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Billy Miller is DEAD TO ME!

Three time Emmy winner for Y and R. Beautiful man. Only 43.

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by Anonymousreply 305December 4, 2023 7:18 PM


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by Anonymousreply 2September 17, 2023 10:14 AM

Yeah. Very talented guy but when on Y&R back in the day seemed seriously amped.

by Anonymousreply 3September 17, 2023 10:18 AM

That said, he could have been manic…

by Anonymousreply 4September 17, 2023 10:19 AM


by Anonymousreply 5September 17, 2023 10:19 AM

Were he and Monaco still together?

by Anonymousreply 6September 17, 2023 10:21 AM

Guess we’re stuck with Jason Thompson forever now. But seriously, this is sad, tragic news.

by Anonymousreply 7September 17, 2023 10:21 AM

MF’s site isn’t working and he’s the only one reporting it.

Tweets are saying he committed suicide.

by Anonymousreply 8September 17, 2023 12:50 PM

I saw Alan Locher had it on his Facebook page.

And also said today would have been his 44th birthday.

Very sad. I don't know if it was drugs or suicide but he was very watchable on screen, especially as Billy on Y&R.

by Anonymousreply 9September 17, 2023 1:08 PM

His time on GH reinvigorated that moribund soap, and just underlined how overrated Steve Burton was. Very sad news. So good-looking with a natural charm and talent, but I always got the sense this was an angry guy with a lot of demons (in real life). Such a shame.

by Anonymousreply 10September 17, 2023 1:14 PM

[quote]Were he and Monaco still together?

No. Monaco recently threw him under the bus at some fan event.

by Anonymousreply 11September 17, 2023 1:23 PM

[quote] Monaco recently threw him under the bus at some fan event.

Manaco....once a miserable fucking cunt, always a miserable fucking cunt.

by Anonymousreply 12September 17, 2023 1:27 PM

Really shocking. I had hoped in the back of my mind that GH would bring him back as Drew since Mathison is so bad in the role.

by Anonymousreply 13September 17, 2023 1:28 PM

Ausiello at TVLine

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by Anonymousreply 14September 17, 2023 1:35 PM

I stopped watching some time ago, but WTF is the deal with Drew? He was supposed to be Jason's never-before-known identical twin (even his own mother didn't know she had had twins, LOL) yet he looked nothing like Steve Burton. This was explained away by the obligatory soap excuse of "extensive plastic surgery" following some drastic explosion; apparently they also managed to alter his height, voice, and body type. Then he gets hurriedly written off (I think Miller wanted out after the usual horrible writing), presumed dead yet again.

Now he's recast by someone who looks nothing like him or Burton. Did they even bother with an explanation this time? Honestly, these shows are lot better off not explaining new actors. Everyone knows what happened behind the scenes so what's the point of foisting preposterous chestnut stories on the audience? Speaking of which, last I heard Jason was also now presumed dead for what has to be at least the fifth or sixth time. Imagine how much money the Quartermaines have wasted on sham funerals!

by Anonymousreply 15September 17, 2023 1:38 PM

Wow. Met him a few times through work. Yeah he seemed really amped.

by Anonymousreply 16September 17, 2023 1:40 PM

If and when the Daytime Emmys get around to happening this year, they’re going to be all In Memoriam.

by Anonymousreply 17September 17, 2023 1:45 PM

His Wiki page has him deceased.

by Anonymousreply 18September 17, 2023 1:46 PM

R18 Yes, I think that was established in OP's post. What is your point?

by Anonymousreply 19September 17, 2023 1:49 PM

His restaurant partner confirmed his passing.

And there’s been no explanation R15.

Monaco tweeted about Billy’s GH exit and promised to reveal what really happened. Either Frank or the show shut her up because she deleted those tweets and never said anything else about it. She really isolated herself to him during his time on GH and was a real asshole about it.

by Anonymousreply 20September 17, 2023 1:50 PM

r20, then just a month or so ago at the GH Fan Event she said he pressured her into their bad behavior after SB returned and she regretted going along with it. She basically put it all on him yet they both tanked scenes for well over a year in solidarity.

by Anonymousreply 21September 17, 2023 1:58 PM

I'm sure she'll play The Widow Miller to everyone on set. More attention for her.

by Anonymousreply 22September 17, 2023 1:59 PM

I don’t think they were really in touch or even friends after he left. He moved to Texas a few years back with his girlfriend that he was on and off with during the Monaco years.

by Anonymousreply 23September 17, 2023 2:07 PM

Not true R21. What is wrong with you?

by Anonymousreply 24September 17, 2023 2:12 PM

A slew of "he passed" posts online.

Passed gas? Passed the bar exam?

by Anonymousreply 25September 17, 2023 2:27 PM

NYP . . .

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by Anonymousreply 26September 17, 2023 2:33 PM

Was he high here?

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by Anonymousreply 27September 17, 2023 2:35 PM

R27 - Doesn't seem stoned to me, but maybe he'd a had a couple of drinks. Not drunk, but a little buzzed and fuzzy. It happens. I don't know much about his private life, but it sounds like he had some kind of debilitating infirmity as a small child? Certainly appears to have overcome it.

by Anonymousreply 28September 17, 2023 2:39 PM

I'd never heard of him, but he was very handsome. That's really sad.

by Anonymousreply 29September 17, 2023 2:41 PM

r24, it is true and nothing wrong with me. Her sudden switching sides at the fan event was discussed on the GH thread here and other forums after the fan event. She supposedly cried at the event expressing her regret in participating. I'm not trashing him, I'm saying she's obviously two faced and he couldn't have forced her to do anything she didn't want to as she was the one had the seniority and clout at GH not him and she could do as she pleased.

by Anonymousreply 30September 17, 2023 2:43 PM

R30 - I imagine Monaco is terrified of losing her job on GH. I mean, all she ever really had was her looks and big tits. But she's now 47 and she must know her days are numbered before she becomes background, and eventually written off. If she has half a brain, she'll do everything she can to stay on the right side of ABC and Frank.

by Anonymousreply 31September 17, 2023 2:48 PM

I hope it wasn’t suicide. His last IMDb credit was just last year. Above poster said he moved back to Texas, so maybe he just decided to give up on acting. I really thought his talent, looks, and the heat surrounding his three Emmy wins, he would be able to transition more successfully to a prime time series, streaming or film work. Just sad all around.

by Anonymousreply 32September 17, 2023 2:48 PM

So sad. I'm sure the cause of death will come out in the coming days.

by Anonymousreply 33September 17, 2023 3:22 PM

Has Amelia Heinle issued a statement?

by Anonymousreply 34September 17, 2023 3:53 PM

He had one of the best chests I’ve ever seen on a dude.

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by Anonymousreply 35September 17, 2023 4:00 PM

By far, he was the sexiest Billy Abbott.

by Anonymousreply 36September 17, 2023 4:01 PM

I don’t understand the soap opera recasting procedure. Billy Miller was stocky, muscular and blonde. Jason Thompson is slender and dark. Every other Billy had been blonde as well. It’s about as odd as the hairy, gruff, thickset Scotsman Thorsten Kaye taking over the role of Ridge on B&B from the muscular, Speedo-wearing, chiseled out of stone pretty boy Ron Moss.

by Anonymousreply 37September 17, 2023 4:14 PM

R37 it's usually one of four things:

1) They want to take the character in a different direction.

2) They want to recast with a "get". A "get" = a popular actor from another show or a primetime actor

3) They want to hire a friend.

4) In rare cases, the person auditioning, even though different from the previous actor, is the best for the part.

by Anonymousreply 38September 17, 2023 4:19 PM

Don’t know if this contains any truth but sharing…

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by Anonymousreply 39September 17, 2023 4:19 PM

He was supposed to be 5'11".

by Anonymousreply 40September 17, 2023 4:42 PM

R37 in the case of Billy Abbott, I think they just gave up trying to cast a blonde actor when JT became available. The role has had many actors. I was hoping Miller would come back one day, but they’re satisfied with Thompson, and he’s won an Emmy for the role also, so oh well.

