Any Heartstopper haters out there?

To paraphrase Alice Roosevelt Longworth, if you have nothing good to say about Heartstopper, come sit next to me.

It’s always the stans who make me hate the objects of their obsessions.

I put up an extremely snarky parody thread but nobody bit.

I watched this, it was kinda cute but SO unrealistic. They never even swore, there was only one fight, no drugs, not even weed or whisky, and nobody carried weapons. School I went to at that age all the kids had mouths like fuckin sewers, myself included, and weapons werent uncommon, eveything from knuckledusters to knives although generally most couldnt stretch to a handgun. Brawls were a weekly thing if not more.

The kids in that show were so polite, restrained and well behaved... fuck they wouldnt have lasted minutes at the school I was at

R4 in an American shit hole ghetto?

R5 no, school in a pretty rough area, was white working class but somewhat mixed by the late 70's early 80's when I was there. And not the US either

I’m not sure I’m in this program’s demographic, so I have not seen it. But loving the snark anyway…

The show is fine. The adult Stans are creepy as fuck.

The pasty white guy is down syndrome adjacent.

The blonde kid is fat. Interest ended right there. Haven't watched any of it.

[quote] The pasty white guy is down syndrome adjacent.

Which one?

The ugly one; one of the main characters. No idea what their names are.

The two or three times I’ve tried to read the threads here on DL, out of curiosity, almost everyone on the thread is an obsessive stan. It’s not like threads about other shows where posters talk back and forth about the merits of the writing or the acting, pro or con. Everybody [bold]loves[/bold] the show and the two leads, especially Joe Locke. If you attempt to suggest this scrawny, homely kid is not the most attractive guy ever, five or six posters swoop down to call you a hater or a troll. People post long, detailed stats about how many followers the leads have on social media and no one finds it excessive. Much of it reads like a parody, only it’s not.

R3 That’s a funny parody! Great job. Not a lot of people seem to be biting, here, either. I’m surprised at the uniformity of opinion about the show. I was hoping to get a discussion going.

R4 The show has very little realism, yet they present it as if it’s a real school with real people in it. It’s almost like a children’s story. This person is good, this one is bad. No subtlety. Cartoonish (it’s based on graphic novels, of course, that are themselves ultra-simplistic, like a greeting card, almost).

The music, by the way, is very bad and one of the reasons I couldn’t stand watching the show. Not that the songs are bad but they’re just inserted into almost every scene and blare over the action to create ‘mood’ often for no reason.

One or two supporting characters we’re supposed to like are insufferable.

There are also animated things like leaves and butterflies that are printed over the scenes and could have been good if used subtly (I guess) but are overdone and end up (like so much else in the show) seeming cringey.

The actors look too old. They could have upped the ages of the characters on the show, slightly, from mid-teens, to accommodate the casting of older teens.

[quote] People post long, detailed stats about how many followers the leads have on social media and no one finds it excessive. Much of it reads like a parody, only it’s not.

That’s like the Ben Barnes threads except with many more posts and much less hate for the subject of the threads.

It reminds me of the Miles-Connor threads. Thousands of posts and all of the same opinion.

OP, very few responses. You're mistaken.

R17 I’m mistaken about what?

I watched it and liked it well enough, OP. If they're anything like me, then the gay men who liked it probably saw it as a representation of the adolescence they sometimes wish they'd had themselves. It has nothing to say about gay life beyond that period, of course, as you'd expect.

There's nothing too profound here and it's clearly for teens, but the fact that it's gay-themed means that some gay adults may find it of interest.

As for the threads, I've never been in them. I imagine it's two or three people who write a couple of hundred posts a day each. Probably the single most bizarre thing on DataLounge right now.

Haven’t watched it, haven’t opened any of the threads until this one. Quite simple, really.

Well, that’s the point. It’s for teens but I doubt too many people posting about the show and the lead actors so gushingly on DL are teens.

If you haven’t been in the threads, you probably shouldn’t assume it’s two or three people posting. he threads quickly reach 600 posts all the time.

Anyway, if you liked the show this probably isn’t the thread for you but thanks for your post.

^^^Reply to R19

I said I liked it *well enough*. Which is not that different from your own assessment at the beginning.

