I LOVE TATUM O NEAL

Not at the Datalounge

Why, op?

Who? Never heard of him/her?

Has anyone posted on do before about Tatum?

I love a good baked potato

I heard she overdosed again and two of her kids are caring for her. The last OD, she lost capacity to speak read and write. She got speech back but still cannot write or read. She’s such an upset person. I really wish her well. Her father made SO much trouble for her and her brothers. Just SO much trouble.

Poor Tatum.

She must have been the O'Neal Troll since we haven't heard from him/her/them in several years.

She seems like a good person with just a lot of hurt inside. I wish her recovery and peace.

Has Kristy McNichol reached out to her?

She is very active on Instagram -- not in terms of posting, but in terms of engaging. Some days as I scroll through my feed I see she's liked every single post.

I just googled and was shocked to learn she lives in the memory ward of an upscale retirement community. She is only 59.

R10, Tatum likes all of your posts?

R12, No she doesn't follow me, but I follow her, so I can see when she's liked a post from someone we both follow. Evidently we follow a lot of the same accounts.

I just posted the article from Hollywood Reporter and it mentions that's how she spends her days now -- scrolling through Instagram.

R13 Got it, thank you.

So much drama

I am worried, she needs to go back to this activity. SUPER WORRIED

She is awesome. She's been through hell, too.

[quote]She got speech back but still cannot write or read

I don't think she could ever read or write, R5.

OP, I'm with you. Love Tatum. She has always been a cross between extremely cute and stunningy beautiful. And her voice is fabulous--a trademark voice without any affectation. Her talent is indisputable.

Did I mention I love Tatum?

Here we go

Big nips on Kristy

We are very close in age. I loved her too as a kid. There is something very sad about her life. If you see her in interviews, she really seems to be trying to live a better life. But forces, and her own character flaws keeps dragging her down. Her father is truly a monster by all accounts. Absolutely gorgeous when he was young, but a monster.

I love her, adore her. Always have. She's just the cutest, bravest, most troubled little gal. Her book was a nightmare to read. Her father should be in prison.

This video made me choke up.

I still have a hard time equating the adorable little girl from Paper Moon with what she has become.

Paper Moon. The Bad News Bears.. Both classics. Enough said.

TATUM FOREVER!!!

Agree that Ryan should be in prison with Redmond. He ruined his kids' lives.

Tatum must have somehow managed to be an okay mother in spite of everything because her kids are devoted to her and all seem pretty normal. That means a lot.

Wasn't she a lesbian for a while?

Wow, she’s had a tough life.

It's sad to read that she overdosed. I remember reading in her book that McEnroe once asked (paraphrasing) when he was going to finally be allowed to stop feeling sorry for her because of her childhood. It seems like hers was just too rough to truly overcome.

I really liked her in her appearance on Sex and the City. I hadn't seen her in anything as an adult and thought she was a naturally good actress in that episode.

R29 I feel really bad for her

Her mother was Joanna Moore (the original Miss Peggy on the Andy Griffith Show) who also suffered from drug and alcohol problems.

McEnroe is an asshole. To tell someone who is so traumatized that he’s tired of “feeling sorry for her”. Just a huge jerk from the same mold as her father.

R30 You should watch the Lifetime classic "Fab five the texas cheerleader scandal". It's amazingly bad!

She was reared by an asshole. Have heard many times st8 people marry someone who is like their parent of the opposite sex. logically she would marry an asshole. Majority of child actors lead tragic lives. The black girl who acted with her in PM, as wonderful as she was, never acted again. Did she have a better life than TON?

Isn’t she a crack whore?

Has Jodie Foster reached out?

I remember Wendy Williams was a bitch to Tatum on her show and Tatum handled it really well, although you could tell she wasn't happy with the questions.

I saw her years ago as a kid at the premier of her father's magnum opus, "So Fine." She smiled at me.

What a sad horrible mess.

[quote] She is very active on Instagram -- not in terms of posting, but in terms of engaging. Some days as I scroll through my feed I see she's liked every single post.

I wonder if she ever comes on DL.

If you're reading this, Tatum, we love you.

She was great as Cherie Currie's mom in "The Runaways"

[quote]But forces, and her own character flaws keeps dragging her down. [quote]She was reared by an asshole

Men didn't raise their children in those days. She and her brothers were NEGLECTED, thus the disfunction. As usually happens, the boys acted out against others, the girl acted out against herself. I blame Joanna Moore and Farrah Fawcett as much as I blame Ryan.