I really don’t know what they were thinking with Kaye on BB. Hobo Ridge as we call him. None of the sexiness and Prince Charming qualities Moss had in spades. Maybe some of the hot soap actors in Moss’s age range weren’t interested, or didn’t audition right, so they went with Kaye.

by Anonymousreply 41September 17, 2023 4:45 PM

Net Worth and Salary

Billy Miller’s net worth is more than $3 million. with another source of his fortune coming from owning the 4M company.

by Anonymousreply 42September 17, 2023 4:46 PM

R41 I think TPTB wanted a Ridge who could act and not just grunt his lines and strut around in a thong.

by Anonymousreply 43September 17, 2023 4:50 PM

I'll out live all you punks.

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by Anonymousreply 44September 17, 2023 4:52 PM

Some nudes.

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by Anonymousreply 45September 17, 2023 4:59 PM

Ronn Moss is one of those actors whose acting never improved the slightest bit in his 25 years on B&B. You'd think all those scenes with Flannery would have taught him a few things. But he was awful to the very end.

by Anonymousreply 46September 17, 2023 5:01 PM

Flannery always spoke highly of Ronn, but surely she knew his acting was atrocious

by Anonymousreply 47September 17, 2023 5:07 PM

r45 just shirtless

by Anonymousreply 48September 17, 2023 5:08 PM

Has Brendad commented?

by Anonymousreply 49September 17, 2023 5:10 PM

R30, she literally did not mention him at her FCW event last month. WTF.

by Anonymousreply 50September 17, 2023 5:29 PM

I guess heaven just needed another angel built like a brick shit house.

by Anonymousreply 51September 17, 2023 5:31 PM

Somewhere up there, Billy Miller is freed and moves with the speed of a thousand jaguars, because Wilma Jeanne is right behind him, talons locking in on her target.

Have fun you two crazy kids!

by Anonymousreply 52September 17, 2023 5:32 PM

R31 Kelly has never had to worry about her job at GH. She didn’t wake up in scenes until Billy came along. She is an asshole on set and has been for years because she knows her job is secure. She has talked about bts crew avoiding her because they have some kind of perception about her. Doesn’t matter. She will always have a job there. That started in the Frons days and has continued with every regime. It’s kind of crazy compared to Herbst.

by Anonymousreply 53September 17, 2023 5:32 PM

R43 Moss can’t act. Everyone knows this. The show was never about this great troop of actors doing serious drama (Flannery is a powerhouse. Really the only one and no one really close to her.) The show has always been escapist entertainment. Kaye arguably might be a better actor, but he looks like he needs a shower most of the time. Moss really brought the romantic, fantasy element to the show,

by Anonymousreply 54September 17, 2023 5:33 PM

His manager didn’t confirm a cause of death in her statement to EW but said he was struggling with manic depression recently.

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by Anonymousreply 55September 17, 2023 5:33 PM

[quote]Kelly has never had to worry about her job at GH.

As was reported on DL years ago, I think we all know why. 😉

by Anonymousreply 56September 17, 2023 5:36 PM

Ron Moss looks like a romance novel cover himbo who enjoys a good Cabernet. Thorsten Kaye looks like the type who only showers three times a week and would knock back a few pints with you at the bar. I will admit that Kaye has great tits and a nice big ass, as displayed on the show the other day.

by Anonymousreply 57September 17, 2023 5:36 PM

I remember being struck when pale, redheaded Julianne Moore took over the role of Frannie on ATWT from the previous blonde actress. whose name escapes me.

by Anonymousreply 58September 17, 2023 5:37 PM

It doesn't surprise me that he had a manic depression. He had a weird energy about him as Billy Abbott.

by Anonymousreply 59September 17, 2023 5:38 PM

Don’t forget what a bitch that Erica Kane was to him. Pushing him out of the hospital window while he was hooked up in a coma.

by Anonymousreply 60September 17, 2023 5:42 PM

Kin Shriner (hmmmmm?) and Eileen Davidson have both posted the expected kind remarks on Twitter.

by Anonymousreply 61September 17, 2023 5:44 PM

Obviously Susan Dey gets a pass on this one.

by Anonymousreply 62September 17, 2023 5:45 PM

Has Scoche Marin issued a statement?

by Anonymousreply 63September 17, 2023 5:45 PM

That bitch!

by Anonymousreply 64September 17, 2023 5:47 PM

A little known fact... Before Jeanne Cooper died, the next big story for Katherine was that she was going to cheat on Murphy on Billy Abbott.

by Anonymousreply 65September 17, 2023 5:48 PM

Cheat on Murphy *WITH* Billy Abbott.

by Anonymousreply 66September 17, 2023 5:50 PM

They were going to go back to nude scenes as part of it too.

by Anonymousreply 67September 17, 2023 5:50 PM

Wilma Jeanne was always fine with nude scenes as long as they were integral to the plot.

by Anonymousreply 68September 17, 2023 5:57 PM

[quote]Kelly Monaco posted he had a stroke and his rep concurred and that the stroke was a complication of a rare neurological disease, PSP, which he was diagnosed with 2 years ago. Google it. It is devastating. He suffered.

What Linda Ronstadt suffers from.

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by Anonymousreply 69September 17, 2023 6:39 PM

Manic depression can be horrible to live with. Explains why he seemed amped.

God bless him. Hard to imagine that level of emotional pain.

by Anonymousreply 70September 17, 2023 6:45 PM

r69 That's when I will cry like a rainstorm, when Linda dies.

by Anonymousreply 71September 17, 2023 6:48 PM

R71 are you THE Linda troll? (if yes....hi!)

by Anonymousreply 72September 17, 2023 6:48 PM

Yes, R72, it's me. Hello to you, too.

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by Anonymousreply 73September 17, 2023 6:55 PM

Kelly Monaco hasn’t posted anything. And his rep hasn’t confirmed his cause of death. That’s fake info from an AI-generated site.

by Anonymousreply 74September 17, 2023 6:56 PM

If Billy Miller's manager is already bringing Billy's manic depression into the conversation, I think we likely know the cause of death.

by Anonymousreply 75September 17, 2023 6:59 PM

R75 Reminds me of Naomi Judd's suicide. Remember the early reports said she died of "mental illness," leaving the public to read between the lines.

by Anonymousreply 76September 17, 2023 7:05 PM

[quote]The show was never about this great troop of actors

Oh, dear.

by Anonymousreply 77September 17, 2023 7:28 PM

And howl like the wind, R71

by Anonymousreply 78September 17, 2023 8:09 PM

Was it the AIDS?

by Anonymousreply 79September 17, 2023 8:11 PM

He had a hot ass but he couldn’t live forever.

by Anonymousreply 80September 17, 2023 8:16 PM

Has Chrissy LeBlanc issued a statement?

by Anonymousreply 81September 17, 2023 8:18 PM

He was so good. One of the best in soaps. This is so very sad. He spent 5 years in that children's hospital. He had weird problems with cartilage and couldn't walk. Not a great life.

Just very sad.

by Anonymousreply 82September 17, 2023 8:27 PM

A rep for the actor tells us Miller passed away Friday in Austin, TX. An exact cause hasn't been revealed, but we're told he was struggling with manic depression at the time of his death. His team suggests he may have taken his own life.

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by Anonymousreply 83September 17, 2023 8:47 PM

[quote] I'd never heard of him, but he was very handsome. That's really sad.

