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Who is the Modern Jacqueline Kennedy?

During her time in the public spotlight, she came off as charming, elegant, sophisticated, and intelligent. She had a love of fashion, design, ballet, and opera.

She debated international affairs in fluent French with Charles de Gaulle, quietly yet effectively made clear what she thought of her husbands philandering, lost an infant child, and won an Emmy for her televised White House tour. Nikita Khrushchev even insisted on shaking her hand first.

So, who is the modern Jacqueline Kennedy?

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by Anonymousreply 132September 11, 2023 5:09 AM

ME

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by Anonymousreply 1September 6, 2023 3:50 PM

Melania. Jackie O spent as little time in the White House as possible. Same with Melania who cost the nation and NYC millions by refusing to leave NYC the first month of so of Tump's administration.

Melania, like Jackie married for money and lets her man cheat, as long as the allowance is reloaded every month.

Both women were obsessed with designer clothes and kept to one hairstyle.

Both women would fuck a toad for security. Jackie with Onassis. Melania with Trump and her former Johns.

Both women are obsessed with protecting their sons.

Both sons are dumb as a box of rocks. One flew his plane into a cliff, the other hasn't found his way to fuck up his own privileged life.

Both pushed lies about their families to promote their brand.

Jackie is a better first lady, but she's also an entitled, racist, money hungry bitch. But, she still managed to leave a massive positive mark on the nation, for that I am thankful. Melania is just a common whore.

by Anonymousreply 2September 6, 2023 3:54 PM

It's not "tacky ho" either.. that Saks 5th Ave mall shopper cancer victim Beyotch with the dresses with capes and the fake high hair.

She's a "PROSTITUTION WHORE"!! Florida slut

by Anonymousreply 3September 6, 2023 3:56 PM

R3 Who?

by Anonymousreply 4September 6, 2023 3:59 PM

R4 DeSantis' wife

by Anonymousreply 5September 6, 2023 4:00 PM

I'd say Princess Di in her time was comparable and bigger. But Di's gone.

by Anonymousreply 6September 6, 2023 4:01 PM

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by Anonymousreply 7September 6, 2023 4:02 PM

Yes, she is!

by Anonymousreply 8September 6, 2023 4:02 PM

For Republicans, I would say Nikki Haley.

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by Anonymousreply 9September 6, 2023 4:04 PM

Nikki Haley is a "CUNTY BITCH CURRY LOVIN' DOTHEAD"

RETHUG CUNT

by Anonymousreply 10September 6, 2023 4:07 PM

It’s Michelle of course.

She’s the modern update. She’s a woman of color, successful and professional on her own, charming and witty, a good partner to her husband.

At first you might say there are many differences. But yes our culture has advanced a great deal since 1961. Everything amazing Jackie was in ‘61, Michelle was in ‘11.

I like Jill a lot but she doesn’t have that same feel. She’s kind of a female mensch. Melania was crass, intellectually incurious and purely self-interested. Laura Bush a good person but more of an intellectually-leaning housewife type. Lady Bird in that same category. Hillary a real powerhouse but it’s hard to think of her as a presidents wife — too much a power all her own.

Barbara Bush ew.

by Anonymousreply 11September 6, 2023 4:12 PM

Tell us how you really feel, Phillywhore. Don't hold back now.

by Anonymousreply 12September 6, 2023 4:12 PM

Chasten.

by Anonymousreply 13September 6, 2023 4:28 PM

OP, does anyone trust Nikki Haley, the lying Rethug...Seriously!!!

She's a Rethug, she lies about everything, she has to in order to appeal to the dtrump base.

by Anonymousreply 14September 6, 2023 4:37 PM

[quote] She debated international affairs in fluent French with Charles de Gaulle

In 2016’s Jackie, de Gaulle’s meeting with Jackie is portrayed. In 1979’s Churchill and The Generals, Jacques Boulder portrays de Gaulle and Eric Porter portrays General Sir Alan Brooke.

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by Anonymousreply 15September 6, 2023 4:46 PM

What an odd looking woman.

by Anonymousreply 16September 6, 2023 4:48 PM

Frances McDormand

by Anonymousreply 17September 6, 2023 4:49 PM

One more comment OP, there will never be a "Modern equivalent First Lady like Jacqueline Kennedy" It will never happen again!!

