'The Fall of the House of Usher' mini-series
[quote]In this wicked series from Mike Flanagan and based on the works of Edgar Allan Poe, ruthless siblings Roderick and Madeline Usher have built Fortunato Pharmaceuticals into an empire of wealth, privilege and power. But past secrets come to light when the heirs to the Usher dynasty start dying at the hands of a mysterious woman from their youth.
Eight episodes, out October 12.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 153 | December 8, 2023 8:02 AM
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Who knew that Poe wrote about pharma companies. How prescient of him.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | September 12, 2023 5:09 PM
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He was an opium addict so it kind of makes sense.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | September 12, 2023 5:31 PM
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Poe's staying power is remarkable. I taught eight grade American lit and he was the only author the kids were excited about.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | September 12, 2023 5:35 PM
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I can't stand the heavy handed use of filters. It's just ugly and lazy. There are better ways to convey mood.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | September 12, 2023 5:36 PM
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It looks very......dramatic.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | September 12, 2023 6:35 PM
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It's Mike Flanagan. There will be long dramatic dialogues.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | September 12, 2023 6:49 PM
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After only two seasons, I already like Mike Flanagan’s horror anthology better than American Horror Story. His shows have better writing, directing and acting. I’m a little disappointed to see the main character from Bly Manor isn’t in this one. It I love this ensemble more than AHS. And they’ve added Mark Hamill (AHS added Kim Kardashian 🙄) so I like that it’s growing and in a good direction.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | September 12, 2023 8:46 PM
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I want Rahul Kohli to cum in my eyes
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 8 | September 12, 2023 9:07 PM
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I remember in one of the many film versions where the sister dies after bleeding from her eyes, and another character saying that meant she'd lost her soul.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | September 12, 2023 9:36 PM
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Too bad hottie Oliver Jackson Cohen won't be in it.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | September 15, 2023 5:35 AM
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A little bit of Mike Flanagan goes a long way. His shows are too much of the same and not in a fun way.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | September 15, 2023 10:55 AM
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Just doesn't seem right to do anything Poe related without Vincent Price.
Although given Poes home was bought by NYU, nothing is sacred.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | September 15, 2023 5:57 PM
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Couldn't get through Bly Manor (i lost interest in Ep. 2). Really liked Hill House and Midnight Mass, the teen one (Midnight Suicide Club?) was so depressing. Of course I'll be watching this.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | September 25, 2023 9:53 PM
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Looks good but that trailer has much more than needed, almost a spoiler.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | September 25, 2023 10:07 PM
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David Decouteau's 2008 gay version, "House of Usher," has men in tighty whities and less.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 16 | September 25, 2023 10:37 PM
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How will this affect his Super Bowl appearance?
by Anonymous | reply 17 | September 25, 2023 11:17 PM
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Is Henry Thomas legally obligated to appear in every Mike Flanagan production?
by Anonymous | reply 18 | September 26, 2023 12:03 AM
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We need to see more reviews, the outlets that have reviewed it so far are pretty janky. I might give it a watch despite the overly long trailer.
r8 He's so hot and looks so good in that boardroom scene in the trailer. Had no idea he was British.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 19 | September 26, 2023 8:31 AM
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Hmm, I liked the old Roger Corman Poe adaptations because they're so campy, silly & have this Spanish nobility decadence + the swinging sixties thing going. This looks like the standard "wealthy awful people get the comeuppance they so richly deserve" - no irony to be found. Which is disappointing because I liked Haunting of Hill House & Midnight Mass, mostly I think because the ensemble casts were pretty good. But this one looks uninspired.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | September 26, 2023 9:15 AM
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Flanagan should do a mini series about Jonbenet Ramsey.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | September 26, 2023 9:27 AM
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He'd just cast Kate Siegel as JonBenét and use CG to de-age her, he can't help himself.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | September 26, 2023 9:36 AM
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I just cannot get excited about this. I was hoping for a period piece.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | September 26, 2023 1:12 PM
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Remember the TV movie starring Charlene Tilton? I loved it as a kid
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 24 | September 26, 2023 1:38 PM
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I loved this campy Charlene Tilton version from 1979
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 25 | September 26, 2023 1:39 PM
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Mike Flanagan is what Ryan Murphy would be if he didn't cast his shows based on which twinks he wanted to fuck.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | September 26, 2023 1:44 PM
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Mike Flanagan casts people who look like Carla Gugino, whom he wants to fuck.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | September 26, 2023 1:48 PM
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I liked Midnight Mass quite a bit, especially Hamish Linklater's performance. But Flanagan nearly ruined it with all those long, dull monologues. It was like every time something scary or dramatic was about to happen, first one of the characters had to deliver a long ass soliloquy about something that happened to them many years earlier. It was foolish.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | September 26, 2023 2:05 PM
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[quote]He'd just cast Kate Siegel as JonBenét and use CG to de-age her, he can't help himself.