If they’re ugly, good riddance.

by Anonymousreply 84September 17, 2023 9:06 PM

Manic Depression? What decade is this?

by Anonymousreply 85September 17, 2023 9:07 PM

Some soap fans are proving their nuttiness today.

by Anonymousreply 86September 17, 2023 9:07 PM

How, R86?

by Anonymousreply 87September 17, 2023 9:10 PM

Was Bill a homo?

by Anonymousreply 88September 17, 2023 9:10 PM

There were rumors about Miller's depression (along with drinking) even when he was on Y&R ca. 2008-13.

by Anonymousreply 89September 17, 2023 9:12 PM

Alright, ENOUGH!

Was he gay? Are there nudes?

by Anonymousreply 90September 17, 2023 9:17 PM

r83 r84 r85 r87 r88 r89

by Anonymousreply 91September 17, 2023 9:18 PM

R87 in myriad ways.

The ones who are the Only Ones Who Know Exactly What Happened, the ones that claim he's still alive....the ones who think they're somehow secretly in on the real deal when they're fat basement dwelling agoraphobic lumps that know no one and nothing.

It's just been all over FB this morning, that sort of energy. It always is when a soap related news story breaks.

by Anonymousreply 92September 17, 2023 9:20 PM

Billy asks you to respect his privacy while he completes his transition.

by Anonymousreply 93September 17, 2023 9:25 PM

r93 this is Billy Miller, hon, not Billy Porter.

by Anonymousreply 94September 17, 2023 9:27 PM

R91, stop littering, you fucking cowardly loser.

Oooooooh, I blocked them, but I can't resist reading anyway.


by Anonymousreply 95September 17, 2023 9:36 PM


by Anonymousreply 96September 17, 2023 9:49 PM

Worth skulking around for, R96?

by Anonymousreply 97September 17, 2023 9:51 PM

Soap Opera Digest has a rundown of some of his fellow actors responding.

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by Anonymousreply 98September 17, 2023 10:13 PM

R98 Of course. Kate Linder had to chime in.

by Anonymousreply 99September 17, 2023 10:17 PM

R99 Well, Linder did play Billy's mother-in-law for awhile and was Delia's grandmother, so it's not like she and MIller never worked together.

by Anonymousreply 100September 17, 2023 10:26 PM


by Anonymousreply 101September 17, 2023 10:27 PM

I've never seen an actress with such an insignificant role excel so much at self promotion as Kate Linder. Maybe she should have used some of that energy into learning how to act and getting herself a real role someplace.

by Anonymousreply 102September 17, 2023 10:34 PM

R102 She's almost 76-years old. That ain't gonna happen. They satisfy Linder with that bare minimum guarantee that keeps her on contract and allows her to play the role of Y&R's Miss Hospitality.

by Anonymousreply 103September 17, 2023 10:46 PM

Kate Linder would go to the opening of an envelope.

Brendad would go to the opening of an envelope....but prefers to be at the opening of a zipper.

by Anonymousreply 104September 17, 2023 10:46 PM

Funnily, Linder's post is one of the smarm free reactions. Well done her.

by Anonymousreply 105September 17, 2023 10:52 PM

I heard the next big storyline involves Esther plotting to break up Victor and Nikki's marriage. Victor realizes after all these years that Esther is his one true love.

by Anonymousreply 106September 17, 2023 10:53 PM

r103 r105

by Anonymousreply 107September 17, 2023 10:53 PM

Quit littering, R107, you sad fucking no hoper.

by Anonymousreply 108September 17, 2023 10:56 PM

Well that's not gonna save Billy Millers, R106.

But it would be so hot.

by Anonymousreply 109September 17, 2023 10:57 PM

Fen and Kyle need to fall in love.

by Anonymousreply 110September 17, 2023 10:59 PM

I wish instead of all the current drivel on Y&R that the writers would just go completely off the rails and create stories for shock, excitement, and entertainment. In addition to the Esther/Victor pairing, Jill could find definitive proof that Kay Chancellor was a closet lesbian.

by Anonymousreply 111September 17, 2023 11:02 PM

R111 In order to make extra money for Christmas this year, Summer begins turning tricks on the bad side of Genoa City.

by Anonymousreply 112September 17, 2023 11:04 PM

JaBottom tires of the business rat race, and begins presenting hole on camera

by Anonymousreply 113September 17, 2023 11:06 PM

Refusing to accept menopause, Ashley has an abortion.

Every Friday!

by Anonymousreply 114September 17, 2023 11:06 PM

isn't it odd, how many actors are nuts?

by Anonymousreply 115September 17, 2023 11:08 PM

Entering her twilight years, Nikki discovers she's growing a dick.

by Anonymousreply 116September 17, 2023 11:08 PM

I skimmed through the entire thread and not one post about the cause of death???!!

by Anonymousreply 117September 17, 2023 11:09 PM

R117 Billy Miller's manager says he was suffering from depression. Draw your own conclusions.

by Anonymousreply 118September 17, 2023 11:10 PM

Lauren is rushed to the hospital after she gets a tampon stuck up her twat.

by Anonymousreply 119September 17, 2023 11:12 PM

[quote] Beautiful man

He really was. Troubled and the kind of guy you'd meet while he was on parole or something.

But dirty sexy. And hot. A wounded bird, in many ways.

by Anonymousreply 120September 17, 2023 11:17 PM

[quote]Lauren is rushed to the hospital after she gets a tampon stuck up her twat.

When she realizes Michael is on the other side of the curtain, with a similar problem, hilarity ensues!

by Anonymousreply 121September 17, 2023 11:18 PM

He was gorgeous... random question but does anyone know if he smoked? He seemed like a guy who always had a cig in one hand a drink in the other

by Anonymousreply 122September 17, 2023 11:20 PM

I like Esther.

Will there be an RIP slide on the end of tomorrow’s episode?

by Anonymousreply 123September 17, 2023 11:22 PM

R123 Not sure since he hasn't been on the show in nine years. and the role of Billy has been recast.

by Anonymousreply 124September 17, 2023 11:24 PM

Michael Muhney remembers Billy on Twitter (X).

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by Anonymousreply 125September 17, 2023 11:28 PM

R122 - He seems like he would have been a smoker (intense, antsy sort). Luckily, if that's true, it hadn't yet messed with his looks.

by Anonymousreply 126September 17, 2023 11:33 PM

Muhney really wants a job

by Anonymousreply 127September 17, 2023 11:49 PM

If you're on Instagram, check out Liz Hendrickson's stories before they disappear.


Also, the EP-HW who hired him at Y&R, Maria Arena Bell, has a lovely tribute to him on her page.

by Anonymousreply 128September 17, 2023 11:50 PM

Liz H's post is already gone, apparently.

by Anonymousreply 129September 18, 2023 12:03 AM

R129 Her numerous posts about Billy are still there. They're in her "Stories." There are about 17 posts right now. The oldest ones were put up 8 hours ago, so those one should be there for about another 6 hours.

by Anonymousreply 130September 18, 2023 12:08 AM

Is it bad to be a homo?

by Anonymousreply 131September 18, 2023 12:08 AM

typo ^ "for about another 16 hours"

by Anonymousreply 132September 18, 2023 12:09 AM

R130 I see no parts of her page marked "Stories."

by Anonymousreply 133September 18, 2023 12:20 AM

R100 but that's kind of the point; Kate chimes in on everyone and she's developed the rep for chiming in whether she really knew them or not; Michael Tylo? really?

But in fairness to her sites and pubs shouldn't be repeating her tweets.