As for the threads, I am well aware of how fast they fill up, I just choose not to visit them. They probably have those really weird, curator-type OPs. I hate people like that.

R23 I’m sorry if I gave that impression. I said it was extremely overrated and I couldn’t get through three episodes before quitting. How does that indicate I liked it well enough? I just wanted to indicated I wasn’t some virulent hater of the show or the cast. But I don’t actually like it.

*indicate

Maybe I gave the wrong impression saying I was not a hater per se. But I don’t think the show is good, I think it’s way overrated, and I found it to be stupid, pandering, unrealistic and badly done.

Okay, R26. I would respond but this isn't the thread for me, after all.

R27 Well it isn’t a thread to say good things about Heartstopper (even qualified ones) - there are plenty of threads for that. I’m not kicking anyone off the thread, you can always feel free to respond as far as I’m concerned, I just stared it, i don’t police or own it. But the thread is not pro-Heartstopper, obviously, nor for arguing for its merits.

*started

I've tried reading a few of the threads and I've concluded that it's mostly very young fans chatting about the actors and their relationships and activities outside of the show. It's like reading Tiger Beat.

[quote]If you haven’t been in the threads, you probably shouldn’t assume it’s two or three people posting. he threads quickly reach 600 posts all the time.

Because that never happens on DL

I find it pleasant enough but far from amazing or groundbreaking. It seems contrived to tick all the boxes to be 'inclusive' while still coming across as a lonely fat girl's romantic fantasy.

Very young fans on DL??

R31 The threads honestly don’t seem like 2 people posting.

r34 Yeah, just ignore the fact that you can block one poster and a third of the thread disappears

[quote] Probably the single most bizarre thing on DataLounge right now.

I have four word for you:

I don’t even know what Heartstopper is, but I already hate it because of all the random, pointless threads.

An interesting thing I just found out by searching Heartstopper on DL - the word “Heartstopper” showed up a lot on a particular thread that was about blocking threads. It seems many posters on DL block the Heartstopper threads. They were complaining about how the blocked threads return the next time they log on.

So people who block Heartstopper probably aren’t going to see this thread, either. Haha.

I hate it for the fact it was written by a sheltered Tumblr girl and blew up among other heterosexual women. I've grown tired of seeing gay sexual expression and sexual appetite called gross and disgusting by these heifers.

R37 It’s a Netflix series about two teen boys in England who discover they’re in love. It also has various other LGBTQ+ characters and themes. It’s based no a series of graphic novels by a woman writer.

The trailer actually makes it seem better than it is. I would rather watch the trailers than the actual seasons.

Is someone stopping you, r40?

R41 Stopping me from doing what?

I don’t dislike it at all. I think both the graphic novel and the TV series were sweet. But they are shockingly unrealistic in making their characters so completely sexless. Teenage boys are horny. They’re not just looking to hold hands, and it’s bizarre that female authors seem to have such an interest in removing their sex drives.

R36 -- I wrote the post you quoted, and I laughed out loud at that. Thank you!

R44 I’ve heard/read many comments like that. And I’m not sure. The characters are 14-15. Sure, boys that age are very horny. But also very inexperienced. Usually, or at least often, they’re virgins. I was both horny and scared of all that I didn’t know, at that age - and relatively uninformed. I didn’t have sex until I was 18, so do you actually want to depict them having sex? Or is it something else?

R45 I do think the writer just gets so much wrong, and it’s carried over into the series, because it’s like how everyone probably wished a first crush could be like. It’s actually much more messy, and no one is as pure of heart as that. Kids that age fight and argue a lot, too, and are generally not at their happiest. It’s more like a roller coaster of emotions.

r39 Exactly, same with that Love Simon and Red, White and Royal Blue bullshit. All originally from straight women, who write unrealistic bullshit featuring gay characters that actually just exist so the fraus who like that shit can self-insert themselves

The show is quite sweet but obviously aimed at teenagers. The posters in the threads on here are somewhat creepy though. They fawn over one or two actors to the extent that they can do no wrong and you would think another of the actors was a serial killer. They have this fairytale image of the actors who are either heroes or villains not just regular people. I just block the threads as they appear these days. I am surprised Muriel has let the threads stay up. Similar types in the past would have been long gone by now.