I'm available! No CGI needed!
by Anonymous | reply 30 | September 26, 2023 3:38 PM
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I had friends who worked on Midnight Mass- they don't de-age them, they use a ton of prosthetics and wigs to make them older looking. Also said that Flanagan is a nightmare to work with, never want to work with him again, but then went back for Bly? Or the teen thing? I asked them why and they said the money was too good, because there was some puppeteering involved, and they get more money doing that for residuals.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | September 26, 2023 3:42 PM
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[quote]asked them why and they said the money was too good, because there was some puppeteering involved, and they get more money doing that for residuals.
What does that mean "puppeteering"?
by Anonymous | reply 32 | September 26, 2023 5:13 PM
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[quote]they use a ton of prosthetics and wigs to make them older looking
We know, it looked like shit.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | September 26, 2023 7:24 PM
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r32, Creatures, babies, animals, sometimes dummies for people (getting stabbed or such) are for lack of a better expression, puppets. People who operate them get put under the actor's guild and get residuals.
r33 Yeah- I talked to them about that (and they're very good artists (they always work on Zack Snyder and James Wan's stuff). Apparently they did all the camera tests and it was all great until the cinematographer decided to change the lighting palette right at filming, and it fucked them over- they had pre-made and colored all the prosthetic pieces (like they do on big spfx makeup projects) to match the old lighting. They tried to adjust, but there is only so much you can do to pre-colored silicone pieces. Production was not sympathetic to them, as they spent much of the budget on pre-production pieces and couldn't produce a lot more. They even had production look at the actors outside and in original lighting, production agreed it looked great in that lighting, but oh well, suck it up buttercups.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | September 26, 2023 8:36 PM
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Interesting; thanks for the explanation R34. I didn't initially think of that as "puppeteering", but that makes sense.
by Anonymous | reply 35 | September 27, 2023 10:38 AM
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Unfortunately that awful kid actress Kyleigh Curran who stunk up DOCTOR SLEEP is in this.
R18, there are a number of actors in this who have been in multiple Flanagan projects (e.g., Carla Gugino, Annabeth Gish, Zach Gilford, and his semi-talented GF Kate Segal).
by Anonymous | reply 37 | October 5, 2023 6:22 PM
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Henry Thomas played the Jack Torrance role in Dr. Sleep.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | October 6, 2023 3:28 AM
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And he was pretty good too. There were a couple of camera angles (profiles I believe) where he looked a lot like Nicholson.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | October 6, 2023 7:16 PM
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"A darkly mesmerizing, erotic horror-thriller, a supernatural gothic Succession, queering the work and writing an obsessive, ritualistic performance." More lesbians of course.
by Anonymous | reply 40 | October 7, 2023 3:56 AM
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THis looks really good. I was disappointed by The Midnight Society.
by Anonymous | reply 41 | October 9, 2023 1:59 AM
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What was the cause of the house's fall in the story?
by Anonymous | reply 42 | October 9, 2023 4:25 AM
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Did Henry Thomas always have gay voice?
by Anonymous | reply 43 | October 12, 2023 9:29 AM
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I recently found a preview about this series, describing many of the characters and their role in the story. Imagine my delight when I saw that sexy actor Rahul Kohli's character has been given a boyfriend. I had never seen him before I watched Flanagan's Netflix series "The Haunting of Bly Manor" and thought he was great. He was even better in "Midnight Mass", so I'm happy that he also made it into this series.
Flanagan has not shied away from gay themes in the past - "THOBM" was about a lesbian couple and the life they made together. Also, people here on DL have speculated about Rahul's orientation for a while, and if true, he would probably have no problem with appropriate scenes with a guy. We can only hope that we get gay love scenes with Rahul. Hope hard!
