I'm so tired of all the fawning threads.
I'm not really a hater per se but I think DL is making me one. I just think it's an extremely overrated show. I couldn't get through three episodes before quitting.
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I'm so tired of all the fawning threads.
I'm not really a hater per se but I think DL is making me one. I just think it's an extremely overrated show. I couldn't get through three episodes before quitting.
|by Anonymous||reply 223||October 9, 2023 6:42 PM|
To paraphrase Alice Roosevelt Longworth, if you have nothing good to say about Heartstopper, come sit next to me.
|by Anonymous||reply 1||September 17, 2023 12:49 AM|
It’s always the stans who make me hate the objects of their obsessions.
|by Anonymous||reply 2||September 17, 2023 12:50 AM|
I put up an extremely snarky parody thread but nobody bit.
|by Anonymous||reply 3||September 17, 2023 1:35 AM|
I watched this, it was kinda cute but SO unrealistic. They never even swore, there was only one fight, no drugs, not even weed or whisky, and nobody carried weapons. School I went to at that age all the kids had mouths like fuckin sewers, myself included, and weapons werent uncommon, eveything from knuckledusters to knives although generally most couldnt stretch to a handgun. Brawls were a weekly thing if not more.
The kids in that show were so polite, restrained and well behaved... fuck they wouldnt have lasted minutes at the school I was at
|by Anonymous||reply 4||September 17, 2023 1:43 AM|
R4 in an American shit hole ghetto?
|by Anonymous||reply 5||September 17, 2023 2:03 AM|
R5 no, school in a pretty rough area, was white working class but somewhat mixed by the late 70's early 80's when I was there. And not the US either
|by Anonymous||reply 6||September 17, 2023 2:19 AM|
I’m not sure I’m in this program’s demographic, so I have not seen it. But loving the snark anyway…
|by Anonymous||reply 7||September 17, 2023 2:20 AM|
The show is fine. The adult Stans are creepy as fuck.
|by Anonymous||reply 8||September 17, 2023 2:30 AM|
The pasty white guy is down syndrome adjacent.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||September 17, 2023 4:13 AM|
The blonde kid is fat. Interest ended right there. Haven't watched any of it.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||September 17, 2023 4:14 AM|
[quote] The pasty white guy is down syndrome adjacent.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||September 17, 2023 5:23 AM|
The ugly one; one of the main characters. No idea what their names are.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||September 17, 2023 1:42 PM|
The two or three times I’ve tried to read the threads here on DL, out of curiosity, almost everyone on the thread is an obsessive stan. It’s not like threads about other shows where posters talk back and forth about the merits of the writing or the acting, pro or con. Everybody [bold]loves[/bold] the show and the two leads, especially Joe Locke. If you attempt to suggest this scrawny, homely kid is not the most attractive guy ever, five or six posters swoop down to call you a hater or a troll. People post long, detailed stats about how many followers the leads have on social media and no one finds it excessive. Much of it reads like a parody, only it’s not.
R3 That’s a funny parody! Great job. Not a lot of people seem to be biting, here, either. I’m surprised at the uniformity of opinion about the show. I was hoping to get a discussion going.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||September 17, 2023 2:11 PM|
R4 The show has very little realism, yet they present it as if it’s a real school with real people in it. It’s almost like a children’s story. This person is good, this one is bad. No subtlety. Cartoonish (it’s based on graphic novels, of course, that are themselves ultra-simplistic, like a greeting card, almost).
The music, by the way, is very bad and one of the reasons I couldn’t stand watching the show. Not that the songs are bad but they’re just inserted into almost every scene and blare over the action to create ‘mood’ often for no reason.
One or two supporting characters we’re supposed to like are insufferable.
There are also animated things like leaves and butterflies that are printed over the scenes and could have been good if used subtly (I guess) but are overdone and end up (like so much else in the show) seeming cringey.
The actors look too old. They could have upped the ages of the characters on the show, slightly, from mid-teens, to accommodate the casting of older teens.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||September 17, 2023 2:39 PM|
[quote] People post long, detailed stats about how many followers the leads have on social media and no one finds it excessive. Much of it reads like a parody, only it’s not.
That’s like the Ben Barnes threads except with many more posts and much less hate for the subject of the threads.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||September 17, 2023 2:51 PM|
It reminds me of the Miles-Connor threads. Thousands of posts and all of the same opinion.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||September 17, 2023 3:04 PM|
OP, very few responses. You're mistaken.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||September 17, 2023 3:22 PM|
R17 I’m mistaken about what?
|by Anonymous||reply 18||September 17, 2023 3:23 PM|
I watched it and liked it well enough, OP. If they're anything like me, then the gay men who liked it probably saw it as a representation of the adolescence they sometimes wish they'd had themselves. It has nothing to say about gay life beyond that period, of course, as you'd expect.
There's nothing too profound here and it's clearly for teens, but the fact that it's gay-themed means that some gay adults may find it of interest.
As for the threads, I've never been in them. I imagine it's two or three people who write a couple of hundred posts a day each. Probably the single most bizarre thing on DataLounge right now.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||September 17, 2023 4:24 PM|
Haven’t watched it, haven’t opened any of the threads until this one. Quite simple, really.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||September 17, 2023 4:26 PM|
Well, that’s the point. It’s for teens but I doubt too many people posting about the show and the lead actors so gushingly on DL are teens.
If you haven’t been in the threads, you probably shouldn’t assume it’s two or three people posting. he threads quickly reach 600 posts all the time.
Anyway, if you liked the show this probably isn’t the thread for you but thanks for your post.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||September 17, 2023 4:29 PM|
^^^Reply to R19
|by Anonymous||reply 22||September 17, 2023 4:30 PM|
I said I liked it *well enough*. Which is not that different from your own assessment at the beginning.