In this case, she might have actually known Billy more but...because she always comes forward it loses its impact.

by Anonymousreply 134September 18, 2023 12:27 AM

Reminds me of Jonathan Jackson.

by Anonymousreply 135September 18, 2023 12:31 AM

He should have been a recast Lucky, but GH fans can't have nice things.

by Anonymousreply 136September 18, 2023 12:33 AM

I wonder what the other Y&R performers think of Kate Linder and her never-ending need for self promotion. Like when she submits herself for Emmy consideration despite having zero scenes of substance, do they just roll their eyes at her?

by Anonymousreply 137September 18, 2023 12:34 AM

He was on five episodes of "Suits." Has anyone asked the Duchess how she's doing?

by Anonymousreply 138September 18, 2023 12:35 AM

They’re there, r133. Ten of them. They go by quickly.

by Anonymousreply 139September 18, 2023 12:38 AM

I'll take your word that they are there for you but they aren't for me. I've spent an hour looking and I've had IG for years. Not sure why, must be a bug for me.

by Anonymousreply 140September 18, 2023 12:45 AM

My heart hurts for him.

by Anonymousreply 141September 18, 2023 12:49 AM
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by Anonymousreply 142September 18, 2023 12:49 AM

I read EH’s post. She made it seem as if they had a tumultuous relationship but were still always there for each other when needed. She even mentioned wanting to “punch him in the face” at times, or something along those lines.

by Anonymousreply 143September 18, 2023 12:50 AM

EH also retold the story about how she queefed during one of the bedroom scenes with BM, and they couldn't stop laughing.

by Anonymousreply 144September 18, 2023 12:52 AM

r140, does this help?

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by Anonymousreply 145September 18, 2023 1:13 AM

R133 To watch Instagram "stories" you tap the person's profile picture. You'll know if there are new stories to watch, if there's a ring around the profile picture. Tap on any story to view it, or swipe left to get to the next screen or story. Select x in the top right to exit someone's story and return to Feed. Stories only stay there for 24 hours.

by Anonymousreply 146September 18, 2023 1:28 AM

R139 r145 r146

by Anonymousreply 147September 18, 2023 1:30 AM

r50 "literally"

Oh, dear!

by Anonymousreply 148September 18, 2023 1:42 AM

Thanks for the help - I did see it, thanks R145

Apparently some weird permissions thing I've never seen before was missing and once I clicked OK it was fine.

Thanks all

by Anonymousreply 149September 18, 2023 2:16 AM

FUCK Michael Muhney on Twitter..."We left YR around the same time".....Bitch, YOU were FIRED and Billy Miller wasn't.

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by Anonymousreply 150September 18, 2023 2:54 AM

Christian Le Blanc basically confirming it was suicide on instagram.

by Anonymousreply 151September 18, 2023 4:04 AM

Any recent pictures? I bet he was fat when he died

by Anonymousreply 152September 18, 2023 4:13 AM

Miller also had a relationship with Y&R actress, Jessica Collins, who played "Avery Bailey Clark" on the show (2011-15). On one of their trips they went to New Orleans and stayed with Chrissy and his husband who showed them around the city, a typical thing for the couple to do with CLB's castmates.

by Anonymousreply 153September 18, 2023 5:40 AM

It's interesting that although he was almost 44, he never married or had children. Perhaps he realized that it wouldn't be the right thing for him

by Anonymousreply 154September 18, 2023 7:26 AM

This is just so sad.

by Anonymousreply 155September 18, 2023 7:27 AM

I believe he was struggling with his sexuality.

by Anonymousreply 156September 18, 2023 7:34 AM

Was he in some story line Hillary Clinton didn't like?

by Anonymousreply 157September 18, 2023 8:19 AM

[quote] It's interesting that although he was almost 44, he never married or had children.

It's been said in prior articles about Miller that when he was a child he spent five years as a patient of Texas Scottish Rite Hospital for Children due to a rare condition he suffered from known as Tarsal Coalition. I remember he used to participate in benefits for the hospital.

According to websites on Tarsal Coalition, it is a "genetically determined" condition, and "if one of a child’s parents has the condition, there is a chance that the child will also have it."

I have no idea what his thinking was, but things like that can factor into someone deciding whether or not to have children.

by Anonymousreply 158September 18, 2023 9:00 AM

I liked him as Billy, but I’m not surprised he killer himself. Winning 3 Emmys is an amazing feat…and he hasn’t done anything of significance since achieving that milestone nearly 10 years ago.

by Anonymousreply 159September 18, 2023 9:17 AM

Not to be morbid but I wonder how he did it? Did he leave a note? I would never kill myself at home. A motel 6 maybe.

by Anonymousreply 160September 18, 2023 9:40 AM

He won 3 Emmys in 5 years on YR. And that's not counting his GH nomination. This is sad.

by Anonymousreply 161September 18, 2023 9:53 AM

And if had not won any Emmys, r161, this would be less sad?

by Anonymousreply 162September 18, 2023 9:57 AM

I would have eaten his hole until I got to the small intestines. Now only the worms will be able to do that. Just my fucking luck.

by Anonymousreply 163September 18, 2023 10:11 AM

Who’s had him?

by Anonymousreply 164September 18, 2023 10:39 AM

R163, you sound classy.

by Anonymousreply 165September 18, 2023 10:53 AM

Surprisingly, he’s tied with Peter Bergman, Maurice Bernard, and Christian LeBlanc…who all have 3 Daytime Emmys.

by Anonymousreply 166September 18, 2023 11:19 AM

R156, on what basis?

by Anonymousreply 167September 18, 2023 12:25 PM

R156 oh ffs

He had a long time girlfriend for years till his death. What a pointless dumb comment.

by Anonymousreply 168September 18, 2023 12:55 PM

Not to mention he publicly dated 3 female costars.

by Anonymousreply 169September 18, 2023 12:55 PM

[quote]What a pointless dumb comment.

That's what's replaced the bitchery around here.

by Anonymousreply 170September 18, 2023 1:03 PM

R56: " As was reported on DL years ago, I think we all know why. 😉 "

IDK why, please tell me. I can't stand that mumbling slut.

by Anonymousreply 171September 18, 2023 1:21 PM

I really liked Billy on GH. He was the only reason I started watching the show again after Mumbles Teleprompter, Snarly, and Block of Wood ate the damn show. That said, he looked either amped or medicated in many of his scenes. I just assumed anyone having to work with the aging, mumbling slut KM would have to anesthetize themselves to endure her comatose " acting". RIP, Billy. You will be missed.

by Anonymousreply 172September 18, 2023 1:39 PM

Some of you really shouldn't be around other people.

by Anonymousreply 173September 18, 2023 1:59 PM

Soap Recasts. When it is a major character - it is usually because the exec producer wants a get or just likes how someone plays. With Ridge they wanted a named soap actor to replace the cardboard cut-out, Ronn Moss. They could not have gone any further from Ronn with Thorsten. They recast Throne a long time ago from another wooden actor Clayton Norcross who was beautiful but meh with Jeff Trachta. The reason? Brad Bell wanted to make Thorne and Macy a singing couple and Jeff could sing. Jeff originally tried out for Jack Abbot, then a few days later showed up as Thorne.

by Anonymousreply 174September 18, 2023 1:59 PM

I want the Ron Moss scarf collection to be willed to me when he dies. 🧣

by Anonymousreply 175September 18, 2023 2:05 PM

Didn't Steve Burton throw Billy under the bus somehow? Bernard and Burton get rid of all of the talented male actors out of jealousy and insecurity because they both suck and they know it. Bernard use to be a good actor but it has been years since he has put any effort into it.

by Anonymousreply 176September 18, 2023 2:12 PM

They threw BM, a much more talented, versatile and charismatic actor , under the bus for boring Sbu Jason. BM was the only Jason I ever liked. Not to mention they fired my fave Rebecca Buddig to accomodate Sbu's return. All for nothing, the Jasam chemistry was absolutely gone, as was the chemistry between him and Sonny and Carly and the stories were stagnant. 3/4 years later, he was gone. It was all for nothing.

by Anonymousreply 177September 18, 2023 2:28 PM

R176 Laura Wright also had a part in that.

by Anonymousreply 178September 18, 2023 2:29 PM

How does an actor tank a scene? I hear this a lot with GH, but I'm not sure how it works.

by Anonymousreply 179September 18, 2023 2:33 PM

Laura Wright is a backstabbing cunt.

by Anonymousreply 180September 18, 2023 2:33 PM

[quote]Some of you really shouldn't be around other people.