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 44 | October 12, 2023 6:25 PM
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I would actually prefer he do inappropriate scenes with a guy.
by Anonymous | reply 45 | October 12, 2023 6:30 PM
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In his first scene he's getting a blow job from a woman.
by Anonymous | reply 46 | October 13, 2023 4:02 AM
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Remember Frank Langella was fired from this series. He was playing Roderick, got handsy with some actress playing his wife, and got shitcanned. Obviously replaced by Bruce Greenwood, and maybe partly by Mary McDonnell’s ridiculously big wig.
by Anonymous | reply 47 | October 13, 2023 12:23 PM
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Just started watching this, everything is so pale and gray.
by Anonymous | reply 48 | October 13, 2023 1:46 PM
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I don't believe Langella would touch that little troll who's playing Roderick's wife. Surely it was someone else.
by Anonymous | reply 49 | October 13, 2023 3:26 PM
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Based on the trailer, the use of filters is extremely heavy handed. It looks very ugly to me. There are much better ways to convey mood.
by Anonymous | reply 50 | October 13, 2023 3:46 PM
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Who is that ugly broad Roderick is married to? She's all hunched over and I don't see the attraction a billionaire would have for her.
by Anonymous | reply 51 | October 13, 2023 4:01 PM
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Ruth Codd. She was also in The Midnight Society.
by Anonymous | reply 52 | October 13, 2023 4:06 PM
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Henry Thomas is awful. He works with Flanagan because nobody else will hire him.
by Anonymous | reply 54 | October 13, 2023 4:12 PM
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They should have gotten a hotter bisexual twink.
by Anonymous | reply 55 | October 15, 2023 3:30 AM
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I’ve liked Flanagan’s stuff on Netflix to a greater or lesser extent. I like that he works with a stock company, it’s kind of like the old studio system. But I wasn’t wild about the first episode: had hoped for a period piece, something more faithful to the original story, but okay. But I found it over-elaborate and strained — Too many characters, too many flashbacks, too gimmicky in every way. Will I keep watching? Sure.
But since all his series have been big ratings-getters for Netflix, why did they let him go to F/X or wherever? I don’t get it.
by Anonymous | reply 56 | October 15, 2023 4:02 AM
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His next project will be The Dark Tower on Amazon.
by Anonymous | reply 57 | October 15, 2023 4:09 AM
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This is a troubled production, and it shows. The reshoots must have been awful…Greenwood is in so many scenes and I believe Langella was fired late in principal photography. Some scenes are oddly lacking…the actors seem to be missing some spark they may have had in their first go at it.
Greenwood is so average. Langella would have elevated it. The actor playing the attorney general sucks. He could very well be the worst actor at playing a homosexual ever. I assume he was acrecast because he would have been exceptionally unconvincing as someone going toe to toe with Langella.
The production looks a bit low budget beyond the facade. That phalanx of paps outside the funeral service? It was all of 7 or 8 actors shot tight.
Plus, which fake NYC stand in city was this shot in?
Worst of all…another Sackler/Opioid Epidemic angle? The Opioid epidemic is to the present what the Vietnam War was to the late 70s-mid-80s…or AIDS to the late 80s to mid 90s: once daring subject matter but now overexposed and lazy in movies and tv.
The actors playing the family members are mostly good. I love T’nia Miller. Some of the guys are hottish. Carla Gugino is always excellent. Mary McDonnell is fun but is acting like she’s on American Horror Story. Some of the minor roles are played by local talent that takes you out of it.
That being said, it does well when the ensemble is interacting and the set design is lovely: I like how every child of Usher’s gets a color palette.
by Anonymous | reply 58 | October 15, 2023 6:30 AM
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The different colors are a nod to The Masque of the Red Death. In that story every room in the palace is a different color.
by Anonymous | reply 59 | October 15, 2023 6:40 AM
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I just started watching and I’m liking it. I don’t know Mike Flanagans work but I’ll check it out. I’m a huge Carla Gugino fan. I’m gay and have never touched a woman but I’d love to fuck her.
by Anonymous | reply 60 | October 15, 2023 1:43 PM
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Complete and utter garbage. I tried to get into it, just couldn't.
HHH was the only quality programming he's produced.
by Anonymous | reply 61 | October 15, 2023 1:55 PM
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I couldn't make it through the first episode. Bruce Greenwood can't really carry a show, the Sackler thing was too obvious, and the pacing was dreadfully slow and talky.
by Anonymous | reply 62 | October 15, 2023 5:13 PM
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I really, really loved HILL HOUSE and DOCTOR SLEEP but Mike Flanagan is turning into a one-trick pony who desperately needs another script editor/a better script editor. His writing is too mannered and self-indulgent at this point. The whole production feels dreary and awkward - can't get into it at all.
Much love still for Carla Gugino. What a beautiful woman.
by Anonymous | reply 63 | October 15, 2023 7:24 PM
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Wow, that orgy turned into a horror show.
by Anonymous | reply 64 | October 16, 2023 12:06 AM
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A bit too clever at times. The RUE morgue? Really now.
by Anonymous | reply 65 | October 16, 2023 12:18 AM
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Most of the episode titles are named after Edgar Allan Poe stories. Is there some sense of cleverness you're referring to other than that, R65?
by Anonymous | reply 66 | October 16, 2023 4:11 AM
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The facility where the monkeys were kept was called Roderick Usher Enterprises.
by Anonymous | reply 67 | October 16, 2023 4:14 AM
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I've finished episode 4 so far and I love it. I love that Flanagan likes to keep the same ensemble cast, for the most part.