Every single person in her life dropped the ball. All the balls. Criminal negligence and abuse of a child on a scale that defies human understanding.

Except Cher. I wish Cher had adopted Tatum.

R44 No doubt she was the victim of terrible parents but I it's hard not to drop the ball on addicts.

It's okay to drop the ball on your 3 year old, your 7 year old, your 15 year old? I'm talking about age zero to 18. Tatum was a child who had to raise herself in a vacuum. She was basically feral.

I think she does the best she can do.

[quote] I blame Joanna Moore and Farrah Fawcett as much as I blame Ryan.

I think Joanna Moore was a major prescription junkie and was way too gone to be there for her kids. Farrah and Ryan were too obsessed with themselves, each other and coke to pay attention.

She was quite good on that SATC episode. Looked good, too. My memory is fuzzy but I swear she and Ryan had a cringy reality show.

Yet all through the years she seems to make excuses for Ryan.

[quote]The black girl who acted with her in PM, as wonderful as she was, never acted again.

That's because she tried to push Madeline out a window in Little Rock.

Melanie Griffith is so gross. She took Tatum to an orgy when she was ~12 years old and this was while she was also banging/dating Ryan.

[quote]The black girl who acted with her in PM, as wonderful as she was, never acted again.

That's because she wasn't an actress to begin with, just a local Bogdanovich picked to do the role.

I like her. She never had a chance. Exploited as a cute kid. Most of those Malibu Hollywood kids from the 60’s -70’s are just fucked up.

her kids seem normal?

[quote] McEnroe is an asshole. To tell someone who is so traumatized that he’s tired of “feeling sorry for her”. Just a huge jerk from the same mold as her father.

That's not what he said. It was more "when was he going to finally be allowed to stop feeling sorry for her because of her childhood."

Not to defend John, as I'm sure he was a major asshole in many ways, but I think in this particular context, it's a reaction to having to excuse bad behavior (i.e. drug taking). I'm sure Tatum would get high, fuck up, and then cry to John that she couldn't help it because of her upbringing. If you live with an addict, after a while you get tired of the excuses. Because they never want to take responsibility. It's always someone else's fault that they drink or do drugs. We all have fucked-up childhoods to a degree. We've all dealt with disappointment and rejection and being treated like shit. But there comes a time that you have to learn to function in the real world as an adult, especially if you have others who depend on you. It's very difficult, I know, but you have to learn how to conquer your demons. And if you can't, it's unfair to expect your loved ones to put up with that behavior indefinitely.

[quote]She never had a chance. Exploited as a cute kid.

Leaving the hellhole with her mother and getting into Paper Moon was the best move she could have made at age 9. Staying in show biz was not a wise idea.

Why would people blame Farah for Tatum, she didn't get with Ryan until Tatum was 15 or 16 years old. Tatum wasn't her responsability. Redmond on the other hand...

Who is blaming Farrah for Tatum, R58???

I drove by Farrah’s grave today. It just had a name on her stone. Nothing else. Weird.

R58, Farrah was a vain and selfish bitch who could have tried to help Tatum. She could have at least encouraged RO to be a better father. Maybe she did, but that's not the impression I get. In any event, if you're in a relationship with someone who has kids, you have a responsibility to them, like it or not. Do your best to be kind to the kids, and help them if you can. Farrah was too busy fucking and fighting with her man to be bothered with his kids. Bitch.

Hear, hear, R61. Farrah and Ryan were absolute fuckwads. Totally into themselves, and should not have procreated. Farrah should TOTALLY have taken Tatum into her bosom, but she didn't. Ryan should have seen that as a red flag, but he didn't. All the adults in the equation FUCKING SUCKED.

I willl never not feel outrage about the way Tatum O'Neal was raised.

It’s almost like Farrah and Ryan got off on denying Tatum any affection or love. Junkies in love....

Oops wow sorry

Nevermind - Datalounge temporarily got confused and put a Billy Idol comment here. It's gone now.

To be honest, I prefer Tatum to some of my own children.

R61, Ryan LEFT his teenage children because of his new relationship with Farrah. Fuck you, I have something else to do. Airhead Farrah, "okay."

[quote]Farrah should TOTALLY have taken Tatum into her bosom

Very small implants by today's standards, so it wouldn't have worked

Tatum O'Neal is still alive?

R62, birds of a feather. When I hear people talk about what a "good" person, I just think "would a good person stay with someone like Ryan O'Neal for decades?" I know there are obviously victims of domestic abuse that stay with their husbands/wives but that's not what this was, this was someone willfully choosing to stay with a man she knew was a piece of shit.