I love how they have latched on to Sebastian Croft as their object of hate, and fawn over jug ears who would not get a second look never mind a drink in the Admiral Duncan*.

*gay pub in Soho for non London aware gays

Why do they hate him so much?

Sebastian Croft is gorgeous, by far the most attractive cast member.

R50, I think it partly that they have conflated the actor with his character. And something to do with two of the young actors breaking up. I know very little about that part so somebody else may be able to fill you in.

I liked the first season a lot. It was fantasy wish fulfillment and very sweet and romantic. I really wished there had been something like it around when I was a gay ‘tween. But I didn’t start watching the second season until it had already been on for a few weeks, and I was surprised by how flat it was. I’ve wondered whether it was me or it’s that the slim premise had worn out its welcome.

The fact that they evidently haven’t had sex is probably right from the graphic novel, and the author’s reticence is understandable, even in a time before the ludicrous Republican crackdown on any and all gay-themed YA. But to see these 18 to19-year-old actors still frisking around and swooning without experimenting with sex, strains credibility (is it meant to be happening offscreen?) And when in the last episode, Joe Locke viciously turned on the guy trying to apologize for treating him badly in season 1, and I realized we were meant to be on his side for being so petty about a forced kiss — well, we were in PC bullshit territory, and I found it contemptible and unrealistic.

I’m glad it’s there for kids, especially with conservatives trying to force us all back in the closet, but it’s not for me.

And YES, those fanatical worshippers are insane, and their lionization of poor, homely Joe Locke is like some sort of sick fever.

I'm sure there are 18-19 year olds who haven't experimented with sex, however they're probably not in the midst of a relationship where they're lying with someone on a bed or a floor or whatever.

I literally turned it off after listening to a couple of scenes where the dialogue was just so cringey and pretentious, like these two little girls talking about sexual orientation while walking into school.

It's like everyone is super-aware of all these PC things regarding sexuality but the atmosphere is not at all sexual. I think everyone talks too much and does too little. Tell, rather than show. And other than the leads (who actually aren't brilliant, either) some of the acting is awful.

And why is it filmed with that blue filter so many things have, now? It's like I'm watching Dunkirk.

R14 I agree with ll your criticisms, the cutesy animations wore thin on me as did the music. I didnt find any of the characters insufferable, but they were unrealistic, and agree that the ages of the characters needed to be a year or two older

R19 has a point in saying its a representation of the adolescence they sometimes wish they'd had themselves, thats why I've watched it.

R39 makes sense it was written by a female, explains how they completely miss how horny teenage boys are as R43 pointed out. And the other thing he gets SO wrong is she totally misses how riotously crude and vulgar and foul mouthed they are. Particularly noticeable in the confrontations with Harry, nobody called him shithead let alone a motherfuckin cunt. All the kids dropped words like that into casual conversation all the time when I was that age. And not PC AT ALL

[quote]And why is it filmed with that blue filter so many things have, now? It's like I'm watching Dunkirk.

R54 thats Britain for you, everything looks like that

I do think Joe Locke is cute though

They don't fuck because the frauen who watch don't want to see guys fuck. Two reasons, one is that deep down they're actually quite homophobic, two is that as long as it's kept all chaste and 'sweet' they can imagine themselves in it - seeing two guys ass-fucking would prevent that, both because they're terrified of sex and because they prefer their gay men to be sexless pets.

I tried an episode and never returned as I’m not the target demo. I think it’s created for pre-teen and early teens but then it has attracted obsessive fraus per the DL threads I’ve seen. Each post is about how hot that scrawny one is (wtf?) or speculation on the real life goings on of various cast members.

That scene where the beetle-browed boy finally CONFRONTED the boy who KISSED HIM AGAINST HIS WILL and TOOK AWAY HIS AGENCY and MADE HIM FEEL UNSAFE positively reeked of estrogen.

I like the fact that the show is on the air and helping a lot of teens deal with their sexuality. I wish it had been on when I was young.

What I don't get is that the lead character, the dark haired one, Joe, is unusually unattractive, yet DL seems to think he's a god.

The fat one is okay. The only actual good looking guy is the one everyone on DL seems to hate, Sebastian.

