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Have You Spent Any Time in Madison, WI?

I ask because I just spent 1.5 weeks there on a work assignment and was very taken with the city. Because of the University, there is a very diverse population and, possibly because of that, a large number of excellent restaurants with a plethora of ethnic dishes.

The setting is absolutely gorgeous, surrounded by lakes, with the city center on an isthmus that runs through the downtown area. Many clubs and entertainment venues bring a lot of quality music. Not to mention full-blown symphony, opera and ballet companies.

Parks galore and a large number of bike paths.

All in all, one of the nicest cities I've ever been to. I want to take my partner for a visit and see what he thinks. I think I would like to live there.

(And, yes, I know the winters are extreme, but we could live with that.)

Any feedback from DL'ers?

by Anonymousreply 50September 12, 2023 3:23 PM

I was born, raised, schooled (UW Madison) there. Can’t think of a better place to grow up in and come out in (during the early 70s). Unfortunately when I finished college, employment opportunities were limited; pick city or state civil service (as my parents did), or the university. That has so changed, Epic Medical Systems is based in nearby Verona, and provided great opportunities. It has revitalized downtown Madison. Although I left in 1976, I always look forward to return trips for family events (nowadays mostly funerals, unfortunately). OP I’m happy to hear you recognized all the great things about relatively small US city. Interesting factoid; in the late 1940s, LIFE magazine voted it the best place to live in the US.

by Anonymousreply 1September 10, 2023 1:13 AM

And it's not too far to Genoa City!

by Anonymousreply 2September 10, 2023 1:14 AM

Visit again in winter.

by Anonymousreply 3September 10, 2023 1:15 AM

Went to UW-Madison from 2000-2004. Loved it there.

by Anonymousreply 4September 10, 2023 1:16 AM

Yes I wish I could live there.

by Anonymousreply 5September 10, 2023 2:08 AM

I was recently in Milwaukee but I've never been to Madison. I did recently buy some shrooms and suck a guy off though that was moving there. One of his balls was super hard almost like it was a marble and I was really curious about it but I didn't want to ask her make him feel weird about it.

by Anonymousreply 6September 10, 2023 2:11 AM

Madison is beautiful.

by Anonymousreply 7September 10, 2023 2:12 AM

Sounds like a place where anyone over 30 would be made to feel old.

by Anonymousreply 8September 10, 2023 2:21 AM

Does county lockup count? Then yes, a short stint.

by Anonymousreply 9September 10, 2023 2:27 AM

Yup I pulled a Jeffrey Dahmer!

by Anonymousreply 10September 10, 2023 3:02 AM

R6 cancer

by Anonymousreply 11September 10, 2023 3:02 AM

OP, where did you stay in Madison?

by Anonymousreply 12September 10, 2023 3:11 AM

Yes, my dad took there every fall to camp and fish. It's beautiful.

by Anonymousreply 13September 10, 2023 3:16 AM

Shame about the state gov’t.

by Anonymousreply 14September 10, 2023 3:27 AM

How were the bridges?

by Anonymousreply 15September 10, 2023 3:38 AM

I haven't thought of that movie in so long. ☝️

by Anonymousreply 16September 10, 2023 4:15 AM

I lived there for several years, OP. I'd like to offer what I think is a fair assessment.

The pros: - It is a lovely city. There's a lot going for it. For a city of its size, it has a magnificent cultural palette and an amazing food scene. State Street and the Square alone are host to a number of cuisines, and there are other pockets through the area that are equally as good. In one block you can find Greek, Asian and Himalayan! - It does have some level of diversity IF you are part of the university community. - There is a relatively active gay/lesbian community there, and a pretty cohesive one. Madison in particular is a LEZ paradise. There's data out there that the highest per capita lesbian population, per zip code, is in the Williamson Street (locally known as Willy Street) area of Madison. - The LGBTQ+ magazine "Our Lives" is one of the best I've read anywhere, quite something for a town of its size. - You'd be hard pressed to find an area with such a wide array of beautiful outdoor spaces, the lakes and Arboretum among them. - Great cultural amenities - the newly renovated main library, the Overture Center, etc. - The Dane County Farmers Market - always a joy. - It remains remarkably affordable and it's possible to buy a condo or house still (though prices are higher than they used to be). - I lived near the university and for the first few years - when I was still enjoying my youth, shall we say - hooking up with hot beefy farmboys was like shooting fish in a barrel. It was GLORIOUS.

