Naomi Campbell and Linda Evangelista Locked in Feud, Unfollow Each Other on Instagram

Maybe they didn’t recognize each other.

I don’t know anything about a supposed feud, but despite myself, I felt really sorry for Linda Evangelista while watching their new Apple documentary. Yes, yes, she is a super rich former super model and I'm sure was extremely entitled and bitchy and everything else back in the day ($10,000 a day, etc.). That said, she seems to have gone through the most out of the four featured women (the Coolsculpting botching AND breast cancer plus lifelong lung issues I did not know about), and she seems kind of -- broken.

She honestly seems to feel that she is lesser than compared to the other women, who have not been botched or had serious health issues and are still working, etc. I never appreciated Evangelista's looks back then for whatever reason, but I realize now how uniquely beautiful she was. And she still is! But you can see that she is really hiding her body because of the whole Coolsculpting disaster, etc. All of that supermodel swagger is just gone. You can say she brought it on herself re the Coolsculpting part, but honestly, that procedure is supposed to be non-invasive and very low risk, so the fact that she had that apparently quite rare reaction seems more random than anything else. And imagine the pressure put on you to not "let your looks go" when you are considered one of the most beautiful women in the world. I sure can't!

That said, I felt like they REALLY soft-pedaled some things in this series. I mean. Naomi Campbell wasn't just "fighting internal anger" and dealing with Daddy issues when she attacked "the help" with her cellphone and abused airplane crews and other people she clearly saw as beneath her. Gimme a break. That woman was simply not nice.

And I had completely forgotten that Cindy Crawford and Richard Gere were married! LOL. HOW did I forget that??

Of all of them, I think Christy Turlington seems the least affected and most -- happy? Normal? Nice?

I don’t care what folks say, Naomi is like a fun villain. She’s gorgeous, confident, and still a bad bitch!!

She can throw my cellphone anytime she likes.

I read that Naomi is a huge fan of Kenya Moore. They have the same shit stirring energy.

I heard it WAS Linda because she said clumsy things about Naomi's struggle with racial bias in her bookings and moreover, beauty contracts, and Linda claimed to have been somehow a hero about it.

I am loving this series and assume there will be more seasons. My heart goes out to Linda. She seems like she's had a rough go of it. Naomi is everything you'd expect. Cindy is who she is. Kinda boring but whatever. My favorite is and will always be Christy Turlington. I don't think there is a more beautiful woman on the planet. She is absolutely flawless. And she seems normal. I love her.

Yes Christy came off really well in that series. So gorgeous and seems nice and grounded.

Poor Linda. Seems very fragile.

For someone who is famous for being vivacious and sizzling on camera, Cindy comes off as so cold in this series. An ice queen. Never has a celebrity’s true personality seemed so at odds with their public image.

Truly heartbreaking to know Linda did not fully enjoy the peak of her career because of her marriage to that asshole. Fuck that guy for continuing to deny he is an abuser. 15 other women came forward to accuse him and he’s still gaslighting them! He's vile.

Honestly Linda was the highlight of the whole Supermodels documentary to me! She was honest and vulnerable, and shared so much of her story that must have been painful for her. She talks about her marriage, her history of breast cancer, and undergoing a double mastectomy, and how she was left traumatized by the way CoolSculpting disfigured her. It was so heartbreaking, and I’m so glad Linda is thriving now and enjoying being a mom.

People rhapsodize about Christy Turlington’s beauty but I just don’t see it. She’s undoubtedly very attractive, but her looks remind me of Jessica Biel, or any number of other generically pretty all American girls. Linda and Naomi are much more striking to my eye.

"She’s undoubtedly very attractive, but her looks remind me of Jessica Biel, or any number of other generically pretty all American girls." - Christy is from El Salvador, I'll have you know!

R11 And? There’s plenty of white girls in South America.

Cindy is a lying bitch. Complaining about Oprah making her feel just TERRIBLE for having her stand up in front of Oprah's audience (the horror), and then a year later Cindy poses nude for Playboy with her hand next to her cooter. Skank. She's actually friends with that ridiculous pig, lisa rinna

Linda - goes on and on about her CoolScultping disaster, when she really just gained weight.

Naomi - she is and always has been trash. A real piece of shit.

Linda and Christy ruled print, Naomi ruled the runway. Naomi doesn’t translate in print.

R13 Cindy’s outrage about when she felt “objectified” seemed selective, to put it mildly.

No one with such an obvious a nose job should be considered anywhere near a classic beauty R10. Turlington always looked like a more sculpted Julia Roberts to me.

Met Christy a few years ago. What's incredibly impressive about her is how smart and thoughtful she is.

A mutual friend introduced us. She put out her hand. "Hi, I'm Christy." She did not assume I knew who she was, nor did she care to. And when we talked, I realized that she has so much more than her looks going for her.

Hard to imagine what their lives have been like. We see the glamor, yet they would’ve experienced being around absolute creeps. I don’t care if they unfollow each other, I hope they love their lives. The 90’s was still the era of absolute letches.

Honestly, I wouldn’t even know if Christy Turlington were in the room with me. I find her that unremarkable.

Two of the most useless people on earth.

Julie Chen was there?

[quote] For someone who is famous for being vivacious and sizzling on camera, Cindy comes off as so cold in this series. An ice queen.

Ah, interesting take. I’ve always found her very business like. A bit dry, but occasionally snarky and sometimes really snotty. In the doc I felt she was careful to not be too revealing. There was a time back when she was younger where she was pretty open about her insecurities and disappointments. It just seemed like she was holding back.

I remember reading somewhere that once Linda’s career took off she spent very little time with Gerald. By the time she got divorced, it was merely a formality. It’s a shame nothing can be done surgically to remove the lumps so at least she wouldn’t have to hide her body so much. Her whole vibe was vulnerable to the point of being child-like. Very broken as someone already said.

I have always found Christy to be unbelievably beautiful, but dull. Very dull. It’s because she’s so steady and sane. It’s a good thing though and she seems like a genuinely good person. Very comfortable with who she is today. I remember she said about the infamous 10,000 dollar a day quote that it was just common sense to not brag like that about your good fortune. She said that models are already seen as being unfairly advantaged so why rub people’s faces in it?