Copy that.

by Anonymousreply 181September 18, 2023 2:56 PM

Jess Walton has done a Susan Dey on this one.

by Anonymousreply 182September 18, 2023 2:56 PM

"Laura Wright is a backstabbing cunt. —There, I said it. "

Someone had to say it because it is true. We also had to endure years of her talentless boyfriend on GH. I will never understand why TPTB allowed them the power to ruin that show.

by Anonymousreply 183September 18, 2023 3:01 PM

She's snaggletoothed trailer trash that used to work at a convenience store. She must have blown the right person to be hired at Loving, and she polluted GL with her stank years before she went to GH, which has been in her toxic queef cloud for 18 years now.

by Anonymousreply 184September 18, 2023 3:19 PM

R184- Mole woman. Why doesn't she have those moles removed?

by Anonymousreply 185September 18, 2023 3:38 PM

I have not watched these shows since 2012 (I pretty much only watched Y&R and OLTL at the end)... Very surprised that Laura Wright made it as far as she has. She was horrid on Loving and horrid on GL when I would catch her on those..

Who is this "boyfriend" you are all taking about? But hell, very surprised this chick went anywhere. Average looks, average acting- not alot of charisma...


So sad to learn this about Billy- he really had charisma and talent to spare.

by Anonymousreply 186September 18, 2023 4:04 PM


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by Anonymousreply 187September 18, 2023 4:14 PM

R166, ahem.

by Anonymousreply 188September 18, 2023 4:37 PM

[quote]Surprisingly, he’s tied with Peter Bergman, Maurice Bernard, and Christian LeBlanc…who all have 3 Daytime Emmys.

Bergman, Bernard and LaBlanc (sounds like a law firm name) -- all their Emmys are in Best Lead Actor.

Billy Miller has three Emmys as well -- two in Supporting Actor and one in Lead Actor

As for Scott Cliofton, he also has three Emmys -- one in Younger Actor, one in Supporting Actor and one in Lead Actor

by Anonymousreply 189September 18, 2023 6:23 PM

Jess Walton has reposted the show's statement on Billy's death on her Twitter page.

by Anonymousreply 190September 18, 2023 6:25 PM

Tony Geary has EIGHT Lead Actor Emmys.

David Canary has SIX Lead Actor Emmys

Justin Deas has SIX Emmys as well -- four in Supporting Actor and two in Lead Actor. He also won for three different show -- ATWT, GL and Santa Barbara.

by Anonymousreply 191September 18, 2023 6:33 PM

I should have the most Emmys.

by Anonymousreply 192September 18, 2023 6:34 PM

Criticize Ronn all you want but he was the absolute incarnation of Ridge that Bill Bell wanted.

by Anonymousreply 193September 18, 2023 7:01 PM

Ronn actually has four daytime Emmys for producing the digital series The Bay.

by Anonymousreply 194September 18, 2023 7:26 PM

Bill Bell was known for hiring pretty boys and girls with limited acting experience and then giving them scenes with seasoned actors like Jeanne Cooper and Susan Flannery to show them the ropes. Oftentimes, that happened. Unfortunately, with Moss..... it did not.

by Anonymousreply 195September 18, 2023 7:26 PM

Jess Walton on Twitter.

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by Anonymousreply 196September 18, 2023 7:44 PM

Billy was an incredible actor with a generous spirit. He was more beloved on the set of Y&R than GH, however of no fault of his own. R.I.P. to him, we've lost a great talent.

by Anonymousreply 197September 18, 2023 8:00 PM

[quote]Bill Bell was known for hiring pretty boys and girls with limited acting experience

That strategy came from John Conboy in 1973. He knew audiences would watch beautiful people on their screens even if they had limited experience. Bill Bell understood the wisdom behind that.

by Anonymousreply 198September 18, 2023 8:02 PM

R38 Very accurate. In Billy's case, it was #2 & #3. Jill Farren Phelps preferred bringing in Jason Thompson, a "get" from GH, who's also a good friend of hers. He ended up on both Mal Young's & Josh Griffith's good sides as well, resulting in him staying on for so long.

by Anonymousreply 199September 18, 2023 8:03 PM

R50 Actually that did happen. It's not some smear campaign against her, and as someone mentioned, several different fans on different forums who attended one of her events were the ones who referenced her doing this, down to the crying.

by Anonymousreply 200September 18, 2023 8:05 PM

R191 And they were all HAMS from hell that overacted.

by Anonymousreply 201September 18, 2023 8:25 PM

What's wrong with overacting?

by Anonymousreply 202September 18, 2023 8:36 PM

JFP originally brought back the one-time, very popular David Tom to replace Miller. .. Unfortunately, her main concern was to hang on to "Villy" (Victoria and Billy) at all cost, and Tom didn't display much chemistry with Heinle, and he was let go after 13-weeks. .. Many viewers often said that Miller was so good that he could have had chemistry with a mop. Well, that was the case with Heinle's Boretoria, because whatever Villy had was pretty much him.

JFP then cast "Rawhide Billy" (Burgess Jenkins) in the role. He had a little more chemistry with Heinle, but the show's backup plan was to have Victoria's affair with Stitch come into play. (Recall, when they knew Miller wasn't renewing his contract, they quick put the increasingly popular Sean Carrigan on contract.) So the story shifted more to a triangle Billy-Victoria-Stitch triangle. Jenkins remained in the role almost two years. Then, Thompson became available. But as talented as he may be, many viewers still don't buy him as Billy.

by Anonymousreply 203September 18, 2023 8:36 PM

All three could ham it up when they wanted to, r201. And that was much of the time.

But they could give some heartfelt performances when they wanted to.

by Anonymousreply 204September 18, 2023 8:37 PM

Get the fuck out of my eyeline!

by Anonymousreply 205September 18, 2023 8:38 PM

Billy was one of the most talented sudsers ever. He also had a lot of pain and struggle throughout his life. Despite that, he had a good heart, which is hard to encounter in Burbank. At a time when gay people were oppressed beyond belief, they identified with his struggles and he theirs.

by Anonymousreply 206September 18, 2023 8:39 PM

Ha! Ha! I'll say.

by Anonymousreply 207September 18, 2023 8:51 PM

Nice statements from Jason.

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by Anonymousreply 208September 18, 2023 9:12 PM

R156 I believe YOU were struggling with his sexuality

by Anonymousreply 209September 18, 2023 9:15 PM

R203 Correct. However fans were clamoring for Billy Miller to return as Billy when both David Tom (nicknamed Baby Billy or Young Billy) & Burgess Jenkins (nicknamed Old Billy) weren't catching on. Billy originally left because he asked Jill for more outs once he renewed his contract, which she refused. She also had an attitude with him, which led him to walk, reportedly referencing her as a Cunt (that's the rumor) which actually echoed others opinions about her. Jill refused to rehire Billy, which is when GH offered him Jason. Jason Thompson knew his time on GH wasn't expected to last, for he was miserable while practically languishing in the background, so Jill brought him over to Y&R. He managed to stay because Mal Young & Josh Griffith both appreciated him, whereas Josh got rid of Gina Tognoni in favor of bringing his buddy Michelle back (who was pissed off at Frank for asking her to take a pay cut as Nina on GH, along with the cult storyline, while she reportedly wanted a raise. Josh gave her the money & freedom that she was expecting from Frank)

by Anonymousreply 210September 18, 2023 9:15 PM

Hans tweets:

[quote] We lost BILLY MILLER! It saddens me deeply! He was a very gifted actor! Amelia (Victoria) and I took him to dinner one evening while he was in tough negotiations, and I remember telling him to reconsider, because rarely is an actor given a part that describes him almost perfectly, and to not make the mistake I had seen some actors make over my 60’years in the business, that they are indispensable! Once an actor thinks that or is told that by some sycophants, they step onto a slippery road…usually to oblivion! “BILLY BOY” was not only a damn good actor but a nice man! May he rest in peace and meet up with KRISTOFF in the BEYOND, ‘the undiscovered country from whose bourn no Traveller returns “ and tell each other jokes! They were both loved by their colleagues!