I was born in 1961, my 1st image of Jackie Kennedy on the news and in print was in November,1968 when she married Onassis in his island in Greece. The press attention never stopped until she died.

The only modern equivalent of Jackie Kennedy was Princess Diana, and she died too.

by Anonymousreply 18September 6, 2023 4:52 PM

Time for cocktails; it's 5 o'clock somewhere! *hiccup*

by Anonymousreply 19September 6, 2023 4:58 PM

[quote]It’s Michelle of course.

Why, thank you!

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by Anonymousreply 20September 6, 2023 5:08 PM

She is Jacqueline Kennedy!

by Anonymousreply 21September 6, 2023 5:10 PM

Hillary Clinton.

by Anonymousreply 22September 6, 2023 5:11 PM

R2 = Mamie Eisenhower.

by Anonymousreply 23September 6, 2023 5:16 PM

R2, why do you hate Jacqueline Kennedy?

by Anonymousreply 24September 6, 2023 5:16 PM

There is no “modern” Jacqueline Kennedy. No other First Lady could reach her elegance and class. She was enchanting and gracious. Even Nancy Reagan admired her.

by Anonymousreply 25September 6, 2023 5:23 PM

We've devolved so much that our current equivalents are Kardashians, Trumps, and Real Housewives.

by Anonymousreply 26September 6, 2023 5:42 PM

R19 Laura wasn't an alcoholic. By all accounts, Laura was gracious and kind to everyone. Laura had style too. She was just more of a listener and very bookish.

R11 I probably agree with Michelle. There was a Kennedy-esque energy with them in 2008-2009.

by Anonymousreply 27September 6, 2023 5:46 PM

There isn't one.

by Anonymousreply 28September 6, 2023 6:02 PM

There sure isn't. People are low life hogs now

by Anonymousreply 29September 6, 2023 6:41 PM

Some International doyenne perhaps?

by Anonymousreply 30September 6, 2023 7:00 PM

To R29....a Very True Statement that reflects our social media society!!

The Horror...The Horrow of it all!!

by Anonymousreply 31September 6, 2023 7:23 PM

Lindsay Graham

by Anonymousreply 32September 6, 2023 8:45 PM

Honey Boo-boo

by Anonymousreply 33September 6, 2023 9:10 PM

You have to ask?

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by Anonymousreply 34September 6, 2023 9:37 PM

Everybody calls my wife Tacky O instead of Jackie Oh.

Eh, close enough.

by Anonymousreply 35September 6, 2023 9:58 PM

Who was the 1961 Lizzo?

by Anonymousreply 36September 6, 2023 9:59 PM

No one, OP.

by Anonymousreply 37September 6, 2023 9:59 PM

I still say Kimberly

by Anonymousreply 38September 6, 2023 10:03 PM

Kate Middleton

by Anonymousreply 39September 6, 2023 10:05 PM

R10, Nikki Haley is homophobic trash but you're racist trash, hon.

by Anonymousreply 40September 6, 2023 10:12 PM

She was a gold-digger who didn't care where the gold came from, & Bouvier is French for cow-herder.

by Anonymousreply 41September 6, 2023 10:19 PM

R39 has the answer insofar as there is one.

by Anonymousreply 42September 6, 2023 10:27 PM

R11 has the correct answer.

by Anonymousreply 43September 6, 2023 10:29 PM

No other FLOTUS had ocean liners for feet…

by Anonymousreply 44September 6, 2023 10:59 PM

Definitely Michelle Obama in a 21st century way.

by Anonymousreply 45September 6, 2023 11:00 PM

Dylan Mulvaney

by Anonymousreply 46September 6, 2023 11:02 PM

[quote]Some International doyenne perhaps?

Carla Bruni is the best candidate I can think of.

by Anonymousreply 47September 6, 2023 11:07 PM

R2 - JFK Jr did not fly his plane into a cliff. Also, Jackie was far from stupid.

by Anonymousreply 48September 6, 2023 11:34 PM

Kate Middleton can barely speak without uming and ahing and twirling her hair about her fingers. She’s pretty and doll-like, but has none of Jackie’s sophistication or intellect.

by Anonymousreply 49September 6, 2023 11:35 PM

Beatrice Borromeo Casiraghi

by Anonymousreply 50September 6, 2023 11:40 PM

Moi bien sûr!