As for the threads, I am well aware of how fast they fill up, I just choose not to visit them. They probably have those really weird, curator-type OPs. I hate people like that.
|by Anonymous||reply 23||September 17, 2023 4:36 PM|
R23 I’m sorry if I gave that impression. I said it was extremely overrated and I couldn’t get through three episodes before quitting. How does that indicate I liked it well enough? I just wanted to indicated I wasn’t some virulent hater of the show or the cast. But I don’t actually like it.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||September 17, 2023 4:49 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 25||September 17, 2023 4:49 PM|
Maybe I gave the wrong impression saying I was not a hater per se. But I don’t think the show is good, I think it’s way overrated, and I found it to be stupid, pandering, unrealistic and badly done.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||September 17, 2023 4:52 PM|
Okay, R26. I would respond but this isn't the thread for me, after all.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||September 17, 2023 5:08 PM|
R27 Well it isn’t a thread to say good things about Heartstopper (even qualified ones) - there are plenty of threads for that. I’m not kicking anyone off the thread, you can always feel free to respond as far as I’m concerned, I just stared it, i don’t police or own it. But the thread is not pro-Heartstopper, obviously, nor for arguing for its merits.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||September 17, 2023 5:19 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 29||September 17, 2023 5:19 PM|
I've tried reading a few of the threads and I've concluded that it's mostly very young fans chatting about the actors and their relationships and activities outside of the show. It's like reading Tiger Beat.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||September 17, 2023 5:41 PM|
[quote]If you haven’t been in the threads, you probably shouldn’t assume it’s two or three people posting. he threads quickly reach 600 posts all the time.
Because that never happens on DL
|by Anonymous||reply 31||September 17, 2023 5:56 PM|
I find it pleasant enough but far from amazing or groundbreaking. It seems contrived to tick all the boxes to be 'inclusive' while still coming across as a lonely fat girl's romantic fantasy.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||September 17, 2023 5:56 PM|
Very young fans on DL??
|by Anonymous||reply 33||September 17, 2023 5:56 PM|
R31 The threads honestly don’t seem like 2 people posting.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||September 17, 2023 5:57 PM|
r34 Yeah, just ignore the fact that you can block one poster and a third of the thread disappears
|by Anonymous||reply 35||September 17, 2023 6:00 PM|
[quote] Probably the single most bizarre thing on DataLounge right now.
I have four word for you:
|by Anonymous||reply 36||September 17, 2023 6:01 PM|
I don’t even know what Heartstopper is, but I already hate it because of all the random, pointless threads.
|by Anonymous||reply 37||September 17, 2023 6:08 PM|
An interesting thing I just found out by searching Heartstopper on DL - the word “Heartstopper” showed up a lot on a particular thread that was about blocking threads. It seems many posters on DL block the Heartstopper threads. They were complaining about how the blocked threads return the next time they log on.
So people who block Heartstopper probably aren’t going to see this thread, either. Haha.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||September 17, 2023 6:11 PM|
I hate it for the fact it was written by a sheltered Tumblr girl and blew up among other heterosexual women. I've grown tired of seeing gay sexual expression and sexual appetite called gross and disgusting by these heifers.
|by Anonymous||reply 39||September 17, 2023 6:16 PM|
R37 It’s a Netflix series about two teen boys in England who discover they’re in love. It also has various other LGBTQ+ characters and themes. It’s based no a series of graphic novels by a woman writer.
The trailer actually makes it seem better than it is. I would rather watch the trailers than the actual seasons.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||September 17, 2023 6:19 PM|
Is someone stopping you, r40?
|by Anonymous||reply 41||September 17, 2023 6:20 PM|
R41 Stopping me from doing what?
|by Anonymous||reply 42||September 17, 2023 6:21 PM|
I don’t dislike it at all. I think both the graphic novel and the TV series were sweet. But they are shockingly unrealistic in making their characters so completely sexless. Teenage boys are horny. They’re not just looking to hold hands, and it’s bizarre that female authors seem to have such an interest in removing their sex drives.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||September 17, 2023 6:28 PM|
R36 -- I wrote the post you quoted, and I laughed out loud at that. Thank you!
|by Anonymous||reply 44||September 17, 2023 6:32 PM|
R44 I’ve heard/read many comments like that. And I’m not sure. The characters are 14-15. Sure, boys that age are very horny. But also very inexperienced. Usually, or at least often, they’re virgins. I was both horny and scared of all that I didn’t know, at that age - and relatively uninformed. I didn’t have sex until I was 18, so do you actually want to depict them having sex? Or is it something else?
|by Anonymous||reply 45||September 17, 2023 6:42 PM|
R45 I do think the writer just gets so much wrong, and it’s carried over into the series, because it’s like how everyone probably wished a first crush could be like. It’s actually much more messy, and no one is as pure of heart as that. Kids that age fight and argue a lot, too, and are generally not at their happiest. It’s more like a roller coaster of emotions.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||September 17, 2023 6:59 PM|
r39 Exactly, same with that Love Simon and Red, White and Royal Blue bullshit. All originally from straight women, who write unrealistic bullshit featuring gay characters that actually just exist so the fraus who like that shit can self-insert themselves
|by Anonymous||reply 47||September 17, 2023 7:43 PM|
The show is quite sweet but obviously aimed at teenagers. The posters in the threads on here are somewhat creepy though. They fawn over one or two actors to the extent that they can do no wrong and you would think another of the actors was a serial killer. They have this fairytale image of the actors who are either heroes or villains not just regular people. I just block the threads as they appear these days. I am surprised Muriel has let the threads stay up. Similar types in the past would have been long gone by now.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||September 17, 2023 7:46 PM|
I love how they have latched on to Sebastian Croft as their object of hate, and fawn over jug ears who would not get a second look never mind a drink in the Admiral Duncan*.
*gay pub in Soho for non London aware gays
|by Anonymous||reply 49||September 17, 2023 7:53 PM|
Why do they hate him so much?
|by Anonymous||reply 50||September 17, 2023 7:54 PM|
Sebastian Croft is gorgeous, by far the most attractive cast member.
|by Anonymous||reply 51||September 17, 2023 8:06 PM|
R50, I think it partly that they have conflated the actor with his character. And something to do with two of the young actors breaking up. I know very little about that part so somebody else may be able to fill you in.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||September 17, 2023 8:06 PM|
I liked the first season a lot. It was fantasy wish fulfillment and very sweet and romantic. I really wished there had been something like it around when I was a gay ‘tween. But I didn’t start watching the second season until it had already been on for a few weeks, and I was surprised by how flat it was. I’ve wondered whether it was me or it’s that the slim premise had worn out its welcome.