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by Anonymousreply 211September 18, 2023 11:31 PM

Jason Thompson is horrible in everything he does. His poor excuse for acting and his trashy bird tattoos never appealed to me.

by Anonymousreply 212September 19, 2023 12:00 AM

Eric Braeden "solves" why Billy is dead. Move over Dr. Phil. There's a new asshole trying to take your shtick.

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by Anonymousreply 213September 19, 2023 12:08 AM

Suicide confirmed. How tragic.

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by Anonymousreply 214September 19, 2023 12:09 AM

Has FV been stupid enough to comment yet? Like HIS actions played no part in this mess.

by Anonymousreply 215September 19, 2023 12:15 AM

[quote]Like HIS actions played no part in this mess.

Frank had nothing to do with bringing Steve Burton back, thereby pushing Billy out of his starring role into a secondary role.

The was 100% Maurice who went over Frank's head to ABC.

by Anonymousreply 216September 19, 2023 12:19 AM

I hate both of them but please stop.....neither them or anyone else is responsible for what happened to BM.

by Anonymousreply 217September 19, 2023 12:20 AM

The real tragedy in situations like this.... many of his friends probably didn't even know Billy was sick and never thought to reach out.

by Anonymousreply 218September 19, 2023 12:29 AM

I’m guessing he was largely out of the industry at this point, hence his moving back to Texas. His last IMDb credit was last year, but it could’ve been filmed in 2021 for all we know. His declining mental condition might’ve been why he moved back home. Even though Patty Duke worked for years with her bi polar before being treated, everyone is different. Plus the offers might’ve dried up too. Just speculation. Too sad and tragic for words.

by Anonymousreply 219September 19, 2023 12:40 AM

The pandemic made many people's mental conditions worse, especially people who are bipolar.

by Anonymousreply 220September 19, 2023 12:45 AM

[quote] ... many of his friends probably didn't even know Billy was sick and never thought to reach out.

As someone who's been pretty close to two bipolar people, I can tell you that reaching out is one thing, getting them to do something about it is quite another. .. When they're up, they're not going to listen to you. Everything's great, or they're not even around because they've got places to go, people to meet, which can include sex and drugs, etc. In short, there's no reasoning with them during this period. .. And when they're down, you may not even be able to wake them up. Sleeping 20 hours at a time, for days on end. .. And getting them to do something about their problem during that small window of opportunity when they're behaving "normal" can be hard, because they might not even remember the manic period and make excuses for the down period (or they haven't got time, because they've fucked something up in their life and have to work on correcting that first). Getting on proper meds can be trial and error finding the right one or combination of drugs and sticking with that routine isn't guaranteed.

I can honestly say that trying to reach out to the bipolar people I know to get help for themselves has been (and still is) far more difficult than getting people I've known with substance abuse problems see the light and get sober.

by Anonymousreply 221September 19, 2023 1:07 AM

R221 yes.

I know two bipolar people that went off the rails in the last few years.

One of them had a tragic event happen in their family and that's made them even more manic/up and down. The other one is now in prison.

by Anonymousreply 222September 19, 2023 1:10 AM

Thanks for sharing that r221. Much appreciated.

by Anonymousreply 223September 19, 2023 1:12 AM

I am sorry but I am very disappointed when families confirm a suicide but do NOT disclose their method of dying. As a fan I think I have a right to know. And NO I am not kidding. I want to know details.

by Anonymousreply 224September 19, 2023 1:13 AM

R224 you deserve nada.

by Anonymousreply 225September 19, 2023 1:15 AM

R224 is Wynonna Judd

by Anonymousreply 226September 19, 2023 1:17 AM

R226 No I am not. I miss the days when the suicide was explained.

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by Anonymousreply 227September 19, 2023 1:24 AM

R224 Gee, if it means that much to you, then go right ahead and contact the Travis County Medical Examiner's office and request a copy of the autopsy report.

Per Article 49.25 of the Texas Code of Criminal Procedures, one of the categories that the Medical Examiner investigates and reports on is suicide.

And according to the Texas Public Information Act, "an autopsy report is public information and may be released to anyone who requests a copy unless there is an exception under the law."

by Anonymousreply 228September 19, 2023 1:27 AM

R227 if he slashed his wrists, hung himself, or swallowed a bottle of pills the end result is the same in Millers case. What matters is this talented, beautiful man is dead and he’s not coming back. His mother is devastated by all this. She didn’t even have to share what she did.

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by Anonymousreply 230September 19, 2023 1:33 AM

R228 Thank You. I did google suicides in the Austin area but came up empty. Maybe TMZ has the info? I like to know how celebrities off themselves in case I ever need to go down that road.

by Anonymousreply 231September 19, 2023 1:42 AM

Some are comparing Billy's situation to Angus Cloud's; like Angus, Billy lost his father as well, in January, so dealing with his loss along with his manic depression were most likely contributing factors. Also yesterday was Billy's birthday. It's just terrible all around.

by Anonymousreply 232September 19, 2023 2:08 AM

R231 - What road?

Stoney end, Rose!

by Anonymousreply 233September 19, 2023 2:22 AM

R231 et must be our resident soap troll

by Anonymousreply 234September 19, 2023 2:39 AM

Oh, to see his magnificent tits just one more time!

by Anonymousreply 235September 19, 2023 3:40 AM

Some random old queen is claiming to be Billys "second cousin" and jumping into the whole thing. At least he used a good photo.

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by Anonymousreply 236September 19, 2023 4:48 AM

R231, why would you think Google would show that he killed himself? That private info right now unless the family says something.

by Anonymousreply 237September 19, 2023 6:14 AM

We don’t say manic depression anymore.

by Anonymousreply 238September 19, 2023 6:33 AM

Eric Braeden's posting was sweet & sincere imo which can also be attributed to various other Y&R cast members, who were actually nice to Billy while he was there.

Maurice Bernard, on the other hand, is posting all sorts of "tributes" saying he wish he would've known Billy was suffering from the same disease as him, which can be some sort of survivors guilt, for he was an asshole to Billy while he was there. It's worth mentioning again that Maurice went over Frank's head to get his "preferred Jason back" in Steve; I know it was mentioned already in this thread, however it's sad how he continues to blame his mistreatment of certain costars on his disease, whole others who have it don't necessarily behave in the same manner as him.

by Anonymousreply 239September 19, 2023 6:36 AM

Fucking copy cat……I did it first and better

by Anonymousreply 240September 19, 2023 6:38 AM

[quote]I am sorry but I am very disappointed when families confirm a suicide but do NOT disclose their method of dying. As a fan I think I have a right to know. And NO I am not kidding. I want to know details.

Yes, how thoughtless of his mother not to appease the morbid curiosity of someone as twisted as you.

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by Anonymousreply 243September 19, 2023 10:02 AM

Here you go.

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by Anonymousreply 244September 19, 2023 2:27 PM

Why share the shitty, awful Post? Nothing in that article was special, it was available from many less evil sources.

by Anonymousreply 245September 19, 2023 2:39 PM

Another whine against Murdoch. Sigh.

by Anonymousreply 246September 19, 2023 5:44 PM

I almost spit my coffee out when reading that NY Post line:

[quote] He also had credits in the Meghan Markle-fronted “Suits,”

by Anonymousreply 247September 19, 2023 7:28 PM

I live in Los Angeles and have heard how he did it. But this it is very second hand, smells like a rumor etc. I won’t post it for those reasons so please don’t ask. I am serious. RIP.

by Anonymousreply 248September 19, 2023 11:44 PM

R248 Why bother?

by Anonymousreply 249September 20, 2023 12:24 AM

In some way, I actually agree with R224 about publicly saying how he died, but for an entirely different reason than somehow feeling entitled to know because you're a fan.

