the Royal Family's PR firm for the last 30 years, to transform a horse into the queen, the rest of the world was spared that campaign and see it for what it really is. Princess Diana was a GIFT to the Royal family in so many ways as previously mentioned. From making them appear more in touch with the people to charity work, glamor and giving birth the a future king of England. No amount of rewriting history to demonize her and pretend Camellia is anything more than a wild boar with lipstick is going to work on the rest of us.

[quote]not the same thing [R14]. What Diana did was indeed revolutionary and changed the perception of AIDS patients.

Camella has changed what you can glam up a horse right into Buckingham Palace. Doesn't she get credit for that?

Nobody is calling her a saint. But she rose above her time. That’s unusual. And that legacy is impressive BECAUSE she wasn’t all that special. But she did something special. I’m not a particular fan of hers, but to not recognize that achievement is almost perverse.

R12

The people's Princess. She is flying high above, I'm sure.

Not trying to start a thing or get greyed out but I sincerely don't think Diana would have liked MM. At all. But I don't think it would have come to that because I feel that Harry would have ended up with Chesly Davy if his mother had lived. He and Chelsy would be managing a wildlife preserve in Botswana raising little Mowglis in the bush, happy as a lark.

I don't even know if there'd be an MM as we know her, considering she took so many moves from the dead Saint Diana playbook. Had Diana lived, she would not have been canonized and her legacy would not have been poachable and weaponized in the way it ended up being for MM.

Di was a great positive in this world. Someone once said she was addicted to being nice....and just loved how much u get back by being nice. U totally get it. Its like that Friends episode where Phoebe wants to be nice but Joey says there's no such thing as a selfless act, as u get something in return....and its true...and she knew that...If only more people put this into action. So what if u get something back from being nice...it doesn't negate the nice things u do...

I think people also need to understand that Diana married into "The Firm" at such a young age but didn't have much of a support system from her own family. Her mom left the family when she was young and lived in Argentina. Her dad remarried Raine who was a dismissive stepmother and had no room for his kids in their lives.

She really only had her sister and younger brother - but I don't believe either were much comfort.

Imagine being 19 and being thrust into this life with no guidebook and - what the hell do you know about YOURSELF at 19, let alone to be in all the awful UK gossip columns and papers.

She wasn't without her faults, but she certainly tried her best to do what she could. And very few people were ever visiting AIDS patients - particularly not people of her level.

There's a lot to be said about her character. AND I love that she gave her 2nd son some FUCK YOU money to get the hell out of that place. She knew what his life would be like, being #2 and then being sidelined forever once the eldest child had children.

Prince Harry made the right choice - and was able to do that because Diana saw his future.

What Diana did was VERY big news at the time and helped begin to turn the tide of hatred and resentment and "othering" directed towards gay men at the time who were essentially treated like lepers and hidden away to die because they deserved it. It was a very brave thing she did and I clearly remember it. It shut a lot of people up who didn't know what to do or say.

Diana had some very savvy PR advisors to guide and choreograph her Saintly moments. Spend a few minutes talking to some sick kids and the press cuts her slack on how spends the rest of the day snorting coke with any one of dozens married men.

Anyway R27...

Camilla has championed a cause more important than HIV/AIDS:

Osteoporosis

R25, are you mixing up her mother with Fergie’s mother?

[quote]Yes she was mischief

What language was this translated from?

I'm glad we're having a thread on Diana, we've never discussed her on DL before.

R23 is a klan granny, racist MM obsessive hater

Ok, 33. Sure.

The truth is MM is from Hollywood, she's totally self-absorbed, and she is not and never was in it for altruistic reasons. But racism, yes. Whatever.

Oh please, MM is not the first Hollywood celeb to be picked up by the Royal Family. Yes she's typical Hollywood actress but the Royals are also typical racist elitists.

Diana's mother never lived in Argentina, that was Fergie's mother who was also a whore like her daughter. Diana's mother lived as a recluse in some remote part of England or Scotland. She, too, was a whore.