New York judge finds Donald Trump liable for fraud
A New York judge has found Donald Trump and his adult sons liable for fraud, saying the Trumps provided false financial statements for roughly a decade.
Judge Arthur Engoron’s ruling came days before the civil case involving the New York attorney general’s office and the former president was set to go to trial.
Engoron granted Attorney General Letitia James’ motion for summary judgment, finding Trump, his sons, and others “to be liable as a matter of law for persistent violations” of New York state law. He found the financial statements the Trumps provided to lenders and insurers for about a decade to be false and said they repeatedly engaged in fraud.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 40 | September 29, 2023 1:39 PM
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Thank you OP, we needed a second thread on the topic.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | September 26, 2023 10:11 PM
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In the order, the judge rejected Trump’s deposition testimony in which the former president said that the financial statements were not fraudulent because they contained disclaimers. Trump said the statements contained a “worthless clause” in them warning lenders and others that they shouldn’t be relied on.
James has alleged that Trump, three of his children, his companies and his business executives defrauded lenders, insurers and other entities.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | September 26, 2023 10:12 PM
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Since not everyone researches every godddamn motherfucking post before posting something that captivates them, we should post 20 more threads on this.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | September 26, 2023 10:13 PM
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R1 aka the "hall monitor:" You're welcome.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | September 26, 2023 10:13 PM
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Knock me over with a feather!
by Anonymous | reply 6 | September 26, 2023 10:19 PM
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Did Ivanka legally sever herself from the company? Her name is not mentioned. I realize she and the mister now have more money than God.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | September 27, 2023 12:47 AM
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Don Jr. and Eric are having meltdowns on Twitter. They say the judge valued Mar-e-Lago at $18 million, when it is really worth more like $1 billion.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | September 27, 2023 1:15 AM
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MAGA tears are delicious. Time for some popcorn as the shit show gets on the road. I hope Don Jr. cokes himself into a coma.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | September 27, 2023 1:18 AM
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R8 - Not anymore they don't.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | September 27, 2023 1:18 AM
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Everything about Trump's life including his family and associates is fraudulent.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | September 27, 2023 2:29 AM
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[quote] They say the judge valued Mar-e-Lago at $18 million, when it is really worth more like $1 billion.
A billion dollars for bed bugs, mold, and Dump's rancid farts? There aren't enough 'Sure, Jans' in the entire solar system.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | September 27, 2023 4:26 AM
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`And the strange part? He will most likely get re-elected.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | September 27, 2023 4:43 AM
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DONALD TRUMP IS A FRAUD AND A FAILURE
by Anonymous | reply 15 | September 27, 2023 5:57 AM
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The best part of all this is that for the first time his sons are FINALLY punished for their involvement if the Trump Crime Family Grift. They are not allowed to do business in the sate either. 🤣
I am sure they will all take that grift to Florida, which is totally fine since that states politics need to die in a grease fire anyways.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | September 27, 2023 8:22 AM
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What’s interesting is the majority response in the media (via comments) and social media of American citizens saying, “Good.”
The American media doesn’t like to cover it but reasonable Americans are sick of this grift and the response to this suggests that a criminal conviction would be even more satisfying to Americans who are engaged in the fight for preserving our democracy and the rule of law on our country.
A lot more people are paying attention to these things than the media and fake pollsters acknowledge, which bodes well for next year. Democrats keep winning by wide margins in special elections despite what the media says. And they are also getting more and more critical of how the media presents Trump.