Naomi’s vibe is the same as it’s always been. She has always come across to me as being dynamic but very defensive, snobbish and aloof. It was amusing that she blamed her reputation of being difficult solely on her fall out with Casablancas. When she talked about the famous men she was close to in her life like Nelson Mandela etc, it was all about how they loved and protected her, just me me me. Nothing about their personalities or how extraordinary it is that she got to know such interesting people through her career. She seems totally self-absorbed, but it’s not surprising given how long she has been modeling now.

[quote]Christy is from El Salvador, I'll have you know!

[quote][R11] And? There’s plenty of white girls in South America

I agree with R20. Yes, these women became famous during a time when consumerism was exploding, the beauty industry expanded at a frenzied pace and the fashion industry was dominated by truly talented designers (Givenchy, Lacroix, the AMAZING Ferré, Lagerfeld, Montana, Saint Laurent, Mügler, etc), but that is all there is to them. None of them have any talent beyond being photogenic and lucky. That's it. The mystique that was built around them was nothing more than marketing, because using these models was cheaper than paying legitimate celebrities, such as actors and singers, for publicity campaigns - and as their fame increased, these models drove more people to buy products, inspired by the fabricated ideal that if you are thin and look presentable enough, then you will be special even if you don't have any other qualities worthy of interest.

Linda's problems are very minor compared to those faced by most people, who don't have millions of dollars on which to fall back. The fact that she is devastated by not being the centre of attention and is constantly wallowing in self pity, just goes to show how sheltered her life has been. Moreover, she could find purpose doing something for someone other than herself... You know, as a suggestion.

Naomi is a glorified chav from Lambeth, and she acts the part. If her ambitious, greedy mother hadn't groomed her into a modelling career, she'd be living in a council estate and would have 10 children by 10 different men, who'd terrorize the neighbourhood with their antisocial behaviour. Still, I will give her this: taking her background into account, she has been impressively shrewd with both her money and the way in which she's financially profited from the... Let's call them "friends" who have "enjoyed" her "company" throughout the years.

Christy Turlington has always been surprisingly reserved and level-headed, as many people have mentioned. It's nice to know that she is also humble about being nothing more than a clotheshorse.

Cindy's appeal is that she is an all-American girl-next-door: generically pretty, tall, leggy, sporty, simly and without much depth. She was glamourized for her modelling work, but I think that her dry, boring and cold personality reflects who she is quite well. The only difference between her and many other suburban trophy wives is that she is wealthier and has famous friends, not to mention that she can aid her unremarkable nepo-baby children in their do-nothing, useless careers.

[quote]Naomi is an icon but I get the feeling she’s a very easy woman to fall out with.

So insightful.

In other unexpected, breaking news, getting hit in the head by a thrown telephone hurts.

R2 lest we forget her asshole ex-husband Gérald Marie of Elite.

Christy is extremely rare in that she went to college as her career was winding down and got a degree. I think she also got a masters in public health. She made a documentary about women's lack of access to obstetric health care in developing countries and stared a charity. Very different from the others.

[quote] I read that Naomi is a huge fan of Kenya Moore.

Actually, she is a Porsha fan. She told Andy Cohen "keep Porsha, fire Kenya". And then Kenya said "that's why she's not a tv executive". I love Kenya and Naomi.

Naomi is the most beautiful and stunning. Christy Turlington is the most grounded and substantial. They were all gorgeous. Christy and Naomi still. Linda fell apart and Cindy looks hard.

Not being American, I knew who each of the supermodels was but I never had a strong sense of their personalities before I watched the recent show. It struck me that Linda was much dumber than the others, and that she is really quite disturbed. Even IF the Coolsculpting made lumps appear all over her, she could still have worn a big-sleeved billowy silk shirt, tucked into some beautifully tailored pants or a maxi-skirt with boots, and we wouldn't have seen anything amiss except that sure, she's gained weight. This is obvious whether she dresses sanely or clutches a huge coat like Napoleon, but she doesn't seem to get that. She kept putting one hand inside the coat, but I backtracked and checked and there's nothing wrong with that hand or forearm.

She seems to have body dysmorphia and such an extreme case of "I'm nobody now I'm not young and beautiful" that she couldn't relate to anyone, let alone the other three. Whereas Cindy and Christy seemed to have had, you know, adult lives, and Naomi had to a certain extent. At least she was doing a few good works, and had stepped in to help Galliano and Marc Jacobs when they needed it. None of the three of them thinks about herself 24/7 any more, whereas I fear Linda does, but she no longer likes what she dwells on. That's really sad.

I had forgotten Christy is married to Ed Burns.

I felt bad for Linda in the final shot of the series wearing a giant trench coat while the other 3 were in form fitting clothes. Poor thing.

I always laugh when I think about Cindy Crawford's quote about Madonna's Sex book--"I don't want to see any more naked pictures of her. If you have issues with your father, take it up with him, not the rest of the world."

The series took me back to high school and college. My artsy friends and I were SO into these women and into fashion. It was a nice throwback.

I still love Cindy. We’re from the same small-ish Illinois town and I think that’s partly why. Someone else here said she was friend with Lisa Rinna. Of course they’re friends. Same vibe: Hustle baby, hustle. She (Cindy) and Christy have carried themselves very well all these years. Christy more so. I feel bad for Linda. She was stunning and then the two dreaded C’s hit: Cancer and CoolSculpt. Hopefully she finds peace and healing. Naomi? I forwarded through a lot of her scenes because she’s a fucking cunt and nothing she can say or do will change my opinion, except her dying in a self-ignited grease fire.

Naomi got a Pretty Little Things campaign, which is odd, since their target audience are young influencers- their store ion Melrose is bright pink with a giant unicorn statue.

R34, I know a woman in her 40s who shops from Pretty Little Thing. Not exclusively, but she'll occasionally wear something from them. The over-abundance of polyester products is what stops her wearing more of their stuff. They seem to have some basics that aren't all skimpy like I thought they'd sell.

Owww r24, but enjoyable read.

R32, I remember reading a quote from Cindy where she asked why Jennifer Lopez was so comfortable having a large ass. She asked, “Is that an ethnic thing?” I think even back then that comment was considered a bit offensive. But I love what she said about Madonna.