Ruth Codd is so much fun - love her. Not sure why Richie Rich Roderick wants a stable junkie as a wife, but maybe that was to redeem his drug baby?
Is the sister (Madeleine) in love with her brother? Why were they sleeping in the same bed when mommy "came back" ?
by Anonymous | reply 68 | October 16, 2023 4:10 PM
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R68, having them go out on New Year’s Eve dressed as Jay Gatsby and Daisy Buchanan was a bit of a tell, too.
Many people have seen in Poe’s story (which is short, and has only three characters) suggestions of an incestuous relationship between Roderick and Madeleine. In the story, they live together in an isolated manor, which Roderick believes is malevolent, and both suffer from mysterious ailments.
by Anonymous | reply 69 | October 16, 2023 4:28 PM
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All the bad people were bisexual /gay.
by Anonymous | reply 70 | October 16, 2023 7:26 PM
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Everybody in the movie was a fucked up bad person except Anabel, Juno and Lenore and some were straight. What was the kink that Tamerlane had with watching hookers pretend to be a wife to hubby?
by Anonymous | reply 71 | October 16, 2023 7:32 PM
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She was a control freak who got off on some other woman servicing her husband.
by Anonymous | reply 72 | October 16, 2023 7:35 PM
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The only straight people were Roderick, Frederick, and possibly Madeline.
by Anonymous | reply 73 | October 16, 2023 7:35 PM
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R 56 here. I sort of take back what I said above. I stuck with it and realized I was into it by episode 3. He adapted this in a similar way to “The Haunting of Hill House,” using the original story as a loose framework to explore various siblings from an unhappy, dysfunctional family.
This one reminded me of those horror anthology movies from the ‘60s and ‘ 70s which told three or four different supernatural stories through a narrative arc like an antique shop, a haunted mirror, etc. I thought the Poe stories were wittily changed and adapted, the whole thing was great fun.
Langella was a fine actor and always creepy as fuck so I guess he would have been better casting as the wicked father. But as someone who has never liked Bruce Greenwood, I thought he was pretty good. Seeing the same Flanagan-friendly faces from his other mini-series added to my enjoyment. I’d give it somewhere between B+ and A-.
by Anonymous | reply 74 | October 16, 2023 7:42 PM
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I was engaged enough to watch almost till the end, but I agree with a reviewer who said this is not a good series to binge watch. It becomes almost monotonous.
by Anonymous | reply 75 | October 16, 2023 9:20 PM
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I tried and wanted to like this, but I didn't even make it through the third episode. Too forced, trying too hard to be edgy. The only resemblance to the Poe original is the name Usher. I was hoping for a perverse, gothic period piece in the vein of Crimson Peak not this Big Pharma-infused mess.
by Anonymous | reply 76 | October 16, 2023 10:07 PM
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[quote]Many people have seen in Poe’s story (which is short, and has only three characters) suggestions of an incestuous relationship between Roderick and Madeleine.
The narrator states the Usher family tree is unusual in that it's straight - no branches. I think there's also some line about how Roderick & Madeline's abnormalities can likely be attributed to too much inbreeding.
I think the problem with using Poe as source material is that all of his stories are very short and the evils of Big Pharma has already been done to death.
by Anonymous | reply 77 | October 16, 2023 11:49 PM
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The evils of Big Pharma can never be done to death. Could have cheered at Mary McDonald’s monolog in the last episode was great. You all do remember we have a national election next year? And that the ONLY hope that we can even begin to tckle Big Pharma, income inequality, the environment, etc., etc., will be if we have a Dem president and a clear majority in both houses? Get the message out loud and clear and keep it the fuck up. Too mmy of you sound like entitled conservative libertarians. Fuck off.
You know who surprised me? Mark Hamill. He was actually good, and he was always terrible in all those “Star Wars” movies.
And am I the only one who wanted to fuck Michael Trucco, who played the asshole boss Rufus Griswold? I have a proven weakness for tall, blue-eyed, broad-shouldered, fat-cocked douchebags, and he fills the bill very well.
by Anonymous | reply 78 | October 17, 2023 12:09 AM
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R78 I agree, Mark Hamill was excellent in this. And, he didn't take the bait (his character).
As previously mentioned by a poster above, I also was disappointed that all the LGBTQ+ characters (except for one minor character, Leo's boyfriend) die in this. We knew the sibs all would- but all the LGBTQ+ ones die first. (Really?) They didn't have to kill off Victorine's GF.