And isn’t it ironic that the House is having their little impeachment inquiry hearing tomorrow when here is full proof of a former POTUS and likely candidate committing $2.2B worth of fraud and being drummed out of NY State and they’ve got NOTHING on President Biden. Talk about cognitive dissonance. It’s like a psychotic illness. And the Democrats on the committee will hammer them on this. Too rich.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | September 27, 2023 9:01 AM
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Is he permitted to return to New York without being handcuffed and leg ironed? That would be a start. Banish him to the flyover regions he feels such a soulful affinity for. Those are his people. Clarence Thomas has said the same thing about himself. Let him dwell in and judge from Podunk. Yes, rural life and simple pleasures. This is where I see them in their element. Hoe downs and barn raisings. Let them be content and far away from having to air their endless grievances with the complex culture of the Enlightenment. Good night, Trump-boy.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | September 27, 2023 9:06 AM
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It’s also funny that the Trump family wants us to believe MAL is worth over a billion dollars when we’ve all seen photos of the tacky bathrooms with mismatched fixtures, etc. They’re unbelievable. On a small peninsula in Florida that’ll be under water in 10 years.
I’d like to see then try and get property insurance for $1B.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | September 27, 2023 9:25 AM
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Yeah, would be interesting to see insurance policies for these properties.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | September 27, 2023 8:35 PM
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I keep hoping for a direct hit hurricane.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | September 27, 2023 10:06 PM
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Some Florida real estate people today were saying it was probably worth about $300 million.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | September 28, 2023 12:42 AM
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R14 the strangest part is your idiocy and pathetic trolling.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | September 28, 2023 12:56 AM
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Mara Lardo ... I would love to see The Donald have to sell it off!
by Anonymous | reply 26 | September 28, 2023 12:58 AM
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Ok, when are we going to see some jail time for this asshole? I wanna see some action!
by Anonymous | reply 27 | September 28, 2023 1:01 AM
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"What’s interesting is... American citizens saying, “Good.”
Then what are we to make of Trump's fabulous poll numbers? Or is it Russian disinformation so they can hack the 2024 race with little suspicion?
If Democrats win, Russia loses... bigtime.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | September 28, 2023 1:10 AM
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How long before gold digger Melanie bails?
by Anonymous | reply 29 | September 28, 2023 1:47 PM
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R22, I wouldn’t trust real estate people. They are incentivized to inflate prices, particularly when it’s not having to do with an actual sale, because their entire livelihood benefits from higher prices.
There is absolutely no way that it can be worth $300 million dollars and the county tax assessor says it’s worth $22 million, which when they said in 2020 and Trump argued it’s that was too high. Palm Beach County might get the valuations wrong but they aren’t undervaluing properties by ten times.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | September 28, 2023 2:06 PM
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R30 - This is correct, especially in this case. There is a deed restriction on that place that seriously hampers what can be done with the property. Getting rid of something like that is next to impossible. If it said "no black people', yes, you can get rid of those, but what this one is, forget it.
So the fact that you will never be able to turn that into a residential space has a huge impact on what you could get for it.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | September 28, 2023 2:49 PM
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I hope to live to see the massive Trump FIRE SALE where his silly, money-losing golf courses and gaudy buildings (what few he actually owns) are sold to a bunch of bargain hunters! After paying his legal fees, debts, and fines there won't be a dime left!
by Anonymous | reply 32 | September 28, 2023 3:48 PM
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I hope Melanoma got her money upfront so she doesn't have to return to hooking.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | September 28, 2023 4:03 PM
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Oh brother. Cue the 6104 exact same jokes about Mel going back to hooking. SO WITTY SO FUNNY! Gets funnier after the 500th time you hear it.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | September 28, 2023 4:06 PM
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R34 has her tampon in a twist over Dump's mail order bride/hooker.
by Anonymous | reply 35 | September 28, 2023 4:37 PM
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R34 Vairst Letty showed poosey for money. Money goot. Poosey goot too. How much you pay to see?
-MT
by Anonymous | reply 36 | September 28, 2023 4:59 PM
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I know Mel's an hold whore. But if you need to crack new jokes about Mel, how about being FUNNY.
by Anonymous | reply 37 | September 28, 2023 5:07 PM
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Trump’s corporate death penalty - I like that.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | September 28, 2023 5:14 PM
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Old whores are the worst kind. All those dried up old snappers. Hand me that KY and let me grease that thing up a bit.
by Anonymous | reply 40 | September 29, 2023 1:39 PM
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