The majority of DL posters don't watch Heartstoppers. Just some dedicated obsessives. It's a show made for 12 year olds.

R59 It's true, people certainly seem to love the donkey boy.

For some reason they really identify with the hideous looking guy

R62 If he can make it looking like that and lacking any sex appeal then maybe there is hope for even them.

i don't hate it but it just doesn't appeal to me. Young Royals is 10xs the show

It's like Mr. Tumnus knocked someone up or something.

I don't hate it but I'm not interested.

And it's weird that all the threads just have the same title.

I assume that, like a certain category of threads, these are all posters who come here for that topic and ONLY that topic alone, and generally are not otherwise participating in life at the DL.

I don't know what it is, apart from seeing threads about it here. So, naturally, I hate it.

r66 Oh they absolutely aren't DLers, and even have arranged a back up site to move to should Muriel shut them down.

[quote]And it's weird that all the threads just have the same title

My theory is that they don't number their threads as that would be a very visible proof to everyone (maybe even themselves) of how insane they are. Can you imagine? - "Heartstopper Thread No. 1, 953"

[quote] What I don't get is that the lead character, the dark haired one, Joe, is unusually unattractive, yet DL seems to think he's a god

There was a photo of him posted at the top of one of the latest threads, on a beach (in Spain? I think). The poor guy is just so unattractive. To be fair, he’s likable in the role. But the DL worship and obsession makes no sense. Can Just anyone be put on TV and they become a sex symbol for some people?

The other one, Kit, is not homely but he’s really not anything to write home about, either.

R71 He's only attractive next to the other guy - nice body, though I'd he'll have to fight getting fat as he gets older.

All dressed up

I don't think DL has managed to make me dislike an actor as much as I do Locke at the moment (well maybe Matt Damon for the whole FAGS thing). But the way his frauen in those threads degrade every other gay actor out there over a moderately talented homely looking actor like Joe Locke whose career is currently limited to playing the chaste bottom in an asexual tumblr landwhales yaoi fantasy and a token gay side character in the dying MCU is frankly insulting. You'd think he'd EGOT'd or something.

When you say frauen in the threads do you mean actual fraus or gay men who essentially behave like frauen? It seems like men in those threads, to me.

probably are men to be fair but its the most twitter fangirl like thread series I think I've ever seen on this place. Even actual actor stan threads tend to be on the I want to lick his taint sweat mixed with out and out hate variety . Heartstopper threads on the other hand are dedicated to the analytics of Instagram follower gains and how this negatively affects Sebastian Croft, and just plain shipping the main actors in the most oddly chaste way imaginable

[quote]But the DL worship and obsession makes no sense

Again, there is no DL worship. There are a couple of fraus - and yes, they obviously are women not men - who post obsessively. That doesn't represent DL.

You seem oddly insistent on defending those fraus.

R76 More like middle school girls than high school girls.

Um, my Joe doesn’t sweat.

I like Heartstopper. I like Joe Locke. I even think he's cute.

Where they lose me is their obsessive belief that his ass is "juicy". It's not.

[quote] Where they lose me is their obsessive belief that his ass is "juicy". It's not.

Now that takes me back to the CMBYN era and how certain posters used to lie Timmy didn't have a negative ass.

r78 And though they sound that way, they're almost certainly middle-aged. Just look at that woman who runs the Club Chalamet shit.

Heartstopper was fun. I don't get the hatred for the DL Heartstopper threads. They are the most well behaved "superfans" we've ever had at DL in my nearly 20 years on DL. Gawd there have been some crazy groups of superfans.

They have one thread at a time and they don't bomb other threads and start fights. They are polite, nice and well behaved when I've open and posted 2 or 3 times in those threads. It's all very quick moving and I don't understand what they're talking about but they seem happy and they're enjoying themselves. They're doing ok. Harmless.

I wish the really obsessive topics (you know the ones) could be a bit more like the Heartstopper threads. If they really bug you OP - don't read them!

R83 And if this thread bugs you, don’t post on it!

R77 Defending? How? I’m not defending anyone.

This thread was intended mainly for talking about how you don’t like the show Heartstopper.

Not really for talking about people on DL who post in Heartstopper threads.