The fact that they evidently haven’t had sex is probably right from the graphic novel, and the author’s reticence is understandable, even in a time before the ludicrous Republican crackdown on any and all gay-themed YA. But to see these 18 to19-year-old actors still frisking around and swooning without experimenting with sex, strains credibility (is it meant to be happening offscreen?) And when in the last episode, Joe Locke viciously turned on the guy trying to apologize for treating him badly in season 1, and I realized we were meant to be on his side for being so petty about a forced kiss — well, we were in PC bullshit territory, and I found it contemptible and unrealistic.
I’m glad it’s there for kids, especially with conservatives trying to force us all back in the closet, but it’s not for me.
And YES, those fanatical worshippers are insane, and their lionization of poor, homely Joe Locke is like some sort of sick fever.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||September 17, 2023 8:17 PM|
I'm sure there are 18-19 year olds who haven't experimented with sex, however they're probably not in the midst of a relationship where they're lying with someone on a bed or a floor or whatever.
I literally turned it off after listening to a couple of scenes where the dialogue was just so cringey and pretentious, like these two little girls talking about sexual orientation while walking into school.
It's like everyone is super-aware of all these PC things regarding sexuality but the atmosphere is not at all sexual. I think everyone talks too much and does too little. Tell, rather than show. And other than the leads (who actually aren't brilliant, either) some of the acting is awful.
And why is it filmed with that blue filter so many things have, now? It's like I'm watching Dunkirk.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||September 17, 2023 9:05 PM|
R14 I agree with ll your criticisms, the cutesy animations wore thin on me as did the music. I didnt find any of the characters insufferable, but they were unrealistic, and agree that the ages of the characters needed to be a year or two older
R19 has a point in saying its a representation of the adolescence they sometimes wish they'd had themselves, thats why I've watched it.
R39 makes sense it was written by a female, explains how they completely miss how horny teenage boys are as R43 pointed out. And the other thing he gets SO wrong is she totally misses how riotously crude and vulgar and foul mouthed they are. Particularly noticeable in the confrontations with Harry, nobody called him shithead let alone a motherfuckin cunt. All the kids dropped words like that into casual conversation all the time when I was that age. And not PC AT ALL
[quote]And why is it filmed with that blue filter so many things have, now? It's like I'm watching Dunkirk.
R54 thats Britain for you, everything looks like that
I do think Joe Locke is cute though
|by Anonymous||reply 55||September 17, 2023 9:36 PM|
They don't fuck because the frauen who watch don't want to see guys fuck. Two reasons, one is that deep down they're actually quite homophobic, two is that as long as it's kept all chaste and 'sweet' they can imagine themselves in it - seeing two guys ass-fucking would prevent that, both because they're terrified of sex and because they prefer their gay men to be sexless pets.
|by Anonymous||reply 56||September 17, 2023 9:55 PM|
I tried an episode and never returned as I’m not the target demo. I think it’s created for pre-teen and early teens but then it has attracted obsessive fraus per the DL threads I’ve seen. Each post is about how hot that scrawny one is (wtf?) or speculation on the real life goings on of various cast members.
|by Anonymous||reply 57||September 17, 2023 10:10 PM|
That scene where the beetle-browed boy finally CONFRONTED the boy who KISSED HIM AGAINST HIS WILL and TOOK AWAY HIS AGENCY and MADE HIM FEEL UNSAFE positively reeked of estrogen.
|by Anonymous||reply 58||September 17, 2023 11:09 PM|
I like the fact that the show is on the air and helping a lot of teens deal with their sexuality. I wish it had been on when I was young.
What I don't get is that the lead character, the dark haired one, Joe, is unusually unattractive, yet DL seems to think he's a god.
The fat one is okay. The only actual good looking guy is the one everyone on DL seems to hate, Sebastian.
|by Anonymous||reply 59||September 17, 2023 11:15 PM|
The majority of DL posters don't watch Heartstoppers. Just some dedicated obsessives. It's a show made for 12 year olds.
|by Anonymous||reply 60||September 17, 2023 11:30 PM|
R59 It's true, people certainly seem to love the donkey boy.
|by Anonymous||reply 61||September 17, 2023 11:49 PM|
For some reason they really identify with the hideous looking guy
|by Anonymous||reply 62||September 17, 2023 11:58 PM|
R62 If he can make it looking like that and lacking any sex appeal then maybe there is hope for even them.
|by Anonymous||reply 63||September 18, 2023 1:09 AM|
i don't hate it but it just doesn't appeal to me. Young Royals is 10xs the show
|by Anonymous||reply 64||September 18, 2023 1:16 AM|
It's like Mr. Tumnus knocked someone up or something.
|by Anonymous||reply 65||September 18, 2023 1:17 AM|
I don't hate it but I'm not interested.
And it's weird that all the threads just have the same title.
I assume that, like a certain category of threads, these are all posters who come here for that topic and ONLY that topic alone, and generally are not otherwise participating in life at the DL.
|by Anonymous||reply 66||September 18, 2023 1:31 AM|
I don't know what it is, apart from seeing threads about it here. So, naturally, I hate it.
|by Anonymous||reply 67||September 18, 2023 1:33 AM|
r66 Oh they absolutely aren't DLers, and even have arranged a back up site to move to should Muriel shut them down.
|by Anonymous||reply 68||September 18, 2023 2:10 AM|
[quote]And it's weird that all the threads just have the same title
My theory is that they don't number their threads as that would be a very visible proof to everyone (maybe even themselves) of how insane they are. Can you imagine? - "Heartstopper Thread No. 1, 953"
|by Anonymous||reply 69||September 18, 2023 9:27 AM|
[quote] What I don't get is that the lead character, the dark haired one, Joe, is unusually unattractive, yet DL seems to think he's a god
There was a photo of him posted at the top of one of the latest threads, on a beach (in Spain? I think). The poor guy is just so unattractive. To be fair, he’s likable in the role. But the DL worship and obsession makes no sense. Can Just anyone be put on TV and they become a sex symbol for some people?