Why? Because we're now going to get idiots speculating and posting bad rumors based on nothing but made-up bull crap, which then gets repeated and manipulated further to sound like fact. Some of this garbage is put together by bots and comes off like an official news report. One I read has known falsehoods in it, but sounds real. It's sick.

The mom indicated that she stepped forward to tell the truth about the suicide because of all the shit she was hearing about on the Internet. .. And while she doesn't plan to come back, she might have to in order to stop the next load of garbage from continuing.

A simple statement of what he did by someone with the authority to do so might be better than having to put up with all that.

by Anonymousreply 250September 20, 2023 12:55 AM

I find this part of the mother's comments odd:

The actor's mother said that the other causes of death being reported "are not true."

"I wish they were but they just aren’t," she said.

by Anonymousreply 251September 20, 2023 2:36 AM

R251 = Yeah...THAT line made me want clarification of how he offed himself.

by Anonymousreply 252September 20, 2023 2:46 AM

R251 the woman is a wreck right now. She just means if he had to go, she wished it was by natural means, instead of him taking his own life. I don’t find it that odd.

by Anonymousreply 253September 20, 2023 3:01 AM

Victoria Rowell is somehow hopping in to “help”:

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by Anonymousreply 254September 20, 2023 3:21 AM

They should find Drucilla and bring her back. I loved how she could stick it to that cunt Phyllis, who continues to have no reason to live.

by Anonymousreply 255September 20, 2023 3:59 AM

Those are the same two Mac books Rowell was trying to sell three weeks ago for $300 each. RME.

by Anonymousreply 256September 20, 2023 4:08 AM

Victoria Rowell = "Buy my stuff. For BILLY".....oh my...She isn't even donating to a mental health cause or to the Texas Hospital that helped Billy as a child. What a fucking nerve.

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by Anonymousreply 257September 20, 2023 4:13 AM

R257, clearly, she's been hacked.

Anyone could see right through that transparent tweet.

by Anonymousreply 258September 20, 2023 5:32 AM

Elizabeth Hendrickson has been accused of going overboard with her grieving for Billy, saying how he turned her world upside down while sharing pictures along with private text messages. Some are saying it's not only disrespectful to her husband, it's disrespectful to Billy's memory, for he was more of a private person. Elizabeth apparently cheated on Billy while they were together, she also "allegedly" was too busy kissing up to Maurice while practically ignoring Billy during her GH stint.

by Anonymousreply 259September 20, 2023 1:10 PM

Yet Matthew Perry still walks among us!

by Anonymousreply 260September 20, 2023 4:22 PM


I know this is a foreign concept to the sick fucks insisting on knowing how he offed himself, since you yourself have never known what it means, but maybe crack out the thesauras and try to understand it.

by Anonymousreply 261September 20, 2023 4:24 PM

R259, Elizabeth did the write thing by playing up to Maurice. That's how you stay on GH.

Ironic, she got the boot; I kind of liked Margaux.

by Anonymousreply 262September 20, 2023 4:25 PM

Digest will have its Billy tribute out a week from Monday and it'll be nothing but already posted Instagram posts.

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by Anonymousreply 264September 20, 2023 5:02 PM

[quote]she also "allegedly" was too busy kissing up to Maurice while practically ignoring Billy during her GH stint.

Apparently, that's the way he was treated by much of the GH cast. Except Kelly Monaco.

He was very unhappy there. Especially after Steve Burton returned.

by Anonymousreply 265September 20, 2023 5:13 PM

R259 I saw nothing wrong with what she said...who's complaining?

by Anonymousreply 266September 20, 2023 5:36 PM

Has Robert Tyler commented?

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by Anonymousreply 267September 20, 2023 5:43 PM

R266 No one is. I have yet to see anyone be anything but moved by her tribute. But she's always had a few unhined, *lunatic haters, so I guess that may be where it's coming from.

by Anonymousreply 268September 20, 2023 5:47 PM

R265, in fairness to the GH cast Billy was -- clearly -- unhappy in life. Braeden posted that he and Heinle took him out to dinner to try to convince him to stay. He was the best Billy Abbott and he found his role. He wasn't Drew. Jason isn't Billy. Genie Francis wasn't Genevieve.

For god's sake, these actors land roles of a life time and if they don't know, they have people in their lives telling them they have.

Billy walked because he didn't get everything he wanted at Y&R; I can't imagine they said not to a pilot out or an out if he's picked up as a series regular. That's what Justin must have had for THIS IS US. In the meantime, keep the money coming in and keep winning DT Emmys.

I'd heard Billy was picked up right before a deal was worked out with Steve to return as Jason; hence, we got Drew.

I know a lot of actors; some never make it. Billy landed his role; think of all the money he'd have made if he'd stayed at Y&R. The big question is why did Y&R never 'Tognoni' Jason and bring Billy back. I wish they had. He might be alive and Jason could be back at GH playing Patrick. Where he belongs.

But maybe none of this matters; maybe he was just fated to leave this earth when he did.

by Anonymousreply 269September 20, 2023 8:23 PM

[quote]I'd heard Billy was picked up right before a deal was worked out with Steve to return as Jason; hence, we got Drew.

Please explain what you mean here. Billy started at GH in 2014. Steve Burton returned in 2017.

by Anonymousreply 270September 20, 2023 8:44 PM

R262 Unfortunately I'm well aware of how much ass kissing it takes to keep Maurice satisfied. Frank began his ass kissing campaign shortly after he saw firsthand how dirty Maurice can get when he organized that mutiny to have Ron fired.

Right or not, there were some complaining that she didn't have to dissociate herself from Billy in favor of Maurice. Also, as mentioned, she ended up being let go anyway. For what it's worth, she's been in talks, allegedly, with Frank to return.

by Anonymousreply 271September 20, 2023 8:51 PM

R265 He was close to Donnell Turner as well. Right after Kelly, while he was there, Donnell was like his closest male friend.

by Anonymousreply 272September 20, 2023 8:53 PM

[quote] Billy walked because he didn't get everything he wanted at Y&R; I can't imagine they said not to a pilot out or an out if he's picked up as a series regular. That's what Justin must have had for THIS IS US. In the meantime, keep the money coming in and keep winning DT Emmys.

I think the difference back then is that MAB -- who originally hired Billy and absolutely adored him -- was willing to do everything she could to keep him at Y&R, so she was willing to give him those one-year contracts and 'outs' after his initial contract was up. .. Then JFP came in, so things probably changed. .. And from what I remember, the Justin Hartley deal that came while JFP was there had more to with Anjelica McDaniel (CBS). .. Justin was a big 'get' for her, since he was a known primetime commodity, which was a McDaniel thing, so whatever deal they needed to secure him and give him what he wanted was directed by her.

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by Anonymousreply 273September 20, 2023 8:55 PM

R266 Soap fans here and there were complaining on different forums. Nothing major, they just commented on how she was going overboard, especially since she cheated on him

by Anonymousreply 274September 20, 2023 8:59 PM

2 things. GH sounds like a toxic work environment. I know Days just went through some producer drama, but I don't think you've got actors backstabbing each other and you've got to kiss this one's ring to remain employed. That just sounds horrible.

#2 - If you want to keep good actors you have to let them stretch. Jill was shortsighted in not giving Billy the outs he wanted. It's not 1985 any longer, soaps can adjust. The was a middle ground.

by Anonymousreply 275September 20, 2023 9:07 PM

[quote] Jill was shortsighted in not giving Billy the outs he wanted. It's not 1985 any longer, soaps can adjust. The was a middle ground.