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by Anonymousreply 51September 6, 2023 11:43 PM

Gayle King

by Anonymousreply 52September 6, 2023 11:46 PM

Sean Hayes

by Anonymousreply 53September 6, 2023 11:47 PM

Dylan Mulvaney

by Anonymousreply 54September 6, 2023 11:55 PM

You have to live in a royalist bubble to think regular people are obsessed with Kate Middleton at a Jackie Kennedy level. I don't even think that's true in the UK.

Michelle Obama is the closest currently living, but she doesn't have quite the same level of fascination from the general public as JBK did. She lacks the drama and tragedy, with a still-living husband who by all credible accounts is faithful. She's also polarizing (unfairly) because her husband is polarizing (also unfairly). It's hard to impose these Camelot-era notions of female celebrity in these divisive times. But Michelle O. comes close to JBK in this regard.

Diana was another one who came close in her day, because she had an iconic style, but also this veneer of tragedy about her once the truth of her marriage came spilling out. She elicited sympathy for that from the general public that was reminiscent of JBK post-JFK's murder, even as she was playing for the cameras and manipulating the press.

Melania, like it or not, embodies this for the MAGA crowd, but only really for the most committed and most stupid of that lot. She's fascist trash and a literal whore. Jackie played the game and always knew the score and where the goalposts were; "courtesan" is not incorrect to describe her. But a common prostitute? Nude photos? Never!

by Anonymousreply 55September 6, 2023 11:58 PM

Gayle king for the win

by Anonymousreply 56September 6, 2023 11:59 PM

OP sure is committed to proliferating her threads on such interesting topics.

Glad to have a life.

by Anonymousreply 57September 7, 2023 12:00 AM

I submit to you for consideration the OP of this thread:

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by Anonymousreply 58September 7, 2023 12:03 AM

Michelle Obama has the fashion sense of a truck driver.

by Anonymousreply 59September 7, 2023 12:10 AM

One would think it would be her daughter Caroline, but it is not.

by Anonymousreply 60September 7, 2023 12:13 AM

R69, like um, I know.

by Anonymousreply 61September 7, 2023 1:31 AM

Kim Kardashian

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by Anonymousreply 62September 7, 2023 1:47 AM

Moi, DUH

by Anonymousreply 63September 7, 2023 1:57 AM

No one.

People don't aspire to that type of graciousness or elegance anymore.

by Anonymousreply 64September 7, 2023 1:59 AM

Everyone's forgetting that Ethel Kennedy is still living. She took over the mantle from Jackie O.

by Anonymousreply 65September 7, 2023 2:04 AM

Haha. No, R65. She picks her nose.

by Anonymousreply 66September 7, 2023 2:12 AM

R65, 95 year old Ethel has not been seen in public since her granddaughter’s funeral in 2019.

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by Anonymousreply 67September 7, 2023 2:14 AM

Her eyes are so far apart they’re almost on the sides of her head.

by Anonymousreply 68September 7, 2023 2:31 AM

^ Go back to hell Joanie you old cunt.

by Anonymousreply 69September 7, 2023 2:38 AM

Meghan Markle

She is stylish elegant, refined, and married Royalty

by Anonymousreply 70September 7, 2023 2:40 AM

Brusilla

by Anonymousreply 71September 7, 2023 2:42 AM

The media had such high hopes for Shelly Obama. They even dubbed her “Blackie O.” following the smashing series of gowns at the inaugural ball. Now her fashion dolls are a dime a dozen on the eBay.

by Anonymousreply 72September 7, 2023 2:47 AM

Kate Middleton. Times have changed and being interested in opera, arts, architecture, fashion would make her seem out of touch and pretentious.

She is glamorous but she pioneered the trend of wearing the same dresses over and over again and not buying every new trend. She is fashionable but not a clothes horse. She was even criticized for not being “into diamonds and jewelry “ LOL… she wears Zara earrings, no problem. If she wears a priceless tiara, it’s for a purpose and you can tell she is not getting a snobby high off it

She is classy in the true sense — she has the world in her palm but she never hogs the spotlight. She’s discreet even in front of a pack of 50 thirsty photographers

Unlike so many other royals and world celebrities, she puts her kids first. Doesn’t name them crazy names for attention. Doesn’t put them in “fashion” clothes to draw more attention. She seems to actually spend time with them and have bonds with them, which is why they seem well-adjusted and show some self control in public despite being so young

She doesn’t blab about herself and her problems… to anyone… ever… at any time.