|by Anonymous||reply 70||September 19, 2023 11:46 AM|
The other one, Kit, is not homely but he’s really not anything to write home about, either.
|by Anonymous||reply 71||September 19, 2023 11:47 AM|
R71 He's only attractive next to the other guy - nice body, though I'd he'll have to fight getting fat as he gets older.
|by Anonymous||reply 72||September 19, 2023 12:17 PM|
All dressed up
|by Anonymous||reply 73||September 19, 2023 12:21 PM|
I don't think DL has managed to make me dislike an actor as much as I do Locke at the moment (well maybe Matt Damon for the whole FAGS thing). But the way his frauen in those threads degrade every other gay actor out there over a moderately talented homely looking actor like Joe Locke whose career is currently limited to playing the chaste bottom in an asexual tumblr landwhales yaoi fantasy and a token gay side character in the dying MCU is frankly insulting. You'd think he'd EGOT'd or something.
|by Anonymous||reply 74||September 19, 2023 12:26 PM|
When you say frauen in the threads do you mean actual fraus or gay men who essentially behave like frauen? It seems like men in those threads, to me.
|by Anonymous||reply 75||September 19, 2023 12:29 PM|
probably are men to be fair but its the most twitter fangirl like thread series I think I've ever seen on this place. Even actual actor stan threads tend to be on the I want to lick his taint sweat mixed with out and out hate variety . Heartstopper threads on the other hand are dedicated to the analytics of Instagram follower gains and how this negatively affects Sebastian Croft, and just plain shipping the main actors in the most oddly chaste way imaginable
|by Anonymous||reply 76||September 19, 2023 12:43 PM|
[quote]But the DL worship and obsession makes no sense
Again, there is no DL worship. There are a couple of fraus - and yes, they obviously are women not men - who post obsessively. That doesn't represent DL.
You seem oddly insistent on defending those fraus.
|by Anonymous||reply 77||September 19, 2023 1:04 PM|
R76 More like middle school girls than high school girls.
|by Anonymous||reply 78||September 19, 2023 1:29 PM|
Um, my Joe doesn’t sweat.
|by Anonymous||reply 79||September 19, 2023 1:32 PM|
I like Heartstopper. I like Joe Locke. I even think he's cute.
Where they lose me is their obsessive belief that his ass is "juicy". It's not.
|by Anonymous||reply 80||September 19, 2023 2:13 PM|
[quote] Where they lose me is their obsessive belief that his ass is "juicy". It's not.
Now that takes me back to the CMBYN era and how certain posters used to lie Timmy didn't have a negative ass.
|by Anonymous||reply 81||September 19, 2023 2:17 PM|
r78 And though they sound that way, they're almost certainly middle-aged. Just look at that woman who runs the Club Chalamet shit.
|by Anonymous||reply 82||September 19, 2023 2:30 PM|
Heartstopper was fun. I don't get the hatred for the DL Heartstopper threads. They are the most well behaved "superfans" we've ever had at DL in my nearly 20 years on DL. Gawd there have been some crazy groups of superfans.
They have one thread at a time and they don't bomb other threads and start fights. They are polite, nice and well behaved when I've open and posted 2 or 3 times in those threads. It's all very quick moving and I don't understand what they're talking about but they seem happy and they're enjoying themselves. They're doing ok. Harmless.
I wish the really obsessive topics (you know the ones) could be a bit more like the Heartstopper threads. If they really bug you OP - don't read them!
|by Anonymous||reply 83||September 19, 2023 11:44 PM|
R83 And if this thread bugs you, don’t post on it!
|by Anonymous||reply 84||September 20, 2023 1:19 AM|
R77 Defending? How? I’m not defending anyone.
This thread was intended mainly for talking about how you don’t like the show Heartstopper.
Not really for talking about people on DL who post in Heartstopper threads.
|by Anonymous||reply 85||September 20, 2023 1:27 AM|
When I mentioned I was tired of the fawning threads, I meant that this is a thread that is supposed to be the antithesis of those threads. Not saying people shouldn’t feel free to talk about those threads, but I don’t need to argue about who the individual posters in those threads are.
|by Anonymous||reply 86||September 20, 2023 1:41 AM|
Not a hater, but I couldn’t get into it. Watched four episodes and ducked out.
Maybe if I was a teenager I’d like it.
|by Anonymous||reply 87||September 20, 2023 1:48 AM|
This thread doesn't bug me in the slightest R84. Why would it?
|by Anonymous||reply 88||September 20, 2023 2:23 AM|
R88 You defended the Heartstopper threads. Told me if they bug me, don’t read them. This thread isn’t about the Heartstopper threads.
It’s about criticizing the show.
|by Anonymous||reply 89||September 20, 2023 3:07 AM|
R66 I happened across one of the Heartstopper threads so decided to go in and have a look around. All very strange and obsessive just like what you said
R70 and I saw that pic of Joe Locke on the beach in that thread, his face isnt model material for sure but he sure does have a nice body, just my type, I find him far more attractive than the other guy (Kit Connor?)
|by Anonymous||reply 90||September 20, 2023 3:27 AM|
[quote]But the DL worship and obsession makes no sense.
That's how you know all the posters are female.
|by Anonymous||reply 91||September 20, 2023 4:18 AM|
R91 middle-aged women I bet. It’s a bunch of people like that 57 year old woman who runs that deranged chalamet fan club.
|by Anonymous||reply 92||September 20, 2023 6:19 AM|
Fraus. Still secretly hoping that the inoffensive ugly one is going to cum in their teenage daughters' holes.
|by Anonymous||reply 93||September 20, 2023 8:31 AM|
I'm not a hater, but I don't understand what those Datalounge threads are all about.
I AM glad that this wholesome little gay show is available for my [gay] nephew and his peers. I sure as fuck didn't get quite the same experience. ;)
|by Anonymous||reply 94||September 20, 2023 8:34 AM|
From what I can tell, the Heartstopper stans don't particularly care much for the show - they like the boys and obsessively follow their social media escapades.
