Barbie has already started it’s campaign for “Best Original Screenplay”

Oh dear.

What other real possibility do they have? Original Song?

Supporting Actor. Production Design.

[quote] What other real possibility do they have?

[quote] Supporting Actor

Ryan Goaling

Sensible. The Original Screenplay award has become the default Oscar for the sort of Indies, offbeat films, and non-dramas that don't have a shot at Best Picture. Because the AMPAS has a dreadful case of genre prejudice, it thinks that only Serious Dramas should be considered for Best Picture.

So Best Original Screenplay now means "Best Other Picture".

Best Original Screenplay means best original screenplay written that wasn’t an adaptation from a source material. It means exactly what it is.

The “No?” Troll strikes again.

R7, the “No” Troll is Rafael Nadal, or should it be the ¿No? Troll?

Oppenheimer is based on a book so they think this has a better shot at winning in this category. The film probably will get nominated for Best Picture, Best Director, best actress, supporting actor (with a real push for RG to win), maybe America Ferrera for best supporting actress, and then production design, costumes....

It’s a terrific screenplay.

Oppenheimer is Adapted Screenplay. Barbie is Original. One has nothing to do with the other. The issue is will the academy view it as original. Some feel it’s an adaptation in its own way.

It’s actually going up for a new category and I think it’s a lock!

‘Best Screenplay (that felt like being beat to death with a Gender Studies textbook at Sarah Lawrence for 2 hours)’

R11 One definitely does have something to do with the other. Oppenheimer is likely to win best adapted screenplay. Barbie is a unique, curious situation because there's so little Academy experience with how a movie based on a toy line should be nominated--but the movie is based on so much of the last 50 years of Barbie its wild if they get away with calling it an original screenplay. It's not. It just has a better chance of winning in the original category.

There are 100s of Barbie books

R14 exactly. And all the looks etc. were taken from dolls released over the years.

And R14, there are dozens or hundreds of cheap-ass Barbie animated movies. I learned about their existence while surfing basic cable while working nights, and desperately trying to find something other than infomercials anywhere.

[quote]What other real possibility do they have? Original Song?

Are you blind? It will probably win production design. Very likely nominations for best song and best supporting actor for Gosling. Could also see nods for Robbie in Best Actress, Gerwig for Director, and of course Best Picture, being both a commercially successful and critically acclaimed film. It won't sweep and might not win anything but it will be nominated in multiple categories.

Ah yes because it has such powerful, memorable lines like "people create patriarchy to deal with how uncomfortable life is."

R9 the studio doesn’t get to pick between original or adapted. Under Academy rules, it will be considered only as an original screenplay…

I have a feeling Noah wrote the America Ferrera monologue. That monologue was an even cringier version of Laura Dern’s rant in Marriage Story.

R11 knows nothing—that’s not how the Academy rules work. The screenplay is clearly an original work.

It should be nominated for Best Picture as well. It’s very well done big concept film I hate pretentious people who say but it’s Barbie. The Academy is bias towards sci-fi films in this regard as well. Very well done premise and expertly executed with dam good performances by the two leads. These type of films are very hard to achieve both entertainment value and artistic merit.

This film is like the new age Wizard of Oz.

This movie was such a piece of shit. Ken was the only bright spot and it wasn't enough.

They may throw it a bone for the marketing campaign but it doesn't deserve any of the artistic awards and that includes Best Screenplay. If they get it then it's going to actually be an award for advertising which totally sucks.

Ben Shapiro has entered the chat at R23.

[quote]The screenplay is clearly an original work.

They could rule it adapted the same way they ruled that Joker was adapted, as it was based on an already existing character.

More Barbie publicity

It’s coming so streaming and Blu-ray.

Fuck off, please

R11 How the fuck is this an adapted screenplay. An adapted screenplay is that from a source material ie a play or novel. Not a fkin toy company.

MAX running commercials that it's coming soon.

Joker is different. His origin story had been produced and exist in many different mediums, preexisting films, the comics. All produced art with written word. It is not merely because he was an existing character. Did Barbie produce a string of books. This will not be an adapted screenplay.

And it has to be specific to the content. Again the Joker origin story has been spelled out explicitly in those previous written works. Barbie might have had cartoon or even kid books but nothing which presented her story like this film created.

I would bet my 401K that "Barbie" gets an award for "Best Costumes", but that's probably it for Oscars.

The AMPAS's genre prejudice is still strong, although maybe it'll unbend enough to give Gosling a nom, and his odds are better if there's category fraud and they put him up for supporting.

It was the movie of the year so the Academy will have to acknowledge and nominate it but that’s it. The feminism/patriarchy themes will not go over well with the Academy’s older male members.

R29 spot on. Agreed—

This was a fun movie, and obviously very profitable, but let's be real: nothing about it is Oscar-worthy.

Decades from now people will be able to clearly see that this movie was mediocre as shit.

Saw this the other night and didn't know what to expect. Strange, weirdly entertaining but preachy and annoying at the same time. It was definitely different so Best Costume Design or something? Margot's production company will be pleased with the box office.

I thought Ryan Gosling was the best thing about it. And let's have a golf clap for the Goaling troll at R4. I'd rather see 'Gerg' - which I actually think is hilarious - happen before Goaling which isn't funny at all.

Over hyped commercial

True, R34, what I find so bizarre is that everyone doesn't see that already when it's so glaringly apparent.

We look back on the fact that it made a billion dollars with great amusement, embarrassment, and shame. The script is completely mediocre and the social commentary approach is indeed annoying and ineffective.

Yeah! I hate girly shit too!

The Academy should give Barbie the "Madonna Award" for fabulous marketing with very little backing it up.

Visually stimulating but that’s about it. Aesthetics can only do so much when you have very little plot.

R30: This has to be one of the most egregious cases of category fraud in the history of the Oscars. I get it his chances are greater if he goes supporting but his name is literally above the fucking title on the poster. It’s not like Will Ferrell or any of the other Ken had a much longer and integral role.

R42 agreed.

The L.A. Film Critics which rarely get it right will probably vote it Best Picture.

This movie is so triggering for some of you.

The only good thing about the movie was Robbie. I couldn’t stand Gosling—which is always the way I feel about him in everything. The movie was crap. The hype is beyond ridiculous and I’m annoyed at myself for buying into it.

The script was the worst part. The first half was pretty good with the world building. But once the film realized it needed a plot, it kind of panicked and became annoyingly preachy about gender politics.

It will get some award nominations for saving the summer box office, but it won't win anything major.

I agree that the screenplay had too many plates spinning in the air at once but what a glorious swing for the fence.

I loved Barbie, not least because it was a visual and audial eye and ear gasm.

R45 I know. It’s sad. It’s like oh no the color pink, Barbie, feminism. It’s can’t be a critically lauded film.

[quote] Ryan Goaling

Don’t want to brag but he’s a close and personal friend.