Jill's not exactly known for flexibility.

by Anonymousreply 276September 20, 2023 9:12 PM

R270 Yeah I think that might have been a typo.

Steve quit GH in 2012 because he didn't want to work under Frank and Ron, who refused to give in to his "outs" for one thing, which were catering to his bicoastal lifestyle (living in Tennessee, working in LA) yet his friend Jill was more than willing to accommodate him, bringing him onboard as Dylan. Billy couldn't get the outs he wanted at Y&R under Jill, so he quit and ended up on GH in 2014. Frank gave him a one-year contract every year at Billy's request, he also allowed various outs to him. Unfortunately, Frank laid him off in 2019 while refusing to renew his yearly contract, which apparently blindsided Billy (Frank refused to renew Tamara Braun's contract as well). Rumors were that they were planning to pair Billy's Drew with Terry (for those who don't watch GH, Terry is a MTF transsexual doctor) since he wasn't too thrilled with his Drew/Kim storyline (she was trying to rape him and have his baby, since their teenage son Oscar lost his battle with cancer)

by Anonymousreply 277September 20, 2023 9:14 PM

R275 Exactly. GH is "rumored" to be the most toxic set out of all four current soaps. Besides that producer drama at DOOL, I've only heard of a few actors not getting along with each other, which is common in every workplace, however not to the extent of GH.

Right. Especially when she gives certain perks to friends of hers, yet not to others

by Anonymousreply 278September 20, 2023 9:19 PM

[quote] Jill was shortsighted in not giving Billy the outs he wanted. It's not 1985 any longer, soaps can adjust. The was a middle ground.

To Jill, losing Billy Miller meant she could play her boy, Steve Burton, even more.

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by Anonymousreply 279September 20, 2023 9:20 PM

[quote]Frank laid him off in 2019 while refusing to renew his yearly contract, which apparently blindsided Billy

Can't blame Frank for not renewing the contract. By that point, Billy had been phoning it in for more than a year. And by phoning it in, he tanked many scenes and many potential pairings. His poor performances tanked the character of Drew.

I'm not saying Billy didn't have reason to be angry. He was sidelined in favor of Steve Burton, he was treated like badly by Maurice and his followers, he was given lackluster storylines. But at the same time, Billy phoned in his performance which just made matters worse.

by Anonymousreply 280September 20, 2023 9:23 PM

R280 No, not blaming Frank, just shedding a light on the situation. However, his manic depression can certainly explain why going from Jason to Drew, along with losing our in his Dream pairing, possibly exacerbated his illness. I'm just sorry he felt this was his only solution. Although unconfirmed, apparently he wasn't seriously involved with his significant other Erin at the time of his death either, even though they were together for awhile in Texas. He also had a condition from childhood that he most likely didn't want his future children to inherit, which has some believing that's why he never had any children. He just seemed like a troubled soul.

by Anonymousreply 281September 20, 2023 9:52 PM

Steve Burton should have stayed put at GH in 2012.

Billy Miller should have stayed put at Y&R in 2014.

by Anonymousreply 282September 20, 2023 11:11 PM


Yes to #2

Hell NO to #1...never happier with one major character leaving a soap...his absence was and is a breath of fresh air.

by Anonymousreply 283September 21, 2023 12:24 AM

Billy dedication at the end of YR today

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by Anonymousreply 284September 21, 2023 6:25 PM

I suppose a 10-second dedication is better than nothing.

by Anonymousreply 285September 21, 2023 11:22 PM

Well, it been 9 1/2 years since Billy was last on Y&R.

by Anonymousreply 286September 21, 2023 11:24 PM

Most former actors only get a black screen.

by Anonymousreply 287September 21, 2023 11:25 PM

[quote]but maybe crack out the thesauras and try to understand it.

Crack out the what now?

by Anonymousreply 288September 22, 2023 12:12 AM

R270, I meant that BIlly was up in 2017; the show decided to keep him and right after that ...Steve came back.

If the timing had worked out differently, the show would have let Billy go and there would be no Drew and Steve would have just come back and taken the part back.

by Anonymousreply 289September 22, 2023 1:24 AM

R279 that pic says everything.

its' not the fans who have unrealistic relationships with the talent; it's the people behind the screen

by Anonymousreply 290September 22, 2023 1:25 AM

all this producer being friends with actors and them jumping ships is better story than what we see on air.

by Anonymousreply 291September 22, 2023 1:27 AM

Jill Farren Phelps is basically Weinstein in a dress.

by Anonymousreply 292September 22, 2023 3:29 AM

[quote]Yet Matthew Perry still walks among us!

And Donald Trump still waddles down ramps!

by Anonymousreply 293September 22, 2023 7:36 AM

I’m having a hard time with this. It just makes me so sad. I lost a brother to mental illness and it stings. Drew (which was also my brother’s name) always seemed out of place on GH. He was only one of a few actors I connected with on GH. I stopped watched soon after soon he left.

Maybe ‘Days’ would have utilized him better.

by Anonymousreply 294September 22, 2023 11:54 AM

R294 Sorry about your brother. It's terrible that he was suffering as much as he was mentally. I once heard about a fan encounter he had while he was dating Kelly; the two of them were out at a restaurant somewhere in LA. A guy ran into them, explaining how he was fans of their characters/the show. According to him, they couldn't have been any nicer; they asked him where he was from, and when he said LA, they were surprised since they were usually approached by fans from out of state. He said they actually talked to him for awhile. Billy even wrote a "Thank You" letter to all his fans once he was laid off at GH. DAYS most likely wouldn't have brought him on because of their tough taping schedule; I think that B&B missed an opportunity to bring him on. The fact that he's at peace now is really the only bright light out of this darkness.

by Anonymousreply 295September 22, 2023 5:21 PM

His ex-flame from Y&R, Jessica Collins, put a nice slide show of photos of Billy up on her IG with the message:

[quote] My sweet friend. Thank you for all of it. #RIP 💔

As i recall they were together for quite some time even after he left the show.

I always thought they made a really good-looking couple and thought they looked fun together and just kind of fit. I was rather surprised when they broke up.

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by Anonymousreply 296September 22, 2023 7:03 PM

I’d like to see her back on a show.

by Anonymousreply 297September 22, 2023 9:36 PM

R297 If not on a soap, Jessica would make a great addition to some Food Network show. That cooking show thing Y&R had her "Avery" character doing wasn't just made up. IRL, she's quite the chef, a graduate of the cordon bleu college and ran some kind of bakery business.

by Anonymousreply 298September 22, 2023 10:31 PM

For all I know she’s already on a cooking show. Zzz

Would like to see her on something I’d watch. Lol

by Anonymousreply 299September 22, 2023 10:45 PM

Why did he die?

by Anonymousreply 300September 22, 2023 11:20 PM

R284 Billy would have been a gold star ⭐️ bottom

by Anonymousreply 301September 23, 2023 5:28 PM

Love this photo that Beth Maitland put up with Billy and Eileen Davidson.

While Peter Bergman isn't in this photo, The Abbots just seemed 'complete' when Miller was in the role.

Thompson was never right for the role, and it's like a piece is missing.

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by Anonymousreply 302September 23, 2023 7:53 PM

Billy was perfectly cast as the half brother of a the three older Abbott siblings; he was an Abbott but he was Jill's not Dina's.

Jill let BIlly walk out the door because he wasn't hers; she'd rather have shined the spotlight on Steve and Jason -- two people who aren't a big part of Y&R and never will be.

Bill Bell was friends with Susan Hayes going back to their time on DAYS; he hired her at Y&R as Joanna and that role didn't really work out. He wrapped up the character and wrote her off.

But other producers would rather send a show into the crapper before admitting they made a mistake.

by Anonymousreply 303September 24, 2023 3:17 AM

Thanks so much for that picture R302......it's great!!!

by Anonymousreply 304September 24, 2023 4:27 PM

Gunshot wound to the head

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