Terry Miller on Hoo.be (Onlyfans knockoff)

ew

He seems standard middle-ish age gay. Handsome enough. Am i missing something special? Is it that he’s married to a famous person? Real question. I could look him up but - doesn’t seem worth it.

What is this

I’m R2. ok. I looked him up. (Followed link) kinda what i thought. West hollywood - fire island type.

I wouldn't mind seeing the photo set from before he became all dried out, but I'm not going to pay for it.

Desperate like most of them. Maturing isn’t a word in Peter Pan’s vocabulary.

Seriously why would anyone pay for a photo of him? He put everything for free on FetLife

(Link is LPSG. It’s pretty extreme)

Actually he’s posted photos of his ass and dick on Twitter for free

Wonder why he’d think he’d be able to sell pictures

You know deep in his heart of hearts Dan is embarrassed by Mrs. Dan and her antics.

Nope. He’s into it too.

It seems a rather silly hobby.

R6 Yup. He'll have to reinvent himself in rougher and rougher trade as he ages out.

Here’s the thing, Terry has adopted the cartoonish public persona of the dom top but if you actually look through the FetLife photos linked in LPSG, he is actually the submissive. I think Dan has actually been a big part in crafting Terry’s persona as a fetish object for him and probably enjoys the humiliation/cuckhold aspect - remember humiliation is a big component of bdsm.

One more thing you’ll realize while going through the photos (warning: they are extreme) is the kind of submission that Miller enjoys - it’s heavy on immobilization, constriction and sensory deprivation. My opinion? He’s on the Autism Spectrum.

Is he cash strapped or something?

Autistic people look like lifeless dolls, devoid of emotion, though.

He's special-needs, right?

This is just sad! I’m clutching my pearls for Christian concern.

Hoo.be = hobos

He must need money bad. Who on earth would pay to see this man. His pictures are very extreme, but who am I to judge. I am not into or interested in his bondage play. It looks painful and ridiculous. I guess I really am old if this is the new craze out there.

He's very handsome and has a great chemically enhanced body. He's an exhibitionist and a narcissist and is permanently horny.

He's just doing what comes naturally.

Always found him kina gross. Dan's more attractive to me.

He has an off-putting energy about him.

Histrionic - all about display and yet extremely needy. Not as toxic as narcissistic. But annoying and exhausting.

I wonder if his other BF is into it. Yes, he has an official side piece.

What's their son up to these days? Aside from beaming with pride at his father's Indian summer career in porn.

I’ve always been of the opinion that the son never existed. The handful of photos of them with a young child was simply a prop child lended by friends. All the photos with the child are from around the same time. Savage strikes me as a sociopath. A well meaning one, but still a sociopath.

Try reframing their marriage as the symbiotic relationship of a sociopath (Savage) and an Autism Spectrum individual (Miller). Both sociopaths and ASD people are known to have a significantly higher representation in the BDSM community.

In particular with Miller, you really need to take a look at his bondage photos, it veers highly toward total body sensory overload and depersonalization, it’s extremely autistic. Additionally, Aspergers people often choose to adapt cartoonish, artificial personas (Aspies don’t do subtlety). There is also a correlation between ASD and being a good model, which Miller is; I suspect it has something to do with autism-related disassociation and masking.

Additionally, if you’re familiar with the term “folie à deux”

Creating an imaginary child is exactly the thing that would happen in a folie à deux between a sociopath and an Aspie.

I wouldn’t go so far as to call them sociopaths because they are not hurting anyone (except maybe their son). In Terry’s case it more of an “ism”, an obsession that includes narcissism- dunno about all the diagnostics of R27 (are you a professional). I think Dan has sort of gone along with it to justify a relationship and his image or brand. Maybe they are happy? Dan has a boyfriend- I know that. But I understand that there’s a casualty; their son. To me it’s all a sad mess- although as I said, they may be happy campers for all I know.

If the child does not exist, that would be definition of sociopathy. But I don’t think Miller is a sociopath, Savage is. Miller would have just went along with it because… Aspergers.