People are genuinely wild about her. She got a spontaneous standing ovation at Wimbledon. Federer looked like he has died and gone to heaven just talking to her.

She’s actually very sexy and beautiful, but she plays it down by wearing covered up clothing and keeping her hair and make up classic. Only her high heels give it away— the woman has the body of a Bond girl !

And lastly, she has secret talents no one knows about like she can play the piano, she’s a pretty skilled photographer and I wouldn’t be surprised if she learns to paint or draw very proficiently

I like it that she doesn’t talk either. Talking is over rated!!!

by Anonymousreply 73September 7, 2023 3:15 AM

R73 is a moron

by Anonymousreply 74September 7, 2023 3:19 AM

So, Kimberly?

by Anonymousreply 75September 7, 2023 3:22 AM

I agree qith r74, r73 is another delusional Klan Granny. Only those fools would pretend Kate Middleton is fashionable, interesting, or beloved outside of that rainy island. No one has ever been dazzled by Kate Middleton, the way world leaders and their media were enthralled with Jackie O. Kate never even acts like she has a thought in her mind. Jackie always came off as well read and able to hold a conversation with presidents, ladies who lunch, give a little speech, and act like a grand hostest.

Kate's job isn't to be smart, interesting, or worldly, so her shortcomings are okay.

Give the downfall of society, I'm actually intrigued by the idea of Kim K, if we are leaving alone actual First Ladies. She's captured a segment of this nation and commands attention wherever she goes. Like the corrupted or poisoned apple version of Jackie O. But if keeping to OP's theme, I'd probably go with Mrs. Obama.

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by Anonymousreply 76September 7, 2023 3:32 AM

Kim K comes close

by Anonymousreply 77September 7, 2023 3:35 AM

To R77, You need to check urself b4 u wreck urself!! Just STOP Please!!

Do not go there with that fake plastic Armenian hairy trash, no one believes she fucked Miss KanGAYE!!

by Anonymousreply 78September 7, 2023 3:40 AM

Kellyanne Conway

by Anonymousreply 79September 7, 2023 3:43 AM

[quote] act like a grand hostest

by Anonymousreply 80September 7, 2023 3:52 AM

Brendad Ickson

by Anonymousreply 81September 7, 2023 4:01 AM

R2, isn’t it the prevailing view now that the marriage to Onassis was a mere one of convenience for both & that the couple never actually consummated their union?

by Anonymousreply 82September 7, 2023 4:13 AM
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by Anonymousreply 83September 7, 2023 4:18 AM

That’s J. Randy Taraborrelli’s conclusion, R82, in his most recent biography, Jackie: Public, Private, Secret.

by Anonymousreply 84September 7, 2023 4:23 AM

R84 Jackie was a great beauty, if you're into hammerhead sharks.

by Anonymousreply 85September 7, 2023 4:26 AM

Sadly kids, the answer IS Kim Kardashian. In a meta sense.

by Anonymousreply 86September 7, 2023 10:29 AM

[quote]The media had such high hopes for Shelly Obama. They even dubbed her “Blackie O.” following the smashing series of gowns at the inaugural ball.

WTF are you babbling about?

by Anonymousreply 87September 7, 2023 10:49 AM

R73 nicely demonstrates the extreme delusions of the average royal fan. "She PIONEERED wearing clothes more than once!" Oh did she now? Shall we hold a candlelight vigil in her honor on laundry day, you fucking moron? "She plays piano and takes pretty pictures!" So does my 12 year old niece!

by Anonymousreply 88September 7, 2023 10:53 AM

R87, I believe it was Joan Rivers who came up with “Blackie O”.

by Anonymousreply 89September 7, 2023 11:06 AM

Yes, R89, it was only Joan; not the "media."

by Anonymousreply 90September 7, 2023 1:11 PM

Kate Middleton, Princess of Wales…

GOODBYE, my dear and GOOD LUCK!

by Anonymousreply 91September 7, 2023 1:37 PM

Michelle Obama is kind of in a league of her own. I just can’t recall a First Lady as smart and KIND as she is. Hilary was smart but so politically ambitious. Michelle seems genuinely ego-less. But she made fashion waves in her own way. People were obsessed with the fact that she was wearing J. Crew. The designers of her gowns became celebrities because she wore them.