When I mentioned I was tired of the fawning threads, I meant that this is a thread that is supposed to be the antithesis of those threads. Not saying people shouldn’t feel free to talk about those threads, but I don’t need to argue about who the individual posters in those threads are.

Not a hater, but I couldn’t get into it. Watched four episodes and ducked out.

Maybe if I was a teenager I’d like it.

This thread doesn't bug me in the slightest R84. Why would it?

R88 You defended the Heartstopper threads. Told me if they bug me, don’t read them. This thread isn’t about the Heartstopper threads.

It’s about criticizing the show.

R66 I happened across one of the Heartstopper threads so decided to go in and have a look around. All very strange and obsessive just like what you said

R70 and I saw that pic of Joe Locke on the beach in that thread, his face isnt model material for sure but he sure does have a nice body, just my type, I find him far more attractive than the other guy (Kit Connor?)

[quote]But the DL worship and obsession makes no sense.

That's how you know all the posters are female.

R91 middle-aged women I bet. It’s a bunch of people like that 57 year old woman who runs that deranged chalamet fan club.

Fraus. Still secretly hoping that the inoffensive ugly one is going to cum in their teenage daughters' holes.

I'm not a hater, but I don't understand what those Datalounge threads are all about.

I AM glad that this wholesome little gay show is available for my [gay] nephew and his peers. I sure as fuck didn't get quite the same experience. ;)

From what I can tell, the Heartstopper stans don't particularly care much for the show - they like the boys and obsessively follow their social media escapades.

My girlfriend watches it as mindless entertainment (we are lesbians), and so she has it on in the background while I'm rage typing on DL and similar such pottering around, so I catch moments of the show, and it's all so didactic and educational. You can tell the creator is a straight woman who so desperately wants to be an "LGBT ally". If I'd watched it at 12 (before I had much comprehension of my own sexuality or that there was such a thing as sexuality) I might have thought it was fabby, or whatever word I used then. At age 16/17, which is the age of the characters, I would have just rolled my eyes at it.

I'm not a hater of the show, but I do think it's a bit overrated. The acting is quite average yet the fandom hold up the two main leads as these amazing up and coming actors. It feels a bit strange.

I've started hitting the ignore button on all the Heartstopper fawning threads as there are so many and the people who type in them seem a bit unhinged.

R10 Not the anorexic gays calling a normal looking teenager fat.

r85 You've repeatedly tried to act like those threads represent DL as a whole, repeatedly tried to insist they don't seem like frau posters, and repeatedly said you don't think it's just a few posters in that thread despite it being evident that's the case.

R98 Thanks for your input. I haven’t read more than a handful of posts in the threads. I never said it wasn’t a few posters, you (or someone) said it was two posters, that’s different from a few. Seems like you’re more invested in the Heartstopper threads than I am, so, for the last time, this is a thread about the SHOW. If you want to talk about the show you’re welcome to.

Enjoyed the show, r99. And if I want to talk about the batshit crazy HS threads here, I will do so.

R100 You’re obviously looking for a fight and I don’t want to argue with you. Hope that’s clear enough.

Just thought tis could be a fun thread for anyone to post in who’s not a Heartstopper fan, who thinks the show is overrated, or the stars, or whatever. To counter all the many pro-Heartstopper threads, as it were.

Lets all go to their threads and keep making Donald Trump references. "Trump was chubby when he was young too." "Working class....I bet they all grew up to be MAGA."

For those stalkerish mentally ill fraus, that thing is hot.

I burst out laughing at that tweet and accompanying picture. Probably not what they were going for.

Does it eat?

Yeah you can’t blame all the threads on fraus. Most of the Heartstopper threads I’ve seen on here are obsessing about Kit, Joe, Sebastian etc.’s sex lives. Fraus aren’t doing that.

[quote]Fraus aren’t doing that

LOL are you serious?! Never heard of slash fanfic, almost entirely written by fraus? The Larries, the Charmies, etc, all fraus? The rimming likened to drinking a mug of hot chocolate? The bizarre frau following of Helix pornstars?

Besides, what gay man is going to show any interest in the sex life of someone as ugly as Joe Locke?

[quote] The rimming likened to drinking a mug of hot chocolate

The what now?