There are almost no interviews with Terry Miller but take a look at this one:

Tendency to look down and away, often has a glazed far-off look, but look what he does with his hands - he grasps them together and brings them up in front of himself - this is the most common of autism spectrum stereotypies (repetitive motions).

Savage is very charismatic and articulate and looks you in the eye, but that’s what charismatic sociopaths do, it’s just that they lie constantly. Savage goes on and on about being a parent, but could he potentially be lying about everything?

Are there any nudes of Dan?

Several of the photos in the LPSG thread were suspected of being of him.

Oh joy! A Dark Triad Troll has joined the discussion.

No-one's mentioned the Dark Triad. Only one or two of the components have even been mentioned.

Ooooh, I didn’t even thinking of the Dark Triad! But created a fake child to advance your celebrity would be classic Dark Triad.

Here’s the thing, if Dan Savage was the upstanding, conscientious, gay-as-blazes person he sold himself as for years, then when Terry decided to become an exhibitionist, he would have dumped him to protect the child. He did not, and he appears to in fact encourage it.

There is no child.

The son is now around 25 years old.

If he exists.

Terry should team up with that other DL fave, David Bromstad, for a "Thoroughly Pathetic World Tour 2023/2024."

r27, I have a friend with an autistic child, an that child takes the most beautiful photos- she looks like a Botticelli angel. She's also a musical/drawing/painting prodigy.

Boob.ee

Oh.boybe

Terry and Tom of Finland had a huge falling out so this is probably his only income. His BF doesn't appear to have a high paying job and lives with them. I think Dans BF probably pays his own way but that is still a lot people to look out for. God Bless Dan for living his best poly life but there is no way in hell I would trade places with him. It all seems exhausting.

There is a tendency of Spectrum people to have very clear, wide set eyes with vivid irises and slack facial muscles which make them ideal models.

Colby Keller (very clearly Spectrum) was a very good model.

What in the world? Who are these people and why would anyone pay money to them for anything. Gross people. I get creeped out by people who live a "sex positive lifestyle" for the world to see. They nasty.

Spectrum people? What about Fios people? Are they beady-eyed with cataracts?

I’d love to see a reputable link or two re that analysis.

He looks desperate, vain, and hideous. Dan has always been attractive IMO, but unfortunately he too is a narcissist pig person—a total prick. They deserve each other.

Dan has been a high-profile resident of the Seattle area for more than two decades, it seems very unlikely he could pull have pulled off a fake kid. Pretty sure DJ is real. Dan did write in "The Kid" that one of his rationales for adopting was it gave him a good topic for a book. Honest, I guess, but I remember wondering what DJ would think of that when he read it as an adult.

I also suspect Terry embarrasses Dan. Tough to ditch him after the "It gets better" thing, although a life of willing public humiliation and pain fetishes seems to undercut the premise of "It gets better."

One of my best friends ran into Dan and Terry in public years ago when she was visiting Seattle for a work trip. She casually said hello, that she was a fan of his show, and thanked him for it. I can't remember the exact details, but he was apparently a complete dick and basically dismissed her and walked off.

How awful.

I just came from a lunch that included a very famous actor.

I asked how he felt about being approached by fans. He said he’s honored. (Finds it uncomfortable when people are pointing and saying his name but don’t approach.)

Kindness goes a long way… and kindness and lack thereof says a lot.

"Terry and Tom of Finland had a huge falling out so this is probably his only income."

Details, please.

He fell out of the sling. Plop!

I don't remember every detail, but he did a long Instagram post about him separating from the company because they didn't pay him what they promised. something like that.

When you peddle your ass, you need to get that money up front.

[quote]r46 Who are these people and why would anyone pay money to them for anything. Gross people.

They’re bastard people! That's what they are! They’re just bastard people!

[quote]One of my best friends ran into Dan and Terry in public years ago when she was visiting Seattle for a work trip. She casually said hello, that she was a fan of his show, and thanked him for it. I can't remember the exact details, but he was apparently a complete dick and basically dismissed her and walked off.

Yep, she met Dan.