My girlfriend watches it as mindless entertainment (we are lesbians), and so she has it on in the background while I'm rage typing on DL and similar such pottering around, so I catch moments of the show, and it's all so didactic and educational. You can tell the creator is a straight woman who so desperately wants to be an "LGBT ally". If I'd watched it at 12 (before I had much comprehension of my own sexuality or that there was such a thing as sexuality) I might have thought it was fabby, or whatever word I used then. At age 16/17, which is the age of the characters, I would have just rolled my eyes at it.
|by Anonymous||reply 95||September 20, 2023 9:21 AM|
I'm not a hater of the show, but I do think it's a bit overrated. The acting is quite average yet the fandom hold up the two main leads as these amazing up and coming actors. It feels a bit strange.
I've started hitting the ignore button on all the Heartstopper fawning threads as there are so many and the people who type in them seem a bit unhinged.
|by Anonymous||reply 96||September 20, 2023 9:42 AM|
R10 Not the anorexic gays calling a normal looking teenager fat.
|by Anonymous||reply 97||September 20, 2023 11:49 AM|
r85 You've repeatedly tried to act like those threads represent DL as a whole, repeatedly tried to insist they don't seem like frau posters, and repeatedly said you don't think it's just a few posters in that thread despite it being evident that's the case.
|by Anonymous||reply 98||September 20, 2023 11:54 AM|
R98 Thanks for your input. I haven’t read more than a handful of posts in the threads. I never said it wasn’t a few posters, you (or someone) said it was two posters, that’s different from a few. Seems like you’re more invested in the Heartstopper threads than I am, so, for the last time, this is a thread about the SHOW. If you want to talk about the show you’re welcome to.
|by Anonymous||reply 99||September 20, 2023 5:10 PM|
Enjoyed the show, r99. And if I want to talk about the batshit crazy HS threads here, I will do so.
|by Anonymous||reply 100||September 20, 2023 5:19 PM|
R100 You’re obviously looking for a fight and I don’t want to argue with you. Hope that’s clear enough.
|by Anonymous||reply 101||September 20, 2023 5:39 PM|
Just thought tis could be a fun thread for anyone to post in who’s not a Heartstopper fan, who thinks the show is overrated, or the stars, or whatever. To counter all the many pro-Heartstopper threads, as it were.
|by Anonymous||reply 102||September 20, 2023 5:59 PM|
Lets all go to their threads and keep making Donald Trump references. "Trump was chubby when he was young too." "Working class....I bet they all grew up to be MAGA."
|by Anonymous||reply 103||September 20, 2023 6:17 PM|
For those stalkerish mentally ill fraus, that thing is hot.
|by Anonymous||reply 104||September 20, 2023 9:35 PM|
I burst out laughing at that tweet and accompanying picture. Probably not what they were going for.
|by Anonymous||reply 105||September 20, 2023 9:36 PM|
Does it eat?
|by Anonymous||reply 106||September 20, 2023 10:26 PM|
Yeah you can’t blame all the threads on fraus. Most of the Heartstopper threads I’ve seen on here are obsessing about Kit, Joe, Sebastian etc.’s sex lives. Fraus aren’t doing that.
|by Anonymous||reply 107||September 20, 2023 10:39 PM|
[quote]Fraus aren’t doing that
LOL are you serious?! Never heard of slash fanfic, almost entirely written by fraus? The Larries, the Charmies, etc, all fraus? The rimming likened to drinking a mug of hot chocolate? The bizarre frau following of Helix pornstars?
Besides, what gay man is going to show any interest in the sex life of someone as ugly as Joe Locke?
|by Anonymous||reply 108||September 20, 2023 10:50 PM|
[quote] The rimming likened to drinking a mug of hot chocolate
The what now?
|by Anonymous||reply 109||September 20, 2023 11:14 PM|
Hahaha yeah. One of the Larries (people who believe that Harry Styles and Louis Tomlinson are in a secret relationship) wrote some fanfic, and included a line which described one rimming the other as being like drinking hot chocolate. It was widely mocked and used as an example of how these fraus really don't understand gay sex at all.
|by Anonymous||reply 110||September 20, 2023 11:18 PM|
I tried watching but the ugly rat looking guy was so distracting I stopped.
|by Anonymous||reply 111||September 20, 2023 11:36 PM|
I tried looking for a gay related novel on Amazon. Almost all were written by fraus.
|by Anonymous||reply 112||September 21, 2023 12:41 AM|
R112 Lots of bodice-ripper romance novels are written by men with female pennames, so I guess it's fair.
|by Anonymous||reply 113||September 21, 2023 12:52 AM|
I assume its because most of these women get their start writing gay fanfic then just decide to publish one day. For example RWRB originally started out as Social Network AU fanfic apparently.
|by Anonymous||reply 114||September 21, 2023 1:09 AM|
R114 people always say that but there’s no way it’s true. It doesn’t resemble the Social Network characters at all. It’s a pretty straightforward “what if Prince Harry was gay” fic, but obviously the author can’t admit that for legal reasons.
|by Anonymous||reply 115||September 21, 2023 1:14 AM|
r115 Well either way the author used to be pretty active in that fandom. There was apparently a Drarry reference in the original release, and royal AUs are pretty common in every fandom. So at the very least she went through the fanfic feeder school to end up at to RWRB even if Harry and Meghan gave her more fodder.
|by Anonymous||reply 116||September 21, 2023 1:19 AM|
R116 I can see how she might have repurposed some dialogue from an SN fic? Just not the characters themselves, really. For sure the Drarry and Hamilton references indicated a history in various fandoms.
|by Anonymous||reply 117||September 21, 2023 1:26 AM|
r117 Don't honestly think it'd be as hard to repurpose the characters as you think. I just looked down this list and apparently Minecraft livestreamer royalty AU is a pretty popular genre and I doubt their personalities are great fits royalty either. All she had to do was Just rename them Prince Mark of Zuckerberg (God help me) and presidents son Eduardo Saverin and let the likes roll in.