R36, for some reason, my comment and the one you listed remind me that apparently Cindy hit on Jenna Jameson, hardcore. Apparently, she even purred in her ear or something. That's wild for me to imagine.

In my day, we called it "uppity." We had a couple at the White House. But not for long.

R39 Hahahahaha Oh HEE HEE HEE hahahaha oh Hahahahaha Oh HEE HEE HEE hahahaha oh Hahahahaha Oh HEE HEE HEE hahahaha oh Hahahahaha Oh HEE HEE HEE hahahaha

Okay, another Cindy anecdote. I saw a clip on TV where she was dining out with some SNL people including Chris Farley. They opened their menus and Cindy said to Chris, you’ll be ordering this *gesturing to the entire menu*. Chris gave this exaggerated-you’re really not as funny as you think you are-laugh. She really was such a turn off in that clip. It’s not because she was being insensitive, but it was such a stupid immature joke. The kind of humor a person her age should have long outgrown.

Naomi did one Avon ad. A shame because her presence was so important as a beautiful dark skinned woman with decidedly West African features. She could have been used to tap into that market instead of using black models with “acceptable” dark skin and chiseled Caucasian features. They are making up for it today but an opportunity was missed with Naomi.

People also forget that Linda is in her eighties, at least!

I have a very wealthy, connected friend from Malibu who swears up and down that Cindy is gay. She says it’s an open secret in the community and that Cindy and her husband have an arrangement. I was shocked at first, but watching this series… honestly, I see it.

R44 It would explain the brief mention of the makeup artist “roommate.” When Cindy mentioned she quickly thereafter moved out and got her own place, it sounded like she was describing a breakup. Her daughter Kaia is also openly bisexual.

Remember when Cindy and Richard Gere took put that newspaper ad denying all the gay rumors about them, insisting they were deeply in love with each other?

They divorced not long after.

You have to wonder why the gay gossip about them bothered them so much.

And don't forget what Jenna Jameson said about Cindy. She said that Cindy blatantly hit on her at a party.

Naomi just walked for D&G, and although I know she’s had many procedures and is essentially bald under the weave, I must admit - she’s remarkably well preserved. Girl knows how to keep up appearances.

R48 Somewhere, Janice Dickinson is on a rooftop, threatening to jump. The crisis negotiator is en route.

Is it regarding Linda’s deformity?

LOL - but, they really respect each other and value all the time and experiences they had together.

Sure is R50. Sources claim Naomi couldn’t stifle her laughter when she saw Linda’s moon face and bulging body, draped in caftan. It got out of control and poor Linda was mortified. Naomi as yet hasn’t apologized.

R49 Tyra is up there too. They’re holding hands.

I really love Naomi. I do. She is beautiful and confident and seems fun but come on all that bad behavior and assaulting the help. She would have been canceled if white.

Does Naomi mention getting busted smuggling blood diamonds and lying about it? Shady bitch.

R55 Blood diamonds? Oh no now I’m about to not be a fan.

Naomi also allegedly has connections in sex trafficking.

Here you go R56

Holy crap, someone throw the phone! 📞

This story is even better. Naomi was flirting with the ‘former warlord’ and then gets some blood diamonds given to her. Shady. Bitch.

I remember a few were involved in a restaurant called Fashion Cafe, a failed venture. One review stated : “With food like this, no wonder models are skinny”.

I guess her wealthy Russian boyfriend at the time used his connections to get her off!

[quote]Unfollow Each Other on Instagram

Yawn. Call me when the bitch-slapping starts.

“You see Cindy and Christy and Naomi, they’re flourishing and they’re beautiful and they can work forever… I’ve just been dealt so many blows,” she said.

Christy always had a strong family behind her (and has a seemingly solid marriage) and she got a bachelor’s degree and a master’s. Part of why she’s beautiful is that she gives back to the underserved. Her post-supermodel history is so beyond anyone else (except Renee Simonsen, who I believe has a PhD).

Mary.

I am so with so many others RE Christy: She's very attractive. But next to Naomi, Linda, Claudia and Helena? She's just too "normal" beautiful. Instead of otherworldly beautiful. Which isn't a bad thing! But I never quite got her as a supermodel.

I never thought Linda was beautiful.

R40 What kind of monster laughs at fashion models?

Linda looked completey different every time you'd see her. Every photo shoot, every runway show, every editorial spread, she never had the same look twice. A total chameleon. More than any of the others.

I really enjoyed this, happily binge watched the whole thing at once. I thought all of them were really impressive.

I think some of you have very set ideas about these women and misinterpreted some of the scenes.

I know the thing about Cindy and Oprah is all over the internet and social media but she’s not blaming Oprah for anything - she’s referring to the time. And it’s a starting point from her own personal trajectory of feeling like chattel to really taking control of her own career, doing House of Style, her own calendars and eventually busting out as a super. It’s a story and that moment easily sets up the fate that might’ve awaited her. And I don’t care what anybody says, Oprah asking her to do a twirl, well, it hasn’t dated well. Cindy Crawford is worth $400M today. It could’ve been a lot different, as it was for so many young women in that industry.

Naomi is Naomi. I thought the theme of her abandonment from her own father and her subsequent “adoption” of her by well-meaning men like designer Azzedine Alaïa and Nelson Mandela was very moving, as to how she overcame these issues and really flourished. These women are not the filmmakers, though they are executive producers on the series, but they’re not completely in control of the editorial, etc. Naomi demonstrated a real capacity to love and was moved by these relationships to help others and become a meaningful philanthropist. That’s a lot. More than most of you bitches will ever do. (And that Alaïa gown she wore for the final shot was gorgeous.)

Linda had breast cancer. Enough said. If you’ve lost a loved one to breast cancer, like I have, then you know this is like an entire era of a person’s life. And she’s a survivor. Whatever else she’s suffered is her business and she was brave enough to come forward and warn others about this CoolSculpting process - for every moment feeling like, “I was so stupid to do this to myself.” There was a lot of power seeing these women growing older and how they deal with aging, especially after being known globally, and probably on other planets, for their looks. They are still beautiful. I became more self-accepting just by watching them.