Hahaha yeah. One of the Larries (people who believe that Harry Styles and Louis Tomlinson are in a secret relationship) wrote some fanfic, and included a line which described one rimming the other as being like drinking hot chocolate. It was widely mocked and used as an example of how these fraus really don't understand gay sex at all.

I tried watching but the ugly rat looking guy was so distracting I stopped.

I tried looking for a gay related novel on Amazon. Almost all were written by fraus.

R112 Lots of bodice-ripper romance novels are written by men with female pennames, so I guess it's fair.

I assume its because most of these women get their start writing gay fanfic then just decide to publish one day. For example RWRB originally started out as Social Network AU fanfic apparently.

R114 people always say that but there’s no way it’s true. It doesn’t resemble the Social Network characters at all. It’s a pretty straightforward “what if Prince Harry was gay” fic, but obviously the author can’t admit that for legal reasons.

r115 Well either way the author used to be pretty active in that fandom. There was apparently a Drarry reference in the original release, and royal AUs are pretty common in every fandom. So at the very least she went through the fanfic feeder school to end up at to RWRB even if Harry and Meghan gave her more fodder.

R116 I can see how she might have repurposed some dialogue from an SN fic? Just not the characters themselves, really. For sure the Drarry and Hamilton references indicated a history in various fandoms.

r117 Don't honestly think it'd be as hard to repurpose the characters as you think. I just looked down this list and apparently Minecraft livestreamer royalty AU is a pretty popular genre and I doubt their personalities are great fits royalty either. All she had to do was Just rename them Prince Mark of Zuckerberg (God help me) and presidents son Eduardo Saverin and let the likes roll in.

R118 yeah I still don’t buy it because the characters — their attitudes, temperments, the way they interact with others, etc. — are nothing like Eduardo or Mark. Henry isn’t socially awkward, misogynistic or mean. Alex isn’t from a wealthy background, isn’t overly trusting or naive about money. I really don’t think it’s that complicated of an origin story. “Henry” is a reluctant prince who resents the royal role and the colonial history of it and is traumatized about his dead parent. He has a bad relationship with his snooty brother. He’s athletic, an expert at polo. He ends up abdicating. He’s gay Harry. They really only changed about three details (the character is blonde, his father is the one who died, and he doesn’t want to go into the military) to make it legally publishable. Alex is a more original character — more of a self-insert for the author (she tends to put an awkward & highly emotional late-blooming bisexual in all her work).

R104 Reminds me of a jug I once owned.

I'd grab those ears and face fuck him until he cried and his mascara ran all over the place. Then slap him really hard and tell him to get out.

Hopefully that's cumming in season 3 R121!

r122 Nah they wrote Sebastian Croft out of the show

I can't quite believe there's an argument raging over the accuracy of fanfics.

R104 I feel bad for this kid because he knows he’s not hot and that his weird fans are just lying about how hot he is out of loyalty or sympathy. It’s so fucked up.

Well the fat paycheck he gets reduces a lot of whatever sympathy I may feel for him.

The pasty white guy is even uglier. You know he has more foreskin than dick.

The show is saccharine and completely unrealistic like a fanfic, but even my cynical black heart creaked out a few "Awwww!"s over the boys and their giddy, chaste romance. If I were 12 or 13 I'd probably be obsessed with it.

I read somewhere the author is an asexual woman, which explains a lot. I also read that one of the boys gives the other a hand job by season 4 or 5, so I hope all the frauen fans are steeling themselves for that horrifying loss of innocence for their pets.

I thought Kit Connor was cute when I was watching the show but I don't think I've seen a single good picture of him outside of the show. People can look better in motion and he evidently hovers on the threshold such that he can [italic] only[/italic] look good in motion.

They can also look better when professionally lit and made up, and in post-production, than they look in real life.

That's certainly part of it, R130, and I meant to include it. I was probably a bit groggy when I wrote the post.

Nothing can make Joe Locke photogenic, though.

I’m pretty sure if I were 12 or 13 I’d find the show was just as cringey as I find it now. Probably more. I was a lot less soft at that age than I am now.

Don't think 12-12 year olds are the target audience. Think its more about a 16-20 years old mix of fujos and babygays. Seems to have worked by the way it was top on Netflix worldwide and twitter accounts and Noah Schnapp were squeeing for a few weeks.