My grandmother’s best friend went to (I believe) boarding school with Jackie O. She said she was very nice and liked horses, but she really wasn’t very smart. That was her school age opinion of Jackie. She was nice, but she was a horse girl.

by Anonymousreply 92September 7, 2023 1:44 PM

[quote] She was nice, but she was a horse girl.

Hay! I resemble that remark.

by Anonymousreply 93September 7, 2023 1:47 PM

So do I.

by Anonymousreply 94September 7, 2023 1:50 PM

She definitely was not the beauty queen people made her out to be. Wildly imperfect features.

by Anonymousreply 95September 7, 2023 2:05 PM

[quote]Michelle Obama is kind of in a league of her own.

So was JBK. In that regard they are in the same league, but I also feel like they're unique enough from each other that you can say they're on a different level (well above everyone else) even if they're in "different leagues."

by Anonymousreply 96September 7, 2023 2:07 PM

R95, And yet, somehow everything came together.

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by Anonymousreply 97September 7, 2023 2:09 PM

Queen Letizia of Spain is the only one that even comes close. It's about style and then add a little mystery and hidden intelligence.

by Anonymousreply 98September 7, 2023 2:15 PM

R96, I agree with you and I was trying to say that it’s really hard to compare anyone to Jackie, but Michelle is so unique in her own right. She’s so incredibly smart and accomplished, every bit as much as Hillary, but also so incredibly kind and seems approachable. The conservatives and racists REALLY wanted to paint her with the Angry Black Woman negative stereotype and she just would not oblige them. That must have made them so mad!! 🤣

The Obama’s came across as so down to earth that they made the Clintons, a couple from Arkansas(!), seem like they came from the high society circle. I mean, the way they both were so protective of their girls, having her mother live with them because she knew she was going to have lots of responsibilities as a First Lady (and let’s face it. First Ladies have their own office and staff and it’s probably one of the hardest unpaid jobs in the world) and she wanted her mom there so the girls were never left alone without any family.

She grew organic vegetable gardens at the White House. Melania tore them down and put up tennis courts!!

I lived in DC during the Obama years and I don’t really know how much about her made the news or was just local interest, but people were OBSESSED with where she went to dinner and if she went someplace, first, she went with Secret Service (obviously) but they didn’t clear the places. She was just one of many people there at that time. But then wherever she went, whether it was a very expensive restaurant or a small restaurant on 14th st, became THE place to go after she was there. She must have been so good for business to so many places in DC! She went to a Target in a baseball cap and blue jeans and it made the news and everyone was like “wait. Can she DO that??” Apparently yes! If she wanted to go to Target, she went to Target with as little fanfare as possible.

I can’t imagine Jackie O at a Target if they had been around in her time. Or wearing J. Crew.

So totally unique in their own ways, but both extremely popular (at least among their husband’s political party).

by Anonymousreply 99September 7, 2023 2:36 PM

Maybe they shouldn’t have been so protective of Sasha and Malia because now they are looking somewhat raggedy.

by Anonymousreply 100September 7, 2023 3:02 PM

In hindsight, the Clintons were sleaze. But not as sleazy as the Trump KKKlan.

by Anonymousreply 101September 7, 2023 3:53 PM

R99, You really compare the two. Jackie became FLOTUS in 1961, Michelle in 2009.

That’s a fifty year/three generation span.

by Anonymousreply 102September 7, 2023 4:11 PM

Jacqueline loved sugar daddies:

John Kennedy

Aristotle Onassis

Maurice Tempelsman

by Anonymousreply 103September 7, 2023 6:17 PM

The correct answer is Frankie Grande

by Anonymousreply 104September 7, 2023 7:59 PM

There isn’t one.

by Anonymousreply 105September 7, 2023 8:38 PM

[quote][R99], You really compare the two. Jackie became FLOTUS in 1961, Michelle in 2009.

Is there a missing “can’t” in there? I do agree with you on that. They really can’t be compared on most things but they both had class and dignity to spare and that’s something they had in common. Who knows what people would think of Jackie if she she were the 1960’s version of herself in 2009? She might have come accords very differently to people.

by Anonymousreply 106September 7, 2023 10:09 PM

[quote]Who is the Modern Jacqueline Kennedy?