Was a little unclear what happened to lone survivor of the acid bath party, the former model / wife of Freddie. Her daughter is told she will survive and go on to do good, but then it appears that Juno gets all the money and she is the one who does good. I'm confused.
by Anonymous | reply 79 | October 17, 2023 3:11 PM
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R79, I'm a bit confused about that too. Why tell that young girl all that and then kill her?
by Anonymous | reply 80 | October 17, 2023 3:23 PM
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I really liked Midnight Mass, but this was total trash - the dialogue is dreadful and the whole thing is pitched like an 'I Know What You Did Last Summer' sequel. Massively disappointing and Poe must be spinning in his grave.
by Anonymous | reply 81 | October 17, 2023 3:32 PM
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R79 The prosecutor was gay, also.
by Anonymous | reply 82 | October 17, 2023 3:41 PM
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Does it suffer from one of each in every scene casting?
by Anonymous | reply 83 | October 17, 2023 3:43 PM
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R82 yes, that is correct. However, that was a very underdeveloped character. We never get to see his husband or family or really, anything much about him.
by Anonymous | reply 84 | October 17, 2023 4:52 PM
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R76 that’s exactly what I wanted!
by Anonymous | reply 85 | October 17, 2023 9:16 PM
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[quote]And am I the only one who wanted to fuck Michael Trucco, who played the asshole boss Rufus Griswold? I have a proven weakness for tall, blue-eyed, broad-shouldered, fat-cocked douchebags, and he fills the bill very well.
Yes, except he's not blue-eyed.
by Anonymous | reply 86 | October 17, 2023 9:42 PM
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Mary McDonnell is a gem in this series. I’ve always loved her ever since Independence Day.
by Anonymous | reply 87 | October 18, 2023 4:05 AM
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I wish they had made her a Cylon in Battle Star.
by Anonymous | reply 88 | October 18, 2023 4:10 AM
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Are Madeline and Roderick in an incestuous relationship?
by Anonymous | reply 89 | October 18, 2023 5:52 AM
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Zach Gilford is one of those actors who always exudes an odd sort of sexuality, even though he's not conventionally good looking. I don't know what it is.
by Anonymous | reply 90 | October 18, 2023 8:50 AM
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R90 oh yeah. He's super hot. Yes please.
by Anonymous | reply 91 | October 18, 2023 4:06 PM
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R90 it’s his eyes and partial smile he does.
by Anonymous | reply 92 | October 18, 2023 4:10 PM
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I can’t imagine this with Frank Langella’s old ass.
by Anonymous | reply 93 | October 19, 2023 2:45 AM
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Which attractive women would Langella have filmed scenes with? Kate Siegel? Pretty ballsy to hit on the director's wife.
by Anonymous | reply 94 | October 19, 2023 5:55 AM
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Well, it’s definitely not Ruth Codd R94.
by Anonymous | reply 95 | October 19, 2023 11:17 PM
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I was thinking it MUST have been Ruth Codd. When Roderick Usher is older, the new young wife is the only character he has any romantic scenes with. And wasn’t the whole problem that the actress was offended at the way he treated her in such a scene?
Also, Codd is a fairly inexperienced actor, she was a TikTok celebrity or something in Ireland when Flanagan first cast her in “Midnight Club.” Can’t you just see Langella — who was a judgmental cunt, though talented — complaining out loud about her inexperience and odd looks and how no one would believe any man could fall for her?
by Anonymous | reply 96 | October 20, 2023 3:42 AM
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I recall the issue being that Langella touched the actress inappropriately. Katie Parker? Old Roderick has a scene with her at a funeral. Mary McDonnell isn't ugly but I assumed it was a young woman.
by Anonymous | reply 97 | October 20, 2023 3:46 AM
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R78 Do you really believe a silly streamer that will be forgotten in about 3 weeks helps "get the message out there?"
by Anonymous | reply 98 | October 20, 2023 4:58 AM
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You’ll be terrified by how bored you are!
by Anonymous | reply 99 | October 20, 2023 5:09 AM
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R99 actually, I thought it was the best one yet since Haunting of Hill House. I would rank them:
1) Haunting of Hill House
2) The Fall of the House of Usher
3) Midnight Mass
4) Midnight Club
5) The Haunting of Bly Manor (trash)
by Anonymous | reply 100 | October 20, 2023 2:48 PM
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Midnight Club was the worst.
by Anonymous | reply 101 | October 21, 2023 4:22 AM
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Why is every character fucking their assistants?
by Anonymous | reply 102 | October 21, 2023 10:42 AM
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R102 It’s decadence as imagined by the bourgeoise (Flanagan, not Usher). Hence, polished and lifeless. The sexual equivalent of buying an Hermes bag.