[quote]The pasty white guy is even uglier.

Yeah, sooooo ugly.

surely "pasty white guy" is Joe?

r135 Did you think that photo proved anything other than him being ugly?

Wow. This thread is every bit as crazy as the Heartstopper lover threads.

R129 Idk I think he’s cute. They’re teenagers from the UK. They’re not going to look like some Hollywood, overdone actors.

They’re both pasty white guys

R139, Joe Locke isn't from the UK.

How much more UK adjacent can you get than the Isle of Mann?

He plays an English boy so well considering he’s from a distant, foreign land.

The Republic of Ireland, r142, and don't go telling them that they're from the UK.

Joe Locke looks like Gilligan fucked a donkey.

The Manx are much more closely associated with Britain than Ireland is, r144.

Ignoring everything else if Henry Cavill counts as a British actor despite his native crown dependency being a more French and about an extra 30 minutes boat ride away than Mann. Then Joe definitely does.

It's good that gay kids have some positive show to which they can relate. I wish we had that when I was an adolescent. However, I'm not a teenager so it doesn't interest me at all.

As one poster said, the blond kid looks like he has Down Syndome.

[quote] Joe Locke looks like Gilligan fucked a donkey.

r145 Lol.

But yeah, both kids are butt ugly.

But can they relate to it given it lacks any resemblance to actual life?

I've watched the show and Joe Locke is occasionally very pretty. Mostly he is awkward and jolie laide. He is charming. And he's very skinny and angular and one of the fashion It Boys of today, so he carries glamour and I like that. Of course his look, this type, could never appeal to most of the low-culture, low-brow, milquetoast taste DL eldergays of flyoverstan, who are humorlessly bitching about a young skinny up-and-coming star's looks. Joe is having a great time and is invited everywhere, despite not being a himbo, and wearing the latest high fashions, which not matter how ridiculous always fall well on a skinny guy of his age. This must enrage and embitter the fat fupa'd maiden aunties of DL who are rotting inside and out.

I love how his stans keep linking to pictures that prove the opposite of the point they were trying to make.

But I guess I'm just low-brow.

What opposite point does a pic like this prove to the argument that he is a jolie laide It Boy and one can enjoy that for what it is.

R150's link is a comparatively good picture of him but I'm with R151. Young and skinny can be great but that face? Not for me.

Do you ever appreciate Jolie Laide? Likely not. Stay away from Gaultier fashion shows.

The fujoshi and baby gays who heavily stan Joe are likely uggo freaks so they have catholic tastes and can appreciate a look like Joe Locke's. I don't think they are deluded and perceive Joe the same as, say, Manu Ríos.

[quote]Jolie Laide

A term used so much on DL it's lost it's meaning

And when I say pasty white guy I mean the redhead looking one, not the dark one.

But the Republic of Ireland is directly adjacent to the United Kingdom, unlike the Isle of Man, r146, so saying something is UK adjacent isn't saying much.

Isn't Joe Locke exactly how straight women like Alice Osman like their gays? Cute in a cutesy, needs to be looked after way and totally asexual.

Oh, fuck off, r154. Your "nomadic European sophisticate" pose is even more cringeworthy than anything Flyoverstan has ever produced.

R159 I'm so pleased to get the expected rouse out of you.

He looks ill.

R160, you mean get a [italic]rise[/italic]. T'as oublié?

ya got me!

r158 But he isn't cute

We're going in circles. Cute is subjective.

If you're totally lacking in taste, perhaps

I’m Heartstopper indifferent.

Who died and made R166 the arbiter of good taste?

Not cute as in sexy, r164, but cute as in cuddly, like a pet or cuddly toy.

He’s not that either.

"I hate ugly Joe Locke and he has cooties and is just dumb!"

R171 No one is reacting that way here at all. People are stating they think he’s unattractive while you freak out because you can’t understand it.

r168 Says the poster who insist anyone who doesn't think he's hot is "low-culture, low-brow, milquetoast taste DL eldergays of flyoverstan".

Give it but can't take it, eh?

If Lourdes Maria and Frida Kahlo had a kid, it would look like that thing at r150.

Any self-respecting gay would push Joe out of the way to get to Kit.

[quote] Any self-respecting gay would push Joe out of the way to get to Kit.