All of them do philanthropy. I was also really impressed the way they used their fame to promote smaller scale designers, as well as their grace in welcoming new generations of young women into the industry. I loved Naomi’s fashion initiative. Some of you forget they were young and frivolous and they had the fashion industry and the world by the balls. But they turned out all right.

They missed one of Naomi’s best moments, when she finished her week of community service and sauntered out in front of the press in her full, glamorous glory. I wish they’d included it. A lot of you don’t seem to understand that negative press attention takes on a life of its own and becomes a conversation in itself. Look how full of disinformation the media is today - has it ever been any different? Probably not. She was in control of that narrative by the end of that week and the press couldn’t help themselves because she gave them the moment they wanted in the end. That’s style.

I wish they’d honoured George Michael more since they seemed to be saying that it was the Freedom ‘90 video that really elevated them to the stratosphere in terms of status. And it kind of did. Maybe it was the only time their paths crossed; maybe it had an impact without really sealing a relationship with the artist. But I wish they’d honoured his contribution more.

While some of it is obviously setting a narrative or burnishing their reputations (might as well do it while they can), it was really enjoyable and SO ‘90s. I guess the ‘90s revival is upon us. It was bound to happen.

No one gets it, no one understands how hard we work, you guys! $10,000/day is NOTHING for what we do.

It’s nothing compared to what Bob Iger makes in a day. I guess it’s fine for men, huh R72?

Naomi is a megalomaniacal cunt. She came off the worst in The Super Models documentary recently released…mostly because she made herself out to be the second coming of Shirley Chisholm or something.

Apples and oranges, you spazzy weirdo at R73. But you knew that.

If you want to talk about Disney then you go and create a thread and we can talk about Disney over there.

Well, since I don’t talk to meth whores, I won’t need to meet you anywhere, R75.

Get some coolsculpting and throw a phone at it.

R48 did she go in and ask for “the Madonna”?

Cindy Crawford: Seems like she'd do almost anything for more fame and more money. I read Jenna Jameson's autobiography and I believe Cindy did hit on her. Her speaking voice is very flat, dull, and boring. The plastic surgery removed anything that was distinctive about her face. I believe that she and her husband are probably freaks.

Naomi Campbell: has a wound that will never heal. Hurt people hurt people. She's just like Kenya Moore. Needs constant stroking and coddling. Needs more realistic-looking wigs.

Linda Evangelista: Is she overweight on top of the problems caused by Cool Sculpting?

Christy Turlington: She probably has the best life of these four. She probably had the best life (of the four) before they all became uber-famous models.

They were probably feuding over who knew me best, the WORLD’s FIRST SUPERMODEL!!!!

[Quote] I wish they’d honoured George Michael more since they seemed to be saying that it was the Freedom ‘90 video that really elevated them to the stratosphere in terms of status. And it kind of did. Maybe it was the only time their paths crossed… R71

Linda was also in George’s video for Too Funky two years later so their paths crossed again at least once more.

[Quote] Originally the same models from Fincher's video were going to be used, namely Evangelista, Naomi Campbell, Christy Turlington, Cindy Crawford, and Tatjana Patitz. Mugler decided, however, that he wanted new models and only kept Evangelista for the project.

There was a VERY odd moment at the end of the series when Linda arrives to the group photoshoot and greets Naomi. She awkwardly says “hello, how are you” (the way you would to someone you barely know, not a friend of 30 years) and Naomi tersely replies “fine, thank you” and then pulls away. It’s night and day compared to the way the other women greet each other and makes it plain as day something really did happen between these two. Even my husband commented on how awkward it was.

There’s something so off about Cindy Crawford. Her energy is dark sided. I wouldn’t be surprised if and her husband have disturbing secrets.

Does Christy address the botched nose job in this new documentary? Do they show before pictures? She seems like a nice lady but I was always amazed when people would refer to her as a “natural” beauty. Not only is she not natural, I hope she sued that surgeon for medical malpractice.

Christy gets to bed down with Ed Burns! Lucky!

Cindy had a nosejob too.

Naomi had a shit-tonne of work done very early on. The problem with the shots at the link is that they don't show her at her peak.

Cindy is very Hollywood while the others are more New York/London. Cindy goes out in torn jeans but I could never imagine Christy doing that. That energy is completely different.

On the DM once, I saw a video of Cindy giving her repulsive husband a lap dance on a yacht with scores of people milling about. He was drinking and looking around as if he was waiting in line at the DMV - it was utterly pathetic.

I thought Cindy’s anecdotes about her (hot) father were interesting. Nobody could ever claim she married Richard Gere for his money because it was clear based on her worth ethic, she could take care of herself. Meanwhile, Linda was the polar opposite…marrying Gerald Marie to prolong her shelf life as a model, and getting pregnant by Francois Penault for a life of comfort.

I will say it’s absolutely embarrassing how Naomi is the only one who failed to plan for her future. But then, as her relationship with Azzedine Allai proved, she’s a professional user completely at ease living off of handouts.

Did Naomi mention her child? You almost never see her with it.

There have been other posters on the DL who claim Rande and Clooney are (were?) in a relationship. Cindy is gay. Probably Amal, too.

When Cindy's kids were young, there was this weird incident were the babysitter tied the daughter, naked, to a chair and left her on the front porch. It made headlines and then quickly disappeared with Rande and Cindy claiming the babysitter was playing a game and it was all a misunderstanding. WTF? Maybe they got it removed from headlines to protect their daughter, but I always wondered what kind of weird shit went on in that home.

Oh shit! I remember that! Pre-internet or at the very early days, because there was buzz around it but then the gossip just dwindled away.

Naomi’s original nose was cuter, but famous people never like their cute features.

R91, that is weird. That really must be a messed up family. Well, their kid did date Pete Davidson so that is additional proof.

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R92 - it happened in 2009. NOT PRE INTERNET DAYS. Sheesh.

Naomi never came across as a particularly nice person. Cold as ice.

R94 the “model” Presley Gerber!?

And this is remotely by interesting why?

It's a shame r98 is unfamiliar with this international symbol 🚫 and doesn't use it accordingly. Also a shame some people's activities are governed seemingly solely by brain stem function.