|by Anonymous||reply 118||September 21, 2023 1:41 AM|
R118 yeah I still don’t buy it because the characters — their attitudes, temperments, the way they interact with others, etc. — are nothing like Eduardo or Mark. Henry isn’t socially awkward, misogynistic or mean. Alex isn’t from a wealthy background, isn’t overly trusting or naive about money. I really don’t think it’s that complicated of an origin story. “Henry” is a reluctant prince who resents the royal role and the colonial history of it and is traumatized about his dead parent. He has a bad relationship with his snooty brother. He’s athletic, an expert at polo. He ends up abdicating. He’s gay Harry. They really only changed about three details (the character is blonde, his father is the one who died, and he doesn’t want to go into the military) to make it legally publishable. Alex is a more original character — more of a self-insert for the author (she tends to put an awkward & highly emotional late-blooming bisexual in all her work).
|by Anonymous||reply 119||September 21, 2023 2:00 AM|
R104 Reminds me of a jug I once owned.
|by Anonymous||reply 120||September 21, 2023 2:08 AM|
I'd grab those ears and face fuck him until he cried and his mascara ran all over the place. Then slap him really hard and tell him to get out.
|by Anonymous||reply 121||September 21, 2023 2:11 AM|
Hopefully that's cumming in season 3 R121!
|by Anonymous||reply 122||September 21, 2023 2:19 AM|
r122 Nah they wrote Sebastian Croft out of the show
|by Anonymous||reply 123||September 21, 2023 2:20 AM|
I can't quite believe there's an argument raging over the accuracy of fanfics.
|by Anonymous||reply 124||September 21, 2023 2:35 AM|
R104 I feel bad for this kid because he knows he’s not hot and that his weird fans are just lying about how hot he is out of loyalty or sympathy. It’s so fucked up.
|by Anonymous||reply 125||September 21, 2023 5:48 AM|
Well the fat paycheck he gets reduces a lot of whatever sympathy I may feel for him.
|by Anonymous||reply 126||September 21, 2023 9:50 PM|
The pasty white guy is even uglier. You know he has more foreskin than dick.
|by Anonymous||reply 127||September 22, 2023 4:00 AM|
The show is saccharine and completely unrealistic like a fanfic, but even my cynical black heart creaked out a few "Awwww!"s over the boys and their giddy, chaste romance. If I were 12 or 13 I'd probably be obsessed with it.
I read somewhere the author is an asexual woman, which explains a lot. I also read that one of the boys gives the other a hand job by season 4 or 5, so I hope all the frauen fans are steeling themselves for that horrifying loss of innocence for their pets.
|by Anonymous||reply 128||September 22, 2023 10:15 AM|
I thought Kit Connor was cute when I was watching the show but I don't think I've seen a single good picture of him outside of the show. People can look better in motion and he evidently hovers on the threshold such that he can [italic] only[/italic] look good in motion.
|by Anonymous||reply 129||September 22, 2023 10:19 AM|
They can also look better when professionally lit and made up, and in post-production, than they look in real life.
|by Anonymous||reply 130||September 22, 2023 12:06 PM|
That's certainly part of it, R130, and I meant to include it. I was probably a bit groggy when I wrote the post.
|by Anonymous||reply 131||September 22, 2023 12:25 PM|
Nothing can make Joe Locke photogenic, though.
|by Anonymous||reply 132||September 22, 2023 12:57 PM|
I’m pretty sure if I were 12 or 13 I’d find the show was just as cringey as I find it now. Probably more. I was a lot less soft at that age than I am now.
|by Anonymous||reply 133||September 22, 2023 1:00 PM|
Don't think 12-12 year olds are the target audience. Think its more about a 16-20 years old mix of fujos and babygays. Seems to have worked by the way it was top on Netflix worldwide and twitter accounts and Noah Schnapp were squeeing for a few weeks.
|by Anonymous||reply 134||September 22, 2023 1:10 PM|
[quote]The pasty white guy is even uglier.
Yeah, sooooo ugly.
|by Anonymous||reply 135||September 22, 2023 1:16 PM|
surely "pasty white guy" is Joe?
|by Anonymous||reply 136||September 22, 2023 1:20 PM|
r135 Did you think that photo proved anything other than him being ugly?
|by Anonymous||reply 137||September 22, 2023 1:32 PM|
Wow. This thread is every bit as crazy as the Heartstopper lover threads.
|by Anonymous||reply 138||September 22, 2023 1:33 PM|
R129 Idk I think he’s cute. They’re teenagers from the UK. They’re not going to look like some Hollywood, overdone actors.
|by Anonymous||reply 139||September 22, 2023 6:42 PM|
They’re both pasty white guys
|by Anonymous||reply 140||September 22, 2023 7:34 PM|
R139, Joe Locke isn't from the UK.
|by Anonymous||reply 141||September 22, 2023 8:07 PM|
How much more UK adjacent can you get than the Isle of Mann?
|by Anonymous||reply 142||September 22, 2023 9:17 PM|
He plays an English boy so well considering he’s from a distant, foreign land.
|by Anonymous||reply 143||September 23, 2023 1:23 PM|
The Republic of Ireland, r142, and don't go telling them that they're from the UK.
|by Anonymous||reply 144||September 23, 2023 10:54 PM|
Joe Locke looks like Gilligan fucked a donkey.
|by Anonymous||reply 145||September 24, 2023 6:33 AM|
The Manx are much more closely associated with Britain than Ireland is, r144.
|by Anonymous||reply 146||September 24, 2023 8:15 AM|
Ignoring everything else if Henry Cavill counts as a British actor despite his native crown dependency being a more French and about an extra 30 minutes boat ride away than Mann. Then Joe definitely does.
|by Anonymous||reply 147||September 24, 2023 8:28 AM|
It's good that gay kids have some positive show to which they can relate. I wish we had that when I was an adolescent. However, I'm not a teenager so it doesn't interest me at all.
As one poster said, the blond kid looks like he has Down Syndome.
[quote] Joe Locke looks like Gilligan fucked a donkey.