Billy Porter

by Anonymousreply 107September 7, 2023 10:11 PM

Jennifer Aniston.

by Anonymousreply 108September 7, 2023 10:29 PM

Actresses don't count.

A political wife who is the modern day Jackie?

There isn't one.

by Anonymousreply 109September 7, 2023 10:36 PM

That old hag who groomed Macorn.

by Anonymousreply 110September 7, 2023 10:39 PM

Have any of these people been on assistance?

by Anonymousreply 111September 7, 2023 10:41 PM

Countess Vaughn

by Anonymousreply 112September 7, 2023 11:01 PM

Why would we need a successor to a gold digging courtesan?

Oh, wait. We have reality television. Pick a whore.

by Anonymousreply 113September 8, 2023 1:23 AM

[quote] "I'd say Princess Di in her time was comparable and bigger. But Di's gone."

I agree, R6. Diana > Jackie by at least half a solar system.

by Anonymousreply 114September 8, 2023 1:33 AM

Diana was never bigger than Jackie in the US. Please.

by Anonymousreply 115September 8, 2023 2:28 AM

Chasten Buttgieg

by Anonymousreply 116September 8, 2023 2:40 AM

Julia Fox

by Anonymousreply 117September 8, 2023 7:30 AM

Funny how she was friends with Nureyev, who didn’t hide his sexuality, but didn’t want her son to become an actor because she thought that they were “fruits”.

by Anonymousreply 118September 8, 2023 1:08 PM

No one. The woman was incomparable and belonged to a particular time and set of circumstances.

It's unfortunate that she was smoker (Again, a woman of her time).

by Anonymousreply 119September 8, 2023 2:17 PM

If she played her cards right, it could have been Angelina Jolie.

by Anonymousreply 120September 8, 2023 3:22 PM

To R118, most actors are "fruits" and some are "predatorial fruits" and some actors are really straight!!

by Anonymousreply 121September 8, 2023 3:24 PM

[quote]Queen Letizia of Spain is the only one that even comes close.

Folks, please welcome Her Majesty, Queen Letizia of Spain to Datalounge!

by Anonymousreply 122September 8, 2023 3:42 PM

I'm happy to welcome Queen Lizzietish to the DL!

Have you seen those guns? She is not playing. And for a monarch on a budget (the Spanish royals don't have the money of the Windsors), Queen Lizzietish is serving regal realness.

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by Anonymousreply 123September 8, 2023 11:23 PM

She really should have found something to wear to that event besides the kitchen curtains, R123.

by Anonymousreply 124September 8, 2023 11:51 PM

She was taking her cues from Carol Burnett in the dress department but look at those guns! (that's why I chose this photo the guns and the crown)

Here are Scarlett and Rhett v Carol and Harvey.

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by Anonymousreply 125September 9, 2023 12:02 AM

Jackie was from a different era when women had goals like dressing in good taste but with style, and behaving in a manner that was considered ladylike and charming. A woman who was trying too hard to be sexy was thought of as slutty. Today 8 year olds and their moms don’t want to be tasteful or lovely, they want to be “sexy” and tacky.

by Anonymousreply 126September 9, 2023 7:31 AM

...and dress badly.

by Anonymousreply 127September 9, 2023 7:32 AM

HRH Katherine comes closest today. Previously, it was Diana.

by Anonymousreply 128September 9, 2023 9:22 AM

Brendad Ickson, of course. Jackie gave a televised tour of the White House. Brendad treated us to "Welcome to My Home!"

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by Anonymousreply 129September 9, 2023 9:49 AM

I think the *type* of woman Jackie was - I wouldn't say doesn't exist, but isn't in vogue anymore. Women are expected to be educated, have careers (of some kind), pretend to be interested in the environment, politics, social justice issues, etc. Rather than being demure and elusive, they spend all their time blabbering on instagram about their daft opinions. Even Jackie's daughter is a very type of woman than her mother, much more like her father.

As far as shaking up the role of FLOTUS, that's definitely Michelle. In terms of being the elusive, cool, beauty, that's Princess Catherine. Because of modern media, we see every flaw, wort & wrinkle so they don't seem as glamorous because we know more about them (or think we do)

by Anonymousreply 130September 9, 2023 11:53 AM

^wart - not wort!

by Anonymousreply 131September 9, 2023 11:54 AM

Billy Porter

by Anonymousreply 132September 11, 2023 5:09 AM
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