I love this pic of Linda and George:

[quote] Nobody could ever claim she [Cindy] married Richard Gere for his money because it was clear based on her worth ethic, she could take care of herself.

Just because you have your own source of income doesn't mean you don't marry for money or connections, status, prestige, etc. Cindy seems pretty benign and bland, but think about who she's married to, now - George Clooney's best friend. That's a marriage for money & status, IMO.

No idea why that comment made you so UPSET r95. Sheesh indeed.

The best thing ever was in 1990 or 1991 when they were all on Oprah and Oprah was talking to Cindy saying “you had your first Vogue cover at 19 yada yada” and Linda said something that only a cunt fashionista would say—and only the fellow cunt fashionistas watching would truly hear as it was meant to be heard—“But it was an AUGUST cover, Cindy. August.”

Oprah was unsophisticated about fashion then and did not get the dig. Nor did the Chicago studio audience. But all the other girls on stage sure did. (August issues were notorious for being the thinnest books of the year and having the lowest circulation compared to all the other months.)

It was such a nasty thing to say…shitting on someone’s success. Yet it was very funny because it was so Linda.

Linda always states that from the time she was a little girl her goal was to be a model. That's a really terrible ambition to have and focus your life on and the evidence of that is in how she is now. By contrast Turlington's career was more accidental and that's evidenced in the fact that when she was in her mid-late 20s she went to college, recognizing that while her modelling career might be what most people will remember her for it would not be in and of itself personally fulfilling. Again that seems to be born out in her life today.

Linda was correct, though. It was an August cover, not a September cover.

Early in her career when she signed an exclusive print contract with Calvin Klein, Christy found she had a lot of time on her hands. She lived in L.A. with an older boyfriend who was in the movie industry (Roger something) and took classes at UCLA. She had a solid middle class background that usually involves an expectation to go to college. She probably has innate curiosity, too. All have served her well.

Speaking of BFs and the movie industry, I just remembered she dated Jason Patric. Ugh.

[quote]I always laugh when I think about Cindy Crawford's quote about Madonna's Sex book--"I don't want to see any more naked pictures of her. If you have issues with your father, take it up with him, not the rest of the world."

Was anyone forcing Cindy to look at the pictures?

And yes, Cindy looks like a man.

If Cindy looks like a man, Maonna looks like a crossdressing Ebenezer Scrooge with his face ripped off.

*Madonna

Cindy wanted some free publicity.

Both Madonna and Cindy have trashy kids.

Oprah wanted to go down on Cindy's minge.

Cindy has a huge cock!

Some international editions of Vanity Fair will be featuring a cover story on the supermodels (from Cindy to Twiggy). I couldn’t help noticing that instead of getting Linda, they styled Milla Jovovich to look like her (when Milla was only a successful model, not a supermodel).

Also, I’d encourage people to check out Catwalk, a documentary from the early 90’s featuring Christy Turlington. She and Veronica Webb have a few exchanges that make them seem like Alexis Carrington and Dominque Deveraux.

I had a friend in HS who looked like Linda Evangelista. Friend was better-looking, actually. But same eye shape, somewhat prominent nose. Lips, teeth, and smile were very similar. My friend had blonde hair, though.

Naomi did have to put up with a lot of BS from the modeling agencies because of her race. I think it made her bitter and defensive. Didn’t Casablancas say something like he didn’t even find black women attractive? He was a major creep. But I am also disappointed in Naomi and some of the unfortunate choices that she has made in her life and her career.

Tired Banks here! Talk about me!

Jchrist, r24 has the correct attitude. Naomi and Linda were, according to many accounts, horrible people and you are still pitying Linda for her botched plastic do? Christ, they are millionaires, these is probably a scripted feud to increase viewers. I grew up in the 90s with these women in magazine covers and music videos, but they’ve had nothing, nothing, to add up to the world, culture or you, except for their beauty. Which serves a function, but there is what it is.

Ok, now that i had my rant, the above is perfectly fine and legitimate at, but feeling sorry for these entitled lclothes horses is not in me in a Friday after work.

Considering how photoshopped all the women are in the Vanity Fair cover, I wonder why Linda wasn’t included. Perhaps she was asked, but turned it down.

Naomi at her peak VS now

You weren’t kidding r114. Not even 10 minutes in and Veronica is squaring up.

Catwalk is on YouTube for anyone who might want to see it.

Maybe I should watch Catwalk, again. I don't remember the exchanges between Veronica Webb & Christy T.

It's always either about coke or bad fillers.

Veronica Webb is so unlikable.

R114. Paulina and Iman look the best, IMO. Shalom still looks amazing, too. Kristen McMenamy was always my least favorite of the 90s models. And dear lord why was Kristen Owen ever a model? Milla Jovovich did look a bit like Linda back in the day but wow she looks mental on that cover and what a joke getting her as a stand-in for La Linda.

I loved, LOVED Eva, Claudia, Amber Valleta and Carolyn Murphy but they really just look very normal now, which is fine. But not so much enduring beauties like Paulina and Iman.

Missing is Kristy Hume. who was ethereal and is still lovely. Nearly impossible to tell her apart from her daughter with Donovan Leitch. Both gorgeous and Nordic.

Claudia Schiffer was stunning

IMO, Claudia Schiffer was more cute & sexy (hence, the Guess ads) than beautiful.

I agree, R127.

Carolyn Murphy's pixie cut had me at hello. I was ALL about that woman in the 90s.

Where's my girl, Karen Mulder?

Yasmeen Ghauri had an amazing figure and walk. Her face doesn't look great in this photo, but she had a good face, as well.

I saw an interview of her when she was young & still modeling. She seemed down-to-earth and understanding that her looks wouldn't last forever.

Shalom Harlow was bar none THE most facially gorgeous and charismatic model of the 90s.

I always thought Nikki Taylor's looks were overrated.

Nikki Taylor was the model who tangled with Dionne Warwick on The Apprentice.

Dionne had had enough and said: "I got your number, hussy."

Nikki Taylor confounded me back in the 90s because I felt like she was like the cheerleaders I went to high school with, not an otherworldy supermodel. But she certainly had Miss America looks, so whatever, fair play. I preferred the more exotic and exquisite models.