But yeah, both kids are butt ugly.
|by Anonymous||reply 148||September 24, 2023 8:35 AM|
But can they relate to it given it lacks any resemblance to actual life?
|by Anonymous||reply 149||September 24, 2023 12:18 PM|
I've watched the show and Joe Locke is occasionally very pretty. Mostly he is awkward and jolie laide. He is charming. And he's very skinny and angular and one of the fashion It Boys of today, so he carries glamour and I like that. Of course his look, this type, could never appeal to most of the low-culture, low-brow, milquetoast taste DL eldergays of flyoverstan, who are humorlessly bitching about a young skinny up-and-coming star's looks. Joe is having a great time and is invited everywhere, despite not being a himbo, and wearing the latest high fashions, which not matter how ridiculous always fall well on a skinny guy of his age. This must enrage and embitter the fat fupa'd maiden aunties of DL who are rotting inside and out.
|by Anonymous||reply 150||September 24, 2023 12:51 PM|
I love how his stans keep linking to pictures that prove the opposite of the point they were trying to make.
But I guess I'm just low-brow.
|by Anonymous||reply 151||September 24, 2023 12:56 PM|
What opposite point does a pic like this prove to the argument that he is a jolie laide It Boy and one can enjoy that for what it is.
|by Anonymous||reply 152||September 24, 2023 1:00 PM|
R150's link is a comparatively good picture of him but I'm with R151. Young and skinny can be great but that face? Not for me.
|by Anonymous||reply 153||September 24, 2023 1:05 PM|
Do you ever appreciate Jolie Laide? Likely not. Stay away from Gaultier fashion shows.
|by Anonymous||reply 154||September 24, 2023 1:10 PM|
The fujoshi and baby gays who heavily stan Joe are likely uggo freaks so they have catholic tastes and can appreciate a look like Joe Locke's. I don't think they are deluded and perceive Joe the same as, say, Manu Ríos.
|by Anonymous||reply 155||September 24, 2023 1:18 PM|
A term used so much on DL it's lost it's meaning
And when I say pasty white guy I mean the redhead looking one, not the dark one.
|by Anonymous||reply 156||September 24, 2023 1:19 PM|
But the Republic of Ireland is directly adjacent to the United Kingdom, unlike the Isle of Man, r146, so saying something is UK adjacent isn't saying much.
|by Anonymous||reply 157||September 24, 2023 1:23 PM|
Isn't Joe Locke exactly how straight women like Alice Osman like their gays? Cute in a cutesy, needs to be looked after way and totally asexual.
|by Anonymous||reply 158||September 24, 2023 1:25 PM|
Oh, fuck off, r154. Your "nomadic European sophisticate" pose is even more cringeworthy than anything Flyoverstan has ever produced.
|by Anonymous||reply 159||September 24, 2023 1:27 PM|
R159 I'm so pleased to get the expected rouse out of you.
|by Anonymous||reply 160||September 24, 2023 1:29 PM|
He looks ill.
|by Anonymous||reply 161||September 24, 2023 1:31 PM|
R160, you mean get a [italic]rise[/italic]. T'as oublié?
|by Anonymous||reply 162||September 24, 2023 1:38 PM|
ya got me!
|by Anonymous||reply 163||September 24, 2023 1:41 PM|
r158 But he isn't cute
|by Anonymous||reply 164||September 24, 2023 1:54 PM|
We're going in circles. Cute is subjective.
|by Anonymous||reply 165||September 24, 2023 1:55 PM|
If you're totally lacking in taste, perhaps
|by Anonymous||reply 166||September 24, 2023 2:00 PM|
I’m Heartstopper indifferent.
|by Anonymous||reply 167||September 24, 2023 2:02 PM|
Who died and made R166 the arbiter of good taste?
|by Anonymous||reply 168||September 24, 2023 2:04 PM|
Not cute as in sexy, r164, but cute as in cuddly, like a pet or cuddly toy.
|by Anonymous||reply 169||September 24, 2023 2:20 PM|
He’s not that either.
|by Anonymous||reply 170||September 24, 2023 2:21 PM|
"I hate ugly Joe Locke and he has cooties and is just dumb!"
|by Anonymous||reply 171||September 24, 2023 2:25 PM|
R171 No one is reacting that way here at all. People are stating they think he’s unattractive while you freak out because you can’t understand it.
|by Anonymous||reply 172||September 24, 2023 2:28 PM|
r168 Says the poster who insist anyone who doesn't think he's hot is "low-culture, low-brow, milquetoast taste DL eldergays of flyoverstan".
Give it but can't take it, eh?
|by Anonymous||reply 173||September 24, 2023 2:31 PM|
If Lourdes Maria and Frida Kahlo had a kid, it would look like that thing at r150.
|by Anonymous||reply 174||September 24, 2023 4:31 PM|
Any self-respecting gay would push Joe out of the way to get to Kit.
|by Anonymous||reply 175||September 24, 2023 5:59 PM|
[quote] Any self-respecting gay would push Joe out of the way to get to Kit.
Kit's the pudgy pasty one, right?
|by Anonymous||reply 176||September 24, 2023 6:14 PM|
He's the one who looks like the lovechild of Brian Cox and a golden retriever
|by Anonymous||reply 177||September 24, 2023 6:24 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 178||September 24, 2023 6:28 PM|
R176 Yup. The fats are waiting for him to stop going to the gym.
|by Anonymous||reply 179||September 24, 2023 7:10 PM|
R176 We get it, you think Kit is pasty and fat. I guess that skinny juice cleanse is making you aggravated.
|by Anonymous||reply 180||September 24, 2023 7:24 PM|
Kit's fat where it counts
|by Anonymous||reply 181||September 24, 2023 7:30 PM|
Ya know, I said the thread is as bad as the Heartstopper lovers thread.
I was wrong. It's worse.
|by Anonymous||reply 182||September 24, 2023 7:52 PM|
Once Kit gets "me too'd" by some female extra, it will all erupt in fire.
|by Anonymous||reply 183||September 24, 2023 7:58 PM|
R182 Then go to that thread and shut up.
|by Anonymous||reply 184||September 24, 2023 8:00 PM|
DL is supposed to be all about gossip and pointless bitchery, right? I think this thread is a lot more in that tradition than threads drooling over some poor, fugly teenager for hundreds of posts, or basically, a fan site.
|by Anonymous||reply 185||September 24, 2023 8:03 PM|
r177 I never realised how much a young Brian Cox looks like Alan Partridge
|by Anonymous||reply 186||September 24, 2023 8:18 PM|
[quote] Ya know, I said the thread is as bad as the Heartstopper lovers thread.