What would you expect from Mike Flanagan? I’m sure he’s read about orgies, but never actually been to one..
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 103 | October 21, 2023 2:07 PM
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R78 Tell me more about “all those Star Wars movies.” I’m not familiar with them.
by Anonymous | reply 104 | October 21, 2023 2:08 PM
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Bruce Greenwood looks great for his age. Still fuckable.
R101 it really was. It took me four months to finish watching the series. It was such a chore to get through. All the other series I watched in two or three days.
My favorite part of Usher was when Lenore called Hamill a fucking ghoul and said that she wouldn’t let him talk to her mom and basically fuck this family and the company. Hell yeah, girl.
R78 you’re not the only one. Rufus Griswold was hot. Just my type (in looks, not personality)
by Anonymous | reply 105 | October 22, 2023 2:03 AM
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Kate Siegel's monologue in E3 went on forever, but it was great. I didn't even realize it was her.
by Anonymous | reply 106 | October 22, 2023 10:50 AM
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[quote]I really liked Midnight Mass, but this was total trash - the dialogue is dreadful and the whole thing is pitched like an 'I Know What You Did Last Summer' sequel.
The dialogue? I'm the least prudish person but wasn't anyone bothered by the constant "fucks" Every character except maybe the youngest Lenore constantly said it, like every other sentence. It wasn't even just the family, one line supporting characters did too. Very sloppy writing, it just took me out of it. "Goodfellas" had less "fucks" in it.
[quote]Who is that ugly broad Roderick is married to? She's all hunched over and I don't see the attraction a billionaire would have for her.
It was clearly explained he married her for business.
Emmy nom for Carla Gugino, she was fantastic in the last episode.
by Anonymous | reply 107 | October 23, 2023 9:03 AM
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That’s what I like about Carla Gugino. She acts with her voice and it’s absolutely amazing - chilling and yet comfortable at the same time.
by Anonymous | reply 108 | October 23, 2023 9:52 AM
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[quote]we can even begin to tckle Big Pharma
Leave me out of the Big Pharma tickling.
by Anonymous | reply 110 | October 23, 2023 10:06 AM
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I once dropped acid at a rave…
by Anonymous | reply 111 | October 23, 2023 10:28 AM
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Some amazing acting in this show. The show is so extra and unhinged yet the actors manage to make it seem real. Kudos!
by Anonymous | reply 112 | October 23, 2023 11:35 AM
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It was just not very good. The guy who played the evil father part seemed more like the coach of a neighborhood Little League team.
by Anonymous | reply 113 | October 23, 2023 12:03 PM
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Maybe, but it was an EVIL Little League team.
by Anonymous | reply 114 | October 23, 2023 12:09 PM
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My fave Flanagan show yet. Where did they find the actor who played Prospero? He acted circles around many of Flanagan's regulars, such a pleasant surprise. And his voice is such a soothing hybrid of Jeremy Strong's and Jack Quaid's voice. Peculiar body, though – legs hairy like a werewolf but zero muscles on them, and a swimmer's torso with pubescent nips.
The coked-up evil father was the worst part and I didn't buy the frau (Lennon Parham from Wish) who masturbated to scenes of domestic life at all. The arc with the reward for ratting out the mole introduced in the premiere was dropped completely, which I didn't like either.
Mary McDonnell's wig was all sorts of awful, but she was my favourite part.
by Anonymous | reply 115 | October 23, 2023 1:08 PM
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Samantha Sloyan played the masturbating frau. She's a Flanagan regular.
by Anonymous | reply 116 | October 23, 2023 2:28 PM
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Was the masturbating frau also in Midnight Mass as the evil bitch true believer? I thought she looked familiar but couldn't place her.
by Anonymous | reply 117 | October 23, 2023 3:25 PM
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I got through about 4 episodes and realized I just didn't care if I finished or not.
by Anonymous | reply 118 | October 23, 2023 3:30 PM
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Samantha Sloyan also played Bev in Midnight Mass. Her beefy husband in this is the same guy who played Sturge the town drunk.
by Anonymous | reply 119 | October 23, 2023 3:35 PM
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Thought she looked familiar.
by Anonymous | reply 120 | October 23, 2023 3:44 PM
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Just finished it and came here to see what everyone thought. Loved Carla Gugino, but I love her in everything I see her in. Mark Hamill was a a nice change of pace.
Surprised to learn Frank Langella was originally cast as Roderick. He’d have been too old to fit the timeline of the main characters (and to play Mary McDonnell’s twin).