Also, did I dream this, or did Nikki Taylor survive a terrible car accident? Was that a thing?

R134, no it wasn't a bad dream.

From her wiki page:

[quote]On April 29, 2001, Taylor was critically injured in a car accident in Atlanta, Georgia. The driver, her then boyfriend Chad Renegar, was attempting to answer his cell phone when he lost control of the car and smashed into a utility pole... She suffered severe internal injuries, including a collapsed lung and serious liver damage, and two steel rods had to be implanted in her back to hold her spine together. The accident left her unconscious and in a coma for six weeks and then bedridden for an additional month.

Whoa. Jesus. Ok so I didn't dream it...but I wish I had only dreamt it! How horrible!!! Also sounds like one of the first cellphone-related celebrity car crashes, going all the way back to 2001.

And also Nikki found her model sister Krissy, age 17, dead on the floor of their shared home. Krissy Taylor had died of a sudden rare cardiac event. Krissy had been on her way to becoming as successful as her sister. Apparently she had undiagnosed asthma and died of sudden acute cardiac arrhythmia brought on by an asthma attack.

Also also, Niki Taylor was a 26-year-old single mother of six-year-old twins when she almost died in that car accident! She started modeling at 13, got married at 18, had twins at19, got divorced at 20.

And she's from Florida.

Anddddddddddddd...

In October 2006, Niki Taylor became engaged to NASCAR driver Burney Lamar after just three dates. They now have two children of their own.

I had no idea Nikki was on The Apprentice. Kind of weird. She never used to like putting herself out there too much. She wasn’t crazy about the celebrity that grew around being a model in the 90s.

Karen Mulder had some serious mental health issues and went into seclusion…

To me, this US Vogue cover, which celebrated the 100-year anniversary, helps define the ultimate early 90’s supermodels.

For the record though, my favorite of the late-90’s, early 00’s supermodels was Amber Valletta. In addition to a famous Time magazine cover, she’s appeared on the cover of US Vogue 17 times.

Also, I just realized Amber is 3rd from the right in the photo that appears in OP’s link!

Nooo it was all about Nadja Auermann for your Teutonic goddess:

And Kristen McMenamy just was on RuPaul's Drag Race UK and looks great:

Nadja was beautiful and had amazing legs, but she was one of those former USSR girls with absolutely zero personality. None. She clearly spoke no English, so she remained one-dimensional and ultimately, completely forgettable.

Apparently I was way off. Nadja is German 😳

I thought Nadja was German.

Ooop sorry r146. I wrote the comment before I refreshed the page.

Link to “Catwalk” (full documentary).

Is that Christy's face featured in the promo? She had no shits to give about whoever tried to fuck her over.

And she won the Grand Prize.

It seemed to me that it was Christy starting with Veronica in that scene. It starts at 7:40.

It’s funny how Christy, Linda and even Cindy used to talk with a pronounced transatlantic accent

I could have sworn that somebody on this thread referenced the 1995 documentary "Catwalk," which I just (re)watched. What struck me then, and still now, is how much more beautiful Yasmin Parvaneh (now LeBon) was/is than any of the other supers. Though Christy was gorgeous in that doc. And I forgot that she was "dating" Christian Slater then. #eww

^ And yeah, I feel suitably stupid now that I see that my post immediately followed the very post to which I'd referred (and couldn't find). That said, perhaps it's this site's search function that deserves the derision.

R152, Yasmin was already 'Le Bon' in 1995, she married that blob poser from Duran Duran in 1985. She is still gorgeous today, at age 58. She should have had a bigger career but once she had kids, she didn't have the flexibility or the time that the other models had.

R154 As a fashion-house peon, I dressed her at one of her first fashion shows. She is (and, indeed, remains) beyond beautiful. And there's so much more to her.

Yasmin this year.

R156 ♥♥♥

Christy had long term relationships with Roger Wilson and then Jason Patric before marrying Ed Burns.

Yasmin LeBon was gorgeous. She was friends with all of THE supermodels (especially Naomi and Christy), but she herself was only a supermodel…lowercase ‘l.’ Cindy would regularly manage to seek her out during backstage interviews on House of Style. She always seemed pretty witty, but I think becoming a wife and mother at a young age lowered the ceiling of her career.

She married so young and has a near-40-year marriage with... Tubby, Tummy, Tub, Tubs, Simon.

It's appropriate because she has a Thomas the Tank Engine look.

I would rather see beautiful nobodies on a magazine cover,(supermodels than non beautiful nobodies, (nepo kids and reality stars)

Unfollowed each other on Instagram -- the ultimate insult. Modern celebrities can't even do feuds with class anymore.

[quote] she herself was only a supermodel…lowercase ‘l.’

So, "supermodel," instead of "supermodeL"?

I meant “s.”

She was on the lower tier of supermodels, like Elaine Irwin, Claudia Mason or Beverly Peele.

Rumor is the feud is over Naomi's ties to Epstein and warlords, which Linda doesn't want to be associated with. It's coming from Enty, though, so take it with a grain of salt.

I think the feud has something to with a comment Naomi made during The Super Models:

She made a big deal of highlighting her support of young, unknown designers, which sounded nice on the surface. But 30 years ago Linda was known for choosing a young, unknown designer for whom she’d walk for free. Here’s a House of Style interview where she makes the revelation…

I think she called Naomi out on her bullshit since “Omi”is not exactly known for her altruism.

I thought they all walked for free for Galliano's first collection in Paris, before he got the Givenchy job and when he was struggling to make a go of it under his own name.

Whatever the root of the feud Naomi was super cold to Linda. It looked extra mean after Linda said so many complimentary things about Naomi in the doc.

Veronica Webb's ex husband George Robb Jr sexually assaulted his own sisters when they were children.

Absolutely gross.

That’s awful. He’s the father of her kids.

Webb is a mother? Hahahahaah

Webb is the mother of two daughters- which she had with a pedophile. Revolting

A supermodel thread takes a dark, unanticipated turn...

No shit, R173. Eek. Is that *why* Webb divorced the husband?

At least it seems Webb didn't know about it. The court filings were in 2007/8 retroactive to late '60s/early '70s. Or at least I'm hoping it's the case.