[quote] I was wrong. It's worse.
r182 You're right. We haters have unwittingly created another fan thread for this abominable gay soap opera.🤣
|by Anonymous||reply 187||September 24, 2023 9:31 PM|
R172 R173 reading skills? I argued he is fashionable and jolie laide. Not hot.
|by Anonymous||reply 188||September 24, 2023 11:08 PM|
r188 And yet neither of those are true, despite your attempts to brow-beat people into agreeing with you.
|by Anonymous||reply 189||September 24, 2023 11:11 PM|
I could give a fuck if you agree with me. I don't think he ugly and you do.
|by Anonymous||reply 190||September 24, 2023 11:16 PM|
[quote]I could give a fuck if you
Yes, from your repeated replies and saying anyone who disagrees with you is low-class, that much is obvious.
|by Anonymous||reply 191||September 24, 2023 11:18 PM|
He ugly, he ugly, he ain't got no aliby, he ugly!
|by Anonymous||reply 192||September 24, 2023 11:20 PM|
R183 You do know everyone on that set is gay, right?
|by Anonymous||reply 193||September 24, 2023 11:22 PM|
Well they’re English schoolboys after all.
|by Anonymous||reply 194||September 24, 2023 11:37 PM|
R193 Sure, Jan.
|by Anonymous||reply 195||September 24, 2023 11:44 PM|
I'm not trying to change your narrow taste, sweetie. I'm snarking about it.
|by Anonymous||reply 196||September 24, 2023 11:51 PM|
Oh is that what you think you're doing?
|by Anonymous||reply 197||September 25, 2023 12:35 AM|
"I know you are but what am I?"
|by Anonymous||reply 198||September 25, 2023 3:00 AM|
Joe probably paddles Kit and humiliates him by calling him fat.
|by Anonymous||reply 199||September 25, 2023 6:13 AM|
Those two ugly kids should just fuck and get it over with.
|by Anonymous||reply 200||September 25, 2023 6:14 AM|
Joe's got a face like a donkey, maybe he's got the cock as well.
|by Anonymous||reply 201||September 25, 2023 6:16 AM|
Kit sucks donkey dicks.
|by Anonymous||reply 202||September 25, 2023 6:19 AM|
Joe brays loudly when he cums - scares the neighbors.
|by Anonymous||reply 203||September 25, 2023 6:22 AM|
At least the agreement between fans and your trolls asses is that Joe Locke and Kit Connor should fuck in real life too.
|by Anonymous||reply 204||September 25, 2023 11:11 AM|
R204 It would be less boring than the endless whining about who likes whose posts and who is taking pictures blah blah blah.
|by Anonymous||reply 205||September 25, 2023 12:40 PM|
One poster vs a whole deranged fandom r204.
|by Anonymous||reply 206||September 25, 2023 3:42 PM|
Baby gay show for girls, not gay men.
|by Anonymous||reply 207||September 25, 2023 3:56 PM|
Straight girls, r207.
|by Anonymous||reply 208||September 25, 2023 5:02 PM|
R208 Sure, Jan.
|by Anonymous||reply 209||September 25, 2023 5:12 PM|
You think gay girls are Heartstopper fans, r209? My gay girl girlfriend watches it, but only as something to veg out in front of. Other than that, I can't say the lesbians care that much for it, even if there is a lesbian couple in the show.
|by Anonymous||reply 210||September 25, 2023 9:09 PM|
I don’t know how far the producers would want to go in showing characters having sex who are underage or on the borderline.
|by Anonymous||reply 211||September 26, 2023 7:08 PM|
R211, that would be unheard of!
|by Anonymous||reply 212||September 26, 2023 7:12 PM|
Think they're supposed to be 15/16 R211, so I guess in season 3 they can legally fuck each other senseless? Not that I seem to recall illegality stopping me much at 15.
Can't wait, Netflix/Helix crossover! /s
|by Anonymous||reply 213||September 26, 2023 7:19 PM|
R212 Show regularly portray teens age 14-15 having sex? I didn’t realize that.
|by Anonymous||reply 214||September 27, 2023 2:15 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 215||September 27, 2023 2:16 AM|
Where’s the Dler with the timescale of Joe and Bash’s relationship and time in Atlanta? I ‘d like to look at that spreadsheet again, if possible.
|by Anonymous||reply 216||September 29, 2023 12:20 AM|
This is taking me out.
|by Anonymous||reply 217||September 29, 2023 2:06 AM|
[quote] I don’t know how far the producers would want to go in showing characters having sex who are underage or on the borderline.
[quote] Think they're supposed to be 15/16 r211 , so I guess in season 3 they can legally fuck each other senseless?
r213 Them fucking is legal. You watching it is child porn.
|by Anonymous||reply 218||September 29, 2023 3:08 AM|
Age of consent in GB is 16. Also, fictional.
|by Anonymous||reply 219||September 29, 2023 7:41 AM|
I think the point is you can only go so young, in depicting sexual relationships on TV shows. Especially in the leads roles who would be considered role models. At some point there are going to be serious objections.
|by Anonymous||reply 220||September 29, 2023 1:06 PM|
You can do it but it depends on the show so Skins, Elite and Euphoria tend to get a pass (well I've seen Euphoria gets some complaints from Zendaya fangirls about sexualising minors). But Heartstopper I'm pretty sure its fans are 95%+ teen girls would morph into a lynch mob if they even suggest they've given each other handjobs. The only character who had a hint of a sex drive is Ben and he got written as a an aggressive borderline rapist who everyone hates in show and online.
|by Anonymous||reply 221||September 29, 2023 1:15 PM|
You guys are right, though - if you put any one on ignore in the Heartstopper threads you can see it's just a very tiny handful of people answering each other.
|by Anonymous||reply 222||October 8, 2023 8:17 PM|
It's hilarious, the dozy fuckers might as well just email each other.
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