I don’t know. Farrah was a bit of an enigma.

I always liked Tatum’s voice when she was younger. It had this super appealing gentle huskiness to it.

Do not discount that Ryan and Farrah were high all the time.

OP her last name is O'Neal

The adults around her when she was growing up were abusing or abandoning her. You never recover from that. She will be ill for the rest of her life and nothing can be done about it. There will always be that terrible hurt and void and it's too late. They make excuses for their bad behavior but there is nothing that can be done. There will always be a relapse. Somehow her brother who is still with anger towards his father escaped and made a decent life for himself(as far as I know.) But then he didn't win an Oscar at an obscenely young age embittering and enraging a narcissistic actor like his father. Winning that award made things worse for Tatum.

Ryan is such a creep.

[quote] "I had just put the casket in the hearse and I was watching it drive away when a beautiful blonde woman comes up and embraces me," Ryan told me. "I said to her, 'You have a drink on you? You have a car?' She said, 'Daddy, it's me--Tatum!' I was just trying to be funny with a strange Swedish woman, and it's my daughter. It's so sick."

Then later, Ryan claimed that Tatum made up this story, wanting us to somehow forget that HE was the source! Can you see why he fucked up his kids so badly? Imagine being gaslit like that by your own father.

[quote] I drove by Farrah’s grave today. It just had a name on her stone. Nothing else. Weird.

You "drove" by it? You mean you went in and looked for it, deliberately.

R76, he is such an asshole.

ummm

I liked Ryan in several movies - Paper Moon, Barry Lyndon and What's up Doc - and still do. It is possible to separate the screen person from the real one.

r79 your point?

Yes he was very appealing on film. Like George Peppard. Total jerks in real life. Patricia O'Neal hated working with Peppard in Tiffany's. When Hepburn talks about the men she worked with he is never mentioned and it is one of her most famous films. And Elizabeth Ashley has some horror stories about him in her auto bio. But he could really turn on the charm.

What’s Tatum precious?

[quote]Patricia O'Neal hated working with Peppard in Tiffany's

Might you mean Patricia NEAL, R82? To get that wrong...tsk tsk. Patricia Neal is a gay icon. George Peppard. not much.

Patricia and Tatum and Eugene are the greatest O'Neals.

Joan Collins said that George Peppard was one of the worst actors she ever had to work with - total raging asshole.

Well, Joan IS a connoisseur of bad acting.

Someone should start a thread good ol’ George. I’d like to hear the gossip.

Everyone thought Peppard was a jerk including me. He was at the Avco in Westwood one afternoon talking out loud with his companion and carrying on during the movie. Somebody shushed them and he yelled back, Fuck off, laughed out loud and continued to behave like an ass. In the mid 80's.

I thought she was hysterical in Rescue Me, but I suspect she wasn't acting. She would be a nightmare to be involved with, on any level. Still, I love her too.

I've always felt sorry for her, considering the shitty parents she had.

Drugs destroyed so many lives in this family

Ryan was like far too many "Hollywood" parents. He was only interested in himself and his career. So many actors are complete narcissists. If God was real Ryan O'Neal and Joanna Moore would have both been born sterile.

She’s incredible. I always liked her and thought she has a great natural beauty: light eyes, dark lashes, freckles. What she and Griffin went through living with their mom sounds close to deprivation-worse than neglect. I’m glad her kids didn’t abandon her, she did something right. It does sound sad how desperate she is, and always has been, for a relationship with her dad. My mother was like that with her mother, who could barely be bothered. I guess I’m tougher. I avoid my greatly reduced family. They’re not good for me.

She’s shit.

Then you must have been disappointed when Tatum got nose thinning surgery, R94.

No, r77 anyone can drive right by Farrah’s grave. It’s on a road in a very small cemetery off of Wiltshire you can see it close to the car. . I wasn’t looking for her grave- I was there to drive a visitor past Hefner and Marilyn Monroe’s graves

* sorry, Hef and Monroe are in the wall not graves. -I am r97

Hef’s last creepy move was buying that crypt.

R96 That wasn't surgery, darling. That was flesh eating cocaine.

Farrah as a step mother never stepped up and almost encouraged Ryan's poor parenthood. Somehow Tatum still seems to have a soft spot for her nasty abusive father.

Tatum is a nice person with a seriously troubled past. It's amazing she's still alive. Her brother who was NOT raised by Ryan turned out somewhat normally and is a sportscaster. WEHT Redmond?

Redmond is rotting away in a psychiatric prison for attempted murder while on meth and coke.

Dark.