[quote]Janice Dickinson is on a rooftop, threatening to jump. The crisis negotiator is en route.

I was here all along!

This is bizarre.

R17 lifted a DL post I made about Christy a while back, at least two years ago. How odd that someone felt the need to do that. Didn't even bother to change any of the words or phrasings. Was it an AI bot? Just bizarre.

In any case, just finished the documentary last night and was happy to see that Christy was as intelligent and grounded as I remembered. She's a class act.

Great show overall too; I could have watched several more hours of their stories. I wish Linda all the best. Cancer is an absolute bitch.

Web’s ex-husband sounds like a con-man sociopath. He’s being sued (or was sued) for fucking over his family members financially as well. I feel bad for Webb. Sociopaths wear a disguise.

[quote]She and Veronica Webb have a few exchanges that make them seem like Alexis Carrington and Dominque Deveraux.

"This Evian is flat and your Tic Tacs are stale."

That is bizarre, R177!

I just watched “Catwalk”- I’m a Christy Turlington stan. I wish that I hadn’t - she came across as not particularly nice. I know the flick was made years ago so hopefully she has evolved.

Some details about Webb’s ex husband’s financial no-no’s

>> Fashionably late << Not quite model behaviour

The V&A has just announced their plans for a Naomi Campbell retrospective. Let's hope museum bosses haven't planned an extravagant opening party that relies too heavily on her involvement.

Organisers of that recent Vogue World event fell into that trap. With Naomi, Christy, Linda and Cindy on the Vogue UK cover that month, the stage had been set for a triumphant show-stopping live finalé featuring the four supermodels.

Sadly, Naomi's inability to turn up on time for rehearsals at any point meant all the grand ideas had to be scaled back in favour of... walking.

Much to the annoyance of the three who had turned up.

R183, what else would they do besides walk? Dance? Lip sync to a song? It's not like they have any skills or talents that would necessitate a "rehearsal". Also what can Linda do besides walk, perpetually wrapped as she is in that Michelin Man jacket?

What did she say/do, r181? Or was she pretty vapid in general? All I can remember from that film is thinking what a mistake she made in getting bangs cut. She looked better before.

And is that the flick which shows Helena sniping about Sharon Stone starring in the Valentino show?

Veronica's ex is pretty ugly.

Helena is a slob.

Helena is ugly. Maybe even worse than Gisele.

How is Helena a slob?

Regarding R183’s post:

Naomi has always been the outlier when it comes to the professionalism of the Super Models. Cindy is famously focused and businesslike (even Kaia Gerber has noted her mom advised her to put away her cell phone when getting her hair and makeup done).

Linda always wanted to be a model, working and studying how to best show the clothes. She was known for her steady, graceful walk and prides herself on her jacket removal skills.

Christy was always reliable and big on collaborating…plus she seems to have matured significantly over the years.

Naomi, meanwhile, always attributes her lack of opportunities solely to race—which is fair—but she is also infamous for starting shit on-set, not showing up on time, and drawing attention away from the clothes and to herself.

[quote] prides herself on her jacket removal skills.

What a rare talent she has.

[QUOTE]and prides herself on her jacket removal skills.

Hmm? 😒 This is what she trained for as a little girl? Who knows what her parents were preparing her for? A husband like Gerald Marie?

I think it’s funny, but Linda really does light up while explaining the best way to remove a jacket (unbutton from the bottom and slide it off in one movement).

Helena looked awesome in Mugler when the maestro was still designing, but her most recent venture down the runway saw her wearing something most unfortunate looking.

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R194, what does a Staten Island prostitute strung out on crack have to do with this discussion?

That whore was at the Mugler show.

R194 who is that?

It’s Laverne Coxx…America’s favorite transgender woman 🙄

R189 your assessment is accurate in a way but totally biased. Could easily frame the same facts about Naomi in a positive light-- she overcame the most adversity, had the most self-confidence, brought the most of herself to the runway, found the most success in spite of her lateness, etc.-- rather than making it seem like detractions next to the other women's positive attributes.

I dallied in fashion show production in the early 90s Naomi had 2x the charisma and 2x the talent, on the runway, as the other supermodels. And they had a lot!

R194 Where were you when the thread about the first dog, Commander was suicide bombed yesterday?

Laverne Cox looks frightful!

OP I love your headline: “…locked in a feud…’ Very melodramatic yet with a legitimate breaking news vibe. Compelling. One of the 10 best of the year here. Kudos.

Was it Veronica Webb who had the affair with Trump or his son Don Jr, back in the late 90s? Or was that another supermodel (lower case "s") - ? Karen White , or something like that.

Loving the gossip on this thread.

R204, Cara Young. She dated Trump Sr. Who told her that she probably got her smarts from her white father’s side of the family.

Ty, r205

But my issue with her is that was not the reason why they broke up….

I came across this House of Style video from the period Freedom ‘90 was released. Wow. Linda behaves like a petulant cunt while Naomi is painfully shy. My, how the tables have turned.

Here’s another interesting video. Cindy interviews Christy, Linda, and Naomi, as well as Beverly Johnson and Lauren Hutton.

Again, Linda behaves like a cunt while Naomi is shy…almost timid. But the thing that really stands out is the fact that none of the Super Models in 2023 exude the humor, intelligence and confidence of Beverly and Lauren nearly 30 years ago. They would’ve been around the same age as Christy and company now…I wonder why they have so much more personality.

Oops…video linked

Carla Bruni and Trump Sr had a thing around the time she was fucking Mick Jagger.

It says something about the industry that Naomi didn’t get a major cosmetics endorsement deal but lighter skinned models like Veronica Webb and Kersti Bowser did. She was more beautiful than either of them.

She was a cunt, though

[quote] [R49] Tyra is up there too. They’re holding hands.

???? The ANTM franchise made Tyra very rich. She doesn't need to work another day in her life.

Tyra is ghetto.

Tyra’s not ghetto! She’s just a bitch despite her fake public persona of being a kind person.

Tyra is ghetto

Tyra’s staff on ANTM and her shitty talk show hated her because she was so fucking cheap.