Not a fan of Lindy West here, but I loved it when she read him to filth in The Stranger and he printed a long-winded, sputtering response.

West wrote a TV series called Shrill starring Aidy Bryant. John Cameron Mitchell played the antagonist which was apparently based on Savage.

R46 Bah bah my freedoms!

do they not go to folsom anymore? there used to be tons of pics of them at the festival but i haven't seen any over the last couple years

I hate that these two raging narcissists made themselves representatives of the gay community.

Seriously, they are faking a child? There has to be someone on DL that knows them personally, right?

I did try to search for their son DJ Miller Savage and found very few photos. Makes me wonder…

Can anyone clear this up? If their son is made up then these men are a waste of space.

YAWN......Terry is so over, looks like he is scraping bottom if he think more than a handful of fans are going to pay for that. He over exposed himself and now no one wants him. Not if they have to pay for it.

The “fake child. Thing is DL at its nuttiest. I heard Andy Cohen also adopted fake babies… pass it on!

I went to an event hosted by Savage when I lived in the Portland. He pretty much eyeballed every guy that walked through the door.

[quote] do they not go to folsom anymore? there used to be tons of pics of them at the festival but i haven't seen any over the last couple years

Terry was whipped publicly in Folsom, outside, mostly naked, until he was bleeding. It was straight out of Twelve Years A Slave. The photos are on LPSG. This is not the behavior of a 50 year old parent who has raised a child for two decades. It’s the behavior of someone with severe arrested development. He was never a parent and never raised a child.

The thing is Terry does not seem like a bad person (he includes his boyfriend and their dogs on his Christmas card with Dan, but no child), very narcissistic and self-absorbed but not bad. A parent who had raised a child who wanted to protect the child’s reputation would not do this.

Someone who was guilt-ridden for an embarrassing lie, IMO, would have a reason to be voluntarily whipped in public until bleeding all over his back.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. That guy's teeth are frightening.

Whose portraits are those in his ridiculous arm tattoos?

[quote]The thing is Terry does not seem like a bad person

I agree. Dan Savage, on the other hand, is sinister.

Dan Savage could have played Guy Woodhouse.

A lot of wild speculation on this thread.

I really think you guys are making these two out to be far more complex and interesting than they actually are.

R71 that is my thought exactly. It’s difficult to diagnose anyone without sitting down one on one and having a psychological conversation. Even a trained professional will tell you. Plus, to determine body language you cannot take one video and use that to determine or evaluate their mental diagnoses. Some people are not comfortable talking on camera and Terry’s arms could be a reflection of protecting himself from others seeing his real self. I see Terry as an insecure man who is not comfortable being in the limelight. Hence most of his photos he is bound and covered up. They probably are used to living a certain lifestyle and unfortunately times are difficult so they need money, who does not? But if these men saw this thread and the assumptions and amateurs diagnosing them it would be devastating to them. Look, their “play for pay” might not be our cup of tea, but please stop the madness.

I am a longtime DL’er but this thread has become almost preposterous. If the table was turned I am sure you would not want others speaking so flippantly about you. Saying they do not have a real son is sad. Maybe the son is embarrassed and changed his name so he can stay private. Until you enter someone’s world and really know them leave the psychological diagnostic exams to professionals.

[quote]It’s difficult to diagnose anyone without sitting down one on one and having a psychological conversation.

There's a DLer or two who like to "diagnose" the psychological conditions of all sorts of celebrities based on still photos and video snippets. It is indeed preposterous.

These guys have made different choices from some of us in terms of the rules of their relationship.

Doesn’t make them sick or wrong. It seems to work for them.

Our child is dead, Terry-Martha

what a HO!

Who’s Afraid of Terry Miller?

An Indelicate Balance

The Goat, or who is Savage?

Bump for more Terry Talk.

Is he still attending the Seattle Symphony in his ludicrous outfits?

Theyre both bad in the face. Dan has no chin and Terry looks like a monkey. Both are too worked out and look ridiculous. They’re both 60 shouldn’t they be over all this posing and fabulousness by now?