Gay guys and Bi men compare their experiences with vaginas on reddit

[quote] It seems like most of the census was

Oh dear.

Really? Admittedly I didn't read all of the thread but the comments I read were saying that vag sucks.

I'm surprised at the number of men in that thread that love the FTMs because they get men with a pussy.

R2 The majority of the men in the thread said that vaginal feels great.

[quote]The majority of the men in the thread said that vaginal feels great.

OK, but you said it yourself - vaginas have been designed for intercourse so that makes sense from a purely physical point of view. BUT most sex is mental/psychological, so gay men aren't going to be attracted to women regardless. I only read the top comments and they were by gay men saying that they were disgusted and one even said he threw up. I don't know why you have to feel so threatened by it.

I thought this comment posted on that discussion thread to be quite interating-

A transman with a vagina will find it easier to attract sexual partners than transman with a neopenis. Neopenises look and feel horrendous - they simply aren't real penises; current surgery and technology is not that advanced. They'll turn the vast majority of people off, possibly limiting your future sexual partners to other transmen only.

With a vagina you're highly desirable to bisexuals who'll love your manliness and pussy (honestly best of both worlds).

Any transman with neopenises telling you it was a good decision are lying to you.

A ton of gay men like dick and giving BJs so I think those men probably just have a specific trans fetish.

Can you still fuck a trans man with a neopenis?

Also, aren't vaginas far less tight after childbirth, which straight British men say is 'like watching your favourite pub burn down".

Genuine questions here, not taking the piss.

[quote]Also, aren't vaginas far less tight after childbirth, which straight British men say is 'like watching your favourite pub burn down".

A google search tells me only for women who have recently given birth - they are advised to not have sex for 6 weeks after - but the vagina should rebound.

[quote]Can you still fuck a trans man with a neopenis?

Penetrative sex, no, and it can't get erect (you need further surgery for that). So I don't think those men are into dick, or at least normal dick. It seems like a trans fetish to me.

I think that the thread made me think about the nature of homosexual sex and homosexuality.  I am also bothered by the theme of    “I only settle for men cause I think women are too much work and gay guys are easy sex”. So basically, homosexuality is just second best to heterosexuality. What's the point of being with a man?  I also tend to be self-loathing so the thread made me depressed.

I think gay men focus way too much on sex, r11. Part of its biology, but I also think part of it is arrested development. I sometimes feel like my more moderate interest in sex is a revolutionary act.

Try overlapping bisexual and grey ace. It’s like being open minded and calling everyone on their sleazy bullshit.

That thread made me sick, it's just straight, bi and trans people shitting on real gay men.

R11 You should feel sorry for those men. You get to have what you're really into while they can't get easy sex from women. It seems depressing to be them.

This is what a woman who saw the thread thought:

From what I've heard, this is why a good portion of gay male relationships are messed up as well; gay males tend to be extremely slutty and whorish amongst each other, it tends to be one big homo-orgy. One older guy a few years, he told me that it took him being near his 40s to find a quality partner. And, he was white, and told me options are actually better in his case because they're the preferred type, but that males in general are truly the problem, more so when it comes to commitment and monogamy.

He also admitted to me that quite a few guys don't enjoy being bottoms, due to all the prep that it takes, and that some do take advantage of their furry best friends.

[quote]I'm surprised at the number of men in that thread that love the FTMs because they get men with a pussy.

Reddit has an unusually high number of trans users and moderators, some of whom are more open about it than others. You're far likelier to encounter that sort of sentiment there than elsewhere (in real-life or online).

Good point. I didn't consider that aspect - so a lot of them are probably trans people fucking each other because it's hard to get 'cis' people to fuck them?

is it true that young vaginas are tighter ? old women's vaginas are loose ?

If you read the Bisexualmen and related subreddits, it's mostly guys talking about how they have no attraction to men, only their cocks, and thread after thread of men assuring someone that they're "bisexual but heteroromantic" and would never date or even kiss a man and how repellent the idea is. To me it often sounds less like an real orientation and more like a kink or fetish for disembodied penis.

R15 no. If you have kids the vag canal is looser. No two ways about it. Breastfeeding also ruins your tits. If your don't have kids the vag is still tight and tits also better for longer.