Honey, Tyra is GHETTO

Tyra could be the richest woman in the world, but she will never be considered an iconic supermodel or style icon the way Naomi is. She will never be asked to walk another runway (unless it’s for Ann Taylor, or Talbots). And it brings me pleasure knowing that this most definitely eats away at her and keeps her up at night.

She’s already done Lane Bryant. Meanwhile Naomi is walking for Versace.

Tyra is all the rage with the big gurl brands these days.

Who needs Dolce & Gabbana when Torrid is calling?

Tyra has possibly the worst legs of any model ever. Calves like baseball bats.

Tyra only has a single Vogue cover, and it’s an international version (Spain?)

She had an enviable career as a model, but calling her a supermodel is a stretch.

Tyra was never particularly an in-demand runway model — she always was curvier than those designers preferred — but she was a savvy businesswoman, and she was probably the most successful out of all of the models at turning herself into a brand.

Not sure what happened between Naomi and Linda; they had positive things to say about each other in that documentary. So it’s probably something more recent.

Tyra Banks was a supermodel.

Tyra Banks was an underwear model, not a supermodel

WTF did Naomi do with all of her money? Isn’t she broke?

Tyra ads for Covergirl makeup too. She had the right look for the brand.

R228 that’s not necessarily a contradiction. Most of these models reached the height of their fame because of the Victoria’s Secret fashion shows.

Tyra Banks was a successful working model, but she was absolutely not a supermodel. Media personality, yes. Supermodel, never.

R225 Correct. She was one of the top BLACK models, but she wasn’t one of the top models period. She was never anywhere close to Naomi or Linda or Shalom or Amber or Kate.

...or Pam Dawber, R233

There just don't seem to have been the same kind of stories about Christy, Claudia, Helena, et al as there have been as those involving Naomi.

Poor Tyra: Her original nose! Naomi has had a few nosejobs, and Cindy and Christy got theirs done early, but Tyra's...

Tyra in the 90’s was similar to Christie Brinkley in the 80’s. Even though they both did some high fashion work, they were mostly known through their Sports Illustrated appearances and Cover Girl ads.

Also, as a child of the 90’s I think people are being a bit disingenuous regarding Tyra’s cultural impact in the late 90’s. Cindy Crawford ushered in an era where models could earn big bucks off the runway, and Tyra was the only one who successfully followed the playbook (until Gisele came along). She had a popular calendar, regularly appeared on Oprah, appeared in commercials for Nike and Pepsi, regularly appeared on MTV, and had a recurring role on Fresh Prince of Bel Air. All while maintaining lucrative contracts with Cover Girl and Victoria’s Secret.

Women like Amber Valletta, Shalom Harlow, Kate Moss, and Carolyn Murphy were considered supermodels because of their A-list clients and multiple Vogue covers, but they weren’t as well-known or as highly paid as Tyra.

Let’s not forget R237 that Amber Valletta, Shalom Harlow, Kate Moss, and Carolyn Murphy couldn’t smize like Tyra.

no, nobody can smize like Tyra!

But she clearly also had eye and lip work early on as well. The modelling agent who first took Tyra on must have had one hell of an imagination! Surely there were much prettier girls who didn't need so much knife work done? Maybe it was her attitude that got her as far as she did.

Tyra was commercial, The supermodels were FASHION.

"Expert in jacket removal" is just the most fabulous thing you could ever put on a resume.

Christy's nephew, James Turlington is also a model and looks more like Christy than her own two kids.

To be fair, while I agree that Carolyn Murphy, Shalow and Amber were not as popular as Tyra, I do think Kate Moss was. Everyone knew her in the '90s, for better or worse, and she had the Calvin Klein account early on so she definitely had significant endorsements as well.

i always thought that shalom harlow was the most gorgeous of them all, i wonder why she never quite rose to the heights that kate/christie/linda/naomi did.

sorry for the faulty link. trying again.

r244, I think she was too distinctive looking, whereas Cindy, Christy, and Linda could change a bit for the mood.

Chad Renegar Is a pretty iconic name...

Wonder what happened to him after hitting that utility pole

What his life would have turned out like if he didn't answer that call?

r181 - Being in a bitchy, competitive environment can rub off on young people who imitate surrounding behavior (is this how I'm supposed to act?). Even the best can slip into it, especially if there's perceived provocation.

I'm a Christy-stan, too. I'll need to watch over the weekend. But, yes, I'd say she's grown and developed.

... Shalom Harlow looked like an alien

IMO, Linda Evangelista was pretty distinctive-looking.

Yes she was, but she was a fantastic model.

r250, Linda was called, "The Chameleon":

Yeah, but she was still distinctive-looking. She's got those distinctive eyes and nose.

You know it's her. Madonna was known as a look-changer, but you knew it was Madonna.

Linda changed her hair constantly to the point that it was almost crazy. The color, the cut, constant change. Not just wigs, either.

Better looking than Gisele at least…

So do we have anymore info about why, exactly Linda and Naomi have suddenly fallen out? Seems odd after 30 years of friendship.

No one seems to have any insight but I think the truth is that they probably haven’t been all that close since the 1990s. Naomi doesn’t seem like she has a lot of close female friendships — all of the close relationships they talked about in that documentary were with men.

Wasn’t Naomi good friends with Kate Moss?

Better nowadays, but this Guardian article from 1999 shows how toxic the modeling industry can be…

Yes R258, Naomi and Kate are still extremely close.

The racism Naomi has dealt with and probably continues to deal with can only be considered significant. However, Linda and Christy often used to tell fashion's power players that they only got them for a job if they hired Naomi as well.

I remember reading an interview featuring Christy decades ago and she commented that Naomi had changed to an incredible extent since they had first met as teenagers. It wasn't a snipe, but it did sound like fame and other factors had gone to Naomi's head.

I think the unfollowing happened on the heels of that Kanye West fashion show from last year in which he unveiled a "White Lives Matter" T-shirt and in which Naomi Campbell participated. I know it generated a decent a amount of backlash within in the industry, and Linda posted a response that basically said something to the effect "I never been more ashamed of fashion." When Linda came out with her Cool-Sculpting deformity issues, Naomi was quite supportive on Insta so, at least at that time, they were still on friendly terms. Who knows?!