Kit's the pudgy pasty one, right?

He's the one who looks like the lovechild of Brian Cox and a golden retriever

No resemblance

R176 Yup. The fats are waiting for him to stop going to the gym.

R176 We get it, you think Kit is pasty and fat. I guess that skinny juice cleanse is making you aggravated.

Kit's fat where it counts

Ya know, I said the thread is as bad as the Heartstopper lovers thread.

I was wrong. It's worse.

Once Kit gets "me too'd" by some female extra, it will all erupt in fire.

R182 Then go to that thread and shut up.

DL is supposed to be all about gossip and pointless bitchery, right? I think this thread is a lot more in that tradition than threads drooling over some poor, fugly teenager for hundreds of posts, or basically, a fan site.

r177 I never realised how much a young Brian Cox looks like Alan Partridge

[quote] Ya know, I said the thread is as bad as the Heartstopper lovers thread.

[quote] I was wrong. It's worse.

r182 You're right. We haters have unwittingly created another fan thread for this abominable gay soap opera.🤣

R172 R173 reading skills? I argued he is fashionable and jolie laide. Not hot.

r188 And yet neither of those are true, despite your attempts to brow-beat people into agreeing with you.

I could give a fuck if you agree with me. I don't think he ugly and you do.

[quote]I could give a fuck if you

Yes, from your repeated replies and saying anyone who disagrees with you is low-class, that much is obvious.

He ugly, he ugly, he ain't got no aliby, he ugly!

R183 You do know everyone on that set is gay, right?

Well they’re English schoolboys after all.

R193 Sure, Jan.

I'm not trying to change your narrow taste, sweetie. I'm snarking about it.

Oh is that what you think you're doing?

"I know you are but what am I?"

Joe probably paddles Kit and humiliates him by calling him fat.

Those two ugly kids should just fuck and get it over with.

Joe's got a face like a donkey, maybe he's got the cock as well.

Kit sucks donkey dicks.

Joe brays loudly when he cums - scares the neighbors.

At least the agreement between fans and your trolls asses is that Joe Locke and Kit Connor should fuck in real life too.

R204 It would be less boring than the endless whining about who likes whose posts and who is taking pictures blah blah blah.

One poster vs a whole deranged fandom r204.

Baby gay show for girls, not gay men.

Straight girls, r207.

R208 Sure, Jan.

You think gay girls are Heartstopper fans, r209? My gay girl girlfriend watches it, but only as something to veg out in front of. Other than that, I can't say the lesbians care that much for it, even if there is a lesbian couple in the show.

I don’t know how far the producers would want to go in showing characters having sex who are underage or on the borderline.

R211, that would be unheard of!

Think they're supposed to be 15/16 R211, so I guess in season 3 they can legally fuck each other senseless? Not that I seem to recall illegality stopping me much at 15.

Can't wait, Netflix/Helix crossover! /s

R212 Show regularly portray teens age 14-15 having sex? I didn’t realize that.

*Shows

Where’s the Dler with the timescale of Joe and Bash’s relationship and time in Atlanta? I ‘d like to look at that spreadsheet again, if possible.

This is taking me out.

[quote] I don’t know how far the producers would want to go in showing characters having sex who are underage or on the borderline.

[quote] Think they're supposed to be 15/16 r211 , so I guess in season 3 they can legally fuck each other senseless?

r213 Them fucking is legal. You watching it is child porn.

Age of consent in GB is 16. Also, fictional.

I think the point is you can only go so young, in depicting sexual relationships on TV shows. Especially in the leads roles who would be considered role models. At some point there are going to be serious objections.

You can do it but it depends on the show so Skins, Elite and Euphoria tend to get a pass (well I've seen Euphoria gets some complaints from Zendaya fangirls about sexualising minors). But Heartstopper I'm pretty sure its fans are 95%+ teen girls would morph into a lynch mob if they even suggest they've given each other handjobs. The only character who had a hint of a sex drive is Ben and he got written as a an aggressive borderline rapist who everyone hates in show and online.

You guys are right, though - if you put any one on ignore in the Heartstopper threads you can see it's just a very tiny handful of people answering each other.

It's hilarious, the dozy fuckers might as well just email each other.