Overall enjoyable watch for Halloween season. And Poe is always great source material.
by Anonymous | reply 121 | October 24, 2023 2:53 AM
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R115 Sauriyan Sapkota played Prospero and he was also in another of Mike Flanagan’s shows- The Midnight Club. He was easily the best of the young adult actors in that show. I found that to be a hard watch- so so much talking, but maybe worth a watch.
Other Midnight Club actors in House of Usher- Zach Gilford, the guy who played fitness Bill, the lady who played his wife (she will always be crazy Bev from Midnight Mass to me), the cute twink who played the one sister’s male sex assistant, the girl who played the female sex assistant, the lady that played Roderick’s first wife Annabelle, and the Irish girl who played the stepmom. Flanagan does love to reuse actors.
Many of them were in Midnight Mass as well.
by Anonymous | reply 122 | October 24, 2023 3:16 AM
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Samantha Sloyan is the VIP in Midnight Mass. Barley recognized her in this.
Phosphorus was hard to look at and the most worthy of getting muderized. I imagine his character accurately represents the complete and utter uselessness of his generation.
by Anonymous | reply 123 | October 24, 2023 12:52 PM
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Just finished this show. It was well done. Who was Verna supposed to be, death? Or God? A demon?
Question: WHY was it necessary for Roderick Usher to kill and mutilate his sister? What was that all about? Didn't seem to synch with any part of the overall story or theme. Was he just getting revenge on her for making him commit suicide? Why kill her AND mutilate the body by taking the eyes out and shoving rocks in them? So weird.
As the series went on, I began to have a passive dislike of Auggie. He was sanctimonious, showed zero sympathy for Usher even though Usher was generally a terrible guy, which they didn't do a good job of showing. We only know that he headed a company that sold a Oxycontin type of drug but he didn't seem necessarily "evil" in the traditional sense, just greed fueled. How many times did Auggie mention going home to his husband and family? Okay, cool, you're going home to your husband and family, at least show a minuscule amount of empathy. Oh, and I wanted to see the husband!
by Anonymous | reply 124 | October 24, 2023 1:27 PM
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If T'nia Miller is going to keep popping-up in various cable shows, can she at least get her damned teeth fixed already? She's odd looking enough. I felt she was horribly miscast in this show. Yeah, Roderick fucked lots of various women of varying races, whatever. It wasn't about her being black. But she seemed maybe too old for the part, looking not younger or much younger than the guy playing her father. There was nothing about her that seemed like a "brilliant surgeon" and zero chemistry with the girlfriend character. She was just bland and felt shoe-horned into the series.
The woman playing Verna is so, so pretty and I could listen to her speak for hours. She'd probably help me sleep. Maybe she should do some of those ASMR things. ;-)
by Anonymous | reply 125 | October 24, 2023 1:46 PM
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I still can't figure out why Lenore was killed by Verna and why her death was painless. Just because she was an Usher? She was the only decent one besides Juno. Maybe that's why Verna killed her quickly and mercifully.
by Anonymous | reply 126 | October 24, 2023 4:37 PM
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I'm trying not to be condescending, R126, but really?
by Anonymous | reply 127 | October 24, 2023 4:43 PM
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Cut me some slack R127. I was a bit tipsy as I was drinking wine and cooking. I could watch it again but it wasn't that great. I would have preferred a period piece like Chapelwaite.
by Anonymous | reply 128 | October 24, 2023 4:48 PM
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R126 yes. The entire line of Usher had to go. And, she didn't deserve it, she was a good person. Thus why Verna said what she did and made it painless.
by Anonymous | reply 129 | October 24, 2023 4:50 PM
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R126 - The Usher twins made a deal with the 'devil'. They wanted and could live a life of opulence, power, wealth and immunity from the law for as long as they naturally lived. But, then they died, everyone in their blood line died with them or before them. They bargained away the fates of their children and grandchildren that they didn't even have at the time they struck the deal, which was really their one true evil; living off the credit of their otherwise innocent offspring. So Ms. Verna, whatever or whomever the hell she was, devil or dark angel, held them to it and apparently, from the way she spoke near the end, she couldn't alter that arrangement. She had to kill the girl because she was a direct descendant of one of the two Ushers. They had to keep their side, and Verna had to keep her side, no if's, and's or but's about it.
by Anonymous | reply 132 | October 24, 2023 5:08 PM
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I took Verna as a sort of Angel of Death but also a demon in that she struck bargains with people.
by Anonymous | reply 133 | October 24, 2023 5:08 PM
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R133, she apparently only struck bargains with bad people. I guess that's why she picked the Ushers; they had just hoodwinked the young Auggie and killed the boss man in a particularly cruel way, (which I don't really understand. Couldn't they have poisoned him?).
by Anonymous | reply 134 | October 24, 2023 5:10 PM
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Her deal with Trump has come due! 😆
by Anonymous | reply 135 | October 24, 2023 5:10 PM
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They did poison him. They put cyanide in the wine he drank, so at most he’d live an hour bricked up in the wall.