The cons: - Outside of the university, there is a sense of provincialism. People are "Midwestern nice" but if you didn't go to Such and Such High School with Mitch Hoopenschoocher in 1978 then it can be really hard to have more than a passing acquaintance with people and make new friends. - Because of that, it can be a terrible place to be a single gay man, if you're seeking a relationship/husband, etc. because a new person is seen very much as an outsider. (And also.....some of the local guys are very much mama's boys, or lived with Mother until they inherited her house at 50, etc.) - Despite looking like a very diverse place on paper, lots of locals are pretty racist and also very sexist...it shocked me how many middle aged men sit on State Street to watch young women walk by. (They're usually nice to gays. Usually.) - As with many cities, go 20 miles outside city limits and you're in Let's Go Brandon territory. (Kenosha isn't that far away....nor is Waukesha, another racist paradise.) - While things are better than in R1's days there still is somewhat of a cap for salaries, and a limited scope of jobs, again, unless you are involved with the university. It's much easier for companies in Milwaukee, Minneapolis or Chicago to attract talent with higher wages and benefits. - The winters. You can't fully appreciate how fucking COLD it can be. I will say it was never 4-5 months of arctic weather in any of the years I was there, but February is just snow and relentless wind and even though it's only 28 days in a month it feels like it lasts fucking FOREVER. - What R14 said. While things are looking up with the governor's office and the new state supreme court makeup, it has been a terrible mess at the state level for 20 years. Lots of MAGA types. It was a state that shot down gay marriage and banned it in the constitution (the main reason I left). The nefarious Wisconsin Manufacturers & Commerce (WMC) is involved with lots of dark money.

I would consider returning or renting for the summer now that I'm partnered. ("I said I's married now!") It is really nice, on so many levels. Not sure a full time return would be right for me but I can see why so many love it.

PS: Students keep things fresh and vibrant but unless you're into being in a 24/7 party scene, avoid living downtown, near campus or in the very near East side area, where student housing is concentrated.

by Anonymousreply 17September 10, 2023 4:48 AM

sorry about the formatting.

by Anonymousreply 18September 10, 2023 4:48 AM

I visited back in the 2000s and was impressed that it had a pretty decent Middle Eastern restaurant/hookah bar. Booze was plentiful and cheaper than I've ever encountered anywhere I've vacationed.

I also love the House on the Rock and got to spend a day in it with fellow Neil Gaiman fans.

by Anonymousreply 19September 10, 2023 8:38 AM

Very pleasant and livable city. But those lakes don't fully thaw until May.

by Anonymousreply 20September 10, 2023 8:57 AM

Our Lives, the news site mentioned at R17.

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by Anonymousreply 21September 10, 2023 2:07 PM

R6 and R11 he had testicular cancer. They removed one of his balls and replaced it with a prosthetic

by Anonymousreply 22September 10, 2023 2:24 PM

R22 I figured it had to be something like that I just never encountered it to my knowledge.

by Anonymousreply 23September 10, 2023 2:26 PM

Chasten Live!

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by Anonymousreply 24September 10, 2023 2:34 PM

R6 Was his name Eric? Was he a ginger?

by Anonymousreply 25September 10, 2023 2:34 PM

Oh my god—yes!

by Anonymousreply 26September 10, 2023 2:41 PM

Madison is not diverse, unless you're Left, a neighbor is farther Left, and guy down the street is farther Progressive. Madison is "Democrat Center" in Wisconsin. Real diversity is beyond the city limits.

by Anonymousreply 27September 10, 2023 3:01 PM

Cowpatch Cambridge

by Anonymousreply 28September 10, 2023 3:06 PM

I consider it more of a nice college town than a real city, but I guess it depends on what you are used to. The entire metro area only has what, around 600k people.

by Anonymousreply 29September 10, 2023 3:09 PM

How in the hell did a blue state like Wisconsin vote in Street Walker and his cronies?

by Anonymousreply 30September 10, 2023 7:55 PM

[quote] How in the hell did a blue state like Wisconsin vote in Street Walker and his cronies?

Wisconsin went far right at the state level - it started around 20 years ago. Dark money forces in Wisconsin started really setting up camp there in the late 90s.

While it had a progressive history, a lot of the northern Wisconsin areas went red and so did the southeastern part - Kenosha/Racine and Waukesha, former middle class industrial places like that have all gone Trumpy as have huge swaths of MI/PA/OH.

by Anonymousreply 31September 10, 2023 7:59 PM

Wisconsin is the definition of a swing state, not a blue state r30. Elections tend to be extremely close in Wisconsin.