I was glad for that, making him live a day or two in there is unnecessarily cruel.
by Anonymous | reply 136 | October 24, 2023 5:11 PM
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R134 that's because of the Poe references. It's based on the Cask of Amontillado, a Poe short story. The deaths are based on Poe stories.
by Anonymous | reply 137 | October 24, 2023 5:14 PM
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There’s a reason Carla Gugino never became a big star after being given so many opportunities over a long period of time. Doesn’t have the It Factor. Good actress but that’s not enough.
by Anonymous | reply 138 | October 24, 2023 5:14 PM
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I actually don't think she gives a shit R138. She's had a solid career. Not everyone needs to be a big STAH, most of whom cant act anyway. Looking at you, Tammy Cruise.
She's gorgeous and a good actress.
by Anonymous | reply 139 | October 24, 2023 5:20 PM
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R138 I disagree. She's incredibly beautiful, with a great voice, and is good in everything I've seen her in. Maybe she had some morals, or eschewed the casting couch 'back when.'
I saw her in person at a boutique on Melrose back in the aughts- she is tiny and gorgeous.
by Anonymous | reply 140 | October 24, 2023 5:26 PM
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Welcome to DL, Carla Gugino’s agents/R139 and R140 !
by Anonymous | reply 141 | October 26, 2023 8:27 PM
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I'm almost done with this season and I must say, Carl Lumbly has a VERY annoying presence and accent. I've never seen him in a role with this much screentime and it's brutal.
by Anonymous | reply 143 | October 27, 2023 10:41 AM
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The actor playing the ICU doctor in the fifth episode, Ryan Mah, is a cute daddy. However, he either flubbed the line or the error was in the script originally – it's row, not road. You don't hoe a road, whore.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 144 | October 27, 2023 2:40 PM
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Just finished this. Really enjoyed it even though it got a bit too preachy at the end (we get it - opioids are bad).
Love Gugino. Found her scene at the end with Lenore quite touching.
Really enjoy how we get a new series from Flanagan every Halloween. He’s much better than Ryan Murphy and AHS at this point.
by Anonymous | reply 145 | October 31, 2023 9:45 PM
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I liked it. Some extremely memorable scenes and good monologs
by Anonymous | reply 146 | November 10, 2023 1:02 AM
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In the final episode, it appeared that Verna was also like a crossroads demon - she fulfills your wish and comes for your soul and/or some other bargaining chip. I enjoyed the series a lot... not as much as The Haunting of Hill House or Haunting of Bly Manor or Midnight Mass, but it was very entertaining. I give an extra point for including Pink Floyd "The Wall" in this last episode.
by Anonymous | reply 147 | November 10, 2023 2:27 AM
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Who's more obsessed with lesbians, Mike Flanagan or Olivier Assayas?
by Anonymous | reply 148 | December 4, 2023 8:05 PM
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Mike Flanagan is married to Kate Siegal who is openly bisexual.
by Anonymous | reply 149 | December 4, 2023 8:12 PM
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That's probably why he married her. And cause she resembles Carla Gugino
by Anonymous | reply 150 | December 4, 2023 8:14 PM
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[quote]The actor playing the ICU doctor in the fifth episode, Ryan Mah, is a cute daddy. However, he either flubbed the line or the error was in the script originally – it's row, not road. You don't hoe a road, whore.
I missed this and don’t feel like looking back through the episode to find it, but is that a meme you found online or created after you heard “road to hoe”? For most Americans, we don’t make a very hard “D” sound at the end of our words (so “road” instead of “road(uh)”). With the next word starting with a t, I’m sitting here saying “road to hoe” and “row to hoe” out loud and repeatedly and they sound the same to me. We tend not to enunciate that jump from a word that ends in a d and the next word that starts with a t. We kinda drop the d. And if you don’t, it sounds a bit weird (or I guess you could hit the D, take a dramatic pause, look around suspiciously, then continue with “to hoe”. Otherwise, they just really sound the same).
by Anonymous | reply 151 | December 4, 2023 9:33 PM
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So the guy demolished the entire apartment with a hammer and no noise complaints by the neighbors, no police calls? And that CGI cat was terrible.
by Anonymous | reply 152 | December 7, 2023 10:02 PM
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When you're rich you can do anything. Grab them by the pussy
by Anonymous | reply 153 | December 8, 2023 8:02 AM
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