2000, 2004, 2016, and 2020 were very tight contest. Obama was able to win the state easily, but that is Obama.

by Anonymousreply 32September 10, 2023 8:05 PM

Seriously, look into WMC and learn....

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by Anonymousreply 33September 10, 2023 9:47 PM
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by Anonymousreply 34September 10, 2023 9:48 PM

Madishon, Wishconshin!

by Anonymousreply 35September 10, 2023 9:50 PM

I grew up in a small town just north of Madison. I moved out West after college, so I haven't lived there in quite some time, but my whole family is still there, so I'm back at least once a year. As others have mentioned, Madison has developed a fantastic food scene. One of my high school friends lives in Madison, and there are always great restaurants and bars to explore when I visit.

Wisconsin is underappreciated in terms of its natural assets. There are many beautiful areas to explore all around the state, and plenty in the larger Madison region. I think that the state is lacking a signature landmark like the Grand Canyon to call attention to what it has to offer, although the Great Lakes shorelines come close. Door County alone (the thumb of the state) is worth a vacation.

by Anonymousreply 36September 10, 2023 10:09 PM

I’m spending some time in Rochester MN right now

by Anonymousreply 37September 10, 2023 10:12 PM

What’s the deal with buying liquor late at night? The store locks up the beer by like 10 o clock. I though Wisconsinites like to drink what gives?

by Anonymousreply 38September 10, 2023 10:19 PM

My lease is up in two weeks. I'm im Chicago and I'm thinking of either moving to Fun du Loc, Wisconsin or Peoria Illinois. This post makes me think about Madison. I'm tired of city life and will never leave the Midwest. Love the changes of the seasons, the people, and don't mind the winter.

by Anonymousreply 39September 10, 2023 10:23 PM

Fond du Lac is a dire little town. Try Madison or one of its surrounding towns like Monona, R39.

by Anonymousreply 40September 11, 2023 4:28 AM

The 9:00 closing time is because the Tavern League has such a hold on the Repub legislature (bought). Tavern League wants you to stay in the bars until 2:00 am and then what? Drive home drunk? The Tavern League is also the reason why every state except Iowa has legalized marijuana. Their lobby has complete control over the legislature.

by Anonymousreply 41September 11, 2023 4:47 AM

There is one major drawback for me and many others (I know because this is an observation that has been made many times by people like me who also don't want to drive in Madison) and I do write this as someone who learned to love Madison, WI.

It's this-

When it comes to driving in Madison, especially near the Capital Square, State Street and the campus, you have to been born in Madison and lived there all your life to have figured out the grid of one-way streets, even one-way blocks, and street names that suddenly change.

In my 3 years of living there I joined the ranks of many who hate driving there.

One time, I was driving somewhere right near the Capitol square and it took me four times circling a block before I finally figured out how to get out off of it. Hell, I'd still be circling now if I hadn't finally just picked a street and turned on to it.

by Anonymousreply 42September 11, 2023 5:09 AM

Do you also hate roundabouts, R42?

by Anonymousreply 43September 11, 2023 5:20 AM

I’ve been several times to go to Epic which is outside of Madison. But I stayed in Madison. It’s cute. I really liked it. I mainly went during the spring and summer so the weather was nice and I don’t know if I’d like the winter (but their winter can’t really be much worse than where I already am).

I also was coming from a SUPER dry climate and for the first couple days, the humidity was so overwhelming that I just felt like I and everything I touched was damp!

(And I liked it!)

by Anonymousreply 44September 11, 2023 5:21 AM

No, they’re just yields.

by Anonymousreply 45September 11, 2023 5:21 AM

No, r43, they’re just yields.

by Anonymousreply 46September 11, 2023 5:22 AM

I’m grinning at your question, r43.

You’re just having fun with me.

by Anonymousreply 47September 11, 2023 5:25 AM

What R42 says is true but it's really not super terrible. You just have to learn it.

Because the Square is....well, a square, there's another ring around the square (that's more rectangular/oval). I never thought it was terrible to cope with but there are some one way loops and side streets.

by Anonymousreply 48September 11, 2023 1:00 PM

Get well soon, R37.

by Anonymousreply 49September 11, 2023 2:33 PM

Madishon, Wishconshin

by Anonymousreply 50September 12, 2023 3:23 PM
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